1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Professional home Girls, it's your girl Abe with a 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: quick housekeeping note. Please keep in mind that this episode 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: is part one. Part two will drop next week. Also, 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: my guest let's have a book out, so if you 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: are interested in reading more about her life in or 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: supporting her, please make sure to email me at Hello 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: at the PhD podcast dot com. I really do hope 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: you all enjoy this week's episode and until next time, 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: everyone later, Welcome. 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So let's again 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: this week's episode. I found this professional home girl on 29 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: YouTube and her story is so powerful and very inspiring. 30 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Plus her story he's close to home for me because 31 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: my grandma Rose, who I never got a chance to meet, 32 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: died from AIDS and received it from her husband who 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: also died from AI's. So I would really like to 34 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: say thank you for being a part of the PhD 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: podcast and share your story and shedding light on this 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: topic because I feel like this is normal and I 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people are not talking about it. 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: So to my guests, how are you feeling, I'm doing well. Actually, 39 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I feel really good. I'm super excited. Um, I was 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: so happy when you reached out to me. I was 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: just like, oh, shoot up. But at the alreadio and 42 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: the fact that um, you're black, and I was just like, 43 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, I definitely want to support you, know, so 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: congratulations like a newborn baby. Thank you, thank you so much. 45 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: She's so precious. I know, she's so yummy. UM. So, 46 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: how has the pandemic been treating you in your family? Um? Actually, 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: in the beginning, it was very scary. Um. Actually went 48 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: through a depression in the beginning of the pandemic, UM, 49 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: because I actually found out I was pregnant, and you know, 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the first timemester was horrible. So h but now it's like, 51 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: is it still here girl? Are you in the south right? Yes? 52 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: I am, okay, yeah, so I know y'all outside outside. 53 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: What made you want to share your story on YouTube? Um? 54 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: That is funny because somebody asked me that before and 55 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I actually didn't have an answer before. But I actually 56 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: sat down and thought about, like what really made me 57 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: do this? And I just remember when I first found 58 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: out that I was HIV positive at the age of nineteen. 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I want on YouTube to look for um, somebody at 60 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: least somebody, you know, to encourage me, or somebody out 61 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: there that's living the way I had to, you know, um, 62 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: the way I found out somebody young and and it's 63 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: life after this, you know, because I didn't have any 64 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: hope at the time. So I was like, I want 65 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: to be that person to help somebody else because I 66 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: remembered I didn't have nobody, you know, and I just 67 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm still shocked, Like I'm the way I'm talking. I'm 68 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: just like, damn you did that. Because if somebody was 69 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: to find out that their HIV positive, they can find 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: me and understand that it is a life after HIV. 71 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: You are HIV, you're human. So that is the reason 72 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: why I opened up and told the whole world my story, 73 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: regardless of what people would think of me. What has 74 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: been some of the feedback you received since you've been 75 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: more open about your life? UM, actually negative and positive feedbacks, 76 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: but of course the positive outweigh the negative. UM. I 77 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: had people in box me or write me and say, UM, 78 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: even thirteen old little girls or girls younger than that, 79 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: that they're ready to come out and tell what's going 80 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: on with them? UM, who's doing what to them? Family 81 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: members touching on them. UM, people who secretly kept HIV 82 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: to themselves because they felt like it was nothing. It's 83 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: women older than me, you know, said that. You know, 84 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: I gave them hope. You know about afterlife? UM, what 85 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean about after life is life after HIV you 86 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: know so, Um, But the negative comments, Oh, it's my fault, 87 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: you know. Um, you deserve it. Um, Why are you 88 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: putting your business out? You know? But that lets you know, 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: maybe that person either they've never been through nothing, or 90 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: they don't understand that. You know, you need somebody, or 91 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: you need some encouragement, you know. But sometimes people out 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: like life never hit them before, you know. So. And 93 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: also because I know you are HIV positive, were you 94 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: nervous about the coronavirus um you were pregnant too, Yeah, 95 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: but no, I wasn't nervous at all because I believe 96 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: the promise that God gave me. And I always made 97 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: that clear when I talk about my story that God 98 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: made me a promise and I didn't understand it at 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: first because I really didn't receive it at first, you know, 100 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: but multiple people told me, you know, that's in the 101 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: spiritual world, that God was gonna bless me and heal me. 102 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: So some of the things that happened to you would 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: have broken a lot of people. What do you think 104 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: motivation to keep going because you've been through a lot 105 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. Honestly, God like God, When I said, God 106 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: like He's been promising me from the beginning that he 107 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: got me. And I didn't understand that at first. You know, Um, 108 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: I didn't want to believe it because I'm like, well, God, 109 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: if you PROMI it me, then why this happened to me? 110 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: You know? Why? Why me? You know, but to show 111 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: me that I have a purpose. And I understand that 112 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people is stuck, and I sometimes I'm 113 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of confused of why why be stuck unless you 114 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: want to be stuck. But you know, sometimes people don't 115 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: know how to come out of stuff because they don't 116 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: have that support, they don't have that love, they don't 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: know who God is, they don't embrace mother nature, you know. Um, 118 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: So I understand because there was one point where I 119 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: was stuck. I was confused and I thought maybe if 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I moved from city to city, because that is something 121 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I did at a young age. I just kept moving 122 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: hoping that you know, something that happened for me, or 123 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: eventually I'll change or you know, stuff like that. So 124 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: I understand. But get up, breathe, trust God, pray about it. 125 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: You can get out of it. M hm. So let's 126 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: start from the beginning. So I pretty much watched all 127 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: your videos on on your YouTube page, and I created 128 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: a timeline of events that happened to you up until 129 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: this point. So tell us about your upbringing, because like, wow, 130 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: so honestly, I never had a childhood, and people will 131 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: be always do I feel like I never had a childhood, 132 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: but ahead like people were like, what do you mean 133 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: you never had a childhood? I never had a childhood. 134 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: I never knew what it's like to be a child, 135 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, because from the age of eight that I 136 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: can remember. See, sometimes things happen to people. Trauma happens 137 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: that you actually don't remember. Um, some things that happened before. 138 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: And I believe there's multiple things happened to me before 139 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: because the family that I was in at the time. Um, 140 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: from the age of eight, I was being molested in 141 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: rape by family over and over, over and over and 142 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: over and over and over. So it's like I went 143 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: from being molested and raped to having having to raise 144 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: my siblings because you know, my mom at work or 145 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: my mom was clubbing, you know, before she got saved. Um, 146 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: she was out there, you know what I'm saying. So, UM, 147 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I just had to be the big sister, slashed the mom. 148 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, I had to be an adult really early, 149 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: and my mom was married into a family that was evil, 150 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: that believe in incests. Like when I said, that is 151 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: sleeping with each other and regardless blood or not, that's 152 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: what they believe. They share each other. But so you're 153 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: talking about your father's side of the family. No, my 154 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: mom ex husband family mm hm yes, stepfather right, my 155 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: ex stepfather right? So um with my real father, Um, 156 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: he was in prison for um raping kids. He was 157 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: in sex so um at the time. Am I Now 158 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: that I'm older, I understand what my mom did and 159 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: why she was the way she was because she was 160 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: stuck because my dad actually was My mom was one 161 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: of the kids that my dad molested and she was 162 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: a child and she had me, so I was that's 163 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. So actually I was born by a 164 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: rapist and that's your real father that's in jail because 165 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: he's a sex offender. Correct. Right. And then she married 166 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: your stepfather and his family took you in and they 167 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: was molesting you and were raping you and heaven and 168 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: they was doing stuff with their family members and they 169 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: were incest with each other. Correct. Oh man, that's a lot. 170 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: I do. Mom never talked about this. I used to. 171 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, I used to blame her. 172 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: I used to blame her so much. Like I used 173 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: to I used to blame her so much. But once 174 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I got older, I understand. I listen to the stories. 175 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: I listened to both sides, and I could never blame 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: her because she didn't know. She was a child, you know, Um, 177 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: when she met my real father, she was between the 178 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: age of fifteen and sixteen years old. Um, what my 179 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: real father did was he take um kids between the 180 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: age of six and seventeen and call them um, put 181 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: them in the church together and call them preachers and pastors. 182 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: And the whole time he's sleeping with him. He was 183 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: a married man. The wife knew and everything. Um. Also, 184 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I used to blame her because of what her ex 185 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: husband family did when she was so young. She didn't 186 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: know how to be a mother. She didn't she didn't know, 187 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: she didn't know herself, you know, and she didn't even 188 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: know what's going on. Even though my mom I felt like, 189 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: you know that, I felt like she should have known 190 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: the signs because she knows what it feels like to 191 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: be rape and molested. Also, Um, she know what it 192 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: feels like to be used and manipulated. So I used 193 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: to blame her, but now that I'm a mother, you 194 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: know you can't can't know everything tuning for seven. But 195 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: see also another reason why I know I can't blame 196 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: her because my mom always told us if somebody touched you, 197 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: you come to her. And I didn't know my mom 198 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: was molested until I got grown. Um, I didn't know 199 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: she did. She ended up telling me I didn't know, um, 200 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: because you know, she kept that stuff from us because 201 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: we would't understand at a young age. But she always said, 202 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: like when she picked us up from that family, Hey, 203 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: did anybody touch you down there? We used to lie no. 204 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: And I noticed that I told my husband is before. 205 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I feel like as black women, for some reason, UM, 206 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: children or an adult, we are so afraid to speak. UM. 207 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: We are so afraid to speak even if we feel 208 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable UM about something, it's like we won't say anything. 209 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: And that just lets me know that it started from 210 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: the home, you know, for for you to be fearful 211 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: and feel like, well, maybe I just want to be 212 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: that peacemaker. UM. When I decided to tell UM, I 213 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: think I told around probably like I was like ten, maybe, UM. 214 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: I finally said you know what, Because I remember it 215 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: was like two years later. I finally said enough was enough. 216 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: And when I told that I was getting raped with 217 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: my less step by that family, my mom ex husband 218 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: UM put me in the room hurt my mom and 219 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: my mom ex as was talking to me. They started 220 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: asking me questions about um like they were just basically 221 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: in and beewing me to see if I knew about sex. Um, 222 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: if I really got if it really happened, how would 223 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: I know? Like so, I described things that I shouldn't 224 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: have never described to them, and I didn't know if 225 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: they believed me or not. But I remember that my 226 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: mom told me to go to bed that um my 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: mom ex husband followed behind me, gave me a flashlight, 228 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: told me to leave the house. It was like twelve 229 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning. I know it was really late. 230 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: Um he had me to walk on the dark street 231 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: with a flashlight where we stayed. At the time, I 232 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: knew that I was close to my my grandmother who 233 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: passed away. God blessed to dead. I love you, Brenda Um. 234 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: She passed away and I knew for a fact my 235 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: mission was to go to her house. I didn't know 236 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: how I was gonna get there, I was gonna run 237 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: and somebody try to kid me. But I knew that 238 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: was my best friend. That's who I needed to get to. 239 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: So like, as I was walking, not to interrupt you, 240 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: but this is your mom's mom. Yes, m so um, 241 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I was walking down the streak with a flashlight and 242 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: I started crying because I felt like, you know, it's 243 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: my fault because his words were, you need to leave 244 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: my house because you're trying to break up my family. 245 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't know at the time that that family 246 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: was like that. You know, I didn't know that they 247 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: covered each other up, you know. Um, you know if 248 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: somebody get molested, they bury it. You know. I didn't 249 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: know that. So I'm just like, it's my fault. I 250 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't never said nothing. I you kept it to myself. 251 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: But that's not how life works. You know, that's not normal. 252 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Because eventually I thought it was normal, so I continued 253 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: that it happened to me, that's all, you know, right, 254 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: But when this is turned out, like when did you 255 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: find out that the family like there was insects going 256 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: on in the family, that that's what his family did, 257 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Like did people people are talking about in the family 258 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: or because like you just started putting two and two 259 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: together because you were young at the time. Well, at 260 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: the time, I used to watch it, they used to 261 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: doing in front of me. Um. So when I got older, 262 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I started to realize that that's not normal, that's nasty. Um, 263 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: it's not right. You know. It took me time I 264 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: got older to understand, but I actually seen it with 265 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: my own eyes. Damn. I can't imagine how fucked up, 266 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: like how that really messed with your psyche and you 267 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: were a kid, like you're a baby. Yeah, yeah, that's sucking, disgusting. Um. 268 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any like honest, like happy memories growing up? No? 269 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I mean no, no, All right, did you 270 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: ever tell your grandma what happened? I honestly don't remember. 271 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I honestly don't remember. And that's crazy. I 272 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: never thought about that, but I honestly don't remember. Well, 273 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure when you got around her, you probably 274 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: forgot about like a lot of things because that was 275 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: like a happy space for you. I didn't want to 276 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: think about certain things I did because when I got 277 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: gang raped by my god brothers. Um, I don't know 278 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: if I wasn't gonna Yeah, I wasn't gonna bring it 279 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: up because I felt like it's you had a lot 280 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: going on. So I didn't want to bring up certain 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: things because I didn't know if it was gonna trigger 282 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: you or not. But since you browed up, yeah, I 283 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: saw that you said that you got gain right by 284 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: I think three or four four your brothers, god brothers. Yes, 285 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: it was three. Um. I honestly forgot about that until 286 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: that turned eighteen years old and I remember my mom. 287 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: I have no clue. Um, I don't know. For some reason, 288 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: it seems like when you have trauma, things don't come 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: up or you try to not remember things. But maybe 290 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: maybe it what triggered it was that I was thinking 291 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: when I first had when I first finally, you know, 292 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: decided to give up my virginity, it didn't hurt, you know, 293 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: it didn't give what people said it would give and 294 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: painful leading. I didn't get none of that. Um. So 295 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I was like, why does it not hurt? Why does 296 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: it Why do I'm not feeling anything? I feel numb 297 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: to it. You know. Sex is not what people made 298 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: it seems like. So before we continue on with the conversation, 299 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question. I think incests 300 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: is common because I feel like a lot of people 301 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: don't talk about it, but it seems like it happens 302 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: a lot within start your households. I believe that it 303 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: happens in majority and in a lot of people homes. 304 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: People don't talk about it. Um, just like how was 305 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: at a young age, I thought it was normal. Um. 306 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes people don't even come out of it. I know 307 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: people to this day still sleep with their cousin. There 308 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of cousins together, They definitely do. UM. A 309 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: lot of times people don't talk about it because it's 310 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: a normal thing in the household. Matter of fact. Um, 311 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: the grandmother who I was attached to from that family, UM, 312 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: she actually told me to stay with um my ex husband, 313 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: even though he did everything that he did. Also she 314 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: told me just basically deal with whatever he did to me, Um, 315 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: even though he is a bisexual man, that I should 316 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: still stay with him. Um, even though he's dating the 317 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: man now. Um. She also told me, you know, basically 318 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: she knew what was going on scoring on her home 319 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: and she brushed it off. So um she did it 320 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: passed away um recently actually, And I said, even though 321 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: she was the way she was. She did take care 322 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: of me, you know. Um Sometimes as us blacks, I 323 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: would say that because I've seen a lot Um sometimes 324 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: even when the person do something to us, it's like 325 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: we still have a heart, we still love them and 326 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: care for them. And sometimes I hate that I'm like that, 327 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: but I believe that that's just how I'm built. Because 328 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: even though the person UM that molests me at eight 329 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: years old, UM, I forgave him because I see him 330 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: a couple of times before, and his wife even reached 331 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: out to me and asked me about the situation. I 332 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: told her the truth and the thing the reason um 333 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: family talked about it. I'm pretty sure family brought it 334 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: up UM to her and she asked me about it 335 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: and comeing to found out she had a similar sor 336 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: and something happened to her around that age and then 337 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: she you know, so it's like you can tell that 338 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: she thinks it's normal because she's still married to him 339 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: and she had kids right after that. Mm hmm. Yeah, 340 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: that's scary, and it's like, how do you protect the kids? 341 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Right Um, And that's and that's what happened with me. 342 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm very overprotective. I don't let my children live. And 343 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: that's right. That's why I'm currently in counseling for that 344 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: because when you've seen so much at a young age 345 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: and now, because like I told you before, my real 346 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: father he's still a pastor. You know what he's doing. 347 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So it's like, wait, wait, wait, 348 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: real father is a he's a pastor, but how is 349 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: he a pastor and a sex offender? He's a bishop 350 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: and a sex offender. Listen, tell you, like I tell 351 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: people to ask me, that that between him and God, 352 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: because sometimes I don't understand it. I don't understand how 353 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: you're a bishop and you're sleeping with men and knowing 354 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: that their wives are there. You know, right exactly, you 355 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: know that's between them and God and they have to 356 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: be economy for that. Right. Well, I know about an 357 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: age of thirteen, you spoke about how you had a rich, 358 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: white sugar daddy. So how did you meet him? Because 359 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: I know you had another one when you was eighteen? 360 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: So um, okay, So when I was like thirteen, he 361 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: was actually black. He was a black um guy. I 362 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: was selling CDs for my parents and my mom had 363 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: got remarried to my dad, not my real father, my stepdad, 364 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: but I don't call him stepdad. Um. She got married 365 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: to my dad and they were they started singing group 366 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: because my parents like my mom now she's really saved, 367 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: like she wasn't like that back then. She's really saved. 368 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: And my dad's too. So they started a gospel group 369 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: or whatever. And my parents normal hustlers, so they have 370 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: to sell the CDs because I can sell a dog 371 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: a bone, like what you do, have that personality. So 372 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: UM fell the cities and this guy, UM, this older man, 373 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: he was talking to me. And I mean, I knew 374 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: what sugar daddy was because my mom had one. My 375 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: aunties had one, so I knew how the game and go. 376 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's up to you what you're gonna do 377 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: about it. And I was a child, so I didn't know. 378 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: But um he talked to me. We um, we exchanged numbers. 379 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I just couldn't figure out why he was only able 380 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: to call me. I didn't understand that because child, you know. 381 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: But UM, once I turned a certain age when I 382 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: got grown, um he kind of cut me off. And 383 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: I was telling my husband. As I was writing writing 384 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: UM my book, I was talking to my husband about it. 385 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: And I said, I just didn't understand. And I said, 386 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: wait a minute, are you telling me that this man 387 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: was a sex offender? And I didn't know, because who 388 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: the heck would talk to a thirteen year old child 389 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: all the way up until she turned eighteen? No, he 390 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: wanted to go, but for me, I was like no, okay, 391 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: Like I was, I was like scared. So it's like 392 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: when I'm like, when I actually see him again at 393 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen, he found out, I was, um no. 394 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: The last time I stopped no no, I was seventeen 395 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: years old and he wanted to sleep with me. I 396 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: was like, I just can't do it. Like I knew 397 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: for a fact, I just couldn't do it. You know, 398 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: the money is good, but I don't think it was 399 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: worth it. But when he found out I had turned 400 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: eighteen right after that, that's when we cut sized. So 401 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: I found out and realized that I believe that he 402 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: was a sex offender because he was owned enough to 403 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: be my granddad. So why was you talking to a 404 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: thirteen girl? Said by me Being in life, I think 405 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: it's normal, So you know, this was the normal thing 406 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: to me. Meant like older men talked to young girls. 407 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Like because the things that I saw, I thought it 408 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: was normal. Mm hmm. Yeah, I'm just curious were you 409 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: active in school, Like were you going to school on 410 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a regular basis? Yes, I was, because I asked somebody 411 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: to else this question. It was one of my guests, 412 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: and she was uh physically and sexually abused by her stepfather. 413 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: And it just makes me think about how a teacher 414 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: used to play like a very pivotal girl when he 415 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: was growing up in school. And I always felt like 416 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: nobody in school saw the signs of things that you 417 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: was going, like something was going on with you as 418 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: a kid. Well she um actually was supposed to talk 419 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: about this soon. Um. So basically what I didn't understand 420 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: was how the teachers, the principles did not see designs 421 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: like when I get molested, the signs are rebellions attention, 422 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: you know. Um, I was very rebellious and I was 423 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I was like seeking for attention, and the kids used 424 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: to treat me so bad in school, Like people were 425 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: treated me like I was a disease. But what people 426 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: don't know was like I was going to school and 427 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: turned around went home to get molested. Now, another thing 428 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: that um I wrote in my book was when I 429 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: my first the first time it was going on, I 430 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: actually went to another school. Now I didn't mention to 431 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: tell my subscribers on YouTube that I had an I 432 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: E P at one point because my mom didn't understand 433 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: why I was the way I was, so she put 434 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: me in E s C. She thought I was just 435 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: like acting now, but in reality is I was being molested. 436 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: So I was crying out for help, and in like 437 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: so many way, He's just like what can I do 438 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: for you to understand that I'm crying for help? Like 439 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: what else I have to do? So I just started 440 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: being so bad to where she just couldn't handle me anymore. 441 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: So they started putting me on meds and all kinds 442 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: of stuff, but nobody knew what was going on. Like, 443 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, there's one time that when I said, knuckle 444 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: is enough, you know, um, he punched me in my head, 445 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: you know. So I was like at that point, it 446 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: was just at force. You know, I shouldn't have to 447 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: win through that. And I didn't stopped for a very 448 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: long time. But when I actually did started talking about it, 449 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, it just went left. So I believe I 450 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: said that I have never told anyone else about molestation 451 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: or rape, because I was just afraid of what happened 452 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: the first time, you know, and I thought my mom 453 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: had something to do with that, but she didn't. So 454 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: so at you said he started stripping and you actually 455 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I think I felt a little likeness 456 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: in that before we started talking about other stuff. Um, okay, 457 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: so let me tell you your girl was like when 458 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: I tell you at seventeen, I was just this girl 459 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: who would have felt like life was hard. You know, 460 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: it's time for me to get some money. So I 461 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: got a lot job at Wendy's. Wendy's was not paying 462 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: nothing at that time when he was playing like eight 463 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: dollars an hour, so I was just like, you know, 464 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: this ain't enough. So my cousin actually, um, she had 465 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: introduced scripping to me, and I knew I had the 466 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: body because you know, I'd no kids. I got a 467 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: big embody. I was like, I could put this to 468 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: use because I always had a sugar daddy growing up, 469 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: so I know I got to be some type of bag. 470 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: And then it's like older men, they like always was 471 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: attracted to me, and I never understood that at a 472 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: young age. So I took advantage of the fact that 473 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: I have like at the time, I looked at like, 474 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: um innocent. Um. I used my innocent eyes because I'm 475 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: really young. So at eighteen, I went to the script 476 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: club and I lied and told them that I knew 477 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: what I was doing, and I used to scrip like 478 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't nothing, honey. I couldn't even twirl on a pole, 479 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: but the girls was nice enough to help me and 480 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: educate me when it came down stripping. Once I gotta 481 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: like a hang op it or whatever. Um, your girl 482 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: was biging bay, but I wasn't. Um. Let's see, the 483 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: most I made on one night was like four thousand dollars. 484 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: But that's good for where I'm from. Like from this, 485 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't really that good unless you go to like 486 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: my scare of or something that's amazing I did. Um. 487 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: I didn't do nothing crazy, but you know I didn't 488 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: clap a little to it is here and I'm just 489 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: it was seriously. I did a video. Shoot. Um. It 490 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: was this guy he was a rapper or whatever, um, 491 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: and he wanted to pay the scrippers to you know, 492 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: dance for him. So that was like the most money 493 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I made because of that, um, and I was like like, um, 494 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: like clapping my breast in the video. Shoot. So once 495 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I became a mother, when I had my oldest child, 496 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: I immediately went to YouTube and reported that video so 497 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: much to YouTube take it down. Um why because because 498 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. Like at that time, I was young, 499 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I was free, I didn't have a husband, I didn't 500 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: have any kids, so I was living my best life 501 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: that I thought. But um, but once I got I 502 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: got with my husband, the video was already like gone. 503 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: So I couldn't even show him because I honestly wanted 504 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: to show him just in case somebody was to try 505 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to go to my husband be like oh yo, oh yo, 506 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: wife did this? No I did that. My husband not 507 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: really know who Valentina is. He met Valentina before and 508 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Valentine was much striper name. That's like a little ego 509 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: things situation. So what made you decide to move to 510 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: tell her housey tell houthy? Um, So my dad had 511 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: um got to present. Not to cut you off, but 512 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: it's a real for you keep for you to say 513 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: your dad, Um, no, okay, it's it's like it's normal 514 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: because in reality is my real father? How much I 515 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: really don't like it because I tried to convince my 516 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: mom that I don't believe that's my dad and that 517 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: she won't tell me who my real dad is. But 518 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: that's my dad. So so UM, Okay, So I have 519 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: this thing where I tell you guys on YouTube that UM, 520 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: the medicine, the HIV medicine that I'm on makes me forget. 521 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: So I do not remember what you actually no, So 522 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I actually what made you move to tell hassy. So 523 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: my real dad had got out of present reached out 524 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: UM to me and before then my sister UM. I 525 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: was just riding a car with my mom and I 526 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: was like, have you heard from my sister, like my 527 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: real sister on my dad's side, And she said no, 528 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know why I asked 529 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: that because I haven't talked to her in years, and 530 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: we like have a huge age gap, like she's way 531 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: older than me. So she's like ten years older than me, 532 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I believe UM. So for some reason, you know messenger 533 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: UM on Facebook at the time, you couldn't really see 534 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: when somebody sent you a message request you have to 535 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: actually go in there. For some reason, I was playing 536 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: with messenger and I found it and I've seen that. 537 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: My real sister reached out to me. So we started 538 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: talking on the phone and um, all of that stuff. 539 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: And I just had a miscarriage, so I was kind 540 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: of like vulnerable. Um, and you know, she encouraged me 541 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: to move down there, and um, she wanted my real 542 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: dad to get in touch me. Basically convinced me to 543 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: move to Salasseee. So I end up moving to Tallahassee. 544 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: And reality, I believe I was just supposed to just 545 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: go and visit, didn't come back home, but I ain't 546 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: up staying there to go to school. And also, you 547 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: was going to church a lot, and you said that 548 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: a pastor came up to you and told you that 549 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: a man was about to enter your life and he 550 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: was gonna do you no good. Do you sometimes blame 551 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: yourself and not believe in the signs that God was 552 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: giving you? Um, I used to blame myself mhm. But 553 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we all, you know, fall short. We 554 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: all do things that we shouldn't have done, and it's 555 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: nothing that we can do about it. I can't go, 556 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: I can't just sit and just like like, man, I 557 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: wish I had did this. I wish i'all did that 558 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: because hey, I wish I would have did right by 559 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: my script of money. I'll probably be funded them where 560 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: I am, you know. But um, I can't just do 561 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: well on that. And her name is a possibility. Love it. Um. 562 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: If you're in salahassee father, I definitely recommend her church. 563 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: Is very awesome woman to God. She's very truthful. Um. 564 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: She'd definitely been telling me for a very long time 565 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: that God told me to leave him alone and that 566 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: I was going to meet somebody and they're gonna mean 567 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: you no good. Um. A matter of fact, I didn't 568 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: talk about this on YouTube at all, Like this probably 569 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: my first time menting this. But she actually met me 570 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: prior before all of this happened, before she even told 571 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: me that. She actually wanted me to come to her 572 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: church and sit down and talk to me. And she 573 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: told me in her own like, oh my god, I 574 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: like remembering this, it's just crazy. But she told me 575 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: she was like, I see something on the news, something 576 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: bad about me, and I was just like what, who 577 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: was not gonna try to kill me? I didn't move 578 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: back home, and she actually told me me moving from 579 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Jacksonville was actually a good thing because somebody was trying 580 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: to kill me and Jacksonville. So time I was going 581 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: to college, I was doing really good. Uh, but you know, 582 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: I got caught up at a man. But she told 583 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: me beforehand, you know that something was gonna happen and 584 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: it was gonna end up on the news, and the 585 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: whole entire situation ended up on me six months later, 586 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: So she was not lying. Everything that she told me 587 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: came to pass. Yeah, so how did you meet? I 588 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: actually met him. Um, he actually came to my house, 589 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: like she said he was. Um, he kept my dad 590 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: bring up the TV for my sister because my dad 591 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: is an older man and you know, my excess as 592 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: they looked younger. So um, he brought up the TV 593 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: up the stairs with my sister and put in her room. 594 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: They wasn't there having a conversation. Me and my dad 595 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: was talking in the living room. So I really was 596 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: not paying him an intention. But um, I noticed when 597 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: um they was walking out, he kept staring at me. 598 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: But I knew I was sexy, so I knew why 599 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: he was staring at me. But I was trying to 600 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: basically at first pushed him on my sister. I was like, 601 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, making it seems like he was sluting with 602 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: her or whatever. Um, and they were laughing at laughing 603 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: at each other about the situation. But I knew for 604 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: a fact he was trying to come on to me. 605 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: And how old was he when y'all met? Um, when 606 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: we met, I think he was like between the age 607 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: of thirty four and thirty five. I think he was 608 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: like thirty five. Yes, So when did you start today? Um? 609 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: So he had left, UM a little bit afterwards, like 610 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: we were still keeping like in contact talking to each other. Um. 611 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: But see, at the time, I didn't know that he 612 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: left to be with a man. I thought he left 613 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: to be a family, but come and found out he 614 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: was actually with men. UM. So he came back. What 615 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: do you mean he left, like he left the town. 616 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: So basically, Um, it's crazy, but I found out, you know, 617 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: he was actually a sex offender also, UM. So he 618 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: got our probation for being a sex offender. Um. He 619 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: went out of town for a little while to be 620 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: with his men friends and then he came back. Um 621 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: since Tallahassee to live, you know where he was at 622 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: and UM, I didn't know that at the time. So 623 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: he actually gave my dad around Christmas, he gave my 624 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: dad a promise rain to give me because he had 625 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: somewhere else to go. Um, So when he came back, 626 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: that's when we started actually dating and we actually had 627 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: sex for the first time. And then yes he did 628 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: so it's crazy, listen, I know, but it was so 629 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: good so I didn't even want to stop. I never 630 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: had a penis like that before. You know, I'm young, 631 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: it's an older man. I never had no real you 632 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, bank and bang banging, so I 633 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: thought it was okay, you know, but afterwards, me not 634 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: thinking me being so young minded, I didn't I asked him. 635 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: I was like, like, for you to do that? Do 636 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: you trust me? Like you trust me? I could have 637 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: had anything. And the thing is, now, what I should 638 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: have asked is did you trust him? You don't even 639 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: know this man? Like why would you? When he smuck 640 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: that condom? All you should have got up and said, now, 641 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm okay, you know you you just so it was 642 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: not that it wasn't worth it, baby, Like I tell 643 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: myself that, now, did you see him speaking offence? Didn't? 644 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: I just knew ain't no way and hacked this man 645 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: like he this is this good. But then I realized 646 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: he was struggling, like he had pulled out for a second, 647 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just like everything okay. When I turned around, 648 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: I noticed that he was struggling, so put the condom 649 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: back on. So this concludes this week's episode. If you 650 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: have any questions, comments, or concerns, please make sure to 651 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: email me at hello at the PhD podcast dot com. 652 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Part two we'll be dropping next week. As always, thank 653 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: you so much for supporting the kid, and until next time, 654 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: everyone lay there