1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: It's hard if this is your first conspiracy. So where 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: are you at just in terms of conspiracies in general? Like, um, 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: what conspiracy do you work with? A J? A J 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Is my co host. She's basically saying, she's basically saying 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: that most you here is about conspiracies is from me. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: What she's saying, No, no, I know she hears about. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: I want to know which one do you believe in? Though? Right? 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Which one do you be like? Oh yeah, yeah, no, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: this one right here is real like the rest of 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: that ship. No, no, no, but I fox with which one? 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? You like? You know what? I 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: can see this? I can't really think of none of 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: that ship right now? All right, let me ask you this. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Do you think that nineteam motherfucker's with turbans and butter 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: knives hijacked four planes and crashed them into two buildings, 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: two buildings, causing three buildings to fall. It's possible. Come on, wait, wait, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: it's possible. It's possible. It's possible that it's not true, 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: but it's possible that it is. Did you hear how 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: he asked the question, Yeah, I did, right, So hold on, now, 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: do you know how they found out the identity of 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: those people. No, all right, so they found the passports. 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Through all the rubble, all the fire, all the debris everything, 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: they found those passports. Does that make any sense? No? 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: But I'm sure maybe there were other passports that were 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: found too. Right. So remember so here what he said, Uh, 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: two planes crashed in the two separate buildings, right, the 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: buildings that are made of steel and concrete and brick 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: and all of this indestructible material. All of that ship 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: burned up. And yet in the debris they found two 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: paper passports. A paper passport. You get what I'm saying. 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: That makes sense to you. I hear what you're saying. 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: But I'm sure that other ship did not burn. That 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: was paper on that plane. But how would But if 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: they found thirty passports, how would they pick just the 35 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: two to know that those were the two on the plane. 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Maybe there are some other intail that went into that 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: to narrow it down. Can I ask you a question? 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: As a matter fac I don't even got to ask 39 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: you a question. You buy your phone or your computer. Yes, 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: go on Google and type in um. Just go on 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Google and type and picture of birds flying into a 42 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: plane and look at what that plane looks like from 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: birds flying into it? And then you tell me if 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: those planes could take down buildings? All right? So, um, 45 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that we so we see planes 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: and they look like these big giant metal tubes, right, 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: but in real life planes I really really like especially 48 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: the nose. The nose of the plane is soft as ship. 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: To get what I'm saying, Like that made from aluminum. Um, 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: anybody like you drink coke cans, I mean you drink 51 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: cancer this ship? Right, you know how a pliable aluminium is. 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: Want you to think about, um, how soft that ship is. 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: And the architect of the buildings, um the Twin Towers, 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: said that he literally designed the buildings to withstand planes 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: crashing into it. And so what we saw on that day, right, 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: we saw two planes crash into two separate buildings. And 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: these buildings fail at free fall speed. I don't know. 58 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: So when I say free fall speed, I wanted to 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: think of it like this. Um, think about if you 60 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: drop something like you got your phone, whatever you drop it, 61 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: it drops with no resistance, right versus you going to 62 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: the ground yourself where you gotta collapse your legs and 63 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: then you kind of topple over a little bit. Those 64 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: buildings fell as if think was underneath them. You get 65 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They failed at free fall speed, the 66 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: speed at which something drops just out of that sky. Right, 67 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: that's physically impossible. Right, So there were things that happened 68 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: during that day that defied the laws of physics. Right. 69 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: And there have been many times when planes have hit buildings. 70 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: This is the first time in history that a building 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: fell because of plane hit it. Right. There has only 72 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: been two times in history that called that that a 73 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: building failed because the plane hit it, and both one 74 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: was nine eleven. See what I'm saying. So there's a 75 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: lot of statistical do you So, what do you feel 76 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: like happens into the right, So right now we're just 77 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: talking science. I don't when we got into the real ship. Right. 78 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: So what happened and what you can see and what 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: the witnesses say on that day, because there are lots 80 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: of people who were there who survived, people who are 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: actually in the buildings, right, and all of them to 82 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: a man say we heard explosion, right, um, and the 83 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: buildings start to pancake, right, So they were boom boom boom, 84 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: boom boom. Right, So the buildings were laced with explosives, right, 85 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: and so they exploded the cores of the buildings. I 86 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: don't even so. One of the most iconic photos that 87 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you see in the Twin Towers is of like one 88 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: of these still beams and then one of the beams 89 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: is cut like this. You know what I'm saying. It's 90 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: like a little slat cut on it. So that's how 91 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: demolition crews wired buildings with thurmite. They wrapped these thrmite 92 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: wires around and steal columns because when it explodes, the 93 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: they went the beam to slide off if they if 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: it's like this and then it explodes, it's not going nowhere. 95 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: So they wire it on a slant so that us 96 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: it burns through the still being it slides off. And 97 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: so that's why when you go back and look at 98 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: some of the pictures of the beginning of the beings 99 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: sticking up, you're seeing with this little slant. It is 100 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: because that's how they were white with thurmite. So they 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: put bombs in the building. Third light around the cores 102 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: exploded them. Use what you saw as a plane, because 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: we ain't even got to the fact that there were 104 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: no planes or not a letter again. That's next level ship. 105 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: That's next level ship. Right us again, hold on, you 106 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: give your speedball it again? Use again. Now I know 107 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: some damn planes. It's real people died on on planes. 108 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: Real people. You wait, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, 109 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too fast. Hold on. So 110 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: what happened was, um, it was explosions in the building. 111 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: Um that they used what you saw as a plane 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: going into it. Um, explosion goes off and then the 113 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: buildings collapse apps due to the thermite on the core, 114 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: like on the still beams. Right. So that's what happened, right. 115 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: What we were given after that was the propaganda around 116 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the event. Right. Every video that we have of the 117 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: event shows the planes because it all comes from the 118 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: same people that put it on. Right. Um, there are 119 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: a few independent videos that got out right, um, and 120 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you can see an explosion happened, but ain't no fucking plane. 121 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, where the fund is the plane? Right, 122 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: because this wasn't one of their videos. All the videos 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: that we have on nine eleven came from the people 124 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: that orchestrated the ship. Right. All the way, it looks 125 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: like it's just a random camera on the street that 126 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: somehow magically caught the fucking um plane that was there. Right, 127 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: All those people, that's that. All the interviews of people 128 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: that you saw on the street who say, oh I 129 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: saw the plane that was them, those are all people 130 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: in on the ship. You know what I'm saying. Oh oh, 131 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: it gets deep in this mother. I'm trying to tell you, right, 132 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: um so um. The reality is that there there's lots 133 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of video that exists where you don't see fucking planes. 134 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: All you see is an explosion and then later on 135 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: you see the buildings fall, so you you feel like 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: none of the people that were said to have died 137 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: in the plane crash are real people. All right? Before 138 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: you answer that one, now, you gotta get to why 139 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: it happens so that she can understand why. Uh you 140 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: you're saying that there are no people and no planes. 141 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: You gotta get to why it happened. That's the important part. 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: And hold on before you respond, um chop, I'm actually 143 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: the one meeting you because you got y'all can hear 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: that in the background when I when I meet him, 145 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: is silent, but it's like you can hear like an air. 146 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: So you know, whenever you want to talk on mute, 147 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: so then we could just have like the little piece 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: of the background noise. Other than that, you sound clear, 149 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: but we can hear like a little buzz in the back. Yes, 150 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's better. Yes, okay, we got the closing 151 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the door, all right. So so what I was saying was, um, 152 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: you gotta get to why it happened, Like you'll have 153 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: to look up who Donald Ramsfeld is and how I 154 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: think it was twenty eight trillion dollars that was on 155 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: accounting for um and the United States government came out 156 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: the day before on September ten, came out the day 157 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: before and was talking about all the money that they 158 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: couldn't account for. And what Lennelle is saying to you, 159 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: like two planes took down three buildings. He didn't explain 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: what the third building was. So everybody knows about the 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: twin towers going down, but a lot of people don't 162 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: know that Building seven was the financial building that had 163 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the financial records. So you got the government coming out saying, hey, 164 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight trillion dollars is missing, uh, the and people 165 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: wanting answers for it the next day. This tragic event 166 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: happens to where it occupies the minds of everybody. The 167 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: financial building goes down to where even if you know 168 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: you did want to come out as people and say, yo, 169 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: we demand to know what happened to twenty eight trillion dollars. Well, 170 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: we don't know what happened to it because the building 171 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that the information was stored in is no longer there. 172 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Then you gotta get to the war, the weapons of 173 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: mass destruction that were never found. You gotta get to 174 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: the to the um opioid crisis that the world is 175 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: currently going through. You gotta get to the poppy fields 176 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: that are n Iraq. You gotta get to the museums 177 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and the artifacts that were stolen. You gotta get to 178 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: you know, UM cern and the lhc over in Switzerland, 179 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: like it's so much ship that transpired, as you know, 180 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: UM nine eleven exactly. Then you would have to get 181 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: to the Patriot Act and how they're able to spy 182 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: on you, Like it's so much ship that a lot 183 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: of these conspiracies, the way they work is not it's 184 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: not simple. It's not like hey, I can say hey, 185 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: nine level and it's cut and dry. You have to 186 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: talk about one conspiracy that's like a ten step thing 187 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: to get to the next part of the conspiracy. That's 188 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: another ten steps. And some people they just want everything 189 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: microwave and they want it, you know, uh, quickly given 190 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: to them so they can easily digest it. That Unfortunately, 191 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: it's just not how it works. So unfortunately, with this 192 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: nine eleven thing, like you got to talk about so 193 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: many different things and so many different steps that happened 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: and that you know are happening now as a result 195 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: of that, that is kind of hard to just give 196 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: you everything in you know, two minutes, you get what 197 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So before we even get to the planes 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: and c G I and no people, we got to 199 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: talk about all of those little things. Well it sounds 200 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: like big things that don't sound like little things, And 201 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: there's some big things you're saying, which you know, I 202 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's possible. All these things you're saying are 203 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: are very possible. And now you know, I don't believe 204 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: that our our government is just like you know, righteous 205 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: and everything that they tell us. You know, obviously otherwise 206 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: we wouldn't even be here. Let me ask you this, 207 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: um so, and I want to go to something more 208 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse, right, UM, do you believe that, um 209 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: the hip Our industry is controlled by corporations. Yes, okay, Yo, 210 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: that's a great place to start because now we're talking 211 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: about yo. All right, so how now how did that? 212 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Why do they control? What's the purpose of the control? 213 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: When hip hop? They want us dead? That's what I'm 214 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: starting to believe right now. They want black people to 215 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: be annihilated because why are they Why are they letting 216 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: us put out this dark as music. It's okay for 217 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: us to just make this violent music towards each other 218 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and music that degrades black women. And they're like, yeah, 219 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: that's good, that's good stuff. Let's promote that to these 220 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: black people, to all people. So I agree there, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 221 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: go with that right um. And so that's a good 222 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: place to start. So the reason I ask you about 223 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: nine eleven like I would ask you about jfk Um 224 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and I think for you because it's something that I 225 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: think because you're in the industry, right, this kind of 226 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: hits closer, right, Um, how old are you? We're having 227 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: a good time? So no, all right, okay, I got you, 228 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: I got you. I'm trying to figure out are you 229 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: old enough to where you can recognize the transition um 230 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: from music, the musical content, the musical sound, from where 231 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: it was when it was kind of when it was authentic, 232 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: when even though we didn't control the business side, we 233 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: controlled the art that came out right where the industry 234 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: there was a lot of balance in the music right 235 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: where it wasn't all bullshit. It wasn't no bullshit, right. 236 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of mother fuckers like to romantic size 237 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: um or the old days, like it wasn't no bullshit, No, no, no, 238 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't the fact that it wasn't no bullshit. It's 239 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: just that it was balanced, right. And so just as 240 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: much good ship you had bad ship, you had ship 241 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: in the middle, like it was a ride variety of 242 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: fucking music, right, And so slowly there's been this transition 243 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: from balanced music coming from the culture to music that's 244 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: out that doesn't represent who we are, you know, Like, 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: are you old enough to see that? I feel like 246 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: the the music still is like that, there's good ship 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: and there's bad ship, but the good ship don't get 248 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: promoted like the bad ship. There's a lot of people 249 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: making good quality, positive music, but we just don't get 250 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: to hear. That's what I'm talking when I say I'm 251 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: talking about the ship now. I wanted to add that 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: even though these people are monopolizing and making money off 253 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: of the music that we are producing, let us not 254 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: forget that we are producing the music. So what if 255 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: we stopped producing the music, but they'd be able to 256 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: take advantage and make money off of it, they wouldn't 257 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: be able to. So it also comes with the community 258 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: as a collective being complicit on the bad murder music making. 259 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's be clear, That's what I'm gonna say. Um yeah, 260 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: so I agree that we're definitely making the music. However, 261 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and every fucking community, it's always sellouts, and there's always 262 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: people willing to do anything right. And what we're seeing 263 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: are those people, right, Um, the people who because a 264 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: lot of them. So there are some who recognize that 265 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: what they're doing is bullshit and that it's part of 266 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the agenda, and they're like, yeah, I'm here for it 267 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: as long as I get paid. I'm looking at me. 268 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: There are lots of people like that, right. Then there 269 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: are some people who they see, all right, well I 270 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: just want to be famous, I just want to be rich, 271 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: so I'll just do whatever it takes to get rich, 272 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: right And so, um, the people that are doing this 273 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: capitalize off those two groups of people, right, And so 274 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: what I wanna and so I want to take this right, 275 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: take that thought process where you have this this group 276 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: of people who promote because like you said, Tam, right there, 277 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: good music is made. However it's not promoted. We don't 278 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: have access to it. It's not on the radio, it's 279 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: not on the TV. Those artists aren't given the platform 280 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: to put out music that has quality content, quality sound. Right, 281 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't take you into it into your lower chakras. Right, 282 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: that that's not being given to us because the avenues 283 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: about which music gets to us or about which any 284 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: media gets to us is contrained. I'm saying, we're getting 285 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: to the point where the Internet, this wide open that's 286 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: fucking Internet, is getting controlled. Right. They've been trying to 287 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: put forth bills to control the Internet where they can 288 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: either um speed up or slow down the speeds of 289 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: what you connect, right, depending on which website you go 290 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to and what service you got. Like they're trying they're 291 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: literally trying to control what you can cert like, what 292 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: you can see on the internot or um what you 293 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: have access to. And let me give an example of 294 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: that like say first like like TikTok right now, my 295 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: zip cold to nine zero seven, My TikTok may look 296 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: this way, your zip colde, your TikTok is gonna look 297 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: another way. Like they literally, uh, they basically market program exactly. 298 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: It's programming. So China, their TikTok is totally different. They don't, right, 299 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: That's what I saw that. I saw that they promote 300 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like education, happy things, good things, right, beautiful thing aith 301 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: on the music, on the music part of things. How 302 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: an easy way for you to see how music, how 303 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: music is controlled. Are you a little baby fan? Tammy? 304 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: All right? So you know that throughout little babies existence, 305 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: he only made one song uh that uh that brought 306 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: together generations and that spoke about topics that are taboo 307 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: in his lane a rap like he's not drill rap, 308 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: but he's not um uh what's the word rap? He's 309 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: not conscious rap, but he's not also not drill rap. 310 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: He's in his own little little lane. It's so when 311 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: he made the song The Bigger Picture. You remember that song, 312 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: it's bigger than black. You want to know why he 313 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: never made another song like the Bigger Picture because the 314 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: label came to him and said we're not doing this. 315 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: They it was a single, they delisted it from being 316 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: a single, which I've never heard happening. You still find 317 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: it on streaming services, but it came out as a 318 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: single and they refused to let that be the single 319 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: for the album that was coming out. So things as 320 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: little as that where you got a rapper that you know, um, 321 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I was born at eighty nine, So you got a 322 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: rapper that's influential on my age group, the age group 323 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: before me, and definitely the age group under me, and 324 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: as well as the age group under them. Like he 325 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: transcedes generations because he's like this, he's that generation's uh, 326 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I guess you could call him that generation is jay 327 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Z not comparing it too, but as far as influence 328 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: and as far as rapping ability, he's that generation jay Z. 329 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: The fact that he made a song like that and 330 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: the label said no, we're not doing this, but that 331 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: song was so big that alone tells you that that 332 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: that's going against the agenda that they want to push. 333 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: That makes sense, right, So now all you here is 334 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: you know all this bang bang shoot them up shit 335 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: if they the ops go do that? You hear the 336 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: City Girls ship like you hear a bunch of ship 337 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: that's destructive to the younger and quessionable generation. You get 338 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, you've got people like 339 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Kanye that to come out and he'll tell you, like yo, 340 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: the reason music is the way it is is because 341 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: of the eight O weights and what they did to it. 342 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: They pretty much demonized it to where controls your lower chakra. 343 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: And you get what I'm saying. He was just talking 344 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: about energy in the first Drink Champs interview. Kanye dropped 345 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: a lot of gems in that first Drink Champs interview 346 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: as far as what's going on with the industry, and 347 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people overlooked it because of the slick 348 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: ship that he was saying. But if you go re 349 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: listen to that, you'll see, like yo, everything he was 350 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: talking about music is exactly what's playing out now. And 351 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: you know people are still oblivious to that. So and 352 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: you know there, oh sorry, So I feel like, um, 353 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe two years ago, I swear to god, 354 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I read an article that was saying that Avid Avid 355 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: that makes pro tools that was created by the government, 356 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and I can't find that article nowhere. So they take 357 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: up exactly so y'all took away the acoustic instruments. A 358 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: y'all let it literally put the devil into this fucking program. 359 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: And this is what nigga now pro tools. Yeah. So, um, 360 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: have y'all heard about when I know you're seeing articles 361 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: and they talked about the meetings that were had in 362 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: hip hop sex um, like the people who control like 363 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: the prisons and the liquor companies and clothing companies met 364 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: with like the music exex you know. Actually talked to 365 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: somebody who was in one of those meetings and he 366 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: told me, he told me exactly what then they were 367 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: talking about, and it was a weed out session, he 368 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: said pretty much. They came in right, they invited all 369 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: these influence people do uh into the music because it 370 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: wasn't just one meeting. There was like a series of 371 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: meetings that they were holding around the country, right to 372 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: get all the influence influence with people in right, and 373 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: so they were weeding people out. So they said, Yo, 374 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do, and anybody who objected 375 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: was never invited back to another meeting and they were 376 00:20:53,680 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: subsequently ushered out the music industry. Right. So um, now 377 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: I want to take that all, right, Tammy. I'm sorry, Tamba. 378 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: All right, so I want to so I want you 379 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: to take that process, right, that that thought process. What 380 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: we understand, we can agree that Um, at some point 381 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: in time, some people came together for the purpose of 382 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: controlling the music industry to for an agenda, right, Um, 383 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: And what we see it looks like the agenda to 384 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: destroy what we would consider a healthy black community, right 385 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: because we see it directed at us. Right. We don't 386 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: see this um directed at right exactly. So they want 387 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: to destabilize um so that they can control us as 388 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: a people. Okay, So, UM, that same thing happens in 389 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: other industries. Right, It's not just in music, right, it's 390 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: a that they copy and paste the same format, the 391 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: same strategies in different sectors. Right. They control every sect 392 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: of human activity. Right. So this even goes to science. Right, 393 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: this even goes to your doctor. Right. So we haven't 394 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: so when you start looking at why medicine is the 395 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: way it is, why they don't cure anything anymore. They 396 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: used to cure stuff, right. They used to They used 397 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: to go to the doctor and they'll be like, now 398 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: you take this, take this, you're cured. Right. They used 399 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: to use natural stuff. To cure you. The medicine they 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: gave you didn't make you sicker or didn't have all 401 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: these different side effects. Right. That's gone right because that 402 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: industry was controlled. It was taken over by what we 403 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: now call we have allopathic medicine. Right there used to 404 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: be homeopathic, natural pathic, you know what I'm saying, medicine. 405 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: They used to have these doctors right who used herbs 406 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: and tonics and things of that nature that was natural. 407 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: They got ran out the business, they got qualified, meaning 408 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: they the media was used to label these people as quacks. 409 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Politicians then came in putting on laws to make you say, 410 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: all right, in order to practice medicine or to cure people, 411 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: you have to be part of this system. Right. So 412 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: they systemize everything. Right. You've got the music industry, right, 413 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: that's a system, the medical industry, that's a system. Right. 414 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: So everything has a system to it, including science, okay, 415 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: and the things that you see right that are science, right, um, 416 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: do not are not really science for the most part. 417 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: And so what they'll do is they'll take something that's 418 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: actual science and then mix it with some pseudo science. 419 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Pseudo science all right. So there's there's two different things. 420 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Is that the two different methods of science. You have 421 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: science which can pours to the scientific method. At the 422 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: crux of the scientific method is things that you can 423 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: um that observable, testable, and repeatable, right, meaning that we 424 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: can do an experiment, right, we come up with an outcome, 425 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: and then I can tell you what I did, and 426 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: then you can go without me, get your own materials, 427 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: redo the same experiment, and get the same thing I got. Right. 428 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: That's a scientific method, right, that's perfect. I love that ship. Right. 429 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: Pseudo science is when you already have the outcome you 430 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: want and then you construct a narrative, right, or an 431 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: experiment or thought process to get you to the to 432 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: the the end already. And so what people call science, 433 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: um is really pseudo science. Right. A lot of the 434 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: things that we see and we think are science scientific 435 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: are really masquerading as science, but they're really pseudo science. 436 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: One of the things, and I guess to the topic 437 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about here are the pictures of 438 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: the earth that you see, right, None of those are 439 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: actual photographs throughout images, right, And I can give you 440 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: an image of anything. I have an image of two 441 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: crabs playing poker. Right, does that make it does that 442 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: mean that it really happened. No, it could have happened. 443 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I did get crab with a knife like trying did 444 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: die too, I don't care. Yeah, yeah, he's trying to 445 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: fight back, so they might know how to play space. 446 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know.