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Speaker 1: A student popular football player Evil child Lester signing to

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Speaker 1: descended Gil who I've never woken up in the morning

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Speaker 1: and wondered, did we get the wrong guy? This trial

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Speaker 1: was a sham. There's been an outcry. He was absolutely guilt.

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Speaker 1: They got it wrong. Initially I was pretty confessed as

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special quarantine edition. We got a

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Speaker 1: real special guys. What's up with your brodyach with the

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Speaker 1: virtual handshake? Oh tell you something that I never told

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Speaker 1: no about it? I want to smoke. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another quarantine addition of all the smoke, I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: this one. This is this is this is the A

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Speaker 1: list edition. Like I mean, I I think we all

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Speaker 1: did ourselves here. Jack Ship, Yeah, man, I can't believe it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, go ahead and introduce me. Let's get it

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Speaker 1: your started. You can't even spit that ship out. I

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Speaker 1: know you can't get it out. I ain't gotta lick

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Speaker 1: my lips and nothing. I'm ready to go and they

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Speaker 1: get ready to go. All right, man, Welcome or the

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Speaker 1: greatest hottest actors of our generation. Uhrind sitting ground Yeah,

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Speaker 1: groundbreaking musician, jack of all trades, if you don't mind

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Speaker 1: me using that term. Welcome Jamie Fox. Thanks for the

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Speaker 1: chiming on. Man, come on, you ain't gonna do all that, man,

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Speaker 1: hold on, we gotta the rest of the world gotta know, man,

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Speaker 1: you man, you left out super party thrower. Man, what

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Speaker 1: I still got? Chicks I talked to that I met

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Speaker 1: at your party? Was that ten years ago? How long ago? Throw?

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Speaker 1: Ten years ago, don't matter? About two years ago, you know?

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Speaker 1: And you came in all the smooth and light skilled, smooth.

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Speaker 1: I've remember the legendary session we had in your studio. Yeah, man, singing, rapping,

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Speaker 1: smoking stupids in there. Yeah man, you but you know

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Speaker 1: that's that's really kind of hard. How I got into

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Speaker 1: the business like throwing throwing parties, man, Like back in

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Speaker 1: the day, like I had just got on this little

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Speaker 1: show called and Living Color back in the day, dog,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't, I wasn't nobody. But like I talked

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Speaker 1: to this girl, really pretty, and I said, how do

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Speaker 1: I get people to come to my party? She said, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: throw parties. Invite the girls, but don't put no pressure

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Speaker 1: on that's what you mean. She don't put no pressure

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Speaker 1: on and make sure they can have a good time.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, relaxed, I said, cool, So

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Speaker 1: I throw this little it was a Halloween party, dog,

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Speaker 1: and I went all out. I spent like eight hundred

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Speaker 1: that's early not I went all out and went all

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Speaker 1: out dog. And then like it was a Halloween party,

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Speaker 1: like Tim thirty was, nobody had to create. I said, damn,

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Speaker 1: I don't blew it. I don't spend all this morning,

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Speaker 1: got barbecue whatever funk And then like them thirty, they

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Speaker 1: started rolling in and then that's yo, Yo came back

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Speaker 1: in the day all of you know, all the casts

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Speaker 1: was coming. But I was wondering who big was gonna

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Speaker 1: show up to stamp the party. And I'm looking outside

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Speaker 1: and this motherfucking black what is it? N nexs the

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Speaker 1: what's that the black Excess? What's that car? Uh? The Nissa?

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Speaker 1: What was the Nissan Excess? And the ex Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: the ship was rich looking. And Wesley Snipes got out

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Speaker 1: the room and came to my this is the you

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Speaker 1: I remember the biggest one was in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: we had h That's when Puff was hot. Puff was like,

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Speaker 1: It was a house party. And Puffy threw a party

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Speaker 1: for like a million dollars in Philly, and I was

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Speaker 1: I used to follow him with a camera said he said,

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Speaker 1: And that's like said, yeah, yeah, we all know each other.

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Speaker 1: But look on the table. I got Kentucky fried chicken.

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Speaker 1: in a picture. I said, were two hundred and eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: And it's a fever pitch. And at that at that point,

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Speaker 1: it was everybody. Missy had a room, Missy Elliot had

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Speaker 1: dude standing on the standing on the wall. DI did

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Speaker 1: nobody know who who he was? Guess who it was?

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Speaker 1: He had attracted Jack, don't guess it was. It was

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Speaker 1: Jay z. Well, nobody knew who he was. And I

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Speaker 1: walked up to him and said, nice party. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: like all time and said he it's crazy. So he

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Speaker 1: was in for real? Was there? So that tradition? We

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Speaker 1: just keep it rolling. You put that on. I mean,

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Speaker 1: hands down, this motherfucker. It's crazy. It's craziest. Nice party,

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Speaker 1: like the short term, it's crazy crazy. Talking about Jackie

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Speaker 1: talking about is this part he wants you to first,

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing. I'm laughing. I'm laughing because every time I

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Speaker 1: see you do impersonation, Bro, I just think of rotting

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Speaker 1: the earl of bones. Bro's gonna be all right, he said,

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Speaker 1: he blazed to get burned on. I understanding you can

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Speaker 1: get burned. Hey, Steve Stephen, I owe you something, though, Man,

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Speaker 1: what's that I've been stealing from you? Bro? What's that

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Speaker 1: I've been stealing? You don't? You don't even know? Look,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm steal I'm steal in YOUM dog trying

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Speaker 1: to hoot, uh huh. And you know I would have

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Speaker 1: You know what I say, pressure, I make a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure. I make a lot of what a shirt saying,

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Speaker 1: don't make a move to Bro. I told Matt you

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Speaker 1: He walked behind the bench and pulled me to the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you got going on, but I'll

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Speaker 1: make a lot of pressure. We need you need to

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Speaker 1: make T shirts what a T shirt said right now?

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Speaker 1: Right now? But but befriend But tell a story though,

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Speaker 1: because I'll be telling people. It was. It was just

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Speaker 1: would have done in that situation. Yeah, it was a reporter.

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Speaker 1: I made a lot of big shots with the Spurs

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Speaker 1: and uh. And it was asked me like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you've been dealing well with pressure.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, you know what I'm from from part

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Speaker 1: of texts we make love of pressure. Oh my almost

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Speaker 1: the world. The motherfucker say, I make loved of Look

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Speaker 1: at I'm gonna make some shirts and seeing you on

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Speaker 1: just so we can have just me. We're gonna make

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Speaker 1: the shirts. We're gonna make the salk I made the pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't even want to make love? Do you want

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Speaker 1: motherfucking face her. We hadn't even started yet. God man, man,

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Speaker 1: The only other person do it was al Pacino. We

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Speaker 1: You know, I was like the eighth funniest person. Imagine

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Speaker 1: to make my way through this business. And then finally, look, man, uh,

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Speaker 1: Ray Charles came along. Uh that movie came on and

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Speaker 1: it was like I had been preparing myself, not knowing

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Speaker 1: but when I got with the director, the director was like,

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Speaker 1: over then there. That's all I know. Yeah, man, missing, Yeah,

422
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: no big part. I mean, like you said, it's the

423
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: best time, right, I mean, the playoffs would be going

424
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: all right now. But like you said, there was so

425
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: much parody in the league this season, and so many

426
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: people wanted to see what that Laker Clipper playoff matchup

427
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: was gonna be. Like, so I hope we can hopefully

428
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: get there, Jackie all right over there, yeah, man, jack

429
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: But I gotta feeling Hey, man, let's get into it.

430
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: I gotta feeling on. He was about to he was

431
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: about to make some history. Man. Let me ask you

432
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: all this a player that is playing someone like Lebron

433
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: James And now I'm watching the Michael Jordan's uh A documentary.

434
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: The question is how hard is it now playing sports

435
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: in the world with social media where the narratives are

436
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: so crazy? Because when I look at Michael, he was

437
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: so heralded man and well deserved. Do you think, I mean,

438
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: how would that would have played out in modern daytimes

439
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: and we'd have had social media. That's that's trying to

440
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: be bigger, He'll be ten times even bigger, Like like

441
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: did you say Jordan was chosen to be to go?

442
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: Like he didn't ask to be to go, he was

443
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: chosen to be to go. But if they would have

444
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: had social media and all this technology when MJ was

445
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: coming up, he'll be ten times bigger than what he

446
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: is now. And here's and here's a question though, would

447
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: it be controversy as well? Because when I look at it,

448
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: like the guys that played now, they don't get that

449
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: love like they normally. It's always it's a lot, it's

450
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: always a hate because I'm looking at Lebron like he's

451
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: in the seventeenth year putting up these type of numbers.

452
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: Anybody to do anything for seventeen years good and somebody

453
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: get a plaque or get you know what I'm saying,

454
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: that kind of ship. But he gets a lot of

455
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: he get a lot of controversy. Why is that? Because

456
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's it's easier today to show

457
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: it takes a strong man to show love, you know

458
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I think you made a great point.

459
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: There's so many there's distractions. Back then, there's no doubt

460
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: and they were. You know, they're the rock Stars, biggest

461
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: team in the world. But at the same time, there

462
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: wasn't we had a we just we just did an

463
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: interview with Bradley Beal talking about how the media tried

464
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: to put him and John Wall against each other when

465
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: they're actually good friends, like brothers, you know what I mean.

466
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: So to think if the media would, if social media

467
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: would have been able to get in that locker room

468
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: with the ship that was going on with Pipping, because

469
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: obviously Mike felt a certain way about it, you know

470
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: what I mean, and his reasons, you know what I mean.

471
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: So what if social media got their hands on that

472
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: and throw that ship around? Could that have possibly caused

473
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: the friction in their relationship or friendship or their chemistry.

474
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: So that's a great question. It would have sucked it up.

475
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: What do you think, because I mean, I don't see

476
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: how these guys like man, you know, like I'm sensing

477
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: to to like motherfucker coming to tell your ass you

478
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: be ready to tell your computer, how would they have

479
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: dealt with all of that? Jack, but that ship, that

480
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: that ship affected Braun and Kyrie, you know, to be

481
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: infected that and just magic they would have stayed together,

482
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: but me personally with Braun, all his chatter, don't it

483
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: don't matter to him because before all his chatter, when

484
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: Braun was a teenager, Braun was sitting there thinking in

485
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: his own mind, I want to be better than Jordan.

486
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: I want to be the best to play the game.

487
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: So everything that's been sad now it's been said to

488
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: him in year seventeen, after all he's done, it doesn't

489
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: it don't matter because his goal was set in his

490
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: own mind, not based off what other people thinkright. Top five,

491
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: top five? Who your point guards to? Top five all time?

492
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: Who your point guard? This all the time? My point

493
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: guard would be uh Lebron James, who magics my point guard?

494
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: At your all? Right too, be Lebron too too. I'm

495
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: going Jordan's I got jo I got Jordan in my two.

496
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: I got I got Kobe at my three. Kobe at

497
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: my three, Kobe my three, go ahead. I got him

498
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: dunking at my four, Tim Duncan at your four. I

499
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: got Katie at my four. I'll about to say Katie

500
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: at my four. Now here's the thing I'm gonna change

501
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: because I had a different order. I had a different

502
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: order the other day. But I'm changing My five is shock. Yeah,

503
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I am. I'm going with these

504
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: in five. That the five. Here's the thing. Now let's

505
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: do errors because that's mine for the new era. What

506
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: about the old erabor? Oh, I'm going on. I'm going

507
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: with more cheeks, more cheese. I'm gonna I'm going with magic.

508
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking Yeah, I'm still taking magic. Do you know

509
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: what I'm still taking? No, no, no, no, I'll take

510
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: my back. I'm going I Saila, Okay, I'm going magic. One.

511
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: Who we're going to I got Jordan still Jordan too,

512
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: for sure? Three we go, We're going. We're going back.

513
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: Now we're going back. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. No, no, no,

514
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: you can you know what I'm saying. The the rules

515
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: like rules like different rules like you know, like this

516
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: this area still I let you, I let John have this.

517
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm going George Gervin. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

518
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Lebron at three three, I'm gonna go. But no a king.

519
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna old school on? Um huh. Yeah, I'm

520
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: going with Pip phel nice nice, actually, hold on, I'm

521
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna go Grant Hill at my three. Okay,

522
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: I need I need Bird in it. I need Bird

523
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: in it or three or four? Four? Four? Oh, that's

524
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: a nice one. Bird at the four is a nice

525
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: stretch for I'm going at the four. I'm going. Uh boy,

526
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: boy boy, that was tough that with Bird. That's what

527
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: I meant. French lick. Yeah, I know right, I gotta

528
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: go Bird too. Yeah, I'm going. I'm I'm going with

529
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: Michalek four shoulders, mchaeale. Actually, excuse me, excuse me, back Barkley.

530
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: I got Barkley at my four. There you go, There

531
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: you go. There's a large Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

532
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: Horible five. Who you got? I gotta da I ain't

533
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: got no charts. I'm going with Will I'm I'm going

534
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: with Elijah one. Since I picked shot earlier, The Dream

535
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Dream on the Dream, we touched on it. We touched

536
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: on it a little bit ago. But what do you

537
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on seeing this this last dance documentary,

538
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: because I think we're spoiled today with everyone just getting

539
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: to see everything about athletes, entertainers, whatever. It wasn't that way,

540
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: like we just tested it. Wasn't that way. So now

541
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: we're getting to see almost a social media look at

542
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of how great that team was. But

543
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: like you said, you you you're were slowly but surely

544
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: find it out. There's some chinks in the armor. What

545
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about what you're saying so far? Well,

546
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: you know what it is. I think that in today's world,

547
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: had this documentary came out there was no social media,

548
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: we will be able to watch it and take it in.

549
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: The problem is once it comes out social media, now

550
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: look at look at Scottie Pippen, what he gotta deal

551
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: with because they're talking about his money. So now you know,

552
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: they make it memes and you know, so it's sort

553
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: of hard to it's sort of hard for today's world

554
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: to accept it. Now. Me being from back at that time,

555
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: or not back at the time, but I mean being

556
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: old enough to have seen those games, I appreciate it

557
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: in a different way because I'm like, damn, I finally

558
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: get a chance to him. Michael talked about scott and

559
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I thought that was the one,

560
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: right because everybody was ship on Scotty. Be like Scottie

561
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: wasn't ship He wasn't. Then Michael did it all on

562
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: his own. I said, yo, man, y'all tripping Scottie Pippenham

563
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: was one of the Mother's assassin's ever and I said,

564
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't without him exactly. Here's the thing, you guys, know this,

565
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: It's about being comfortable if somebody can make your job easy,

566
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: whether bass, playing basketball, or whether I'm in the movie

567
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: with great, great actors. When somebody can lift your shoulders

568
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: with Michael, ain't gotta worry about guarding the main players,

569
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: so you can save his lead because you know you

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: need Michael for that train often anytime you've got somebody

571
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: alleviate that type of pressure from Pipping Harper. Yeah, Ron Harper,

572
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: you're Tony Kukoach. These guys were Hall of famers, and

573
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: so when you look at that now you're able to

574
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: see because you know they're gonna give you tim parts,

575
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: but you're able to see what allowed Michael Jordan's to

576
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: beat Michael Jordan's and those guys were super important. So

577
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they're getting that shine taking nothing from Michael,

578
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: because you know that's that's come on, you can't see

579
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: it's the goat. But they have to understand, and I'm

580
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: glad that showing it now that it was a lot

581
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: of it was a lot of help in that, man,

582
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: because the days look a lot of times we see

583
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: highlights and we see the greatest of the great but

584
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: we don't see those times when we struggle. And I

585
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: think that's just great about it, and you see the stroke.

586
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say this. It felt good to

587
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: see the quote from Mike saying you can't talk about

588
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan without Scotti, Pip, and I think to anybody

589
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: what he said, It felt good to finally see that

590
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: quote and see Mike say that, yeah, man, because I

591
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: know for Scotty man, think about being Scotty just being

592
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: like damn, you know, they don't know, but they don't.

593
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: They got crazy and they got the greatest voice, and well, yeah, Si,

594
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: you gotta got the wolf on his throat. Yeah, I

595
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: had to turn the base off. My TeV was st

596
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, but about Nyes on this throat. But back

597
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: to your point, I think that the crazy part is

598
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: it's just because we say Mike had helped doesn't lessen

599
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Mike's greatness, you know what I means at all. It's

600
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: just it's just that the Mike. You know, look a

601
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, like the tough things now

602
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: is even talking about would you get But you know,

603
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Mike's Mike's I mean, I mean, Mike's of his his

604
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: his just his whole brand is so huge it's hard

605
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about just basketball. So I'm glad

606
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: they got a chance to show just the basketball. You know,

607
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: I think it's it's important cause a Skip Bayliss says

608
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: something today that Scotty wasn't one of the greatest. He

609
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: wasn't this, he wasn't that. And to me, Mike's legacy,

610
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Mike will still be great regardless. If he had Pip,

611
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: he would be great, but like you said, he lessens,

612
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: he lessened to burden. But then there's no titles without Pip.

613
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: And when we talk about legacy, we talk about winning championships.

614
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: So so Mike is a great player, there's no knock

615
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: on that. Obviously the greatest of all time. But when

616
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: we talk about legacy, and man Mike said in his

617
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: own words, like there's no Mike without Pip, you know

618
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm glad that people are finally

619
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: getting to see how important Pip was because like I said, us,

620
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, we're at our forties now we know how

621
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: motherfucking important, how good Pip was. Yeah, man, but but

622
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: you can't listen to skill. See, that's why I sunk

623
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: with y'all man, skiving them, be trying to get headlines man,

624
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and just say that wold ship. That's why I'm shann

625
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: to be on a skilled skilled skilled still skill kill

626
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: skill hilp Ye all day. That's all he saying all day.

627
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean counting how many times he said

628
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: philp Si that's all he saved. Bro. You can't listen

629
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: to them. I don't listen to them. I listening to

630
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: y'all man, because you know y'all play the y'all know

631
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank pivot them back to uh sports

632
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: though I know sports probably started in your childhood. Can

633
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: you talk to us about that? And man, you know

634
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: what Texas man, it was everything man, like playing football

635
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: was was was was out there like we didn't have

636
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: no basketball team coming up, like and I just see

637
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: then I see some football clubs. Man. You know football

638
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: is my first sports. I played football. That was my ship. Yeah,

639
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: so you under you understand that man in football in

640
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Texas was everything. So like you know, like I remember

641
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: like being a sophomore getting on the varsity team and

642
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I was big back then, you know, to be a

643
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: sohom And I remember finally getting on the team, and

644
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: I had worked all some of My father was a coach.

645
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: He coaches another at another school in Lincoln High School.

646
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: But I worked on someone and I didn't get kicked

647
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Lincoln, baby, you know what I'm saying. So I

648
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: didn't get picked up, and I was in terrible and

649
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: then finally like somebody couldn't play, Like one of the

650
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks didn't play. We ran a three quarterback thing. The

651
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: coach came out there and uh, while I was in

652
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: my uh like we was having two days just I

653
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: got a start. So whenever I could believe, it was

654
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: like the cons of the kids. And then they got

655
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: on bossing. And then I walked in, dog, and it

656
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: was it taught me about just being able to be

657
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: on another level, like to really stripe. And I walked

658
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: in and they had carpet on the floor. Dog, you know,

659
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: like I was like, damn, they got carpet on the floor.

660
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: So I walked in. I'm looking at the carpet and

661
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Dog, I just passed out, passed

662
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: if I out. And the reason I passed out because

663
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: one of the guys on the team, Keith, Keith Henderson,

664
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: who was like a blue Chip, had hit me in

665
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: the solar plex, knocked me out. He said, what the

666
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: funk up? So what then you doing? You got them

667
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: shoes on the carpet and Chip, I was like what.

668
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: And then all the seniors you know, was hazing me

669
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: and Ship like that, and and it was just like

670
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: a feeling that you couldn't imagine. Bro, They hazed me

671
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: and Ship. But then when I got out there on

672
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: the team and being fifteen, Bro, I ended up starting

673
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: on the team, got a got a super super interception

674
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: on a on a scrimmage. You had to go scrimmage McKinney,

675
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: McKinney lines, and uh, the one thing I knew. I

676
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: knew all my plays and Ship, but they had marsh

677
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: all the way down the field. They ran a little bootleg,

678
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: got stepped in front of got the interception. Bro. My

679
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: whole life change. And when people talk about I called

680
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: to motherfucking interception Bro. And I went from being a

681
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: sophomore to Eric Bischer. You know what I'm saying, and

682
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: and it was like I still people asked me, how big,

683
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: What's the biggest moment of my life? And that was

684
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: the biggest moment, getting that intercession and proven to these

685
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that I could do it. And then from then on, man,

686
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I became a quarterback my junior year. Then I went

687
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: to pass for over a thousand yards uh my my

688
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: senior year with one intersection. But you know it was crazy.

689
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: He was Jamis Winston before Jameis Winston. Yeah, it was.

690
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: It was kind of bad because I was a stat stuffer.

691
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: I held us. I had a newspaper status in my

692
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: in my pocket. I'm looking. I mean, I need nine

693
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: more yards I need to get. But yeah, remember sponsors everything.

694
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: And then I went to U. I went to State.

695
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: In the high jump, I was five seven or five eight,

696
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: but I was jumped the six six. And then you

697
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: played some hoop too, right, yeah, but that was later, man,

698
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Like our hoop team was terrible, you know, like you know,

699
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: like how you go to basketball gyms and they got

700
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: the banners the championships. I banner said, welcome, that's it,

701
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: that's it. But you know, WEAKEL had all the basketball bats.

702
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: We had the basketball players. Yeah. We we played against

703
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: Dallas linking a lot in the state championship, but put

704
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: out the leak in the Dallas leak. We both got

705
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: a lot of stapship championships. Yeah, man, And poured author

706
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: with that track, Motherfucker's to fly. They don't know Jack

707
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: right there, the voice is running from the cops. Got

708
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: him on the track. Good. That's all good. The best

709
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: way to get fast steal something. Yeah. Did you were

710
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: in the band back then too? Right? Man? That wasn't

711
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: all kinds of bands. Me and my boy had a

712
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: band called ex Caliber Dog. We was you know, I

713
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: was trying to get on ex Calibu. So some like

714
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: cassette tape days. Man, you know, uh but I remember

715
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: we was like at a you know, the little talent

716
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: shows the ship at the school. Man. I had my

717
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: curl and ship. You said question because said this ship

718
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: was dry? Was your curl wet or dry? My ship

719
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: was dried off? Why I didn't? I didn't use the

720
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: stay sofer. I used some ship called Hollywood curl. So

721
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a cream. You put

722
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the mouth again there and then you know it stayed dry.

723
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: So when girls see me. I used to tell him

724
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: I was Dominican, was real. Man, Go man, go man,

725
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: got stares rying, you know what I'm saying. They had

726
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: to keep your ship dry. The ship too wet. It's

727
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: like at the Hollywood Current. We had a curl that

728
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: could have been on the side of one of their boxes.

729
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: You had a real curl back then that like I

730
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: want number seven. Let me tell you, nigga, let me

731
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: tell you something better than that. I had the picture

732
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: of them niggas ready for the World, and I took

733
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: it into the shop of the shop. I said, I

734
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: need this, right girl, dog, I need Melvin Riley. I

735
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: need Melvin Riley from Ready for the World. So they

736
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: put the ship and my ship. I had a h

737
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: It was low on the front, long in the back

738
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: of ship like Nelvin Raley. It looked like a Z

739
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight because I had the lower and long. So nigga,

740
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: so ready for the world, come to Reunion Arena. I

741
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: got tickets dog row six, and I swear to God,

742
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I swear to guy. When Melvin Riley came out, he

743
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: looked at me and said, but I did like this,

744
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: I said, and you see this, you know what I'm saying,

745
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: curl swing and sitting looking good all the way. And

746
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: then when I finally got it, and how well it

747
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: was crazy is man? I finally get on and Melvin

748
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: Riley came to my house. I said, motherfucker, I said, yeah,

749
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: that's how That's how great God is. Man. It's like

750
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: I ended up getting on and then having him at

751
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: the crib. I said, man, you don't remember me, Like, no,

752
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: remember I had your curling rows six all that. But

753
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: you know what the music was everything, man, music. I

754
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: was always just trying to get into the music, you know,

755
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: playing writing songs and ship and you know, singing line

756
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: of Richie songs back in the day, you know, to

757
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: the girls, hello, all them ships. You know. I was

758
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: just mimicking everything. And then now it's crazy, how now

759
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: these people like in my cell phone you know what

760
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like it's like blessings, like you can't believe.

761
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: So you went to college to study music performing arts? Um,

762
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: when did you get into the stand up? Stand up comedy?

763
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: Get When I got to San Diego doing music, I

764
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: was in a college like International college. It was eighty

765
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: one different countries in mine that were representing my school.

766
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: So I would do the music in San Diego, but

767
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: I would drive up to l A do the common clubs.

768
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Or I would do Lahorea the comedy store down in Lahorea.

769
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: And I was only eighteen, so I couldn't get in

770
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: the club, so they would make me wait outside the club.

771
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Then bring me in, let

772
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: me do my stand up. So I was constantly like,

773
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, since I was clowning, since I was a kid,

774
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was constantly working on my uh you know,

775
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: working on the craft. And I got there earlier, and

776
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: that was the big thing. Was like using the college

777
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: as a sort of like a landing pad. But since

778
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: l A was only you know, ship an hour and

779
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: a half away, I would come up here and get

780
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: it popping. And then my my uncle was assistant chief

781
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: of police of a school districts and Mel Brown he said,

782
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: he said, I know you uh, I know you're saying

783
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: and stuff. I said, yeah, he said, you come on

784
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: over here, and I don't want you to uh meet

785
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: Harvey Food Quap. I sew who that? He said, that's

786
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Marvin Gaye man. So I'm like I'm thinking, no, no, no,

787
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: gout that Marvin Gay Man ship out here. Man, I'm drunk.

788
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: So he gave me an address and then he's a

789
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: joking motherfucker. So I'm thinking that's a fake address. But

790
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: I get there. It's in Brentwood. And when I look

791
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: on the um on the mailbox and says Dorothy Gay

792
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: and Freeman and knocking knock on the door, and Harvey

793
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Football comes to George, this big black dude. He said,

794
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: you wanted to sing? I said yeah. He said, come

795
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: on end. So when I went in the apartment, I

796
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: looked to the left and it was these reel the

797
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: reels and keyboards and ship and he said you see that?

798
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: Said yeah, he said, that's Marvin Gaye's keyboards, the last

799
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: thing he played before he died. And bro I sat

800
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: down and started playing, and the dude was like, yo, man,

801
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: you got it. And so I started like singing and

802
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: ship like that, and he started having me come to

803
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: the crib and and I was trying to get on.

804
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: At one point it got a little weird because you

805
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: were having me singing Marvin gay songs all the time,

806
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: having people come over. Uh, And I was like, yo, man,

807
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I know you're missing Marvin and stuff, but I want

808
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to I want to get my own thing, he said.

809
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: I apologize, man, he said, you know, we had just

810
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: lost him a too long ago. So cool. So I

811
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: basically became like his uh his, like his assistant, like

812
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: filing stuff for so like I just you know, just

813
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: stay around the house and bro. This is a crazy story.

814
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: At one point, I was following these cassette tapes, right

815
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: and I picked up one cassette tape to seeing what

816
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: was on it, and I pressed play and it was

817
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: it was the original of sexual and I'm like, damn,

818
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: they gets four o'clock in the morning. I'm like, I

819
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: could take this ship and get some money for this ship.

820
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: And that I went walk, I went. I went and

821
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: woke him up. I said, man, you gotta tell me

822
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: about this. He said, yeah, man, I got a lot

823
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: of them Ben Saince he was working on. I said,

824
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: tell me about that night, man. He said, this is

825
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: what it was. Marvin was in the studio. It's like

826
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning, and I'm like, Marvin, man,

827
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: let's go. Man, it's late, you know. And he had

828
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: connected all these little, uh these tape machines together working

829
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: on this track, and he said, yeah, I know it's late,

830
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: he says, but where's Marylyn? He said, Man, Marylyn sleep

831
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: right here on the couch. Man, let's go, and he goes,

832
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: get up, man, Wake up Mary, Get up, man, he said.

833
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: Then I got it. Run the tape back, bump, get up, bro.

834
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: That's that's how crazy is that? So that's I I

835
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: called myself to Black Forest gun Bro, because I've just

836
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: been like in every nook and cranny of his business.

837
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: And then you know, Ship worked out talked us little bit.

838
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: How you landed that in Living Color role? I had

839
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: got on this one TV show called Rock, but for

840
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: some reason they fired They fired me, and some ship

841
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: went down on going down. But I got fired and

842
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I shot the pilot and I told everybody in tarrell

843
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: it I was gonna be on the pilot. And when

844
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: the pilot came out, you know I wasn't on that

845
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: said my grandmother thought I was like here doing drugs

846
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: and some ship. I was like, damn, I gotta get

847
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: to ship, right, And so then the show and Living

848
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Color was looking for other comedians and I went in

849
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: and put it like the cattle call. So went from

850
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: a hundred to fifty to five to ten down to five,

851
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: So it was me and for the cash, right, and

852
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, during the audition part, I was blowing

853
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: that ship. I wasn't doing good. But then Keenan said, look,

854
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I want to see y'all do stand up and I

855
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Ship, and the other four people didn't

856
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: do stand up comedy even though so they had to

857
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: this when the laugh Factor we first started. So I

858
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: go down to the laugh Factory. But I was late

859
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: on purpose because I wanted to go last. So when

860
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: I go up, you know, like in the hood, Like

861
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: in the hood, you always play your music, because that's

862
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: where I came from, like robbing Harris because so I

863
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: told him. You know, I was like, I got my

864
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: music and Ship I had a queued up. But the

865
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: laugh Factor is more like the white place. So I said,

866
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: play the music. They didn't play the music. I was like, oh, Ship.

867
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: So I went up there and just started freestyling some

868
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: Ship and in the audience was Keenan and Jim Carrey

869
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: and the Flag Girls. But I did this one joke, bro,

870
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: and it was about uh. I said, black and white people,

871
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: black and white men. Uh uh. The only difference is

872
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the heartbeat because the average the average black man. The

873
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: average white man's heart beats like this, right, while the

874
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: average black man's heart beats like this. They're going crazy

875
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: going then, I said, ladies, I said, ladies, I said, ladies.

876
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: That's why when you made can love. I'm not saying

877
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: who's better, but who would you rather make love to?

878
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: Somebody like this or would you rather make love to

879
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: an ovation? Bro? I saw Keena, everybody going crazy man,

880
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: the Flag Girls and Boom. I was on the show

881
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: where did you get the motivation for some of the characters?

882
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: You you know, made your career off of Wanda? Oh Man, Man, listen,

883
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: you know what Wanda came from. Just you know how

884
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker run on time. I grew up girl, So so

885
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, you take all them girls that you grew

886
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: up with that type of ship and you bring them up. Man.

887
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: You know how Texas is man and all where about being?

888
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: But that came on one night I had ran out

889
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: of material and I just said, hey, all the pretty

890
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: girls makes you know, pretty girls clapping? I said, now

891
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: all the ugly girls, let me hear you say something.

892
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: And it was complete size. I said, man, look at

893
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: all the up girl was talking about talking about it

894
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: started like that, I did that character after audition. So

895
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: when Keenan said, hey, man, do that motherfucking other girl

896
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: that you do? Uh for one of the for one

897
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: of the shows. So he reached in his bag bro

898
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: found his blond as wig and it was like, I'll

899
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: rock your world and that. Yeah, but that but I

900
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: needed that because if you think about it, living coloring

901
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: all those characters that were doing at the time, you

902
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: needed to get a character. It's not that was gonna fire, yeah,

903
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: because you know, it's just like it's like any basketball team,

904
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: you was gonna get cut. So that character took off, man,

905
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: and then like it took off, and I loved it.

906
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: But then I had to shed that ship because like

907
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker's was, you know, like the girls ship.

908
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: And he was coming up to me in clubs and

909
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: you only give you the bit. I said, hold on,

910
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember this crazy I remember Johnny Gil

911
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: Johnny Guild. Johnny Gil said some one time to go.

912
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: He said, hey, hey, my my mind, n hold on.

913
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: So so I didn't want to get stuck in the motherfucker.

914
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I just had to keep coming to

915
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: other characters so I could keep hitting my different ships.

916
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: So you know, they say, I don't just do her,

917
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: I do all these How instrumental was Keenan every way

918
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: is not only in for a living color, but launching

919
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: and giving guys like yourself, Jim Carey, I mean, David

920
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Allen Greer, Tommy Davidson that platform to go on you.

921
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: If you think about that cast, I'm sure you've done it.

922
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: But all you guys went on to long, successful longevity

923
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: and whatever profession and you know, whatever reil we wanted

924
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: to do. Compared to that coach, that was really hard on.

925
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: I remem m Keenan saying listen, you gotta prove yourself.

926
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think it was funny as everybody else,

927
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: but at the same time, what he did was when

928
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: you walk on the set, bro, it was all black people,

929
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: black writers, black people working. I said, damn mind the

930
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: right spot. It was all black. But he held that

931
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: ship here all of you you had to be absolutely

932
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: air tight. But what it was, man, he had his

933
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: finger on the culture. Bro. He knew the music. He

934
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: had to fly girls. But every time we went out

935
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: to do some jokes like, we would come to keen

936
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: and said, yo, man, we don't think the writers is

937
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: writing funny And I said, yes they are, y'all. Motherfucker's

938
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: just saying trying. And he would take whatever that was written.

939
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: He would look through that ship. He said, go try this,

940
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, bro, we would have

941
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: talked of the town on that Monday morning. So it's

942
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: like he was he was constantly like he would constantly

943
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: put us in competition with each other. You know, Tommy

944
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: Davidson killing that ship. Uh, David Evan Rear killing that ship.

945
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: Everybody was killing and what he did was he made

946
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: it sexy. It was like everybody came to the show.

947
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: J Loo was on the show. I remember seeing j Lo.

948
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: The first time I saw j Loo, I said, hey, man,

949
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm not hitting on you. You're the most beautiful person

950
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: in the world. I said, I got a girl. I said,

951
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: but congratulations and she was like she was chilling that ship.

952
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: And so we became friends. And then, like if you

953
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: think about it, back at the time, every hip hop

954
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: star he was seeing the future. All the hip hop

955
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: is coming to a living color. Yeah, man, you have Uh.

956
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley was in Dots Affect everybody. So he taught

957
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: you how to be fly with your ship like you

958
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: could be funny but at the same time be super fly.

959
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh that was you know what I'm saying. So to

960
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: this day, we're still rocket Man and and and those

961
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: guys are still doing their thing. And uh, it's because

962
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: of those early lessons. Keenan never ran because I don't.

963
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we hear him mention enough to you know,

964
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: to to that man he gave to the game. He

965
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: he put, he put all that ship together, and he

966
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: had a motherfucker nervous dog. Look, we're supposed to be

967
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: there at ten. I got there nine fifty nine. Pulled

968
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: me out to meeting. While you're late, I said, it's

969
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: nights nine, No nine, No, we started working in a ten.

970
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: So you gotta give me an answer. I said, like, like,

971
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 1: like what, you better figure it out. You can standing

972
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: out here to figure it out. I'm not talking a

973
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 1: damn Maybe I got a principle, like what the fund?

974
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: And so I would just sleep on the set so

975
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be late, because you know, I'll come out

976
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: the club. And I come out of the club, I

977
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: was AI and be talking about practice, and I'm talking

978
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: about I was supposed to be franchise player. So I

979
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: was just go straight to the set and then just

980
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: wake up. I'll be on time the Jamie Foxx show,

981
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: something I watch, you know Fancy Braxton. You know Mama

982
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: talked to us how that came about and how you

983
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: end upetting that off the ground. To be honest with you, Bro,

984
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: I had ran out of money. Uh, and Living Color

985
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: was over. I remember, you know, l A tough on

986
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: you too. Right after the Living Color was I was riding.

987
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: I had this little BMW with the top there, and

988
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm riding down the street like on sunset or something,

989
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: and Uh, I hear somebody say that ship over, motherfucker.

990
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: I was, damn that over, motherfucker's I said, got there.

991
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: It was bad, and I remember like Chris Tucker was

992
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: coming up. I remember Chris Tucker was coming young. I

993
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: was like, god, damn you hit. And I remember this

994
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: girl ran up to me. She said, oh my god.

995
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? She said, do you know where

996
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker is? I said, oh the fuck. So I

997
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: had moved to Vegas, bro, because I ran out of money.

998
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: And then uh, this this this this network called the

999
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: w b UH was starting their network, and so I

1000
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: went in and met with them and said, I got

1001
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: this idea and people probably have to google this, but

1002
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: there was this uh English television show called Fawlty Towers

1003
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: with John Kleaves and it was like the Benny Hill

1004
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: and all the type of yeah, all of all of them.

1005
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: So I saw that hotel show. I said, hey, man,

1006
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: I want to do a show like that where I I,

1007
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: my my, my, my, my aunt and aunt were in

1008
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: the hotel and I come to work there. And by

1009
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: having the hotel we can have different people fall through then,

1010
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so they was like, okay, cool,

1011
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: we dig it. We're just trying to get going. So

1012
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: they gave me the opportunity, and bro, I remember the upfront.

1013
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: You know you gotta go to the upfront to announce

1014
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: your show. Bro, I didn't even have a limo. It

1015
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: was like I went to getting the limo and some

1016
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: ladies slapt my hand. That's not for you, that's for

1017
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: uh Savannah and some of the shold man limo and

1018
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: they put me in a van. I'm like, oh, bring

1019
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: it up. You know that plain white panel van. I said,

1020
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: damn nigg So finally the show come out, though bro

1021
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: it did sign Feld numbers. It did like like she's

1022
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: like the fourteen or something like that. And then it

1023
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: just caught, you know, and then uh, fancy fancy came

1024
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: from the r. Kelly video grassing of course, Garrett Morris

1025
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: and all them, and you do you don't know when

1026
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: you're doing it, bro, but it just it just all

1027
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: came together and it became like this thing that people,

1028
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, people gravitated to them and and it was

1029
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: it was on absolutely I loved that ship that was

1030
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: dough ninety six. Gary McGuire movie comes out. You went

1031
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: out for tid Well, Uh they end up giving up

1032
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: the Cuba goodon Junior? How bad did you want that role?

1033
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Because I was the dope movie. Bro. It was. It

1034
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: was crazy because you know, the dude saw me read

1035
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: for it and says he's gonna love it. I said,

1036
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: who tc, Tom Cruise gonna love it? I said, what? So, Bro,

1037
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: I ended up reading with Tom Cruise. It flew me

1038
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: to New York, you know, but you know I wasn't

1039
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: used to seeing a big stars and ship, you know,

1040
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: So in the reading, Bro, I'm reading the ship and

1041
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm from TV shows, reading kind of

1042
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: loud and then I was like, yeah, show me the money,

1043
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, looking at Tom Cruise like yeah,

1044
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: show me, you know what I mean? And Tom here

1045
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: was you know here movie actor. So his voice was soft,

1046
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: he said, so I couldn't hear him. So I thought

1047
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: he had lost his place. I said, uh we right

1048
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: here says I know, I've already said my life. I'm

1049
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: waiting on you, and you know, mother got nervous and

1050
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: ship started sweating. I blew it. And after I blew it,

1051
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I was like, damn no, I blew this ship. The

1052
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: the producer was mad at me, and then uh, Cuba

1053
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: Gooding got it right. But then when Collateral came up.

1054
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: When Collateral came up, Tom Cruise remembered that him and

1055
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: Michael Man and boom he liked to read and boom

1056
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: and so you know what ended up being limits turning

1057
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: out being eliminated because we did Collateral and we actually

1058
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: get nominated for Collateral. So you know, just just hanging

1059
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: in there, man, you know, making that shift pop. I

1060
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: was like, man, I can't. I can't missing free throws

1061
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: like that because I'm Mr free throws out. I missed

1062
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: that any giving Sunday, Yeah, how did that role. Come

1063
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: about that start that start your sophomore year when you

1064
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: got punched in the Solar PLEXI he was traded to

1065
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: be a really baby and then I didn't even know man,

1066
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: but it was crazy. It was crazy because Oliver Stone

1067
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: directed it and basically Puffy was supposed to play the part.

1068
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: But Puffy was you know, he was dealing with big

1069
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: businesses and everything like that. So, uh, Oliver Stone at

1070
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: one point when I came in to read again in

1071
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, he said I was horrible, Bro, because I

1072
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: was like reading loud, and she says, fuck, is you

1073
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: reads so loud? You this television ship is sucking me up.

1074
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: So what I did was, Bro, I had just got

1075
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: that ninety seven coop, that Mercedes, I got a cam

1076
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: qorter bro, put on my football gear, took all my

1077
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: homies gut and just started like like I was in

1078
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: a like I was in training camp, Bro. And while

1079
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: we was doing the training camp ship, I came up

1080
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: with a song. My name was Wally with money. I

1081
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: keep the ladies creaming and all the fast you gotta

1082
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: scream and think you can't be feak me, You're dreaming.

1083
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: So we made this song up and Bro, I showed

1084
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: him the tape. That's who the funk I'm looking for

1085
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: right now, That's who I want. So we started in

1086
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: and give him Sunday Bro, and we're shooting that ship

1087
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: in Miami. I need to get paid. All the money

1088
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: that I got, Bro, I spent it in Miami. I

1089
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: was just the first time Nika absolute z bro said

1090
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: the dog I had a ball. Nikka was in Miami

1091
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: with mess shirts and and Farrari's and ship. I was

1092
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: fucking I was on allay man and then you think

1093
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: about everybody that's in it. Alfaccino, uh Jim Brown, Lawrence Taylor,

1094
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: uh L, Dennis Quay, Me and ll was fighting. That

1095
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: ship was real. Ain't never yet count us about that

1096
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: because I heard you touched on that. I heard there

1097
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: was some real ship going on with that was his

1098
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: feeling on that, Yo. What what what happened was is

1099
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: that for some reason, like he he kept slapping me,

1100
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: he thought I think he thought it was a little

1101
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: bit real in the in the movie, like Nigga, we're

1102
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: not really on the fucking team, like we really don't

1103
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: have to get to practice, like we're going to say action.

1104
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: But you know it was. But I think That's what

1105
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: made the movie real because we was like really competitive,

1106
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: but we were doing the scene and the motherfucker put

1107
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: the motherfucker pushed me in the scene, bro, and I

1108
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: swear to god, I landed and somebody else to set.

1109
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: I went back so far, I said, what the fund?

1110
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: And so then he got testy, man, and we got

1111
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: to scrap it on whatever like that. You know, but

1112
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: you know Green, you know I won't get the whole

1113
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: another set. I woke up in Jerry mcgrin said, why

1114
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: does this thing? Has Niver pushed me like this? Man?

1115
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: You know this ain't a real movie. But you know,

1116
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: we worked the ship that week. Were cool now but

1117
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: at the time and sort of goofy, but if fueled

1118
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: the scene because when we was doing them scenes and

1119
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: Willie Beamon was going through a ship, that ship was

1120
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: real man, because it's like, you know, you know how

1121
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: this is man. You get competitive, you know, you get

1122
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: really competitive, and girls on the set, and you know

1123
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I was. I was so wild. Every time every time

1124
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: I showed up to the set, I had a Hummer,

1125
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: had a different car every time. You know, I was

1126
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: playing the whole role. Had the girls in the car

1127
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: and ship showing up to the set, so I was

1128
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I was out in my mind, bro. But it as

1129
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: far as just the acting goes, like that speech. Everybody

1130
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: remember the Alpaccino speech, right, Here's the fun fact. Alpaccino

1131
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: was having a tough time with that speech because he

1132
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: ain't never been around football. That's that's where I I

1133
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: knew football. So when he was he was trying to

1134
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: get that speech off, I said, hey, I said, out,

1135
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: when you talking to these players, they want your players,

1136
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: they're your family. I said, a lot of these players

1137
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: come from the hood. They only father is you, So

1138
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: you gotta talk some like it's your father. Man. That

1139
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: motherfucker turned up on you. Motherfucker turning in your fighting motherfucker,

1140
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: I said, job, he was, how was the football sayings?

1141
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: That I know? They had to be dope to shoot?

1142
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: How was the football sayings? I wanted to do all

1143
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: of my stunts right, So we would shoot all night,

1144
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: but they would shoot the football scenes during the day.

1145
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: So I would go sleep for like two or three

1146
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: hours and then go to the B team and then shoot,

1147
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: put the mic on when when the director wasn't there,

1148
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: and shoot my own football scenes. Because I didn't want nobody.

1149
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I all wanted it to be me. By doing that,

1150
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: I got the lion share of the park because the

1151
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: way all of the Stone wrote the movie is that

1152
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: he wrote it for everybody's narrative. But since I would

1153
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 1: go to boast man, I was working like eighteen hours

1154
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: a day, bro, But I wanted to get their football right.

1155
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: And they didn't know that I could really throw that thing,

1156
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: because I could throw the thing about fifty sixty yards

1157
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: in the air. So I was there and are getting

1158
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: man and if it felt good, and it's like all

1159
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: that ship that we had in Texas, it all came

1160
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: into play. Even when it came into I said, hey,

1161
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: because sometimes they want to do a movie ship like

1162
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: I want you to drop back and didn't do a spin.

1163
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: I said, they don't do that in the NFL. Back

1164
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: you got a certain amount of time we got to

1165
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: get the ship off. And so by having that background,

1166
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: it made it look authentic, you know what I'm saying.

1167
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: And then but the one thing I did do, though

1168
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: I took a hit there was like you wanna take

1169
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: a mother don't given motherfucking Texas. Don't hit me. They

1170
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: don't get I don't know, motherfucking after nick, I'm I'm

1171
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: a real athlete, man, just a little motherfucker's safe came

1172
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: through my motherfucking nigga this part of my helmet, and

1173
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: I said, hey man, anybody else hitting me, they're gonna

1174
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: get fired. Don't how motherfucker putting my ship back here,

1175
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: so you know, And it was crazy because t O

1176
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: was done their mother and t O was a beast.

1177
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: They told TiO said line because you know it was

1178
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: it was pro football players against the arena league guy.

1179
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: So To was lining up all the dvs and said

1180
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: they could guard him. He was killing them. And at

1181
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: one point they ran up the running reverse for t

1182
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: O and he ran off the set his mother's and

1183
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: the motherfucker dude with the camera said you think you

1184
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: can can you can keep up with him? I got him,

1185
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: like I just turned look out, I got it. Motherfucker

1186
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: took off the mother's running cooled, both his hands blew

1187
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: out on the tires of the fo. We don't have

1188
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: to hear you slow down, t say, s I better.

1189
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: You've played some amazing supporting roles leading up to obviously

1190
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: where you were the main star. You know. Obviously any

1191
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: given Sunday he played alongside Will Smith and Ali Tom

1192
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: Cruise in Collateral. Looking back on that, what does that

1193
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: mean to you? And what resonates the most about all that?

1194
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: I always give props to to Uh, to Will Smith.

1195
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: He wanted me to play Bundeini Brown and Ali Muhammad.

1196
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Ali is a property. How are you gonna be? God? Shuck?

1197
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you come out to the garage? But number two?

1198
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have had the opportunity had he not

1199
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: told the director, Yo, I'm rocking with Fox, or I

1200
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: don't do the film, And so yeah, it's been and

1201
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: you know they don't happen in Hollywood, man, you know

1202
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: they don't happen in our business. So my main thing

1203
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: was that being those characters, alongside those guys. I wanted

1204
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: to be that Scottie Pipple. I wanted to be that

1205
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: person because I knew that that if Will Smith is

1206
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: doing Ali, especially with the Ali, because it was so

1207
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: important and Will was such a big star and it's

1208
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: a a big star. Um. I was there to make

1209
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: sure that he didn't have to worry about what I

1210
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: was doing. This part of the movie is gonna be

1211
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: solid and you don't realize it, but you're hanging another

1212
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: character in the rafters. That's sort of like if we're

1213
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: referring to Basketball, all of my characters when I look

1214
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: at him, Man, if it's Wander or Willie Beamon, Bun,

1215
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: Bundy Brown or all these characters, I hang them up.

1216
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: So whenever you get a chance to do the character

1217
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: on that type of level, Um, I want to be

1218
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: able to look back at my career and say, man,

1219
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: I turned into all these different people and sold it.

1220
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like you know what I'm saying.

1221
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: So it's like I take that and and now to

1222
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: this day, man, and in our business, you know, as

1223
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: much as you put into it, you can continue to

1224
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: work and continue to find shi. So I feel like

1225
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm just still just getting started. It's party two too

1226
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: late to started acting career. Man, it ain't never too late. Man,

1227
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Come on, man, jack what you wanna do? Man? The

1228
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: movie Steven Jackson, I'll make love to pressure. There you go.

1229
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a segment for that at the end.

1230
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, hold on, we're gonna get to that. Definitely.

1231
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: I love hearing that. To me, It's it's hard to

1232
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: embody when you're playing a public figure or another famous figure.

1233
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: You were able to do it obviously with Ray Charles.

1234
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: You mentioned you're working on the Mike Tyson movie as well.

1235
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit more about that? Yeah, man, uh,

1236
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: you know I've been looking. When I went on stage

1237
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: in the Hood Comedy Act theater, right, I started killing, killing,

1238
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: killing as a young, young, young comedian. Right. But one

1239
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: particular night, I'm on stage and I get to my

1240
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson joke because that's my best joke. Everybody go

1241
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: crazy on that joke. And I get to that joke

1242
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: and I do it and nobody laughed. You know why,

1243
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: because Mike Tyson's in the audience. Nigga's out here. The

1244
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: niggas said it was black. It was something in the

1245
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: back stage, Joe, Mike is here here. I said, oh Ship,

1246
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: And then you know, everybody was like you my frightful

1247
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: And then a little black a little black girl was

1248
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: in the front. What you're gonna do, Jamie, You're scared,

1249
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna do your jokes and like this, shut up up.

1250
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: This is where Mike was knocking. Mom fucker's out for

1251
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: just smiling and Ship. So I was like damn. So

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: then the dude, you know that said your. Mike said,

1253
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: do the joke and that ship better be funny. Crowd

1254
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: went from looking at Mike and then looked at me.

1255
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: So I do the joke, Mike Tyson, Kentucky Fried Chicken,

1256
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: whatever the joke was, right, I think I did the joke.

1257
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: The joke was Mike Mike Tyson driving No, it was

1258
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: me driving up to Kentucky Fried Chicken. And I said

1259
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't see, but I heard, and I thought Michael.

1260
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: I thought Mike Tyson was. I was working at Kentucky

1261
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: Fried Chicken because I heard Hi, Chicken, take your orders

1262
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: and this. I was like, oh ship, so standing ovation

1263
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: And after that, Mike comes up to me and says, Verry,

1264
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: it's the crazy motherfucking just punched me in the chairs.

1265
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm okay man. So I started hanging out with

1266
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: Mike and Bro. He was bigger than the world. He

1267
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: was bigger in all the My to do had a

1268
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: Lamborghini truck. We'll be at the club. He see a girl,

1269
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: his be like, hey, you like BMW, you like card,

1270
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: you like Bess? And I mean, like what And he

1271
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: would go to BMW shot just buy one. I've watched

1272
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Mike his whole career. And then I watched The Good,

1273
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: the Great, the Bad, and the Ugly and now this Mike,

1274
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: And so I said, Mike, you have to let me

1275
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: embody you. You have to let me tell your story.

1276
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: And so now Martin Scorsese, who hasn't done a boxing

1277
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 1: movie since Raging Bull, has agreed to take on the helm.

1278
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about the movie, I said,

1279
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: what's interesting about Mike. It's not the ring now, it's

1280
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the mic that we see now. It's the mic that

1281
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: when he lost it all. When I called Mike one time,

1282
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: I said, Mike, how you doing it? And it's this

1283
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: voice all crases to allow my brother to attack. So

1284
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: why are you happy? I'm happy. I don't have any

1285
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: money anymore. I don't have the money. Said why do

1286
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: you said that? Why why does it make that? It

1287
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: because no one could take anything from anymore vultures. Nobody

1288
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: has to try and take taking from me. So I'm

1289
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: just happy. I said, that's the person. We gotta show,

1290
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: the person who lived the life. And he'll tell you

1291
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: I either live on top of the mountain on the

1292
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean. I said, when we embody that,

1293
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: I said that Mike when I play you, I'm gonna

1294
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna embody you so well that when I walk

1295
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: into your house, your kids will run up and say,

1296
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: Dad's hard. So it's it's gonna be one of those ones.

1297
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm telling you, and it's it's and you

1298
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: remember the I don't want to give too much of

1299
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: the way, but a lot of it. We bounced back

1300
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: and forth to the documentary of him being in the documentary.

1301
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: So when I strapped that one on, that's gonna be

1302
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: When should we expect that in theaters if theaters come back. Yeah, Well,

1303
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: you know the thing is now, by having this lapse,

1304
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: it gives us a little bit of time to like

1305
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: correct some things we want on the script, so so

1306
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: we you don't be being able to touch all the basis.

1307
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: But you're looking at two thousand twenty one, the beginning

1308
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: of it, shooting it, and then possibly at the end

1309
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: of the year unveiling. So um, look, man, I think

1310
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: Mike's come on, man, that that era in that time,

1311
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: his unprecedented president. Let's talk a little. You touched on

1312
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: Ray Charles earlier, but being able to embody him the

1313
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: way you did, what kind of historical significance does that

1314
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: mean to you? Because he was so important to our

1315
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: culture as a whole, and for you to be able

1316
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: to embody that, how important was that to you? I

1317
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: think it was super important because we don't always get

1318
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: a chance to tell our legend stories, and so that

1319
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: was the first time we got a chance to see

1320
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: a legend and all of his glory, his good, he's bad,

1321
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: and his ugly and at the same time present the

1322
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: music in a way to where the whole world was affected.

1323
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: I mean. And the backstory of is that it was

1324
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: an independent film, so we had to We got a

1325
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: little bit of the money from Phil and Shoes who

1326
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: you know on the stapleson, but we had to prove

1327
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: to him that it was uh, it was worth it.

1328
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: So at one point we created the Singer Theater in

1329
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven and we did let the Good Times Roll.

1330
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the movie, but we had to do

1331
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: it for the investors to let them see it. So

1332
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: we had a thirty piece orchestra. The investors walk in,

1333
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: the director says hit it, and we go boom, Hey,

1334
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: y'all tell everybody great Charles in town. Boom got a

1335
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: dot on the card up and I'm just ready of

1336
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: the clown. Don't let nobody playing your cheek. I got

1337
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: thicker bits fall and our planning a kid for let

1338
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: it get to our role spent bad. I'm all s

1339
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: s bad. Just get yourself to let the good time go.

1340
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: I go up to man Steve Steve. Then I go

1341
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: up to the to the to the investor and said,

1342
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: I understand the big pocket the money is, so we

1343
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: get so we get the money. I had to set

1344
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: up and then once we do the movie, man, think

1345
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: about how the movie moved the culture after the moa uh,

1346
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Kanye West, Kanye West, after the movie Kanye West. I

1347
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: mean because like going back to the parties that I

1348
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: was thrown. The way I met Kanye was at the

1349
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: party Brian, Brian. That's that's why people looking at Brian

1350
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: dance and he just don't dance. Someone pushed it together.

1351
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: The motherfucker brought He brought this that same party that

1352
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: I was telling you about the jay z and everything.

1353
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: The next party, Brian says, I got this dude named

1354
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: Kanye West. I said, what's a Kanye West? He said, listen,

1355
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling some motherfucker cole. So when Kanye came over.

1356
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: I said, I said, Brian, what do you do? He said,

1357
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: he rapped? He produced. I said, okay. So I walked

1358
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: up to Kanye and said, hey, man, you know when

1359
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: people come to my house, man, they gotta perform. Man.

1360
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: They said, you're wrapped. This motherfucker freestyle some ship man Steve.

1361
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: I said that. God damn, how come you ain't famous?

1362
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: He says, I'm trying to get on and he goes, uh,

1363
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: I got this song that that I think you'll be

1364
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: good on. Yuh, I think you'd be good on the song.

1365
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 1: And so well, what is it? I got a studio

1366
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: on the back. So we go on the back of

1367
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: my studio and the motherfucker said the song go. She

1368
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: says she wants some marvn game, some Luther vange Yaw.

1369
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: I said, oh, ship, I said, I got it. So

1370
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: I started singing. I started singing the ship all high

1371
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: and said he said, and this one I knew Kanye

1372
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: was boss. He said, uh, what you're doing? I said,

1373
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to put the rmb ship on, because

1374
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm sing RMBC, I'm putting the R

1375
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: and B. Don't do that just singing this ship record.

1376
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 1: So when he said that, I thought like, oh, you know,

1377
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: Stone ain't gonna make it. The next thing, you know,

1378
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: Brion was like, remember that song you said you want

1379
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: to make. It's a number one in the country. Fast forward,

1380
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: fast forward, it's number one in the country. And then

1381
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: Ray Charles comes out. Brian hit me again said wake

1382
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: your grass up, with your gass up, with your ass up.

1383
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: He said everything three times. He said, get down here. Uh,

1384
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: Kanye gotta missile. And this is after Ray Charles that

1385
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: came out. So I get to the studio and Brian said,

1386
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: just follow my leave whatever you do, follow my lady.

1387
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: So we're going there and Kanye is playing the track

1388
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: to gold Digging Thum, I ain't saying she gold digging well,

1389
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: but she ain't miss I said, oh ship, Brian hit

1390
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: stopped on the record and said that ship is whack

1391
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: and let you put a fox on that. Mother and said, Brian,

1392
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: what you doing? He said, mother, you know what I'm doing.

1393
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: Just get in the studio. So I get in the booth,

1394
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: bro and we take over the session and we keep

1395
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: going over and over and I said, running back, running

1396
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: back again, and I said, and then the next year,

1397
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, about an hour on the hand, she take

1398
01:12:53,040 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: mama yea trend. Indeed, Oh she's Aliger where over black

1399
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: Man two Facts, two thousand and six Grammy Awards. With

1400
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: Grammy Awards, you get a chance to perform Georgia on

1401
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: My Mind with Alicia Keys. Yeah, talk to us about

1402
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 1: that at that point. Man, you know this is you know,

1403
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: movies have a it's like an it opens up like

1404
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: a flower. So that's when the flowers full bloom. Now

1405
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: we get a chance to uh celebrate Ray Charles music

1406
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: on the highest level with the incredibly talented Alicia Keys

1407
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones at the time was was a conductor, which

1408
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: was beautiful. We had lost Ray Charles. Ray Charles had transitioned,

1409
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 1: but he got a chance to view the movie in

1410
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: his own way. And so here we are, you know,

1411
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: dual pianos with me and Alicia, and it was just great. Man,

1412
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: she's amazing, is in so super talented. And but there

1413
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: was one situation where I felt like the song, I

1414
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: felt like we were playing it, you know, straight, but

1415
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: I felt like we needed to put a little sauce

1416
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: on it because it's Alicia and it's myself. So it's

1417
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: like Georga Arga, the whole d Angel. It's like the

1418
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: old Freeze song Jorga all my mind right. And I said, Alicia,

1419
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: why don't we take a page from Biggie when we

1420
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: do the when we do the bridge boom boom boom

1421
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: boom boom or the read child to Ming boom boom

1422
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. So we put a little thing

1423
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: in there just to sort of not you know, to

1424
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: the hip hop to the to the so yeah, and

1425
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: then and I said that when we're doing it, boom

1426
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. And I told the baseline to

1427
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: go do the do Doom Do Do Do Do Do

1428
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: Do doom boom boom boom boom boom. So to be

1429
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: able to not only be in that moment, but do

1430
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: something a little special to to not two people out

1431
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: there who's you know, the fans. Uh, It was dope, Man,

1432
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: we gotta stand in ovation And it was just another

1433
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: one of those things that you can hang up in

1434
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: the in the in the raptors and man, another moment

1435
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: beautiful following Ray Charles, that was such a big role.

1436
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: Were you picking your next projects carefully? Like? What what

1437
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: changed after Ray Charles? It was crazy. Man like Rachel

1438
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: is such a big film and the Oscar and everything

1439
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: like that. I had to let it. I had to

1440
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: let the Oscar go because because my people was like, oh,

1441
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: we only need to do Oscar things. That's no, no, no,

1442
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: no no no. I want to go back to the

1443
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 1: to the funny. I want to stay funny. Matter of fact,

1444
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even keep the Oscar with me because the

1445
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: Oscar had some kind of crazy power with it. Bro,

1446
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. You touched that ship and you

1447
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: start speaking in an English accent and ship you know

1448
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: when I stopped it. Action it's small. I start take

1449
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: the ship. So you see people to win them oscars

1450
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: and ship. That's a curse, bro, I said, I don't

1451
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: want that. I want to tell these jokes. I went

1452
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: on the comedy too. After that, I was at Madison

1453
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: Square Garden and at that time there was rumors that

1454
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: me and Oprah were in some type of relationship, which

1455
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: was funny. So I went on stage. I said, I'm

1456
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: dating everybody. Man, but but but but we were cool,

1457
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: and I did the joke. I said, they said I'm

1458
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: dating everybody, and so I said, so I'm laying in

1459
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: the bed with Oprah, I'll lean over the gale and said, hey, man,

1460
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: this is crazy, right they step to give me some

1461
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: juice right standing ovation And I said, if I think

1462
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: the joke was, if I wasn't making love to open,

1463
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: she'd have a brand new episode of her of her

1464
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: favorite things. And I did the whole thing. Jamie, we

1465
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: got something, Jamie ly Jeu two thousand twelve. Uh, Jango,

1466
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: How did that come about? Yo? Two thousand twelve. I

1467
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: had changed management and uh, literally like I heard about django?

1468
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: Man through I heard about Jango from uh Tyler Perry,

1469
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: m H. Saler. Perry was like, have you heard have

1470
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: you heard about this Django? This Django movie says yes

1471
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: with um with um Quentin Tarantino. I said, oh, that

1472
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: sh sound crazy. So he was. He was talking about

1473
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: it and then Will Smith and I was like, man, oh,

1474
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: will you gotta do that ship? I said, motherfucker. He

1475
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: was like, well, he didn't know if he wanted to

1476
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: play a slave. I said, yea, yeah, you're not a slave.

1477
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: He wrote though, but you know, so he passed and then, uh,

1478
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: I've seen the motherfucker interest at Interest album. I was

1479
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: at the show. I was doing the show. He came

1480
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: back and said, yeah, you heard this ship smoovie smoothe

1481
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:07,440
Speaker 1: Janka until intein know what's you George movie? Quentin Tarantino

1482
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: shopping up Jane Games. I was like, Yo, yo, good

1483
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: looking black motherfucking ass. Better do that ship man. You know,

1484
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: just what was that? What was that was that? To

1485
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: his smooth league the un school game? You know what

1486
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: do you think? I said, man, Yo, look at motherfucking ass.

1487
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: You gotta do that ship man. But for whatever reason,

1488
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: they all passed. And then I got a chance to

1489
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: come in and meet Quentin Tarantino. And the thing was

1490
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: is that you know, he never saw rain, you know,

1491
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: so the way the way he saw Ray was that

1492
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: he was looking for wardrobe lady and the wardrob lady

1493
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 1: didn't race, so he watched it. Had me come in,

1494
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: and I was already off script. I was already off

1495
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: book again, being prepared man, being that sophomore in football,

1496
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: being ready and uh. And I told him I know

1497
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: about the word nigger and all that to stand what

1498
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: that was back then, and it's necessary to tell the

1499
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: story so they don't bother. I understand that. And then

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01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, well, here's the thing though, Dog,

1501
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: I got my own horse. And he said, shot your

1502
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: own fucking horse. I said, I got my own horse.

1503
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: What the fuck? I said, yeah, it's outside, bro, and

1504
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 1: I said, not only that, but your stuck horse looked

1505
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: just like my horse. We just gotta paint the feet,

1506
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: just paint the paint the shoes white and we're good.

1507
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: And so he was like, I've never in my entire

1508
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: fucking life heard that somebody bringing the horse. I said,

1509
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: I got my horse right uside, Bro, let's know what

1510
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: we're doing. And boom. I got on the movie, bro,

1511
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: that you know, and then we got into the movie. Man,

1512
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was volatile, but it was

1513
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: a movie that for black and white folks. But it

1514
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: was the first time you saw a black character really

1515
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: be the hero. And was all Quentin Tarantino. He really

1516
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: wanted that to happen. When Django came out, man, you know,

1517
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: it was gang Busses and it was like, you know

1518
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: it uh, you know, it moved the culture in a

1519
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: different way. Yea. And people didn't understand the history of Django.

1520
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: There have been jangos made years back. Django was a

1521
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: character from Italy from the Spaghetti Westerns. That's how you

1522
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: got Clint Eastwood. So when I did that, that version broke.

1523
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: When I go to Italy or in any of these places,

1524
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: I can't even walk the street because that was you know,

1525
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: that was like a superhero. Yeah. So so it all

1526
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: worked out. That's beautiful. What was it like working with

1527
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: Leo to me, one of the most underrated actors of

1528
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: our generation, What was it like being able to team

1529
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: up with him on that? First of all, that that's

1530
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: the homy man. A lot of people don't know, like

1531
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: Leo is like a real, real dude, and you know,

1532
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to. I don't. I don't validate nobody

1533
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: just because they entered the culture. But like Leo stood

1534
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: in line for the big album back in the day,

1535
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: his best friend is you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1536
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: that that's why. That's why in Wolf of Wall Street

1537
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: when he popped, like, that's really him, that motherfucker, Like

1538
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: he really on the ship. The motherfucker he does his

1539
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: things if oh man all the way, and the cold

1540
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: part about it was, you know, he knows the whole

1541
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: all the scenario. Here we go, Yo, one day, I'm

1542
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: gonna get that motherfucker to do that ship. But he's

1543
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: a real dude. And when he came on to the

1544
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: set when we first did the readthrough, he had problems

1545
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: with the word niggado because he was saying and he said, oh, pala,

1546
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: I can't I can't say this. I just can't do it,

1547
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: and then sent Meel Jackson goes, hey, motherfucker, it's just

1548
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: another Tuesday. I said that ship, I said, I don't like.

1549
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: So he had to really wrap hisself into that character.

1550
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: And at one point I said, I put him to

1551
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: the sec that Leo, listen, I ain't your friend right now.

1552
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: We're back in the day, and who was back in

1553
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: the day. They would they would kill you hanging out

1554
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: with me talking to me face and face. So you

1555
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: gotta let that ship go. Man. The next day, that

1556
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: motherfucker came into the set and I said, what's up, Leo, Yo,

1557
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Then speak to me when they

1558
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: say action. Motherfucker went in his bag and that's one

1559
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: of the cars. That's one of the coldest performances. You

1560
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: take the performance out and and he talks about the performance.

1561
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: I won't I won't say some of the private stuff

1562
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: that he talked about. I won't say who it is,

1563
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: but there was this black guy when he grew up

1564
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: he used to hang out with and so he mimicked

1565
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: that character for for for that movie. Man so powerful,

1566
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: motherfucker man when he came on to the when him

1567
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: and Samuel finally came on to the set, Man the

1568
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: motherfucker's walking and slow motion with their baits and ship man,

1569
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: real Hollywood stars, all stars, imagine an all star Samuel Leo.

1570
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the motherfucker was going at it. So that's

1571
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: why that movie did what it did. Beautiful thing. Speak

1572
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: us a little bit about how important social justice and

1573
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: uh equality is to you in your life and and

1574
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: you know the the role you played and bringing more

1575
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: attention on the Traylon Martin situation. Well, I mean, look, man,

1576
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: the one thing about social media what it has done

1577
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: is pulled up the carpet. It lets us see something

1578
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: that we've been something that we've known about for a

1579
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: long time, the underground, the sincerity and the racism. Um.

1580
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: Now it's wide open. Even if you look at today's world,

1581
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: what's going on right now? What happened to I think

1582
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: the mayor of Georgia just posted something that was you know,

1583
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: these Uh, these terrible, terrible words that someone DM I live.

1584
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: I live out here and in Georgia, and h they's

1585
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: somebody somebody called us some names and she posted it

1586
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: to put them on blast, but to let you know

1587
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 1: that you know, that ain't gonna stop up from what

1588
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 1: she's trying to do. Yeah, and so so now, like

1589
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: I said, we've known about this for all our lives.

1590
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: Now we're dealing with the face and face. So doing

1591
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: movies like Just Mercy with Michael B. Jordan's, man, man,

1592
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: it's so important. It's so important because thanks man, thank you.

1593
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: And it's so important because you know, Michael B. Jordan's

1594
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: what he's doing for the for the culture. Man, Like

1595
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: when he did uh, you know, when did Fruitville Station,

1596
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, like he started laying that narrative down, and

1597
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: even when he did Black Panther, he still had a

1598
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: narrative for us that was, you know, highlighting us important

1599
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: for us. So Just Mercy is just the evolution of that,

1600
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, doing a movie to where we put the

1601
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: spotlight on a person who's wrongly accused of a rape

1602
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: and put on death row without a trial. And when

1603
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: we got into these roles, man, we knew we were

1604
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: doing something special and important and because it sits home

1605
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: with me. Man, you know my pops, he was a

1606
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: coach at Lincoln High School. Man, they put my pops

1607
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: in jail for twenty five dollars worth of the legal substance.

1608
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: They put him in jail for seven years. Come on, man,

1609
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: this dude was an educated for twenty five years in

1610
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: the hood. He would have kids at the school seven

1611
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 1: days a week just so they wouldn't get shot or

1612
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: or give him something to eat. So here they take

1613
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: this man who would bring the judge to the school,

1614
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: who would talk to the kids. You know that very

1615
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: judge presided over his case. Put him in jail with

1616
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: some of the kids that you feel what I'm saying,

1617
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: see is is it personal? And the thing is is

1618
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: that I don't go visit nobody in jail. Bro, I

1619
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: don't do that. I can't. I can't. And even when

1620
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: my pops, I said, I told him, I can't see

1621
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: you like them and I see you as a king,

1622
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see you like that. So I

1623
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: wrote in one letter, I said, when you get out,

1624
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save your life. And I fought. I fought

1625
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: the people, I fought in people for years, and you

1626
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: know they didn't understand that my pops Man was so

1627
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: important to me. He will. He made me round it

1628
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: like he showed me how to play tennis. I said,

1629
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: why A were learning? Why A were learning what white

1630
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: people do? He said, because I want you to be

1631
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: able to go everywhere. So imagine me playing tennis with

1632
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: my pops Man. You know in text I couldn't play

1633
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: at the country club, but he was getting it in.

1634
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: So when you get out, man, this is two thousand one.

1635
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: He get out, I said, listen, I'm gonna save your life.

1636
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: You come live with me. He right over there, right now.

1637
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: We've been here for almost twenty years. Twenty years now

1638
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,959
Speaker 1: together man, so and and and so. It's it's important

1639
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: that we keep that narrative, that we don't get exhausted.

1640
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: That's what's great about Brian Stevenson, the the the lawyer

1641
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: that Michael B. Jordan played. He doesn't get exhausted. He

1642
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,440
Speaker 1: keeps ringing the bell saying we have injustices and injustice

1643
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: we're always rearest ugly head. And the most inopportune time

1644
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: to look at it now with with we're dealing with

1645
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: COVID and who's going to be the one who are

1646
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: going to suffer the worst? We are because of the injustice,

1647
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: because of the way we're structured in in society. We

1648
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: don't have the health care. We don't even when it

1649
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: comes to the money that they're giving out right now,

1650
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: what a black business is gonna do when you see

1651
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: everybody else sort of prospering to get money, how do

1652
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: they get the money? So it's it's a whole lot

1653
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: of things that we touch on just by doing the movie,

1654
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: and we just have to keep it. We have to

1655
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: keep it going. Our art is our way to crack

1656
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: that code, is our way to open people's eyes. And

1657
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like we'll continue to do that.

1658
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Continuing to be great is the only way. Because we move,

1659
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: we set culture, we move culture, we shift culture. We

1660
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: are culture. So that's the only And I and I

1661
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Matt, Like sometimes I've heard you speak, man,

1662
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 1: I heard you speak about a situation. I wanted to

1663
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: go into it now, but I heard you speak about

1664
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: a situation and where you said, no, we don't have

1665
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: to live like that no more. We have our own voices.

1666
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: And I thought, what you and Stephen do, man, Like

1667
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't even think y'all know, but it means so

1668
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: much because you keep it real. But at the same time,

1669
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: there's a level of intelligence and a level of I'm

1670
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: black and I'm proud to it. That that that makes

1671
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: us feel good about it, you know what I mean?

1672
01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: A lot of special What act our filmmaker should we

1673
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: have on our show? Now, listen before you answer this question,

1674
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: whoever you say, whoever the answer is, and you have

1675
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: that connect which I'm sure you do. You got to

1676
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: connect them. You know everybody? Yeah, you know everybody? So

1677
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: who do you think should be a guest on our show?

1678
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: You should have? Leo Man? Yeah, that there was a

1679
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: Black Honors and he came out and gave me the award.

1680
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Man and I explained them to Leo. I said, Leo,

1681
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: it's not that we're looking for validation, but when people

1682
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: like yourself lend yourself, give your energy to us and said,

1683
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: he's sports, said you gotta have him because he's sports. Said,

1684
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you I'll work on him. Man, But he's

1685
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: a he's a he's a dope. Mother. That's the same

1686
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: way we feel about show. Bro. You don't know what

1687
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 1: you're doing for our show. So hell yeah, and I

1688
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: appreciate what we appreciate it. Man, Hell yeah, good call Jack,

1689
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: who's an actor actress you haven't worked with yet that

1690
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: you would like to m I want to work with

1691
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: I want to work to D. Man. Like like back

1692
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 1: to the party, I thought a party here, different kind

1693
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: of party where I had we featured. D D came

1694
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: to the party, he said, at the table, and he

1695
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: just uh, he just broke it down like all the

1696
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: actors and actress was in here and he was just

1697
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: giving us the keys you know to you know, uh

1698
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: to how to you know, make ship right? You know

1699
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: in the business, you know, you know, you know how

1700
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: you talk. You know, of course you gotta do anything,

1701
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, but boom, get that ship. But he was

1702
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: breaking it down so incredible for us. I said, man,

1703
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: I gotta work with him because I know when you

1704
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: work with him, you're gonna elevate. All right, Okay, alright, okay, okay, yeah.

1705
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: Because we had a we had a carry, we had

1706
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: a U Mariachi band for him, he said. I said,

1707
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you know you've got a Mariachi ban for you. You

1708
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: got a Maria alright, okay, got you. You got a

1709
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: Mariachi all right, Uh okay, Hey, what's your favorite uh

1710
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: what's your favorite TV series? Recent? Serious of all time? Samford?

1711
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: This Sun man, I'm watching that. I watched that every day.

1712
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I watched that ship, bro, like I was

1713
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: watching that ship that when the motherfucker's the TV got

1714
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: stolen and ship just just classic, man, that's my great

1715
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: you mentioned early on in the nineties, everyone was around.

1716
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: You were around everyone. Any cool, biggier pop stories, man, ship.

1717
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Tupacis just to be out. I remember one time he

1718
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: was at the comedy store. I was looking at Pop

1719
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,839
Speaker 1: but we didn't we didn't look at him like Tupac.

1720
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:51,759
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, and somebody pulled a gun out, nigger.

1721
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Somebody pulled a gun out the comedy store and shot

1722
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. He was like ah, and so just running

1723
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 1: down the street with Tupac, I mean back by this.

1724
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: It was crazy. And then you know, we would see

1725
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: him mountain and I remember that night, the night the

1726
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: night he passed away. I remember him like it was

1727
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: so crazy, man, like in the argument with these guys

1728
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: and he was like pop, man, man, it ain't worth,

1729
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: it ain't worth or whatever. And I was living in

1730
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Vegas at the time, and then that night, man, you know, unfortunately,

1731
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: the whole world stopped man, and I remember walking into

1732
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: the I remember walking into the MGM Graham and mc

1733
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: hammer walked up to him and said, man, he gone,

1734
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: this was early. He was like, stop man, cut the

1735
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: bush and we just see him. So unfortunately, um, you

1736
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: know that story, but just to be able to know too, funk.

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01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember how he was so nice to

1738
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: my mom. Like we were at the standing called the

1739
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Urban League, right, you know, some guys was tripping at him,

1740
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: and he was like, but he turned around and saw

1741
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: my mom was so gracious man, and he was like,

1742
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: how you doing, sweetheart? You know that's so mannerable and

1743
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: so cool. So I don't know, man, it's it's surreal

1744
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: that he's gone, uh and things like that, but those

1745
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: those just be the homie. Then he came and didn't

1746
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: a living color. He came and didn't living color, and

1747
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: when he came in, it was just like, you know,

1748
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: you didn't realize that these were gonna be moments that

1749
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: would last forever in time, to be very significant because

1750
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be here. But this happy, go lucky fun

1751
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: and just uh just so sad, but at the same

1752
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: time beautiful to be able to have those moments. What's

1753
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: your favorite sports moment? Uh, Lebron James coming back three one,

1754
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: that's big. That was big. That was that was big.

1755
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: That moment. If you can sit courtside at any game

1756
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: in NBA history, what game would it be? Oh, it

1757
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: would be uh damn, it would be eighty Uh When

1758
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: when was Magic Johnson? Huhm when he hit the hook?

1759
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Eighty seven? Yeah, eighty seven got him mighty beautiful. You

1760
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about beauty, poetry, emotion. Never, I'll never

1761
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: forget that. And what's crazy was I was in college

1762
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 1: and me in my roommate. You know, he was white

1763
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: from like normal from Oklahoma, and you know we weren't tripping,

1764
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, we weren't tripping on the on the on

1765
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: the teams because you know, I was a Maverick fan.

1766
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we just automatically started routing.

1767
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: I said, he said, come on, come on. I was like,

1768
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: come on, come on, Magic. Next thing, you know, we

1769
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: got on Lakeer, Jersey whatever. And just just to see

1770
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: that see that ship play out like that, Bro, that's

1771
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: just amazing. I was course out that history um, your

1772
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: favorite impersonation? Yeah, your favorite impersonation? Give us that character

1773
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: real quick. Who's your favorite person to celebrities? Favorite celebrity

1774
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: to to mimic? Uh? Ship, there's so many like I

1775
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: know you do damn to everybody. It's got to be

1776
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: my text right now. All right, So we had the

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01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: Beggest segment, right this is a part of the segment.

1778
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: This is part of the segment. Well, you know, we

1779
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: all we all fans of all the all our guests

1780
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 1: and some things we want to ask for. So this

1781
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: is my Matt. Are you involved today, Matt? No, I

1782
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 1: just want to be on set alright. Cool. So bound

1783
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Matt is helping me launch my my my acting career

1784
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be behind the camera, you know what

1785
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm say, doing a lot of stuff. So so not

1786
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: only do I want to be on set one of

1787
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: your movies and kind of learn from you and kind

1788
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: of see how you move around and how you do

1789
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: how you get into character, but I also if you

1790
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: have something going on, let your boy get a camera

1791
01:34:55,080 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: or something. Got it, I got it already down that Listen.

1792
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold this other down, Jack, Listen, this is

1793
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do Jack, I got a new TV

1794
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: show on Netflix. It's called Dad Stop Embarrassing, and it's

1795
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: about me and it's about me and my oldest daughter

1796
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: all the ship that we don't win through from the boys,

1797
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: to the to the to the to the drinks, to everything.

1798
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: So we just sold it. We shot just before we went. Now, Bro,

1799
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: you gotta come on all the way. I'm serious, Jack,

1800
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm serious that I'm coming on. Man. We gotta make

1801
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: this man that should be good fresh Matt. I'm gonna

1802
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: get some Bro. We got listen and we gotta put

1803
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: it in the script of where you have to say

1804
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: that team when you are you're nervous. I love the

1805
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: fresh fresh with good Hey man, Well Jamie, thank you

1806
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: for your time. Man, We really thank you. Thank you guys. Man,

1807
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: you guys keep you. Thank you man, Hey, that's you

1808
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: uh man, amazing episode thought, brother Jamie. You can cast

1809
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: us Showtime, basketball, YouTube or all platforms, streament podcast, all

1810
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: of him. You have a call from an innate at

1811
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 1: Williamson County Jail. You do it? Did you do it?

1812
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: In the state of Texas, there is no bigger community

1813
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: activity than high school football. It's Friday night life greg

1814
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: was one of the best football players. He's smart. The

1815
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 1: momentum he had is unlike most students ever experienced. I

1816
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: got a text message with krit Kelly's photo and I

1817
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: just said, do you know this kid? There was a

1818
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: crime minuted according to this four year old boy. It

1819
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: just turned nun like. This can't be two, This can't

1820
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: be two. And that's when a second victim came forward

1821
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: with the jury fund the defendant, Gregory Kelly, guilty of

1822
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: your films. This trial was a sham. There's been an outcry.

1823
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: Everyone's saying, you've got the wrong guy. That could have

1824
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: been me, that could have been any of us. They've

1825
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: built him up to be angelic, and then you fast

1826
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: forward to the search warrants and you get a different picture.

1827
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: Did you ever have you take a lot of teke test? Yeah,

1828
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: I've passed every question but one. We've been on this

1829
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: journey to try to figure out what the truth is,

1830
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's proven difficult at every turn. Initially I was

1831
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: pretty convinced of this incellence. Now I wouldn't be surprised

1832
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 1: either way. M h h. This life was all I

1833
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: ever wanted. I'm not leaving, not yet. I was hoping

1834
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: you can say that we gotta hit the streets, make

1835
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: some money people like us. Let's destroy people like him.

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01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: Buckle up, get Showtime free at showtime dot com m