1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh on okay o p show? Does this come from 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: our very own subreddit, our slash okayop show. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: It does, And if you want to send in your 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: stories and have us read it, go to r slash 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: okayop show on Reddit or you can call us at 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: four four zero five zero wait, six five sixty seven. 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: We love reading your stories, y'all love it. But let's 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: get into this one from okay family member Alyssa sixty 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: nine nice. Would I be the a whole for telling 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: my sister her boyfriend cheated on. 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Her with me? Oh? Yes, that's tough. I mean yes, 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: or say, well, you are the hope, but you should 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: tell us? And that makes you less of an ahlefic. 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like canceled and it's not canceled out, but you're Yeah, 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you're a little bit less. That's all the truth is, 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: less complain It also makes the sixty nine in the 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: much it's Crazier's we change on you come on and 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: let's say you're part of the okay fan. What are 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm getting at it. She's doing for real 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Okay fam can get it fairly too, beautiful. 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: I nineteen male have a sister, Lila twenty four female. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: I don't talk to my family much, mostly because we 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: aren't on good terms and I lived. 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: In another family significant other exactly. 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: So basically, I was at a gay club with some 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: of my friends and a guy approached me. He was 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: a bit older than me, probably in his late twenties 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: or early thirties. We started chatting and we ended up 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: in a hotel room at the end of the night, 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: and then we never saw each other again. That was 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: three months ago. 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Now, I was invited to a family dinner for my 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: grandma's birthday and I arrived early to be able to 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: catch up with a few cousins before the dinner. And 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: guess who came a few minutes later, My grandma. 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Guy from before, and they went to a hotel room 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to hook up. Correct like, not play lake scrabble or something, No, man, 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: they yeah, Lilla and the guy I hooked up with 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: he stared at me, and God, believe me when I 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: tell you that app was awkward. My sister introduced him 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to me as her boyfriend of eight months, mind you, 43 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: which meant the jerk cheated on her with me. 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: Okay, you know. 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: True? 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: Oh she didn't know because she just found out in 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: that moment. 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's very fair. 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: I tried to stay away from them throughout the dinner, 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: but eventually he pulled me aside. 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, now he's finally pulling something out. When my sister 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: went to the kitchen, he begged me not to tell 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Lila about what happened, and when I asked him why 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't, he said, you would be an a hole 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: for breaking her heart. Yeah, yeah, that's you, buddy. And 56 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: now I don't think Op's the a hole anymore. Yes, vindicated, 57 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: you're just suave as fun, that's right. Yeah, he's too 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: good looking, good looking. 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: And I told him that that was his problem and 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: that he shouldn't have cheated. He tried to explain that 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: because he lives in another state in a way from Lilla, 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: that he didn't have his needs met or some. 63 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Other bs like that sucks. You're just a bad relationship 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: partner difference if you cross state boundaries. I told him 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: that I'll still tell her, and he tried to threaten me, 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: but I just left at dinner early. Good. Now he's 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: texting me saying that I am the a hole for 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: sleeping with a takenmand Oh my god, what And It 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: gets even better. If I told my sister, I would 70 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: be just as much of a jerk as him. Untrue. 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm honestly really conflicted. 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 2: I want to tell my sister, but I don't want 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: her to think I purposely slept with her boyfriend. 74 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: So would I be the a hole? Edit for some clarification. 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm a guy. 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: People who missed the M in the nineteen m at 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: a gay club. Yes, man at a game club a 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: gay and yes it was me that changes everything. 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't get his means, not exactly. 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: He needed to switch it up. 81 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: Only a guy knows that of blues maybe, and I 82 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: don't know where he got my number from, but he 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: might just might have gotten it from his girlfriend a 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: massister who has my number, of course, because yeah, exactly, 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: because I'm brother. 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh and yes, I am one hundred percent gay. If 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: you couldn't tell by the fact that I was at 88 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: a gay club and hooked up with a man. 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's not gay. 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: This edit is making everything very crystal exactly right. Hope 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: this helps for the people who lack any critical thinking skills. 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Smiley face many exclamation I like how they had one 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent gay though it's real. Yeah, p gay, I 94 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: have a very sit down and have a talk. 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: By the way, to clarify this, Op actually isn't in 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: the okay fan, this was a cross post into this 97 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: is story that needed to be shared. 98 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you've guys got some crazy listeners. 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: We do, we do? 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, people, I was listening to one of your 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: collums today and yeah, they've got some wild stories, they. 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Got some juice. But what do you think would Ope 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: be the a hole in telling his sister not at all? 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: She deserves to know, and like I would hope that 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: she would understand that her brother wasn't trying to do 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: her dirty like that. Yeah, like unless there was ever 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: any history of of them having a bad relationship or 108 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: some kind of a I mean a similar situation, or 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: even just doing each other dirty and not in the 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: sexual way. But then I would think that she would 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: be totally understanding. 112 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is a hard thing to hear. I 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: could see not necessarily like wanting to be mad at him, 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: but kind of being like upset by the fact that 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: this happened. 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: Yea. 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: Even if I think I do think Op is like 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: somewhere blameless. 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: It could be nuclear too, if she doesn't even know 120 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: that he's by right exactly by so that I could 121 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: see that really spinning. And obviously this guy's not above 122 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: just blatant manipulation, so he would just be like, well, 123 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: he's gay, and he pursued me, you know, like I 124 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: could see it. 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: I can see it being But I think if if 126 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: she then found out later, it would be mower of 127 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: an asshole, because it would be like, okay, so you 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: didn't tell me, So then that means that there might 129 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: have been something weird going on that you actually were 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: pursuing him, because why the funk wouldn't you tell me 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: immediately when you found out and you let me date 132 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: this fucker for another. 133 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Major red flag and that relationship. That's what a good 134 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: brother would do. Absolutely, but you know it's not a 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: major red flag. The two of you, who have contributed 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: so greatly to our podcast today right to tell us 137 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: and people a little bit about your podcast. 138 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so go ahead. Danny started out so different 139 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: than this, you guys. 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, you guys kind of cover 141 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: all of ridit, which I love, and we're very we're 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: very specific. We only do am I the asshole. But 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: otherwise it's very similar. We read the situation and then 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: analyze it, and you know, that's it. 145 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: And Shannon's there. 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: And I'm there. 147 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: She just sits there. She doesn't talk. It's just me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 148 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: Danny started it in twenty nineteen and he had another 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: co host, Sarah. We'll start off with Anthony and then Sarah, 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: and then she has a podcast that she's sort of 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: like more the main one on it's called Not Another 152 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: True Crime Podcast. So she was getting busy and so 153 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: she had to leave this one, and then he was 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: looking for a replacement in the night sup And here 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: we are and here were all of twenty twenty two. 156 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: The dream team has assembled and now we know that 157 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, West Los Angeles. 158 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: We're in Santa Monica now and Chance plays in Venice. 159 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: This is actually one of the most Reddit podcast dentse 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly exactly. 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: We love it though, And then they're gonna come on ours, right. 162 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: That's right. Go check out their pod links in the 163 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: description and if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: We love you and see them are. This is an 165 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: episode from Deep Within the Archives time for okop Relash. 166 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: My fiance left me at the altar. Four years later, 167 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: he's come back to tell me why he did it. 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: That seems like twisting the knife a little bit, you know, like, 169 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: not only did I leave you at the altar, but 170 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: I left you at all of the altar because you're stupid. Woo. 171 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: It's about four years ago. 172 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: I female twenty nine, was supposed to be getting married 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: to my fiance at the time. 174 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: J Dude, screw this guy. Everyone whose name starts with 175 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a J utter trash facts, utter trash in the comments. 176 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: If your name starts with the J, we're coming for 177 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: you this right. Everything was going so perfect. I was 178 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: in my dress, I had my makeup on, and I 179 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: had taken the pictures with all of my bridesmaids. I 180 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: was pretty much ready to walk down the aisle when 181 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Jay's best man pulled me to the side and he 182 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: told me, you got some spinach in your teeth. Just 183 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: kidding us. Oh, he's he said, your fiance is gone 184 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: really split. How much I gone to dating. I can't 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: imagine standing someone up at like a restaurant of someone 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: I've dated for a couple of years alone, just like 187 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: creating a wedding. Crazy. Maybe it's like an arranged marriage, 188 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: or like at least bare minimum call the night before. Yeah, 189 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: so everyone isn't there also freaking respect, you know what 190 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, come on your wedding. The night before he 191 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: had gotten into a car and left and no one 192 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: was able to get a hold of him. Wow, yikes. Wow. 193 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I came home to our apartment and all of his 194 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: stuff was gone. Yo, premeditated. Wasn't like he just got 195 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: cold feet, Like, this is bitch town, bro. If you're 196 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: moving boxes, that is like a movie or something. Damn 197 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Yet he still didn't plan in his logistics to tell 198 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: her more than twenty four hours in advance. You don't 199 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: leave a note note on the on the pew or 200 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: like the like sorry not getting married, brbr BRB, except 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm never coming back. I ended up going on our 202 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: honeymoon with my best friends, which was the best decision ever. 203 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: I can honestly see that. Yeah, I know, but it's 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: a good friend. She must. I would be crying. I 205 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: would be in here so bad. I would be drinking 206 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: mimosas and just and just bawling by. But Thomas would 207 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: be good. And then I put myself in therapy to 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: heal the horrible trust issues I now have rightly so 209 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: like y and I haven't heard from him once until today. 210 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: I love it today. Yeah, I love a present day. 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: We are we are in the moment we are in 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the movie. This would be a great movie scene. It 213 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: would yeah where it's like like she's crying at the 214 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: altar and I decided I would never trust men again 215 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: and become a boss babe. And then and then she's 216 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: like like climbing the corp ladder. She becomes a high 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: powered lawyer. And then four years later and she's in 218 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: this like like high rise apartment of a very important 219 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: client af to defend Mark Zuckerberg. Like if there's a 220 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: trailer is like she's a high powered lawyer that doesn't 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: have time for no man. He's a deadbeat dad but 222 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: just is searching for love again. And then this is 223 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: how that and then here it is will you just 224 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: took us on a journey? I guess he got back 225 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: in contact with an old mutual friend who gave him 226 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: my number. Why are you trying to hurt this girl? True? 227 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Jay texted me and wants to meet up and apologize. Okay, 228 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: all right, He says he has a lot to explain 229 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: to me about what happened that day, and I am torn. 230 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: No shit, sirlock Man as a freaking dictionary length book 231 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: to write on how much of an ass hat he is? 232 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Actually freaking waffle? Oh what a waffle. Someone in the 233 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: comments called me a waffle. I just think it's a 234 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: brilliant insult man. Honestly. Okay, give us your best shot 235 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: right now, guys. You I have to be honest. You guys, 236 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: come up with some hilarious stuff. Just destroy me, go 237 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: for me, roast me completely right now. I want to 238 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: see what you guys got. I swore Jay was a 239 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: dead memory, but my curiosity and desire to get closure 240 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: with him is pestering me. Oh of course, Like I'm 241 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: not gonna you don't not take up that. Ye mean 242 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: you can't. It's like a car crash, you can't look. Yeah. 243 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, my current boyfriend supports me and whatever I decide, 244 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: and I feel, out of my respect to him and 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: how wonderful he's been, I should just ghost Jay. 246 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that makes it complicated if you have a boyfriend. 247 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: That it does. I'm very confused and I never expected 248 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to hear from Jay again. I have no idea what 249 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: to do. Please help. Yikes I mean, I would love 250 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: to hear what all of y'all would go to the situation. 251 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: I actually have two perspectives that I'm curious about. I'm 252 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: perspective what would you do from the perspective of Ope? 253 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: And then also has the boyfriend as Ope, like damn, 254 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I want some closure. Definitely as the boyfriend, like not 255 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: that I would be sweating, but like she almost married 256 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: this guy. There's gonna be there's gonna be feelings that 257 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: are rekindled. Oh, as oh he's current boyfriend. Yeah, as 258 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I want to know what he's feeling because it's like like, 259 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: like you want to be supportive. And I think as 260 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: the boyfriend, if I was in that situation, I'll be like, girl, 261 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: you do you because I would probably be secure in 262 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:36,479 Speaker 1: the relationship. But if I wasn't secure, I would be sweating, yeah, 263 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: because like that's you know, that much pain. I would 264 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: just be just because of the toxic relationships. That is, 265 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: people do be toxic. People be toxic all the time. 266 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: People go go back to the most toxic of relationships 267 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and of people. So hopefully, I mean, it seems like 268 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Ope has a good head on her shoulders, But what 269 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: do you do? Uh, you're in luck because there's an update. Oh. 270 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: So, first off, I want to thank everyone for the advice. 271 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: I honestly wrote this post just to vent my frustration 272 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: and confusion and possibly get some advice. I honestly forgot 273 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: about the post for a few days until my sister 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: and I were talking and she mentioned she saw a 275 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: post from a girl getting left at the altar and 276 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: her ex showing up again years later. 277 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Yo, she saw her post. I was like, oh, this 278 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: is like reminds me, It's like that is actually though, Yeah, 279 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I saw this person in her life was trash, like 280 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: it was garbage. 281 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: I told her the post was mine, and she's been 282 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: pushing me to do an update post. I figured that 283 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: it might be therapeutic to write everything down as final 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: closing of the Jay chapter. And this all went down 285 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: two weeks ago. 286 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so curious. What is this man's excuse it's about. 287 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: It's about to get juicy. H against most of the advice. 288 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I did meet up with Jay. As a lot of 289 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you said, a lot of people said to not do it. 290 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like it I would have. I would have 291 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: said I probably if I was commenting, other probably said yeah, 292 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: I can't not like I would do it, so I 293 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: cannot suggest. Yeah, but I get I get the rationale 294 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: for why not you Also, it was part of a 295 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: twelve step program of him making amends. Oh, that's why 296 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: he reached out. I don't know if that makes you 297 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: feel better or worse about it. 298 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing is like, it's not the closure can 299 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: oftentimes be for the aggressor. 300 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Or whatever, not the victim or whatever. The term is exactly. Yeah, 301 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: so you know, good for him forgetting me. Yeah, try, 302 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess anyone can try. Yeah. 303 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: We met up at a park and my boyfriend came 304 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: with me. Oh, that's an interesting thing. That's interesting. 305 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: My boyfriend sat off to the side while Jay and 306 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: I talked. Okay, I actually feel stupider after meeting with him. 307 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Why. There were a lot of things in our relationship 308 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: that would have had me out of the door if 309 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I paid more attention. 310 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: And if he wasn't such a great liar. Basically, for 311 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: the last year of our relationship, he was doing substances 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: and cheating on me. He had been struggling with his 313 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: sexuality for years, and it's not surprising it ended up 314 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: the way it is now knowing the truth if you're 315 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: picking up what I'm putting down. Oh, my man, loves man. 316 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Wow, that was I did not expect that twist at all. 317 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: M h wow. And he was struggling with with substance 318 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: abuse at the same time in the last year of 319 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: their relationship. That is so confusing, right, It completely changes 320 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: the dynamic of the whole. 321 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, not piece of shit. It's still yeah, piece of 322 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: piece of piece of shit. There's like that's that's you know. 323 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: He's not just like, oh it saw some smoking hub 324 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: babe with beefcakes on her rear end, and you know, yeah, yeah, 325 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean I have more sympathy. I guess I have 326 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: a little bit more sympathy because he was struggling with 327 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: his sexuality. But he still piece of ship. But he 328 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: doesn't excuse the actions. But like you know, you know, 329 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: if you if he's coming from maybe a conservative background 330 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: or like you know, he already just doesn't accept himself, 331 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: which it seems like he didn't like, yeah, I understand, 332 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: you understand more. Yeah, but also thought all that shit garbage. 333 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah you're a little garbage, but wow, closer for sure, Yeah, yeah, 334 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: I would. Actually, I don't know if I feel I 335 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: think I would feel better because it's not you basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 336 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: It's like like she was probably thinking, like what did 337 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: I do wrong? Yeah, because there could be like there's 338 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: ready stories you read it's like, oh, like you just 339 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: weren't you were just weren't doing it for me, blah 340 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: blah blah, and like, yeah, chose to leave them at 341 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: the altar with that, like, yeah, his family is incredibly 342 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: homophobic and are horrible people. Yeah, it makes sense. 343 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: I wanted nothing to do with them when we were together, 344 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: but he insisted on them being around just for big 345 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: life events like our wedding. The substances were something to 346 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: get him through the day and act like he was 347 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: in love when he actually was in love with someone 348 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: else whoa He had met his boyfriend at work and 349 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: I actually met him a few times when I would 350 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: drop Jay off for lunch, so he was having a 351 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: whole other yo affair. Yo, dude, it gets crazier, No, 352 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: it does it? Oh, I mean I'm saying that part 353 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: was crazier, But I met me. When our wedding approached, 354 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: his boyfriend said he needed to choose between me or. 355 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: Him, ultimatum. Dude, Ultimato. Yo, So it's crazy. It is. 356 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: So he packed his bags up and pretended everything was 357 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: great until his boyfriend picked him up and they moved 358 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: two towns over. So basically he put on a whole 359 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: facade only two towns over. That's like, bro moved to Brazil. Yeah, 360 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, yo, I moved to Costa Rica or something, 361 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: or like if she's visiting a friend or you're going 362 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: back and you just like they think, like I feel 363 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: like people like two towns over is is it's a town? Yeah, 364 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: it's close. Yeah, that's crazy. That is absolutely crazy. Wow. Wow, 365 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: now here's here's here's another thing. Here's another line. Okay, 366 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: it's kind of shocking. I asked him if he was 367 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: still with his boyfriend and he said no. Oh, so 368 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: the relationship he you know, I mean obviously he wasn't 369 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: attracted with her to begin with, but like the whole 370 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: thing that like caused all that pain and all thing. Yeah, 371 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: but I mean, like honestly, honestly, better for the really 372 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: like her the wedding to fall apart, then for her 373 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: to be like that twenty years down the line, then 374 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: find out and then find out. Yeah, yeah, he thought 375 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: he could quit the substances once he was free of 376 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: his family and lying, but he could not. His boyfriend 377 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: found out and left him. He kept going, getting high 378 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: and hooking up with random people. Well. 379 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: He apologized for not just being honest with me and 380 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: leading me on like he did, and he wished he 381 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: could go back in time and be truthful because I 382 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: would have been one of the most accepting people about 383 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: his sexuality. He said he missed me when he left 384 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 2: because even though he didn't love me or romantically, I 385 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: was his best friend. 386 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Ooh just ah, I mean right, oh, right, Fuck, dude, 387 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: that is so confused. It it's a lot. It was 388 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot to take him. I told him. 389 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: While I'm glad he's okay and he is doing better, 390 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: I would prefer for us not to have any contact 391 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: moving forward, but I do forgive him. He said he understands, 392 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: and he was only in town for a few more 393 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: days and he'd be gone for good soon. 394 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I'll admit. 395 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: When I got home, I cried, that's a perfectly reasonable 396 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: thing to do. My boyfriend held me in order to 397 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: be my favorite takeout. He's been really the best and 398 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: didn't pressure me to talk about anything until I was ready. 399 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: So if I got anything out of the worst day 400 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: of my life, it's led me to who I'm with. 401 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: Now boyfriend current boyfriend. Sounds like a total win. Dude, 402 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: congrats op on that crap. It's gonna be one of 403 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: my favorite stories there. Yeah, I mean just insane. And 404 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: I found the story and completely forgot what happened. So 405 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I was on for the journey. 406 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I know this man. Okay, so what do we learn? 407 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: What do we learn? Okay, so if you get left 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: at the altar, it's gonna be great. Yes, get left 409 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to the altar. Move past it. They were like they 410 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: were a piece of shit, right, so move past it. 411 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: Get yourself a nice good boyfriend. If you are that 412 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: new boyfriend and your current old friend gets hit up 413 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: by the guy that left or at the altar, I 414 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: think they did the total right thing. I like, now 415 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: thinking about it is like say, like, dude, babe, what 416 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: have you got to do? You know, get still. I 417 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: think he uh went with her, but was like completely 418 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: like completely out of earshot. I think that's fine. That's 419 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and I think maybe he went there just as support 420 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: for her and justin you know, like just in case, 421 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: like hey, we're going to be on this bench. Just 422 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: go like in the reading the car or something, we 423 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: give us some space, yeah, boyfriend W and then also forgiving, 424 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: like in W for forgiving, big W for forgiving. And 425 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: also to the to Jay you know, toll piece of shit, 426 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: but less so for uh going through the twelve steps 427 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: and apologizing and and giving some something terrible is now 428 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: doing work to become better. So you'll got you could 429 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: give him that. Yeah, that's all you know, That's that's 430 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: all we can ask, right, the past of the past. 431 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: You can only be better from there, That's right.