Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, put your
Speaker 1: detective hats on and get out your comically oversized magnifying glasses,
Speaker 1: because we are getting to the bottom of some viral
Speaker 1: animal stories. Are these real animals, real behaviors or hogwash? Wait?
Speaker 1: What even is hogwash? Is it like mouthwash for hogs? Anyways?
Speaker 1: From deep sea War of the World's Aliens to long
Speaker 1: ducks to kissing carp We're taking on the internet rumors
Speaker 1: and separating fact from fishing fiction fishing discover this more
Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question, are ravens jerks
Speaker 1: are just a little cow? Callus how never, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Joining me today to debunk some junk are the hosts
Speaker 1: of the dog podcast Dog His Own nine thousand, Robert
Speaker 1: Brockway and Sean Baby. Yeah. Hey, thanks for having us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Welcome Sunday Sunday Sunday then Dogs Zone. Um. When we
Speaker 1: were on our friend Alex Schmitty's podcast, I wrote him
Speaker 1: a theme song and I I did the same for
Speaker 1: you if you'd like it. Oh, yes, Okay, it goes
Speaker 1: like this. You gotta indulge me. Um okay, I feel
Speaker 1: of breath on my face about it close to me.
Speaker 1: I can't look in her eyes. She's out of my league.
Speaker 1: Just a fool to believe I have anything she needs,
Speaker 1: creature feature, an original composition, you do? Oh the Estate
Speaker 1: of Patrick Swayze twenty three dollars, and I don't. I
Speaker 1: like to think myself as the weird al of animal science. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew it would be come time to pay the
Speaker 1: piper at some point, specifically to get you sued. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Swazie and I we have some unfinished business already.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate that. That's a great theme song. When
Speaker 1: I went on your podcast and the Dog Zone, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're you guys made me play
Speaker 1: a game. It's true, You're you're twisted little game where
Speaker 1: I guessed whether comic book heroes and villains were real
Speaker 1: or not. And it was based on your specialty. Though yeah,
Speaker 1: it was based on the animals. Didn't really help me any.
Speaker 1: So you're in. Now you're in. You're in my territory,
Speaker 1: and I want you guys to play. My little game
Speaker 1: is based on art specialties. Yeah, is it about karate?
Speaker 1: And nope? It is just revenge? Really? Uh so you know, okay, joy,
Speaker 1: that is Broadway specialty. Yeah, I mean you're targeting me, right,
Speaker 1: I love revenge. Let's go. It doesn't even matter that
Speaker 1: it's at me. I'm a forgiveness man. Forgiveness man for
Speaker 1: many generations, punk total total for three generations, forgiveness man
Speaker 1: for six Oh just a note, you guys swear words.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I just when I'm editing it, I quack
Speaker 1: it out and put like a little duck quack over it. Okay,
Speaker 1: that sounds adorable. I swear as much as possible. No,
Speaker 1: please don't. I'll just say quack instead of the total
Speaker 1: quack for three generations. We just take the whole things
Speaker 1: on the top. Everybody reset, We'll do the whole thing. No, no,
Speaker 1: don't quack yourself. Oh my god, we've we literally haven't started,
Speaker 1: and you're already tired of our outrageousness. And you have
Speaker 1: to put a penny in the swear jar. All right,
Speaker 1: just down to a penny these all right? I can
Speaker 1: afford that that is Those are promising rights. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you guys, I have provided you with a document, and
Speaker 1: inside of this document there are pictures of animals or
Speaker 1: even moving pictures of animals. And I will ask you
Speaker 1: a question, and I want you guys to really think
Speaker 1: about it. Don't google, don't cheat, don't look at the
Speaker 1: encyclopedia that you have next to you, and just try
Speaker 1: to use your intuition to guess whether or not these
Speaker 1: things are real animals, a hoax, or somewhere in between,
Speaker 1: which is definitely the case for some of these things.
Speaker 1: So the first one is this very spooky video of
Speaker 1: what appears to be a deep sea alien. So could you,
Speaker 1: fellas describe what you're seeing here? Sure, sort of like
Speaker 1: a like a squid with sort of dangly human puppet
Speaker 1: let eggs. And then very very long like war the
Speaker 1: World's alien, like very Independence Day. Bad guy vibe to
Speaker 1: that area, and he's kind of taper off like like
Speaker 1: a total quack, Like he's got total quack legs, uh,
Speaker 1: just whispy useless things drifting around in the depths of
Speaker 1: the ocean trying to figure out I'm just gonna spend
Speaker 1: the whole time trying to figure out which swear you're intending.
Speaker 1: He looks like he's embarrassed to be himself. If I'm
Speaker 1: being honest, like whatever deep sub found him, He's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I wasn't ready to be photographed, like Caulu
Speaker 1: night vision esque. He's like seven million years of evolution
Speaker 1: away from being ready to be photographed. This thing is
Speaker 1: a mess. Yeah, it needs some work. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: basically looks like a weird War of the World's thing.
Speaker 1: This like almost like a virus, Uh, close up of
Speaker 1: a virus, but like elongated into real life like a
Speaker 1: giant virus. Yeah. If I had an estimated size with
Speaker 1: no like context clues or atmospheric perspective, I'd say, like three,
Speaker 1: this thing looks like it's just long for for miles.
Speaker 1: It's got squid stilts. Yeah, it looks it looks building sized.
Speaker 1: But what do you guys think? Is this a hoax?
Speaker 1: Is it real? Is it embellished truth? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Is it aliens? It's got super hoaxy camera work? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then what does he zip off? Is am I
Speaker 1: led to believe? He zips off at the speed of Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is fake? I think the camera zips away and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm already cheating just with my massive brain. This
Speaker 1: is the Big Finn squid, right, and they this was
Speaker 1: from the deep so oil rig that's right, Yes, I wrote,
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote about this. I told you to
Speaker 1: leave your brain there. I try, but it haunts me.
Speaker 1: But yes, so I'm sorry Sean. It is not a hoax.
Speaker 1: And congratulations Wing dominated right out the gate. So we've
Speaker 1: got one point for Robert negative two points for Sean. Yes, badly,
Speaker 1: badly you guessed. Yeah, this is the Big Finn squid
Speaker 1: or Magna Pinas squid. They are an exceedingly rarely spotted squid.
Speaker 1: In fact, we've never actually collected a specimen of the squid.
Speaker 1: Only larvae and juveniles have actually been studied. Adult sightings
Speaker 1: have been reported, but no adult specimen has ever been collected,
Speaker 1: and we can only really guess that these sightings of
Speaker 1: these weird, giant alien looking things are probably the adult
Speaker 1: versions of the Big Finn squid. But when they suck
Speaker 1: this hard, does it matter? Like like if you're swimming
Speaker 1: around stuck in this hard like science, it's okay for
Speaker 1: st just ignore you. I think I think he's doing great.
Speaker 1: You got a soft spot in your hard for these aliens,
Speaker 1: it's going to get us all killed the best he can,
Speaker 1: all right, he's trying. So they are big, pale deep
Speaker 1: sea squid with huge fins on their mantles, so the
Speaker 1: mantles is like the main body of the squid. They
Speaker 1: kind of look like big elephant ears, although in one
Speaker 1: of these photos, because they're kind of folded in a
Speaker 1: weird way, they look like little bunny ears. And then
Speaker 1: it also looks like it's scowling, But I think that's
Speaker 1: just the folds of the fins and the arms of
Speaker 1: the squid, of which they have ten and two of
Speaker 1: them are actually tentacles can be up to twenty six
Speaker 1: ft long or eight meters, which is actually I thought
Speaker 1: that I thought I remembered them being small, but they're
Speaker 1: actually enormous. Yeah, come on, come on, he's doing pretty
Speaker 1: good form monster and training. It is like a stuffed
Speaker 1: animal tangled to Steve Seaweed. This is a crappy monster.
Speaker 1: This is a wacky monster. You are bullying this squid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to side in this war. Well, the weirdest
Speaker 1: thing about them, maybe the eeriest part of them, is
Speaker 1: the way they hold their arms. So when you know,
Speaker 1: when you think of a squid, you kind of think
Speaker 1: of like this hydrodynamic kind of thing where it's like
Speaker 1: its legs are straight down, but this guy holds its
Speaker 1: legs really long, thin tapering legs out at a right
Speaker 1: angle from its body, so perpendicular to its body for
Speaker 1: like a few feet, and then like bends them back
Speaker 1: down as if you're like holding your arms out and
Speaker 1: then litting your forearms just like dangled down like a
Speaker 1: puppet show like fifty below that entertaining the other fish.
Speaker 1: And the scientists today know what that squid times. Is
Speaker 1: this because he thinks it looks looks cool? Or is
Speaker 1: their their function to this? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Every
Speaker 1: time they try to get a grant there, like I
Speaker 1: want to go under sea and study that super crappy squid,
Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, here's my guests. Though I have
Speaker 1: a I have an educated guess is that they don't
Speaker 1: like to get their arms tangled, so they have to
Speaker 1: hold them out radially because if they just let them
Speaker 1: all dangle down all in a clump, it get all tangled.
Speaker 1: Oh I get it. See that happens to me too.
Speaker 1: Every time. It's why I stopped smoking weed. Is every
Speaker 1: time I did, I felt like my fingers couldn't touch,
Speaker 1: or I might die. So I recognize this posture that
Speaker 1: that's my fingers can't touch or I might die. Squid.
Speaker 1: So they have been found over four thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 1: meters under the sea or fifteen thousand, five hundred feet,
Speaker 1: So they're deep sea squid. And because they're so deep
Speaker 1: in the sea, it is hard study them. And we
Speaker 1: really don't know much about them. We don't know how
Speaker 1: they feed, We don't really know much about their behavior
Speaker 1: other than they just like to float like a weird squid,
Speaker 1: marry in it, and they have really long arms and
Speaker 1: they look a little spooky. If anything, I think it's
Speaker 1: too much. I think we know more than enough. You
Speaker 1: don't want to get to know this squid better. What
Speaker 1: if you could, though, What if you could have a
Speaker 1: nice candle at dinner with this squid? I would I'd
Speaker 1: be friends with that squid. I talked to him about.
Speaker 1: I don't know dangling. We both dangled. We've dangled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you dangle, I dangle. We dangled together. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean about the ins and outs of it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hey man, this is how I dangle. Got some cool
Speaker 1: dangle tips for you. I feel like that if you
Speaker 1: got too close to him, like he'd steing you, Like
Speaker 1: there's a jellyfish thing about his arms. I bet, I
Speaker 1: bet they're toxic. If you touch him, he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get his toxins all over the food. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're probably My guests would be
Speaker 1: that they just dangle these long legs and then stuff
Speaker 1: just gets caught in them, and then they pull them
Speaker 1: up and eat it. Just a lazy play, just filtering
Speaker 1: trash out of the bottom of the ocean. So mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect you guys to be so mean to
Speaker 1: this poor squid. Like I came into it being a
Speaker 1: little scared of the squid, and now I just feel
Speaker 1: sorry for him. Yeah, hey, I am on the record
Speaker 1: is loving the squid. That might be my defense mechanism
Speaker 1: when I see aliens. I just getting really grossed out
Speaker 1: by them, And that makes like defending Earth much easier,
Speaker 1: just shoving them into lockers and giving them a swirly.
Speaker 1: That would be a crazy swirling though, all those legs
Speaker 1: just tornadoing around like thanks for the food, yum yum yum,
Speaker 1: gross squid. Well, speaking of aliens, uh, I have another
Speaker 1: animal for you to try to figure out whether it
Speaker 1: is fact or fiction. A picture of a bat with
Speaker 1: a face hugger on its face? Is this bat the seignior,
Speaker 1: a weaver of bats and it's got an alien parasite
Speaker 1: on it? Is it about to get a chest burster
Speaker 1: out of it? What do you think is going on?
Speaker 1: Is this even a yes to both those questions? Uh?
Speaker 1: Well this is this looks like one of those Australian
Speaker 1: like spider crabs mm hmm. I think he's got those
Speaker 1: are very crustacean e legs. They could have photoshopped on
Speaker 1: the bat. But I think it's a bat that just
Speaker 1: has one of those things on his head. I think
Speaker 1: it's like his Lichador mask. This is his wrestling. I
Speaker 1: love that he has elvet spider mm hmm l spider
Speaker 1: enters the ring. I think the picture is real, but
Speaker 1: that's probably not what's happening. Like maybe there's just a
Speaker 1: dangling spider and the bat ran straight into it and
Speaker 1: somebody took a photo. Maybe the bats asleep and they're
Speaker 1: like screwing with us by like screwing with us the
Speaker 1: viewer as if, but it's really a sleeping bat and
Speaker 1: the spiders crawling around on the sleeping bat. Or maybe
Speaker 1: it's an eyemask, a nice eyemask for the bat. That's
Speaker 1: nice disease. Yeah, so this is a real photo. How
Speaker 1: many points do I get? Uh? Seven? Teen? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is not a parasite really, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I said, So you get twenty nine suck, So it's
Speaker 1: a real thing. I've seen this miscaption as like you know,
Speaker 1: bat with face parasite, so it does have a special
Speaker 1: relationship with a bat, but it's not a parasite. So
Speaker 1: this is the News Yealand bat fly. It is a
Speaker 1: wingless insect that lives on New Zealand lesser short tailed bats.
Speaker 1: So despite it looking kind of horrifying, it is actually
Speaker 1: commence alistic, not parasitic. So commence alism is when the symbiotes,
Speaker 1: so in this case, the bat fly gains something from
Speaker 1: the host without actually hurting or helping the host. So
Speaker 1: you have something you have parasitism where the parasite gain
Speaker 1: something from the host at the host's expense like you
Speaker 1: guys and your little chuckles and your laughs, it does,
Speaker 1: so you have mutualism where both the symbiotes gained something
Speaker 1: from each other, and then there's commence ali is um
Speaker 1: where the one of the symbiotes gets something from the
Speaker 1: host and the host doesn't really matter, Like it does
Speaker 1: not hurt them, but it doesn't help them. It's just whatever.
Speaker 1: All three of them describe my marriage. I hate the
Speaker 1: person that I chose to live my life with. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in this case. The bat fly likes to eat
Speaker 1: not the bat's blood, but the bats poop. Oh, everything
Speaker 1: you said about that squid is true of this fly.
Speaker 1: That's true. I'm not crazy about that. I love the bat.
Speaker 1: This fly is super creepy that he's a non flying
Speaker 1: fly I feel like, and a non spider spi. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a It just likes to crawl around and eat
Speaker 1: the bat poop, or as one might call it, guano.
Speaker 1: Does it live on the bat because the bat looks
Speaker 1: like he's really unhappy about that, it doesn't necessarily always
Speaker 1: cover its face. I think this is just an unflattering
Speaker 1: morning shot of the bat with a with the bat
Speaker 1: fly on its face, but it does. They do like
Speaker 1: to live on the bats, especially in order to travel
Speaker 1: to the bat territory, where sometimes they'll like drop off
Speaker 1: the bats and go eat some poop, So why on
Speaker 1: earth with the bat not just eat it? Because bats
Speaker 1: eat stuff. This is stuff. Why is it not a
Speaker 1: free meal? I mean, try to eat something that's clean
Speaker 1: to your face, Like how do you get your mouth?
Speaker 1: I have a beard. I do it all the time.
Speaker 1: It feels like animals like instinctively know, like if a
Speaker 1: fish is brushing your teeth, like the bigger fish knows
Speaker 1: not to eat that one. Like there's something about nature
Speaker 1: that's true. But in this case, it's not really benefiting
Speaker 1: the bats. So it's actually a good question why they
Speaker 1: don't just like try to eat them organ Maybe he
Speaker 1: just thinks it's really funny that this thing just eats
Speaker 1: his quack all the time. I was laughing at it
Speaker 1: the whole time. I was reading about how bat populations
Speaker 1: suffer because they get like fungus on them, and like
Speaker 1: the fungus doesn't hurt them, It just like bothers them,
Speaker 1: so they don't hibernate well. And then they just sort
Speaker 1: of and so you would think suddenly spider crawling around
Speaker 1: in their face with like really bother the bats. Because
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I know that they get bothered
Speaker 1: by things making their faces it. I think I think
Speaker 1: they kind of I think these guys like to kind
Speaker 1: of hitch a ride, uh and then like maybe drops off,
Speaker 1: like if they just go crazy in the guano piles. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Okay, I think that bad is
Speaker 1: making the exact right expression for the space about it.
Speaker 1: I feel for that, like, oh my god, highly relatable. Dennis,
Speaker 1: you just crawled to the crap pile and he can't
Speaker 1: brush it up right at least with just careening into
Speaker 1: the side of something like those that's what he's using
Speaker 1: to fly. Yeah, and these these uh, these symbiotes there
Speaker 1: aren't that big, Like to a human, they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe half an inch or something, but like to a bat,
Speaker 1: it's the size of the whole bat's face. So that's
Speaker 1: got a suck, Katie. When you see a spider in
Speaker 1: your home, do you squish it or do you put
Speaker 1: it outside? I try to put it outside sometimes, I instinctively,
Speaker 1: like if something's on me, I slap slap it. But
Speaker 1: if I don't have that response, that immediate response, I
Speaker 1: try to put it outside. It's very nice. Brockway, same question.
Speaker 1: I squish them right up. I probably shouldn't, but I
Speaker 1: get like personally offended that they have invaded my homes.
Speaker 1: I'll do things. I'll do things like if I had
Speaker 1: a spider like crawl across my foot once and then
Speaker 1: I like, uh, just instinctively stomped it with the other
Speaker 1: foot and then I went, oh, no, I'm sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: spiders trigger my evil response, like I'm not like that
Speaker 1: with everything. I'll straight up go out of my way
Speaker 1: to help a beat or something. But spiders are just
Speaker 1: like the enemy. I know they shouldn't be, but no,
Speaker 1: yeah they're they're good, like I don't like if if
Speaker 1: I don't have that reflex, I like to help them out,
Speaker 1: give them like a little tiny cup of tea, a
Speaker 1: bunch of little tiny socks. When a bee stings me,
Speaker 1: I feel guilty and I apologize to the beat because
Speaker 1: I know it like kills the bee, so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, if this fly stung me,
Speaker 1: I would not care if it died. I do not
Speaker 1: like this fly. Let the record show second anim on
Speaker 1: her own, not crazy about what if it ain't your poop?
Speaker 1: Though the face bat face toilet fly, I think that
Speaker 1: makes it worse. I think that makes it worse, makes
Speaker 1: it a pervert. Yeah, yeah, I'm just laugh at it
Speaker 1: like this bat. You think it's delicious. So I've seen
Speaker 1: this thing going around on the internet about ravens and wolves,
Speaker 1: and the claim is that ravens and wolves are friends,
Speaker 1: their buddies, they get along, Like what Lady Hawk. They
Speaker 1: made a whole movie about this. Nobody remembers that movie
Speaker 1: except for us. I don't know. We're the only ones
Speaker 1: that was ever important too. It's a story about a
Speaker 1: guy who turns into it will explain it, and a
Speaker 1: lady turns into a hawk. Uh, and like there's a
Speaker 1: brief moment every day when they turn from human to
Speaker 1: animal that they can almost spend time together, and that yes,
Speaker 1: the wizards cursed to make it so their true love
Speaker 1: would never like be consummated again, unless unless someone wanted
Speaker 1: to like uh hawk. Yeah, and nobody does. Rutger Howard
Speaker 1: looks like he might. He's got that expression. I think
Speaker 1: he's just that good an actor. Yeah, maybe that's it.
Speaker 1: We used to Uh well, we keep very separate schedules.
Speaker 1: I'm up during the day and Sean is mostly working
Speaker 1: at night. So we always called the moments where we
Speaker 1: like meet very briefly in the morning and at night
Speaker 1: our Lady Hawk moments because we're adorable. Flow with you
Speaker 1: pointing out this as as it being exactly like it is.
Speaker 1: I believe that bird in that movie is a hawk, right,
Speaker 1: and these are ravens. So you're saying hawks and ravens
Speaker 1: are different. I did not know. We're going to get
Speaker 1: it an advanced animal science. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So the claims have been circulating on social media that
Speaker 1: wolves and ravens are friends who work together to eat
Speaker 1: food and have fun. So ravens purportedly leave wolves to
Speaker 1: carcasses so that the wolves will open up the meat
Speaker 1: and make it easier for the ravens to feed. And
Speaker 1: ravens also supposedly play with wolf pups and have favorites.
Speaker 1: Uh so, what do you guys think? Is this true?
Speaker 1: Is it false? Is the truth somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1: I ain't no reason to believe it's false. Ravens. Ravens
Speaker 1: are pretty clever. I've seen them displace objects with water
Speaker 1: to get to them in little puzzles. Obviously, Uh, wolves
Speaker 1: are pretty clever as well. I could see them doing
Speaker 1: these things. The fact that social media is the source means, um,
Speaker 1: it's a I mean to google it before I you know,
Speaker 1: I know I'm not right now, but gun to my head.
Speaker 1: If I have to say it's fake or not, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to threaten you. I'm not scared. Paul,
Speaker 1: your gun out. See what happens. Uh. I had heard
Speaker 1: about this a long time ago, nothing I had actually researched.
Speaker 1: And because everything that you hear of a long time
Speaker 1: ago is true, I'm going to say it's true. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this is a really interesting case because the idea,
Speaker 1: this is one of my fun tricky questions where the
Speaker 1: ruth is somewhere in the middle. You guys. Uh, The
Speaker 1: idea that ravens and wolves are mutual mutualistic, like they
Speaker 1: work together, they play together, they have a fun friendship
Speaker 1: relationship like I've seen on social media is probably false.
Speaker 1: Ravens and wolves are direct competitors for food, and it's
Speaker 1: not typical that you find mutualism indirect competitors. It's not
Speaker 1: unheard of because you have relationships like badgers and coyotes
Speaker 1: are sometimes known to hunt together for burrowing animals. It's
Speaker 1: actually really funny because um, basically the one of them
Speaker 1: will like start scaring them out of the burrows and
Speaker 1: the other one like sits by the open hole and
Speaker 1: like grab them and yeah, so so they get a
Speaker 1: highly effective hunting strategy to get other and uh it's
Speaker 1: because you know, so badgers are better at digging things up,
Speaker 1: and uh, coyotes are good at chasing things, and so
Speaker 1: like when they end up hunting together, they both have
Speaker 1: a higher success rate, and so they have a quite
Speaker 1: a friendly relationship. Do they fight over the carcass after
Speaker 1: that or do they know? I think it's not that
Speaker 1: they share the carcass because these are little these are
Speaker 1: little rodents, little like a little gophers and so on,
Speaker 1: So they really just like snap up like one and
Speaker 1: like eat it in one bites. There's not really much
Speaker 1: to fight over. It's more just like they try to
Speaker 1: get They aren't trying to give the other guy any food.
Speaker 1: But they end up just having a really high success
Speaker 1: ratio regardless of if like they miss it, the other
Speaker 1: guy gets it. If the other guy misses one of them,
Speaker 1: they get one. And because they're both scaring these things
Speaker 1: back and forth, like they're each going to get uh
Speaker 1: one of these terrified rodents, and they do seem to
Speaker 1: actually enjoy each other's presence to some extent, especially the coyotes.
Speaker 1: They seem rather playful and excited about it. I think
Speaker 1: because they just learned that it's a fun time to
Speaker 1: hunt together. But in this case the problem is that
Speaker 1: this idea that ravens need wolves to open up a carcass,
Speaker 1: or that wolves need ravens to lead them to a carcass,
Speaker 1: I can't find any evidence of that. It seems more
Speaker 1: like they sometimes use each other's signals and take advantage
Speaker 1: of each other finding or killing something, but they're not
Speaker 1: necessarily intentionally helping each other, and in fact, there there's
Speaker 1: a direct conflict of interest because the more the ravens
Speaker 1: eat of a carcass, the less the wolves have, and
Speaker 1: vice versa. It does make sense that like a wolf's sets,
Speaker 1: a smell doesn't really need a rave. If you can
Speaker 1: see a raven he can smell a corpse, and ravens,
Speaker 1: it's got a beat that, Yeah, I can get through
Speaker 1: some fur, you could see a raven can smell a corpse.
Speaker 1: I mean, they definitely do. Like line from Mighty Hawk,
Speaker 1: they do cheat off each other's papers, so to speak,
Speaker 1: like cheat off each other's carcasses where it's you know,
Speaker 1: the the wolves will follow ravens, and ravens will follow
Speaker 1: wolves because they do want to get in on each
Speaker 1: other's kills. Or I don't think ravens really take down
Speaker 1: big animals. They mostly are scavengers, so they're not like
Speaker 1: hunting and taking down a carcass so um, but like
Speaker 1: if they find something, then the wolves might listen to
Speaker 1: their calls and like go over there to try to
Speaker 1: scavenge it for themselves. There are some days when there's
Speaker 1: like fifteen sixteen ravens outside eyeball on my corky dog,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know what you guys are playing.
Speaker 1: I've seen the crow. I know about your revenge scheme.
Speaker 1: I know that's anecdotal evidence and not like I didn't
Speaker 1: do it like a thorough study on the raven patterns
Speaker 1: in my backyard, but I think they're trying to kill
Speaker 1: my dog. This is totally they are. This is totally
Speaker 1: like if you see nature photographs of animals hanging out
Speaker 1: together where they're not actively killing each other, humanity is
Speaker 1: always going to be like what if they're best friends,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I bet they get photographed together a lot
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, then they love each other. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not good enough just that they tolerate each other
Speaker 1: or are not actively killing each other. They have to
Speaker 1: be buddies. But yeah, the problem is, of course ravens
Speaker 1: success actually is bad for wolves and and vice versa
Speaker 1: in terms of them getting edible biomass from carcasses. So
Speaker 1: research has shown that ravens are highly effective at extracting
Speaker 1: biomass from carcasses. Their ability to get meat off of
Speaker 1: carcasses is inversely proportional to pack size, so that means
Speaker 1: that if ravens are trying to feed around a large
Speaker 1: wolf pack, they will get very little meat from a carcass,
Speaker 1: and if they feed around a small wolf pack, they
Speaker 1: can manage to get sometimes up to sevent of a
Speaker 1: carcass right exactly, so they are it's pretty clear they're
Speaker 1: directly competing. So large wolf packs can more effectively guard
Speaker 1: and chase ravens away from a carcass and get it
Speaker 1: for themselves, whereas smaller wolf packs have a harder time
Speaker 1: chasing away a big group of crows. So the moral
Speaker 1: is the power of friendship wins. But friends with wolves,
Speaker 1: not friends with ravens. Well, I mean, the power of
Speaker 1: friendship amongst ravens and the power of friendship amongst wolves
Speaker 1: does does help them out. Seems like a little bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never be friends with anyone different from you. I'd still
Speaker 1: watch the cartoon though. Dr Caylee Swift, a corvette expert
Speaker 1: who I've actually had on the show before, is skeptical
Speaker 1: of this wolf raven mutualism, claims. So there's a tweet,
Speaker 1: of course, I get all of my best research on Twitter,
Speaker 1: a tweet by Jim feltner Um, who is a a
Speaker 1: researcher who says that here are some fun picks of
Speaker 1: wolves chasing ravens off their carcass. Ravens can be serious
Speaker 1: competitors with wolves for smaller wolf packs. Ravens can remove
Speaker 1: up to edible biomass of a carcass, and Dr Kaylee
Speaker 1: Swift responds, this is true and the main reason why
Speaker 1: the friendly mutualism between wolves and ravens that you read
Speaker 1: on Facebook memes is largely made up. So if you
Speaker 1: did post something about that, those science ladies are are
Speaker 1: sub tweeting you right, Yeah, no, they are mad as hell. Uh.
Speaker 1: Despite this, there are many social media posts and even
Speaker 1: articles on websites like Yellowstone dot organ, stem jobs dot
Speaker 1: Com claiming that ravens and wolves have a special relationship.
Speaker 1: And it's actually true that they do have a special relationship.
Speaker 1: But as we just discussed with the bats and the
Speaker 1: face crabs, Uh, they there are many types of relationships
Speaker 1: in nature, not all of them good, not all of
Speaker 1: them bad. Um. You can have a mutualistic or parasitic
Speaker 1: or commence alistic relationship. Um. So it can also be competitive.
Speaker 1: So you know, wolves may indeed pay close attention to
Speaker 1: ravens and follow the sounds of their calls that they
Speaker 1: make when they find a carcass, and ravens probably follow
Speaker 1: wolf packs to try to get a nibble of their kills.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're not doing it necessarily to help each
Speaker 1: other out. Uh. They may not have as violently competitive
Speaker 1: a relationship as say, like hyenas and lions, where they
Speaker 1: regularly kill each other in competition. Um, but they will
Speaker 1: try to steal from each other at a arkist sites,
Speaker 1: so you know it's like a rivalry, all right. Stop
Speaker 1: putting your value judgments on animal relationships. I met. Some
Speaker 1: of them are friends, some of them are lovers, some
Speaker 1: of them are something in between Yeah, you know the
Speaker 1: classic thing where, like you know, you start out it's
Speaker 1: like I hate you Wolf, I hate you Raven, and
Speaker 1: at the end they're like kissing. Yeah, yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: that movie. Yeah, um, I would love an animal it's
Speaker 1: half raven half wolf. I hope one of them. I
Speaker 1: have one of these couples makes it just so you
Speaker 1: can see that. Yeah, I've seen that fan art. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think about it when it's like just born though,
Speaker 1: because have you seen a newborn bird? And have you
Speaker 1: seen a newborn dog? Oh yeah, that's such a mix
Speaker 1: of ugly and adorable you're spitting God's eye. So I
Speaker 1: tried to find where the claim that ravens play with
Speaker 1: wolf puppies and our best friends with them come from,
Speaker 1: and it was hard to like find a reliable source
Speaker 1: for this. Of course, Ravens are highly curious and intelligent,
Speaker 1: and puppies are very playful, so I wouldn't really be
Speaker 1: surprised if these natural competitors do sometimes play with each
Speaker 1: other before the puppies really know better, and the Ravens
Speaker 1: are probably just kind of like teasing them and having
Speaker 1: fun with it. And it's not necessarily a friendship, but
Speaker 1: it may not necessarily be too violent or or to
Speaker 1: misanthropic to an untrained eye, to an untrained twitter, I
Speaker 1: would look like they're they're playing. Yeah, it's a it's adorable,
Speaker 1: but don't count on it lasting. Yeah, exactly, and it
Speaker 1: might it might not be entirely negative. But but it
Speaker 1: does not mean that they're best friends. So some note
Speaker 1: all research is going to come into your comments and
Speaker 1: be like, actually, they're their mortal enemies. This is actually
Speaker 1: very stressful for the ravens. Yeah, yeah, I I love
Speaker 1: that whenever someone posts like a cute picture something that like,
Speaker 1: never do this. This means there was like someone who
Speaker 1: had like a sloth on a boat, like trying to
Speaker 1: help it cross the river. They had what they had
Speaker 1: a watch on a what how dare they? And I
Speaker 1: was like I responded to it like this is so
Speaker 1: wrong that sloth is like two minutes away from killing
Speaker 1: everyone on that boat. Slots are notorious pirates there. Yes,
Speaker 1: there is a trend if you go to like wildlife parks,
Speaker 1: there's sort of a trade trend among tour guides to
Speaker 1: tell you how much every animal could kill you, like
Speaker 1: to be like look at this little capuchin monkey. Oh,
Speaker 1: this monkey could tear you apart, you know, I okay?
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if you've had this experience,
Speaker 1: but it's something that I get every maybe two or
Speaker 1: three tours, someone just taking me on like a walking
Speaker 1: tour of of how I could get massacred by these
Speaker 1: tiny little animals with their annual pass to the Little Safari.
Speaker 1: I already grew up with a good kind of cartoons,
Speaker 1: so most of what I know is streamed by violence.
Speaker 1: So when they say this monkey could kill me, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've already thought of seventeen different ways I could totally
Speaker 1: take that monkey yet, which is not what I go
Speaker 1: there for, but what I always leave thinking. You see
Speaker 1: this cute little flying squirrel, Yeah, it can brow right
Speaker 1: into your eye socket, getting right to your brain. It'll
Speaker 1: tear a mouse apart, wilets and while it's still screaming
Speaker 1: like a man mech just drive you around sour in
Speaker 1: your relationships with your family and friends. It'll guess like
Speaker 1: you to death. Yeah, but I think where this idea
Speaker 1: came from seems to have been taken from zoologists Burned
Speaker 1: Heinrich's book Mind of the Raven Investigations and Adventures with
Speaker 1: wolfbirds in it. He describes as symbiotic but not entirely
Speaker 1: mutualistic relationship between ravens and wolves. So remember, symbiosis just
Speaker 1: means any kind of relationship between two animals. It's not
Speaker 1: necessarily positive, it's not necessarily negative. Uh. There's you know, parasitism, mutualism,
Speaker 1: commensalis um, mimicry. There's even a mental is um where
Speaker 1: one species inadvertently kills another merely by existing, which kind
Speaker 1: of is funny to me a little bit. Three dogs
Speaker 1: are on top of each other in a trench coat. Uh,
Speaker 1: that is called real manism. That's good. Yeah, So there's
Speaker 1: no question that wolves and ravens have a relationship, and
Speaker 1: ravens track wolf movements, and it's even possible that you know,
Speaker 1: wolves pay attention to, say raven warning calls of danger
Speaker 1: and they look out for that. And but I think
Speaker 1: that like the play between ravens and wolves, it's like,
Speaker 1: even though it's probably sometimes playful, sometimes ravens do really
Speaker 1: try to harass wolves because they're trying to get them,
Speaker 1: like away from a kill. So for raven is playing
Speaker 1: with a puppy, they're kind of practicing like harassing each other.
Speaker 1: There which is kind of funny. Like a clown with
Speaker 1: a child. They they'll play with the child, but to
Speaker 1: keep them away from a recent kill, right, Or like
Speaker 1: I could imagine like a young raven, a young puppy
Speaker 1: and a sort of wolf in the hound situation where
Speaker 1: they're like playing around, but then as adults they're bitter enemies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a Shakespearean tragedy right there. That's my That was
Speaker 1: my pitch for Lady in the Tramp too. I can
Speaker 1: like tolerate most sad Disney movies and stuff, but the
Speaker 1: Fox and the Hound, not Wolf in the hand, Fox
Speaker 1: in the Hound. That one's just leak. It's so depressive.
Speaker 1: There's no I wanted to hurt you with that one.
Speaker 1: That was the goal. It doesn't have a good ending.
Speaker 1: It's just like sucker punching you over and over again. Awful.
Speaker 1: But let's move on to big ducks. Big big duck energy.
Speaker 1: So I have a picture of a tall duck. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the claim is that this tall duck is long
Speaker 1: boy and that this is the tallest duck in the world,
Speaker 1: or other claims have been that, no, he's not the
Speaker 1: tallest duck in the world. He is just the tallest
Speaker 1: mallard in the world. Is this true? Is this false?
Speaker 1: Is this a human in a duck costume? What? Is
Speaker 1: it annoyingly pedantic? Just the tallest? I feel like this
Speaker 1: picture seems reasonable, like this is a very tall duck. Ah,
Speaker 1: there's slight evidence of some photoshopping, but nothing conclusive. It
Speaker 1: also just looks like kind of a frame artifact, Like
Speaker 1: it's just maybe a weird lens, or maybe he's just
Speaker 1: standing in such a way that foreshortening makes him look big, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's also kind of big, that twelve ft Joe
Speaker 1: Biden Jimmy Carter picture. This is just it could be
Speaker 1: an effective your classic Biden giant scenario. Think Jane Biden.
Speaker 1: I'm still really skeptical that picture of Biden with the
Speaker 1: with the Carters. I think they they're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it's just the lens warping. It's like, no, think the
Speaker 1: Carters have shrunk because like the chair, Well, I think
Speaker 1: the Bidens have grown. We violently disagree. I think they
Speaker 1: grow with power every day. Could it not be both
Speaker 1: and could it not be related? I think if we
Speaker 1: don't stop them, they will grow to be a hundred
Speaker 1: feet tall and there their hunger disappear. Yeah, like as
Speaker 1: they grow larger, the carters grow smaller. Right. The only
Speaker 1: one who can stop him is this deock long boy,
Speaker 1: long boy. Is that really his name? Yes, long boy? Yes,
Speaker 1: so this is whatever you call it. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: his legal name is long boy. Uh. And he is
Speaker 1: from the University of yok sorry, University of York, England.
Speaker 1: And he is very tall. And this picture is not doctored,
Speaker 1: so two billion points for everyone all around bed. He's
Speaker 1: not the world's tallest duck, nor is he the world's
Speaker 1: tallest mallard, because he is actually a cross between an
Speaker 1: Indian runner duck and a mallard. So for a mallard,
Speaker 1: he is very tall, abomination. Yeah, he Well you wanted
Speaker 1: a half raven half wolf like five minutes, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've changed my mind on it now. I'm against against
Speaker 1: interspecies breeding after that whole debacle. He is twenty eight
Speaker 1: inches or point seven meters tall, so about two two
Speaker 1: ft tall, which is very long. For sure. He's not
Speaker 1: just standing up real straight. He could be front it.
Speaker 1: Don't seem to be milking it a little bit, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Like he seems like he's because when they put you
Speaker 1: up against the little hype thing at the doctors and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, get all my hide out there. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: time to get alone. Yeah boy, he looks into get
Speaker 1: a calm, insecure boy duck. He rounds up on his profile.
Speaker 1: Yeah basically seven. Yeah. But he's he's a very good
Speaker 1: boy and everybody loves them. Okay, yeah he sounds skeptical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: decided you hate this duck? My god, you can't hate
Speaker 1: the duck. I like the idea that there are just
Speaker 1: freaks in every species. There, there's just this is the
Speaker 1: ducks Andre the giant where he's like, he's not making
Speaker 1: a big deal out of it. The other ducks are
Speaker 1: hanging out with him. He's a good guy, just happens
Speaker 1: to be enormous. Yeah, and you know, maybe he'll accidentally
Speaker 1: kill some small ducklings by just try lilling over them.
Speaker 1: But we live. We let on through the giant do
Speaker 1: that horribly wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, making
Speaker 1: giant poops and tricking everyone and looking at them. Duck,
Speaker 1: come look at my giant poop. That's that under the giant,
Speaker 1: you can do that. That's I read a lot of
Speaker 1: under the Giant biographies or any wrestler biography, We'll have
Speaker 1: a Chapman under the Giant and how he tricked them
Speaker 1: into looking at his giant poop because he was too
Speaker 1: big for toilet, so he would like lay down newspapers
Speaker 1: and like poop on a hotel bed and then he'd
Speaker 1: be like, come morning here, boss, And then they go
Speaker 1: in and be like, oh, I'm tricked you and they're
Speaker 1: looking at my pooper. Then exactly like this duck, You're correct?
Speaker 1: Is that true? Somewhere in between hundreds of variations of
Speaker 1: that exact story, the quiz has turned on you. I
Speaker 1: feel like this duck could get very popular amongst ducks
Speaker 1: if he just like puts on a little shirt in
Speaker 1: a little hat, because he's, you know, tall enough to
Speaker 1: almost be a person. So he could, you know, go
Speaker 1: into a store and it's like, well, you're too tall
Speaker 1: to be a duck. You're right, Get them beer and crackers. Yeah. So, guys,
Speaker 1: what's your feelings on the Lockness Monster. Uh, he's great,
Speaker 1: he's inspiring, gives everybody hope. This is an an animal
Speaker 1: I hate. I don't trust the three You just don't
Speaker 1: like animals, the feeling you just don't like it, ianky Katie.
Speaker 1: I think I've liked every animal. I think Sean hates
Speaker 1: all animals and eye level, I can't argue with the
Speaker 1: stats so far, but I think you just caught me
Speaker 1: on a cranky day. You're on the wrong show, buddy.
Speaker 1: But what if the lockness mystery was finally solved, that
Speaker 1: the law Ness Monster is really just a big old
Speaker 1: whale Penis just swimming around. And I would love that story.
Speaker 1: I like any story that ends with It's just a dick.
Speaker 1: It was a dick the whole time. He was just
Speaker 1: out there waving his dick around, and we built a
Speaker 1: monster about it. I mean, that's that's really my story. Well,
Speaker 1: I've shown you photographic evidence of a picture of the
Speaker 1: Lockness Monster and the picture of a whale penis, and
Speaker 1: it does remarkably, yes, exactly the same. So could this
Speaker 1: be what the Lockness Monster is? Penis? What do you
Speaker 1: guys think? Well, the thing is where I look at
Speaker 1: the Lockness Monster, I don't want to, but when you
Speaker 1: look at that whale penis, try to sense that you
Speaker 1: can't get technically, not a person word in that. Finish
Speaker 1: your sentence, Finish your implication, you put it on the record. Sorry, Katy,
Speaker 1: I really sorry for that one. Just just long quack.
Speaker 1: I think it's fake because there wouldn't be a whale
Speaker 1: in the lock. I think that monster there's a whale
Speaker 1: on that late people be like, yeah, that's interesting enough,
Speaker 1: we don't need to make a sea monster out of it. Now.
Speaker 1: If you were saying this, hold on, this is a
Speaker 1: different story. If you were saying that all of the
Speaker 1: you know, old timing mariners stories of here there'll be
Speaker 1: monsters and like pictures of sea serpents every single time
Speaker 1: that was a whale wagging its stick at them. I
Speaker 1: say yes, I say yes, that is I love that story.
Speaker 1: A billion points for Brockway, can I have three for
Speaker 1: agreeing with him? You get you get like a little
Speaker 1: spinny top that's like part plastic, part cardboard, and on
Speaker 1: the cardboard part of it, it says you tried. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that as the insult you intended it to be. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So exactly, you can't have wale penis in the lock
Speaker 1: because importantly, you can't have a whale in the lock
Speaker 1: because the lock is a lake and it does not
Speaker 1: have whales in it. If you put a baby whale
Speaker 1: in the lake years before. Uh, do you think it'd okay? No,
Speaker 1: I think it would die. It would die, and then
Speaker 1: you would just have dead baby whale penis floating around.
Speaker 1: That's a different We could make a legend of that
Speaker 1: quite easily. But the photo that is being used as
Speaker 1: the basis for comparison has been debunked. That classic photo
Speaker 1: of the Lockness monster. The person who took the photo
Speaker 1: admitted that it is a toy submarine and a clay
Speaker 1: sculpture of a monster head that he took a blurry,
Speaker 1: black and white photo of. Uh. If you believe that
Speaker 1: it's so easy to make these, you just changed all
Speaker 1: of history by soda monkey head to a bar soap
Speaker 1: and I'm calling it the Mermaid of the lock And
Speaker 1: I found the correct idiot for this picture. Therefore history
Speaker 1: has changed irrevocably. But Brockaway, what earned you another billion
Speaker 1: points is that the idea that a whale penis could
Speaker 1: be mistaken for a sea serpent is true. It's well,
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's true, but it's not been disproven,
Speaker 1: so you can just old old sailor myths of a
Speaker 1: giant sea monster with a serpentine tail could have in fact,
Speaker 1: been a blue whale or other large whale just with
Speaker 1: its big old penis hanging out, just hanging down out
Speaker 1: in the air, like like sometimes you hang the ocean, yea,
Speaker 1: swinging it around sun, swinging it around in a new environment,
Speaker 1: and it would be impressive, because a blue whale penis
Speaker 1: can be up to ten feet long or three meters
Speaker 1: with a diameter of one ft orme for you guys,
Speaker 1: when I was in college, I like to drink, so
Speaker 1: I have seen some tent for whale penises. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, challenge you guys to make a not dirty
Speaker 1: joke about that. Immediately while you were saying that, I
Speaker 1: was already doing it. Let me interrupt you to make
Speaker 1: the dirty joke you're telling me not to make. I was.
Speaker 1: You only interrupted me by like, you only preempted my
Speaker 1: interruption by a few seconds. As I was going to be, like,
Speaker 1: if you were a pirate out there at sale in
Speaker 1: the seas in the fifteen hundreds and somebody was like,
Speaker 1: that's not actually a monster, that's just a monster's they
Speaker 1: would be like, that's not that's not better. I still
Speaker 1: want to go home. By the way, if you want
Speaker 1: to own a nineteenth century stuffed whale penis. It'll run
Speaker 1: you just about six thousand dollars at auction. Well that's
Speaker 1: a steel that's camer that's not even a nice camera. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: no one would mention it as the guy who owned camera,
Speaker 1: but everyone would know you was the guy who owned
Speaker 1: a whale penis. Hey, you buy one whale penis. So
Speaker 1: our last thing to look at is actually a video
Speaker 1: I want you guys to check out. It's very weird.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Katie, what have you? What have you shown us? Unsubscribe?
Speaker 1: Have you seen this video before? I have No. Everybody
Speaker 1: tries to get me to watch horrible videos, and I
Speaker 1: am usually so good about them. I did not see
Speaker 1: the trap coming from you. Yeah. Basically, what you see
Speaker 1: is these two fish burst from muddy bank like near
Speaker 1: a river, but like in the ground, and then they're
Speaker 1: gasping for air, and then one of them like spits
Speaker 1: an eel out, and the eel goes into the other
Speaker 1: fish's mouth. It's two fish, one eel. It's so filthy.
Speaker 1: This is the most vulgar thing I've seen it. Awhile
Speaker 1: it's the reason I, yeah, the reason I didn't even
Speaker 1: really want to cover this, but I did get a
Speaker 1: few listeners like revenge, revenge. That's true, that's true, but
Speaker 1: it's all it's compassionate revenge. Because I did get some
Speaker 1: listeners send this to me saying like like, please tell
Speaker 1: me this isn't real. This has gotten like eight million views,
Speaker 1: So this is this is like not just on the
Speaker 1: dark web. This is out and about and people are
Speaker 1: watching this and thinking it's real. But what do you
Speaker 1: guys think. I don't want to live in a world
Speaker 1: where that's real. I do not. I do not want
Speaker 1: to live in a world where that's real. I would
Speaker 1: I would pay you a good amount of money to
Speaker 1: undo this from my brain. Yeah, I will never rest
Speaker 1: easy thinking something like that could be behind me or
Speaker 1: in front of me. I feel like if I strategically
Speaker 1: hard drink right now, I can get rid of it.
Speaker 1: I'm already hitting myself in my head. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to like spin around really fast and maybe just
Speaker 1: like the centropetal force back up and see which which
Speaker 1: method works best. But yeah, so you see these two
Speaker 1: fish like face to face, and one spits an eel
Speaker 1: into the other fish's mouth, and they're like emerging from
Speaker 1: the ground like they're two ears of corn like coming
Speaker 1: out for harvest. It's it's not good and I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen to it with sound. I'll
Speaker 1: say that much. It's also like weirdly symmetrical, like like
Speaker 1: it's erotic, disgusting fetish erotic arts from like a culture
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, from from fish perverts. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: this fish perfect art? Yeah? I love that. The the
Speaker 1: YouTube video is from Discovery Site. Yeah, yeah, Discovery Site
Speaker 1: through I'm not I'm not gonna play I'm not going
Speaker 1: to play around with this. Yeah. No, of course it's fake.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely no way, very very fake. I've seen
Speaker 1: not Discovery Site. The integrity of Discovery shattered. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: am thoroughly disillusioned with Discovery Site. Um it. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of these videos. There's something about fish
Speaker 1: and like people like will dig a hole and put
Speaker 1: a fish in it and then hold up an egg
Speaker 1: and then show a fish coming out of the hole
Speaker 1: because the fish doesn't want to be in a hole
Speaker 1: that you dug. And then they're like, see I lured
Speaker 1: a fish out of this hole with an egg. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's like there are all these weird hoax videos,
Speaker 1: worst birth. This channel itself is if you want to
Speaker 1: ruin your night, you could watch this channel. It's highly
Speaker 1: gross and not fun, uh because it's like so basically
Speaker 1: what it looks like to me is they have to
Speaker 1: I'm hoping dead fish that they have they like have
Speaker 1: hollowed out some ground and they are probably using using
Speaker 1: these dead fishes like hand puppets that they push through
Speaker 1: the ground and then they're like physically manipulating the mouth
Speaker 1: so they open and close. I'm hoping, I'm hoping these
Speaker 1: poor things are not still alive. This is literally just
Speaker 1: as disgusting as if it's just two fish sharing an
Speaker 1: eel sucking. Yeah, and then like they and then they
Speaker 1: take a dead eel and then like put it in
Speaker 1: a fish and then like push it out and into
Speaker 1: the other fish. I think you're right. I think this
Speaker 1: is practical effects because like it does not look like
Speaker 1: c G. I it looks very very real. Channel is
Speaker 1: just them doing like stupid tricks with fish corpses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how does that not get directed? What world is it
Speaker 1: where you can do that and it's legal, Like put
Speaker 1: some laws on the books that make us you can't
Speaker 1: do dead fish bits what am I paying my taxes for?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I hope all of them are dead.
Speaker 1: I feel like some of the videos though. They certainly
Speaker 1: have videos where the fish are still alive and they're
Speaker 1: doing weird things with them. There's one where they dig
Speaker 1: a hole. They put like some some powder and an
Speaker 1: egg in the hole and then catfish come out of
Speaker 1: the hole and it's like titled like fishing trick, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you just put some little catfish in
Speaker 1: a hole and then smothered them with like an egg
Speaker 1: yoke and then they tried to get out of the hole.
Speaker 1: It's really weird. Yeah, these thumbnails are just the stuff
Speaker 1: of nightmares. This is with you, guys. Any other species,
Speaker 1: I think this would just I think, like Sean said,
Speaker 1: this would be massively immediately illegal. I think there's some
Speaker 1: sort of gray area where we're with fish. Like, no,
Speaker 1: he's not a sociopath for making this entire channel about
Speaker 1: playing with corpses. Yeah, like if you did this with
Speaker 1: a human baby or a human toddler, right, that's illegal
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. That is very illegal. Actually, yes, No,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I I eat fish, so I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a vegetarian and uh, but I think it's
Speaker 1: not cool to just like torment fish for weird videos.
Speaker 1: This is somebody's fetish, that's what. Look, that's my default
Speaker 1: when I don't understand something on the internet, and so
Speaker 1: far I have never been wrong. It's just so it's
Speaker 1: like I feel it's like I think, oh, the person
Speaker 1: who made this as a serial killer. But it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're already serial killing fish and tormenting them, like
Speaker 1: they make a fish and a turtle like kiss each other.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. Like, can we try to try to
Speaker 1: imagine you're like on a date with a guy and
Speaker 1: the things are going well and then he says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the kind of thing I do on the internet,
Speaker 1: and he shows you that video, Like, can you think
Speaker 1: of anything that would end the momentum a relationship faster
Speaker 1: than that? I mean, it'd probably be too late for me, right,
Speaker 1: Like he would have already killed Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: just wants to see if you understand the trap closing right, right,
Speaker 1: that's the last admission before like my head gets chopped
Speaker 1: off by some kind of solid device. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: see the beautiful gift I've given us? Do you see
Speaker 1: the pleasure fish upon land? This is the next step
Speaker 1: of evolution. You use that voice for Rutger Howard. At
Speaker 1: some point they also seem to take a vacuum in
Speaker 1: pertend to vacuum up fish. Uh oh, yeah, I see
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I bailed on that side. You guys
Speaker 1: are looking at stuff without me. I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: that side ever. Again, I'm a notre horse. But like
Speaker 1: I hesitate, like I hesitate to even linked to this
Speaker 1: because like they're clearly just trying to get shocked clicks
Speaker 1: for views, and it was million six million views. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of I kind of hate it. Like
Speaker 1: I I don't necessarily hate hoaxes all that much. They
Speaker 1: can be funny, but I don't like this at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hate these guys. I hate these guys like Sean
Speaker 1: hates every animal, right. I love the weird squid, I
Speaker 1: love the I even love the bat fly who crawls
Speaker 1: around and eat bat guano. But these guys, I hate him.
Speaker 1: You're the worst animal, guys, Yeah, man, man is the
Speaker 1: worst animal. That's what we always learned every time. Everyone
Speaker 1: who's the who's the real? Who's the real? Long Finn squid.
Speaker 1: It's us. It was us the whole time, the whole time. Well, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on and playing my
Speaker 1: little game. Oh final score, A billion points for Brockway,
Speaker 1: seven points for Sean what what what quack and destroyed.
Speaker 1: But I ut like two thousand, five hundred baskets of
Speaker 1: point coin which are worth two billion points each. So
Speaker 1: I will oh until they until they regulate it. You
Speaker 1: better catch you out quick. Yeah, congratulated, Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: well deserved one might get. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, my most humble of things. But yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Where can people if I guess if they
Speaker 1: want to find you after all your slander against animals?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Dog dot com also on Patreon,
Speaker 1: one hot dog and our podcast if you hate the
Speaker 1: written word and you love us, which why wouldn't you?
Speaker 1: Is The Dog Zone nine thousand two, two z's, three
Speaker 1: zeros and two dudes having fun there. I'll remember that.
Speaker 1: That was really cute. Yeah, we do jokes every day,
Speaker 1: we're funny dudes. Not I mean, we didn't do it
Speaker 1: today today, you know, like I said, it was really cranky,
Speaker 1: just hating animals today but this is for science normally
Speaker 1: science brains on. Yeah, don't judge them for their duck
Speaker 1: hate today. Uht bit maybe a little bit? Yeah and
Speaker 1: then uh yeah. You can find the podcast online at
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Speaker 1: That's t has something very different. Uh. You can send
Speaker 1: me your questions concerns, hopefully not weird videos of fish
Speaker 1: doing not good things to Creature feature Pod at gmail
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Speaker 1: you're enjoying the show, please leave or rating and review. Uh.
Speaker 1: It really helps. I read them all makes me feel
Speaker 1: good inside. It will wash away the horror of watching
Speaker 1: the weird fish video that I did for you guys.
Speaker 1: So yes, you're welcome. Uh, and thank you to the
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