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Speaker 1: This is Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District, Death

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Speaker 2: Drove Downhill Touchdown Same Hawks, broadcasting live from Bellevue Square

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Speaker 3: Here's your host's Michael Buffers.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to Hawk Slide presented by the Dining

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Speaker 4: District at the Bellvy Collection.

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Speaker 5: The show starts at seven.

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Speaker 4: Every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven to ten,

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Speaker 4: broadcast in line from Belvy Squares Center Court. I'm Michael

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Speaker 4: Bumpas along with my guy Paul Moyer. This young man

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Speaker 4: sitting next to me is from rock Hill, South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: He is one of the top tight end prospects coming

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Speaker 4: out of high school and the number eleven ranked Titan nationally.

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Speaker 4: It offers from Arkansas, Ole, Miss, North Carolina, South Carolina,

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Speaker 4: and Virginia Tech, but decided to go to the University

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Speaker 4: of Alabama. There, he was a four year letterman, playing

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Speaker 4: tight end and helping pave the way for guys like

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Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe. He was converted to a fullback and was

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Speaker 4: drafted by the Seattle Seahawks in the fifth round. Ladies

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Speaker 4: and gentlemen, give it up for fullback. Robbie Oots go.

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Speaker 4: We always want to Thank you guys for joining us

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Speaker 4: on a Thursday. You guys got a lot going on.

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Speaker 4: You're going to practice, team meetings and dinner and all that,

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Speaker 4: so we appreciate your time. How's it the Northwest been

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Speaker 4: treating you so far?

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Speaker 7: Loving it like I was saying, it's growing on me

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Speaker 7: every single day. Love it out here and avid golfers.

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Speaker 4: So anybody want to hook up my mammles on free golf,

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Speaker 4: you know, hit him up on Instagram and make sure

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Speaker 4: he gets out there.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Just talk about the week man, how's this week been

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Speaker 4: treating you?

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Speaker 5: How you're feeling about this weekend?

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Speaker 8: It's been going good.

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Speaker 7: Week three, just kind of figuring some things out as

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Speaker 7: an offense, as a team. I'm just excited to go

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Speaker 7: out there and put it on tape.

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Speaker 9: We talked also, he likes to hunt, so there's lots

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Speaker 9: of hunting and fishing out here, so for those of

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Speaker 9: you who are hunters, he can come up and help

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Speaker 9: him out on that too. Talk about this transition, you know,

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Speaker 9: tight End, you kind of played an h backer off

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Speaker 9: the ball a bunch to it looked like in Alabama.

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Speaker 9: How big of an adjustment is that though? Just to

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Speaker 9: move all the way behind the quarterback and center.

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Speaker 8: It's a it's a good bit of a adjustment.

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Speaker 7: I would say I did do a lot of things

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Speaker 7: similar to what I'm doing now, just kind of off

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Speaker 7: the ball, kind of motion them back and forth, a

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Speaker 7: lot of power scheme type stuff. But I never really

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Speaker 7: looked at it from the running backs perspective. I was

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Speaker 7: always from the tight ends perspective. So now with the

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Speaker 7: help of coach kp he's really helped me to key

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Speaker 7: in on the structure of the defense and what my

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Speaker 7: a little bit differently from a running backs perspective, if

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Speaker 6: Well, the world opened up last week.

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Speaker 9: There's been a lot of a lot of you know,

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Speaker 9: not just pressed but social media. Your your two pancake blocks,

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Speaker 9: and I think that's what they.

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Speaker 6: Had in mind when when they got you. But when

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Speaker 9: There's not a lot of fullbacks in this league, and

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Speaker 9: obviously when a Seahawks got Qbac, they had talked about

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Speaker 6: So two things on that. Did you think it would

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Speaker 9: And my guess is, you know, the Seahawks certainly we're

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Speaker 7: I that if if the Seahawks took a chance on me,

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Speaker 7: it was going to be for fullback. Everything that they

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Speaker 7: the Koobix system thrives around a full back. But it

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Speaker 8: Kind of fifty to fifty if you will.

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Speaker 4: How did that determine? Like your preparation for the combine

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Speaker 5: What was that like?

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Speaker 7: Well, the combine drills? Uh, you know, thank god I

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Speaker 6: Again.

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Speaker 5: It's the worst.

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Speaker 7: It's it's you know, it's not football. You know, it's

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Speaker 7: underwear Olympics.

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Speaker 5: Exactly like it exactly.

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Speaker 7: So you know, you can go out there and you

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Speaker 7: can work on your agility and forty yard dash all

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Speaker 7: you're never going to get that training, that cross training.

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Speaker 7: So I just tried to work on, you know, bettering

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Speaker 8: Uh, just conquer it.

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Speaker 4: I want to take you back to college for a

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Speaker 4: little bit. You come from one of the greatest universities

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Speaker 4: to play football, and Week one, man, it was ready

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Speaker 4: to kick.

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Speaker 5: The boar out that thing. Man, what was that like

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Speaker 5: for you?

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Speaker 4: Because you understand the process and how it is like

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Speaker 4: to build a team and culture whatnot. What was it

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Speaker 7: It's tough, you know, coming out having a big game

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Speaker 7: Week one like that in college because you don't get

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Speaker 7: clue kind of what Kingsy need to work out.

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Speaker 8: As a team. So you know, it looks like they're

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Speaker 7: They're kind of hitting their stride heading into Week four

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Speaker 7: for them, but you know, it's it's tough like that,

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Speaker 7: just coming out the gate and just having a big

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, we've been I was blessed to have

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Speaker 9: some great coaches, I mean Hall of Fame coaches, but

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Speaker 9: Nick Saban it's kind of like Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're at another level.

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Speaker 9: And Nick, man, the consistency he did, it's truly re

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Speaker 9: Mark obviously great recruiter. You, I mean you guys had

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Speaker 6: What is it the one thing?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if there's one thing, but what is

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Speaker 9: it about Nick that makes him so special that gets

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Speaker 7: He was just good at teaching his players to be

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Speaker 7: like we've been there, we've done that, Like we thrive

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Speaker 7: what he built his culture and his process off of. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, hard fourth quarter training, really hard fall camp,

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Speaker 9: Can it be duplicated? And tell me what Mike McDonald

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Speaker 8: So the first part, can it be duplicated?

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Speaker 7: It's kind of hard to now in the current lance

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Speaker 7: nil and transfer portal and whatnot. You know, this was

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Speaker 7: definitely a little bit harder to do that nowadays.

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Speaker 8: But it could still be possible. And uh, what was

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Speaker 6: I just kind of just a transition.

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Speaker 9: I think Mike McDonald's a great coach already in his

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Speaker 9: second year. Just you know what he brings the table,

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Speaker 9: what's different about him and what you know, give me

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Speaker 9: that one thing that really makes him short.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think Coach Mike has a lot

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Speaker 7: in common with Coach Samon. I think they're both kind

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Speaker 7: of hard nosed, defensive style coaches. And I really like

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Speaker 7: how coach Mike doesn't like, we don't take any days off,

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Speaker 7: like we're out there in pads like when other teams

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Speaker 7: in the league are doing this, doing that, Like you know,

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Speaker 7: we're getting our work in and I love that. And

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Speaker 7: you know, him just being personable as a coach is

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Speaker 7: huge too, because as a player, you want to connect

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Speaker 7: having that characteristic, you know, it means a lot.

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Speaker 4: When when I was getting ready for the league, the

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Speaker 4: first thing I kept hearing about was the speed. The speed.

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Speaker 4: The speed is gonna be faster. Now I played football

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Speaker 4: on today, You're just a baby. When USC was one

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Speaker 4: SEC is full of just fast players out there. Was

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Speaker 4: that the biggest difference for you? And what is the

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Speaker 4: difference when it comes to the speed from playing SEC

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the play speed is definitely a lot different. I mean,

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Speaker 7: the SEC is probably the closest you can get to it,

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Speaker 7: but I mean it's still night and day.

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Speaker 8: It's college ball versus pro ball.

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Speaker 7: And the other thing is just you're going against like

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Speaker 7: even you know, we've got some guys on defense and

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Speaker 7: it's just they play so fast and they have all

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Speaker 8: So it's kind of a multi tiered thing.

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Speaker 4: There was your big hit week, kind of like your

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Speaker 4: moments where you realized like, all right, obviously you can

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Speaker 4: do this, but I can take this to another level

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Speaker 4: because obviously you've been doing your job blocking guys and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have those moments sometimes we're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: hell yeah, let's see, let's get this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Definitely a little bit of a wake up call.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, when I came to the league, you were just

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Speaker 6: But when I came to the league, vertical leaps.

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Speaker 9: If you had a thirty six inch vertical leap, you

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Speaker 9: were you were a superior athlete. Forty was unheard of.

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Speaker 9: We had grays Able on a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 9: He's thirty six and a half inch vertical in the combine.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's unbelievable. You're two hundred and seventy pounds combine,

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Speaker 9: you go thirty four inches. So what it means you're

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Speaker 9: an athlete? What other things did you love to do?

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Speaker 9: Did you think football?

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Speaker 6: Was that your sport in growing up or what something else?

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Speaker 8: It was football and swimming for a while there. Yeah, swimming.

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Speaker 7: I swam for like ten years competitively, year round, and

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Speaker 7: it got to a point where I had to choose

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Speaker 7: football or swimming, and I think I chose right.

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Speaker 6: How much were you wayne when you were swimming? That's

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Speaker 7: I mean it was sport, yeah, buck eighty you're ninth grade, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: so that's impressible. So it was just swimming in football,

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Speaker 7: swimming football, A little bit of basketball in there wasn't

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Speaker 6: I think it's the first swimmer we've ever heard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first one ever.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you could say that.

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Speaker 5: Give me that, give me the profile.

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Speaker 7: Could have swim in college, didn't but not like pro

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my dad's been here. He was here last week

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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Speaker 7: I love to golf. Already mentioned that. I love to

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Speaker 7: you know, not too much to chill out, you know,

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 4: I'm a cigar guy myself. Usually when I golf, though,

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Speaker 5: And and I'm dialed in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: What's your what's your favorite club? Favorite club is swinging

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Speaker 8: Gotta go, driver, gotta let it.

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Speaker 5: You're hitting at three hundred. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: But he ain't playing golf out here, at golf out.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, we appreciate your time, man. We're looking forward

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 5: Give it one more time for Robbie. Ooh thank y'all.

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Speaker 4: All right, you guys, don't go anywhere. We got some

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Speaker 5: John, how you doing today?

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Speaker 10: Doing great?

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Speaker 4: We're doing good, man, We're doing good. Getting ready for

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Speaker 6: But talk about that defense right now.

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Speaker 6: It is strange.

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Speaker 9: I mean, so rare nowadays, the guys fifteen years all

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean the guy I think about the guy's

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Speaker 10: the Walter Payton Warrior last year. He should have won it.

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Speaker 10: He is deserving. He's been great in the community since

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Speaker 10: he set foot in New Orleans. He is in New Orleans,

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Speaker 10: and even though when he retires he is going to

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Speaker 10: go back to Arizona, but he's always going to have

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Speaker 10: a place in New Orleans because he's just been such

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Speaker 10: a guy who's been for the city, who's been key

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Speaker 10: to everything, whether it's recovery, whether it's you know, we

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Speaker 10: had a massacre on New Year's Eve here in New

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Speaker 10: Orleans that he was front and center in terms of

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Speaker 10: being able to, you know, step it out and assisting

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Speaker 10: in the process. And so you know, he's just a

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Speaker 10: guy who he's a treasurer. He's a guy who you

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Speaker 10: know when you talk to camp Now, he's a really,

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Speaker 10: really smart guy. He went to cal So you got

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Speaker 10: to hold his attention because he'll he'll talk about he'll

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Speaker 10: be all over the place. But I mean, you put

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Speaker 10: him on that football field and the only thing he

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Speaker 10: understands is going one thousand miles an hour. The only

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Speaker 10: thing he understands all The only thing that matters to

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Speaker 10: him is the end result. He wants to win. And

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Speaker 10: so you know, it doesn't matter what kind of game

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Speaker 10: he has. He wants to look at the scoreboard and

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Speaker 10: see the production there. And so he's just been. You know,

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Speaker 10: when you talk about a guy who you want representing

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Speaker 10: your franchise, he's that guy. He's that guy, and look,

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Speaker 10: he will always be a thing. I don't know if

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Speaker 10: he's I don't know if he's going to get into

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Speaker 10: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He's got, you know,

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Speaker 10: in my I'm biased, I think he's got pull Football

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Speaker 10: Hall of Fame numbers. I don't know if he'll get there,

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Speaker 10: but I think it will be a good debate. But look,

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Speaker 10: he's been. He's been a Hall of Fame New Orleanians.

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Speaker 10: He's been a Hall of Fame New Orleans Saint I

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Speaker 10: know that he's he's been everything a franchise could possibly want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he'll have a great career in broadcasting. What

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Speaker 4: he's done to already a dipping his toe in that.

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Speaker 4: You know, you talked about Spencer Rattler, and I'm happy

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Speaker 4: that he's having the success that he's having. But you

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Speaker 4: did draft a quarterback out of Louisville, h Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 4: Were you surprised that Shuck didn't win the starting job

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Speaker 4: and how far along is he in his development?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I was. I was really surprised because I mean,

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Speaker 10: he had every opportunity to win it. And you know,

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Speaker 10: from all accounts and from everything we saw, Ratler was

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Speaker 10: simply more consistent. He was the consistent performer of practice,

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Speaker 10: preseason games, he had, He had the better even keel

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Speaker 10: all the way across. Now, you don't draft a guy

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Speaker 10: in the second round number forty overall, the highest quarterback

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Speaker 10: that the Saints has drafted since Archie Manning with number

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Speaker 10: two overall in nineteen seventy one. You don't draft that

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Speaker 10: guy to not play. You know, you invest in players

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Speaker 10: in the NFL nowadays. You know you're talking first, second,

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Speaker 10: third round. Those guys are expected to play.

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Speaker 3: So at some.

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Speaker 10: Point you expect that Tyler Shuck will get an opportunity

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Speaker 10: to play. But Spencer Rallery simply held him off. I mean,

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Speaker 10: he's been more consistent. His teammates have a belief in him.

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Speaker 10: He's got some tools. Man, he you know, his physical

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Speaker 10: stature in the whole lot. But I mean he's got

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Speaker 10: a great arm, and he's got a pretty good feel

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Speaker 10: for what he wants to do, and he's got a

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Speaker 10: little bit better command of the offense. You know, he

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Speaker 10: hadn't wanted the starter. He's over to eight right now.

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Speaker 10: But you know, he kind of just you know, he

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Speaker 10: exudes the kind of confidence that you want to see

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Speaker 10: in your quarterback, and so you know, it's gonna be

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Speaker 10: tough to move him out of it because I know,

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Speaker 10: I know the Saints, you know, they hadn't won the

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Speaker 10: first two. They're gonna have another tough two back to

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Speaker 10: back on the road Seattle and then going to Buffalo.

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Speaker 10: But you know, the guys he's held up well, he's

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Speaker 10: seen some things. You know, last year he was thrown

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Speaker 10: to the fire with a makeshift offensive line you know,

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Speaker 10: had you know, I don't know, eight ten starters. It

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Speaker 10: seemed hurt at the same time on that offense, and

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Speaker 10: so you just didn't get a real picture of what

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Speaker 10: Spencer Ratler might be able to do because he was

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Speaker 10: playing with so many spare parts. But this year you're

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Speaker 10: getting a better feel of it, and he looks better.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he looks more comfortable, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be tough to unsee him. You know, he's

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Speaker 10: he's a young quarterback, so he's gonna have some hives

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Speaker 10: and some loaves and it's gonna be interesting to see,

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Speaker 10: you know, whether or not he's gonna be allowed to

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Speaker 10: play through those because I think he can.

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Speaker 4: He is John to say here from New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 4: dot Com. John Man, great conversation. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 10: Man, Hey, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: All right, take care brother, All right.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll give you a high level

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Speaker 4: preview of the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 5: That's next right here on Hawk's Line.

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Speaker 1: Back to more of Hawks Live presented by the Dining

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Speaker 1: District at a Bellevue Collection, broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center, Corey.

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Speaker 1: Here's your host, Michael Bumpus.

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Speaker 5: Along with my guy, Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 4: This is Hawk's Slide, presented by the Dining District at

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Speaker 4: the Bellvy Collection. The show is at seven o'clock every

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Speaker 4: Thursday right here in Stattle Sports seven to ten, broadcasting

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Speaker 4: live from Bellevue Square Center Court. It's time to take

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Speaker 4: a look at these these Saints and this team in general.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: Now, the last couple of weeks, we came into the season,

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Speaker 4: Paul wondering what the offense was going to look like,

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Speaker 4: but understanding what the defense could be. Everyone's talking about

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Speaker 4: this defensive line, the front seven. You got the four

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Speaker 4: down with their hand in the dirt. You got the

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Speaker 4: two to three on that second level. What have you

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Speaker 4: liked the most about the guys in the box?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think we have I mean we may have

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Speaker 9: four or five. I think dominant players. There's no question.

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Speaker 9: You know, Leo Leonard or I was gonna say Leonard

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Speaker 9: Williams didn't sound right, I did. I said, Leo Williams,

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Speaker 9: Leonard Williams, He's dominant. I mean he is flat out dominant.

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Speaker 9: You cannot block him, you can't double team him. And

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Speaker 9: so now what does that mean for the rest of

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Speaker 9: the team. We've known that last year. He's starting to

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Speaker 9: get more pubs. He's just become a man. Well, let's

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Speaker 9: open up for Byron Murphy and we were waiting for

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Speaker 9: Bier Murphy were saying, okay, what what what is it?

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Speaker 9: You know, look, he got one and a half sacks

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Speaker 9: last week, had a tackle for loss. So the stats

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Speaker 9: that pops and you're going, okay, good, Well, how good

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Speaker 9: was it? Well, it's that's pretty good. But the first

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Speaker 9: thing I noticed was in the run game last year,

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Speaker 9: when teams would block down on him or even block

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Speaker 9: out on him.

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Speaker 6: He would get washed. I mean he could he could.

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Speaker 9: Move a gap or a gap and a half over.

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Speaker 9: Now he feels it immediately and he leveraged. Man, there

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Speaker 9: was a play that they tried to block down him.

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Speaker 9: He just stuck his right hand down and he just.

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Speaker 6: The play was over. They didn't move him one inch.

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Speaker 6: So what does that do?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 9: Now, how you know the holes closed down for the linebackers,

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Speaker 9: you know, easy for them to get into those gaps.

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Speaker 9: Now you've got to make decisions for the guard in

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Speaker 9: the center. Okay, do we We got to stay on

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Speaker 9: Murphy because we can't go to the next level. So

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Speaker 9: you get Murphy now playing at that level. Look, Trevor,

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Speaker 9: Lawrence Hall strong men, Mafey still has a great pass

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Speaker 9: rush to him. A chin is working his way back. Man,

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Speaker 9: we're just deep across the where I need mentioned Reid.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's almost like an afterthought now. So it's teams.

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Speaker 9: It's gonna be very difficult for teams to run on

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Speaker 9: us all year.

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Speaker 6: And we're I think we're that good.

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Speaker 9: We're that skilled in the run defense with our linebackers

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Speaker 9: as well. I think, you know, the pass defense is

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Speaker 9: always going to be the one that are we going

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Speaker 9: to hold up in the secondary. I think we will

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Speaker 9: because I think our pass rush is so good and

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Speaker 9: we don't have to do it with more than four guys.

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Speaker 9: The pocket is always collapsing. You go to the forty

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Speaker 9: nine er game, very uncomfortable for you. Go last week.

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Speaker 9: I mean Aaron Rodgers had a great game the first

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Speaker 9: week against the Jets. He was uncomfortable the whole game.

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Speaker 9: I mean he looked like he was forty years old

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Speaker 9: versus us. So that's my long winded answer to say, man,

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Speaker 9: it looks really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like what's going on with with this defensive line.

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Speaker 4: I sent you Nas and the guys a video of

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams picking up a man that is sixty six

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Speaker 4: and fifteen pounds and throwing him to the ground and

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Speaker 4: then getting in the backfield. And then you talk about

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Speaker 4: getting pressure with four of the Hawks blitt the second

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Speaker 4: least in the NFL. Right now, ten percent of the

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Speaker 4: time they are sending pressure that allows you to drop

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Speaker 4: seven and allows your linebackers to flow.

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Speaker 5: And your dbs to make plays on the back end.

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Speaker 4: You don't get those interceptions without pressure from the defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Of Right now, the Hawks are second in the league

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Speaker 4: with four interceptions.

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Speaker 5: It's all connected.

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Speaker 4: Whenever you talk to anyone on the second and third

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Speaker 4: levels and they talk about how they're able to cause

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Speaker 4: these turnovers, it starts with the big boys up front.

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Speaker 9: So I second that, Well, I let's slip into the offense,

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Speaker 9: because I I think we thought we were top five defense.

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Speaker 9: We're playing like it. I mean we were not giving

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Speaker 9: up points. Rather we're making them work really hard. We're

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Speaker 9: giving a good field position for our offense. You know,

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Speaker 9: Sam Donald comes in, you know the first week, I

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Speaker 9: just it was it was very vanilla, right, you know,

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Speaker 9: get rid of the ball quick. I honestly think we

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Speaker 9: overestimated the forty nine ers. I think we gave them

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Speaker 9: too much respect because after watching them again, we should

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Speaker 9: have beat them. I mean against New Orleans, I go,

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Speaker 9: we're a better team than they are. But I thought

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Speaker 9: last week they unleased Sam Donald a little bit. Just

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Speaker 9: just your thoughts overall on the offense.

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Speaker 5: I love the way you played it.

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Speaker 4: I'm almost frustrated for Sam Donald that he had two interceptions.

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Speaker 4: One you got Cooper Cup running it out a little

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Speaker 4: bench route as what I call it.

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Speaker 5: You you go in, you stem up, and then you

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Speaker 5: go out.

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Speaker 4: Just poor ball placement and you're playing against an all

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Speaker 4: pro in Jalen Ramsey. He's going to make that play.

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Speaker 4: The second one was on fourth down. People can question

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Speaker 4: the play call. I would have preferred to run the football,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not mad at the play caff.

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Speaker 5: They think the execution was poor.

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Speaker 4: Your guy too didn't get all of the d lineman

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Speaker 4: he was getting. But two guys a Russian one was

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Speaker 4: free tips the ball. Things like that happened, But after

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Speaker 4: that he just bounced back at no time. Like I'm

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Speaker 4: watching and I'm not throwing shade at Gino, right, but

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Speaker 4: I'm watching Gino on Monday, and there are so many

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Speaker 4: throws where I'm like, oh man, I could be intercepted.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching Sam Donald. Yeah, had two interceptions, but typically

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Speaker 4: he's thrown the ball I think fifty three times, completed

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Speaker 4: sixty seven percent of them. There's not too many throws

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Speaker 4: where I'm clenching something hoping that it's not that it's

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Speaker 4: not going to be intercepted. I think that the reason

658
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Speaker 4: why the game was able to be opened up was

659
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Speaker 4: because they ran the football and they adjusted.

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Speaker 5: I did a game preview today.

661
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Speaker 4: We were sitting there complaining about the outside zone and

662
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Speaker 4: the toss.

663
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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: They I charted eleven plays where they tried to get

665
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Speaker 4: outside forty five.

666
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 5: Yard rushing over four yards per carry a game.

667
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: Of nine, nine, thirteen, and nineteen, and they were stubborn

668
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Speaker 4: with it in that set of the plays, and so

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Speaker 4: it opened everything up. So my long win and answer

670
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Speaker 4: is that I think Sam's doing fine, but you got

671
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: to keep the game the play calls dynamic and be

672
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Speaker 4: stubborn with the run because he works best when he's

673
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Speaker 4: working off the collection. All right, nice quick one for

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Speaker 4: you right there, but we'll we come back. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: to Seahawks Corner Shaquille Griffin.

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Speaker 4: are we doing?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 10: How you thought you doing? I'm doing I'm doing good.

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Speaker 5: We're doing good. Man.

692
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you. You taking your time and welcome back.

693
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Speaker 5: Man.

694
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Speaker 4: When we were doing our off season res search and

695
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Speaker 4: we're looking at the DV room and seeing who's there,

696
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: who's not there, looking kind of thing at times, and

697
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Speaker 4: uh and saw your name floating around. Man, I was

698
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Speaker 4: I was happy that they picked you up.

699
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Speaker 5: What was that? What was that journey?

700
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Speaker 11: Like?

701
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Speaker 5: How'd you make your way back to Seattle?

702
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Speaker 6: Oh?

703
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Speaker 10: Man, I feel like it was something different, you know,

704
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Speaker 10: I was. You know, this time around is a tad

705
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Speaker 10: bit different.

706
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Speaker 11: You know.

707
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Speaker 10: The first time it was with my twin brother, and

708
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Speaker 10: now I have a full family, you know, and three kids,

709
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Speaker 10: so you know, I take everything consideration. It was a

710
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 10: little different this time around. But uh, man, I just

711
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 10: knew I always felt like home here. It only made

712
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Speaker 10: sense for me to come back where all started at. So, uh,

713
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 10: you know, my everybody, the family love it, so you know,

714
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Speaker 10: it makes everything easier to be right home.

715
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Speaker 9: You were always you and your brother were always a

716
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Speaker 9: fan favorite here. But how does that work? I mean,

717
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 9: is John Schneider keeping in contact with you.

718
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Speaker 6: Do they do they call your agent? Do you call them?

719
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Speaker 6: Just how did that whole mechanics work?

720
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Speaker 10: Man? I feel like it's a little bit of both.

721
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 10: I want to think about John has always been in

722
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 10: the parend and uh you know I gave me from

723
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Speaker 10: you know, I feel like it was kind of a

724
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Speaker 10: little brainer. But he definitely has contacts with you know,

725
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 10: my agent of course. But uh man, John has no

726
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 10: problem you know, people on the phone, you know, having

727
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 10: to engage chance to talk a little bit. You know,

728
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 10: sometimes it's just about the family. So there's one thing

729
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Speaker 10: I can appreciate our days.

730
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Speaker 4: Hey do you have the same locker in the in

731
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: the locker room? Did they move you around a little bit? So?

732
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Speaker 10: Uh, So I went to the side where you know

733
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Speaker 10: somebody uh you know Tabby older. You know my locker

734
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Speaker 10: ass Now.

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Speaker 3: You know there's a lot of the young guys.

736
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Speaker 10: I was like, you know what, let me go with

737
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Speaker 10: somebody who's been around. So I said, you know what

738
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 10: put me by uh proved by j Mix. You know

739
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 10: that's somebody who I can kick it with for a while.

740
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 10: You know, he has been around for a little bit.

741
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Speaker 10: We can talk about different things. I was trying to

742
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 10: go around a little my age range a little bit.

743
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Speaker 9: That that must be weird because when you when you

744
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 9: were first heir, I made sure them's still there, Earl's

745
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Speaker 9: still there.

746
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Speaker 6: I get, you know, not that they were old at the.

747
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Speaker 9: Time, but you're you're the young buck, and now you

748
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 9: got nine years in you. Now you're you, you are

749
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Speaker 9: the veteran. What's that like to mentor young guys? And

750
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 9: do you mentor them or you just saying.

751
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Speaker 6: Hey, look ma.

752
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Speaker 10: Of course, most definitely do. I feel like I find

753
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 10: an enjoyment in that, you know, get a chance to

754
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 10: give everything that I you know, can offer, you know,

755
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 10: from my experience, you know, even if it's from film

756
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 10: watching to on the field or things I may see,

757
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 10: you know, I feel like I take pride and get

758
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 10: a chance to see the guy. You guys go out

759
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Speaker 10: there and make plays and you know, man that actually

760
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Speaker 10: you know, you know, fiells me up a little bit.

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Speaker 10: So I appreciate.

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Speaker 5: Me as a as an analyst.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at this for what maybe ten years now,

764
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Speaker 4: I find myself watching film differently than when I did,

765
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Speaker 4: even when I was playing and when I started doing this,

766
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: do you watch film differently, like how do you analyze

767
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: the game now and year nine as opposed to year one,

768
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Speaker 4: two or three.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, all.

770
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Speaker 4: Right, we're having a little difficulties, technical difficulties with Shack.

771
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna call him back and see if we get

772
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Speaker 4: a better reception there.

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Speaker 6: But it's funny because he sounds so much more mature,

774
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 6: so much more.

775
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Speaker 9: You know, he's got kids now, I mean your family,

776
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Speaker 9: he's It's just it's fun to watch these guys when

777
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 9: they get older, and you look, he does a lot

778
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 9: of stuff. I know, we're gonna ask him, you know,

779
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 9: off the field, you know, you know a lot of

780
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 9: stuff with his brother, you know, in the community. But

781
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 9: you know, he was always a favorite. He's still a

782
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 9: good football player. I just wanted to ask. You know,

783
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 9: where he's most comfortable now is more than inside or outside.

784
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 9: You know, you know, you don't have to have top speed,

785
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 9: you know, when you're a smart veteran guy, you know

786
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 9: you know the ropes a little bit better. So, but

787
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 9: it is nice to have a friendly face back in

788
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 9: that secondary.

789
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Speaker 4: I know what he's gonna say, I can play anywhere

790
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 4: or wherever they want.

791
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Speaker 5: Me to play.

792
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Speaker 4: That's what a veteran is gonna say, right wherever you

793
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: need me, that's where they're gonna put me. And it

794
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: must be rewarding for him to you know, he's a veteran,

795
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: he understands his role. Just watching the development of these guys,

796
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: you know, I would assume when you were playing, you know,

797
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 4: watching a young guy developed and maybe doing some things

798
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Speaker 4: that you might have taught him.

799
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Speaker 5: Had to be a little rewarding.

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Speaker 9: It was different back then. That's why I kind of

801
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 9: asked him, I go, look, full disclosure. I wasn't mentoring nobody, nobody.

802
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 5: No tips, nothing.

803
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: I was nice.

804
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 9: I knew the I knew the game right, I knew

805
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 9: the little nuggets that you needed in our defense, and look,

806
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 9: I would help. I didn't wanted to be bad, but

807
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 9: I wasn't giving the golden nugget.

808
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Speaker 6: I will tell you that during the season there was gout.

809
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 9: So when like Nesbie Glasgow, Eugene Robinson, that's that's different.

810
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: But leading up to it.

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Speaker 5: No, not in training camp now squad, No.

812
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Speaker 9: But I think it was less about mentoring. Plus most

813
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 9: of my career I was with guys who were veterans.

814
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 9: We all kind of came together. There's a couple of

815
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 9: younger guys. They were usually corners most of the safe

816
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 9: I mean as Eugene myself, Kenny, I mean.

817
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: Well let's uh, let's hear it here from shaq Shaq.

818
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Speaker 4: Well when we when we let you go or we

819
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: were disconnected. I was asking you if you watch them

820
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: differently now as opposed to when you first started playing.

821
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, most definitely definitely made it a lot easier

822
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 10: for myself. You know, nowadays it's funny. I feel like,

823
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 10: not thinking about early on. I ain't know how to

824
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 10: use that iPad like I know how to use it now,

825
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 10: you know, I could break down to separate the plays

826
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 10: I want through if I just want to watch this

827
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 10: pass and just run. I finally got that figured out

828
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 10: down pack now, but no kind of break it down

829
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Speaker 10: from Mondays to Tuesdays and Wednesdays and different things. I

830
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 10: remember one of the young guys asking me, what's the

831
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 10: first thing I was looking at on a Monday going

832
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 10: into you know, watching a new team, And I said, man,

833
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 10: sometimes you got to go back to the original game

834
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 10: that they just played, and now you want to see

835
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 10: a couple of things about the new receivers or the

836
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 10: things that they like from that game, and then I

837
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 10: see if it follows up from previous games, so kind

838
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 10: of give them the insight of different things to break

839
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 10: it down and you know, make it a lot easier

840
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 10: for yourself.

841
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: That's awesome, man.

842
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 4: And you know you being year nine in the NFL,

843
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: which is a blessing, right.

844
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 5: Not too many people make it to year nine.

845
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: But there's a common theme that I see with guys

846
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: like you who played.

847
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 5: As long as you start giving back, right.

848
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: You got some money in your pocket, you got some

849
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: influence and know some people, and you start doing things

850
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: in the community.

851
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 5: What are you doing off the field?

852
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, right now? You know now that you say

853
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 10: giving back to the community, And we actually open up

854
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 10: a couple of childcare facilities in Florida actually in Texas

855
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 10: as well. But I feel like we got me and

856
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 10: my brother got some real cool things off the field

857
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 10: going on. Were just partner with these guys called Earthbound,

858
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 10: who are helping us start an adaptive brand. Now, so

859
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 10: you know there's an adaptive brand. We know we're trying

860
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 10: to preach inclusivity. You know, if I can do it,

861
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 10: you can do it. If I can wear and you'd

862
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 10: better wear it too. And the brand is actually called you.

863
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 10: You know, you others than us. You know, one thing

864
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 10: about it, We're not just creating adaptive clothing. We are

865
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 10: actually creating adaptive sports products, you know. So the main

866
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 10: thing about we don't want to leave anybody out. We

867
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 10: want to be able to give back and let everybody

868
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 10: know they can be just as equal. It doesn't matter

869
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 10: whatever you want to do, from baseball to golf to tennis.

870
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 10: I go down a line of different things we can do.

871
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 10: But actually got some cool things going on. And I

872
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 10: think the last thing was we got this thing I

873
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 10: might change the NFL forever. Actually, you know, we're partnering

874
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 10: with these guys called umbor Glove, and now that we

875
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 10: are found a way where we can collect data analytics

876
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 10: through the palm of your hand, you know, uh, just

877
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 10: glove that fit specifically to the user. So uh, some

878
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 10: cool things. That's just a little bit of it. But yeah, man,

879
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 10: we've been we've been doing some fun things.

880
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: Tell us more though about those gloves.

881
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 9: I mean, you don't have to maybe share all the

882
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 9: secret sauce, but what kind of cool data do they

883
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 9: get back from from that wearing those gloves?

884
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 10: Oh? So it's it's really to whatever the user needed

885
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 10: to be. So if I used football, for example, it

886
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 10: might be you know, hydration, heart rates, or different things

887
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 10: that monitors fracture or broken fingers, you know, or ligaments,

888
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 10: or it might be catching data analytics on how many

889
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 10: catches or passes or whatever. You know, if someone catch

890
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 10: or drop, you know, it can be a little bit

891
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 10: of anything pertending to what the user needed to be.

892
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 5: Man, that's awesome. I wish I had something like that.

893
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 10: I didn't.

894
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: I didn't drop nothing, though, so I need some different.

895
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 10: It's all right, it's all right, whatever you need. Make

896
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 10: sure I get your child.

897
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: Sure, hit you up now. Well, yeah, what do you

898
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: expecting this week?

899
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: Man?

900
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: You got the Saints. You know they're owing to but

901
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 4: you know how this game goes. You don't sleep on anybody.

902
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 4: What do you see on the Saints?

903
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, man, one thing about it. I know they

904
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 10: got a young quarterback, so I think the main thing

905
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 10: is we're gonna have to put some pressure kind of

906
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 10: makes them make all the decisions.

907
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 6: You know.

908
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 10: They also got some good weapons. They got a lot

909
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 10: of speedy guys over there. So the main thing is,

910
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 10: you know, I really feel like we got a D

911
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 10: line that's unblockable. So one thing about it would probably

912
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 10: get a little aggressive, and you know, let the guys

913
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 10: go out there and hunt a little bit and put

914
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 10: the pressure on the young QB.

915
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: I know a veteran guys' answers.

916
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 9: I'll play wherever they tell me to play, but curiate,

917
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 9: but seriously with what you have now and just your knowledge.

918
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 9: Where you think your best skill set is now? Is

919
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 9: it inside? Outside?

920
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 6: Oh?

921
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 10: I still think it's outside. I know one thing the

922
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 10: way they be able to change it up on the defense,

923
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 10: you know, I feel like inside can also happen. But

924
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 10: I always feel comfortable getting a little aggressive, put hands

925
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 10: on the guys on the outside. I don't think that

926
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 10: part of changed with me.

927
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: Hey, you dbs probably have the most outgoing personalities, man,

928
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: I think you have to be that way with the

929
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: position that you play. What's it like in that in

930
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: that dB room when you guys are installing and watching

931
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: film and breaking things down.

932
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 10: Oh man, it's laid back because one thing about it,

933
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 10: I feel like all these guys are, you know, willing

934
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 10: to learn one thing about it? And hey, I haven't

935
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 10: seen that one person who feels like they know it

936
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 10: all in that in that room. But one thing about

937
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 10: it is still enough with people actually want to be

938
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 10: there and learn. You know, I feel the energy, it

939
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 10: jumps off the table out there. They definitely keep me young.

940
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 10: I finally understand that part. Now, you know, these guys

941
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 10: are truly funny. But end of the day, these guys

942
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 10: work extremely hard. And man, I feel like that that

943
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 10: room fees off each other. You know, everybody truly want

944
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 10: to see everybody succeed in their room. I love that part.

945
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys all all meet with

946
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: the safeties, are you're separate or not? But but I

947
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: gave I gave Tyle Kada invite to the cook out

948
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: the other day.

949
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: Is that valid? Is he invited?

950
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, most definitely right to the guy, Yeah, you

951
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 10: invited Rite.

952
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: Definitely, man, will and we appreciate you talking to you

953
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: man and love sending you out there, mentoring these young

954
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 4: guys and making plays. Give it up one more time,

955
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: you guys forts to.

956
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: Kill Griffin there?

957
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 10: All right?

958
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 5: Brother?

959
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: All right, when we come back, we'll go around the NFL.

960
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 5: That's next right here on Hawks Live.

961
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Is Hawks Live presented by the Dining District. Death of

962
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Bellevue Collection.

963
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: Thrown field over touchdown.

964
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: Hawks broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court.

965
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Buffers, along.

966
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: With my did Paul Moore. This is Hawks Live every Thursday.

967
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: Right here on Seattle Sports seven to ten broadcasts in

968
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: live from Bellevue Square Center Court. A.

969
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: We had dinner today at Fogel Ditch.

970
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: Show and it was amazing. Folk to chow and tie

971
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: kitchen bird Pepper. Too much food, Victor. When you go

972
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: to Fogo to chow, all right, you make sure you eat,

973
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 4: You take a break, and then you eat some more

974
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: because you're gonna leave full man. You're gonna be a

975
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: full man when you leave Foko to chow all right. Yeah,

976
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: flip the car, take your break, take your break, all right. Now,

977
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: it's time to go around the NFL right now, Thursday

978
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: Night football is going down. The Bills are up twenty

979
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: eight to twenty one.

980
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: This is surprise.

981
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: And I thought the Dolphins were just gonna mail it

982
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: in and uh, McDaniel's is.

983
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 5: Gonna be fired by the end of the week.

984
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 4: But you put up a fight like this, Moyer, Yeah,

985
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: you might be saving your job over there.

986
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, it's as we say, it's the NFL

987
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 9: they're good players on both sides. I think what was

988
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 9: ugly for Miami is they were getting blown out and

989
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 9: it looked dysfunctional. Yeah, and look, we know, man, you

990
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 9: can lose a locker very quickly. Yeah, these guys are

991
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 9: they're hard to manage at times, and it takes a

992
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 9: special leader. And I don't know, I don't know if

993
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 9: they're head coach is a special leader. He seems like

994
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 9: they like him. I know he's again get on the board.

995
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 9: He's very bright, but that doesn't always translate to be,

996
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 9: you know, the captain of the ship. So we'll see.

997
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill has you know, a decent night. You know,

998
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 9: he's given me about sixteen points my fantasy team.

999
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm okay. I'm okay.

1000
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 9: You know a year ago I would have said, you know,

1001
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 9: he's got a touchdown in a few catches, but you know,

1002
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 9: sixteen points, you know, it's it's doable.

1003
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 5: That's doable.

1004
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1005
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

1006
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 4: There was a game we were watching closely this weekend

1007
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: and it was our ex Russell Wilson had himself a day,

1008
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: finds some elite neighbors with twenty seconds left to send

1009
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: it into overtime. Uh, well to go up and then

1010
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: Aubrey kicks with a sixty five yard field goal something

1011
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: like that would have been good from seventy to send

1012
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: it into overtime. You're getting overtime and he tosses one

1013
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: up and interception.

1014
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: But do you think he's done enough.

1015
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: So far to keep keep jabbing and keeping Jackson Dart.

1016
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 5: On the bench.

1017
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1018
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 9: I mean, at some point you gotta win. You know,

1019
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 9: I've fallen in your own four to zero and five.

1020
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 9: You might as well bring the young guy in. I

1021
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 9: think the challenge for Russ again is that last game

1022
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 9: everything was heave ho.

1023
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was all deep balls.

1024
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 9: And in the NFL, other than the Cowboys, most teams

1025
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 9: say we're gonna shell you, Russ. That's how it was

1026
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 9: kind of his kryptonite in the past.

1027
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 6: We're gonna, you know, you go ahead.

1028
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 9: And scramble and which not gonna give up the deep

1029
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 9: ball to you because you know, quick games not his friend.

1030
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 9: I thought he looked pretty good though, you know, he's

1031
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 9: just I don't know, I just.

1032
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 12: They gotta win. They gotta win for him to keep

1033
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 12: his job. As simple as that, they gotta win. We

1034
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 12: saw this go to another ex Geno Smith. We all

1035
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 12: watched that game on Monday, and it was tough.

1036
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: Man.

1037
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 4: There was a Gino was like oh for ten or

1038
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 4: oh for twelve with passes beyond ten to twelve yards

1039
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: or something like that. I didn't watch the all twenty two,

1040
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: so I couldn't tell what was happening on the back end.

1041
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: Maybe they showed him up like you mentioned teams would

1042
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: do with Russell. What did you make of gino performance.

1043
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 6: It's one of the worst games I've seen him play.

1044
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 9: Look, he you know, there's a lot of critics on him,

1045
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 9: and you know, some of the critics of the stuff

1046
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 9: that he's not very good at popped up.

1047
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 6: You know, he threw some interceptions.

1048
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 9: He wasn't very good in the red zone, but his

1049
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 9: strength wasn't there, and his strength, the guy's accurate. He's

1050
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 9: an accurate He was the ball spins very nicely off

1051
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 9: his hand, and he couldn't find I mean, he was

1052
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 9: sailing everything in the middle of the field. He just

1053
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 9: couldn't make completions there. He looked, he did not look good.

1054
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 9: And again it's early. Again, we're not trying to throw

1055
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 9: shade on Geno or DK, but as of today, those

1056
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 9: trades looked look very good for the Seahawks because Sam Donald,

1057
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 9: when we were talking about him earlier, and we're going

1058
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 9: to talk about it here in a bit with a

1059
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 9: couple of clips. Sam Donald made two throws in that

1060
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 9: game where I went, oh, that is a brilliant throw.

1061
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 9: The first one was on there. I think it was

1062
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 9: the first third down. We had the JSN and they

1063
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 9: run kind of a text unt. They bring their end

1064
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 9: and they loop him all the way to our center side.

1065
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 9: They knew which way we were sliding. I think we

1066
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 9: had an empty backfield on it and Darnald it's it's

1067
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 9: right in the middle of him, right. He can't he

1068
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 9: can barely see the ball. The receiver make them the

1069
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 9: end route. He gets hit right in the chin and

1070
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 9: he throws it like literally a dart if you were

1071
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 9: playing darts on a dart board.

1072
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 6: He did that.

1073
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 9: He just the ball just spun and it hit chsn

1074
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 9: right in the chest. It was a brilliant throw. And

1075
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 9: then the touchdown to Horton same thing. He gets hit.

1076
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 6: I don't I can't believe they didn't call a penalty

1077
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 6: on that. Yeah, and I'm surprised.

1078
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 9: I'd be shocked that the guy didn't get fined, but

1079
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 9: he took one again right in the chin. He knew

1080
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 9: it was was coming to and he throws another perfect

1081
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 9: bath and they go.

1082
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 6: Another guy was wide open.

1083
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 9: So look as if right now, both those figgures we

1084
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 9: completely shut down DK. We didn't even talk about it,

1085
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 9: completely shut him, didn't But it was I mean, three

1086
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 9: catch for twenty some yards. Yeah, you know that touchdown,

1087
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 9: That to me was you know, that's gnat on us.

1088
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 9: We got to learn we cannot play three yards in

1089
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 9: the end zone. They're going to make a speed cut

1090
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 9: right there on the goal line, and a big man

1091
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 9: like him, you're gonna lose that every time. Three touchdowns,

1092
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 9: very similar plays. We got to make that correction.

1093
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 5: Yep.

1094
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: There are some guys who don't have to play by

1095
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: the rules, or the rules are bended for them a

1096
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: little bit. Yeah, and I'm talking about Tom Brady. My

1097
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: man is a minority owner of the Raiders, and he

1098
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: does broadcasting. This past weekend, he was in the booth

1099
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: with headsets on, and then you get Chip Kelly talking

1100
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 4: about how we can fight and in Tom Brady, we

1101
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: talked to him, and then Pete Carroll says, we talked

1102
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: to him as well, and it just it muddy things

1103
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 4: up a little bit. If it were anyone else, I

1104
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: don't think the NFL would allow that person to be

1105
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: a minority owner and a broadcaster. Some teams are saying

1106
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: that it's a problem, some saying there aren't. My opinion is, look,

1107
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: when you do these production meetings, We've been in those before.

1108
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 4: The team doesn't have to tell you what they don't

1109
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: want to tell you. So if Tom's asking a question

1110
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: about personnel and the scheme and all that good stuff,

1111
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: the team doesn't have to say anything. So me personally,

1112
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't care. It's up to the team if you

1113
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: want to divulge all that information. And maybe weeks down

1114
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: the line you play the Raiders maybe next year, or

1115
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 4: your coordinator somewhere else, and you have that information that's

1116
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 4: on you.

1117
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 5: Doesn't bother me at all. What do you say?

1118
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 9: I think it shouldn't be allowed in his position. And

1119
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 9: let me take you back a few years and Pete

1120
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 9: Carroll brought it up. John Lynch used to pick Pete

1121
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 9: Carroll's brain a ton, and Pete gave him a lot

1122
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 9: of information. And then John and becomes the GM. He's

1123
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 9: no longer in broadcasting and Pete went, huh, not just

1124
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 9: become a GM, but to our arrival in our division.

1125
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 9: And Pete said, if I knew that, I wouldn't have

1126
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 9: divulged some of the things. And I'm paraphrasing a little

1127
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 9: bit on that. I'm thinking the same thing. I go,

1128
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 9: there's no way and the league shouldn't allow it. It's

1129
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 9: a complete conflict of interest. And the other thing is,

1130
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 9: what are we allowing a minority owner in the press

1131
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 9: box with the coaches. I go, I got it. I'm

1132
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 9: a coach now, there's no intimidation to that.

1133
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 6: I to me good on them. Whatever.

1134
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 9: If I'm the commissioner of the NFL, I'm saying there's

1135
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 9: too many conflicts here.

1136
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 6: We don't want it. But I get it. They see

1137
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 6: him in the booth. There's probably good for ratings. Tom Brady,

1138
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 6: he's the man I got, you know, you know I

1139
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 6: got a man crush on him. So I'm good. I

1140
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: love Tom Brady.

1141
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: All right, we will go inside the film room when

1142
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: we come back.

1143
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: Horton's first career touchdown.

1144
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: Kendrick picks off Aaron Rodgers and Ken Walker with a

1145
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: nineteen yard touchdown.

1146
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 5: That's next right here.

1147
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: On Hawk's love back to more of Hawks Live presented

1148
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: by the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection, broadcasting live

1149
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: from Bellevue Square Center Court.

1150
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Bumpis.

1151
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 5: Along with my guy Paul Morier. This is Hawk's live

1152
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: in body.

1153
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: The Dining District got the Bellevue Collection every Thursday at

1154
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 4: seven Bryer here on Seattle Sport seven ten, and we

1155
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: are at BELvue Square, Centre Court. Is time now to

1156
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: go into the film room and break some stuff down.

1157
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: This first play is Tory Horden's first career touchdown.

1158
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 11: Darnald has time, gonna throw it to the near side.

1159
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: He's got a man touchdown Seahawks, and it's the rookie.

1160
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: Tory Horton reaches down, makes the catch, the Seahawks a

1161
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: nine play drive. They pay it off with a twenty

1162
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: one yard touchdown pass to Tory Horton, and the Seahawks

1163
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: are on the board with their first possession.

1164
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 5: Of the game.

1165
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: All right, may you feel very passionately about what you

1166
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 4: saw here. I'm gonna let you go ahead and set

1167
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: this up a man.

1168
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 6: This is all sham Darnald.

1169
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 9: This is a brilliant, brilliant play brilliant, brilliant throw, brilliant

1170
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 9: play we run. I guess I gotta go back and

1171
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 9: describe a little bit here. I was gonna just talk

1172
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 9: about how great it was, and of course I lost it.

1173
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 9: But anyways, we run a basically double cross by our

1174
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 9: two outside wide receivers, Zabel and Charbonnade basically get run

1175
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 9: over by a linebacker.

1176
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: And it's a good thing.

1177
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 9: Zabel got run over by the linebacker because he fell

1178
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 9: backwards and he cut.

1179
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 6: One of the tackles who.

1180
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 9: End up being dropped by one of our linemen who

1181
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 9: would have killed Sam Darnold at that point.

1182
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 6: Sam gets killed on this play.

1183
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 9: Anyways, he actually gets hit right in the chin by

1184
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 9: the linebacker.

1185
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 6: Sam has to make a quick decision.

1186
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 9: And they're running a crossing route for with our wide

1187
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 9: receivers from right to left, and he's tracking him initially,

1188
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 9: but the free safety drops down and takes them. So

1189
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 9: our other wide receiver going left to right, he has

1190
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 9: to go. Is he open and he sees the right

1191
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 9: their left corner right to the offense run with the

1192
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 9: wide receiver not drop him to the safety and he

1193
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 9: flicks it like a dart.

1194
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: I mean, he doesn't step into it.

1195
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 9: He just flicks it with his wrist and he does

1196
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 9: it before burs open and past everybody. He just he

1197
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 9: sensed it. It is a brilliant throw. He takes it

1198
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 9: right in the chest. He gets whiplashed on the play.

1199
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 9: Three guys collapsed on him on this play. I'm gonna

1200
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 9: say it was great protection, but it wasn't last year.

1201
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 6: That was a sack. I promise you was a sacker.

1202
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 6: An interception.

1203
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 9: That makes me feel so good about what we have

1204
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 9: at QB right now.

1205
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's him understanding what he's seeing. Uh sees that

1206
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: safety go down on JSN. I'm sure that was a

1207
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 4: game plan type of thing. All right, we got Jasn

1208
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: going across the field. We're gonna kind of rob him

1209
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: get down there, and like you mentioned, you described it beautiful.

1210
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 4: You got Patrick Queen going right down the a gap.

1211
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: You have Zach Charbonay who's trying to pick him up,

1212
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: doesn't get a good piece of him. Zabel gets us.

1213
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: Abel gets just enough of Queen has slow him down

1214
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: a little bit. But he runs through both and he

1215
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 4: knows he's gonna get hit and he throws the football

1216
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 4: to a spot And I think that is one of

1217
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: the one of the plays that goes unseen and people

1218
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 4: appreciate that he's standing there. Imagine me running at you

1219
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: full speed.

1220
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 5: You know you're gonna get hit.

1221
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna stand in there and still throw a football.

1222
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even have to have pads on.

1223
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 4: I get this bumpy a little bit, and it's gonna

1224
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: deter where you put that full ball.

1225
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 9: But well, I can't believe there wasn't a penalty on

1226
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 9: it because he took a helmet right to his chin.

1227
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 6: You go and watch that thing. It is whiplash.

1228
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 9: His next snaps, his body, you know, folds and he's tough.

1229
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 9: I mean, Sam Darnold, we knew he could make all

1230
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 9: the throws, but that just in that crunch time decision making,

1231
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 9: when you can't teach that you either are guys.

1232
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 6: You're either born with it or you don't. And he

1233
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 6: was born with it.

1234
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: All right.

1235
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: This next play, Darion Kindrick picks off Aaron Rodgers in

1236
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 4: the end zone.

1237
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 11: Rogers will go from the shotgun long count takes the snap,

1238
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 11: looks to the end zone, scrambles left still looking fires

1239
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 11: are shot ball.

1240
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Is intercepted in the end zone. A little tit for

1241
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: tat by the Seahawks defense. They pick off Aaron Rodgers.

1242
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 6: In the end zone.

1243
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: That's a long way from where we're sitting, folks, and

1244
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: it took me a while to see it. But on

1245
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: the interception was Darien Kendrick, the former ram and Seattle

1246
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: gets out of a jam.

1247
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 6: There they are gonna take over.

1248
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: The ball will come out to the twenty.

1249
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: When we come back time out on the field, Seattle

1250
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: is tied with a Steelers fourteen apiece for twelve to

1251
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: play here.

1252
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: In the third quarter on all right, So what I

1253
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 4: see the Steelers in a two y two formation to

1254
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: the left side, which Aaron Rodgers is working. You have

1255
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: and out by the outside receiver in a corner by

1256
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: the slot guy looks to be a tight end. The

1257
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 4: Seahawks looks like look like they're in man coverage. This

1258
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: was a user error by VI. That's Calvin Austen, the

1259
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: receiver who runs the out. So you get pressured by

1260
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: the defensive lineman and Aaron Rodgers has to escape.

1261
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 5: It turns into a scramble drill.

1262
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 4: As a receiver, I have to know what route is

1263
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: on the inside of me. If I'm if I'm Calvin Austin,

1264
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: I know there's a corner running inside of me during

1265
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: the scrambled drill. I cannot turn up because I'm going

1266
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: to turn up and occupy the space that my corner

1267
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: is at. What I would do if I were him,

1268
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: I faked to turn up and come right back down

1269
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 4: to the pylon. I remember looking at Aaron Rodgers after this,

1270
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: and he's yelling at him for doing exactly that, like,

1271
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: why would you go to that space? Would you know

1272
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: what's over there? So he turns up while Aaron Rodgers

1273
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: is scrambling to the left side, trying to fight his

1274
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: tight end in the back of the end zone, and

1275
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 4: because he occupies that space, he hits the ball himself.

1276
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: Ricochet is off the tight end right place, right time

1277
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 4: for Kendrick and Christmas came early.

1278
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot going on here.

1279
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 9: First of our boy Mafey on this rush, oh my goodness,

1280
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 9: I mean he can rush the quarterback. He ends up

1281
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 9: taking an inside move on their left tackle and it

1282
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 9: flushes Aaron Rodgers.

1283
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 6: Right now.

1284
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 9: I think it's Jaron Reid playing left tackle. He scraped

1285
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 9: to the right. We got him running now he's running

1286
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 9: for his life to his left. But Aaron Rodgers is

1287
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 9: one of the few guys in the league who can

1288
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 9: run full speed to his left and still square up and.

1289
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 6: Flick the ball. I don't know if it to make completion.

1290
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 9: The tight end starting to fall a little bit might

1291
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 9: have hit the ground. It would have been a spectacular catch,

1292
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 9: but we wouldn't have got the interception. If the wide

1293
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 9: receiver who by the way, that should have been a penalty. Also,

1294
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 9: he stepped out of bounds, came back into the end

1295
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 9: zone and was the first one to touch it. That

1296
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 9: should have been a flag because you can't be the

1297
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 9: first one to touch the ball if you ran out yourself,

1298
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 9: which he did, right place, right time. But there's a

1299
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 9: lot of good things in that pass rush. The coverage

1300
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 9: is tight. Ernest Jones actually sees Aaron Rodgers scramble and

1301
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 9: he decides to go and close on him too, So

1302
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 9: Aaron didn't have much time he flicked it.

1303
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: I mean he was going to the right spot.

1304
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 9: I don't know if it had been a completion, but

1305
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 9: we wouldn't have had an interception of wouldn't for wide

1306
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 9: receivers trying to be greedy and getting out of the

1307
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 9: getting in the way.

1308
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I coach him up coach, what are.

1309
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 5: You doing, Calvin Austin?

1310
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: All right, this next play, Ken Walker seals the game

1311
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 4: with a nineteen yard touchdown.

1312
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 11: Third and goal from the nineteen Walker now in the backfield,

1313
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 11: JSN wind to the left side of Walker's gonna get

1314
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 11: the toss.

1315
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: He's going left side.

1316
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 8: He's got some blocking.

1317
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 5: He turns up Phillies.

1318
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: Down aside to five touchdown. Sayhawks can't Walker the third.

1319
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: If the Steelers are gonna load up near the line

1320
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, Walker is gonna flank you to the left

1321
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: and run right past you.

1322
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 10: And he does.

1323
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: The Seahawks score again. It is thirty to seventeen.

1324
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 5: All right, what you got more?

1325
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if anybody blocked anybody on this play.

1326
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 9: Sometimes he's just a great running back, makes a great play,

1327
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 9: and this is one of them. And I'm kind of

1328
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 9: kidding because they run a quick toss right. So you've

1329
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 9: got Walker lined up just to the left, just the

1330
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 9: left of Sam Darnold, who's in a gun or you know,

1331
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 9: shotgun formation, and so he just has a quick toss.

1332
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 6: And so we bring our left tackle.

1333
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 9: And we we loop them around and it's it's basically

1334
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 9: a sweep. He does get the guy out there, which

1335
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 9: which opens it up.

1336
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 6: But there's a lot of OLA misses.

1337
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 9: But when you're out in space, you don't have to

1338
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 9: cover everybody. You just got to make them have to move,

1339
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 9: and that's what we got on this. But to me, look,

1340
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 9: ken Walker jumps over somebody. He's got the speed. This

1341
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 9: is what we get with a healthy ken Walker. When

1342
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 9: you get him out in space, you don't have to

1343
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 9: block everybody. With Ken Ken's gonna make people mess and

1344
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 9: he's got the speed to take it to the to

1345
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 9: the house.

1346
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 5: I think Sober makes this thing go.

1347
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: He's lined up in the slot, there's a defensive end

1348
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: right there, and uh, he seals them. He seals them

1349
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 4: so that tackle can loop around and now get out

1350
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: in the space. And if you look at the guards,

1351
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: the guards release clean.

1352
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: And just.

1353
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 4: Sable gets a block. Anthony Bradford makes Queen goes under.

1354
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: JSN misses a block but does enough to make him

1355
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 4: go under, and now the rest is all K nine.

1356
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, sometimes you just get one thousand pounds running

1357
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: down the field and DB's gonna go.

1358
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 5: Out the well.

1359
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 9: You actually made it really good, calm because I made

1360
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 9: it like no one blocked anybody. What they end up

1361
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 9: doing is they didn't want to be blocked, so they

1362
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 9: end up running underneath the block.

1363
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 6: So Bradford was a really good one.

1364
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 9: He didn't get his guy, but he made Queen stop

1365
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 9: go underneath him. Jaya Sen same thing. He was going

1366
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 9: to cut the guy off. The guy didn't want to

1367
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 9: go over the top. He ended up going underney, so

1368
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 9: he couldn't make the play. So you didn't see a

1369
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 9: lot of guys knocking people over. Pittsburgh just took themselves

1370
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 9: out of it. Zabel actually met a guy all the

1371
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 9: way down by the goal line and was the final

1372
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 9: block that that cleared the way.

1373
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 6: But look, man, the bottom.

1374
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 9: Line, when K nine is on and he's healthy and

1375
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 9: he's motivated and we get him out in space, this

1376
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 9: is what you get.

1377
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 6: I mean, he's an electric running back.

1378
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 5: He's one of the best.

1379
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: It is what rookie year, he led the league in

1380
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: explosive plays. And like you said, if he's healthy and

1381
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: he's ready to go, he's a dangerous guy.

1382
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 5: All right, Well me come back, it's time to talk.

1383
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 5: That talk.

1384
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: This is where we throw some topics out there. He

1385
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: says he's right, I say he's wrong, and we talk

1386
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: that out.

1387
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 5: That is next right here on Hawk's Live.

1388
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Buppis and

1389
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

1390
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live on Michael Bumpis with Paul

1391
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 4: Moyer every Thursday. Right here on Seattle Sports, It's time

1392
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: to talk that tall. We're gonna throw some topics out

1393
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 4: there and we'll debate them.

1394
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 5: We might agree, you my disagree. We shall see.

1395
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 4: So this first one, Morier, this defensive line is the

1396
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: best unit on this Seahawks team right now.

1397
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 6: Yes, I'd take a step farther. Okay, I can't prove

1398
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: it yet, but let's just play the year out.

1399
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 9: I think this unit has a chance to be the

1400
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 9: best defensive line in Seahawks history.

1401
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 6: History history. You go back to twenty thirteen. A lot

1402
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 6: of people going to say that line dougan On, they

1403
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 6: were good, they.

1404
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 9: Were deep, They had forty three, forty forty four sacks

1405
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 9: that year. You know, twenty seven, twenty eight, forty three,

1406
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 9: not a lot good defense. You know, shut the run

1407
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 9: game down, played three deep zone.

1408
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 6: You know, you know, eleven guys.

1409
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 9: Who are really good football players. This after two games,

1410
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 9: it's way too early for that. I think Leonard Williams

1411
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 9: right now is the most dominant I gotta go core

1412
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 9: test Candy. But in the last fifteen years he's the

1413
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 9: most dominant defensive lineman we've had. I mean he is

1414
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 9: throwing people, he takes double teams. It's like nothing Byron Murphy.

1415
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 9: Now is starting to become a force, and we knew

1416
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 9: what was going to be at some point. Hoping it

1417
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 9: keeps keeps going. Boy Mafey, we just saw how he rushes.

1418
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 9: I mean, he's a specialist. Now he's a little bit

1419
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 9: like Cliff April at times.

1420
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: He is he he.

1421
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 9: They have to account for him. Derek call is a

1422
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 9: freak strong man.

1423
01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 6: You run.

1424
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 9: They do not want to pull people and try and

1425
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 9: kick him out because he he's Cam Chancellor as a linebacker,

1426
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 9: he levels people. Again, boy mafy, the Hall now you

1427
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 9: helped me with you gotta chinna back as well. And

1428
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 9: then you got Lawrence. Lawrence I didn't know he was

1429
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 9: that good. I mean, so so you have this rotation.

1430
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 9: We're a three four defense, which was different than two

1431
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 9: thirteen Hall mathe.

1432
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 6: I mean again, what Ernest Jones is doing. Night's coming on.

1433
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 9: They have a chance or that dominant against the run

1434
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 9: and the Russian We blitz the least amount in the NFL,

1435
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 9: and we have pressure on the quarterback on almost every step.

1436
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 6: Perty was uncomfortable.

1437
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers looked like he was forty years old again,

1438
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 9: and he looked like he was twenty eight when they

1439
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 9: played the Jets the week before.

1440
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 6: It's got to play out.

1441
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 9: But talent wise, this has a chance to be the

1442
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 9: I think the best unit. And that's saying something because

1443
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 9: there's been some great ones.

1444
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: There have been some great ones.

1445
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: We were breaking down the eighty four or eighty five

1446
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 4: which you were on, which caused how many turnover?

1447
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 9: You say, well, so here's the big one, so two

1448
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 9: thousand excuse me. In nineteen eighty four, it's an NFL record,

1449
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 9: modern day NFL record. It will never be broken. We

1450
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 9: had sixty two or three turnovers that year. The Legion

1451
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 9: of Boom, who gets very sensitive about that when we

1452
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 9: bring up. We think we're better, and I think we

1453
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 9: have the stats to prove it. We just didn't win

1454
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 9: a Super Bowl that year. They had as many turnovers

1455
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 9: as we had interceptions that year, so we had twice

1456
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 9: as many turnovers. In nineteen eighty five, we had sixty

1457
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 9: one sacks. I don't know if they ever had fifty

1458
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 9: during their time. They've never had a lot of sacks.

1459
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 9: That's partly the type of defense they ran. They ran

1460
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 9: a lot of just four guys as well. Russ and

1461
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 9: you know said we got this great secondary in linebackers

1462
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 9: behind will cover. And again you know, comparing eras it's

1463
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 9: you don't do it. They're both great great in the eighties,

1464
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 9: obviously the legion of boom time, fantastic win a Super Bowl,

1465
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 9: had all kinds of point differential records. This one has

1466
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 9: a chance. Now they got to go prove it. I

1467
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 9: can't say it now, but they have a chance. So

1468
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 9: he asked me, are they the best group on his team?

1469
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 6: Yes?

1470
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: All right, So is there a number a stat that

1471
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: they need a hit that will confirm if they're the

1472
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 4: best ever? Or do you feel like it's the eye tests?

1473
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's the eye test. I think points

1474
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 6: allowed is a big one, and that's where the league

1475
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: in a boom went.

1476
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 9: It's hard to argue that because they led the league

1477
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 9: for you know, a couple of years. The least amount

1478
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 9: of points scored, I mean that means something. But that

1479
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 9: also the four years in a row. But it was

1480
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 9: also the offense we ran. We ran the football, so

1481
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 9: we condensed the game. We weren't allowing a lot of possessions,

1482
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 9: you know, so great defense, low amount of possessions. You know,

1483
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 9: you need all of that to work. And Pete had

1484
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 9: a great system back then. So I think points allowed

1485
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 9: is a big one. I think we've got to continue

1486
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 9: to be better on third down, those are big. With

1487
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 9: the pass rush we have, I believe we will be.

1488
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 9: Perty just had a day. Perty had a day. We

1489
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 9: made him uncomfortable, he made plays. I'm hoping we don't

1490
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 9: see a lot of that.

1491
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 4: All right, So you say the best of all time, potentially,

1492
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say no because I don't want to

1493
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: agree with you. Okay, that's all. I'm just gonna say no.

1494
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: But you're probably right. But I'm gonna say no just

1495
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 4: for the sake of argument. And I'm not going to

1496
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 4: back it up with any stats, any stories of the

1497
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 4: eighty five Seahawks under twenty thirteen.

1498
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say you're wrong, Paul.

1499
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 9: I'm okay with being wrong, Okay, I admit it. I

1500
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 9: say I'm sorry quick, and then you know, I get

1501
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 9: right back to it.

1502
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.

1503
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, all right, all right next to you want

1504
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 6: to go next? Yeah, I think so. So I'm gonna

1505
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 6: do that.

1506
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 9: I'm gonna ken Walker proved that he should be the

1507
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 9: number one back and there's a lot of Look, Charbonay

1508
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 9: got a lot of love and preseason from the coaches.

1509
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 9: He went out and proved it in the preseason and

1510
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 9: he looked fantastic. But look, man, I love Sharbon and

1511
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 9: he needs to be there, you know. To me, he's

1512
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 9: a change of pay for us. But for us to

1513
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 9: be the type of team we want to be running

1514
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 9: the football and to be you gotta have explosive plays

1515
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 9: in this league.

1516
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 6: He's that explosive guy.

1517
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna ask you do you

1518
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 9: think he's the number one guy.

1519
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: I was drinking the Charbonnay kool I still have it

1520
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: on the side. They're still sitting there to kool aid.

1521
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: That's still there.

1522
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 11: Uh.

1523
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: But you know, water is more is better for you,

1524
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: you know. And ken Walker was cutting through that D

1525
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: line like water baby. He was smooth with it, explosive

1526
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: like you said. But I think that Mike McDonald is

1527
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 4: going to do what he said. You gotta play the

1528
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: hot hand, and in this league today, it's better that

1529
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: you have a one to two combo. So I think

1530
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: one week ken Walker might get the bulk of the

1531
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 4: carries and be the guy. And I think that some

1532
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 4: weeks Thatch Charvonay might be, but the majority of the

1533
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: carries and the starts are going to go to ken

1534
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 4: Walker because he is the better back. I don't even

1535
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: think he proved that he should be the number one back.

1536
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: I just think that he reminded people that he is

1537
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: the number one back.

1538
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you on that too, because

1539
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 9: one game is just one game. You know, to be great,

1540
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 9: you got to do it multiple games. There's there's a

1541
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 9: lot of great athletes in the NFL. They have a

1542
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 9: great game. Walker's talented. He's one of the most gifted

1543
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 9: running backs out there. And you know, if you we

1544
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 9: find okay this is you know, if it's if it's

1545
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 9: outside jone toss that that's his his play, then that's

1546
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 9: his play. You know hot hand, you know hot week,

1547
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 9: you know, best matchup, best scheme for that defense.

1548
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 6: I'm good with both. We got two really good running backs.

1549
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 9: It's a bummer for fantasy owners because you're trying to

1550
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 9: get to play Walker.

1551
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 6: Did do I play Charbonne? I don't know.

1552
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 9: They're both really good, but I don't think he's proved

1553
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 9: these clear number one. But I think he's on his

1554
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 9: way to do that.

1555
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 4: Right all right, at some point, Jalen Miler will make

1556
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 4: an impact for this offense this year.

1557
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 6: Forever, this year, No, just no.

1558
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 9: Look, I think the tush push and putting him in

1559
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 9: some situations where they go, you know, let's make them

1560
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 9: have to work for something. There's only you're limited in

1561
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 9: time in practice. So if they throw him out there

1562
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden they go, oh, man, we

1563
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 9: got a scheme for an extra blocker in the run

1564
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 9: game now, because he's a running back.

1565
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 6: That's hard.

1566
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 9: I don't have enough guys, and so I've got to

1567
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 9: teach it differently, and I've got to go spend some

1568
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 9: time in the film room and I actually got to

1569
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 9: go rep.

1570
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 6: Itd in practice. So I've just taken some reps away

1571
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 6: from you. So I think we'll see.

1572
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 9: That and it's going to be more of the burden

1573
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 9: on the defense that we're our opposing team we're playing.

1574
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,919
Speaker 6: I think he'll have a play. I think he's electric.

1575
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 9: I think they want to give him just what it's

1576
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 9: like to be an NFL quarterback.

1577
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 6: But I just.

1578
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 9: I'm impressed with Sam Donold right now. No one's unseating

1579
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 9: him this year.

1580
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 5: Now, there's no need.

1581
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 4: You see, the first week he was activating, he was

1582
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 4: actually on the roster. Right now, he's gonna be suited

1583
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 4: up because you're gonna have that three quarterback rule. But

1584
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 4: they gave him a ross spot that first week, allowed

1585
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: him to touch the football once and got him out

1586
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 4: of there. They might have figured something out with aj Barner.

1587
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 4: If you want to run the touch push, you put

1588
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 4: him under center and have him do that. There's no

1589
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: need Jaylen Milroe. You sit back and you learn and

1590
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 4: watch how Sam Donald does this, because it feels like

1591
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: if Sam continues to improve week by week so far

1592
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: like we've seen, he could be the guy. And there's

1593
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 4: no reason or rush Jaylen Milroe to get out there

1594
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 4: in play some football. So no an impact, nah, I

1595
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: think his best impact is going to be getting the

1596
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 4: team ready for the opposition during the week as the

1597
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 4: number three quarterback on scout Sea And.

1598
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 9: I love him, and you know, two years from now,

1599
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 9: we're gonna probably having a very different conversation.

1600
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: Probably all right.

1601
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 4: Make sure you guys get out to Bellevue Collection Dining District.

1602
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: So many great restaurants to choose from. Today we had

1603
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Speaker 4: our pre show meal at Fogo to Child. We have

1604
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 4: the full Brazilian steakhouse experience. Victor, Victor, you're walking away, Victor,

1605
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Speaker 4: Victor's gonna have that experience.

1606
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 5: You're the poster board for Foco to Child.

1607
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: Victor Victors in his own world, he said, I'm just

1608
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: worried about that one hundred dollar GIFTI gift certificate. All right,

1609
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: when we come back, we give you our final thoughts

1610
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: in Keys to Victory.

1611
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 5: Next here on Hawks Line.

1612
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: Back to more of Hawks Live, presented by the Dining

1613
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: District at the Bellevue Collection, broadcasting live from Bellevue Square

1614
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: Center Court.

1615
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Michael Bumpus.

1616
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live and Michael Bumpas with Paul Mourrier.

1617
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: Every Thursday, we are here at bellv Square Center Court.

1618
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 5: My real ones are still here.

1619
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 4: There're no more giveaways, the tickets are gone, and my

1620
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 4: people are still here with us. We appreciate you guys.

1621
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 4: Let's go, especially my girl with the Koog's quarter hip.

1622
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 5: Let's go get it.

1623
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough for us this weekend, but we

1624
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: can always pray. I can't believe you here, we can

1625
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: know why.

1626
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 6: I'll keep it real, keep it talking about how we

1627
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 6: can talk whatever we want. In this last segment, it's

1628
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 6: gonna be tough for us.

1629
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,879
Speaker 5: Man, how tough I mean Vegas guy is a twenty point.

1630
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 4: Underdog only only I'm serious.

1631
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 6: It's gonna you just got demolished by well Man. Who oh,

1632
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 6: North North.

1633
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 4: Texas, North Texas, and you don't know the full story.

1634
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 4: You didn't watch the game, all right, We turned half,

1635
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: we turned the ball over. The offense had touchdown drives

1636
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 4: of twelve, seventeen, nineteen, and twenty.

1637
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 5: Like you put your defense in that position. Is gonna

1638
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 5: be tough.

1639
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 6: You know what you're saying is the offense is going

1640
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 6: to turn it around this week.

1641
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying that we have to pray to the football

1642
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: guys that Coleman doesn't rush for two hundred yards and

1643
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: six touchdowns at halftime whatever, and they got a good

1644
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 4: quarterback and Williams over there. This is the least optimistic guy've.

1645
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 5: Been about the Apple Cup in last like five six years.

1646
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 6: I don't blame you. What do you think the vibe

1647
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 6: is in Pullman right now?

1648
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: I think the vibe is we're realizing that we have

1649
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 4: seventy FCS players on our squad right now, and it's

1650
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: gonna be tough, and we gotta we gotta recruit collective alumni.

1651
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 4: We gotta put money into the program and try to

1652
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 4: grab four or five solid football players on defense next year.

1653
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never seen that many kids from South Dakota

1654
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 6: and North Dakota.

1655
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 9: On a.

1656
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 4: You know, you know what Jimmy did, and I love

1657
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 4: Jimmy he did with the homemies due when you when

1658
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 4: you get out the hood, you bring everybody with you.

1659
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 5: That's what he did. He get out the hood. I

1660
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 5: know everybody with.

1661
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what nook, you know, I mean, I like,

1662
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 9: I like the coops and pull them for him.

1663
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 6: But the Huskis look pretty good. Yeah, I mean, they

1664
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 6: they got a running game.

1665
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,480
Speaker 9: They they got Ohio State after Yeah.

1666
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 4: That's that's what's gonna make it sweet because they may

1667
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: get us, but Ohio State's gonnahoop that.

1668
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 11: You know what.

1669
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 6: Oh so you're saying it don't matter, it does matter,

1670
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 6: Like but next week you're gonna get it.

1671
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 4: It does matter because they're gonna they're gonna feel like

1672
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 4: they're all high and mighty. Benize real quickly. There's another level, Cooks.

1673
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 4: We don't pretend, you know, we know under dogs, but

1674
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: you don't be walking around like they are just the

1675
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: ish in Ohio.

1676
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 5: State's gonna come to Mount Lake.

1677
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 6: Well here's that thing.

1678
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 9: I don't think they're gonna overlook it. I mean, it's

1679
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 9: it's a rival game, but it may not be that.

1680
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 9: But they were Cooks won last year, so you better

1681
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 9: be ready.

1682
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you and I talked a lot of crap last year,

1683
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 4: so they coming from coming from me. I'm gonna turn

1684
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 4: off all my notifications. My ball is gonna be turned off.

1685
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 4: But if we win, you come hang out. If we win, hey,

1686
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna hear at the end of me, I

1687
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 4: might just call you and start talking.

1688
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 9: You can if I tell you what they lose. I

1689
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 9: got I got a little I got a side room

1690
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 9: for you, side room for me. Come, I got your cover.

1691
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: I appreciate it all right. How these guys are gonna

1692
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 4: get it done this weekend?

1693
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 9: Well, we're better. I mean I watched New Orleans. Yep,

1694
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say it's the NFL. They got players, They

1695
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 9: got players, they just don't have enough of them. And

1696
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 9: I watched the forty nine ers game against them, and

1697
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 9: I go, they're just a notch blow us.

1698
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 6: With that being said, they played the forty nine ers tough.

1699
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 6: The forty nine ers without Kittle, they're without Purty, They're

1700
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 6: without a bunch of people.

1701
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 9: This is New Orleans first road game. I think this

1702
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: game will be the first one in probably three or

1703
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 9: four where we won't see the opposing fans dominate the

1704
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:24,440
Speaker 9: visiting sideline.

1705
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 6: It's again, it's atrocious. Nothing we can do about it.

1706
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 9: We now know what it's like when we used to

1707
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 9: travel to other places and go see hawks and be obnoxious.

1708
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 6: And I was obnoxious. I was in New York the

1709
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 6: year we were going went to the.

1710
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 9: Soup Bowl with my son, and I was right in

1711
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 9: the fifty yard line twelve rows back, and I was

1712
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 9: standing up and going see And I mean, I was

1713
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 9: giving it to the giant fans and guess what they

1714
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 9: give it to us now. And so it goes around,

1715
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 9: comes around. But that's not gonna be the case here.

1716
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 9: We're gonna have a great crowd. I think where we

1717
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 9: played got a little bit better last this week. We're

1718
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 9: just a better team. We just we don't turn the

1719
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 9: ball over and do things that are crazy and force

1720
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 9: him to go, you know, to work hard.

1721
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 6: We're going to win this game.

1722
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 4: It's all about establishing that home field advantage again. Our

1723
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 4: producer Nasa Shelby, we do a podcast every two times

1724
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 4: a week, Hot Talk podcast, and he made a hot

1725
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: take today. He said, after this win at home, the

1726
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 4: Seahawks will not lose another home game this year.

1727
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 5: So if they are to do that, that means their

1728
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 5: playoff bound.

1729
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 6: And if they don't do I get start on the

1730
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 6: podcast with you.

1731
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 5: If they don't, we are getting rid of all evidence

1732
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 5: that he ever said.

1733
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 9: Okay, and that's a great thing about podcasts that information

1734
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 9: always goes away.

1735
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: It always goes away. But I think they get this

1736
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 5: done out.

1737
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 4: You gotta get Spencer Rally to throw a couple of interceptions.

1738
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: You've done a great job of that the past couple

1739
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: of weeks, and I think the past game is gonna

1740
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 4: be had. When it comes to Sam Donald, the Saints

1741
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: giving up five touchdown passes this year through the air,

1742
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Speaker 4: that second most in the league. So it's just uh,

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 4: you have to be able to run the football. But

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Speaker 4: I think this might be the week that Sam Darnald,

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01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 4: with the weather being at least decent, goes nuts in

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 4: the pass game and maybe puts up three hundred yards

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Speaker 4: in a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 9: They got, uh, they got that defense attack number ninety

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 9: and briasy, thank you. He He was a problem for

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 9: the forty nine ers last week, which showed again. I

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 9: don't think their their offensive lines that great. They got players.

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 9: I mean, we'll game plan it well, and I feel

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01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 9: pretty good about that a lave I mean Kamara, I

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 9: mean they got some good worried about it.

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Speaker 5: They got some speed.

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Speaker 4: They got some speed that I mean speed always concerns you. Yeah,

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01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 4: is a you know a quarterback can get back there,

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 4: just toss one up after a play action, gets your

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 4: safety looking the wrong way at dB taking a fall

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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: step and uh, and they can go off top and

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Speaker 4: get her done.

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Speaker 6: Do we get Weatherspoon back this week? Game time to decision, Okay, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know yet.

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Speaker 6: It'd be nice.

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Speaker 9: Obviously we played well without him last week, but I

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Speaker 9: like our team better when he's in there.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And Kamara or Kamara excuse me, Camara, I've been staying

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 4: wrong for nine years. I'm just trying to figure it out.

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: Kam nine years in the league. You know that it's

1771
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 4: been nine years he's been in the league.

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Speaker 9: The first time when we lost to them eight years

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Speaker 9: ago here and we thought we were going to beat

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Speaker 9: him up.

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 6: We had good teams still, and they he came in here.

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Speaker 9: I didn't really know who he was, and I want oh,

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 9: and he destroyed us. I mean, we could not tackle

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 9: twenty nineteen. He destroyed us and they were good, and

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 9: I was like, wow, Okay, that's a special player right there. Well,

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 9: you know, nine years he could still be special, but

1781
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 9: it's hard to be super special.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he still got some juice to him.

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01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 4: Has never gone over a thousand yards rushing or passing,

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 4: but has gone over a thousand yards from scrimmage every

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 4: single year he's been in the league. Been close to

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 4: one thousand yards a bunch of times nine hundred something yards.

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: But he's a He is what the modern running back is,

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01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: you know, and we were talking about it earlier. Kamara

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: and McCaffrey are the blueprint of what you want your

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01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 4: running backs to be. You got to be able to

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 4: receive out the backfield and run that rock in between

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Speaker 4: the tackles as well.

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Speaker 5: So it should be it should be a good challenge

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 5: for the Seahawks this week.

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Speaker 4: Take No.

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Speaker 5: One likely and get her done.

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Speaker 4: A special thanks to Robbie, Oots to John deshaz Here

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Speaker 4: and Shaquille Grifford for joining our show. Our board operators

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Speaker 4: Ian Douglas, on site engineer is the lovely Brenta Rogers,

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Speaker 4: Production assistant is Hussin French, and executive producer is Nasa Choby. Well,

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Speaker 4: we have a special shout out our girl, Mariah is

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Speaker 4: leaving us.

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Speaker 5: This is her last show. She's moving on up at Bottlebell.

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 5: There's three floors. She was down in the basement, now

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Speaker 5: she's up to the third floor.

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Speaker 4: She's been honding down live broadcast along with Jessica So

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Speaker 4: so gets some love to Mariah. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 4: the same without you, all right. The seahawksprea game show

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Speaker 4: was live Sunday starting at ten am. Until next time,

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Speaker 4: this has been Hawks Live.

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