1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: a man, I'm. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: For I've heard so many players say, well, I want 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: to be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Ada State? 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Is that? 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: And no dah and Tye? Hey, how's it going? Everybody? 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: You are hearing my voice because ty has a super 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: secret day job that probably has him I don't know, 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: spying on rogue governments or wire tapping crown princes. I 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: can't say, but just know that those things aren't not accurate. 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: So when I have the controls, when I have the 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: steering wheel, when the rudders listen to me, I just 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: bring on the largest Oregon duck I could possibly find. 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: And he also happens to be really fun and smart 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: and insightful and does all sorts of things regarding football, 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: both college and pro. Jeff Schwartz, my friend, how are you? 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: I am glad to be here. So ty has a 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: secret job that that no one even knows what it is. 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: He has a secret day job. He's had it for 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: a long time. He is very sensitive about it. People 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: have asked us and him for years what it is, 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: and out of respect for the job. Just listen to 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: that closely. He refuses to tell people what it is 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Someday if he ever moves on. I know he's very 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: happy at his job. He might divulge it. But for 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: somebody like you who has seven jobs, for somebody like 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: me who does three or four different things, it's funny 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: that he is in that position. But you know what, 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is secretly one of the most entertaining, fun 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: smart people. He actually has a podcast called Jeff Schwartz 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Is Smarter than You with our friends Gabe and Matt correct. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Uh, yes it is. It's still happening. I think. 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: It's all over the place, but yeah. 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: There an episode Tuesday. I don't know what the future holds, 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: but it's available on iTunes. 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: It's a fantastic lesson, and we're going to get into 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: why Jeff is fasting an incredible I just have texts 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: with friends who also know Jeff and we just we 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: all bask in the wonder that is Jeff Schwartz. 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: But we're here interested. 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: First off, Yeah, the Matt Ford conversation. Matt Ford is 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: deeply in love with you. We're talking about the NFL 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Draft first and foremost and then we're going to talk 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: just about life in quarantine as a dad, as a husband, so, 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: you know, just really get to know each other in 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: that way. Let's the draft was now a week ago. 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: I think it played out in a somewhat expected way. 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge NFL fan. You spanned the two worlds. 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: So what I want to ask you first and foremost, 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: was there anything about this year's draft or this year's 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: draft coupled with previous drafts that reflects something I guess 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: specific about where college football is, either as a whole 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: or with certain systems or schools, whatever you want. 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that we're seeing now how important 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: speed is, especially in the NFL, but on college football 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: where we have a ton of wide receivers. I mean, 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: next year's class for wide receivers might be better. And this 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: was like an historic here for wide receivers, right, like 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: the speed in my opinion, speed cornerback trying to protect 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, trying to defend those guys. And 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: then also speed at you know, at the at the 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: wide receiver position is in the name of the game. 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: It's how fast can you be? 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: And then I think the dominant you know, the the 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: continued domination of the draft from the SEC. I mean, 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: you know, we're packed twelve guys, we're just behind, we're 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: behind in in the big bodies, in the offensive defensive lines. 71 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: I mean they're lapping us. The SEC is in those 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: in the in you know, in those positions. And then lastly, 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: this this might not be something to look forward, you know, 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: to look at moving forward, but this was a supremely deep, 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: deep year. Like we had a year where you know, 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: the pick, you know, pick fifty was Jalen Johnson. I 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: mean he he's an immediate immediate starter for the Bears. Like, 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: he's an immediate upgrade in that position. And it's just 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: with a deep draft. I'm not sure that's a college 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: football thing for next year, but I definitely think the 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: wide receivers, like the speed guys are just playing wide receiver. 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: Now they're not playing cornerback, they're not playing running back, 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: especially a playing wide receiver. 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: And then the SEC just continues to dominate. This why 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: they win the title. 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: All the time, it is because they're just they're just 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: more talented, and we're getting a point in college football, 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: we're not getting there. We're there when you really coun't 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: can't like out coach someone to a championship. You have 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: to have dudes to win, and there's no way about 91 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: it now, right, Like you can't like have a great 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: season where you kind of luck into it. You better 93 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: have years and years, three, four or five years of 94 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: top ten recruiting classes to even be competitive on the 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: national level. 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: So you mentioned the SEC, and really I think it 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: goes for a lot of the teams atop the sport, 98 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: which happens to be a lot of SEC teams. If 99 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 2: you look at that first round, even the first couple rounds, 100 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: the picks overwhelmingly come from the known powers of college football, 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: and probably yeah understand So whereas if you look at 102 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: successful NFL players, sure there are certainly SEC alums at 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: the top of the sport, but it's you get a 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: pretty wide swath. Travis Kelce went to Cincinnati, Cream Hunt 105 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: went to Toledo. I guess maybe draft smaller school Ohio players, 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: but no, you see, you know, to Forest Buckner just 107 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: got the second highest defensive contract of all time, right 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: and he goes to Oregon, a power, but not in 109 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: the SEC. Do you think it's a trust thing that 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: scouts and GMS have with the SEC. Do you think 111 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: it's a visibility thing. Do you think it's a distrust 112 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: of perceived competition level? Is it something else or what 113 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: makes it so much easier even though eventually talent is 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: pretty spread out. 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: So that's a good question. I think that because the 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: SEC is just so much I just more advanced in general, 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: like the way they play, the players they have, I 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: think defensively, they're much more advance than other conferences. When 119 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: you watch them one succeeding in the SEC, you think 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: to yourself, Okay, look, he's succeeding in a conference that 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: has great talent around him. Sure, and therefore they should 122 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: be good pros. And I think that that is something 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: that is definitely you know, we look at and say, yeah, 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: like that's why I think a lot of these players 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: end up getting drafted so I and again it's it's 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: not a slight against them. I mean they should be 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: drafted that high because they performed, you know, at the SEC. 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: But you look at I'm trying to find the tweet now, 129 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: but you look at like Alabama for example, and they 130 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: are so good and just in general, like there's just 131 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: an incredible and incredible places it's turn out pros and 132 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: pros and pros that I think it's some positions like 133 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: quarterback and ends up being quote nquote like easy, right, 134 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: And I think we get to the NFL it's just 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: it's not as easy. I think from like the twenty 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: eighteen Bama team, Like there's like eleven first round draft 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: picks on offense. It's just like it's just like outrageous, 138 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: like it shouldn't be like got easy in college, and 139 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: so I think that's why you get to, you know, 140 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: an issue in the NFL. Like it's just not as easy. 141 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: It's not as easy as it wasn't Alabama not easy? 142 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: It was lsu Joe Burrow is going to be throwing 143 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: to less talented wide receivers Natty that he did other 144 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: than Ajen. 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: Aj Green is still there, right, Is that a thing? 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: Aj Green I think is still their tea is going 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: to be good. But right, you know, but basically I 149 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: mean in theory, I mean, okay, for example, two was 150 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: one thousand percent thrown to worst talents and worst talent 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: off it's a line. 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Then he has Alabama. 153 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: So do you think And I'm actually curious about this 154 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: because you bring up Alabama Nick Saban if and I'm 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: sure you watch the Bill Belichick Nick Saban HBO thing, 156 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: and in that Nick Saban talks about scouts reaching out, 157 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: GM's reaching out or really not reaching out. And he 158 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: had a sort of a comment that said, you know, 159 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: nobody called me about this guy, would have told you 160 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: not to take him in the first round. How many 161 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: coaches are allegedly that honest? Because the more first round 162 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: picks the school produces, the better for recruiting, the better 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: for that coach's reputation. Is there is there an honesty 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: level there? 165 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 166 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: I think I think there actually has to be, because 167 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: if you tell a pro coach or scout that an 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: ex player is much better than he is, or you know, 169 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: his attitude issues aren't a problem, or he's a great 170 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: leader when he's not and he gets the NFL and 171 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: he's not those things, then your butt's kind of on 172 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: the line there. Like you you know, how much can 173 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: someone trust your opinion if you can't give it to 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: him straight? And so why I agree that you have 175 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: to balance you know, wanting your guy to go in 176 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: the first round, but you also just kind of can't 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: make things up to NFL personnel because then you kind 178 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: of look foolish and then they're not going to ask. 179 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I don't think Nick Saban's done this, 180 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: but I do think coaches are fairly honest when it 181 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: comes to behind the scenes private conversations with other coaches. 182 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: And if you walk in the Alabama facility, I think 183 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: I'm making this up. I think this is a thing 184 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 2: they will splash out in front for recruits. How many 185 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: dollars Alabama players have made being drafted high signing those 186 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: second contracts. So it's not like he's shying away from 187 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: that element. But also they are going to be honest 188 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: because at a certain point, everybody can call bs once 189 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: you see it on the field exactly. 190 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: And that's why it was actually surprised that knowing that 191 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: people had not called Nick Staban for a lot of 192 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: the draft picks. I thought that was always something that 193 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: people did. And yeah, it's just it's I do think 194 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: there's something to like, you know, the Alabama players just 195 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: seemed beat up with the NFL. It's just it's rough 196 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: in the SEC. It's rough in at Alabama. It is, uh, 197 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: puts some tough football there. 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: Well that work against I mean we see it with 199 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: running backs. We're like, oh my god, he has eight 200 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: hundred carries in his career. And we've seen running backs 201 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: that do get drafted somewhat high. I think Josh Jacobs, 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, doesn't have a lot of carries at Alabama, 203 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: but he showed his talent. Do we see that in 204 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: other positions where snap counts are saying, God, this guy 205 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: played a lot of center. A four year starter is 206 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: a lot of tread on his tires. Is that working 207 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: against other positions the way it does maybe against running backs? 208 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: No? 209 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: Should it? 210 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: No? 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: I think like for an offensive line, you know, experience 212 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: is important, and if you've played that long and you 213 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: haven't gone hurt, that's obviously a plus. I think the 214 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: running back position is so injury prone that it does 215 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 3: play a role. But now, I mean this year is Tua, 216 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean Tua, the injuries that Tua had, it's a 217 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: lot guys. I know, Dolphins drafted him and they did 218 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: a great job. I think smoke screening a lot of people. 219 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: I talked to someone with the Dolphins and I still 220 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: think they liked Herbert, but I obviously the one with Tua. 221 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that, guys, there's a lot of injuries. 222 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: It's a lot of injuries for high draft picked or 223 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: at that position, which is typically a position you don't 224 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: get injured very often. I mean Joe Burrow, but that 225 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: I mean maybe you know, a small injury here and there. 226 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: Herbert just had a collarbone one year. You know, there's 227 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: no other, no other. You know, Jordan Love wasn't hurt. 228 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: You know, Easton obviously answered a butnch around wasn't hurt. 229 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Traum wasn't hurt. And two I had it to get 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: a hip, two ankles, a finger or wrist, whatever other 231 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: entries he had. It's a lot, guys, and I know 232 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: it's scared off teams. 233 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: I want to talk about justin Herbert for a second, 234 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: because he means a lot to both you and me. 235 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: I like to think of myself as somebody who likes 236 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: to and hopefully correctly use the phrase at a certain point. 237 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Whereas we hear about quarterbacks with three different coordinators, four 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: different coordinators, or a new system every year, or you know, 239 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: there are excuses. There are built in excuses that sometimes 240 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: resonate and sometimes seem a little bit hollow. You know, 241 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: we know these quarterbacks, you know, Christian Hackenberg Josh Rosen. 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: They have all these coordinators, and the same is true 243 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert. And there was criticism from me, from 244 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: you from this is all public published from NFL scouts, 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: both with their names and without their names, that the 246 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: system at Oregon held him back. Do you think I 247 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: guess what is jitimate and not a player's fault and 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: what is sort of bs because we see when guys 249 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: actually get to the league that sometimes those concerns were warranted. 250 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think with Herbert the coordinator issue 251 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: is not as pronounced as as other times in the 252 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: quarterbacks story, because his issue was never not knowing what 253 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: to do right. 254 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: It was just that he didn't put a tricker. 255 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: But people look at his his sophomore season and they say, wow, 256 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: like if you look at like pro football focused, they say, 257 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: sophomore season was as highest graded season, right right, And 258 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: but yeah, he played with Willie Taggard, who is known 259 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: to have a high tempo, high flying, explosive offense, like 260 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: that's what he's always now Forrest State aside obviously, but 261 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: when he came to Oregon, South Florida for like two 262 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: years in a row at the most explosive offense in 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: the country, the most explosive plays in the past game. 264 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 3: So you know, when you take that into context, you 265 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: look at the offense he. 266 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Plays and played in. I guess now at Oregon almost 267 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: he's at the opposite right. 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: It was run the football first or take two or 269 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: three shots a game, So a ton of screen passes 270 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: and the offense did not fit what Justin is really 271 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: good at now. The anticipation issues are real. There's times 272 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: when he sees the guy open, he just does not 273 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: throw the ball. Now whether or not, and whether or not, 274 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: that's because he just is afraid of making mistake, which 275 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: I think is very obvious at times. Or guys just 276 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: take a while to get open. There are plenty of 277 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: times Justin is just stay in the pocket tall, waiting 278 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: for someone to get open. Because the wide receivers have 279 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: not been drafted. 280 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: They're not good. 281 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: The last two years he's not had a guy drafted. 282 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: He said about Burrow had had five guys. 283 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: Drafted and the award winning receiver last year. 284 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, wo is gonna have everyone receiver. He every WDE 285 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: receiver tied in a running back he played with, every 286 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: left tackle, every right tackle is going to be drafted 287 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 3: into the NFL, Herbert did not have that luxury. The 288 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: skill position players, offensive line obviously very good, So all 289 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: of it plays a role in how we evaluate Herbert. 290 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: The question becomes, obviously, are the issues he has with 291 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: anticipation are they allowed out or they allowed Are they 292 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: able to be fixed in the NFL? And that's obviously 293 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: some of the chargers have to figure out the other 294 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: stuff that I heard about the way. 295 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: Can it be? Do you see quarterbacks get anticipation issues 296 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: fixed once they get there? 297 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, I don't. 298 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I but I think with 299 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: his situation specifically he's had I actually want to like 300 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl was fine, and I it was a 301 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: small sample size, but the Senate Bowl was a time 302 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: when he finally played with anyone who was any good 303 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: and played a lot better. I think he can he 304 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: can do it. He's gonna be outlier probably if he's 305 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: able to do that. And I'm higher on Herbert than 306 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: the most. Are a couple of things that I just 307 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: did not understand the criticisms about Herbert. One is the 308 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: leadership stuff. I'm you know, you talk to some people. 309 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I do. 310 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was never a problem with organ I just 311 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: I tried to find someone to tell me it was. 312 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't. The other one I don't understand is the 313 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: it factor. 314 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: So what's interesting about how we evaluate quarterbacks is, you know, 315 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: a quarterback runs for a touchdown, Oh my god, greatest 316 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: thing ever? 317 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: What a winner? 318 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: Right quarterback be not allowed to run for ten weeks 319 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: of the season, finally allowed to run, has three touchdowns 320 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: to the Rose Bowl? Doesn't have the in factor? 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: What what? 322 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 323 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: What do you mean he he won the Rose Bowl 324 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: for the team. I want to watch the Rose Bowl 325 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: the other day. I want to watch Bonets Soul for 326 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: a little bit. The left tackle Organ obviously and uh Wisconsin, 327 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: I would say played better than Organ at times like 328 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: Order should not have won that game. It was just 329 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: we want because Justin Herbert played really well as a runner. 330 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: Actually like that type of stuff. It's like, what that's 331 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: not true. We're looking like at the same thing. How 332 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: do you don't have in factor? So I think some 333 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: of it legitimate. I think some of it was just 334 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: people making stuff up to knock him down. 335 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: Outside of quarterback, where does football intelligence and instincts matter most? 336 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: Position wise? 337 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean offensive line is a huge one. Obviously. 338 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: I mean you have to be able to play fast 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: and and play with the knowledge of what's happening around you. 340 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: But I also think you know on defense, you know, 341 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: safety is a very sexual position. You have to be 342 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: able to to kind of understand what's happening in the 343 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: past game. You know what your pass rush is going 344 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: to be, how much time you have, Uh, you know 345 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: where where, what route concepts that that you're seeing in 346 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: front of you. The last position I want to say 347 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: that I think doesn't get enough credit, and in college 348 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: football it's never gonna get credit because it's not really 349 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: as valuable as the NFL. 350 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: But tight end is an is extremely Uh what's the 351 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: right word to use. 352 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: Cerebral Yeah, cerebral position because think about this, If you're 353 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: the tight end, you have to know the entire passing 354 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: game tree right, because you are a route runner. You 355 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: also have to know all the formations because you're either 356 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: going to be in the right or left, You're going 357 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: to motion across, you're gonna shift across. I think even 358 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: know all the run game as well, because you're part 359 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: of the run game. So you have to know all 360 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: these three parts of the offense. A wide receiver just 361 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: has to know where they line up and what and 362 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: what route they run. Right offensive linemen, I have to 363 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: know the run game and sometimes I have to know formations. 364 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: Running back doesn't have to do the route the rout 365 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: tree that a tight end does. So tight end is 366 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: the position those who play really well, they gotta do 367 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: a lot of different things. And I think that that 368 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: position is not as important in college but really underrated 369 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: as far as the intelligence that is needed to play 370 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: that position at a high level. 371 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is, even though Gronk and Travis 372 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Kelcey come across as goofballs secretly intellectual on the field. 373 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Gronk has not yet. Gronks is is uh. I think 374 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: very bright. 375 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: I think his party nature and his free spirit really 376 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: to tear from. 377 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Actually, I think, actually, how how bright he really is? 378 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: Two things can be true at once. Always remember he 379 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: can enjoy partying and knowing an offense and executing it well. 380 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: There is there a position that is well. I guess 381 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: what is the most unprepared position. No matter how good 382 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: you are in college, no matter how well you know 383 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: the playbook, no matter how good your instincts are, what 384 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: is just the steepest position to climb with the challenges 385 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: of the NFL. 386 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Well, my quarterback is the easy one, I think. 387 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess outside of quarterback as well, where just 388 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: the speed, the intellect. 389 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably say offensive line. I mean, I 390 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: think you know, And I'll use Ponet Still as an example. 391 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm watching him. He's still twenty twenty one is probably 392 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: the top tackle with Alan Trophy winner. I watched him 393 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: play Wisconsin every day. 394 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: He had. 395 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: Three two for sure, so three he had three times 396 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: that he had just an actual like third and eight 397 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: drop back past set where he had a straight rush, right, 398 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: he was one on one. It was Zach Bond. The 399 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: kid got drafted by the Saints. Uh whoever? 400 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: Say? Yeah? 401 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: Heah beat on the first one beats kind of the 402 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: wrong word. Second one he was final number forty one 403 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: was the other one. 404 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: He like. That was three reps. Three reps. 405 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: Now he had other pass protection, he had flagship pass 406 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: he had somewhere where guys moved and shifted on him 407 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: and whatnot. But three actual reps of a one on 408 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: one pass rush. He'll have twenty five to thirty five 409 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: of those in an NFL game. 410 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 411 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is the big difference, in my opinion, 412 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: when you see college offensive line and go in the NFL, 413 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: you just have to you just you pass protected more 414 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: and a lot of these offenses in college aren't built 415 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: quite like you've seen in the NFL. And that's a 416 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: tough transition to make. I think with Orgers new offense, 417 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: they're going to end up having more more of those 418 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: drop back pass attempts. But he didn't get the opportunity 419 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: to really work on what he's going to do in 420 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: the NFL. That's why they transition at times from the 421 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 3: NFL from college the NFL so hard that at the 422 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: offensive line. 423 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: Position and Hi, it's not a guy from ASU or Cal, 424 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: it's Khalil Mack. 425 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: Yes, And that's one thing that that is if people 426 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: ask me the biggest difference between college the NFL, and 427 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: that's the exact answer I give him. I'm like, you know, 428 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: when I was in college, you know, I played I 429 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: played USC. You know USC's defensive end, which is you know, 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: Lauras Jackson, and then that was it. 431 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: That was it. 432 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: That was it. I mean there was one got UCLA, 433 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: Bruce Davis or something that's a nice drafted at some point. 434 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: Oh one of my my favorite name of all time, 435 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Ropati pu Watu in Washington State. But he's a defensive tackle. 436 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I didn't really face him very much in college as 437 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: far as you know, pass rush wise. Uh. And then 438 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 3: you know, like Nick Reid a Orgon, I mean like 439 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: but but. 440 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: But not NFL. Yeah, not an NFL player. 441 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: That's it. 442 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: So in NFL you obviously faced nfls every week, and 443 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 3: that's just a huge difference. I mean, you know, Pine 444 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: Sewel in his time in Oregon, maybe, I mean, the 445 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: best pass rusher he's probably gonna play is on his 446 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: own team. Otherwise he's not going to get a lot 447 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: of guys in the conference, especially that are even remotely 448 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: close to pros. 449 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: How many years did you play? 450 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Eight? 451 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: You played eight seasons. Your brother is in what number season? 452 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: About sorr? 453 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: He just finished He just finished eight. He just finished eight. Okay, 454 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: So your brother's taken in the second round. Mitchell Schwartz, 455 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: all pro right tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs, you're 456 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: taking in the seventh round. Yes, I assume if coaches 457 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: had a crystal ball and they said this guy will 458 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: be an eight year player, he will be an eight 459 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: year NFL offensive lineman, you would probably be taken higher 460 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: than the seventh round. Correct, And Mitch, if everybody knew 461 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: he were all pro caliber, would have been taken higher 462 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: than the second round. What do you think? And let's 463 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: get extremely personal. What do you think it's overlooked about you, 464 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: about Mitch, about any offensive lineman who outplays his draft 465 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: draft rank. 466 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh, it's athletic traits, Okay, people are obsessed with those. 467 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: I have an example for this year, and I'll I 468 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: know I'm sicking to organ a bunch because that's all 469 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: the time. But Calvin throckmore in the organ right tackle. 470 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Every time I watch him play gets what he does. 471 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: He blocks the guy in front of him, like that's 472 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: his job, and he doesn't extremely right, He didn't allow 473 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 3: a sack. 474 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: In his college career, right, He got being a couple 475 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: of times. 476 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: But like, but you know he runs a four four 477 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: five to four, and you know does have the greatest shuttle. 478 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: And we look at athletic traits we value them way 479 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: too much. So just does the guy block someone? It's 480 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: that simple, and I think that's the way, you know, 481 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: even sticking out West Bradley and I the past rusher 482 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: out of Utah, you know. 483 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: Fifth round draft pick. He was Utah is all time. 484 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: Sack leader, like he's he should have been a third 485 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: round draft pick because a low second round draft pick, 486 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? But you know, it doesn't run 487 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: as fast, and it's like, it's ridiculous. We obsess over 488 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: athletic traits. And that's why I think I was drafted 489 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: lower than I probably should have been. I don't think 490 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: I was at all anything higher than a maybe fourth 491 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: round draft pick. My brother was actually drafted higher than 492 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: I think we thought he would have thought what kind 493 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: of middle to end the second round? 494 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Not started the second round? Right? 495 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: And you know he was a little more athletic than mean. 496 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: Actually his combine numbers are a little worse if you 497 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: kind of grate them all together. I have one thing 498 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: over my brother. He has the Super Bowl in the 499 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: four all pros, So but I think that's what it is. 500 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: It's his athletic traits. 501 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is you are blaming mister and 502 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: missus Schwartz. You were blaming your parents for costing you 503 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: and possibly Mitch countless millions. 504 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: But if you go look at Mitch's contract situation, I'm 505 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: not sure that's not much to be upset about. 506 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: That's true. 507 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: He did earn a very nice second contract from Kansas City. Okay, 508 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with grading here because that's about all 509 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: I care about with the draft, just because I don't 510 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: have an NFL team, I don't watch a lot of 511 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: the NFL. Sundays are for a lot of college football 512 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: stuff for me after week whatever, how would you grade 513 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: yourself as a both a husband and father, pros constraints, 514 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: weaknesses during this extended quarantine. Give me a scouting report 515 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: as you for you as a household presence. 516 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so. 517 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: This is going to sound a little bit. I don't 518 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: even care. I don't make no I don't make any 519 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: bones about having money. 520 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: So I. 521 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: When this started, when this when the COVID nineteen coronavirus 522 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of became a thing in early February, I kind 523 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: of felt the direction we were going. And I know my 524 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: strength and weaknesses as a husband and as a dad. 525 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm hearing anticipation right off the bat. 526 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: Is that I I'm not teaching my kids anything like 527 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm both lessons. I'm not like, I'm not like teaching 528 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: them school like that's not my thing. I'm not good 529 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: at the patients for it ain't gonna happen. 530 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: How old are your kids though, we're not talking about 531 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: high schoolers. 532 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: So they're five and three. Yeah, And I also like 533 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 3: work during the day. My wife is a nurse, not 534 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: at the hospital, but she works during the day. So 535 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: I told our friend who's who's an elementary school teacher, said, look, 536 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: with school's clothes, we're hiring you. So my contribution to 537 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: this quarantine time is that I hired Sandy to teach 538 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: my kids. 539 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: During the day. 540 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so things you know now, it's like I said, 541 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: very worth, very worth it. 542 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's great. I mean that means you 543 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: are valuing your children's educations. You're not spending your money 544 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: on something frivolous. 545 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 3: And Alex is doing a great job. By the way 546 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 3: Alex has been has been He's been learning a lot. 547 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: My little three year old. It's like not much for 548 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: a dish, just like Prances ran on the house all 549 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: day and just okay and watches the people doing the 550 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: pool in the backyard. I would give myself high grade 551 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: for this too. Her friend has been living with us 552 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: such March eighth. 553 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: This is the teacher's friend. 554 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: No, no, this is no. 555 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: Sandy goes back and forth between her house every day. 556 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: My wife's best friend visit from California March eighth. 557 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: She has not left Whoa and I. 558 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: Have been totally cool with it, like in the past, 559 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: you know, she stays like longer two weeks. I'm like, 560 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: I kind of want like some me and you time, babe, 561 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: Like it's about time to like your friend to leave. 562 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: But it's actually been very helpful because it just gives 563 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: her someone else to hang out with that's not me. 564 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm hearing patience, I'm hearing poise. 565 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: So I would say that I have been very I've 566 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: been great in the quarantine. Also, I let her like 567 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: indulge herself with fine activity. So example, this weekend, we're 568 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: doing a prom in our house. 569 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Okay, great. 570 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: We're dressing up and I have a tux wearing my tucks. 571 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: My wife is wearing an eleven year old dress that 572 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it fits her quite well, okay, and 573 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: we're gonna play corny music and we have balloons that 574 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: she blew up already, and we're gonna have a prominent 575 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: living room probably at nine pm Eastern on Saturday, night. 576 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a zoom link if you people want 577 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: to join us. Just indulging her in like stupid, like 578 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: we got a we had a fiesta one weekend. We 579 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: bought a pinata off Amazon and like made tacos and. 580 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: Hit a pinata, Like just indulging her in her little 581 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: need to have fun moments. 582 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: What I'm hearing is NonStop motor from from this creativity. 583 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: What I'm hearing for her, I'm just like I just say, yes, babe. 584 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: She is NonStop like she and she likes to clean, 585 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 3: which is great for me. So like she just getting 586 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: this like cleaning thing where like she just cleaned for 587 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: like three hours straight. 588 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm hearing great teammate. I'm hearing great locker room presence. 589 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: You're a culture guy all that. 590 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, great culture. I've always been a great a great 591 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: culture guy. That's been my That's how I got sound 592 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: made in the NFL. Great culture guy. 593 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: What needs improvement? What needs If you could grade yourself 594 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: down for anything, if you said, okay, to be the 595 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: best Jeff that I could be in this household, I 596 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: need to improve X, Y and Z. 597 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: For sure. It's the same. It's the same two things 598 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: that have haunted me this. 599 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: Marriage, clean the kitchen and folding of laundry. 600 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, a bit a big deal. 601 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: Can I tell you? Do you own air pods? 602 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: Yes? 603 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not. They don't pay us, so this is 604 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: just completely unsolicited advertising from me. Chores are made so 605 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: much better listening to podcasts on air pods because you 606 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: have you know, it's tough when a wire gets in 607 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: the way if you're loading a dishwasher or something like that. 608 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Find a podcast you really like. Maybe it's the Solid Verbal, 609 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's Sports Wars. Find a podcast 610 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: you love and only let yourself listen to it while 611 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: you do the dishes, while you clean the kitchen, while 612 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: you fold laundry. 613 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: That's all my wife does. She has books on tape. Yeah, 614 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: she was just to them and I caught her. I 615 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: caught her smiling the other day during during the book 616 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: on tape. She's just like he was sitting there and 617 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, what happened? And she said, the husband just 618 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: got shot. 619 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: And I was. 620 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: Like, oh, no, no, why are you smiling at this? 621 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: How are you sleeping? 622 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, geez. 623 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: So uh we're getting by man, We're we're fortunate. Okay, 624 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: we've had a couple a couple like weekend bonfires. We 625 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: invite our neighbors over. We just sit six feet apart 626 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: in the driveway with just have like a little bonfire action. 627 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we've made it. We've made it work as 628 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: best as possible. Uh. 629 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: Look, I I feel like we're getting. 630 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Sports back soon enough. 631 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: I think I feel I feel pretty confident in college football. 632 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: Maybe everywhere but California, u R and NFL is happening. 633 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: So we'll have something to talk about in. 634 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: A couple of months. 635 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: Sofully, what has been the best thing you've cooked, especially 636 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: as it relates to good left over meals if such 637 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: a thing exists in your household. 638 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't get leftovers very often. I Uh. I did 639 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: a rack of lamb in the suv that was pretty good. 640 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 641 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: I did soft shell crabs one day. 642 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: Like a sandwich, just with a sauce. 643 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: I fried them and then had a little sauce with them. 644 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: M hmm. I did beef short ribs as well. 645 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: The thing with cooking, it is the hard part when 646 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: I with the two kids, is that I'm basically cooking 647 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: for myself because I'm not giving my kids like beef 648 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: short rib and so then I have to make my 649 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: kids dinner. 650 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Because you don't think they should be eating it for 651 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: health reasons or because you want more for you. 652 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm just I just no, like I don't care what 653 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: they eat, but like my kids eat, like like they're 654 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: five and they're eating bone and rib eyes. I just 655 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: feel like that's not like like just like go like 656 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: go eat chicken nuggets, you know. 657 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean like just this, that's not right. 658 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 2: I like the idea of your kids ordering Oonie and 659 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: just having like a very sophisticated sushi palad at five 660 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: and three. 661 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: We we we think them a sushi a bunch. When 662 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: we were allowed to go out to dinner and they 663 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: we try to get them to eat sushi, they just 664 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: they wouldn't do it. 665 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: That's at least good. The egg Oonie I think is 666 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: the sea or chin like, oh yeah, yeah, but delicious. 667 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: It's good. 668 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty good. 669 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Food. There was a day me and you went to 670 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: eat New York City. We had two lunches back to back. Yeah. 671 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: I tell people this that that, and I tell them 672 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: it's not unusual. 673 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: We went to Ramen and they were like, we're still 674 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: happy when I walked out like two blocks, got two tacos. 675 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: It was great. I recommend Bang Bangs to everybody. 676 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: It was it was, it was really good. Uh yeah. 677 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: And by the way, our friend Matt Ford, he loves 678 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: me because I share the greatest story of all time 679 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: where Bill Barnwell friend of everyone. 680 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 681 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: Of course, back when I didn't have access to stats, 682 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: I just text Bill and Bill would just provide me 683 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: with said stats. And Matt loved that Bill was able 684 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: to help me out with stats. He's like, you're a 685 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: pro athlete and you just texted Bill for stats. I said, yeah, 686 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't have any other I don't have any where 687 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: to get stats. So Bill like was very helpful to run. 688 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: And Matt thinks, just the best thing of all time. 689 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: Bill's the best there's I mean, just to know you is. 690 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: There are just circumstances like we went to a Christmas 691 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: party a couple of years ago now, and you showed 692 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: up having shopped at a department store with like fourteen 693 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 2: pairs of shoes for your children. I don't know anybody 694 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: else that does that. You were sweaty and carrying a 695 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: garbage bag full of discount shoes for your kids. 696 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: I forgot about that. I went to northstrom Rack. I 697 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: was like a mile and a half the hotel. I 698 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: forgot about that. 699 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: There's you went. I was listening to your podcast and 700 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: I love all the Jeff details are great. I was 701 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: listening to your podcast that you do with Matt and 702 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: he's a former producer at what Good Morning Football and 703 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: the Katie Nolan Show. He's great and Gabe Goodwin, and 704 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: you told a story about how you like EDM. You 705 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: just don't like dancing and standing, and you would like 706 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: to go to an EDM festival if you could just 707 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: sit somewhere on the side of the stage and enjoy 708 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: the music. No drugs, no dancing, just that big nasty bass, 709 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: like yes, Like. 710 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: The other day we were sitting there. 711 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: Video posted on my Twitter at Jeff Schwartz and my 712 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: kids dance into like borges like I don't know. I 713 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: was just on their house until we listened to the 714 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: house and like listening to these I just don't want 715 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: to I don't want to dance. I mean, I'll dance 716 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: a little bit, but forty five minutes my back. 717 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: Has had enough. 718 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: I just want to be able to sit and just 719 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: enjoy the music and let let my wife and her 720 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: friends dance and just have fun. 721 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: You're out on one of the three letters that make 722 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: up the term DM. You're out on d. 723 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: Yes and uh yeah, and look any I don't drink 724 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: and I don't do drugs, obviously, I just would be 725 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: sober like three a m. The Las Vegas Motor Speedway 726 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: listening to Tiesto with his new his new music for 727 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: the year, and just. 728 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: Rave it out, I guess in my chair by myself. 729 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: The other story I tell people is when you were 730 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 2: still an active NFL player, you were on I think 731 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: a high protein diet and you went and got what's 732 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: called street meet in New York with my brother when 733 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: we were all at Espianation and my brother Wolf's down food. 734 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: He's disgusting. He goes and he eats a Chipotle burrito 735 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: in like a six bites or something, and you guys 736 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: went out and got street meet. Alex. My brother came 737 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: back almost ghost faced and said, Jeff, order double meat 738 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: and he finished it before we even got back to 739 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: the office. He had never seen that sort of display 740 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: of athleticism, and it sticks with me to this day. 741 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: You're just an athlete that people don't realize. 742 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: I wish I wish you could eat like that's still 743 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh yikes, Oh that would be that'd be rough on 744 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: the old belly. Oh man, Yeah, she got street me. 745 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: I've been to York and forever. Street meat is my jam. 746 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: I can't if I had some hellel brothers now, I'd 747 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: just be in the in the in the potty. It 748 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: just couldn't do it. 749 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough. 750 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: Do you find yourself now that you have a kid 751 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: of your own seeing kid terms for like adult things 752 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 3: I just called a potty now twenty four to seven? 753 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: Do you know, well, my kid doesn't really speak yet, 754 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: he's not potty trained, so that specifically I don't do. 755 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: I do find myself. There are times where like I'll 756 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: say to my wife like, oh, did you get him 757 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: a baba for his bottle? You're like, oh, maybe we 758 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: should speak English as adults. Maybe we should save this 759 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 2: one saving grace of you know, when we not, when 760 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: we're not in front of our kid, to just speak English. 761 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: There are times where I do to that absolutely, Uh. 762 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just and now my kid now, my son 763 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: is kind of reading now, so he can kind of 764 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 3: he can listen to a spell out words and he 765 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: kind of knows what they are now, and he's like, Daddy, 766 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: I know what you said. 767 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, Alex, just I don't. I don't know that. 768 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: Time to learn Spanish or Mandarin, Well wasn't. 769 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: I've actually my wife and I actually thought about doing 770 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: like a Rosetta Stone type thing and doing exactly that, 771 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 3: like just taking like a month and learning another language. 772 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: Should be talking in front of our kids, and. 773 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: You know what, they'll probably pick it up. They're sponges, 774 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: so in the reality you're teaching them at the same time. 775 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: They are they are they are sponges. All right. 776 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: That's all the time we have, mostly because I'm hungry. 777 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: I need to eat, and I'm sure you're hungry too, 778 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: So everybody, thank you for listening. Listen to Jeff Schwartz 779 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: is smarter than you. Listen to it. Were you on 780 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio? 781 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do some Fox with but I mostly do 782 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: the Pac twelve show on Serious X yes six to 783 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: nineties during now. Look, we're kind of podcast forming it 784 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 3: right now, but still at six o'clock every night Monday 785 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: through Friday. 786 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: Follow him on Instagram, follow him on Twitter, and by 787 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: all means, just enjoy the Jeff Schwartz experience as everybody 788 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: else does. Jeff, thank you very much for your time 789 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: and uh continue luck in the household. 790 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate. Sending to you guys. M m 791 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: Hmm.