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Speaker 2: We're going to get into another component of the Brewers

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Speaker 2: Cups game from yesterday, but I didn't even see this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of weirdness yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into Dennis Santana against the fan later. We'll

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Speaker 2: get there. Actually, we're not going to get into this

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Speaker 2: because it's just but who got hit? Sorry Biggie Hunter big. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's not much to say besides obviously thinking about him.

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Speaker 2: And I was watching that one live. Yeah, I was,

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Speaker 4: That was going to be that strong dude.

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Speaker 3: They're strong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean it's obviously good hitters throw their bat.

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Speaker 3: Ye John was high. So a fan did this? This

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all like Oh, so he

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Speaker 3: They brought and brought him back. Then they brought him back.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he was ready for l s U Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: look like talked in with shorts. That's why I was like, pants, Oh,

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's the business person special at lunch.

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Speaker 2: See to me, I'm like, you know, like I worked

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Speaker 3: They're at the game, they're sitting there like that.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Brewers beat reporter Kurt Hogue with us

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Speaker 2: back on FT. Kurt, good to see you. How's life

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Speaker 2: cover in the Brewers right now? Give us the goods?

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Speaker 2: Which juicy with this team?

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Speaker 1: Well, the team is playing pretty well the last three

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Speaker 1: The Cubs are really goods, so they haven't made up

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Speaker 1: a ton of ground there. They're back in the wild

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Speaker 1: So life is good?

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Speaker 4: All right? Well, well tell me about that. Tell me

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Speaker 4: Man from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: As well as Funny Kratz. I talked to him. I

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Speaker 1: no evidence of this. We don't have MLB TV archives

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Speaker 1: to ninety six, A least I don't. And he said

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Speaker 3: Him, ninety six was about thirty years ago.

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Speaker 4: That's what I mean. He looked like he was maybe

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Speaker 4: So maybe he's a Brewers fan coming down.

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Speaker 1: To not a Brewers fan, No, not a Brewis fan.

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Speaker 4: That's why I dressed weird, because he was kind of

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Speaker 3: Really, you're going after the Cubs. I guess you can.

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Speaker 1: I'm not commentating on that.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Brewer. Oh I read that in your article

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Speaker 4: that you didn't like.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Freddy Peralta could get traded? Like?

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Speaker 2: What's the percentage chance that Freddy Peralta gets traded this season?

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Speaker 1: I like it on the spot, I'll go to the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people around the Brewers and in important

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Speaker 4: First of all, no, I wasn't on the team yet.

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Speaker 4: He made his debut against the Rockies and struck out.

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Speaker 4: So how could they do it differently?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit too that Brewers fans and maybe

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Speaker 6: I want to stick on Pat Murphy a little bit, man.

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Speaker 6: This guy has been really good manager. He's been a

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Speaker 4: Was there some like did did Murph need a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A little bit of cooling off. He he had a

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Speaker 1: we gave him, We gave we walked in, we gave

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Speaker 1: we knew what we were asking. And he did not

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Speaker 1: You're the one that said they were radic I didn't

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Speaker 1: it was. He said the un bluesom calls late in

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Speaker 3: Yep, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take us in a different direction. I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you about a couple of young players

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Speaker 2: me what you're seeing. Jackson Cheerio not having a bad

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Numbers are from what I judge a tick down on

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Speaker 2: the offensive side of things. And then William Contreras was

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Speaker 2: So what's the story with those two.

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Speaker 1: Well, the story with both of those two is they're

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Speaker 1: It's very understandable. He's been playing through a pretty serious

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Speaker 1: also like adjusted pretty well to centerfield. I think that's

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Speaker 1: He hadn't played there in the big leagues before. He

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Speaker 4: Do you have any injury updates for us on aforementioned

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Speaker 4: Garrett Mitchell and Big Wu. Big Wu leaving his last

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Speaker 1: But do you have any updates big Woo? Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: That'll be exciting for I think anyone that knows him,

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Speaker 1: rehabing a triple A right now. Could see him back

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Speaker 4: Could be a shot in the arm, could take a

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Speaker 4: maybe that'll relax him a little bit. Who knows. The

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Speaker 4: Brewers could make a little run here. But I got

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Speaker 4: a question for you. You know, the twenty five year

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Speaker 4: Brown's gonna be. So should I not come to it?

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Speaker 4: Because they might ask Yasmani Grandal to come in my

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Speaker 1: Well, a Kratz, you have to come. You guys should

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Speaker 1: but you guysoud do a live show in Milwaukee for it,

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Speaker 1: must have been an oversight. Sorry, I wasn't on the

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Speaker 4: Competition, Look, Kurt, I am all about I am all

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Speaker 4: about competitions and like stuff at like the All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: If they have a framing competition, I might change the channel.

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Speaker 3: You would be a one and done because then you

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Speaker 3: have the challenge system next year.

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Speaker 4: It's still the framing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know you can frame others.

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Speaker 4: It's just not gonna be as valuable. I think John

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Speaker 4: Carlos Stanton's gonna start catching when they bring them robot homes.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he'll just sit on a chair.

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Speaker 4: He'll just both knees down, just be down to block

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Speaker 4: the ball and catch it and throw them out at second.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: They might allow you to have a chair at that point.

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Speaker 2: You can sit in a chair and just catch it

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