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Speaker 1: so much more cast, whereas like the British version like

427
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: launched the careers of like uh one direction and like

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Speaker 1: sher Lloyd who was a thing for a little while,

429
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: and Leona Lewis well, like I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I think they just see like some like you know,

431
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: some like teen sevens and they're like, yeah them, put

432
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: them in a group, we'll figure it out. One of

433
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Speaker 1: them will pop. You know what I liked about American

434
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Speaker 1: I know they were like early seasons, was like they

435
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: the contestants just looked like the little normies, like normal people.

436
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, Kelly Clarkson, like I mean, like Kimberly Locke.

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Speaker 1: For God's sake, it's like British baking show. If they

438
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Speaker 1: did that in America. They were doing in America they

439
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: couldn't find, but like the host they would They would

440
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: have recast the hosts immediately. They would have brought them

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00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: in for auditions to give the material about how the

442
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: show should run. And then they would have been like,

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00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: fuck you guys, we're recasting you as like a hot

444
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: little twenty one year old um, you know, and like

445
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: have her parent there takes on baking. You know that's horrible.

446
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't they doing that? Isn't there a great

447
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 1: American baking show? Now? I don't know that. I've actually

448
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: had a blind spot here for the British breaker for

449
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: me to start. Maybe I watch it over Christmas loves it.

450
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: I hate most competitive reality like it, but it makes

451
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: me too hungry. Yeah, that's that's the trouble with food shows,

452
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: is that to get hungry? What a world? Trump's America.

453
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Speaker 1: I just started saying the trouble with food, which she

454
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Speaker 1: never is. Far from my break. It's going to have

455
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: like a spirit animal person. It's her And that got

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Speaker 1: me in a lot of trouble when I was like

457
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Speaker 1: in sixth grade and I was acting like her and

458
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: trying to also be like little straight boy like I

459
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: would say the things that she said in school you

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Speaker 1: can't do. I mean like I was saying like ducka

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00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: ducka ducka like. She was semi famous for saying like

462
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: awkward things. She was like the girl next door from Texas,

463
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: and I would literally she inspired me to be like her.

464
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: She was truly my American idol. This is what I

465
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: did in school. Um and I my god, this is

466
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: a shameful admission. The Trump episode of SNL in two

467
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Speaker 1: thousand four or five. I brought the tape. I taped it.

468
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Speaker 1: I brought into school to show my science teacher who

469
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Speaker 1: was a huge apprentice, and we were everyone was watching

470
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: the Apprentice and Donald Trump. No no, no no, no, no, no, no, no,

471
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Speaker 1: but not true. No. I loved Oma Rosa, who was

472
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: now in Trump's transition team and is a despicable human being. Um,

473
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: but Maya Rudolph did an update like like sort of

474
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Speaker 1: walk on character as Oma Rosa and like ship falls

475
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Speaker 1: on her head and it's so funny. I showed it

476
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Speaker 1: to I showed it to my science teacher and I

477
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: was like, man, the Apprentice is the best show, isn't it?

478
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: And then she and I are both like yeah, and

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00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: that's just a dark And do you feel like as

480
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: a nerdy kid, I'm I'm sort of like projecting, but like,

481
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Speaker 1: do you feel like you had those moments where you

482
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: would bring something into school or like go above and beyond?

483
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: And then later you'd be like, why was I trying

484
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: so hard just just to the regular? What was that?

485
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: There there one that stands out for you? I'm trying

486
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: to think, I know. I definitely gave one of my

487
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: teachers in high school like a magazine I was reading

488
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: because it was like I was like, oh, you'll like

489
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: this article, you know, like just like step where you're

490
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: like and it was like it was like my lesbian

491
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: ap history teacher, and I was like, you're gonna like this.

492
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: It was like about um. It was about like how

493
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: they marketed cigarettes to kids or something, and she loved it.

494
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: But then you look back and you're like, what was

495
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I doing? Why? Yeah, because we kids and we want

496
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: to impress adults. I love. Do you have one of those? God? Yeah?

497
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: So do you guys? Remember the two poets Relaine and Rimbo.

498
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: They had like a weird love affair and one of

499
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: them tried to shoot the other because it was a

500
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: really Yeah. So my friend, my friend Dustin and I

501
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: like wrote this whole song about the like romantic age

502
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: of poetry, and we made like a whole music video

503
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: of these like two game and like having a like

504
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: tumultuous relationship and eventually killing each other. And I was like,

505
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: really quirky. We made a whole video back before there

506
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: was like I movie. And then we're like, here, class,

507
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: here it is, and they're like, does not. I mean, honestly,

508
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. I mean I just think it's

509
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: an adult you Like you can envision the other kids

510
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: in that classroom and you're like, oh, they hated me.

511
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Like ready, I wrote my social study during seventh grade.

512
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: We were studying um American history, and we were talking

513
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: about the Revolution and we were talking about the Boston

514
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: massacre and the trial that followed so famously it was

515
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: won by the defense, so um uh. And I was

516
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: John Adams and I was the defense attorney, and we

517
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: basically had to just recreate the trial. It was just

518
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: like like a recreation of the trial that followed the

519
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Boston massacretcy, who was that wrong? Historically? My character one?

520
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: But I came with a nine page closing argument that

521
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I did for the class, and I personally attacked people

522
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: in the class for the way they had acted during

523
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: the trial. I was like, Paul Revere came up here

524
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: and couldn't even get through his testimony and I but

525
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: it was like half historical grounds and I historically we won, Yeah,

526
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: but you were like subtweeting everyone in the room. But seriously,

527
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: and they and it was so long, and I lost,

528
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: and they voted against me because I was was too good.

529
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: And my slof Studies teacher came up to me because

530
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: he could tell I was really upset, and he was like,

531
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that was a

532
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: really good piece of writing and I'd love a copy

533
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: of it. And I like love Paul this day because

534
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: he liked that. He took that to the teacher's lounge

535
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: and they giggled over him. Oh my god, that's that's

536
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: pretty special. Do you have one? Well, I mean it

537
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: was that everything. Um, I think it was. I got.

538
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Really it was that. But then like as far as

539
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: an academic thing goes, like in our drama class or no,

540
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: it was just an English class, but we got the

541
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: fuck into sonnets. I got the poetry was a whole thing.

542
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: So I brought in like comical sonnets about like taking

543
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: a ship and like like like farting in in a

544
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: piano lesson, like stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. I still remember

545
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: a line I wrote in my one of my poems

546
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: that in a writing in eighth grade, ninth grade, and

547
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: it was the poem was called Venom, and the line was,

548
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I hope that you choke on one of your lies

549
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: and you know what it's like to suffocate. And I

550
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: wrote that down and set it out out through my class,

551
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: and then my teacher missed Amiko was like, wow, there's

552
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: nothing else to say. That's very passionate that we're looking for.

553
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: But I felt and that was like at the time

554
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: when I was listening to like a lot of like

555
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Aril Avril Levine and like Kelly Clarkson, and so there

556
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: by therefore by proxy like checking out Atlantis Morris set

557
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: because that was there. Yeah, very good. I have a

558
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: theory about this because I also got very into poetry

559
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: when that was like what was offered in seventh grade.

560
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's just so little of our curriculum

561
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: was like creativity base, and there were so few outlets

562
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: to like actually do anything creative in school. So when

563
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that came up and they were like, now you guys

564
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: get to write something, we were all the little like

565
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: nerdy sensitive kids were like, Okay, I want to know

566
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: what I think. I have feelings over here a lot.

567
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: But also they weren't your real feeling performative things that

568
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: like you could maybe kind of hearing the pop songs. Yeah,

569
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, can we talk about Okay, because I

570
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you this question because this is a

571
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: unique position that you're in listening now. Yeah, first of all,

572
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: let's let's say there is stars Bran and maybn Beth

573
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: and Peter mcnerny's kids. You must follow them on Instagram

574
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: because they're unbelievable. I think Brent is actually a comedic

575
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: already a star, and now I feel like you are

576
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: in an amazing position because we ask our guests usually

577
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: what culture shaped you? But now you get to kind

578
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: of steer these kids into what kind of culture they're

579
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: getting up there? They're seeing and I know some some stuff,

580
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: but what is what are Britain may even like, what

581
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: are they watching? What are they what are they discussing? Well,

582
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: it changes week two weeks. I think he probably saw

583
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram this week it was Secret Life of Home Alone.

584
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Secret Life of Pets was like musically a very big

585
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: hit for them because it has like big pop song um,

586
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and they both were just shaken around to it. Um.

587
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Shaking around Home Alone is actually like not really grabbing brand.

588
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: Like he enjoyed that scene because we kind of like

589
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: put in front of him. But the show, the movie

590
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: as a whold is not like have enough like music

591
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: or cartoons for him to be drawn in. I guess

592
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: he probably just knows the screenplay logistically is a huge mess.

593
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't know. I don't think so, Yeah,

594
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's um. Lately, he's been pretty into

595
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: the movie inside out, which is teaching him about feeling,

596
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: which I think it's good for him because he's like

597
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: mimicking the emotion. Oh yeah, we've seen that. Yeah, and

598
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: he's like he was like a couple of weeks ago,

599
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: he was like crying about something and I was like,

600
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: what's going on. He's like, I sad, Like he had

601
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: a name to put to it, so that was good.

602
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: Um what else? He was rullly into cars for a

603
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: while that I was going to say, yeah, I haven't

604
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: seen it. Well, I guess is this part of Matt's question,

605
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: like is there stuff that you and Peter want to

606
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: eventually introduce to Brita Like yeah, I mean we definitely

607
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: like started a little bit, but some stuff is too

608
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: old for him. Like Peter pushed like Dumbo pretty hard,

609
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: which I'm not. It's just one of those things like

610
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: whatever movie you watched eight million times as a child,

611
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: you kind of wanted to see how your child reacts

612
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: to it, So that was his thing. He also likes

613
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: The Wizard of Oz, but that's like too old for

614
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: a Brandon and I pushed Mary Poppins because that's like

615
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: my childhood thing growing up. That was like, why you're

616
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: so dark. Yeah, I am so hard. We had in

617
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: my household, we owned two videos for most of my childhood,

618
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: and it was The Wizard of Oz and Mary Poppins.

619
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: And the Wizard of Oz was terrifying to me, so

620
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: we watched Mary Poppins over and over again. But so

621
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: he was like pretty into that. Um and that's where

622
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: he I don't know if you've seen his instagrams where

623
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: he tells jokes, but that is from a Mary Poppins

624
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: scene where they sing I love to laugh and they talked.

625
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: So we love the awareness of how funny he knows

626
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, he says regularly, I'm so funny. So

627
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: you know he's now aware of his power. I think

628
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: I clocked this early on because one of the first

629
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: brand videos that I clocked this Peter I called Instagram

630
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: instagrams Peter posted. I think it was like the second

631
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: ever brand video of Brand just I think he must

632
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: have not even been a year old, maybe it was

633
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: like a year and a half, two years old, sitting

634
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: at on his high chair and Peter just from camera

635
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: off screen is doing a little a little bit of

636
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the sound and then Brian mimics it. Yeah, and then

637
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Peter laughs and then as the response, Brent starts laughing

638
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: and it was one of the most for the most heartwork.

639
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: We're also blown away, I think because we don't have

640
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: any children to watch, were like literally watching and be like,

641
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is how it works. No, I

642
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: think it's fun for us as like creative people to

643
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: have kids that have like creative impulses and like over

644
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: probably overly nurtured them. Um, because our our parents were

645
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: like not always like super into our creativity. So it's

646
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: like we're probably like like nurturing it too much. But

647
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. I think it's great we're creating

648
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: beautiful monsters. Like Brian is like a natural performer and

649
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: he loves attention, so like anytime you are into him

650
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: repeating something, he's like, Okay, here you go. I said,

651
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: the most surprising, consistent and prolific performer in this community.

652
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: And he doesn't even know it now. Yeah, he hasn't

653
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: awareness of the camera that I don't even have at

654
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: this where I'm like, oh, I need to like blink less.

655
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: And there was there was this weird moment a few

656
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: months ago where I was filming him on the phone

657
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: and he knew I was filming him, so he was

658
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of performing for the phone. And then at a

659
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: certain point it's like I was like, you know, filling

660
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: up my phone too much, so I turned off the

661
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: record and he was like he could tell that I

662
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: wasn't recording and that I was just going through the motions,

663
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: and he kind of like called me out on it.

664
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: He was like, was like no, like like it's just

665
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: like so funny, Like he could sense, like he was like,

666
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: this needs to be a command. I mean, that's ye,

667
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: that's the X factor. That's the other side of the

668
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: coin to like that baby trying to flip, entrepreneur trying

669
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: to zoom into a book, you know, and this is

670
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: like the other side of that, where it's like this

671
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: is this is a good thing that technology is giving

672
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: to well. I have to say, if there's one that

673
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: I want everyone to watch, and this, to me is

674
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: the iconic one. It's Bryn gets on the phone and

675
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: has a conversation in gibberish, fullerish, nothing, but the inflections

676
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: are so that you will follow the conversation every step

677
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: of the way, and it's there's a perfect pauses and

678
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 1: he really is listening, and then he's just like, no, no,

679
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: this is done. But it's just like yes and those

680
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: in affirmatives and it's mind blowing, my god. And then

681
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: Peter goes are they saying bye? And he goes bye bye,

682
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: and then he hangs it up iconic. Yeah, guys, everyone watching,

683
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: it's not Peter's handles. I think that's a Peter. That's

684
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: a Peter one, I think. But this is a great

685
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: channel strategy, two separate accounts to synchronize, because then one

686
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: day Britain will want to have an Instagram and then

687
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: and you'll have a mass the followings of both of you,

688
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a very popular team, very popular team.

689
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of content, I had this, like genuine question now

690
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: now that we're like post election, is there, have you

691
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: guys had these any meetings so far to talk about

692
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: any I don't know, like tactical or like onsensus stupid

693
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: like strategy shifts like post election, just like in terms

694
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: of like the way you write things or the way

695
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: you cover things or whatever. I mean, we've had like

696
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: informal conversations about it, Like there's definitely like baseline, We're

697
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: never gonna waste their time covering like Trump's small hands

698
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: or like we're like that just like any kind of

699
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: like normalization like you would a normal president, Like that's

700
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: not but yeah, we've agreed like the Trump residencies a

701
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: women's issue, so like that at his fair game on Reductress.

702
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, we've like I don't know, I guess

703
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of these conversations like in our

704
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: own heads. But that's that's kind of like a thing

705
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: we had about Trump already was like we're not going

706
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: to do like the small hand stuff and we're not

707
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna like take the easy jokes because it's like why,

708
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I guess when everyone else is doing that, Like I

709
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: don't know. I also have like ever since, ever since

710
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: he was like hitting like mass media coverage early in

711
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: the election and people were like, stop covering him, he's

712
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: getting all his attention, but then everyone just kept covering him.

713
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: My feeling is sort of like it's sort of he's

714
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: sort of like an abuser. Like we keep having these

715
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: sex scant like sex assault sexual assault scandals in our community,

716
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: and I'm sort of like every time it happens, I'm like,

717
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: it's not about that guy, It's about us all trying

718
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: to protect ourselves from these types of guys. It's not

719
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: this one guy. So like when I talk about it,

720
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't like to be like so and so did

721
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: this blah blah blah, I hate and so I want

722
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: to talk about like why do these people behave this way?

723
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: And how are we not looking out for women and

724
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So when it comes to Trump, I

725
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: still am just like I don't want to do a

726
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: lot of Trump coverage. I don't want to like I mean,

727
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: we do cover him, for sure, but like when it's justified, yeah,

728
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: like how can we talk about this and how can

729
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: we talk about the forces that play without just being

730
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: like Trump is a bad man? Well, what's so great

731
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: about reductress? I think just as someone that enjoys the

732
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: comedy of is how specific it always is, So like

733
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to do just like this. You expect

734
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: like to hear something about you know, um Trump, and

735
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's it's just like it's something specific that pertains

736
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: to It is in the voice of your magazine, and

737
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: so like that has to be right. And my question

738
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: might have been like a little simplistic then just to

739
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, since the president, since the presidency is

740
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: now a women's is like a very gendered thing now

741
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: has to have things changed. But maybe that's not even

742
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: that that might be a lazy or something ahead. It's

743
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: a good question. I do think like there there was

744
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: definitely some questioning ourselves after the election of like are

745
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: we being too smug? You know? And I think everyone's

746
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: asking themselves like have we been a little bit smug?

747
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Is liberals like assuming we were going to win this

748
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: thing and just being like, oh, they're dumb, you know,

749
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: And now we're sort of like, how do you like

750
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: actually reach out to people? And like, I don't know,

751
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's what we were just saying, is

752
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: that there's power and sort of not pointing or mentioning

753
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't know. It's like, well, I would

754
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: imagine that the way because you guys get pitches from

755
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: all the writers, so it's like, you guys look at

756
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: all the pictures you get and is maybe this is

757
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: a question, I guess is it more Wow, let's sit

758
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: down and talk about what we want to do and

759
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: then let's look at everything, or you just kind of

760
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: look at what you have and like look at the

761
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of thoughts that you guys are getting and then

762
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: say this feels right, or like for topical stuff, we

763
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: do a lot of that chat in house because it's

764
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot of like, Okay, we know this broad thing

765
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: is a problem, but like let's break it down to

766
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: the like micro is shoes, and a lot of it's

767
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: just like throwing that micro issue out and seeing what

768
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: people have on it, and a lot of that stuff

769
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: is done the house. I mean, every once in a

770
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: while we get like freaking home runs out of people

771
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: from outside. But topical, I think like a group effort

772
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: makes all the difference in terms of really being specific

773
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: and not just being like the Trump stucks. Yeah. I also,

774
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: like one of my comedy philosophies, I like, if you're

775
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: doing a topical joke about the thing that everyone's talking about,

776
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: you kind of do want to hit the nail on

777
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: the head in terms of what the thing is. Like

778
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: you want to have an original take on that topic,

779
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: but you don't want to like skirt the issue at hand.

780
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: So it's like, obviously we're not as mainstream as like SNL,

781
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: but we do want to like speak to people about

782
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: like what's actually on their mind, So we don't need

783
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: like the most creative like philosophical side issue part of

784
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: this joke. I don't know. Um there was a headline

785
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: in the wake of that whole sexual assault um stuff

786
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: at U c B what that one? It would one

787
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: just like really like blew me away. It was I

788
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: made up my sexual assault for all the attention, So

789
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I anonymously reported my rape for the anonymous attention. Brilliant,

790
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Like I just thought it's so good, unbelievable that I

791
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: was like that says it right there. I mean, like

792
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: how you you read this and like what are you

793
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: going to say? Like the whole thing was such nonsense.

794
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean and and this gets back

795
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: to topicality and hitting the issue on the head. Um. Yeah,

796
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: that whole page that that one day was just one

797
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: of I mean it was just the circumstances were horrible

798
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: surrounding it, but just like a very satisfying thing, just

799
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: or not satisfying, but at least like I don't know

800
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: it's comforting is not the right word either, but you

801
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean like that, like it was it

802
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: was cathartic for us in the office whatever like attention

803
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: it did. It didn't get like we felt better at

804
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, just being like the is

805
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: how we feel. Sometimes you just want someone to say

806
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: what you're feeling, just like yeah, because we were, oh god,

807
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: we felt so shitty in the office that week, like

808
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: nobody was getting anything done. Like if we weren't going

809
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: to attack with the thing that was wearing us down, like,

810
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: we would have just been shitty all week. So it

811
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: was it was good to just approach that. It sucks

812
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: that it's now an issue again, and now we realize

813
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: like the way the new cycle goes, it's like, oh,

814
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: we're going to be constantly like dealing with abortion stuff,

815
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: We're constantly going to be dealing with rape culture, and

816
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's insane. Like in addition to us

817
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: just having elected uh basically someone who's committed sexual assault

818
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: to like the highest office in our country, is like

819
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: we like we haven't had I personally feel like I

820
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: haven't had like a vacation or like a break this

821
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: year that hasn't been heavily dominated by like rape allegations,

822
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: like because it keeps coming up. And I mean I

823
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: know that's like sort of like um, like a very

824
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: like privilege problem to have that I'm like, oh, my

825
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: vacation is dominated by like discussing someone else's like sexual thought,

826
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Like obviously it's not as bad as like living it,

827
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: to be sure, but it's just like it's constantly there,

828
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just our whole lives. This year

829
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: has been it's just been one after another, but it's

830
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: always been happening. We're just now aware of it. And

831
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: it's just like every other freaking problem in the world,

832
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: like we know so much now and now we have

833
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: to do something about it, Like having to explain to

834
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: my relatives who legitimately think that all of a sudden,

835
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: these Black Lives Matter people are being out of control.

836
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: It's like, no, they're just now giving given the opportunity

837
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: to speak out about this because they're able to record

838
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: it on their phones. Like the media is so I mean,

839
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: and just technology now is so sensitive. We can we

840
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: can get these things on camera. For years, we haven't

841
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: been able to get them on camera. And you know

842
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: what's amazing about that too, is like when did camera

843
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: phones become like ubiquitous two thousand eight? And I will

844
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: tell you, ask any concern whatever whatever in your family

845
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: and they're like, huh, kind of weird that Ever since

846
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Obama was elected, Black lives matter was the thing, and

847
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I wonder why. Yeah, right, it's shocking.

848
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: It's they really, these Trump people, they really, they really

849
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: go to bad and it doesn't matter what's logical, and

850
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: even Moore doesn't matter what's sensical. And you know, on

851
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: the flip side, it's like, sometimes I think about myself,

852
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, what was I willing to do that for

853
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: my Candida? And I think it is partially true. And

854
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I asked that. I'm like, if Kanye West ran on

855
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: the Democratic ticket, would I vote for him over my sins?

856
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: Marcar Rubio? Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't

857
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: think about it. I would think about it real hard.

858
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: But if he was running on the Democratic ticket, he

859
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't appoint a bunch of white supremacists to his cabinet, right,

860
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's that, there's that. But yeah, I do

861
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: constantly ask myself, like, um, are Democrats actually better in

862
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: practice or just in theory? Because I do think like

863
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I do think we're better on average, but when you

864
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: look at like media and so many things were like

865
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: in terms of representation, where we're just like shutting people

866
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: of color out of every you know, high position and

867
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: or like every TV show. You know, it's like, Okay,

868
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: we're not doing so great, like we're not doing so reep.

869
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: But look, this is what the Making Open podcast is

870
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: sort of about, is that she realized that intention was

871
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: like the big thing, like for for the Open Shuter

872
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: transition from like just like trashy like tabloid TV to

873
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: like almost spiritual things. She like Oprah, had to shift

874
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: her thinking in terms of what she wanted to how

875
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: she wanted to impact people. I feel like, as long

876
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: as liberals are I mean when I say this as

877
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: a person of color and a game in a gay

878
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: man and all this stuff um as, I feel like,

879
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: as long as liberals honestly mean well, hopefully the rest

880
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: of everything else falls into place. That sounds like a

881
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: very You know, sometimes I think there is the absolute

882
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: um not like self belief that you would do mean well,

883
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: but there is that that black hole or that kind

884
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: of like what's it like a like a blind spot

885
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, you took to your computer

886
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: in the morning to speak about social issues. Meanwhile, like

887
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: the person that voted for Trump like has like a

888
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: foot of snow at their door and they can't afford

889
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: to shovel so they were doing dealing with that and

890
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: didn't have time to think about the social issue and

891
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know what the social issue is. And because they

892
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, they can't have an opinion

893
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: on it, and so they're just trying to like, oh,

894
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: they know is it's bad, and I have to I

895
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: have to vote. So it's like I'm really trying to

896
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: get to the I'm trying to think, how can we

897
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: get to the point where we can all really even

898
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: begin to be on the same time of a middle class,

899
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: have a strong middle class. I think people in media

900
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I have to like be a little more comfortable. I

901
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: think like not having such like uh like intellectual hot

902
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: take and just like being informative on a really basic level.

903
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Because I think that's the thing that conservatives and like

904
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: Trump especially has done, is like they have these slogans

905
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: that are like, make America great again, and to like

906
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: the average person that has to get their kids to

907
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: school and pay their rent and whatever, they're like, Okay,

908
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: sounds good, Like I don't have time for a lot

909
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: more than that. So if you could just make it digestible.

910
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: The Democratic message was an anti message. It was in

911
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: response to that. It wasn't like a statement of itself there,

912
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking about yet? For you,

913
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: I just saw a picture of Hillary Clinton and Barack

914
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Obama clinking wine glasses in the sky. It's like that,

915
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know, it's

916
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: it's something to think about, and I really don't. I

917
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: don't want to feel scared saying it's something to think

918
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: about because now you get online and it's like you

919
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: can't say the right thing, but you know, end it

920
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: becomes scary, which is I think what like kind of

921
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: what you were saying before, it's like, not only is

922
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: there not a break from it in the news cycle,

923
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: there's not a break from it in the Facebook feed.

924
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: Like it's not this place where you just go to

925
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: to do stupid bits anymore. Like what I loved about

926
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, when we would do dumb

927
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: Instagram bits. I want it back. But I know, I think,

928
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: like what you were saying about intention is I think

929
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: like beyond intention, I think liberals has to be okay

930
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: with things being actually a little bit of work, and

931
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: I think like we want that, we want to be

932
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: like I'm on the right side of this. I just

933
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: signed a petition, Boom done, and like it's like, if

934
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: you want to have more diverse representation in whatever field

935
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: you work in, it's harder than that. You have to

936
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: actually reach out to people you don't know and like

937
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: go out of your way to do that, and the

938
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: first diverse person you ask is going to be unavailable

939
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: and you have to be like, I know, diverse person

940
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: is like a weird thing to say whatever, but you

941
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like you, it's like it's actual workings,

942
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: and like to undo the legacy of slaver. Really slavery

943
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: is not like boom, we fixed it. Like we have

944
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: to like actually do something about that. I have a

945
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: question for you guys. Did you guys watch Westworld? Yeah, so,

946
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: did you guys have a hard time with it in

947
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: the beginning because of like the the kind of violence

948
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: against women because it kind of got like a like

949
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: a weird rap in the beginning because it was a

950
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: very hbosh kind of show where it was like, treat

951
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: women horribly. Yeah, I mean, but I understand why I

952
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: was there. I'm not like triggered by that stuff. Like

953
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: because like, of course, if there was like a robot world,

954
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: men would fucking ripe. Yeah, it made sense to me.

955
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just yeah, I'm like, oh, that's

956
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: the world as I see it. Yeah, that's That's the

957
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: thing I have trouble with is like certain people criticizing

958
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: the show for violence against women, or criticizing any show

959
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: for like nudity or whatever, and I'm just like, but

960
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: rape does hopen that the world, So are we never

961
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: allowed to depict it? And then what's the scenario where

962
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: in if we just never depict the reality we live in?

963
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: And even when it's going to take a stance, even

964
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: even the fact that that show is about the fact

965
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: that like this is like where it's gotten to in

966
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: this world where entertainment is rape and violence and all

967
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: these things. Like, but people are like, well it still

968
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: did like use it for viewers, And it's like, so, wait,

969
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: are we in this weird kind of like paradox where

970
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: we can never talk about it? And like, how how

971
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: do you expect the visual medium to address this thing? Exactly? No?

972
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I think I mean, like we have to accept because

973
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: it's so much more insidious when we don't talk about

974
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: it directly. And I feel this way about this KKK

975
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: show on any two, Like granted I haven't seen it,

976
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: so who knows. It could be It could be extremely

977
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: poorly executed. But to actually like see that on screen,

978
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't A reasonable person, right, a person who could

979
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: be on the fence of X and Y should not

980
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: be like, that's a good idea. But when we just

981
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: don't talk about it and we just have our like

982
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: weird racist uncles who say like things under their breath,

983
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: even I don't know, I think that's much more dangerous,

984
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: don't because those people vote and they don't talk about it.

985
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: But you know, like kkk, we can point that and

986
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: be like that's alive and well, I don't know. Yeah.

987
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: Shaan King like wrote about that just the show, having

988
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: seen the pilot. He was like, I think this is

989
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 1: actually I think it's good that we're exposing these people.

990
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: But at the same time, and you have to you

991
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: have to do you have to weigh the risks something. Well,

992
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: it's like, what's intention here? Is it to entertain and

993
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: to sensationalized or is it to inform an exposure sense?

994
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: The thing, I'm worried that because of the Duck dynasty situation, like, oh,

995
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be done well if it were

996
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: an actual documentary that has a point. Supposedly people are

997
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: involved are saying that it's done in the right tone.

998
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: But I think it is one of those things where

999
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: it's more of a big picture discussion than just that show,

1000
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: because that show on its own is not necessarily bad.

1001
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: But it's like, hey, Annie, like, are you represent people

1002
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: of color on any of your shows, Because if you're

1003
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna do a show about racists, like maybe also have

1004
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: some other shows about like other groups of people. Have

1005
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: you guys watched um the leam Remini show it? But

1006
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: but it's um it's good, like the first three episodes

1007
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: and it's not good and that like yes, juicy, it's good,

1008
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: and like these people are really sharing these tough stories

1009
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: and it I would, I would say, impossible to watch

1010
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: it and not say, yeah, this can't. This has to go.

1011
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: I think that something's going to happen. Like the way

1012
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: that the show is moving along, it's just making such

1013
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: a clear case every episode really from every standpoint on

1014
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: why this cannot stand. Like and the next episode, I'm

1015
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: so excited because the next episode is going to be

1016
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: all about this David Miscavenge character who's like the Pope

1017
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: of scientology and this is going to like expose him

1018
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: and really go after him. And I think this guy

1019
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: is he is a really evil person that's living in

1020
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: this world. And I really I recommend watching the show

1021
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: just to get informed about it. I actually have a

1022
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: family friend that lost someone to scientology, and I can

1023
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: tell you, this isn't this thing that like and I

1024
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: feel bad even making jokes about it sometimes, like but

1025
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: because I know for a fact, this isn't this thing

1026
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: that exists out there. Um that like happens to people

1027
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: in California or Tampa. It happens to people everywhere. Like

1028
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: this is a real cult and it takes people away

1029
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: from their families, and I hope something goes down with it.

1030
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: Um yeah, But meanwhile Matt has been balancing that with

1031
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: Mariah's world and then you have its own way world.

1032
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: If you have to put one thing at the top

1033
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: of the list, it's Maria's and that's a light. That's

1034
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: a light in the world. Only because of all the

1035
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: side characters like talk about yes men, like the show

1036
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: was executive produced by Maria, who's horizontal the whole show.

1037
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: Just like always, I can't believe face beat to the gods,

1038
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: like she's just so it's so skewed. And the show

1039
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: was about how everyone around her was stressful in a

1040
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: problem except her. She's the one who keeps it all

1041
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: together beautiful. Did you ever see? It was like an

1042
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: MTV cribs that they went to her house and she

1043
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: like she put on like a teddy and like high

1044
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: heels and then went to her workout room and she

1045
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to use any of this.

1046
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: She gets I like workout machine in her high heels

1047
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: and she's just like, how do you do that? It's

1048
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: so funny. She's insane. I mean, she was my first concert.

1049
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: She was like part of my childhood, Like I was

1050
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: a Mariah Stan Like I knew all the worst all

1051
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: the songs, Like she was my life. So now to

1052
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: see like what she is, which is like a true Frankenstein.

1053
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: You know what's really funny. Really, the funny thing is

1054
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: like when you were a kid, my mother was being

1055
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: like I remember Mariah when she was sweet, like nineties

1056
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Mariah like she has just like devolved every decade. My

1057
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: My first CD was Mariah Carry and My Cool Aunt.

1058
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Which album was it Dream Fantasy They Dream They Dream? Yeah,

1059
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: that was would like always be my baby, and that

1060
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: was that was her like kind of like she started

1061
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: to get more like upbeing than like a little bit

1062
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: of R and B was coming in. We had music

1063
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: box in the house and that had Hero on it

1064
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: and that was like her huge when she was like

1065
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: a torch song goddess. And then the album that like

1066
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: changed my life that's seven years old, Butterfly Butterfly, which

1067
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: was her first album outside of being married to her manager,

1068
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: who was like a true monster. I mean, marine's seen

1069
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: some shut Yeah, she's you can deny this, Okay, she's

1070
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: one of them. Like she's like a Britney Spears Michael

1071
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: Jackson level, like fucked up. I'm nervous for her. The

1072
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: show is nuts, show us nuts. I hope, I hope

1073
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: and I pray that she you know, she'll she'll make it.

1074
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: Apparently she has a sense of humors a good sign, right, Yeah,

1075
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: that's that's like the kind of person like from your

1076
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: high school whenever you go over their house and the

1077
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: whole time you're just like wide eyed, like bugged out,

1078
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: like what is happening here? Like like they just have

1079
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: like the crazy mom that's like there's a dog behind

1080
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: a door. That's screaming carpet. What do you guys want

1081
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: to eat? Dogs? And then she has opened the fridge

1082
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and it's empty. It's like made of red flags. Okay,

1083
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: so this is, um, what all of our listeners have

1084
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: been waiting for. This is the cornerstone of the episode

1085
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: is We'll take us to fame someday. It's I don't

1086
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: think so, honey. We take one minute to rail against

1087
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: something in culture and that is even just not that

1088
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: is even too specific. Talk about anything you want that

1089
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: to pissing you off, anything anyone, all the ticks and taxs,

1090
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: you just have to say, I don't think so, honey, guys,

1091
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: just just just a little thing. Um. Matt has are

1092
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: already coined so many indelible little phrases on this podcast.

1093
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 1: His newest one he's trying out is ticks and tax

1094
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: Just be on the lookout for that, so just you know,

1095
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: maybe try using it in in a sentence to Yeah, great, Matt,

1096
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: you have something. I don't have anything prepared. I have

1097
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: a little something. Okay, girl, Okay, can you put me

1098
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: on the clo I'll cut you in the cloths, so

1099
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: Matt and I'll do it first and then we'll hit

1100
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: it potentially in mind it will be a little bit

1101
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: of a spoiler, but I'm gonna try to keep it

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01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: as clean as possible. But this is a culture podcast,

1103
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: and so I'd be remissed to not say my feelings

1104
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: about this particular thing. Here we go, um, Matt Rogers,

1105
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, time starts now. I don't

1106
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: think so honey. Star Wars Rogue one and your animation

1107
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: on characters from the old movies, I don't think so honey.

1108
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Grand mop Tarkness in this movie looking like super Mario.

1109
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. Cast another actor. We know

1110
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: him well, Peter Cushing was his name, he played the character.

1111
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. He comes in looking like

1112
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: someone from Halo video game. I don't think, so honey.

1113
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: I want to see human faces. You want to reboot

1114
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: this franchise. You want to give me strong female lets,

1115
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm all about it, but also give me humanity, give

1116
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: me something I can latch onto. Don't give me um

1117
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: a human actor talking to a screen. And also at

1118
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: the end spoiler alert, Princess Leiah is in it looking

1119
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: like her face was about to slide off. She's in it.

1120
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: And also they used Carrie Fisher's old dialogue and I

1121
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I want to hear Carrie Fisher

1122
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: right now. Attack this reality head on. She's a horsewoman,

1123
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: She's seen it. Her voice is she's she's been through it,

1124
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: she's been to Helen back, and I want to see

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01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: the real Carrie Fisher on screen. There's not enough Carrie

1126
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: Fisher in film. That's one minute. Oh my god, my horsewomen,

1127
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: you mean you mean h r. Her voice now is

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: just beautiful, but oh my god, but it's seen the years.

1129
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: And also the revelation that she and Harrison Ford were

1130
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: fucking all those dynamite love it you hear about this.

1131
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: She's come out and confessed that during the whole Star Wars,

1132
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: not only was she totally zoned out on coke, but

1133
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: she was also fucking Harrison Ford and the whole time.

1134
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, those movies are long, and apparently they were

1135
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: just on so such hard drugs filming those scenes like

1136
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: in it was just like god, apparently they were just

1137
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: do lines of coking then go on this and then

1138
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: like act and say this like insane dialogue. That's well,

1139
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: he's so proud anyway, I like the movie Rogue One.

1140
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't agree with the way that they chose

1141
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: to recreate the old action the movie. It's a video game. Nonsense.

1142
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: You just spoil that for me just at the end

1143
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: of the movie, if you were curious about what happens

1144
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: um with the plans for the Death Star. A lot

1145
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: of Star Wars fans listen to this podcast. I think,

1146
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: so we're all out there. I think they'd be surprised.

1147
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I think Star Wars is like pretty gay. Yeah, it's

1148
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: a queer narrative for sure, I think so. Yeah, Luke, Luke, okay,

1149
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: choke up a system, chosen family. Yeah, okay, I don't

1150
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: have anything of our here. We can know, you know what?

1151
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: I got something. Maybe it would be nice to ask

1152
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: one of our gasts if they want to go. Did

1153
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: you guys want to go first? You go ready? I

1154
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: don't think so Honey starts Oh my god, wait, hold on, no,

1155
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of time. Okay, alright, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine,

1156
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: um you know what you goin starts now. I don't

1157
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: think so Honey's incompetent baristas. I know this is a

1158
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: well trod subject. I know, like every barista is like

1159
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: a bumbling fool. But I met one today that really

1160
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: just just really got to me and got under my skin.

1161
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: I asked, I went, this is at the Starbucks on

1162
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: Spring Street, and I want to say sixth Avenue, right

1163
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: across from Trump. Soho, I don't think it's a coincidence.

1164
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: So um uh. The their crafts of milk and dairy

1165
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: were out, so I just needed any type of dairy.

1166
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, this barista. I went up

1167
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: to this gentleman, I asked him for some half and

1168
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: happy he had some from behind the counter. He said, sure,

1169
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: but wait one minute, and he was meanwhile just trying

1170
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: to fucking chump up to some rich asshole who was

1171
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: just like hanging out the counter hovering. I don't think, so, honey,

1172
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: this barista. He took a solid ten minutes to get

1173
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: me any type of dairy, mama, And I just wanted

1174
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: to make my Americano less harsh, so it didn't run

1175
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: right through me. I don't think, so, honey, burist does

1176
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Starbucks barristas who are not

1177
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: more training. That's one minute. That's one minute. I don't think.

1178
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: I just want to say I've had a lot of

1179
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: really positive experience with the stars, always undercut me always,

1180
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: I've had a really good time with them all this

1181
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: Christmas is that I'm in particular enjoying the peppermint mocha frappuccino.

1182
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: That's all good for you because I'm bravely still drinking frappuccinos,

1183
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: which they're cold. That's brave throughout this winter weather. Okay, great,

1184
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm proud, Sarah, you're up. Wow. I'm going to process

1185
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: this in real time for what we just experienced outside,

1186
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: because I don't think so, honey. Starts now, I don't

1187
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: think so, honey. The old man yelling at his wife

1188
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: around the street, right outside on Runway, it's like, excuse me.

1189
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't I can never do enough for you.

1190
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I know the backstory to this, honey.

1191
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: I know what you did, and I know this wife

1192
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: is just like he has no fucking idea what he does,

1193
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: but she's gonna say it, and he's just gonna be like,

1194
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: what do I do? It's Christmas? I'm so sad. When

1195
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: do I do? I don't think so, honey. Maybe just

1196
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: like listen to what she's saying and then maybe try

1197
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: to fix it. I don't know, or maybe just like

1198
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: don't yell on the street because let me tell you.

1199
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: We were walking down the street and we've walked an

1200
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: extra block. We walked an extra block. We were ten

1201
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: minutes late here because of this guy making a scene

1202
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: on the street. And I'm like, oh, I get it.

1203
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: It's all about you, honey. Oh my god, you've got

1204
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: listen to your wife. You're probably getting into divorce. Wow.

1205
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: A swift one at fifty seconds got the point I

1206
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: was just feeling in real time. We know exactly as

1207
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: now we have an explanation as to the lateness, but

1208
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: it was all worth it. Bath, can you corroborate this? Yeah,

1209
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah it was me, Me who's spaced out. I

1210
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: was like, it was like a laser beam for me.

1211
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't look away. Uh yeah, my god. But that

1212
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: is honestly, like, like you honestly have we have to

1213
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: figure out, as um, you know, a society how to

1214
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: respond to those things. I remember a friend of the show,

1215
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: previous guest dress in and a dressin has told me

1216
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: multiple times, unfamiliar friend of the show, front of the

1217
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: She's like talked about like just witnessing these horrible interactions

1218
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: between men and they're like significant others, and what do

1219
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: you do? Like? Do do you like? I don't know.

1220
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: It's you know what? Right for conversation? Okayast episode se Alright, Beth,

1221
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: here we go. Are you ready? Yeah? I picked out

1222
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: all right? Good? Great, here we go go. I don't

1223
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: think so, honey. People who think reverse sexism is a thing,

1224
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: take a look at power dynamics, take a look at history,

1225
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: take a look at right now and what's going on

1226
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: in this country. Women do not have more power than you.

1227
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: So just sit out and relax. Okay, us calling you

1228
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: out on your bullshit and your power and what you're

1229
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: doing to us is not the same as you walking

1230
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: all over us. Okay, I don't think so, honey. I

1231
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: know your little feelings are hurt because you've never experienced

1232
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: actual oppression, But I don't think so, honey, little white men,

1233
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: that is not oppression. Okay. I'm sorry you had to

1234
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: read a thing that made you reconcile what you are

1235
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: doing two people around you. I don't think so, honey.

1236
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: It's not happening. You are hurting people. You are the

1237
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: one that is hurting us. Okay, I don't think so, honey.

1238
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: Reverse sexism is not a thing. We got it. You

1239
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: know what we got. I think we got all the culture, social, political,

1240
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: We went cinematic. Yes, we got on the ground in

1241
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: New York City. And let's just pour it out for

1242
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: the men out there who are quick to defend accused

1243
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: sexual honestly, lighters up for the straight white men who

1244
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: get more upset when the Yankees lose than when a

1245
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: racist brings their whole crew to Washington. I see you

1246
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: screaming at the television. So I grew up with you

1247
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: all around me, and I have a lighter up for you.

1248
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: And Jimmy Buffett is playing guys, what an episode? I

1249
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: mean you guys. First of all, you must pick up

1250
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: the book How to Win the Feminism. Must It's so funny,

1251
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: it's so great. You must listen to the podcast mount

1252
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: of Time Now Time with um uh, the incredible, smart,

1253
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: brilliant Nicole Silverberg and the garbage Rachel truly a garbage bag.

1254
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: Future guests, maybe we'll see how we feel. If you're

1255
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: in l A, come see us at the Comedy Store

1256
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: in January six and on the seventeenth in San Francisco.

1257
01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: At sketch first and how right Yeah, how you CB theater? Yeah,

1258
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: January twelve. I believe a great January stack, January terrible

1259
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: January event just as it surrounds the terrible January event.

1260
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: But what will happen We'll find out, we'll talk about it. Okay, girl,

1261
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: this has been Bow and this is Matt Rogers and

1262
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: this is the last culture racist podcast. Thank you so much,

1263
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: Forever Dog. I look you in the eye as I

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Speaker 1: say that, baby, all right bye. This has been a

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Speaker 1: Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay,

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Speaker 1: and Brett Balm. For more podcasts, please visit Frevor Dog

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