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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Called lighta Health.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the first edition of the week One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live Here on a Monday. Steve Tasher Chris Rpasso in

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Speaker 1: with us again this week. Thanks for coming in, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Good weekend. I guess you have to do anything fun.

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Speaker 2: Nice weather. Father daughter dance on Saturday night with my

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Speaker 2: two daughters. So it was good.

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Speaker 1: You have two daughters, you have two daughters in the

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Speaker 1: same they're in the close enough a five and.

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Speaker 2: About to be seven, so they were really excited about going.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. Yeah, I have. Yeah, I had a family

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Speaker 1: weekend as well. My one of my grandchildren, little granddaughter,

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Speaker 1: camp out. Grandpa was sleeping on the ground. It didn't

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Speaker 1: plus lack of sleep camping out and the kids were

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Speaker 1: on blast the energy level scavenger hunt. Yeah, all that pinata,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was like his carnage. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a fun weekend. Sunday got a little wet,

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Speaker 1: cool stuff going on across the border. In Hamilton, the

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Speaker 1: PGA event up there. I did not go, but it's

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Speaker 1: great finish, really nice finish. It was fun to see

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Speaker 1: those guys back in the saddle doing good golf. And

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Speaker 1: the did you see the thing that last year they

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Speaker 1: had the finish where the guy hit the seventy two

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Speaker 1: foot putt yep and tossed his potter? Yes, right when

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Speaker 1: and then they put that that as the logo of

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Speaker 1: the Canadian Opening. How cool is That's awesome? Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: And then this year the winner, his dad was on

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Speaker 2: on the PGA tour, but that was his first win.

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Speaker 2: Guy from Scotland. It was a cool It was hard

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Speaker 2: to hear him. He was ahead a really thick Scottish accent.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: But it was cool that back to back years that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool, pretty cool stuff. Some sad news

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Speaker 1: to pass along just before we came on the air today,

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Speaker 1: NFL longtime great Larry Allen fifty two years old, passed

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Speaker 1: away on a vacation with his family. He's a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame player with the Dallas Cowboys, And for those

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Speaker 1: of you casual fans who may not know who Larry

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Speaker 1: Allen is, he made one of the quintessential plays in

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Speaker 1: all football history. As a six foot three, three d

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Speaker 1: and twenty five pound man for the Dallas Cowboys. Ran

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Speaker 1: big line. He ran a linebacker down. He played guard,

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Speaker 1: and he takes off running after the guy and at

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Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five pounds, runs him down and

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Speaker 1: They both could not believe it, and even his teammates

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Speaker 1: that tipped pass from Troy Aikman? And you know Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin's trying to run him down, he can't do it,

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Speaker 1: Larry Allen gave one of the great Hall of Fame speeches,

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Speaker 1: It's tough to lose a really good guy and only

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Speaker 1: fifty two years old. So Larry Allen or condolences to

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Speaker 2: And this is one of the best guards in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: Six time All Pro two was thirteen Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: was certainly part of the Cowboys dynasty in the nineties

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Speaker 2: and he played forever. There's even a video of him.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and six Pro Bowl, they did a strongest

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Speaker 2: a lot of younger players, one of the strongest, best

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Speaker 2: pure athletes, I think certainly from your ara Steve when

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Speaker 2: Never heard a bad thing about him.

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Speaker 1: So it's a sad day for that for Cowboys country,

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Speaker 1: passing and uh and we're sorry to hear it. It is. Uh, well,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about receivers all last week, right.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about receivers, talking about two is waiting on

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Speaker 1: It is massive. Justin Jefferson, he gets and these these

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty seven, he gets twenty five twenty nine million

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Speaker 2: Four years, one hundred and forty million. And then everything

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Speaker 2: which is astronomy astronomical, and especially at wide receiver. Before

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Speaker 2: in set records. It's the highest non quarterback deal in history,

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Speaker 2: but that's a huge jump from aj Brown to Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Also, on top of his twenty nine million dollar base

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Speaker 1: Now little guarantee. It's it's worth possibly one hundred and

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Speaker 2: as they're reaching age twenty seven, age twenty eight, age

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about anybody else. I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: it would affect me in a negative way. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: I would have a hard time getting motivated to go

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I'm that's kind of tongue

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Speaker 2: And his elite He fits in it well and.

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Speaker 1: The elite traits, and they built it around him extremely well.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Christoposso or we're here till three. We're

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Speaker 1: also asking if we have a question out there for you.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of responses already because some of

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Speaker 1: you are out there ahead of us on social media.

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Speaker 1: Where have the Bills improved from last season? This is

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Speaker 1: a tough question because there's been so much turnover, and

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Speaker 1: even if it ends up this being the time the

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Speaker 1: addition of the Bills that blows the doors off everything,

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Speaker 1: you can't really say it from this end of the

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Speaker 1: schedule because they're not proven. We haven't seen it, and

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Speaker 1: there's nobody there's one receiver on the team that has

448
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Speaker 1: caught a pass from Josh. We keep saying it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shaki is the only guy that's actually played it

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Speaker 1: down for the Bills in a game. Now, they've got

451
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Speaker 1: some talent guys. Curtis Samuel and Keon Coleman are in

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Speaker 1: the building. Mac Hollins is in the building. They got

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Speaker 1: some dudes, but nobody's caught a pass yet in the game.

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Speaker 1: Kin Kaid's still going to be there, James Cook's still

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Speaker 1: going to be there. They've got some guys that can

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Speaker 1: do it, and you know, you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: faith in great, but we haven't seen it. The defense,

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Speaker 1: the linebackers should be back healthy. Milano's gonna be back healthy.

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Speaker 1: Bernard's going to be back healthy. The secondary, we've talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about, is going to be probably significantly more athletic,

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Speaker 1: and it has been in recent years just because Hide

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Speaker 1: and Poyer we're old. But I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: going to be better because of that faster Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: worth like great, but they got to see it before

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Speaker 1: it happens, and we don't know if they can do that.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions about this roster that

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Speaker 1: we've gone round and round about. And when we ask

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Speaker 1: the question new our listeners, where have the Bills improved

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Speaker 1: from last season? I'm going to be really interested in

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Speaker 1: their responses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just positionally, this is more projection than anything else.

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Speaker 2: This is an understanding you probably need to have of

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Speaker 2: some of the other outside players that the Bills that

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Speaker 2: brought in because there have just been so many. We

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Speaker 2: talked about it last week. Compared to the last four years,

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Speaker 2: where the Bills were retaining almost everyone, they weren't losing

477
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Speaker 2: anyone in free agency, that's not the case this year.

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Speaker 2: So do you think it's the corner beckroom, the offensive line, receivers,

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff? What part will we look back upon

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Speaker 2: next year or throughout twenty twenty four and say, you

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Speaker 2: know what, that group was actually better than it was

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting. Certainly, you can make a case

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Speaker 1: if you know early in the year, if Mlona stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: Bernard comes back, you've got Dorrian Williams behind him, You've

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Speaker 1: got morrow In behind them. You can make a case

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Speaker 1: for the lineback in quarterbeacks. You know a lot better,

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Speaker 1: particularly given Bernard's and just.

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Speaker 2: Not being ravaged by injury like it was last season.

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Speaker 1: And giving Bernard's a year of experience now as well.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot in it Josh going into year seven

492
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Speaker 1: for him, you know, is Trubisky. Does Trubisky make you

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Speaker 1: feel better about the quarterback room rather than Alan the

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Speaker 1: other one? Kyle Allen, I don't know. Maybe in years

495
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Speaker 1: past there has been such a huge number of guys

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Speaker 1: that are retained. This is a different year. My take

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Speaker 1: has always it's going to remain this. It may take

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Speaker 1: him a minute to find it, but when they do,

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Speaker 1: this could be the best version of the bills that

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's ever ever put together.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the se sure, sure, sure, And

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Speaker 2: they've been so good in December and January. They've lost

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Speaker 2: two games in December and January since twenty twenty. So

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Speaker 2: they always go. They have always gone into the playoffs

505
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Speaker 2: last four years in the Sean McDermott and Josh Allen era,

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Speaker 2: as we've seen Josh becoming a league quarterback with a

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Speaker 2: full head of steam. Oh no, no, I was gonna

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Speaker 2: say what I'm interested in because this is kind of

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Speaker 2: how I view it. What do you the fans, the viewers,

510
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Speaker 2: how do you view the offensive line? Because you lose

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Speaker 2: Mitch mors to some people, he I mean he was

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Speaker 2: a captain, He was a quality center since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: But maybe do they get more athletic? Do they get

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Speaker 2: a little stronger and bigger with Connor McGovern. They draft

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Speaker 2: Cedric van Prant Granger in the fifth round out of Georgia,

516
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Speaker 2: who was this celebrated pivot there at Georgia. You have

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Speaker 2: o Cyrus Torrans entering year too. You normally see kind

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Speaker 2: of a big jump for offensive lineman year one to

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Speaker 2: year two, just not hitting the rookie wall getting stronger,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown entering a contract year, David Edwards, Alec Anderson.

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Speaker 2: Do you view that as a group that's gotten better

522
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Speaker 2: or worse? Are we going to because last year I

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Speaker 2: think we would all say the fact that it was

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Speaker 2: able to stay healthy. This is the offensive line for

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Speaker 2: all seventeen games into the playoffs. It was the strength

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Speaker 2: of this team. That's where they were able to lean

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Speaker 2: on the ground game more than they ever had in

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Speaker 2: the Josh Allen era. But subtract Mitch Morse, move Connor

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Speaker 2: McGovern to center, plug your swing tackle David Edwards, who

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Speaker 2: was good when he was on the field, to left

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Speaker 2: guard year two of Osiris torrans contract year for Spencer

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Speaker 2: Brown and some good depth behind that. I think the

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Speaker 2: offensive line group we're going to look back and say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Mitch Morse was great, and he was

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Speaker 2: a great return on investment from twenty nineteens free agency.

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Speaker 2: But this offensive line is actually a better unit in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four than it was the previous season.

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Speaker 1: And it could be I think certainly they got bigger

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Speaker 1: at center with McGovern moving down. Osiris Torrens is going

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Speaker 1: to do nothing to get better as the season wears

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Speaker 1: on the health of that group. If you get younger

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Speaker 1: down inside, ostensibly kind of you think you're going to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy here. But the loss of it's just the

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Speaker 1: loss of Hide Poyer, Morse White, who's going to step

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Speaker 1: up more different guys who have a lot of experience

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Speaker 1: and a lot of faith placed in them.

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Speaker 2: You were saying to me off air, how long do

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Speaker 2: you think for conm mc governor, who did play center

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Speaker 2: at Penn State for a short period but has not

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Speaker 2: played center for a prolonged period in the NFL. Mostly

551
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Speaker 2: been a guard and kind of an h back and

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Speaker 2: extra guy. How long do you think in terms of

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00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: the cerebral part of the game, where maybe the Bills know,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're getting bigger, stronger, younger, more athletic, going

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Speaker 2: from Mitchmors to CONOMC government. How long do you think

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Speaker 2: it takes to kind of learn all the protections and understanding.

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Speaker 2: Is that training camp is at two weeks, is at

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Speaker 2: two months? I think that will probably tell us and

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Speaker 2: indicate how quickly this group can kind of gel around

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Speaker 2: their center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on down inside, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with reps. And but

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like there are strangers down there either.

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Speaker 1: It's just gone ye, and whoever's is going to be

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Speaker 1: put in there is probably going to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of reps starting even the last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 1: If he hasn't been if it's not one of the

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Speaker 1: guys that have been here in the room anyway, So

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a step forward for for all

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Speaker 1: the right reasons. And you know, because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you do get guys, you can get bigger, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you can get.

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Speaker 2: Stronger, And I think that was an emphasis. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: it before. They wanted to get bigger up front over

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Speaker 2: the last two years, and they certainly have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've seen it both a wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: the offensive.

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Speaker 2: Line, bigger, more physical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, if they put Kyrie Elam on

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Speaker 1: the field with Christian Benford, you got two big corners

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Speaker 1: as well. All that goes into the mix. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting, and we'll ask you. You can give

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Speaker 1: us a call if you want to at eight or

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Speaker 1: three zero five fifty or one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Steve Tasker, Christraphpass or you're listening

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo Bills Radio. This is one Bill's Live. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back to one of those lives.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Trapasso, we're talking about where

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00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: the Bills might have improved this offseason. We also had

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about the Justin Jefferson contract, which

592
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: is absolutely enormous. But we'll take a call from David

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Speaker 1: David's in Niagara Falls. David, you're almost Stephen, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: I you know, obviously, as a offensive line looks like

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Speaker 4: you know, it's way ahead of everybody else. But I'm

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Speaker 4: just want to focus on the defense. I know that

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Speaker 4: Jet's quotes a couple of years ago said McDermott's got

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Speaker 4: these guys playing without thinking. I don't think that's going

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Speaker 4: to happen with our defense for the first four or

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Speaker 4: five weeks, and we got real tough schedule the first

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Speaker 4: four or five weeks. That's why the defensive line and

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Speaker 4: specifically the defensive tackle has got to get up the

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Speaker 4: middle quick, put pressure on the quarterback and take the

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Speaker 4: pressure off the secondary who's probably not going to be

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Speaker 4: playing without thinking probably for the first to half five

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Speaker 4: or four or five weeks, unless mcderma can, you know,

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Speaker 4: create a miracle and get these guys playing without thinking.

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Speaker 4: But I just wanted to also mention that the new

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Speaker 4: guy s Stevenson, with his wrestling movies, he gonna be

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Speaker 4: able to do those kinds of things, grabbing guy's legs

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Speaker 4: and flipping them over and getting in there. Is he

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Speaker 4: limited on what he can do from his wrestling background.

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Speaker 1: Well, his wrestling background will have him. He'll be able

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Speaker 1: to match hands with a guy for sure and get

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Speaker 1: his hands off of him. He'll probably be very slippery

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Speaker 1: as well. And probably be really adept at body position

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Speaker 1: and getting in a position to where he can use leverage.

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Speaker 1: He's probably really good at leverage, but he does. There's

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Speaker 1: no question Gable has a lot to learn, and it's

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Speaker 1: a long it's a long learning curve. Certainly he's physically

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Speaker 1: gifted enough to do it and it won't be foreign

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Speaker 1: to him pushing a man against his will. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: is used to hard confrontation, physical confrontation, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of times for guys coming into the league, that's hard,

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Speaker 1: that's hard to overcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'll say as a draft analyst about this

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Speaker 2: is that so many I've scouted, so many defensive linemen

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Speaker 2: that check all the athletic boxes and that they can

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Speaker 2: be even in the SEC. They can be the biggest,

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Speaker 2: the fastest, most explosive interior defensive lineman, but they're not

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Speaker 2: good with their hands. So they get to the NFL,

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Speaker 2: every center, every guard, even if they're playing outside, and

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Speaker 2: every tackle that they deal with is a karate master

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Speaker 2: with their hands, and they're able to be matching you

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Speaker 2: with your first step, and then they're so good with

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Speaker 2: their handwork that you've seen so many of those elite

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Speaker 2: athletes ultimately fail. Where I think Stevenson is not just

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Speaker 2: this you know, random signing that we're not going to

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Speaker 2: ever hear anything of. And why I have a little

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Speaker 2: more more encouragement and hope for him is of what

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Speaker 2: you just said there at the beginning, Steve, that his

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Speaker 2: hand use is probably way further ahead of even some

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Speaker 2: guys who have played collegiate football that are just only

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Speaker 2: leaning on their athleticism once they get to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the things that'll come that are

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Speaker 1: you guys have to be. It'll come to him more

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Speaker 1: instinctively because that's all they That's all you do in

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Speaker 1: wrestling is get the guy's arms off you. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: for offensive lineman, with a guy who is already a

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Speaker 1: PhD at that, it'll give him a quick leg up

652
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Speaker 1: on making making making it tough for offensive linemen to

653
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Speaker 1: hold him.

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Speaker 2: And for David's question, I think was a really good

655
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: point to that there's so many new pieces. We've talked

656
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: about it already the last couple of months, uh post draft,

657
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: but up front with Greg Russo, Deikwon Jones, at Oliver

658
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: aj Panessa, that's the same starting group as last year.

659
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Speaker 2: So David said that early on, it really will be

660
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: the onus will be on the defensive line to get

661
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: home to help some of these newcomers in the secondary

662
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: at linebacker, Cole Bishop, at safety, Mike Edwards some new

663
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: pieces as they really learned the Sean McDermott defense. I

664
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: think that was a good point by David, that it

665
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: will really be on the defensive line maybe until we

666
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Speaker 2: get to October.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let's take another call. Mark and West Seneca's

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Speaker 1: on your own one Bills Live with Steve and Chris.

669
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Speaker 1: What's on your mind?

670
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: Mark?

671
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Speaker 5: Very good, after Steve, Chris, how are you guys doing

672
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: to good? Good? Good?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Chrissy stole my thunder about the offensive line When I

675
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: heard your question, That's what I was calling about in

676
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: my mind.

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00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Mark said, Mark, I think we might have lost Mark,

678
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: he just are there, guys, Yes.

679
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: We lost it for a second.

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Speaker 5: Sorry about that. As I was saying, I said, I

681
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: always have thought that the offensive line is the engine

682
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: of a team. It certainly was when we went to

683
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: those four Super Bowls. I think you might agree, Steve,

684
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: we had an unbelievable offensive line to be able to

685
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: do what they did. And that being said, I think

686
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: they've gotten better, certainly more sturdy, and as much as

687
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: I like Mitch Morris, I thought he had he was

688
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: a little undersized and could get pushed back a little

689
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 5: bit once in a while, especially against somebody's formidable d

690
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: tackles in the AFC East at the time before Wilkins

691
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 5: what But anyway, so I think they definitely have gotten better,

692
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: more sturdy through the center guard positions. But I think

693
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: their depth is just absolutely awesome what they put together now.

694
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: I mean, we got plug and play guys basically across

695
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: the whole line right now if we have any injuries. Secondly,

696
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: my second choice would have been the linebackers. I think

697
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: if Molalle comes back and he's Milano, with him and Bernard,

698
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: we are definitely way ahead of what we ever were

699
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: with Milano at Edmunds. I think Bernard is much more

700
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: a playmaker and it's definitely played to his personal potential

701
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: much more in one year than Edmunds ever did while

702
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: he was in Buffalo. So I really liked that combination.

703
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: Assuming they both come back healthy and they can start

704
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 5: putting something together. And lastly, real quick, Steve, that is

705
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Speaker 5: a huge comment that this could be the best version

706
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Speaker 5: of the Bill since mcdermot's been yere, those guys in

707
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 5: the defensive backfield have got a long way to go

708
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: to even come close to the play that we saw

709
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 5: on a regular basis with Poyer, Hide and Tradevius White back.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'll say this, thanks and thanks for the call, Mark,

711
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: And you're right. It is kind of a big statement.

712
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: And who knows whether I'm going to be right or

713
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I will find out the proof. The proof is in

714
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: the pudding. But I'll say this, the same athleticism and

715
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the same playmaking ability was the engine that drove this

716
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: team early on in the McDermott era, when Poyer and

717
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Hyde were young and they want that experience, they weren't

718
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: that experienced. They came in and those guys were the

719
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: engine that drove because they didn't have an offense. I mean,

720
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Tyrod was still running the offense. Poyer and Hide and

721
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: those guys did it. So I think that getting back

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00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: to that, with the athletes and the coaching, I just

723
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: think this team does have a really good chance of

724
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Speaker 1: being a special group, don't you know. And you know,

725
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Speaker 1: if they get back to the AFC Championship game or

726
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: if they get back, if they can somehow make the

727
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or and all of that stuff. It's going

728
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: to be because they're athletic in the back end, and

729
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: that's where they that's what they brought in the door.

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Speaker 2: And if there was one critique of a secondary that

731
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: has been, like Mark said, amazing since twenty seventeen, Like

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Speaker 2: you're mentioning that not only were Poyer and Hyde that experience,

733
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Speaker 2: but they were like Poyer was a low level free agent,

734
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Mikeah Hyde was a mid level free agent and he

735
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: rose to all Pro caliber under Sean McDermott and Bobby

736
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Babbitt's tutelage. To me that I think if there was

737
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: one critique, it wasn't the most dynamically explosive group. That

738
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Trey White was not a four to three forty forty

739
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: inch vertical guy. That's not where Michael Hyde, that's not

740
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: how he won. It was all instincts. Jordan Poyer, same deal.

741
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: You're right with Cole Bishop being as big and fast

742
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: as he is, some other pieces that they've added Taylor

743
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: Rapp as a plus athlete, So yes, they're not going

744
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: to be as cerebrally plugged into Sean McDermott's scheme. Obviously,

745
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: as the pass regime was in terms of the safety

746
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: and cornerback Geru. But Steve's point, I think is astute

747
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: that they are definitely more dynamic athletically in the second day.

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: I'll say this too in twenty nineteen when they went

749
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs after in Josh's rookie yar. You know,

750
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: they didn't make it when they got back in twenty nineteen.

751
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: One of the things that drove the engine in the

752
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: early part of the season was their ability to get turnovers.

753
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: They got a ton of turnovers in the first five

754
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: or six seven games of the season, and it really

755
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: gave them a chance to win games they had no

756
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: business winning with the offense. Then the offense did get

757
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: on track and they and they turned it loose and

758
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: they became a really good football team back in the playoffs. Uh.

759
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: But the secondary and their athleticism, you know, really drove

760
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: the engine as far as the turnovers. We'll take one

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Speaker 1: more call here while we're still on this, Tom on

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00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: the west side, go ahead. You're on with Chris and Steve.

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Speaker 1: Tom You're there, all right? Tom is not there now?

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Speaker 6: I'm here there all right?

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Speaker 1: Tom? How you doing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 8: I finally heard the ding. Good afternoon, guys. You guys

768
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 8: have touched out a lot of the subjects I want

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 8: to talk about. As Mark was just talking about the

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00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 8: linebacker as they excite me, uh, the defensive line. It's

771
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 8: ironic you mentioned that. I think it was Mike, I think,

772
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 8: and he was talking about Stevenson because when I mentioned

773
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Speaker 8: it to my son, who's a big w w E fan,

774
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 8: he's like, oh, he's flunked out in w W E.

775
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 8: Said how he's going to try football, and it's like, well,

776
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 8: he's a wrestler and so is McDermott, so I can

777
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 8: understand why McDermott's giving him a shot. But anyway, the

778
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 8: reason I called is I wanted to an honorable mention

779
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 8: for the wide receiver room because I think it's going

780
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 8: to be a lot more diverse. But the running back room,

781
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 8: I'm interested in seeing what they're going to do this

782
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 8: year with the tight ends and the why and the

783
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 8: wide receivers. How are the running backs going to fit

784
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 8: in there? Specifically Frank Lord Junior.

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00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question.

786
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.

787
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: No, I think Frank Corr Junior has a reasonable shot

788
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: to make this team. Now, will the Bills some time

789
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: between now June third and they started training camp or

790
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: into the preseason. Sign another veteran, just someone that has

791
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: gotten carries they could That wouldn't surprise me at all.

792
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: But in watching him at Southern Mess he's smaller, but

793
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: Frank Gore Junior is elusive. He plays bigger than his size.

794
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: They don't have, you know, three or four backs that

795
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: are totally entrenched there. They have a rookie and Ray Davis.

796
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson was a street free agent not that long

797
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: ago and played really well down the stretch. You obviously

798
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: have the breakout star in James Cook. So I think

799
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: this is a group and Steve and I have talked

800
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: about this Brandon Bean and maybe this started all the

801
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: way back, you know, with Brian Dable and then Ken

802
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: Dorsey now into Joe Brady. They want their running backs

803
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: to be able to be serious receiving threats, and Ray

804
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: Davis led all of the draft class in receiving touchdowns

805
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: at the running back spot with seven. We know James

806
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Cook's ability at Georgia as a receiver, and Frank or

807
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Junior can be that outside running back as well. So

808
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: they want to spread things out with different looks with

809
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid spread out and all these new wide receivers.

810
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: You don't really know where they're going to allow bigger

811
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: lanes for this running game. So don't be surprised if

812
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: early on or you're watching the preseason game and you

813
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: see Frank Gore in the second half make some places.

814
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Because I think he has the talent to be an

815
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: NFL running back. He's just a little bit undersized, doesn't

816
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: quite have his dad's side. So I do think the

817
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: running backs will factor in, and their receiving ability I

818
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: think will probably be more so than other teams leaned upon.

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00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Here in Buffalo, they got four running backs listed on

820
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: their roster, and it's five of them, James Cook, Darrington Evans,

821
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, and Ty Johnson, and of course then there's

822
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam who's a full back. It's not that many guys,

823
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: and I would you'd be hard pressed to have any

824
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: of them go out the door at any point. They're

825
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: all going to be here in some fashion on the

826
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: practice squad, on the roster and game day and active

827
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: what have you. You can't go in to see and

828
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: with that and expect to get through the season intact.

829
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there don't need more guys than that, yep.

830
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: So whether they bring guys in or whatever remains to

831
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: be seen. But you can bet that all of these

832
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: guys are going to have a chance to They're.

833
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: Going to get a shot. They're gonna get a shot.

834
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: For sure, you're gonna have a chance to stick around

835
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: for quite some time. So that being said, if you

836
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: look back at the big picture, after Joe Brady took over,

837
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: we saw the Bills start to go a little bit

838
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: more fifty to fifty on run neutral downs and that

839
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: what that means is it's an analytics term, and I

840
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: think I'm saying it right. What it means is there's

841
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: down and distances like second and four, you know right

842
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: that you could do either.

843
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: Or neutral score, like if it's a close game, right right.

844
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: All of those situations where you know it's close game,

845
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: you're in it.

846
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, and you can it's really what you want

847
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: to do, yeah, what you want to do.

848
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: The Bills started to go fifty to fifty those instead

849
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: of putting the ball back in Josh's hands and say listen,

850
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna sling it again. Here we go, they were

851
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: much more fifty to fifty in those situations, which meant

852
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: people started to noticing, wow, we're running the ball all

853
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: the time. You know, basically we're running it, you know

854
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: a little more, and it's really situational when they're running

855
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: it more. And they were successful doing it. I gotta

856
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: say they were, and thanks to that offensive line. The

857
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: offensive line was firing off. They're big, they're physical down inside,

858
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance and Connor McGovern with morson inside, they were

859
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: big big enough.

860
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: And where I've always landed on this quickly is that

861
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is Josh Allen. He should be the focal

862
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: point of the offense. Joe Brady has mentioned it is

863
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's offense. But I think part of the reason,

864
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: as Josh Allen became an elite quarterback that the Bills

865
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Speaker 2: were not really running the ball is because they just

866
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Speaker 2: didn't have the offensive line for it. Now they do.

867
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Speaker 2: It would be silly for Joe Brady to say, hey,

868
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: we're just never going to run the ball if you

869
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 2: have all the size and athleticism that we're talking about

870
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: that they added up front late in a game to

871
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Speaker 2: put it away instead of, you know, a tip past

872
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: turns into an interception for Josh and then there you know,

873
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: the opponents back in the game, run the ball with

874
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: James Cook like they did against the Cowboys. That can

875
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Speaker 2: be an effective way to close out a game.

876
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Speaker 1: Right, we got more to talk about. We're gonna come

877
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Speaker 1: back to take a short break and we'll come back

878
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: and finish up till the top of the hour. We're

879
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna take more of your phone calls. We'll get back

880
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet about where the Buffalo Bills have improved.

881
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Collide Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

883
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. We're talking about where the Buffalo Bills

884
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: have improved from last year. We've got a call from

885
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: our good friend Ryan north of the border. Ryan in Toronto.

886
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're on with Steve and Chris.

887
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 7: Doing well, good man. I know you're talking about the

888
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 7: way the Bills have improved. To be quite honest, over

889
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 7: all our things, the Bills have taken a step back. Yeah,

890
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 7: to me, catching the offense, defense, a lot of new pieces,

891
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 7: a lot of one knowing's that's my dog. I want

892
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 7: to get talks on that.

893
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you this you're right. I think the

894
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: more important thing, or the more accurate thing is I

895
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: don't know if they've taken a step back or not.

896
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: But we've got a lot of guys we haven't seen

897
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: play as a Buffalo Bill yet. You know, Curtis Samuel

898
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: may be better than Gabe Davis. You know we might

899
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: have Justin Shorter and Tyrrell Shavers might be better than

900
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Gave Davis. Mac holland might be. Kean Coleman has got

901
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: a chance to be. Steph Diggs is a hard guy

902
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: to replace. But if you replace Steph Diggs with three

903
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: guys plus a couple of guys who are gonna maybe

904
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: have as we've talked about, the guys who have come

905
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: to the Bills from other places as wide receivers, maybe

906
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: have career years, you got a chance not to miss

907
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, particularly since the offense under Joe Brady at

908
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: the second half of last year looked a lot different

909
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: than it did when Steph Diggs was getting the lion's

910
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: share the targets and line sheriff catches and line shaff yards.

911
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: They spread it out a lot. That's when Khalil Shakir

912
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: got better. It's when carry so there's a ton of

913
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: guys who have gotten better and benefited from an offense.

914
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: It's more diverse and more I don't know, socialized.

915
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: Yes, sure what I will say though, to Ryan's point,

916
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: that's not a crazy assessment to come in on a

917
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: season and say, look, I don't see Jordan poyerback there.

918
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: I know, Tradavius White's gone, Michael Hyde, we don't know.

919
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: These were established names. And like we talked last segment,

920
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: you know, turning the football over every year, they were

921
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: near the top of the league interceptions and force fumbles,

922
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: and they weren't giving up a lot of points. They

923
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: were scoring between twenty five and thirty points a game. Offensively,

924
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: there are a lot of new pieces. I think you

925
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: have to have a very firm grasp of the entire

926
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: league and in understanding what MVS brings to the table Curtis, Samuel,

927
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards, things like that. So certainly to come into

928
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: this season and say I'm a little concerned, there's uncertainty,

929
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: it certainly will be a growing or acclamation project early

930
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: on for this team.

931
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Speaker 1: Generally speaking, too, Ryan, and thanks for your call, appreciate it.

932
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: One of the things you can say about the NFL

933
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: with very few exceptions, most like quarterbacks are a little

934
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: bit of an exception to this. You don't get better

935
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: getting old. That's a hard one to hear if you're

936
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: an old player like I was at the end of

937
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: my career. It's you don't get better when you get older,

938
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: you get you get more fragile, basically. And while there

939
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of unknowns in this in the building

940
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: for the Bills, there's a lot of things that are known.

941
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Speaker 1: They're faster, they're bigger, and they're stronger at a lot

942
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: of positions. Wide receiver, they're but faster, bigger, and stronger.

943
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Offensive line, they're bigger and more athletic, and in the secondary.

944
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 1: If you want to get better, that's a great place

945
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: to start because you know it, you can see it.

946
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: It's kind of like balancing the youth and the athleticism

947
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: with the established pieces. Truly, and you can look back

948
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: on my Twitter or on x when the Bills released

949
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Trey White, Mitch Morris, and Jordan Poyer, I wasn't super shocked.

950
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: Now were they all pro players? Were they Pro Bowl

951
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: players in Buffalo? Absolutely?

952
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Certainly, Trey was no surprise.

953
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Yes, because of his injuries, But I thought that Jordan

954
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: Poyer to go from five interceptions in twenty twenty two

955
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: no interceptions last year. Mitch Morse a little bit long

956
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: in the tooth, not quite as mobile. The other caller,

957
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: I think is stutely pointed out that getting pushed back

958
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: into the pocket a little more now, making the calls

959
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: and understanding audibles and where to slide protection. Certainly true

960
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: was a very good in that realm, but it kind

961
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: of felt like like you're saying it was about time

962
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: and that could Mitch Morris and Trey White and Jordan

963
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Poyer have run it back for the Bills this season. Sure,

964
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're players that deserve to be out

965
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: of the league, but it just kind of felt like

966
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: they were getting up there in age injury wise, and

967
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: their production had fallen.

968
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Off, and certainly the offensive line got younger with the

969
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: addition of Osiris Torrance and then Connor McGovern uh. Spencer

970
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Brown still has to be considered a young player, even

971
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: though he's one of those guys. It just seems to

972
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be his lot in life as a pro.

973
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna get off season clean up surgery every year

974
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: he got back surgery two years ago. He got I

975
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: think a knee last year and he got it I

976
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: think he got it shoulder this year. It's just gonna

977
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: be one of those things about him. And then you'd

978
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: be shocked at the number of surgery's offensive linemen go

979
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: through sometimes, so that seems to be kind of his thing.

980
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: But still a young offensive line, and I think certainly

981
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: that's a nod to the health, to the reasons they

982
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: stayed healthy. Mitch stayed healthy last year. Is the oldest

983
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: guy on that offensive line. But nobody took a break

984
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: Dank until until uh Dion got his fingers split open

985
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh game. So you can't count on that

986
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: happening every year. But they've brought in some guys who

987
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: have some chops and I'll tell you what, Lyyle Collins

988
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: can play. H Vandermark came in and played admirably in

989
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: a playoff game for Dion.

990
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: David Edwards will clap his place.

991
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: At they got some guys and then Van Pran Granger,

992
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: it would be you'd be hard pressed to find a

993
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: guy with more elite credentials as a center in college

994
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: football than Van Prang Green.

995
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: Gentral how he was there in the fifth round. I

996
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: was shocked by that.

997
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Was I don't know what. Yeah, certainly, physically he seems

998
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: big enough. I mean he's but yeah, so I'm I'm

999
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: not saying it's a magic elixir that this they're gonna

1000
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: get younger and therefore stay healthier, but it certainly is

1001
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: a good.

1002
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: Start super quickly. I'll say this, We obviously don't know

1003
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. No one does. You can be uncertain.

1004
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: But I think the job that Sean McDermott did in

1005
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: chapter one of his era to bring up guys like

1006
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Michael Hyde and Jordan Poyer and even Josh Allen and

1007
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: develop them, I think he's earned the benefit of the

1008
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: doubt to bring some unknown names in chapter two, we're

1009
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: calling it and really getting the most out of them.

1010
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: As we enter twenty twenty four season.

1011
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and get to the top

1012
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: of the hour. We'll be back right after this. We're

1013
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna come back. Got some news about the NFL and

1014
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's being a part of the draft process.

1015
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Bill's OTAs are continuing today. Mandatory Mini camp begins June eleventh,

1016
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: in another week. This is phase three of the Bill's

1017
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: Mini Camp and also you've heard as well, training camp

1018
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: is gonna start. We're ninety seven days away from opening day.

1019
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff to get done before that. We'll

1020
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: be right back after the break Steve Tasker, Christrapasso on

1021
00:51:26,080 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. These One Bills Live, presented by Calllighta Health.

1022
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back into the second hour of One Bill's Lives.

1023
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: Steve Taster and Chris Trapassa. We've been asking you are listeners,

1024
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: loyal and faithful listeners, to answer the question, where have

1025
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: the Bills improved from last season? It's a tough question

1026
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: for some and uh, Barb, We're going to take a

1027
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: call from Barb who is in Holland, New York, and

1028
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: let me see if I can get on the Oh,

1029
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: there we go, Barb, you're on with Steve and Chris.

1030
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Yeah, Hi, How are you?

1031
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 3: How are they both of good?

1032
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: Yes?

1033
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 9: I'm calling today because I'm very upset at most of

1034
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 9: the fan base that keeps talking about they're lacking here,

1035
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 9: they're doing this and that. I listen to you guys

1036
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 9: all year at this time, and I'll tell you at

1037
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 9: the time, I was really like, are you kidding me?

1038
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 10: We've got Steph Diggs.

1039
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 3: All he does is complain, and.

1040
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 9: We had Gabe Davis, y'all, but we didn't have near

1041
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 9: the choices that we have now. They have worked tirelessly

1042
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 9: to bring us a lot of choices, a better team.

1043
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 9: I think Josh has a much better attitude because he's

1044
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 9: not being told what he needs to be doing and

1045
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 9: who he needs to be throwing to. I just think

1046
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 9: it's going to be great. I really do. I think

1047
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 9: it's going to be the best team we've ever had.

1048
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 9: And I want to tell the naysayers just shut up

1049
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 9: and go away. Take a listening to you.

1050
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, thank you, Bob. That's awesome to hear.

1051
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for calling. I'll say this, not everybody's in

1052
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: the same spot. I mean that's the way fans are.

1053
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: Some fans are nervous nellies, and some of them are,

1054
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: like you know, Connor, confident, right. I mean they're just

1055
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: all about it, like barb Is. I get where people

1056
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: come from, and they're afraid of the unknown. The Bills

1057
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't make any of these moves this year, thinking they

1058
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: couldn't make it right or get better through some avenue,

1059
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: the draft, free agency, all of that and through whatever

1060
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: addition by subtraction, because some of the answers that they're

1061
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: turning to are unknowns. I think it's a mistake to

1062
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: downgrade them totally. And it's like we've been talking about.

1063
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: You can sit here right now and say athletically, this

1064
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: team's better. This team's better. Maybe what defensive tackle they

1065
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: went sideways, But in the secondary, I mean, Mica and

1066
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Jordan were like they're in their mid.

1067
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Thirties and being safeties in your mid thirties in the.

1068
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: NFL, it's hard. It's hard at corner. If you get

1069
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: if Kyrie Elam plays any amount of time, they're better.

1070
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: Everybody on the defensive secondary is better. That guy is

1071
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: an elite athlete. Christian Benford's coming back. He is as

1072
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: solid as the day is long. Taron Johnson continues to

1073
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: be one of the top two or three nickel corners

1074
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: in the entire world of football. Matt Milano and Christian

1075
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Benford are outstanding. Benford was really good. And I'll say this,

1076
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: if Milano is not on the field and Dorian Williams

1077
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: steps on the field, yeah, you're better athletically there too.

1078
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Dorian Williams is a freakish athlete. That all of that

1079
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: stuff together tells me that in some ways there's no

1080
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: doubt they're gonna be better now. The experience and the

1081
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: savvy and the football IQ that remains to be seen,

1082
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: those are unknowns. But I know this. We didn't know

1083
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: too much about Poyer and Hyde when they signed them

1084
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: six seven, eight years ago as Sean McDermott's first free

1085
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: agent signings. And they got good quick under the coaching

1086
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: of this guy. Sure it's the same guy. And there's

1087
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: nothing that says Mike Edwards and Nicholas Nick Morrow, uh

1088
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Cole Bishop aren't gonna spread their wings pretty quickly under

1089
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: this guy. So I'm I get it. It's hard to

1090
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: have confidence in things that you don't know about yet.

1091
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: But you've got a group of people here whose track record,

1092
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is really good, and you gotta try.

1093
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: You gotta let's just say it. Let's gotta trust that process,

1094
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: right uh there. Certainly they took the they took made

1095
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: the major decision and bit the bullet economically with Steph Diggs.

1096
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: But after the second half of last year where they

1097
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: were six and one coming down the stretch, like you know,

1098
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: we got it done.

1099
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: You took the words right out of my mouth. That's

1100
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: where I've been on the Steph Diggs. What's the offense

1101
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: going to look like? How are they going to be

1102
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: as good as they've been in terms of efficiency? We

1103
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: saw it down the stretch. Steph Diggs, we said it

1104
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 2: last week. Averaged four catches and I think forty yards

1105
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: per forty five yards per game down the stretch. He

1106
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: was not all pro stefon Diggs. They went six to one.

1107
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: The offense was clearly a bigger challenge for every defense,

1108
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: and they face some good defenses down the stretch and

1109
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. So we already kind of saw that,

1110
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 2: and that was with Joe Brady not necessarily being able

1111
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: to install everything he wanted to from the quote unquote

1112
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Joe Brady playbook. So there are a lot of unknowns.

1113
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't think Ryan's call was crazy to say, hey, look,

1114
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: maybe they've taken a step back. It's just because, like

1115
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Steve saying, the unknown can be scary. But what like

1116
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: what I said pre two o'clock hour, I think Sean

1117
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: McDermott and his staff have earned the benefit of the

1118
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: doubt that they can develop And how about this, maybe

1119
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: you can say, hey, look I don't know about all

1120
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: these unknown guys. How about the fact that we all

1121
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: understand every every single football fan, whether you're playing on

1122
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: five fantasy leagues, whether you have Sunday NFL ticket or not,

1123
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: understands that quarterback moves the needle more than anything else.

1124
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: And the Chiefs stepped away from Tyreek Hill, the Packers

1125
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: moved off DeVante Adams. The Chiefs went back to back

1126
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowls because of their quarterback. The Packers are a

1127
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: few plays away from the NFC Title Game with such

1128
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: a young team, so many unknown, you know, rookies and

1129
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: second year guys, because their quarterback, Jordan Love took a step.

1130
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Look what the Houston Texans did CJ. Stroud took them

1131
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: from second overall pick that had one of the longest

1132
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl odds to winning a playoff game last year.

1133
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: So to me, you can, you know, we can talk

1134
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: and fill an entire show on where the Bills are

1135
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 2: getting better here there, but the fact that they still

1136
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: have going into year seven, Josh Allen, I think, of

1137
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: course matters more than anything else. We can't forget about that.

1138
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure about exactly which week they

1139
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: made the offensive coordinator change. Last year. I can't remember.

1140
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: It was before the Jets game, all right, before the

1141
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: Jets home Jets game.

1142
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was a November nineteenth. There was probably

1143
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: November fourteenth, the Monday where they go in and they

1144
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: win against the Jets, then go to ot against Philly

1145
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: and then run the table the rest of the way.

1146
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: And if you look then and you go by Steph

1147
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Diggs charts.

1148
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't doing it. He was not Stefan Diggs that

1149
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: we had seen. Yeah, whether that was schematic or that

1150
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: was Stefan Diggs taking a step back, we don't know.

1151
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: But the Bills proved that they could win. They went

1152
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: seven to one if you count seven and two if

1153
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: you count the playoffs, without Stefan Diggs being the guy

1154
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: in the offense.

1155
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: Right, And that's and it was a long I mean,

1156
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: he had he was going up in the at the

1157
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: sin at Cincinnati, he had six catches on seven targets

1158
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: for eighty six yards in the touchdown, and then he

1159
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: had three catches, four catches. He had six catches against Philly.

1160
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: He had no one hundred yard games, right, So he

1161
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: was not the focal point of the offense. The Bills

1162
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: needed to be more diverse, and they certainly were and

1163
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: it worked. And again, I think that that was the

1164
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: final piece where I'm sure Brandon Bean wasn't like yay

1165
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: Let's trace trades Stefon Diggs, but oh, he's probably afraid

1166
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: of the unknown more than anyone as the GM of

1167
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: the Bills. But he said, well, actually, I just saw

1168
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: it with this coordinator, this quarterback, and now we can

1169
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: add some more people, some more cast of characters to

1170
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: this group with Khalil Shakir and don Kan Kaid and

1171
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: James Cook. He doesn't feel probably as nervous as he did,

1172
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, at the outside of the offseason before they

1173
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: signed all these games.

1174
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this, they did make some changes in the offense.

1175
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: They probably and listen, they never make these they never

1176
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: make these decisions for one reason and one reason only sure,

1177
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of voices that go into the

1178
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: final decision of if you're gonna let a guy like

1179
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs walk, even for trade.

1180
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure.

1181
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing anybody on the offensive

1182
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball standing on the table and saying

1183
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: we're if he's we don't have him, we're dead.

1184
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if down the stretch. Last year, the Bills

1185
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: tanked and hey, as Steph Diggs, you were reading off

1186
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: three catches, four catches, five catches, no one hundred yard games.

1187
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: If the offense tanked then they traded him, then absolutely

1188
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: I would be very concerned. But the fact that with

1189
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: a truncated offense, Joe Brady and Josh Allen were able

1190
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: and the run game the offensive line were able to

1191
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: really click again, I think that was the final nail

1192
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: in the coffin for them to say, all right, I

1193
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: think we can do this, because we don't want to

1194
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: have so many unknowns going into a next season.

1195
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: They don't, right, And that's all that being said. Now

1196
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: they've done it, and I think the guy that you

1197
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: know that that brought Keyon Coleman onto the table, who

1198
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: seems to be everything that he's been advertised to be,

1199
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: all the positive stuff he's been advertised to be. He's big,

1200
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: rangy athlete, right work ethic obviously, Pete, you know you

1201
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: love his personality. Seems to be one of those guys

1202
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: that you know, guys gonna be like, all right, let's

1203
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: let's go do this together. You know, they want to

1204
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: join with him, and Josh is is in the probably

1205
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the prime of his career, right,

1206
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean this guy and particularly now that with the

1207
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: changes and more that's gonna get put on his plate.

1208
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: Not not so much x's and o's and decisions and

1209
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: play calling and all that, but mostly about leadership and listen,

1210
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: is he's the guy now, it's his offense, it's it's

1211
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: his decisions. He's gonna have a bigger voice and a

1212
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: stronger voice in what Joe Brady puts in the game plan.

1213
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: Every starting quarterback does that. But now he's at a

1214
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: point in his career where he's gonna say, Okay, I

1215
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: don't like this, Look let's try this. You know how

1216
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: about this? It's really gonna be fun to see and

1217
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be an enjoyable year for Josh.

1218
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: We've seen him too, with snippets coming out when he's

1219
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: when he's not playing football, man he is. He gets

1220
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: away from it, he really does, and he recharges because

1221
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: once he comes in and training camp starts, Folks is

1222
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven zero and that I don't know

1223
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but it

1224
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: seems to be working for him.

1225
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm a big advocate of these players getting rest, especially

1226
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback like Josh Allen, who takes as many hits

1227
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: as he does and is so integral to what the

1228
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: Bills do offensively because of how he's a dual threat quarterback.

1229
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: We're talking about we're going to eighteen game schedule in

1230
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years. The Bills are, you know, getting

1231
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: to the playoffs every season, playing extra games. I would

1232
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: be concerned if Josh Allen was like, I've worked out,

1233
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: I've been running the hills all off season. He needs

1234
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: to recharge that body so he's you know, at one

1235
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: hundred percent, not in May, not in June, not to

1236
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: start a training camp, but when the season starts in September.

1237
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: That's right. So we're gonna wait and see. But I'm

1238
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: I am I'm with Barb in Holland. I'm I'm very

1239
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: high on this team.

1240
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 9: Now.

1241
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: They may, and I've said it all, just keep saying it.

1242
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: They may get off to a slow start because of

1243
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: all the new faces and all the youth and all

1244
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: the DA DA D D dad. But I'm telling you what,

1245
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: when they crescendo and get it on track, as they

1246
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: will this season, they're gonna be as good as any

1247
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: team this team's put together, this franchise has had under

1248
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. They're gonna be I think they're gonna be

1249
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: humming at the end of the season if their key

1250
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: people are all healthy and all of that. Sure, one

1251
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: other thing we wanted to talk about.

1252
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: How did I not say this in the open?

1253
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 3: Right?

1254
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: So the COO, the chief operating officer of the Buffalo

1255
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: Bills is Pee Gayley, and he came out and said, listen,

1256
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: we want we want the Draft in twenty twenty eight.

1257
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: We want it in Buffalo. How about it. We're gonna

1258
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: have a brand spanking new stadium. We're gonna be all

1259
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: set up for it. You know, Bills fans will turn

1260
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: out and in a big way for that thousands. It's

1261
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna how what about it? And we you could kind

1262
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: of feel like, listen, you see Detroit getting it and

1263
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: blessed her. They pulled it off. The Kudo home run,

1264
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City did it, home run Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, Cleveland.

1265
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: They've all done an outstanding job. There's no way the

1266
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo couldn't pull that off. It's They've got the great

1267
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: a great venue for it, a brand new stadium. Yeah,

1268
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any way this is that

1269
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: this is not gonna happen. Certainly, the Buffalo is a

1270
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: is a rough choice for like one of the if

1271
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: they're traveling Super Bowl around, because you know, February, we

1272
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: live here, we know better, and you know, we're like, yeah, okay, fine,

1273
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: we'll take the draft.

1274
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: It's gotten. It's become a huge event. There was a

1275
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: couple hundred thousand in Detroit.

1276
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: In Detroit, there were estimates that said there was like

1277
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: three quarters of a million people down there. Wow, all

1278
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: and they had drone shots and it was frightening how

1279
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: many people were there. Seriously, it was like wall to wall,

1280
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder people for like hundreds and hundreds of

1281
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: yards in all directions. I don't know how you get

1282
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: in there and then think about getting out. Almost scary

1283
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: but cool.

1284
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Green Bay next year, and then in

1285
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, Pittsburgh has already been awarded the twenty

1286
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: twenties NFL drafts. So like you're mentioning, it's not a

1287
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: matter of climate or weather, and.

1288
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: I'll say this, you don't want it in twenty twenty six,

1289
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: when the Bills move into the new port. No, get

1290
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: let let's blow the bugs out of.

1291
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: It for a minute or even the next year in

1292
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: twenty seven, traffic.

1293
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: Patterns all that, you know, Let's get to know our

1294
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: new building first.

1295
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: And then have And what I wonder, what was really

1296
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: as like someone who lives here in the area, I'm

1297
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: excited for. I feel like the bills, like you're saying,

1298
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: they're not asking for twenty twenty seven, which would be

1299
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: like the end of the first years. It would be

1300
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: the year after twenty twenty eight that the bills are

1301
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: probably either anticipating or they already know of the industry

1302
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: that is going to come with this construction of the

1303
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: new stadium, new restaurants, new bars. I mean, Orchard Park

1304
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: is great, Hamburg is great too, downtown, but out here

1305
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: by the stadium to get a few more maybe a

1306
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: hotel or to a few more restaurants, bars, and just

1307
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: for these seven hundred and fifty thousand people.

1308
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ground over there at acc across

1309
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: the road where they're building the new stadium. And I

1310
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: got to say this too, I'm I'm here every day,

1311
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: but I come in off of twenty A two nineteen.

1312
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: People who know bills fans know the place. I come

1313
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: in off the twenty A and drive around the back

1314
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: of the of the neighborhood there. Yes, right, you know,

1315
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not on abbot at all. And we have

1316
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: friends and guests in town this weekend and it took

1317
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: them to the bills store right across from his dam,

1318
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, you can tell, because I

1319
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: you can tell. And pretty soon before the season starts,

1320
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have the thing circled in instead.

1321
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna mean it's gonna be high, and.

1322
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: Not not as high as it's gonna be, but they're

1323
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna have it fully circled and steel, and you're gonna

1324
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: be able to go over there and look and see

1325
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: moving quick the you know, the skeleton of that stadium,

1326
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: and how intimate it's gonna be. That's the thing that

1327
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: strikes you. Yeah, you're gonna be sitting right.

1328
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: On top of it, and I'm yeah. So I'm just

1329
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: excited to see how much more commerce there is around,

1330
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: not just in the town of Orchard Park like Main Street,

1331
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: but around this new stadium. I think there will be

1332
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: a lot of businesses that will be giddy to get

1333
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: close to the stadium put it. They need to put

1334
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: a couple of hotels over sure, I think.

1335
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: And they got space for it, yes, And we've got

1336
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean the space for the old The old stadium

1337
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: is going to become a parking lot, just like old

1338
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: Giant Stadium and stuff. We're going to be parking over there.

1339
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: So and I assume that if if the Bills Pete

1340
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: Wailey are sending this proposal to the league, it they

1341
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 2: have an idea of how they're going to run things.

1342
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: It's not just hey, we want to host the draft,

1343
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: but we don't really know logistical.

1344
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. They need some time because they

1345
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: got it. They don't even know what the building is

1346
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: going to look like, traffic flow, what it's going to be.

1347
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: How you know, they have some ideas, all the finishing

1348
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: touches that need to come come together to get them

1349
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: on it. I'm I think it's pretty I'm pretty excited

1350
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm even more excited. And people have

1351
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: been talking about the schedule released video that Josh did

1352
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: down in the pit and I made a late entrance

1353
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: into that thing. I was down in that thing and

1354
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: it is it's a tall right, it's kind of thrilling

1355
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: to be down inside there watching these guys because they're busy.

1356
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: It's like four hundred guys down there, crawling everywhere, and

1357
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: they are and that you can tell. It's one of

1358
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: those things like they all got stuff they're doing. It's

1359
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: not they're not stay. This ain't a union job. They're

1360
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: not standing around leading against them, and you are busy.

1361
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: And then you mentioned that you were just saying that

1362
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: I think by the start of the season we'll have the.

1363
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: Entire It looks like that to me. I don't know,

1364
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that.

1365
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, once they you've heard that. Once they have

1366
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: the outside mostly done, when they're working on the inside,

1367
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: it's gonna like triple Yeah, it's.

1368
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: Gonna be like twelve hundred people in there every day,

1369
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: and I mean that's gonna gonna go fast. Yeah, So

1370
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: that's it's it's very exciting to go over there and

1371
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: check that out, particularly on days like today when it's

1372
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: nice and sunny out. It's it's crazy how fast they were.

1373
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: This is four years in advance. But I'm hoping that

1374
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: certainly that Buffalo gets this draft, but that during the

1375
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: telecast they don't just continually show Niagara Falls Niagara Falls.

1376
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot more in Buffalo besides Niagra Falls. They

1377
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: used to do that back in the day when the

1378
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: Bill rate. We're on primetime during the drought, which was

1379
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: not very often, show Downtown Buffalo, show the Skyline Show,

1380
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: you know, or Richard Park.

1381
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. It always strikes me, and it's

1382
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: going to do it this time too. This coming season,

1383
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty fourth season, when Josh Allen the Bills

1384
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: come out in high Mark and they're playing the game,

1385
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: it's the next to the last season in that stadium.

1386
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: Has not hit me up.

1387
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: It is the next to the last season. They got

1388
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: like two more seasons. They got like eighteen games in there.

1389
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: That's it.

1390
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's all it's going to be,

1391
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be over. We're coming down to it,

1392
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. And now they're out there practicing. They

1393
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: were out there.

1394
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: Practicing today, close practice, closed practice.

1395
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: Uh, and a ton of ton of dudes out there

1396
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: running around and they're going to continue this all through

1397
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: this week. I think they're going Monday through Thursday. I

1398
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: think they're giving the guys Fridays off. Yep, seems like

1399
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, and then next week is

1400
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: the mandatory mini cam. Everybody's got to be in, so

1401
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: every single game intensity a little bit will come in

1402
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: and they'll start playing and playing hard. That's uh, that's

1403
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: kind of fun to think about. Trent's gonna be at

1404
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher again. Every year. We have this conversation

1405
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: and I tell people who ask me the same thing,

1406
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, how long because they've got a facility here

1407
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: that's amazing the NFL. It's really good. Housing is a

1408
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: problem for this facility here. Like we said, there's no

1409
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: hotels around here. But I think as long as Sean

1410
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: McDermott is here and Brandon Bean is here, they get

1411
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot out of taking the team and moving it

1412
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: to Rochester, all the stuff that goes into it. They

1413
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: don't stay there very long. They last year longer, right, Well,

1414
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: it's always been longer. It's getting shorter and shorter. But

1415
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: what they do is they spend that first two weeks

1416
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: of training camp over there, and then the first preseason

1417
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: game or the home game they come back here and

1418
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: then the rest of camp is here. They get a

1419
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: lot out of it. But Saint John Fisher is going

1420
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: to hold host the bills again this year. That's gonna

1421
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: be fun to get over there. We did. I think

1422
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: we did like eleven shows total from training camp last year,

1423
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: because you know, you go through that first week. You

1424
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: five shows the first week, four shows the second week

1425
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: because the last day of the week they're traveling and

1426
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: where we do the show from here and then then

1427
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: they're back that they're back. Yeah, we do a couple

1428
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: of maybe after that, but then then they're back here.

1429
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: And Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean and I remember over

1430
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: the years and I usually stop out there a few

1431
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: times over the summer always mentioned and it's why I

1432
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: said this, the camaraderie that you kind of have, like

1433
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: going away to camp where so many new pieces. Maybe

1434
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: it's more important this year than it has been in

1435
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: the past, not only a ten player rookie class, but

1436
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: all the new pieces to get to know each other,

1437
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: to spend the time in the dorm rooms like you're

1438
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: back in college. I think that will be really good

1439
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: and important for this team to get away just for

1440
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: those two weeks before really ramping.

1441
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: Up for the season. It's fun too. I mean, you know,

1442
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: you go out there, it'sford's great to Pittsford's great. The

1443
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: fans have been great to the team. I think that

1444
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: they've been going over there for twenty plus years and

1445
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: it's been a home run since since day one.

1446
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: And how about the golf in that area. There's there's

1447
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 2: plenty of golf.

1448
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: And I'm way too busy to play it. Now we're

1449
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna take We got one call, get well really quick.

1450
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: We're gona talk to Rick in Denver before we go

1451
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: to break. Rick, you're out with Chris and Steve.

1452
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 6: Go ahead, hey, guys, Yeah, real quick comment on Tua. Look,

1453
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 6: there's a big difference between being two ten and one

1454
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 6: ninety defensive line. I think it was a Cincinnati game

1455
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 6: where he got spun around and slammed to the turf.

1456
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 6: I don't care how much jiu jitsu he does, it's

1457
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 6: not gonna help him. I think it's a huge mistake

1458
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 6: to lose that much weight. The question I have for

1459
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 6: you guys is on Josh Allen. I'd love to see

1460
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 6: percentages where he's throwing with the route concept and completing

1461
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 6: it as a result of the zign of the play

1462
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 6: versus scrambling and getting open. I may it may be

1463
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 6: one of the reasons why they're going with these bigger

1464
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 6: receivers that are six four bigger catch ratiuses, and even

1465
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 6: if they're covered, they have the ability, obviously with smaller

1466
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 6: dbs to beat them. And I've never really seen a

1467
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: percentage breakdown as far as him throwing in rhythm versus

1468
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: you know, scrambling, and I would expect that the scrambling

1469
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 6: is much higher than throwing well in design of the

1470
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 6: route context.

1471
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: I doubt that. I doubt that it's higher, but I

1472
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: think it's higher than other quarterbacks.

1473
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: Yes, it's probably near the top of it.

1474
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: He beats he can beat you from the pocket, and

1475
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: he does it consistently. He's he makes throws from the

1476
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: pocket a ton. The thing that makes Josh different is

1477
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: there's never any play where you're he's out of it,

1478
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And thanks for the call work.

1479
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: I think Josh has more plays that he makes something

1480
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: out of nothing than other quarterbacks do. Certainly Lamar does that,

1481
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes does it, uh, but nobody does it like Josh

1482
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: out He almost he never takes a bad play. He's

1483
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: hard to sack. He's he's sacked fewer than any other

1484
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. He has the ability, and I

1485
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: say this all the time, he has the ability to

1486
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: turn the perfect defensive call into a touchdown, which is rare.

1487
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: It's rare, and you have seen time and time again

1488
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: Robert Salah and Vic Fangio and all these coordinators around

1489
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: the league are standing over there checking for rain because

1490
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: they just got they had the perfect call on and

1491
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: they got beat for a touchdown, not just a good

1492
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: player a first down, a touchdown after making the perfect

1493
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: defensive call. Josh has that ability. So while he does

1494
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: beat you from the pocket enough to win a ton

1495
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: of games, like you said, his scrambling ability tilts the

1496
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: playing field in a big way for the Buffalo Bills.

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: That's why it's been like three years it's been since

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: the regular season Indianapolis game in Buffalo where they got

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: beat like forty five twelve. That's how long ago it

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: has been since the Bills have been beaten by more

1501
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: than one possession.

1502
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: Insane, that's how long it's been.

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: So in the regular season, I think Cincinnati game. I

1504
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: think Cincinnati beaten by ten in that game here in

1505
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo after the Damar incident. But they just don't beat

1506
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: him like that. That's that's Josh to me, that's Josh.

1507
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a huge asset. And while yes, he does make

1508
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: more plays outside of the pocket, that's because the offense

1509
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: gets more plays. He has fewer throwaways, and he has

1510
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 1: that ability to keep there's no play that's dead or hopeless.

1511
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: So I think he has more of those plays than

1512
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: anybody else. I don't think his I don't think he

1513
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: beats you with those plays first more than he beats

1514
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: you from the pocket.

1515
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: Yep. I totally agree with that. And to me, the

1516
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 2: one thing I'll say on this is, let's see if

1517
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: the Bills are better with their yards after the catch

1518
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: this season, because if they are, Josh Allen will be

1519
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: more apt to get out of his hands quickly. Let Shakir,

1520
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: Samuel Kincaye, Chase Claypool, the running backs get out and run,

1521
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: because that has been a little bit of a grip

1522
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: that I've had over the last couple of years that

1523
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: it's been a little bit too much of Josh Allen

1524
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: improving outside of the or improvising outside of structure.

1525
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break. Judy from Buffalo,

1526
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: hang on, we'll get to you right after the break.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: Chris Trepasso, Steve Tasker on One Bill's Live. This is

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steve

1529
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: Tasker and Chris Rapasso. We're going to start by taking

1530
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: a phone call from our friend of the show, Judy

1531
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Judy, how are you? Thanks for calling. This

1532
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: is Chris and Steve. What's on your mind?

1533
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 10: Thank you? This is over of a question from left field.

1534
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 10: But I understand that Kean Coleman is training with some

1535
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 10: sort of a receivers guru outside of the realm of

1536
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 10: the Bills. I remember that Josh Allen sought help developing

1537
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 10: his skills with Carts and Palmer's brother at quarterback camps.

1538
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 10: If so, our players and kurs do this, and if so,

1539
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 10: who bears the cost? Does the player pay for this?

1540
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 10: Do the Bills reimburse them?

1541
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 3: What is it?

1542
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 10: What is the situation in that respect?

1543
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: All right, that's good question, and here's what I'll tell you. Yeah,

1544
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: that's on the players dime and Keon Coleman is training

1545
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: also with t Higgins, who's a good receiver for them.

1546
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, I'm sorry not to Ceedee Lamb is his cousin.

1547
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: They're they're training with guys who are known commodities as coaches.

1548
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: And yes, it's on his dime. He's paying the guy players.

1549
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: Uh are expected or not? Yeah, well they are. They're

1550
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: expected to stay in shape in the off season. Uh,

1551
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: they're professional athletes and they're expected to act like it.

1552
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: And most of the guys at least want to appear

1553
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: like they want to get better. Right, some of you're

1554
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: a rookie, right. The good guys, like we talked about

1555
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, The good guys aren't motivated by

1556
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: the money. They're motivated motivated by the respect to their

1557
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: peers and how good their stats are and how much yeah,

1558
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: how good they are. They want to They're motivated by

1559
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: the fame. They want to be legendary, they want to

1560
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: be great, they want to be tough out, they want

1561
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: to be all of those things. And to get there,

1562
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: they know they got to work hard. So yeah, they

1563
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: spend their own money, They travel on their own dime,

1564
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: They go to wherever it takes to be coached up

1565
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: by a guy who has a reputation for being able

1566
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: to get the most out of people.

1567
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: And it's not super unusual to see whether it be

1568
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: a rookie like Ken Coleman we know Eric Molds is

1569
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: working with Khalil Shakir for the second offseason. Younger players

1570
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: that don't have seven eight years of wear and tear

1571
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL on their bodies that are spending you know,

1572
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: March April May working out before they're back here.

1573
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: Now.

1574
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: Normally once you get again into year seven or eight,

1575
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: then you're taking it easy. But it's pretty it's I

1576
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: don't want to say it's common where every rookie wide

1577
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 2: receiver has his own wide receiver coach, but usually, like

1578
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: you're saying, the smart ones eyes.

1579
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: Working with Eric Moles. Eric Molds is working with Khalil

1580
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: Shakir and has been for a couple of years. Yes,

1581
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: And it's on Josh to go out and work with

1582
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, not I mean Jordan Palmer. Carson's brother. Jordan

1583
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: is a well respected quarterback coach and knowledgeable guy with

1584
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: great techniques about how to get quarterbacks to get the

1585
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: right technique to hit a touch pass, to hit the

1586
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: long ball, to you know, their fit, foot work, their release,

1587
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: their their everything, their throwing motion and work with all

1588
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: of it from soup to nuts. There are other guys too,

1589
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: I know Phil Simms does it for young quarterbacks. A

1590
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: former colleague of min at CBS. He works in He

1591
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: was a quarterback, you know, with the Giants forever Super

1592
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: Bowl winner. He has guys that he were really young

1593
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 1: players and he works with. Most of them are college

1594
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: age guys who are aspiring to be pros. But you know,

1595
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: obviously Jordan Palmer's working with Josh and a bunch of

1596
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: other guys about getting them better. And you can bet

1597
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes has a guy he goes to, Herbert has

1598
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: a guy he goes to, Trevor Lawrence has a guy

1599
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: he goes to, and yes, it's all on their dime,

1600
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: and you can bet they you'd be looked at a

1601
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: little bit sideways if you somebody found out and said

1602
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: that you're just out there throwing through a tire by yourself,

1603
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: you know.

1604
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: In this day and age, in this day and age.

1605
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: What's so fascinating to me about that is and I

1606
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: think this could certainly come to fruition with Kean Coleman.

1607
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: When Josh Allen was coming into the league. You mentioned

1608
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: Jordan Palmer when the Bill, when he got here to

1609
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo and started working with Jordan Palmer, they were almost

1610
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: like shocked at Oh my god, he's never really been

1611
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: coached on the mechanics. He did all this at Wyoming,

1612
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: and this could be the case for Kean Coleman at

1613
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: Michigan State and Florida State. You come to practice, you

1614
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 2: produce great the nuances, like you're saying, being a professional athlete,

1615
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 2: they like, I don't want to say they changed how

1616
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen threw the football, but he was like leaning

1617
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: away from some passes. His footwork was not good. He

1618
01:21:56,200 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: got that truly professional specialized quarterback coach, and then he

1619
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: became an elite quarterback. They could find things right now

1620
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: working with Ceedee Lamb for key On Clomb or hey,

1621
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: you try to beat press coverage like this, This is

1622
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: not how they do it in the pros. Maybe in

1623
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: the acc it works, but learning those intricacies I think

1624
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: is vital for some of these young players.

1625
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: They tried to We've been back in the day a

1626
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: few years ago. We used to have Jordan Palmer on

1627
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: every year. We may have him on this offseason. If

1628
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: Josh is working with him or whatever. He'll tell you.

1629
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: Jordan will say, listen, I'm not here to circumvent the

1630
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff of the Bills because and back in the

1631
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: day when day Ball was here, Jordan Palmer would have

1632
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: conversations with Brian Dable about here's what we're working on,

1633
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: here's what I'd like to see him do, Da Da da,

1634
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: and Jordan's say okay, I got cha, got you And

1635
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: he talked to Josh here yes. So it was an

1636
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: extension of the own their own coaching staff here, and

1637
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: Jordan was very in tune because he didn't want to

1638
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: circumvent or or or sabotage anything Brian da Ball was

1639
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: doing with Josh. You wanted to help it and enhance

1640
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: it so that when Josh came back, they were steps

1641
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: ahead of where they were when he left in March

1642
01:22:58,760 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: or January, wherever it was.

1643
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: And because of the CBA, there's only so much time

1644
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: that these teams can be hands on with their players, right, So,

1645
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: like I'm saying, early on, when you were twenty eighteen,

1646
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Josh Allen or twenty twenty four Khalil Shakir

1647
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: or in this case Ken Coleman entering his rookie season,

1648
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Bills they're coaching staff. The front office

1649
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, go find a specialist and work on

1650
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: your craft, so you come here because we can't have

1651
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: two of days like we did with Steve Tasker in

1652
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: the nineties. It needs to be you know, there's just

1653
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: not a lot that they can do with them. So

1654
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: I think that can certainly help speed along that maturation

1655
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: process for these.

1656
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: We'll take one more call before the break, Glenn and

1657
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 1: new thing. Glenn, go ahead, you're on with Chris and Steve.

1658
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: Well, just glad to be able to get on today

1659
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 3: on this beautiful day. You guys were talking about the

1660
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: the most improved groups. I guess you would call it

1661
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 3: on the team, and I would agree that the receiving

1662
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: group would be much improved, and not just so much

1663
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: because of Diggs and Davis's lower reception numbers, because I

1664
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 3: can't think that we would put that just on the receivers.

1665
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, the play calling, the quarterbacking, everything goes

1666
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 3: into that. I'm going to have my nephew change my

1667
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: Alan Diggs sign, take the Digs off and put there's

1668
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: if I can fit like nine more names right there,

1669
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: that's perfect. Samuel Coleman, Shakir mvs Claypool, Shorter, Shavers, even

1670
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: Isabella Hollis. I'm like a little confused on how this

1671
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 3: is all going to shake out. But I would say, man,

1672
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: oh man, this is a group that I thought, oh no,

1673
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: we might not be able to make the playoffs this year,

1674
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: Like two months ago. In NASCAR, they call this the

1675
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: silly season because you sit around watching TV and speculat

1676
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: and worrying there's no real football going on. Well, you

1677
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: guys all talk in football. It's like, man, oh man,

1678
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm ready to put my head through the wall. Let's

1679
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: get some football going. I would say the receiving and

1680
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 3: probably secondly would be the running back group with Ray

1681
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: Davis in there, this and Gore Junior. Oh my gosh,

1682
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 3: you got Ty Johnson coming back. This is going to

1683
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 3: be very exciting. But here's here's just one last thing.

1684
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: I believe having been in the Army, they taught us

1685
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: that attention to detail is imperative for success. And watching

1686
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, I go on YouTube and

1687
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 3: I end up watching the games back over and over

1688
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: again and looking at you know, stupid crap that probably

1689
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 3: nobody else looks at, mistackles, the little things mistackle, a

1690
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 3: catch you could have made. At the end of a game,

1691
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 3: all I can think about is the errors and that's

1692
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: what comes with a team that's not nippicking, that's a

1693
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: team that is this good. You can look at what

1694
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: am I going to improve and it's not really the

1695
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: big things. You seem to be doing a lot of

1696
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 3: the big things. Well, it's the small things. It's the

1697
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: little like a mistackle somebody doesn't wrap up, and those

1698
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: all add up to big things in my opinion.

1699
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeap, Glenn, that's right. Thanks for the call, Glenn, appreciate you.

1700
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: You're right. This wide receiver group may be more of

1701
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: a group than it was with Steph Diggs at the

1702
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: top of the heat. You may get a little bit

1703
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: more even distribution of targets and catches across a room.

1704
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: And while you may not have a fourteen hundred yard

1705
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this group, you may have four guys

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Speaker 1: with between eight hundred and one thousand or nine hundred

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: and eleven hundred. That would be nice. That's probably that's

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01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: probably a been on the on the outside possibilities. That's

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01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: a little bit too much, but you get my point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, between seventy fifty and one thousand. That makes it

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01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: more difficult for a defense, right, like too, we have

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Speaker 2: so many names. You've read them off before there's like

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Speaker 2: thirteen receivers on the roster. What I like is especially

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Speaker 2: so many that are similarly sized, just quickly on this

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01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: that the competition in training camp will kind of weed out,

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01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: Like if mvs just can't can't do it, or Chase

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01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: Klaypool is so good that they have to keep him

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01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: over someone else. I like that they've just thrown a

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: bunch of darts at the receiver spot and the competition

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01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: will ultimately, you know, allow the cream to kind of

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: rise to the top, you know, behind the guys that

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 2: we know are going to get the targets like Khalil Shakir,

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01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel and Dalonkin Kaid.

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Speaker 1: More to come. We got one final segment before the

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01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: top of the hour Steve Tasher Christapasso. We're going to

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Speaker 1: take a break. One Bill's Live presented by Colide Help.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One of

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're gonna finish things up with the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: We asked you where have the Bills improved from last season?

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01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: From Tommy says, the running back room is improved. Cornerbacks

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01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: need to be shored up. Linebackers looking good from Joey.

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01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: He says the linebacker room having to tell a J.

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01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Klein to come guard Travis Kelsey in the playoffs on

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01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: two weeks notice must have been a nightmare. Now I

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01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: feel like the Bills have at least five guys in

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01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: that room that could be starters. Joseph says, safety, O

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: line depth and running back room. All three will be

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Speaker 1: top ten in the NFL by the end of the season.

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01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: And once again from Houseman time, linebacker depth is way

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: better than it was last year. Also better depth at

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01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And this jia Vanni says, dare I say

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. That's the big one we'll see going on

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01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: and it it really does remain to be seen because

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01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: there are some unknowns with this roster the way it stands.

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Right, I just want to see who rises to the top.

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01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: Is it mvs? Is it Chase Claypool, is Dorian Williams

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01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: looking like a man possessed? And you know, there's so

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01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: many pieces that we will see. Some guys will not

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: ultimately turn out, but we will see a few players

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01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: that will play as well or better than expected in

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 2: training camp to earn either starting jobs or you know,

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01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,440
Speaker 2: key contributor roles this season.

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Speaker 1: A lot to be a lot to be, no, but

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: they've got some guys. They've got some big dudes and

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01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: some really strong athletes coming in to compete. Tomorrow. Maddy

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01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: glab is gonna be in for me. They're gonna have

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01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: practice and the media is gonna be able to watch,

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01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: so we'll have some player interviews post practice. Come back

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Speaker 1: and join us again at one. Steve Tasker, Christ Prasso, Chris,

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01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: thanks for coming in. Enjoy the beautiful day, everybody. Another

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Speaker 1: start to a big week. We'll have players sound tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: He