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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Buck

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Speaker 2: with you? Buck? What is going on?

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Speaker 3: Man another man? DJ?

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Speaker 4: Just is funny, right because we're in the weird time

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Speaker 4: Camps are done, we're waiting for training camp. You talk

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Speaker 3: But you can't really look at the magazines DJ, because

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You can't even get to the predictive stuff because we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very true, but I am.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my sons are so fired up because I

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Speaker 1: This is how weird it is, this is the air

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Speaker 2: Like, I actually watched him play, like, oh okayeah man,

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Speaker 2: Penn State's got a little tight end there. He's kind

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Speaker 1: Okay, kind of going through all that. But yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: I want to start us off there right now. It's

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Speaker 2: Okay, I made it this long.

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Speaker 1: I try and take a nice long break from the

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Speaker 1: But my first foray back into it as we start

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the two lists that come out, you got

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Speaker 1: All right, buck, this time of year, we talk about

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Speaker 4: I've only maybe really three weeks into fully immersing myself

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's interesting. So I don't know. I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: See you have a chance read that article if you're

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Speaker 4: excited about. We're excited about some of these things because

437
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Speaker 4: as scals and evaluators man, we just love a flurry

438
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Speaker 4: of activity. And so when we talk about the off

439
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Speaker 4: season winners is the teams that we look at their

440
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Speaker 4: moves and how they project out to make them better.

441
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Speaker 4: And also on the topic, we only talk about three teams.

442
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Speaker 4: We talk about Chicago, we talk about Baltimore, then I'm

443
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Speaker 4: gonna throw in the New England Patriots. But Chicago to

444
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Speaker 4: me is a hype machine because from everything that we

445
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Speaker 4: talked about. I hate that we always quantify things of late,

446
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 4: particularly under the three piece, but it really fits when

447
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: it comes to the Bears young quarterback number one overall

448
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 4: pick KAYLEB Williams. We talked about the three things that

449
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Speaker 4: are essential to a quarterback, young quarterback and particularly playing

450
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Speaker 4: play caller, protectors the playmakers. So Chicago checks off the

451
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Speaker 4: boxes in each of those areas. First they go get

452
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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson from a division rival. We saw the kind

453
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Speaker 4: of offenses that they were able to create in Detroit.

454
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Speaker 4: We saw how the Lions were able to level up

455
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Speaker 4: Jerry Golf and you're hoping that he's able to do

456
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Speaker 4: the same when he has an opportunity to work with

457
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Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams. Then the Protectors they make a couple of

458
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Speaker 4: trays to get big time people, veteran players Joe Touneying

459
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Speaker 4: and those guys right in front of Kayleb Williams. So

460
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Speaker 4: you're like, man, okay, it's all coming together. Playmakers, they

461
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Speaker 4: wait to the draft Coaston Lovelin, they didn't get Luther

462
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Speaker 4: Burton the third and you're like, this team quickly had

463
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Speaker 4: become different. And we were excited about the Bears last

464
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Speaker 4: year when they signed the Vets, right when they had

465
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Speaker 4: Keenan Allen and those guys in Rome of Dunza and whatever.

466
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Speaker 4: But now you talk about what I like the young

467
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Speaker 4: weapons they have on the perimeter, DJ have more anchors

468
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Speaker 4: that but like in the last two years, they've added

469
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Speaker 4: significant firepower. I like what they've done to the offensive line,

470
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Speaker 4: and how can you not like the physical and fun

471
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Speaker 4: offense that Ben Johnson plays. That's why they're in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also feel like for them, man, they get

473
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Speaker 1: off to a hot start. Man, that's gonna be a

474
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a snowball rolling downhill because the belief

475
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Speaker 1: is gonna come in there. The talent's there. There's no

476
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Speaker 1: I mean, we can say people can argue whether or

477
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Speaker 1: not it's gonna work. Nobody can argue about the talent. Like,

478
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Speaker 1: they have talent in that building. Now to me, you

479
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Speaker 1: get some confidence to go along with that talent. They

480
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Speaker 1: get off to a good start. Now you start to

481
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Speaker 1: see this thing building we've seen with Ben Johnson, like

482
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Speaker 1: he's got infinite ideas of how to deploy all this talent.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

484
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Speaker 3: And so when you talk about talent, the next team

485
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Speaker 3: is the Baltimore Ravens.

486
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Speaker 4: And the Ravens had been in that conversation, but then

487
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Speaker 4: when they moved it, they made the last move Yarry

488
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Speaker 4: Alexander to bring him into secondary. That look, Marlon Humphrey,

489
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Speaker 4: Cayle Hamilton, both guys that have been Pro Bowlers.

490
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Speaker 3: You talk about Malacho.

491
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Speaker 4: Starks being in the midst Nate Wiggins and then you

492
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Speaker 4: have to bring him. Man, that quintet might be the

493
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Speaker 4: best in football when in terms of the talent level,

494
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Speaker 4: how they play, how the pieces of the postle fit.

495
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Speaker 4: So you love all that offensively New Hopkins on the outside,

496
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Speaker 4: even though he's not what he once was. They needed

497
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Speaker 4: that veteran presence on the perimeter to enhance what they

498
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Speaker 4: already get from Zay Flowers with Sean Babmen and Isaiah

499
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Speaker 4: Likely offensive line, Lamar Jackson coming back MVP, I mean

500
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Speaker 4: two time MVP could have won last year. Looking to

501
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Speaker 4: go back, I mean everything is there for the Baltimore

502
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Speaker 4: Ravens to make that run now is I would say

503
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Speaker 4: now in ever time, no excuses. They have everything that

504
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Speaker 4: you possibly want from a talent perspective, because they've really

505
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Speaker 4: been diligent about how they attacked the off season.

506
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Speaker 1: So if I told you there was one team we

507
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Speaker 1: got seventeen game schedule, If I told you that a

508
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Speaker 1: team could go sixteen and one, that's just hard to

509
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Speaker 1: do with seventeen games. But to me, like the Ravens

510
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Speaker 1: have the most dominant upside of any team, like even

511
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Speaker 1: like with Philly whoever, I just think the Ravens are

512
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Speaker 1: a team that if they come out and they're ready

513
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Speaker 1: to go, and they hit the ground going and you

514
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Speaker 1: look at the pieces that they have, the pieces that

515
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Speaker 1: they've added, the continuity that they have now to me,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at them going like that they could be

517
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Speaker 1: fifteen to sixteen win team, like they have the upside

518
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Speaker 1: to do that sort of thing.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they absolutely do have the upside to be able

520
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Speaker 3: to do that.

521
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Speaker 4: And the thing about them that you like the experiences

522
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Speaker 4: there where they should be ready to take the next step.

523
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Speaker 4: There's no doubt that they're talented enough to do it.

524
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Speaker 4: Dack Primrick somehow remains in his prime. You got Lamar

525
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: Jackson who's in his prime. You have weapons with lore

526
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Speaker 4: on the outside, a defense that really is coming to

527
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Speaker 4: his own, I would say, Zach Or now that you've

528
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Speaker 4: had Chuck Grano and some other people on this coaching

529
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Speaker 4: staff to help him. Look, they don't have a noticeable

530
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Speaker 4: glaring weakness. This is a team that should be ready

531
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Speaker 4: to go. And you know, the offseason has been good

532
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Speaker 4: to them and that's why they have to be on

533
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Speaker 4: this list.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt or give me one more New.

535
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Speaker 4: England Patriots and the reason why DJ we talked about

536
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 4: the cover being barren for the Patriots this season ago

537
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: we have Drake Man. You didn't really have much of

538
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: anything else offensively, a defensive Defensively, Now this team has

539
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: done a complete makeover where the talent from top to bottom,

540
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: from coaching is after player is now top notch. Not

541
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Speaker 4: saying that they are Super Bowl ready. Mike Rabel comes

542
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: in and gives him instant credibility. We saw the job

543
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Speaker 4: that he did at Tennessee. You bring him back when

544
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Speaker 4: he's a legend in New England. You surround him with

545
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Speaker 4: a bunch of veteran defensive players that can bring the

546
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Speaker 4: toughness that is a trademark.

547
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Speaker 3: Of his program. And then on offense with Drake May Look,

548
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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, tray Brion Henderson. Right there, they are two

549
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Speaker 3: hundred percent better offensively.

550
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Speaker 4: Anywhere season to go because they have a number One

551
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: receiver and they have a big play producer in the backfield.

552
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Speaker 3: I just love what they've done. And look, I'm with

553
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Speaker 3: him the kind of bank on them.

554
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Speaker 4: Getting in the conversation and being not a side of contentent,

555
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Speaker 4: but I think they can be in that conversation where

556
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Speaker 4: they're on the graphic the last few weeks of the

557
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: season in terms of one of those teams that could

558
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Speaker 4: get into the postseason.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've said it before on here, but to me,

560
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Speaker 1: my favorite storylineup the upcoming season.

561
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Speaker 2: Is the sophomore quarterbacks.

562
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Speaker 1: And you've just you just hit on a couple of

563
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Speaker 1: them there when you think about, you know, Caleb Williams,

564
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Speaker 1: Drake May, the opportunity those guys have to take a

565
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Speaker 1: step forward. Jaden Daniels already kind of done it. You know,

566
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Speaker 1: can he build off what he did last year? We're

567
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Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to see JJ McCarthy excited about

568
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Speaker 1: that bo Nicks you know, exploded last year after he

569
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Speaker 1: got his feet wet, you got panics. It's his job, unquestionably.

570
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: Now what's he going to be able to do with it?

571
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Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be a lot of fun. Like

572
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Speaker 1: if you're asking me the training camps you want to

573
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Speaker 1: hit man, it'd be hard to say, like this, go

574
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Speaker 1: see all those those six teams, from those quarterback teams

575
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Speaker 1: to see what they look like.

576
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Speaker 3: I mean, you always want to check in.

577
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Speaker 4: I was having a conversation with someone yesterday and we

578
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: was get revolved around Kayler, Williams, Jayden and Daniels.

579
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Speaker 3: Who do you expect to have the better career?

580
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Speaker 4: Even though Jayden Daniels has jumped out can Kayleer Williams clothes,

581
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Speaker 4: And I was like, man, you just never know, because

582
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: a lot of it depends on if you're surrounded by

583
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: the right things and you have an opportunity to have

584
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: the continuity to build consistency. Those are the quarterbacks that

585
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: have a lot of success. You talk about the other

586
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: young guys. Michael Penn has taken over in Atlanta full

587
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 4: time after an offseason. Bow Nick's going to the next

588
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: level with a better team around him. There are a

589
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: lot of fascinating young quarterback stories they want to keep

590
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 4: an eye on.

591
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: And JJ McCarthy might be the.

592
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Speaker 4: Biggest one because he gets to drive the Ferrari in Minneapolis.

593
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 4: Because that offense is loaded. He's just gonna drop him

594
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Speaker 4: in the cockpit and see if he can handle it.

595
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Speaker 4: Those are good problems to have.

596
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Speaker 1: No question, all right. We sent it out on social

597
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: media yesterday, some questions. We haven't done this in a

598
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: long time, so I thought we'd just ripped through them.

599
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: We'll go rapid fire. Here, are you ready to roll?

600
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: Should the Bears consider playing Luthor Burden as a hybrid

601
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: running back to open up the playbook? Aside from the

602
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: obvious trade options and obvious free agents. Who should the

603
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Bears consider acquiring. Let's just focus on the first part there,

604
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Luther Burden. Can we find a hybrid role for him?

605
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Speaker 4: I mean the hybrid role for him is I'm gonna

606
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: give him the ball in a bunch of different ways

607
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: and let him get loose on the perimeter. I just think,

608
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: without doing the Deebo saying a thing, you can get

609
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: a lot of juice out of Luther bird, screen, game,

610
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: cross and rouse, option, rouse, all the things that he

611
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: did in Missouri.

612
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to do that because he's.

613
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Speaker 4: Surrounded by weapons where he's going to get one on

614
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 4: one matchups. We don't have to create anything, just getting

615
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: the ball to let it happen organically.

616
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me in a slot, flipping the ball, bubbles, reverses.

617
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Speaker 1: I mean, he already knows how to Ben Johnson's how

618
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: to do all that stuff.

619
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

620
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Speaker 1: There seems to be a massive influx of tackle to

621
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Speaker 1: guard conversions coming out of college last few years. Most

622
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: top ots leading up the draft get labeled as tackle

623
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Speaker 1: or guard.

624
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: Why is that?

625
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 4: We're part of it? Is how the position has changed.

626
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: There was a time where we wouldn't see six or

627
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: five or taller guards.

628
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: Well that's changed.

629
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Speaker 4: Well, now we're putting trying to put the best five

630
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: that we can put on the field. And even though

631
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: someone may not have the agility or the light feet

632
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: to play on the perimeter, there's a spot for them

633
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: if they can play, as I say, around the neighbors.

634
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: Right when you're.

635
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: Playing guard, you got the center, you got the tackle,

636
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: you got a smaller surface area that you're responsible for.

637
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: So if you can just anchor quickly and just.

638
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: Understand how to use neighbors for help, you got a

639
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: chance to succeed. I think it's a combination of what

640
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: college is bearing in terms of the athleticism, but it's

641
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: more so I think people thinking outside the box. How

642
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: can I put the best five blockers on the field,

643
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: regardless of what position they may have.

644
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 3: Played in college.

645
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Speaker 1: Now there's a thought in baseball that you'd love have

646
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: a team of all shortstops, because if you can play shortstop,

647
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: usually you can play anywhere on the diamond. And to me,

648
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: it's an offensive line. It's a secondary. You've always talked

649
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: about having four corners in the secondary, and the offensive

650
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: line is having a bunch of tackles because normally those

651
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: guys know how to pass protect.

652
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: It's a passing league. We start there.

653
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Speaker 1: In college, you're not going to be up against a

654
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: lot of NFL rushers, the balls coming out quick. You

655
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: can be a very good, successful, productive offensive tackle in college,

656
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: and those warts that you might hide in college can

657
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: get exposed in the NFL. Another reason why I see

658
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: some of these guys kick inside. So great question there.

659
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Let's see how about this one?

660
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Now?

661
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Hear all the time you build a team to win

662
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: your division, what team stylistically is best suited to dominate

663
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: their division this season based off of the strength and

664
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: weakness of the roster as well as coaching experience. So

665
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: who's if you look at a division, I'll take this

666
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: one because to me, I just think Buffalo built their

667
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: team perfectly for their division and.

668
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: They've taken over.

669
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: This is a division that was dominated by New England

670
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady Bill Belichick era, and then Josh Allen's

671
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: just taking owners of it. Josh Allen is a quarterback

672
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: who matches that division. He's big, he's rugged, he's physical,

673
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: as it gets windy, as you get weather, he is

674
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: built for it. They've built a kind of just a tough,

675
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: physical football team. To me, I think they built their

676
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: team to win that division.

677
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say to tam Bay Buccaneers, and I'm gonna

678
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: say the Buccaneers in a surprise because DJ what they

679
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: did is they doubled down on the perimeter, weapons around

680
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield.

681
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is coming.

682
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Off a career, your best that he's had and it's

683
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: signed forty one touchdowns only like fifteen or whatever. Interceptions.

684
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: But Mike Evans, Chris Godwin a Mecca a book. You

685
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: talk about big, physical wide receivers and playmakers. You got

686
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: Bucky Irvin in the backfield, you got others defensively, they

687
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: go and get Hassan Reddick and then they commit it

688
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: their draft to more young pieces there. To me, this

689
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: is a team that has won a division, if I'm

690
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: not mistaken, maybe four years in a row. Look, man,

691
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: I think you can already hang the fifth banner up.

692
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: This is a team that's well positioned to continue and

693
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: extend their dominance in the NFC South.

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I like that one.

695
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Another question here, what are some common unwritten rules in

696
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the scouting world. As a scout greetings from a Swedish listener. Well,

697
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: thanks for listening to us over there in Sweden. We

698
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I'll give you my pet Peeve. It's an

699
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: unwritten role in scouting. You'll remember this from the days

700
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: in the room. If you haven't watched and written a player,

701
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: you don't get to talk about him in the meeting room.

702
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: That will get you the iron and the glare of

703
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: everyone in the room when we're talking about what this

704
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: player is and somebody chimes in and goes, well I

705
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: don't think you can do this, that and the other way.

706
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Well hold on, I didn't. I'm looking through here.

707
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: You haven't written one thing about him, and you haven't

708
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: gone on the record, so you haven't either watched him

709
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: or writ him or written him.

710
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: But no, no, I just saw a little bit of him. No, no,

711
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: you don't get to chime in.

712
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: We all did all the work. So we're having a conversation.

713
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: You're more than welcome to join, but you're going to

714
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: need to watch at least three games and put a

715
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: report in the system so you're on the record.

716
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you got to put your name on. You

717
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: got to put your name on, You got to sign

718
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: your name on.

719
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: We need to see what it is before you weigh in,

720
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: and you can't be the ad that is twenty twenty scouting.

721
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: You can't be scouting in hindsight like oh, I mean.

722
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: I already knew it was good. Yeah, but we don't

723
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: have anything in the system now. This is that you

724
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: believed in them. That is one for me in terms

725
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: of like doing that. The other pet peeve I would

726
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 4: say is, hey, eliminate the radical changes from the combine

727
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: to the draft. Whatever you believed about the player prior

728
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: to the combine. More likely than not, that is what

729
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: the truth is, because that is more based off of

730
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: what you saw when you had a chance to really

731
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: look at and play. We can make tweaks, but we

732
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: don't make wholesale radical changes where someone goes from the

733
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: fourth round to the first round based on what we

734
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: see doing that little workout season.

735
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: From February to April. No switching to grades, keep the

736
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: grades to say.

737
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Yep, good stuff.

738
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: For that.

739
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Last one I would say is on a school visit,

740
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: if you' you'll see this. Young scouts, they get kind

741
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: of pulled aside and told on this one. When you're

742
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: meeting with the strength coach and we're going over the

743
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: players and we get to a kid who's you know,

744
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: five foot tents center, who's and you just asked your

745
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: fourth question about him in there, like, hey, Bud, the

746
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: next let's go, we're moving, We're moving, all right, there

747
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: you go, good question. Can you discuss the reasons why

748
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Tyrie Wilson, who you speaking to me and many other

749
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: analysts really liked as a prospect, hasn't panned out so far?

750
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

751
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: No, it has not worked there. And to me, you

752
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: saw the physical dimensions there. He had, the size, he

753
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: had the length. He was a flash player at Texas Tech.

754
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: I you know, to me, I was dreaming on the

755
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: upside there, as I'm sure the Raiders were as well.

756
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Did not have him over will Anderson. I thought will

757
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Anderson was, you know, was a better choice there because

758
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: that was the debate if you remember at that time. Now,

759
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Tyrey Wilson has not been anywhere close to as good

760
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: as where he was picked. Instincts Buck, at the end

761
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: of the day, he just he's a little stiff and

762
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: the instinct component is not there.

763
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: DJ. That's everything.

764
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: And I think most of the time when we talk

765
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: about someone not panning out, it has something to do

766
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: with the character.

767
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Whether off field character or really football character.

768
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: And so we talk about football character, were talking about

769
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: work ethic, we're talking about instincts, awareness, All this stuff

770
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: kind of falls into it. And lug Man, it's a

771
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: fascinating tale where we can love the potential of the player.

772
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: But man, you gotta love Balldon. You've got to have

773
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: in a satiable desire to be great. I'm not saying

774
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: that he hasn't done it, but there's something that is

775
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: missing that's preventing him from unlocking the tools that add

776
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: his disposal.

777
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's hey for him hopefully turns it around.

778
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: We've seen it in the past where guys have had

779
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: the like come on a little bit later. Two more

780
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: here about how long until we see Jackson Dark if

781
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: the team is successful regardless of Russ's performance or do

782
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: you feel Russ's performance will be the key factor in

783
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: when we see Jackson Dark.

784
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: I think Russell's performance is a big factor in terms

785
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 4: of when Jackson Dark gets under the field understanding where

786
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 4: Brian Dave Bald and Joe Shane are luk Man. They

787
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: want to win, and so if Russell Wilson has it

788
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: going and they're able to win, they're gonna stick with him.

789
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: But if we reach that midway point and it doesn't

790
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: look great, and we'll be in that kind of half

791
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: to figure out not to justify our jobs, but hey,

792
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: let's show what it can be if you stick with

793
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: us in the future. But then Da rushes Jackson jar

794
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: to the forefront because remember he was hand picked to

795
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 4: be the quarterback of the future by that regime winning doubt.

796
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 4: You go to those guys because you're trying to show ownership. Hey,

797
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: this is why we believe that we're going to turn

798
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: the corner. This quarterback gives us a chance to do. So.

799
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the analogy here, Buck. Okay it is.

800
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: It's November.

801
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: It's November fifteenth, and your wife, your spouse comes up

802
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to here and goes, hey, I know you wanted that

803
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: new driver.

804
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: You love golf.

805
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: I got you the new driver, but you can't open

806
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: it till Christmas. So I've got it. It's in the garage.

807
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: But you know, just let's wait till Christmas.

808
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Buck, we get to we get to November twenty fifth,

809
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: you've played two rounds of golf, not quite dial. Then

810
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: you're like you know what, babe, I'll take my Christmas early.

811
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take that driver out to the

812
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: course and see if we can't play a little bit better.

813
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: I think that there's I think that you cannot hide

814
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: your enthusiasm, and Brian dabol has not been able to

815
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: hide it at all about Jackson Dart, and I think

816
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: the first sign of trouble, and that doesn't necessarily have

817
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: to be in the form of a win or a loss.

818
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: It could be in the form of man, I had

819
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: three play calls that were perfect in this game, and

820
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: Russ didn't hit him. The first sign I think Jackson

821
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: Dart gets in there, man, I think they're they're excited

822
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: to get him out there.

823
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: Well, look, there's reasonable, Look they should be excited when

824
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: when you look at him DJ, there's a lot to like.

825
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: I liked him on tape and I viewed him as

826
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: a first rounder from the jump. There's some things about

827
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 4: him that I think translate really really well to the league.

828
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: Not only is athleticism and the arm talent. I just

829
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: felt like when I watched the tape that he's a pro.

830
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: Now how Brian dave Ball fully brings all that out,

831
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see, but I can understand why

832
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: they were fascinate about it.

833
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 3: And the more that you and I.

834
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: Talked to him when he came to NFL Network, the

835
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: more that we heard the reports about how him the meetings,

836
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 4: the more that I'm pretty confident that he's gonna be

837
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: pretty solid when he gets his chance.

838
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it.

839
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Last question, how many snaps do you realistically expect Travis

840
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: Hunter to play on each side of the ball.

841
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a slow cook early,

842
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: but coaches agreed and we can say, oh, we can

843
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: put the restricts on him. To me, I wouldn't view

844
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: him as a two way player. I would view him

845
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: as a one and a half way player, meaning he's

846
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 4: going to start full time on offense and then he's

847
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: going to be a part time halfway player on defense.

848
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: I would say, if this is high school DJ.

849
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: Homecoming game where we know it's a sure win, I

850
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: may not play as much League title game hate Trev

851
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: A lot of go yeah, you're going. I think that's

852
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: the formerly, that's the recipe. But I'm excited and what

853
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 4: I hope selfishly, I hope this goes well because what

854
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: I would love to see is more guys in the

855
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: lower rank trend do this coming up because if we

856
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: get some of these five stars playing both sides, it's

857
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: only going to enhance the pool, the talent pool, and

858
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: that's going to force some of the pro guys to

859
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, we're gonna try and get everything out

860
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: of everybody that we have.

861
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: That is something that has really changed. By the way,

862
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: even at the big high schools.

863
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't go to a big high school, but even

864
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: at the big high schools, the best players were playing

865
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: both ways. Man Like back in the nineties when we

866
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: were coming up through.

867
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: DJ. I don't know why.

868
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why you wouldn't fully take advantage of

869
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: what you potentially have by not playing both ways. And

870
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they have to be four time players,

871
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: but I am saying they should be practicing both ways.

872
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, like everybody tells you,

873
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: just like saving all the men, you want the best

874
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: eleven on the field on both sides of the ball.

875
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Speaker 4: And we have seen I would say a noticeable decline

876
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Speaker 4: and maybe athleticism and skill between wide receivers and defensive

877
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: backs because a lot of the high schools are pulling

878
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: the best athletes and putting them at wide receiver. Well,

879
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 4: imagine if you can up the athleticism on the defense

880
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: side of the ball by using some of those athletes.

881
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Speaker 3: At wide out on defense. That makes sense to me.

882
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: I think that's what most high school coaches would do,

883
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 4: And I would say this, let's not muddy it up.

884
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: Let's keep it simple. College pros, use your best players.

885
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: If you can use them both ways in a sensible way,

886
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: why not do it.

887
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the message to the other kids that aren't

888
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: going to get a chance to start in those games

889
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: because you got two way players says, hey, look, if

890
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: we play Billy both ways, we're gonna be up by

891
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: so much. You get to play the whole second half.

892
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: You can do the whole second it's all yours. But

893
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Billy's gonna play both ways for the first two quarters.

894
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Billy's gonna play both ways. And guess what. There's a

895
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: third phase the kicking game. You can run down on kickoffs.

896
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Make it tackle, you can do something kick off return.

897
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: We can find a spot for you there. But yeah,

898
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: there are spots. There's a full starting unit in the

899
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: kicking game where you can be a start.

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Speaker 1: YEP, and every time, Billy that little helmet, you run

901
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: your little toush out there and go get us some work.

902
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Speaker 3: That's it.

903
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Speaker 1: Hey, this has been a fun way, great questions by

904
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Speaker 1: the way. Appreciate you guys lobbing all those.

905
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Speaker 2: Questions our way.

906
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Speaker 1: We'll try to do this a little more often, especially

907
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Speaker 1: as we're in the offseason.

908
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Speaker 2: Anything you want to before we get out of here, Buck.

909
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Speaker 3: No, man, it's always fun when we have a chance

910
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Speaker 3: to get it ready for the fans. I love the questions.

911
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Speaker 3: That quite is fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you next

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Speaker 1: time right here on moving the sticks.