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Speaker 1: What is going on? Welcome back to Refresh. This is

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Speaker 1: Jake Koefer and we have an exciting episode because it's

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Speaker 1: October first. So if you're one of the many states

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Speaker 1: that have been sitting on the sidelines and have been

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Speaker 1: watching some of these other earlier opening states, it is

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Speaker 1: your time. This is October first, and the excitement and

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Speaker 1: anticipation is going to build every single week. And we

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Speaker 1: have a great episode with a variety of different guests

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Speaker 1: here that have already killed some really great bucks, filled

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Speaker 1: their dough tags, or one guest that has put together

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Speaker 1: a game plan for October first after many many curve balls.

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Speaker 1: So this week we're going to have Quint Coke from

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Speaker 1: Missouri in Kansas he killed a Kansas Giant, clay Murvar

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Speaker 1: from North Carolina, Josh Telker from Indiana, and Connor Lokar

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Speaker 1: from New Hampshire. So this is the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode of reugh Fresh.

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Speaker 1: Here we go real quick before we get into the

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Speaker 1: episode with the guests, I want to let you know

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Speaker 1: All we got Josh with before the echo on the line,

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Speaker 1: what's going on in your neck of the woods here, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, not a lot, man. We had a nice little

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Speaker 2: cool down come through. It's gonna warm up again here

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Speaker 2: before too long. But uh, yeah, I kind of fighting

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Speaker 2: off some EHD here in southern southern Indiana and uh

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Speaker 2: getting ready for October deer season.

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Speaker 1: Man, Well it's here, this is when this goes live.

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Speaker 1: This is October first, This is the kickoff of fall,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna be hot. And I guess

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Speaker 1: before we get into that and looking at the exact

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Speaker 1: forecast and what your plan is for the next seven days,

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Speaker 1: I think that unfortunately, a lot of people can resonate with,

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Speaker 1: you know, EHD issues. Obviously, Ohio has been kind of

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Speaker 1: the center focus of a lot of these issues. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you're in Indiana and you're you're experiencing some

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Speaker 1: some issues. How how bad is it for you right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So I live in Jackson County, Indiana. It's the second

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Speaker 2: worst county right now in Indiana. At least the last

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Speaker 2: time I looked, it's pretty bad. We you know, it's

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Speaker 2: all each He's always kind of central, you know, or

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Speaker 2: localized to certain areas. But you know, I found multiple

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Speaker 2: dead bucks and some of the properties I've hunted, and uh, Like,

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Speaker 2: someone came up to me the other day in the

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Speaker 2: grocery store and asked me about how you found any

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Speaker 2: dead bucks.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yees.

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Speaker 2: He saw like three kids walking down the road with

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Speaker 2: a bunch of racks in their hands, you know, coming

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Speaker 2: out of a creek. And a buddy of mine that

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Speaker 2: lives in the county east of me, he's found twelve

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Speaker 2: dead ones on his four hundred acre farm. So it's

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Speaker 2: pretty bad locally here, but there's other other places around

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Speaker 2: to hunt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so how does that How does that change your

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Speaker 1: game plan? Obviously, you know, leading up to the season,

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Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this is tentatively my loose plans and

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Speaker 1: then the rug gets pulled out underneath you and are

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Speaker 1: you in a stage of regrouping right now or what

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Speaker 1: is your strategy as we get deeper into the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like the primary I hunt, like where you know,

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Speaker 2: if all things are being equal, is the area I

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Speaker 2: would be that that that's the area that really got

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Speaker 2: hit with with EHD pretty bad. I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 2: I got two cell cameras, it's all I got out

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Speaker 2: this year, and they're on some private pieces that I

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Speaker 2: haven't got a buck on that those cameras for like

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Speaker 2: twelve days now at all, not a one single buck.

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Speaker 2: So it's you know, I have a pretty low standard

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Speaker 1: Leave it alone.

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Speaker 2: But now like I get on those you know, I

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Speaker 2: got got on the Indy end as map of the

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Speaker 2: EHD outlook, and I mean you can tell where it

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Speaker 2: on those maps. And luckily for me, some of them

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Speaker 2: and I just just a matter of going and starting

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Speaker 2: a little bit of me that's excited for this season

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Speaker 1: Some new stuff. Probably do a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of learning this year, and that's always exciting and sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's refreshing. Uh, you know, freshing part of hunting is

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Speaker 1: That's a really positive outlook, uh, because I think it

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Speaker 1: would be easy to follow into the you know, the

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Speaker 2: I'm happy about it, Like I will know one would

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Speaker 2: I'd like to just go hunt with there I know

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Speaker 2: and know where there's some big deer at.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, other plans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you can do. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's out of everyone's control and you just got to

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Speaker 1: a different play. So what does that look like for

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Speaker 2: For me, I like to hunt in the first week

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Speaker 2: of season. I find that I see more you know,

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Speaker 2: daylight movement from mature deer and this is very centralized

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Speaker 2: to where I hunt at and the hills in Indiana

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Speaker 2: is like low areas where we have a uh now

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Speaker 2: and like an area where you're gonna have some white

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Speaker 2: oaks dropping. And those lower areas oftentimes have some water

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Speaker 2: in them, which is something we're lacking this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Uh and that's where all probably focus on the first

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Speaker 2: and I mean I've had I've been successful early season

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Speaker 2: in the cool and shaded areas where's there's some oaks dropping.

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Speaker 1: As far as are you gonna throw a morning hunt

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Speaker 1: your what's the strategy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to hunting mornings at all for me

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Speaker 2: I got something going on with whatever, kids or other

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Speaker 1: But no, I would come out.

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Speaker 2: I would get in there in the mornings early season.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the more you talk to some

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Speaker 2: of guys like talk to John Eberhart the other day,

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Speaker 2: the morning early season, you know, so I, yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: something that I'm not You're not scared to do it, No,

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Speaker 2: not at all. And that's something I want to do

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Speaker 2: more of. It's just right now with young kids and

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, what is it. Let's say you're stuck

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Speaker 1: to an afternoon hunt first week. You know, temperatures are elevated.

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Speaker 1: You're going to go hunt a bottom. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: going to try to find a white oak with some

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Speaker 1: pulling down. There's likely betting nearby, and they're going to

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Speaker 1: come bet on some acorns and drink some water. What

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Speaker 1: is that entry or access point look like? How slow

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Speaker 2: So what I like to do, Like ideally, if I

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Speaker 2: which isn't always tried and true, but or be going

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Speaker 2: little bit about where maybe the bucks are going to

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Speaker 2: be betting up on the points, and then I would come

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Speaker 2: and I will walk around no matter what, I do

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Speaker 2: not want to come down any of those points. One

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Speaker 2: the amount of you know, space that a deer can

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Speaker 2: I'll do everything I can not to come down a

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Speaker 2: I'll a particular one I'm thinking of, maybe I'll go

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Speaker 2: the second ridge where the hub is, and it makes

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Speaker 2: And in an early season, I just feel like they're

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Speaker 2: going to be. Like anytime you can avoid tipping them off,

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Speaker 2: you got to do it. So I'll walk around and

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Speaker 2: then I like when I come in, I like to

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Speaker 2: to stay in that creek. You know, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: deer won't, but a lot of times they're not going

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Speaker 2: to walk down one of those little hub creeks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think they're I don't know if it's uncomfortable to them,

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Speaker 2: But I try to stay in those to keep low,

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Speaker 2: my centin trail, and then I just get into, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, thanks happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I think the key thing there is you're

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Speaker 1: a really important thing is people, you know, map out

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Speaker 2: Right, listen, Like my desire to go is like at

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Speaker 2: had in all this information that I had collected all

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: This year, me going into some areas that are probably

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Speaker 1: You like a six this year on like confident levels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, But as far as just going, I'm

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Speaker 2: a ten right now, dude, I'm ready to be out

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, Josh, good luck the first week

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Speaker 1: and good luck the rest of the season. And I

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Speaker 1: wish you the very best. Thank you for hopping on here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks shake, have a good one man, all right. Next

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Speaker 1: up on the line, we have kind of locar from

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire and Connor. You've had some success, you've already

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Speaker 1: notched a tag. But I'm going to ask you this

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Speaker 1: question about New Hampshire because when I think of white too, Honey,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is not the first one that comes to mind,

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Speaker 1: and probably not even the fifteenth state that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: How many archie deer do you think we're shot in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four or in the state of New Hampshire

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Speaker 3: Going to say four thousand.

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Speaker 1: That's an excellent guess. We did not I did not

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Speaker 1: give him even a range before we started recording. Three thousand,

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Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty deer. We're shot, okay, Yeah, with

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Speaker 1: with archery equipment. Last year in twenty twenty four, twelve

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven total deer harvested in the

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Speaker 1: state of twenty in the year of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: there's eighteen thousand bow hunters and fifty six thousand bow hunters.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at that, there's there's not a

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Or maybe maybe you can tell me differently.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean that's you know, we're not quite Michigan,

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Speaker 5: You know, you know, we're a small state, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's quite as pervasive as some

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Speaker 1: But I know the.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, the bow hunters out here, they hold

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Speaker 5: their spots pretty deer. So I think they're all right

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Speaker 5: with the lack of competition. And I'll say I kind

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Speaker 3: And I knew it was around that.

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Speaker 5: Twelvey mark for twelve or fourteen, so I got just

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Speaker 1: Was my guess. So excellent guess man. Awesome. Well, first off,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on notching tag. You shot a dough very recently.

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Speaker 1: That is often a debate of as the season kicks off,

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Speaker 1: shot motion sequence replenish their venison. What was your strategy

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and get one down to kick off

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 5: Well, for me, it was you know, I basically have

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Speaker 5: the same plan every year, which is chewed a doe

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Speaker 5: as early as I can and then focus on buck hunting.

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Speaker 5: And for those not familiar, we get two archery tags

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Speaker 5: here in New Hampshire, one either sex and then one.

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Speaker 3: Tag that's for bucks only.

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Speaker 5: Some of the southern units you can get supplemental dough

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Speaker 5: only tags too, but I'm just north of that.

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Speaker 3: So my plan every year is just on the either

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Speaker 5: Get a dough, then hunt with for a buck with

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Speaker 5: the and it very rarely actually works out for me

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Speaker 5: as well as it did this year. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I just went classic early season low impact field edge.

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Speaker 5: You know what is what was left of my drought

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Speaker 5: ravaged clover anyway, just waited for them to come out,

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Speaker 5: had some pretty good game intel that they were doing

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Speaker 5: that early. And it was the first Saturday of the season,

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Speaker 5: a few days after the opener, and she came out

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Speaker 5: and didn't go twenty.

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Speaker 3: As they say.

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Speaker 5: So it uh, it was pretty unbentifual, but you know,

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Speaker 3: And so it was perfect too because I was out.

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Speaker 5: I'm out of Venison from last year. I got like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's how you want to start at.

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Speaker 1: How did it feel, because you know when this goes live,

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Speaker 1: Illinois will it's the opening day for Illinois, so I

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Speaker 1: mean you got a head start. You got to start

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Speaker 1: among many states throughout the Midwest. Give us, Give us

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Speaker 1: need to shoot a dough depending on their deer numbers

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Speaker 1: and go through the motions, be full draw, just tell

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Speaker 3: No, I thought so good.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's uh, you know, just being out there

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Speaker 5: saying weather condition like today two weeks later, I probably

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Speaker 5: you kind of you got to take your swings just

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Speaker 5: if it's a low impact stand where you're not going

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Speaker 5: to scrow too much. You know, it's just being out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, So you know it's October one, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like temperatures are are somewhat elevated. What is

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Speaker 1: target bucks. What do you what's going through your mind

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's so we have a September fifteenth opener.

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Speaker 5: So like I feel like looking at some of the

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Speaker 5: lot of guys are in there October well already, even

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Speaker 5: the first or second. So we've been so dry all

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Speaker 5: like either the worst drought on record or close enough

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Speaker 5: around X got it, Vermont got it, we got it,

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Speaker 5: Main got it, and we needed it so bad. But

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Speaker 5: it's brought humidity and heat, and my cams have been

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Speaker 5: pretty much toast and acorns are dropping. So you know,

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Speaker 5: for the first and the second, we've got a cool

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Speaker 5: from I'm not going to call it cold front yet,

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Speaker 5: like I wouldn't want to sit. But first and second,

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Speaker 5: you know, Grouse opens up on the first, Ducks open

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe bank some brownie points.

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Speaker 5: But you know, after these quick cool days here, this

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Speaker 5: So I now that I have the dough, and I

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Speaker 5: good cold front, and I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to do anything stupid on October fourth.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna screw me up if we get a nice

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Speaker 5: cold front on the tenth or twelfth, when those.

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Speaker 3: Pre you know, itches start to tickle in.

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna keep it passive here in the short term.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you magically could burn a vacation day on

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Speaker 1: the first or second and pretend New Hampshire opened on

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Speaker 1: the first rather than the fifteenth of September, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the cool front first day, second day, And so

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Speaker 1: this is more geared towards the state that it is

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: You know Vermont right next door, they're in October first opener,

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Speaker 5: you know New York's October first opener, and they should

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Speaker 3: End of the cold front at least for the first

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Speaker 3: So one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I think, particularly if you've got unpressured deer to take

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Speaker 3: I think you got it because I do.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be genuinely good conditions because

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Speaker 5: I think the deer are going to be pretty bottled

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Speaker 3: Coming out of all this heat.

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Speaker 5: So I think you're going to have a really good

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Speaker 5: want to get kind of frisky and get close to

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Speaker 3: I really think that this this weather's is going to

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick that food source in this hypothetical,

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Speaker 1: what would you key in on specifically in Vermont? Or

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire or New York, or even go back to

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Speaker 1: your roots in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if you ke in, you know, soft Man,

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Speaker 5: we've got some apple trees right now that are dropping,

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Speaker 5: So if you have a lead on that or betting

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Speaker 5: right after dark because like they're they're coming to ours

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00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 5: by the road. Like again, we can't get daylight shot opportunities,

437
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 5: but they're they're coming every night.

438
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 3: So i'd say, soft Mass.

439
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 5: The storm knocked a lot of acorns down, and from

440
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 5: what I understand, the white acorn crop actually looks kind

441
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 5: of decent this year, which is always kind of hit

442
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 5: or miss for us. So if you can get on that,

443
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 5: or you don't keep it simple, I mean, I think

444
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 5: for you know, for me, hunting a water source has

445
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 5: never been something I considered because even in our dry years,

446
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 5: they're still generally water everywhere, but there's just no water

447
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 5: this year.

448
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's we've gotten a.

449
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 5: Couple spots on our property, but it's I helped to

450
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 5: buddy track of dough opening night, and you know, we

451
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 5: look for in a swamp that like normal year, you

452
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 5: probably need hip waiters to go through. We could have

453
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 5: been skipping through there with tennis shoes on. I mean,

454
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 5: it's I've never seen it like this. So so I think,

455
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 5: you know, if you want to do some scouting and

456
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 5: if if you just find an isolated water source, then

457
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 5: it's all tracked up. I mean, like, you know, keep

458
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 5: it simple, stupid, just set up on it, blow your

459
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 5: win where you think it's least likely they're coming from.

460
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 5: But so, I actually think water source targeting is probably

461
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 5: more viable this year in our area than I think

462
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 5: it's ever been, at least in recent years.

463
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: Love it all right, Well, here's the big question. On

464
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: a scale one to ten for the next seven days,

465
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: where are you following this to be in the power

466
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: rankings from one being the worst week of hunting ever

467
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 1: and ten being the absolute best of the season.

468
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 5: For those two cold days to kind of start the

469
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 5: week off, you're October one two, like I'd go a

470
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 5: hard seven.

471
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really.

472
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 5: Pretty darn good early season opportunity, But I think it's

473
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 5: gonna be a hard too about thirty six hours later.

474
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 5: So it's either you know, take your shot and the

475
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 5: day off from work if you got it. Otherwise I'd

476
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 5: I would not be going out of my way this

477
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 5: weekend when the heat's back to screw anything up, you know,

478
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 5: go hunt something else, Go do something.

479
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 3: Else, scout a new spot.

480
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I.

481
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 3: Think you've got a small window here of some high numbers.

482
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 5: But I think you're gonna average out back into the

483
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 5: week and next week pretty poor.

484
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Well wonderful. Yeah, well, good luck the rest of the

485
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: season here, Connor. I appreciate you hopping on way to

486
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: kick off the season. Make sure that you guys have

487
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: venison on the table until hopefully you should altally, absolutely

488
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: really really appreciating good luck the rest of the season.

489
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jake, you too, good luck and thanks for having

490
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: me on all right.

491
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 1: Next up, we have Clay from North Carolina. Clay's already

492
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: had some success this fall, and so a fun little

493
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: fact about the state of North Carolina. There was only

494
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: twenty four thousand deer shot with the bow in the

495
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty fourth season, and the state typical record is

496
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty one and seven eight inches of

497
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: shot in nineteen eighty seven. So just to set the

498
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: stage for the state of North Carolina, I want to

499
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: make sure they're represented here on retfresh clay.

500
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: How's it going, man, I'm doing great. Off to a

501
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 4: good start in the season. Things have been hot down here.

502
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 4: I mean it's been hot and dry. Seems like it's

503
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: been that way most of the country. Right now, we're

504
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: sitting at eighty five degrees here. But I still think

505
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: if you got deers that are on a pattern, beans

506
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: are still green in most parts, acorns are starting to fall.

507
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 4: So with that, if you've got a deer that's showing up,

508
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a good time to be in the woods.

509
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and you've already had some success this year,

510
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: right I have.

511
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: I was able to kill one on opening day off

512
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 4: of our farm, deer that was coming in to beans,

513
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: but he wasn't getting there till a lot later, so

514
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 4: I backed off and went in the timber and actually

515
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 4: kind of tag team that one with one of my buddies.

516
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 4: He was bedding in a big cutover and there were

517
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 4: beans on either side. I was about five hundred yards

518
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 4: in on one side, he was about two hundred yards

519
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: in on the other. And he came out early. I

520
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: mean I shot him about seven pm back in the timber,

521
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: once again, not sitting on top of the beans when

522
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: they're not hitting those till last light.

523
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: Interesting, so you dove in a little bit deeper And

524
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: do you think that is a key element to your

525
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: success there to get him, you know, intercepted once he

526
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: got about a bed in his bed, and I do

527
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: it within shooting light.

528
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot easier to see a bunch

529
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: of deer and maybe on camera get the deer you

530
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: want to see over a bean field or over any

531
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 4: kind of egg field right now. But I mean I

532
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: was able to shoot the deer an hour and a

533
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: half before last light being back in the timber, So

534
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: I think that definitely played in And it was kind

535
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 4: of a gamble, but our access was pretty good, little

536
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: to no wind, and I was in an almost bulletproof

537
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 4: spot for opening day, low pressure area.

538
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: Not many bow hunters where we're hunting.

539
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 4: So we're very calculated down here. We're not going to

540
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: go just blow spots out. But if we think that

541
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: we got an opportunity to go in to kill, we're

542
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: gonna take advantage of that when we could kill them.

543
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So you mentioned, you know, low pressure area and

544
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: also a pretty calculated game plan. Everyone talks about access.

545
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Everyone's very nervous to blow up spots at this time.

546
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of people it's October first,

547
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: and there's seasons just starting. So you had a little

548
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: bit of a head start. Explain what your access looked

549
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: like to have that successful hunt. Did you walk two

550
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: hundred yards one hundred yards and just kind of paint

551
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: that picture so everyone can understand. Yeah, so just.

552
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: Kind of driving down the driveway a little bit further

553
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: than normal. The beanfields right there as you come in,

554
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: and that's where these deer are getting to.

555
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: But they're not getting there till last light.

556
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: I mean, at this point now we're sitting here September

557
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 4: twenty sixth, they're not hitting that until dark.

558
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: So I was able to come in.

559
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: I really only had to walk about two hundred yards

560
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: from the truck down an open oak flat. Acorns at

561
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: that point weren't dropping yet, so I was able to

562
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: get in there, didn't bump any deer. And in a

563
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 4: lot of these spots were hunting because we're back in

564
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: the timber back past where these dough betting areas are.

565
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 4: We're only going to see one or two deer, but

566
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: those deer that we're gonna see are gonna be the

567
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: deer that we're gonna want to kill. So I'm not

568
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: I only saw two deer the night that I went

569
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: out there, but the one was the one in it.

570
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean he came straight from a cutover. Like I said,

571
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: we knew he was betted in that and he was

572
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 4: either going to come out and go right and go

573
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: towards Nathan, or he's gonna come out and go left.

574
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: He came out, came left and had a twenty five

575
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: yard broadside shot.

576
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: And so remind me, are you still able to hunt

577
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: in North Carolina with an archery tag for another buck?

578
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 4: Yes, we're two bucks state. So I mean I'll take

579
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: a back seat now. I got a six year old

580
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: with an itchy trigger finger. Youth Day comes in tomorrow,

581
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: so there's gonna be a lot of kids hitting the woods.

582
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: They're allowed to use rifle for the one day deer

583
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: on youth day. So I'll let him go, maybe try

584
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: to find another deer that we want to target. But yeah,

585
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: we are a two bucks state down here.

586
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Got And so for anyone that's in your neck of

587
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: the woods, October first, your guys, the season has already

588
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: been kind of been rolling. If you had to tell

589
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: someone what's key in on or what to pay really

590
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: close attention to from October first to October seventh, for example,

591
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: what would you if there was one thing, what would

592
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: you tell him to pay attention to for that period.

593
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: So acorns and percimmons are dropping. I was walking through

594
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: the woods earlier today. We had our first rain come

595
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: through in the past probably fifty days.

596
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: It's been dry as can be. Food plots look horrible.

597
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: So if you can get back and the acorns aren't

598
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: loaded this year, like last year, every single white oak

599
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: in the woods was completely full.

600
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: I actually prefer it like this year.

601
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: The trees that have acorns, they're loaded, but it's it's

602
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: few and far between, at least where I'm at. So

603
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: if you could find a good tree that's dropping, or

604
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: if you could find the per simmons, they were falling

605
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: yesterday all over that's where the deer are.

606
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: Going to be.

607
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 4: If you can get there, kind of get back into

608
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: the timber a little bit instead of on those field edges,

609
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: and you got some type of a mass crop that's falling.

610
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: I think that's going to be the money for the

611
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: next week and a half.

612
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: With the start of October first, it looks like, at

613
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: least here in Illinois still going to be pretty warm.

614
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: I assume that's probably gonna be the case for North Carolina.

615
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: How aggressive would you potentially suggest someone to be knowing

616
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: that the temperature is going to be somewhat elevated and

617
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: maybe not as forgiving. I mean, there's a lot of

618
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: touch and go here at this point in the season,

619
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: especially with a lot of people. With it just being

620
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: there opening week here, everyone's excited, they want to be out.

621
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: So what's your thoughts regarding that?

622
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: My thoughts, if it's opening day and you got something

623
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: out there, get in the woods. I mean, I've killed

624
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: a lot of deer on days that weren't good.

625
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: And if you got.

626
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: Something and you have the intel and you think you

627
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: could get in and get out clean, I'd take take

628
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: that advantage and I dive in there. Early bird gets

629
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: the worm, get out there and try to make it

630
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: happen down here. We actually do have a little bit

631
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: I say cold front, but it's gonna go from about

632
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 4: an eighty five degree high this weekend and by the

633
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: end of the middle of the end of next week

634
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: it's gonna be down to about a sixty five degree

635
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: high and lows in the lower fifties. So that's a

636
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: pretty good difference. If I could, i'd be out next

637
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: to next week. I know, I gotta look at the schedule.

638
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: I pitch for coach, pitch for my son. I got

639
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: a flag football team, so I'm busy, but I'm looking

640
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: at those best days and those afternoons I'm gonna be

641
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: in the woods. I'll probably stay out the mornings, like

642
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: I said, tomorrow with youth day, me and my son

643
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: we'll go.

644
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: We'll go into spots.

645
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna see a lot of deer, probably not good deer,

646
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: but we'll see a lot of doze or younger bucks.

647
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of.

648
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: Those management deer. But I would definitely take advantage in

649
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: get in the woods near the later next week.

650
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: What have you seen for just general intel for camera

651
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: activity here this week with elevated temperatures. I mean, have

652
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: you been seeing above average below average buck moving on cameras.

653
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: Most stuff has been after legal shooting light. Now, I

654
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: do have a couple of people that have killed this

655
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: week and it's been the same thing. They are having

656
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: pictures of that deer late in the morning, maybe seven

657
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: or eight o'clock, and they're able to kill them in

658
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: that afternoon because they're not traveling too far. If they're

659
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: on your cameras in daylight in the morning and you

660
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: could get into that spot to hunt in the afternoon.

661
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: I've got two buddies that have success on that same thing,

662
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: and the morning that I killed it was the same.

663
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: He was on two of our cameras late into the morning,

664
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: eight on one, eight thirty on the other, so we

665
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: knew this deer is not far eighty five degree heat,

666
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: they're not traveling too far, they're staying in the shade.

667
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: They're running those creek bottoms. So if you have pretty

668
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: good access and you got a deer that's close by,

669
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: I think I think it's worth going into the woods

670
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: and trying to kill them.

671
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: That's great advice. Honestly, that's great advice for anyone to

672
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: key in on. Now. On a scale one to ten,

673
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: so October one October seven, ten being you feel like

674
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill the biggest deer of your life. One

675
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: being you're not sure if you even really want to go.

676
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Where do you anticipate, Where do you predict next week's

677
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: movement to be?

678
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: Man, I'm giving it. I'm going to be in the

679
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: woods regardless. Like I said, I'm going out. I'm gonna

680
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: give it a six. So it's not great, but it's

681
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: not horrible. We're right there in the middle. I'll give

682
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: it a six. With this little bit of cold coming

683
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: in and the first bit of rain that we've had

684
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: in fifty days, and we're going to have probably three

685
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: days of rain next week, so you're going to be

686
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: seeing some green up in the food plots, probably see

687
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: some more acorns and percimons hitting the ground. You're going

688
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: to see fifteen to twenty degree temp swing. So I

689
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: think a six is pretty solid for October. I'd be

690
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: out there if I had time available.

691
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take off.

692
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: From work, but if you're available to get out there

693
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: in the afternoon, I think.

694
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: It's worth a shot. I love it well. Clay, congratulations

695
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: on kicking off the season with success. Good luck to

696
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: your son this weekend for U season, and good luck

697
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I appreciate you hopping on

698
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: here today, Yes, sir, thank you, Jack. I appreciate it. Guys.

699
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: Here's that one shot on opening day in North Carolina.

700
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: A little over a twenty inch spread, eight inch prow time,

701
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: just over one hundred and forty inches.

702
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: So, man, not much you can ask for to kick

703
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: off the year in North Carolina. Man, there's a lot

704
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: of a lot of people that go the whole season

705
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: and might not see one of those. And you just

706
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: started it off just like that. Yep, yep. We like

707
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I said, we were calculated.

708
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: We're going in there and we're hunting when things are right,

709
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: and we're not being afraid to take a gamble.

710
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: All right. Next up, we are calling from Missouri with

711
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: my good friend Flint. He just killed his personal best

712
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: buck Flint. How does it feel?

713
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: Oh it feels great. It took it took a long time,

714
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 6: but I probably got a real big one.

715
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it starts with the two. Yeah you know that's yeah,

716
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: that's amazing.

717
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I rough scored him at two twenty seven. I

718
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 6: was pretty shocked. But then last night. I compared him

719
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: to a buddy of mine so who killed at two sixteen,

720
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 6: and he had a lot more trash, same frames, so

721
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 6: it should be pretty close. It's up there way more

722
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: than I expected. I was just hoping he'd break two hundred,

723
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 6: and he definitely did that, I think.

724
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, well that's where I felt bad when he

725
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: texted me and I was like, that's got to be

726
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: like in the ballpark at two hundred. And then I

727
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: saw that you posted it was, you know, two twenty

728
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: five plus, and I was like, oh yeah, just incredible, man,

729
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: Well congratulations, tell us the story. What happened.

730
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 6: I buy and so a lot of land. As you know,

731
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 6: I probably flipped maybe fifteen farms a year. Some might

732
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 6: buy and sell some My ten thirty one and a

733
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: bigger pieces. So I'm always watching the market. And I

734
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: got some counties in Kansas I love. I've sold probably

735
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 6: six seven hundred acres in Missouri, I had a big piece.

736
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 6: I've been buying up small pieces out there, just trying

737
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: to get better hunting. Missouri's qualities just keeps going downhill.

738
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 6: So I've been watching Missouri more, trying to buy stuff

739
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 6: on the east side because that's like it's the best

740
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 6: best not off his best area, but it's the best appreciation.

741
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 6: It's closest to us. So I've been watching a peace

742
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: come on mark. It was only seventy one acres, and

743
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 6: I usually stay away from them. I'd like to buy

744
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: eighties or one sixties for the landowner tag reasons, and uh,

745
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 6: it had one picture of one big shed on it

746
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 6: and that was it. No dear history, and it's just

747
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: growed up cattle ground. And I've been buying a lot

748
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 6: of grown up cattle ground and it's it's really good,

749
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 6: Like I think it's like the secret to Kansas right now.

750
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: I bought several places the last couple of years. I've

751
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 6: had a lot of bucks on it. They're just grow

752
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: up cattle ground, just locus cedar trees, brush, that's about it.

753
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 6: So I seen it kind of blew it off. The

754
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 6: price was pretty good, but I blew it off because

755
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 6: it wasn't an eighty. A few months went by and

756
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 6: I've seen the listing again and I thought, well, I'm

757
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: I was just called. I was kind of looking for

758
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 6: some deals. So I called her and she's like, yeah,

759
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 6: they don't have any history. It's just a couple that

760
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: inherited it and they're trying to sell it, and she's

761
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 6: like yeah, and I said, well, it's to deal with

762
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 6: the shed. You know, it looked like a pretty big one.

763
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 6: And he's like, yeah, I found it when I was

764
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: taking pictures. You know, if you like shd hunting, there's

765
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 6: probably more in there. I was like okay, So I said, well,

766
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: i'll be down there next week. I'll swing by and

767
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 6: look at it. So I showed up, looked at it.

768
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 6: That drained all night the night before. The grass was

769
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: all wet. They just pulled the cows out there before,

770
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 6: so it was all tall lespadissa and grass, and I

771
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 6: was soaked, and I was like, yeah, that's okay. You

772
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 6: just really can't tell much like that, you know, when

773
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 6: there's been cattle in there, you got cattle trails, and

774
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 6: you can't really tell what's deer what's not. So and

775
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 6: we kind of I kind of shot her price over

776
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: the phone before I looked at it, and she's like, yeah,

777
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 6: they'll be close to that. I said, well, before we

778
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 6: make a deal, i'll go look at it. So I

779
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 6: looked at it, didn't really do much with it, and

780
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 6: a couple weeks went by she called. She's like, hey,

781
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 6: they'll do your offer, your verbal offer, if you're good.

782
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 6: I said, honestly, I don't know if I want it.

783
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: I said, I'll tell you what I said. I'd buy

784
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: them for hunting. I said, why don't you let me

785
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 6: run a camera on it for a couple of weeks

786
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 6: over corn without even putting a contract on it. If

787
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 6: if they're fine, fat, you know, we'll do that. Like,

788
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 6: I'll do that, but I don't really want to buy

789
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: it and not know what's there. And she's like okay,

790
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 6: and back of mind, Like the only reason I was

791
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: extremely interested was that shit. And I was like, well,

792
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 6: there's a bunch of deer there, you know, it'll be

793
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 6: a nice piece. So I ran out there, threw out

794
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 6: a couple bags of corn, and like the second day

795
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 6: I had that buck on there and it was early.

796
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 6: He was just getting started, but he had like fifteen

797
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 6: points already, just had the main beams and the kickers

798
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 6: are ready. I was like, Oh, he's gonna be nice.

799
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 6: So we got under contract. We kind of went back

800
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 6: and forth again whenever they didn't have all the mental

801
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 6: rights they thought they did, went back and forth, and

802
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 6: we end up just closing like early September, so it

803
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: took all summer finally got it closed. And when we

804
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 6: first made a deal, I said, you know, I'll buy it,

805
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 6: but I want to be able to run corn feeders

806
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: and get a food plot going. And she's like, yeah,

807
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 6: that's fine. You guys do whatever you want. There just

808
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 6: wanting to get rid of it.

809
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: So that's why I did.

810
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 6: And I had them all summer there, and it really

811
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: isn't that hard to kill a big one if you

812
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 6: can just find a big one. So he was there

813
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 6: and I just kept him, kept him fed, and I

814
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 6: got a big food plot in there and for alized

815
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: it good and it's had a bunch of rain and

816
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: so the muzzlim season and my elk tag opened the

817
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 6: same day, the fifteenth, I think. So I had to

818
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 6: decide I was I going to go to South Dakota

819
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: or go to Kansas. So I decided to go to

820
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: South Dakota because I felt like I better kill a

821
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: big bull there before they got killed out.

822
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: So that's why I did.

823
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 6: Went there first morning, put my bull, and loaded the

824
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 6: family up. The next day we dropped down to Kansas

825
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 6: and hunted.

826
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: That night.

827
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 6: I took my son with me, and we had probably

828
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 6: twelve thirteen bucks come out to the feeder, and the

829
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 6: big boy never showed. My son was about to have

830
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 6: a fit. He's six, and he's like, Dad, if you're

831
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: not gonna shooting these nice bucks, let me do it.

832
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: I said, no, we're waiting for a big one. I said,

833
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: I got plenty of one to twenties at the house already,

834
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 6: you know, So we didn't get him. The wind was

835
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 6: gonna switch. And what I did, and it worked really good,

836
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: is I put my blind about two hundred and fifty

837
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 6: yards away from the food plotting feeder. This early season,

838
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 6: the winds always swirled so bad. I always I feel

839
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 6: like I burned me stands out, So I'm like, I'm

840
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 6: just gonna back it up. I had a blind on

841
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 6: a trailer, so I just backed it up and hunted

842
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 6: it and didn't see him but a lot of deer.

843
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 6: So the wind was gonna be out of the west,

844
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 6: which is dead wrong. So I came home for two

845
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: days and then ran back out. The wind was kind

846
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 6: of cheating it, but I kind of set it up

847
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: to where he could hint of south or a north wind.

848
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 6: I know he came out with a much other bucks,

849
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 6: much other bucks come out first. He was climbing back.

850
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 6: It was actually three or four other bucks more mature

851
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 6: than him pushing him off. He come across the food

852
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 6: plot pretty quick, and then he come back out and

853
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: it was probably like a two hundred and twenty five

854
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 6: yard shot. And finally, once the bucks kind of cleared

855
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: out of the way, there fighting and feeding. Once they

856
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 6: cleared out of the way, I shot and couldn't tell

857
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: really what happened to Smoke. I thought i'd seen him

858
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 6: run across with his leg up, but didn't know for sure.

859
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 6: So I got down. It was about dark, look for blood,

860
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 6: couldn't find anything, went back, got a good light, never

861
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 6: found a drop of blood. So I was talking to

862
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 6: a buddy, mind Sam, and he's like, I got a

863
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: guy with a good dog. By the time I was

864
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: talking to him on the phone, and I found one

865
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: speck of blood, and so I hung up with him,

866
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: and I found like three specks and then there's a deer.

867
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: He only went like fifteen yards out of.

868
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: The food plot.

869
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: But so it was it was pretty simple, it's just

870
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: find them. But the interesting part was how I kind

871
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 6: of found the farm and found the deer. Before we

872
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 6: even made a deal on it, which I've seen some

873
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 6: really good deer on listings. You know, if you just

874
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 6: watch in the summertime, not many other people really are,

875
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: and you can find some really good farms early season

876
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 6: like that I found.

877
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, how were you nervous when you? Okay? So you

878
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: have a two hundred and some inch deer in your plot.

879
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: The plant's coming together finally, and it's like it's been

880
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: a dream of yours obviously. I mean that's why you've

881
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: worked so hard to put yourself in a position for

882
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: this opportunity, and you got other mature bucks hanging out

883
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: in there. Were you just cool as cucumber? Because that's

884
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: kind of the impression I'm getting is I'd be shaking

885
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: like a leaf properly. I wasn't.

886
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 6: I wasn't as shook up as you would think, you know,

887
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 6: Like when I was a kid, you know, you always

888
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: dream of this giant buck coming out, and that's what

889
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 6: you hunt your whole life for. I was like, every

890
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: buck would come out, I could see legs and then

891
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 6: antler's and I was shook up on if that was him.

892
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: You know.

893
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 6: Every time a buck would come out, I was like,

894
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 6: is this sim as him and finally he did come out.

895
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 6: So I was more shook up on waiting for which

896
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 6: deer is gonna come out? But once he got out,

897
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 6: you know, like when I got you know what from

898
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 6: my hand. Usually when I'm already shoot, I get pretty yeah,

899
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 6: pretty cold and can just pull a shot off, not

900
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 6: too many problems.

901
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: You know, it was okay, give it, give it. Give

902
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: a piece of advice for someone for staying calm in

903
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: the moment. Is that repetition from over the years or

904
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: do you have a thought process or are you just

905
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: like suck it up and focus.

906
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 6: Yet a lot of killing a lot of deer.

907
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: Probably.

908
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I made a lot of bad shots when

909
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 6: I was younger with the bow by being too shook up,

910
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 6: but just timelessly, I guess time.

911
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Okay, how what were the conditions like the night it

912
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: all came together? You had mentioned, you know, the setup

913
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: worked for like a north and the south. H you

914
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: were somewhat cheating the wind. But where the was that

915
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: somewhat of a cold front or was it just hey,

916
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here because the wind's right and he

917
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: may come out in time.

918
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'd been coming out like every other night and

919
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 6: the day before the night we hunted him, he didn't

920
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 6: show up, and the next night he did, and the

921
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: day before that he didn't. But it was about a

922
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 6: ten degree drop and it'd been like low eighties, high seventies,

923
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 6: and it was down to like low seventies that day

924
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 6: in Lorraine that morning, so everything seemed perfect like he

925
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 6: should show up, man, you know.

926
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: But that's that is that is incredible. Shot a shot,

927
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: a bowl and two the same week, and that is

928
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: that is completely incredible. And obviously I've got to know

929
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: your story more, uh, since we've been connected and record,

930
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, some episodes in the LAMB podcasts. So it's

931
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: so cool to see all this come to fruition with

932
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of hard work to put

933
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: yourself in this opportunity and have that chance. So October

934
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: one is the opening season, opening day for a lot

935
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: of states across the Midwest. Looking from October one to

936
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: October seventh, what would you suggest someone to pay close

937
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: attention to or what have you been able to pick

938
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: up over the years. Are you going to be hunting

939
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: in Missouri? What do you have in the pipeline here?

940
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: Now I'm around to South Dakota, this week and chase

941
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: meal deer. Missouri. There've been deer been hitting the beans

942
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 6: pretty well right now, but they're starting to disappear pretty

943
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: quick back into acorns. So if the weather, you know,

944
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 6: he had a good cold front come through, uh, definitely

945
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 6: get after him. But I don't think i'd burn anything

946
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 6: out if the weather's not good, like right here, we're

947
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 6: getting up hi eighties again, so I think i'd be

948
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 6: pretty careful getting back out there for the white tails.

949
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 6: So I decided to go out through mual deer. They're

950
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 6: pretty easy to find. Them move every morning and evening,

951
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 6: so I'm going to chase them around a little bit.

952
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: I like it, okay. So scale one to ten. What

953
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: do you anticipate October one to Octo over seventh for

954
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: deer activity, mature buck activity? Ten bean you shoot your

955
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: first two hundred, which you already did, or one bean,

956
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really slow.

957
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 6: I would think it's gonna be pretty slow.

958
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: Here.

959
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 6: It's gonna be pretty hot. Uh that first week of

960
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 6: like the middle of September, the first week of season

961
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 6: from Missouri Canvas, that's always pretty good. Like that first

962
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 6: week usually the bucks are moving well still. For me,

963
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 6: it always seems like you know, early October is pretty slow.

964
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 6: Uh the deer just back on acorn so bad in

965
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 6: Missari here do.

966
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: You do you? Have you hunted that first week of October?

967
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: Have you hunted mornings very often? Are you typically hunting

968
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: primarily evenings?

969
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: If you've got one, No, I'm just all evenings. I

970
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 6: mean I've got, you know, like everybody nowadays, twenty cell cameras,

971
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: and they're just not on camera in the mornings, you know,

972
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 6: and I don't want to push it in deep blow

973
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 6: them out, So I always just hunt the evenings. September

974
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 6: and October.

975
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 3: I feel like I like it.

976
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Well, f went congratulations on just like the start of

977
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: a dream season and hopefully you shoot a mule deer

978
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: and keep on rocket man. I really appreciate it. Congratulations

979
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: once again, Thanks Jake.

980
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 6: Have a good luck this season.

981
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: There you guys have it. Hope you enjoyed this week's

982
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: episode of ret Fresh. Get out there and enjoy it.

983
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: It's the season always goes by really fast, so you

984
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: heard it from Connor. If you're able to hunt that

985
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: initial cold front on the first or second it could

986
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: be really good. And if you aren't quite ready or

987
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: you need to get organized. Take this time to get

988
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: all your stuff together, make sure you're ready to rock

989
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: when the first cold front rolls in. Go out there,

990
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: or and maybe just sit and enjoy it and maybe

991
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: try to fill a dough tag. It is here, it's

992
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: October first. I hope you guys have a great first

993
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: week of season if you're one of the many states

994
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: that just opened, and we will see you next week.