1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: M. Welcome to episode Blanco Brown. The first time I 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: met you was at the house where the house Now, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: first I met the house whenever I mean, I mean 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: that seems like ages ago. Man, it went the alone 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: go with time to pay my face to me, that 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: seems like ages ago. So this is how and then 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I want to get under your story. But this how 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: I found you, much like anyone else. I was just 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: on YouTube and it was like videos you may know, 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, this this is interesting. Guys 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: out from a trailer doing a dance. I could probably 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: do that. And so then I watched the video of 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: you and Laney, who, by the way, that video actually 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: brought her an eye to be close. And so I 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: was like Laney, I said, Laney, can you come and 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: teach me how to do this dance? And she goes, 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: I'll just call Blanco. Next thing you know, you're driving 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: up with shooting back at the pool. You pushed me 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: in the pool. We got ten million viewers on ours. 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: You got like a billion on your man and they 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: get up as as blown up. Let me play at 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: it to get up first. Here it isn't you have 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: dance dance this thing? Do you think over five thousand times. 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't even count. You're doing your sleep now. I 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: hadn't done it a lot of times your whole life. 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do it right. Yeah, it ain't 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna ever go nowhere. It's gonna be a part of 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: my journey. You know, you're about the only guy I 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: look at right now and go I relate because I'm 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: traveling like crazy, trying to eat, trying to work. Oh yeah, 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: and I see last night. I saw you Sunday at 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the Titans game singing the national anthem, and then you 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: were doing the dance in the end zone, and then 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: I see you at the World Series last night, and 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: then you're back here tonight. You're you're hitting hard. Man. 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I couldn't turn down them tickets. I 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: was like, this is an experience I've always wanted to 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: go to one, and this is bucket list. What's the 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: last six months been like for you? Uh? Non stop, busy, busy. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't been in Atlanta longer than three 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: days at a time, none stop. And are are you 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: in a mix of so appreciative but also so tired 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: and just going? Man? I can't wait for the holidays. 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: I mean not even that I'm tired, um holidays. I 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: may be working doing a holiday. We're gonna talk about 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things. We'll talk about the album, which 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: it's out. I want to do a little bit about 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: you first. And your real name is where Blanco Brown 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: comes from, because I neither wanted those are in your 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: real life. I also used a pseudonym, so Blanco Brown 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: is from what people used call me ben in Blanco 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: from the Bronx. But I'm from Atlanta. Um, my real 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: name is Benny and Brown. I dedicated Brown to my 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: grandfather who was adopted. UM, and that was our original 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: last name. So that's how you got Blanco Brown. And 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: so you don't want to go by how do you 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: say your name? Benny? Benny Benny Yeah, Amy Amy? Are 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: there two other Benny Amy's ahead of you? Yeah, my 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: granddad and my dad. My granddad passed and so you 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: were like, Benny Amy, that's not a stage name because 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: I didn't use mine. My real name is Bobby. My 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: my real last name is Bobby Est. And I was like, 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: dang name. Yeah, I mean really, people started calling me 64 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: blanco and being calling me blanco for so long that. 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: That's what everybody called me in you know, in Atlanta, 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: l A, New York, it was just Blanco. You grew 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: up in Atlanta, but you have spent a lot of 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: time like in like rural parts of Georgia too, in 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the country. Uh, during the summertime, I would go to 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the country, but the Gioga which is Taylor County, and 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I spent that time with my bunts and cousins and 72 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: family down there and learned the other side of the world. 73 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: And so growing up for you kind of talk to me, 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: talk to me about what it was like growing up 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: at like age ten, eleven, twelve years old. Um man, 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean it was a lot going on in the world. 77 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen so much by then and had been 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: through so much by then. Um, but I think I 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: was a sweet kid. You know, I was real chill. 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: You didn't really know my circumstances. Um, I just didn't 81 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: enjoy life. But even then, there was a lot of 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: rehearsals and uh, singing that talent shows, trying to win 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: some money back and then you know, help mom out. 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean my childhood it's always been about music. 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Let's talking a couple of things. I wanna talking about. 86 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: We'll get to the like the childhood performing because I'm 87 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: interested in that where that all started with you. But 88 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: you talk about your circumstances. Talk about that for a second, 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: because I'm not super familiar with your circumstances, Like what 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: you grew up in. Oh, I mean three bedroom apartment, 91 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: brick walls inside out, no soft landing, hard concrete floors. Um, 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: three families in one three bedroom apartment. It was me, 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: my aunt, my cousins. Uh. I mean my grandmother had 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: my other aunt older, so she was around my age 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: older hunt mother. I mean like it was deep and 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, violence not in the household, but outside the household, 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: like every day. I mean gun shots and fights and 98 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: the better things to be remembered, uh, opening fire fire 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: hydrants and just being in front of the water with 100 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: everybody playing freeze cups. And I was, you know, I 101 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: was the type of person when I got the freeze cup, 102 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: I ain't like to eat it from the top. I 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: turned it on the back on the bottom. That was 104 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: the soft, good, sweet part of the freeze cup. And 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: um man, I mean the lightning bugs, catching the lightning 106 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: bugs playing not not zoom where you go to somebody 107 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: house you're not gonna do and you run um once 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: you through red, Like I mean, like the the goose, 109 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: how didn't go Seek? How didn't go get? I mean 110 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: like that was my childhood and those are the memories 111 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and they're like I mean, just talking about them and 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: thinking about them, it's it's still up a moment in 113 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: the space I would do all over just the way 114 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: it was. It's funny you say that, because I grew 115 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: up a poverty kid too. I'm pretty proud of it 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: because and I say that often. It's funny that you 117 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: say that like I used to. I used to go, 118 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm very resentful that I had to grow up and 119 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: eat a meal a day, hopefully, or I grew up 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: on food stamps or welfare. I used to be really resentful, 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: But as I got older, I started to go, man, 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm so strong from that, and I also know what 123 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: it's like, so I can help other people now, because 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I think there are so few of us that understand 125 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: and can do something about it. And so it sounds 126 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: like as you're telling your story and I'm watching on, oh, 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I get that. I understand that. And when you say 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: you wouldn't change anything about it. I wouldn't either, man, 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: because as we rise, we're able to help others, like 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: others helped us at some point. Yeah, and you talk 131 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: about my grandma raised me, adopt me for a while, 132 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: and so your grandparents are a big part of your life. Um, 133 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: my grandmother's. My granddad was like never really around, and um, 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: as I got older, I could have spent more time 135 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: with him, but I just didn't. And then when he passed, 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: it was the most hurtful thing in the world, and 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I just went back to that moment of Man, I 138 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: could have changed that situation on my own. I don't 139 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: know if he didn't want to be around, if it 140 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: was something that was going on within the family, you 141 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't really know the details 142 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: of it, just know that I've badly seen him. When 143 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: all of you guys are in an apartment, I get 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: that too a little. All my cousins I used to live, 145 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: you just live where you can live, right, Like everybody's 146 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: trying to to to have enough money to pay rent. 147 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got money to pay rents. You all moved together. 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: A bunch of us live in the trailer for a while. 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: A bunch of us an apartment, So like, I get 150 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that and also know me, I was the kid in 151 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: the group that was I'm gonna get out and I'm 152 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: gonna use education like that was my thing. It sounds 153 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: like yours was music. Sound like you were doing music 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: way early. Yeah. Then my first deal and I was seven. 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: You what? Yeah, my first deal when I was seven 156 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: years old? And how did that come about? And how 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: did you get to a place where someone could see 158 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: you at seven to go? I like that, kid, man, 159 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I never really got the answer. 160 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I never asked that question. I just know that we 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: were we're recording and doing records like just like that. 162 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: I just remember who it's seven years old discovers you. Um. 163 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: It was New Star Records guy by the name of 164 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Um. And I don't know if he discovered us, 165 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: if somebody took us to him, you know what I'm saying. 166 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: I really can't remember how it happened. You're seven years old? Yeah, 167 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: I just know we were singing, recording, practicing, going to school. 168 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: Who's we by the way, me and my brothers? Okay, 169 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: so were you guys like in a singing group and 170 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: a group? How many were there called times three because 171 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: it was three of us, all brothers, and it was 172 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: just the X with depostrophe S three. I still got 173 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: the pictures. Now, where were you in the age group 174 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: of the three brothers? Um, I'm in the middle, okay, 175 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: And so you got with the goal of what I know, 176 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: you're only seven. But looking back, were they trying to 177 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: break you guys? As like the JA five? But the 178 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: X the three like what I think more so like 179 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: another bad creation meets some singing brothers because we were 180 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: we were like really singing, like you know what I'm saying. 181 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: But Jackson five, it was that would have been hard 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: to Jason five laden there. Man, they weren't legendary tal 183 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: after they were legendary though, Like they had to even 184 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: start at Yeah, what I'm just saying. Like by time 185 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: we were the eight, they were already like Jackson five 186 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: ABC is a good like another bad creation? All those 187 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: groups were around that time too. We're all you guys 188 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: just singing or you guys doing hip hop stuff too, 189 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: just singing. And I was the rapper in the group, 190 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: so wait where are you rapping? I was like the 191 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the uh, but it's from immature who I was did 192 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: like the sexes talking. I did the sexest talking eight. 193 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, girl, you know all this time 194 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I've been playing around. I mean like, yeah, I've been 195 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: playing with my g I Joe's and POGs Girl, and 196 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about you. I know, I'm nine, man, 197 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: that is hilarious. I know I'm a third grade girl, 198 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: but I'm drinking milk. Yeah. I mean so that's kind 199 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: of how you know, um growing up I was I 200 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: didn't have the confidence to sing, so they would give 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: me the parts where I was more like mellow talking, 202 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of rapping kind of singing. I didn't find my 203 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: singing voice until like fifteen sixteen. So you're fifteen sixty. 204 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Are you still in school? Yeah? Definitely, okayt you graduate 205 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: high school? Ye? Okay. So you're singing all the way 206 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: through high school all the way? Are you known as 207 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: that kid? The singing kid? In high school? Like we're 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: all known as something? I was a nerd. I wasn't 209 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: known as the singer. Okay. So you're singing all the 210 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: way through and as you go through up until about 211 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: twelfth grade at that point, is your biggest break before 212 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: you graduate high school? Uh? I mean we met with 213 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: a guy named Kada Masson Bird. He was over at 214 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Motown and we were about to do a deal. Met 215 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: him at the Intercontinental UH in Buckhead, right by Lenny Small. 216 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: He looked me and my brothers and my mother in 217 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: the face said, y'all don't have no worries, Mama. They've 218 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: benna be able to take care of everything. We're gonna sign. 219 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: We didn't get signed, like two weeks later, found out 220 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: he was no longer with Motown. That was one of 221 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: the moments that was like a huge moment. And then 222 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: do you think he lied to you or do you 223 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: think he got fired in the process of signing you. 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he got fired, if he just 225 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: something happened the way he just left. Um, but I 226 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: just know the deal didn't happen, right And uh after 227 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: that Outcast we were doing a deal with Outcasts, and 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: you know they was you know, uh at that time 229 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: in my life, they was just a dope group. It 230 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: was from Atlanta, like guys from home. Um, and I 231 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: remember me with them, and they wanted to sign my 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: younger brother to a solo deal. So he's gonna do 233 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: a solo deal. And then you know, me and my 234 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: older brothers were like, okay, cool, let's that would be 235 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: fine once she get all the way a way he 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: needed to beat and then he'd bring us home. And 237 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: then that didn't go the way we planned it either, 238 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They send up signing him. Ah, 239 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: he ended up signing to a whole another deal and 240 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: he came out with a song or a few songs. 241 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean when you meet with outcasts, do 242 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you actually meet with Andre and Big Boy like the 243 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: other guys who show up and they're like, all right, 244 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: this is the plan. So they were doing things outside 245 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: about cast away early even before they blew up. They 246 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: were they were purple label and gonna. My dad actually 247 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: just text me that picture like two days ago on 248 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: my phone, like of us in the same room with 249 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: him with our shirts on, taking pictures with him. Yeah, 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: so that didn't work out. You graduate high school? Yeah, 251 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: and what's the plan then for you musically? Because high 252 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: school it's probably big deal to graduate high school? What's 253 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: from me? Well, my whole my whole life. I was told, 254 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, stick to my art. I went to 255 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: school for art. I got a basket of fine arts 256 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and so we're not to college yet though. Yeah. From 257 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: high school to college. Okay, So then you decided to 258 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: go to school where you're gonna go to school? Where 259 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: did you go to school? I went to a I 260 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: U okay? And your thought when you go to college 261 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: is blank, finished college or learn music or make friends? 262 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Like really my thought what college was be the person 263 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: that went to college. And if that don't work out, 264 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: just know that music is always number one either way. 265 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I went down just there's you know, pretty much just 266 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: said I had a degree. And what you study in school? 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: All right? So you study art, but you're doing music. Okay, 268 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: so you studying what does it? What do you just 269 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: study art? Or what does that mean? I mean you 270 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: go through all like art theory and like paintings, like sculptures, 271 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: like the like, not even music, like you're a whole 272 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: different track. Yep, I did. I did all that, like 273 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: sculpturing and websites from dream weave it to mag went 274 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: three D and I do all that so even like 275 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: some digital art stuff too. And then if you were 276 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to have let's just journey off a bit and let's 277 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: say the music stuff, you end up getting an art degree. 278 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: If you were to pursue that. What would you have 279 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: done in art? Oh? Man, you know cartoon network or 280 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: something some voice over us with some animations. I can 281 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: talk just about like anything, and you can. Yeah, let's 282 00:15:53,960 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: just squirrel, just a squirrel, pretty good? That duck one warm? Okay, 283 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: let's do one more. That doesn't That isn't an easy one. 284 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: How about a platypus, because we have no idea what 285 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: a platypus sounds like. I don't know, maybe, but earnestly 286 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: um music was always the forefront, but I didn't have 287 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: confidence to do it. I didn't have the confidence in myself. 288 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to figure out how to be 289 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: a part of it. I started engineering straight out of college. 290 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: I started engineering so like the sound engineering, so for 291 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: if you're listening right now, what that is is you're 292 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: at a computer and you're basically adjusting the levels of everything, 293 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: like to break it down like a five years old. 294 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: So you're you're engineering music. Where do you learn those 295 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: skills to be a music engineer? Uh? One of my 296 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: homies named Darryl showed me how to use the controls, 297 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and I started messing around with it, and then next 298 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: thing you know, I was engineering recording for the Wild 299 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: Gospel compilations and stuff. Uh deep set. So I bet 300 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: self taught. Yeah, your friend just said here, there's the 301 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: kind of how to do it. Then you just took 302 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: it in digit thing. He gave me a um a 303 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: layout template. I started building from that, and then I 304 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: came up my own template and I just started making 305 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: money doing it. So it was just like one of 306 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: those situations. They kind of filling my lap and I 307 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: was just like, Okay, I get to start building relationships 308 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: with people and then hopefully they listened to some of 309 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: my writing one day because I was always writing. You 310 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, note here, note there. I was 311 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: a professional haiku writer. Can't nobody outright me in the 312 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: haiku format. You know what I'm saying? Wait, you got 313 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: you didn't You got paid right of haiku? No? No, no, 314 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: because if there was no money, I know it ain't 315 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: no money. And I'm just saying it was a good 316 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: That was a good start. I got the creative block 317 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: going um and I just built from there. After that, 318 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: I was like vocal reducing for free, but didn't know 319 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: that you can get paid more to vocal reduced. Thank you, 320 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: we're getting paid to engineering, said that all day. Why 321 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: are somebody to tell you what to do and what 322 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: not to do? What's the difference in vocal producing and 323 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: engineering engineering. I'm him buttons, I'm copying page and I'm 324 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: moving stuff vocal reduction. I'm telling the artist what't notes 325 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: to hit, how to take the song to the next level. 326 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: It needs a harmony. Here, go low, here, lead this blank, 327 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's producing. So I found the love and 328 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: that and realize I can get paid more in two hours. 329 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: They're sending in the studio for sixteen now. Just about 330 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: vocal producing. So I said, I was never engineering no more. 331 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: And you were good at it, like you felt like 332 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: you you kind of found your calling vocal producing. Yeah, 333 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I was great at it. So who was one of 334 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: the first artists to come to you and go I'd 335 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: like for you to vocal produce me. And you're like, wow, 336 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually moving up, Like somebody who's got some real 337 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: money on them is actually asking me to help them. Oh, 338 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Christine and Milly, Yeah was the first, like Dippelow like 339 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: that just for those listening to Christian Millian thinks diplop songs. Yeah, yeah, 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Like I was doing her stuff, and then I went 341 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: from her stuff to um, Kiki Palmer. Then I wore 342 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: him dad to like Selina Johnson. And so does words 343 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: start to spread then, like if you work with someone 344 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and and Christie Milian goes, he's great and she chucking 345 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: her producers the producer talking, they're like, you know you 346 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: get shoulda blanco? Is that kind of how your word 347 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: came in? That's how it came in? And then before 348 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: you know it, I was voke reducing Monica and uh, 349 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean different people. Uh Fergie, yeah, Fergie. Uh. I 350 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: did Chris Brown stuff, um, Childish Gumbano and Lloyd like 351 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: different records. All that just came all in one nutshell. 352 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: They came at me fast. Some of the stuff that 353 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: I went vocal reducing, I did the vocal reduction. I 354 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: mean I did the vocal arrangements on them, and they 355 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: were my backgrounds that I was singing for these records 356 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to replace, so they paid me 357 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: and they just put you on the record. So you 358 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: were singing it as an example track, but it was 359 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: so good they said, hey, we're just gonna put this 360 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: on the record. So not only you're producing now you're 361 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: actively on background vocals too, Yeah, by mistake and um Man, 362 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean you can't really guys work. So who did 363 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you work with where you go wow? Like that is 364 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: a special vocalist? I mean plenty of dose. But who 365 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: comes to mind first thing where you you're in a 366 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: studio with them. We just talked about a big list 367 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: of names. He trying to get me in Trouble, No trouble. 368 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a good one where you walk in 369 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: and you're just not bad, but one where it's just 370 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: like oh wow, like your eyes open, because everybody's good 371 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: at the major league level, everybody's good. Man. There's so 372 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: many great vocalists, you know, you know who blew you 373 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: away blackout where you're like wow, it's a lot of 374 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: great ones. Fergie, it was a lot of great ones. Um, 375 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean it still is a lot of great ones. 376 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean from Monica to Ki going Monica that was 377 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: the first one you mentioned, Monica Special. It's a lot 378 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: of special ones, you know. Hey, diplomatic ancer, how did 379 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: you work with Kane Brown? Uh? A producer that I 380 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: met and I was doing some Voger production for some 381 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: other artists that he was working with. Um Kane was 382 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: working with him, and he become the studio every day 383 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: and like he was like, I want this guy to 384 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Voger produce me. I like, what do you do? And 385 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: we got in the studio and I started them are 386 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: records for him by singing them, and he would get 387 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: in the booth and just put this thing on and 388 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: we just built like I mean, it's some records that 389 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: note the world I haven't heard yet. I mean we 390 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: did a good eight nine records. Yeah that he's just 391 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: sitting on right now. Yeah, they just sit there. They 392 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: jamming too. I've heard about people and I talked to 393 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: John Mayor about this where people can see colors when 394 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: they hear music, And even John Mayer said he wasn't 395 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: so advanced, and he's very advanced musically, but he's like, 396 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't I can't see colors. Like I don't have that. 397 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: But do you have that where you can hear colors, 398 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: see colors from music like a certain note? Yeah, definitely, 399 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: I see him colors their shapes. Talk to me about 400 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: that for a second. How does that work? I don't 401 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: know how it worked, but like, if you hear like 402 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: a ge, is that a color to you? I mean, 403 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: it's the melodies that paint the pizzas from me. And 404 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: can you memorize the colors? Yeah, I mean I know 405 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: what what each color makes me feel? Um, And then 406 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: at points it's so sporadic that I see colors, don't 407 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: think about the process, and but I just go with 408 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the art that is presented at the time. And is 409 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: that where the ear came from? You? In the ear? 410 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: The ear the ability to listen down one time to 411 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: a record and tell you exactly what it's missing. And 412 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: they trusted you to listen one time and go, this 413 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: is what I feel, and you had so much success, 414 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: they were like, let's hire of the ear. Hey, you 415 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: know uh, they kind of just put their name on them. 416 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: After doing it so much and being known to listen 417 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: to records and tell you how to take them to 418 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: the next level, it kind of came to get up. 419 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Whenever that that that you kind of stumble into a 420 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: smash because no one ever picks us smack, no one 421 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: ever goes this is for sure gonna be a smash. 422 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Any smash of talk to anybody, it's like, well, I 423 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: remember thinking about it, we recorded it. You kind of 424 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: don't know, you know it starts to pick up and 425 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: you're like, holy crap, can't believe the traction is getting 426 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: So the infancy of the get up, let's let's start back. 427 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: Did you go I think I'm gonna do a song? 428 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Wear they dances? Or did it just kind of come 429 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and phases? Um? I did a song, and I said, 430 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: people gonna love this record. It's gonna bring a lot 431 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: of smiles to people faces. It feels like a two 432 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: dound nineteen two twenty eight can break your heart. To me, 433 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: it can be next level. And I just remember telling 434 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: myself this is special. I put out a one minute 435 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: clip in April on TikTok or just on another platform, 436 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: not even on YouTube. Um and five maiden views first week, 437 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: and then the gas from TikTok. What before we get 438 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: to take it? What? What clip did you put up? Though? 439 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: There was one me dancing in front of the door. Okay, 440 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: so it was visual and it was okay, so it's 441 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: you dancing. The dance was like like the hook or 442 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: do you verse? Okay? So I gonna do the two 443 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: this part here and you're doing the dance in front 444 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: of the door in the house. Yeah, with some basketball shouts. 445 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Song a Western black shirt, a cap and some church socks. 446 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: I was just really messing around um with the dance 447 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: and said, I want to record it because the floor 448 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: kind of feels slippery. Rear Groovy had already came up 449 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: with the dance, but I did the dance and sent 450 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: it to Zach Cat's John Loeban, my homie Jasper Cameraon 451 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: and my brother and it was just like, man, this 452 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: is out of here. Were you surprised to see that 453 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: many people watch that video that first week? Yeah, I 454 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: was shocked. You're just like what, there are a lot 455 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: of videos. How came minds getting five millions? It blew 456 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: upon this guy name DJ Big Shaka page first, and 457 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: he started hearing me like in boss and me keeping 458 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: me updated like on like what it was actually doing, 459 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: the impressions and everything on it. He was like, man, 460 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I never had anything like this many 461 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: views and this demand on my page. And then other 462 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: people started posting my video on their page and they're 463 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: started getting one Magan two million, three million views, and 464 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: by then, I mean before I realized it was on TikTok, 465 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: he had already had like close to sixty million views. 466 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: So it goes over to TikTok was the first big 467 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: TikTok video? Or that kid puts his arms out like 468 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: this he does like that? Is that is that the 469 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: first really big one. It's probably been the first really 470 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: big one that everybody know of. But by time he 471 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: did it, it already had like so many millian views. Um, 472 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: this guy named a journey I saw my video and 473 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: did a dance on TikTok and that your dance. He 474 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: did his own version. He did his own thing, and 475 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: that's the version that Harvard did. They got problem with 476 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: the arms out? Who you later put your video? And 477 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: a Johnny is in my video too? Oh yeah, they 478 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: in it. I got a little a little running note. 479 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: I'll take it, run it. We're good. So when you 480 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: travel and listen, when you travel all the time, that happens, 481 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: you got it. You wash? I wash my hands all 482 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: the like. I am obsessed with hand washing because I'm 483 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: on the road so much that I start like my 484 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: hands are raw from all the washington that I do. 485 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: You got to Yeah, I'm just not a lotioner. I 486 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: don't evenink I owned lotion, Like anywhere in my house 487 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: do I have lotion? I think when I was like eleven. 488 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I want to do it a little back up, and 489 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: you have a big booger in your nose right on it. 490 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: So it's blowing up on TikTok. And it's only TikTok 491 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: sixty seconds fifteen seconds, two versions, which which was blown 492 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: up for your fifteen or sixties. Okay, So they're doing 493 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: fifteen second clubs of TikTok. And this is the infancy 494 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: of TikTok where unless you're like fourteen, you don't even 495 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: have TikTok. Yeah, but that ain't true. Wow, listen, I'm 496 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: on it now. It's uncomfortably a lot of fourteen year olds. 497 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I posted on TikTok. It's 498 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: my favorite platform, by the way, because there's so much 499 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: funny content. But these four year old girls gonna never 500 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: start dancing and shaking there. But I'm like, not next, 501 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: it's like all all kids, okay, most most, I don't know. 502 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of four on TikTok. I don't know 503 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: what section you being good listen. Then there's that four 504 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: you sexually keep sending me those videos. I don't know 505 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: what it says about that. Hey man, When I go 506 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: on TikTok, it's not okay, let me pull out my 507 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: TikTok and let's just see what happens, and let me 508 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: let me pull out my mind. So I'll pull up 509 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: my first How old this girl right here? It would 510 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: be yeah, the first one that pops. I don't follow 511 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: her and so she look what I get? You got 512 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: an old man? He has like ganded off the grade 513 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I have like a fifteen year old girl. All right, 514 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: let me swipe another one. I'll go my turn, swipe. 515 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: This is a how old is this boy? Here? He's 516 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: probably okay, you swipe yours up. Now, let's see what 517 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: you get another adult? I mean, he's alright, My phone 518 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: is not. I don't like the algorithm that my TikTok 519 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: is giving me. Oh everybody that will, Yeah, Wilsmon's funny 520 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: on TikTok. Look at this the hold this girl next 521 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: nuf one about seventeen eighteen. Yeah, well, I don't like 522 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: what mine showing me. I need to have a talk. 523 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: My TikTok's all I never see. Um. I don't like them. 524 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep giving them to me. Yeah, 525 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: it's the algorithm thing, probably, But maybe you've got special 526 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: tiktoks that you No, I ain't got no special TikTok. 527 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: You know, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok. So it does the thing, 528 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: it does the thing of TikTok, and that world it 529 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: blows up. That took it to the next level because 530 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: so many people are on the platform and it's just 531 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: one click, you know you yeah, slap slash slap, keep going, 532 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of people were doing it. Yeah. I 533 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: mean like over three points some million people have done 534 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: the dance just on that platform alone, but across every platform. 535 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: It's Yeah. I was reading and you don't have to 536 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: comment on this that you have made somewhere from about 537 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: a million dollars in YouTube and TikTok out money money 538 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: from the playing your videos about a million dollars. I'm 539 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: saying anything. I'm saying that out loud. That's just what 540 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: it says. Estimated different things from YouTube channel alone ranges 541 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: around one million dollars. I look at that. Good on you. 542 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: I was reading the YouTube comments. I'm saying anything back. 543 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm just saying that out loud. Good 544 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: on you, and on you. I don't know if you 545 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: ever read the YouTube comments. I tend to not but 546 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: that your number one comment is actually super positive. That 547 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: when a guy named Jonathan Baker, he says, this is 548 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: so refreshing to see a dance video without half naked 549 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: women and instead of a dude and a trailer park 550 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: wearing jeans, epic. You're the man. So rare that a 551 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: top YouTube comment will be positive and yours is. And 552 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: I was drawn to it because in the video or 553 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: you're teaching it, which is why watching first, you're standing 554 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: outside because your your friends like a trailer park. You 555 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: guys live by. Oh yeah, he stay right. He used 556 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: to stay right beside it, and his name Cavin, y'all. 557 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: He did like this picture right here. Um he did 558 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: to get up cover. I mean that was that was 559 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: like another thing that wasn't gonna be a cover. We 560 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: was standing in the same trailer park and I took 561 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: a picture on the steps and I looked down like this. 562 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: He said, make that face again. I said, you got it. 563 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: I did like two shots with the sky behind me. 564 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: It became the cover. Um. I went back to his house. 565 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: We was hoping doing some stuff. I said, hey, man, 566 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: I want to shoot a vertical video in front of 567 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: that trailer. It was an abandoned trailer and um, he 568 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: said cool. So we went down there. It was kind 569 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: of sprinkling outside like sprinkling. We pulled out a little generator, shot, 570 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: did two passes. You put oh two paths together and 571 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: uploaded and then boom again. At that point, so many 572 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: of so much to the content and the song is 573 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: blowing up that you have to go, there's something here, like, 574 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: you can't blow up this many times and get this 575 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: it's not luck. After the third time it blows up 576 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: and you have to go, all right, there's something here. 577 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: It was organic, no money behind it, no radio behind it. 578 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: It was straight consumers, people going clicking on the song 579 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: listening to it. I mean, like twenty million plus views 580 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: on that trailer part before then I think it's like 581 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: fifty something now something. It's never actually in the song 582 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: that the words to get up, never a dedicated to 583 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: title to my grandmother. She's come early in the my owner, 584 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: she vasseling on me and my stibiling face, my cousin, 585 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: everybody that was in the house in a loving manner, 586 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: though you know what I'm saying, and and say get up. 587 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: That just meant being vertical with the world of finding purpose, 588 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: finding joy, finding happiness. Um, you couldn't do that laying down, 589 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: and she meant that both grandmothers. Was there ever a 590 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: title of the song before they get Up? Yeah? We 591 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: was there a working title? Yeah, Um, I actually look 592 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: like I guess, let me guess Cowboy Buggie. Nope, too, 593 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: Now I can't be two steps because cow that's bad. 594 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: Hold down, hold down. It had then to do with 595 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: the song, ain't I ain't the title of the session 596 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: God's Gift, and that was gonna be the the working 597 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: name of the song. Yeah, that was never the name 598 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: of the song. It was just when I created it, it 599 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: it felt like there was God's gift to me, and 600 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: that's the original title of the session. I have it. 601 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: I have it on my laptop like right now. So 602 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: the get up starts to blow up? And what what's 603 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: like the big first crazy call you God where it's like, Wow, 604 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: I get to go do this now? Oh the c 605 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: m A fest I dreamed the performer there the year before. 606 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't even know it, but I 607 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: had already done my deal with Broken Bowl Records and 608 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: BMG a year prior to me putting out a one 609 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: minute video clip. So they get Up didn't get you 610 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: a deal. You had already signed talked, worked out a 611 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: deal with the record. I didn't know that I signed 612 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: the deal, uh eighteen and uh mayor June and the 613 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: get Up I wrote September two thousand eighteen. When you 614 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: sent it off to John Loebo, for example, what's his 615 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: response back? It was like, man, this right here is impressive. 616 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: That is strong, you know, John, that's that is strong. 617 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: And then you go out and you have to do 618 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: radio tour. Yep, Well set out the radio tour two 619 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and a half, three months after the song had already 620 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: been out. It had already done what it was doing, 621 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: and then um decided to take it to radio. But 622 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: you you have pop stations playing you, you have country 623 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: stations playing your little bit. Were they like, oh, we 624 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of don't know what to do with it, so 625 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna let everybody go with it. Like what was 626 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: the plan? Oh? I don't I really don't even know. 627 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, I really don't know. Grandma would taught 628 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: me and my mama. See I don't say my mama 629 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: a lot, but she taught me a whole bunch. I 630 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: used to saying my grandmother. But look, if you don't 631 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: know what to say, just don't say nothing, because I 632 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know the process of that. UM. When they decided 633 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: to pisit to the radio, I just went on the 634 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: radio tour, and I told them that I wanted to 635 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: go on the radio tour and I wanted to be 636 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: and the people faces and getting to meet them and 637 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: greet them, and and that was like priority to me 638 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: to go on the radio tour. So John said, let's 639 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: make it happen. Where's the weirdest place you did the dance? 640 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Not even radio touris in general because you've done it. 641 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I see like on local news. I see you at 642 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: zoos yell. I just did it yesterday at the uh 643 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: the World Series game during the ninth ending and somebody 644 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: was getting struck out. I was just in the middle 645 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: of the out doing a dance. Cooler celebrity you've seen 646 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: do the dance. I mean it's a it's a lot 647 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: of people. Name one. I can't even don't start with 648 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Monica again, No, I can't even one celebrity ain't seen 649 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: how do the dance? No, but one name one celebrity 650 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: is seen to the dance. So it's pretty cool, man. 651 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: It's it's the one of the one of the one 652 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: that took me out was Howie Howie? Who's Howie? You 653 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: don't know? How We? How We? How are the duck? 654 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: How are we? From back Street Boys? How We? Who's 655 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: how We? I'm gonna let you figure it out. Who 656 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: took you out? I'm saying that. That made me like, laugh, Mike, 657 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: do you how he is? Howie Mandel? Howie Mandel? Okay? Okay? 658 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Would have been my fourth how we pack? You just 659 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: said how we like I don't look he go out 660 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: at the first one. I was just like, I'm I'm 661 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna play a little game and let you 662 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: guess this one since you don't want to say Monica again. 663 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: It was Howie Okay. Um, you've been all over the 664 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: world language barriers with the song weird or now uh. 665 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: I haven't had any issues there. I see people just 666 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: enjoying it, laughing, enjoying themselves and funny accents. I'm going 667 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: to do the two staff bad. I'm trying to think, 668 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: if you know what, let me let me do something 669 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: right quick. But as you look at up, I'm gonna 670 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: do something here. So the album is called Honeysuck on 671 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: Lightning Bugs obviously, to get Up. Here's some of Georgia 672 00:38:50,840 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: power right here. Thank God, Yeah, yeah yeah. Any miny 673 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: miny miny miny mode. I'll never ever ever let it 674 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: take my soul. Any miny miny miny miny mode. I 675 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: don't ain't, dude. I don't see any many many miny 676 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: miny mode. Everything that the world a little bit of 677 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: let's tennessee whiskey. Tell me not say you're are glass 678 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: of shipping and understand, I see game. Tell me what 679 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: about to do? And here is a little bit of 680 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: temporary insanity from the record I feel so cold. You 681 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: look out for this one. Players. You love this one, man, 682 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like that was one of those 683 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: records like to get Up. I wrote it right before 684 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: I was done with my album. I'm actually playing good 685 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: turn there too. I played in these keys and I 686 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: tuned to a certain way to make sure they had 687 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: that dark texture, so I didn't tune it in like 688 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, the regular standard tune um and it has 689 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: a dullness about it. It felt magical to me. Here's 690 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: some more of this turn it out, like everything and 691 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: anything that broke me and took it away and you 692 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: feel my pain. Proud of this one? And that was 693 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: me talking to myself. Everything that was a little bard. 694 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: I was putting my poppy sing away. He ain't how 695 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: many times to take the single this one down? I 696 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: mean I sung it like two times through kidding me, 697 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: you know what I know. I'm gonna tell you the 698 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: first experience. So we have met at the house. He 699 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: came over and then I said, hey, you should come 700 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: up and do the show and play. And I figured 701 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: you'd be good. And we were in a temporary studio 702 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: because we're building a new studio, and everything was kind 703 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: of a mess. And you walked in and you had 704 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: the guys from Parmally Matt came in with Parmaly's right 705 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: and you started singing, and I was like, oh my god, 706 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: you may you And again I don't have a system, 707 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: but you maybe, if not the one of the best 708 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: singers ever being just sing straightforward. I was blown away. 709 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: And I don't throw out compliments like that very often 710 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: unless I mean it. And again I don't have a 711 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: full ranking system, but you may be the best singer 712 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: I've ever had in that room. And we have a 713 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of great singers in that room. It's my eyeballs 714 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: were so big. I was like, oh, this is it 715 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: right here. It was crazy, man. That comes from trying 716 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: to be hurt for so long, going through the hurt, 717 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: not being accepted, uh, wanting to never fit in but 718 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: stand out. And you can just hear the pain in 719 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: my voice when you started, I was born a real 720 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: I was like as soon as you started, hm and 721 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: you left, and we were all like, well, nobody needs 722 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: to come in the next couple of days because they 723 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: can't do that, Like, you gotta start the concert over. 724 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: You gotta have a new show. No one needs to 725 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: follow that. People surprise when you because you're the get 726 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: Up such a dance song. Are they surprised when you 727 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: just blow the place with your vocals? Yeah? I mean 728 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: you know you go from to the left to the left, 729 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: now to the ride to the ride. It's different from 730 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: built in. You know what I'm saying, to get up 731 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: start the purpose for what it is and what I'll 732 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: forever will be. Um the get up is like you 733 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: hear it, and you see this house when you dig 734 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: into like the album, you end the house. Now you 735 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: see how I decorated everything you get to enjoy the furnishing. 736 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: What handles did he choose? How did his kissing come together? 737 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: Why is there marble in the middle? You know what 738 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Why is there this? You kind of paint 739 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: the picture. Honeysuck on lining bugs the album ten songs, 740 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: You're right on all the songs. It's important to you 741 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: to be a writer. Um if somebody give me a 742 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: record that just touches my heart, then I definitely cut it. 743 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I have a couple that I've cut that 744 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: I've probably go on the second album. You already working 745 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: on the second album? Yeah? I mean I chose ten 746 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: records for this album from like an eighty song catalog, 747 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: straight trailer's wrap and the rest of your life. You 748 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: what we're doing to get up and you're good with that. 749 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm good with that. The last movie you saw in theaters? Yeah, 750 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: I can't do a while. Yeah, I ain't been in 751 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: a minute. Last concert you bought tickets for um that 752 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: I personally bought. Yeah, they didn't give you. Mumford and 753 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: Science where l a one? One more question? What's superstition? 754 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: Do you believe is true? Will you walk under a ladder? 755 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: And I don't believe in that. Okay, so you walk 756 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: under a ladder, I will too. I don't believe that. 757 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: Will you break a mirror? Someone said, you're tin bucks, 758 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: break that mirror? Yeah, break all right? If a black 759 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: I need them, tim, But I'm not a superstition guy either. Well, 760 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it, it's a it's a really interesting story. 761 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we could, we can talk about it 762 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: shared a little bit. I appreciate that. Thank you for 763 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: you evory thing. Yeah no, I just such a fan, 764 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: such a fan. I hope everybody listening to this check 765 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: that honeysuck on loney bugs. I'm gonna go back and 766 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: really listen to temper Insanity because I see, like that's 767 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: your favorite, like that not but that's something you're really 768 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: proud of. Like I want to go spend more because 769 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: I listen to the record a couple of times. I 770 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: really like it. I mean the first line like I 771 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: never meant to break your broken heart. These lonely nights 772 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: keep me staying awake hoping that my phone we ring. 773 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: All my life, I've been chasing charts. Never felt like 774 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's getting into the 775 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: depths of things, because now it's all reversed. Now that 776 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing my own music, I could care less about 777 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: looking at the charts every week blood Persson going up 778 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: and down. I just want to make music that's purposeful, 779 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: that people can relate to, that people can feel. And 780 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for one big old combustion, one big boom. 781 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: I want people to go along a journey and wrap 782 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: with me and get to know and grow with me. 783 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: I'm thutty folk. I'm not trying to fast forward nothing. 784 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: It's still the same process. I'm doing everything one step 785 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: at a time, as if the get up don't exist. 786 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: It's just a blessing to be here. I saw the 787 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: Timber Girl story two in the tweet you intended to 788 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: don't take the girl? Yes, that was like, so how 789 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: did that come together that I never knew could happen? Um, 790 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,959 Speaker 1: we had a show in Australia together and John told 791 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: me that he wanted to meet me. He said, Hey, 792 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: don't get your hopes up. I don't know what's gonna 793 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: happen when you meet him. He may get too busy, 794 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: you say, But y'all are being the same place at 795 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: the same time, so more than likely would happened. I 796 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: walked in the room one of the nicest guys I've 797 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: ever met. Uh. They had a good talk and some keys. 798 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's about to go down. I went 799 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,479 Speaker 1: to sweating and he was like, you know the song right? 800 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: I said, of course? And I said I got one 801 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: fact for you that you probably ain't thought about. Johnny 802 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: would be thirty three today. His son would be Tim. 803 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: In the song. They had him at twenty three, and 804 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: when Johnny was eight, I was nine. So I know 805 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: Johnny age. You know what I'm saying. He was just like, 806 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 1: that's a good one. We saw in the song. Where 807 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: did you sing the song? Uh? In the green room? 808 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: And so that record, I'll play it right here. So 809 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: this this don't take the girl? You and Tim, you 810 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: guys are just playing in the green room. Was that 811 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: it was like surreal? I mean I still look like 812 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: at the video and like this is really happy. I mean, 813 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: it ain't a moment that can make up for that 814 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: reason that has its own shelf, is own book. And 815 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: you get to play the ring your debut November nine. 816 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I'm going there and give 817 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: it my all. Do you know what you're gonna sing yet, Yeah, yeah, 818 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: you don't say huh, I mean I'm I mean, you're 819 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: definitely gonna hear temporary insanity. Yeah, you're gonna hear to 820 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: get up. Yeah, you're gonna hear jowls to power Tian whiskey. 821 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: You know, might have another one. Congratulations, Thank you so much. 822 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time there is. Check it out the record, 823 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: honeystuck on Lightning Bugs Blanco Brown and on Instagram at 824 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: Blanco Brown and if you do the dancing tag him 825 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: here I post it. Okay, you're always watching, always watching 826 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: the stories, and I'm working on some secret things. Well 827 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: that does nothing for me. You're rolling your hands all right. 828 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what a secret thing is, 829 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: but some some great things coming. Just remember you heard it. 830 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: We heard that you're working on a secret thing. Yeah, 831 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: guess what. I also I'm working on a couple of 832 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: secret things. But I will give you anything else and 833 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: then feel good? Does it holding? Alright, that's an episode 834 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: two and nine with Blanco Brown. Uh, check out the 835 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: whole record. It's been a few minutes with it. Alright. 836 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: Good to see you. Thank you. H