1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. This is a very special episode. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Just like we mentioned on the former episode, there's two 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: bachelorttes this season. They could be competitors, they could compete 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: against each other, they could choose the lesser way. But 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: instead we know that they're supporting each other, that they're friends. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: And here we are with one of our competitors. We 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: could battle it out, we could fight it out, we 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: could sell listeners, but instead we said, no Bachelor Happy Hour, 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Let's join hands. So this is an almost famous episode 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: with two incredible guests, Beckat Koufern and Michelle Young. And 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: then part two of this episode is actually gonna be 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: on Bachelor Happy Hour, So go over there to listen 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: to that episode. Let's just get started. How are the 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: two of you doing. Let's do it great. I mean, 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself. I'm so good. It's 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: so good to see you and actually gonna miss these faces. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: And for me, it's just been you know, kind of 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: getting back into the groove of things obviously, um, but 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: but it really is nice to be here and I 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: love that we're doing this and actually like conjoining and 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: coming together because I feel like there's so much going 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: on where everything is so separate. Um, so yeah, it's 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: nice to do this, although you can always come listen 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: to part two first if you really want to. I mean, 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: we're good with that. It does, Michelle, I'm with you, 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: you know when I when I heard we're doing this. 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: It is fun and this is a podcast and it's 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: about the bachelors, so how serious can it actually be? 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: But I do think it's a like a really good 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: example of how things could be where you're like, hey, 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: there's a space in this world big enough for the 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: both of us. Let's have fun and give both of 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: our insights, both podcasts insights into this upcoming season. So 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: actually and I are pumped to have you too, absolutely 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: so excited to nothing but love. So where should we 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: be good? So much to cover? Let's start with Becca 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: and at the engagement and all that, because we haven't 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: caught up with you on the podcast about that. I 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: know that you want to keep some things private and 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: he said that you wanted to keep in private for 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: a while, But are you ready to tell us all 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the details? Oh yeah, I mean listen, I'm an open 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: book and this is such a fun time in my 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: life personally with Thomas that I mean, I could talk 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: about our engagement and the day of the proposal for hours. 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: So you're probably gonna need to tell me to shut that, 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: shut the f up at some point, Okay, for hours 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to yeah over there smiling and I'm just over here smiling. 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: That's all I need, alright. So how long were you 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: planning the proposal start there? I had been planning it 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: for just over a month, about a month and a half. 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: It started like early April, and then I finally popped 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: the big question mid May. Um, so a few weeks 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: which it was a few weeks of me like try 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: not to have word vomit and say too much around him. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: But it was such a fun process. You know, It's 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: something I never thought I would do in my life, 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: and I would say most women probably never thought that 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: they would do in their life. So it was really 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: cool just to like soak it in and be the 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: one to plan the proposal. Did you get down one knee? 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Technically no, I did ask him if he wanted me to, 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: But we were sitting in a very tight spot with 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: a tent that was about to fall down behind us, 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and we were under this little table with charcouterian wine. 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I love you. Um, I 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: put the ring on his finger and I said the 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: right words, but I was like, do you need me 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to actually get on a knee? But I did it 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: like a week later. I did it as a joke. 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: So I feel like that counts. You know, Becca, It's 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: interesting because its two years ago. You and I were 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: hosting Bachelor Live on stage together, traveling the country, two 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: very different places in life. I was just getting ready 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: to propose to my now wife, uh, and you were 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of processing and figuring life out all so, you know, 78 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: soon after that, becoming single and then meeting Thomas. I 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this, but something that I 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: was really honored by and then I really appreciated from 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: me as a friend, as you called me before Paradise 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: and said should you go? Um, you're worried about it 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. You're a lead that's going to Paradise. 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: That's different. It's not really happening looking back now. I mean, 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: obviously you're happy you win, but does it all feel 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: like a whirlwind to you? Like? How are you processing 87 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: these quick changes in life that have happened. I mean, 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: from my perspective, it feels like it's happened so fast 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: in such a good way, like in such a healthy, 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: fun way, but like it's happened really fast. So that's 91 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: actually a question we get all the time, is you know, 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: especially like in terms of my relationship with Thomas. Now, 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: like you guys are already engaged, it's only been a year. 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: But then I think back to when I actually went 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: on the show, you know, when I was a contestant 96 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, and then when I was lead, like 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: that that's way sped up, you know, Like so for 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: me now, I'm like, yeah, is happening fast, But what 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I've lived through in the past, this is kind of 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: drawn out a bit. But but for me, like it 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: just feels right, Like Thomas and I since the get go, 102 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: we're so on the same page, so in sync with 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: how we wanted our relationship to be, how we wanted 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: our future to be, how we wouldn't, you know, want 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: to raise a potential family one day that it just 106 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: it all felt right, Like nothing nothing with him has 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: felt forced or like we have to do something by 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: a certain time frame. Um, but yeah, going back to 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: what you just said about me going to Paradise and 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: not knowing if I wanted to do it and picking 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: your brain like that, that, yes, feels like a whirlwind. 112 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: And it's still like, I mean, I'm surprised in general 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: that I went to Paradise in the first place, but 114 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I did. And what was actually 115 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: cool about filming like that chapter of my life. And actually, 116 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: maybe you can attest to this is it feels so 117 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: different from a normal bachelor bacherette season. Like it feels 118 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: like because you have so much time with your partner 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: on the beach and so much alone time to like 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: have the real deep conversations that you need like that part, 121 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: Like it still feels like world. But it still felt 122 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: like I had enough time to make a decision to 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: come out of Paradise, like if I wanted to get 124 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: back together with this man or not, if that makes 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: sense one thousand per cent. Like when Jared and I 126 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: left season two, I was like, that wasn't the end 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: of this, you know, But I think that on the 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: main shows, you kind of are forced into thinking that, like, Okay, 129 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: it's this person or to bust, like the other people 130 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: don't count. There's definitely not a future besides anything that, 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: like the decision that I made right here, right now, 132 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: it's everything seems a little bit more flexible with Paradise. 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Would you say that you being one of the few 134 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: people that kind of got to experience all three of 135 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: the franchise shows, you understand why the success right of 136 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Paradise is greater than the others when we like do 137 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the ratio? M hm, oh, yeah, yeah, totally. I mean 138 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: you you just spend more time with people when you're 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: on the beach, and I think it has something to 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: do with that. There are so many relationships that the 141 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: show is trying to catch and film and follow these 142 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: storylines that a lot of times, at least in my 143 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: experience with Thomas, our story kind of, and not to 144 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: say this in a bad way, it was actually great 145 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: for us. Our story kind of fell by the wayside 146 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: because there were other couples that you definitely knew were 147 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna get engaged, that were, you know, fresh out 148 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: the gate day one, super strong and solid, and so 149 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Thomas and I were able to spend so much time 150 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: away from the drama and the cameras to actually get 151 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: to know one another and really form a relationship, Like 152 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I remember that. I think it was the night after 153 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: our first date. Him and I laid just in the 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: middle of the beach on a bean bag for probably 155 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: five hours straight, just talking about morals and values and 156 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: like what we learned from our last relationships and what 157 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: we want to take into a future relation ships and 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: like that was never aired. That was never filmed because 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, in reality it was such a boring conversation. 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: But but you just spend so much more time with 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: your partner on the beach and and also what school 162 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: has seeing them interact with everyone else. It's not like 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: when I was a lead, I was so removed from 164 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the men in the house because it's like you film, 165 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you have like your certain things that you have to do, 166 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: and then they kind of take you away, right Like 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I was constantly in the midst and then immersed with 168 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Thomas and seeing how he interacted with the producers, with 169 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: other cast members, with everyone on the beach, so I 170 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: could get a more well rounded picture and version of 171 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: who he was, which I think really helped me come 172 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: out of paradise to be like, oh I missed that, 173 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I want that, you know. I obviously broke up with him, 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: but in hindsight, I'm like, I wouldn't want to lose him. Yeah. Well, 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: the final question for you, Becca, until we just get 176 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: into a big old group chat because we do have 177 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Michelle here and I'm really excited to catch up with Michelle. 178 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Uh and here house she's doing in life. It's just 179 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: with four people, we gotta pick and choose our lanes 180 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: right now. But uh, Becca, I've always been intrigued by 181 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: this Um. You know, Thomas is Um. I guess people 182 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: knew him from the Bachelorette and people weren't like fans 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: of Thomas Um, especially other cast members. We got to 184 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: see that. I don't think you did. I think you 185 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: were already gone by the time that was kind of airing. 186 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I've got to know still saw Oh you still saw good? Well, 187 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: this even makes it juice here. I've gotten to meet 188 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Thomas a few times now. I think the world of him. 189 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I think he's a great dude. Obviously you think the 190 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: world of him. You're engaged to him, So that's a 191 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: good start. Did you Was that hard for you, though, 192 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: um to work through that? Did that? Did that ever 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: pop into your mind? Like, Hey, is this really the 194 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: guy that that I know? Like, how did you deal 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: with knowing that his perception on the Bachelor it was 196 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: not good and then allowing yourself to fall in love 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: with that guy. Yeah, so it was definitely I don't 198 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: want to curse much on here, but like a mind 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: f I would say, because I was leaving with him 200 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: on the beach, seeing him interact with everyone, and then 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: I was also, you know, once a week going back 202 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to watch an episode quick and to recap and podcasts, 203 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: and so I was seeing who he was in real life. 204 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, like when we were filming on 205 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: that beach, guys from a season where there James lived 206 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: on the beach with us, Aaron was there. Um, I 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: can't even think of who, Like, there were some other 208 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: guys there and they all got along like they're cool. 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: And so I'm watching like the drama play out on 210 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: the show and like seeing what Aaron, especially as saying 211 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: about Thomas and then seeing them like brow it out 212 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: on the beach and I'm like, is this all for TV? 213 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: You know? I get that people will say and do 214 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: certain things, and like, yes, the show added to Thomas 215 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: to be the quote unquote villain, but like at the 216 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: end of the day was he he He personally wasn't 217 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: fighting with anyone, saying anything about other people. Guys just 218 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: didn't like him because he's he admitted to being like, yeah, 219 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I could be the Bachelor, like it it's crossed my mind, 220 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: like that is a possibility to come from. I loved 221 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: his honesty so much, and we talked about that. We 222 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: were like, this guy is being villainis or being honest 223 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: and all these other guys are lying at that thought 224 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: is not in their head. Yeah, And like from what 225 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: I've gathered now from not only Thomas, but other guys 226 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: that lived on that season, because I just did the 227 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: tour with several of them, Like, I don't know how 228 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: much we can include here, but like there was a 229 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: conversation one night from I'm not going to say who 230 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: it was, but somebody that was on Paradise. Thomas was 231 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: the guy to be like, hey, have like this is crazy. 232 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: At the end of this one of us here in 233 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: this house is going to be the badgeler. Have you 234 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: guys thought about that? And that's what kick started the 235 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: actual conversation the next day that was filmed to then 236 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: make Thomas look like this bad guy. And so there's 237 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: like so many little pieces that no one will ever realize. 238 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, at first it was very tough for me 239 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm getting to know Thomas on 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: the speech. He seems like a great dude. He's getting 241 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: along with everyone. There's no issues that I'm witnessing in 242 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: real life, so what the hell is going on? And 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: then I finally got out of Paradise and I had 244 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: to be like, like, it's all kind of on the 245 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: show and editing at this point, like I know Thomas, 246 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: like I've seen him interact with people from the show 247 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: and outside of the show now, and I love who 248 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: he is, so I'm going to trust myself and go 249 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: with that. And finally when I kind of just brushed 250 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: everything off and I was like, people are gonna hate 251 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: anyone regardless, like based on the TV show edit or not, 252 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: Like I can't let that affect me in my relationship. 253 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: I just kind of got to the point where I 254 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: was like f everything else and like I picked this man. 255 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: We're together, and like that's that's where has my heart, 256 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: That's where my loyalty lies. I remember like that even 257 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: like the first time I met Thomas and I had 258 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: like seen this edit right, and like back at you 259 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: and I are close where Minnesota girls and that I'm protective. 260 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: I think it was like in the first five minutes, 261 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, something he's not adding up here, like 262 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: the edit went completely wrong. Whatever it was. All I 263 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: think now is how like this man is the nicest 264 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: man I've ever met. He's so thoughtful. I remember he 265 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: packed me a bag of snacks, Like, not, didn't you 266 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: ask him to you? Yeah? He like, Hey, Michelle, I 267 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: know you have a really long rest of your day 268 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: when we're doing like a photo shooter stuff um for 269 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: like all the podcasts, And he's like, I packed you 270 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: a bag of snacks because I know that you said 271 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: you're hungry and you have a long day ahead of you. 272 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's just him and yeah, and it's 273 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: it's so like it is so genuine and it's just 274 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: who he is. And he's constantly thinking about other people. First. 275 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: He's constantly checking in and like connecting with people, whether 276 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: you are you know what I mean, like a well 277 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: known person or somebody else. Like he just he's just 278 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: so so so genuine and thoughtful. Can we talk about 279 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: possibly the fact that these guys were intimidated by him? 280 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Because he is like six ft five and gorgeous and 281 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: super nice. I mean that's what people have said that before, like, 282 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: and I think Demi or Marissa and somebody last season 283 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: on the Beach said like these guys are just jealous 284 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: of him because like they want to be Like, I 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I just like the whole jealousy thing just 286 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: seems so juvenile to me, of like you're actually gonna 287 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: hate this person because of like how tall they are. 288 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know how guys minds operate. Man, 289 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: maybe you can speak more to that, but all I 290 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: can say is at the end of the day, like 291 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: he's cool with everyone that you know, the show showed 292 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: that he had beef with um so I don't know. 293 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: I saw I saw Thomas at my wedding. I was jealous. 294 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is my wedding day. Is something 295 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: that guys really like they do get intimidated by. Don't 296 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: act like I'm a short dude, No no, no, not you. 297 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: But like Jared looking up Thomas, like it's the kind 298 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: of thing that he'll continue. He dared six foot but 299 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: like if he's looking up at a guy, we'll leave 300 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: the party and He'll be like, man that Thomas like, wow, 301 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: they really laughing because we're talking about how like height 302 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: is something that guys really mattered. And then then you 303 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: chime in, I'm bothered by the night we don't and 304 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, before we move on from Becca, 305 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I do have one I one question. I just have 306 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: to ask. You got engaged twice on TV and both 307 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: of those engagements went. Did you feel like you were 308 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: taking the power back when you decided to be the 309 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: one to propose that play a factor? Um? I don't 310 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: know if I would say taking the power back, but 311 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: I just felt like I finally was at the point 312 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: where I had a choice, you know, like I feel 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: like only in the show as a contestant on our 314 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: season and then being lead, like there is such a 315 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: pressure to get engaged at the end. And realistically, in hindsight, 316 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: now would it have been a thousand times smarter of 317 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: me to be like, look, I picked this person, I'm 318 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: in love with them, but I'm not ready to get 319 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: engaged a thousand percent Like that's maybe what should have happened, 320 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: But you know, you kind of get sucked into this 321 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: world and you feel that pressure, and so yes, I said, 322 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, yes, I will marry these other people when 323 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: they've asked me very much on somebody else's terms. That 324 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: I kind of just felt like I finally have a 325 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: partner where we have the same goals in life, especially 326 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: in terms of this relationship. And it was more so 327 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: me just wanting to show him how committed I am 328 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: and like how I want to meet him halfway and 329 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm not gonna lie. It felt really 330 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: damn good to kind of be the one, not even 331 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: in control because I don't want to use that word, 332 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: but to say like I'm meeting you halfway and like 333 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I finally have a say in my next engagement like 334 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the first who I didn't really whatsoever, And now we 335 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: can do this together and start this new part of 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: our relationship together however we want. And so that was 337 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: really special. Like I made a comment once um in 338 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: another interview of like Thomas being like the first guy 339 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: actually want to marry and they'll probably weren't the right words, 340 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: but like Thomas is the first guy that I like 341 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: proactively want to be engaged to on my timing and 342 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: I proactively want to plan a wedding with Okay, if 343 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: that makes sense I was going to ask you about 344 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: that because I recently read that and I was like, 345 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: I could see you saying that about Ari. But you 346 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: were with Garrett and happily for a while. Yeah, but 347 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: we were at the place where like we had never 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: planned anything for a wedding, Like we never got to 349 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: that stage where I was like, I want to take 350 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: this next step. I want to solidify this, like and 351 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: even when I was in that relationship, like guess there 352 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: was love and we were committed to each other for 353 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: two and a half years, but we were never ready 354 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: to take that next step and like be all in 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: and like join our lives together, if that makes sense. 356 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: And like Thomas is the first guy that I actually 357 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: want to do that where I'm like, Okay, maybe marriage 358 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: actually is for me and I want to do this now. 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah the uh I just sitting here thinking, Um, if 360 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't for your situation with Ari, you wouldn't have 361 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: been the bachelor atte. If you wouldn't have been the bachelor, 362 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: you would have never met Garrett, who then kept you 363 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: within the franchise long enough to then go on Paradise. 364 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Don't go on Paradise. You wouldn't have found the love 365 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: of your life, Thomas, and we're so happy for you. Becca. 366 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: It's just weird how things work out. Which transitions. Um 367 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: always easy, it's not always fun. I've been That was 368 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: my trans going here A continued Michelle. You we're gonna 369 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: start by saying, hey, you're not alone. First off in 370 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: this group with Becca and I here, we've both had 371 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: um some really like like truly life hard, real difficult 372 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: scenarios through this franchise and had to then figure out 373 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: how to talk about him air amount in the public eye. 374 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: And it sucks. So, Um, answer what you want, don't 375 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: answer what you don't want. It's just a really hard time. 376 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: But how are you doing? I guess would be how 377 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: I start this is how are you holding up? Um? 378 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: It's been quite a transition, I would say, Um, just 379 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: because you know this year I decided to step away 380 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: from the classroom this following school year just because I've 381 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: been so burnt out and just really wanting to, you know, 382 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: get out of that survival mode. Um. I kind of 383 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: feel like life has taken this thing is like oh 384 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: gay challenge accepted and like here like deal with a breakup. Um, 385 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: It's it's definitely not something that I planned to have 386 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: to work through this summer UM, but I've definitely have 387 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: the understanding that, like, sometimes we have to work through 388 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: things that we did not plan for um or that 389 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: we're not in our life plans. And so I really 390 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: am just leaning on my friends family for support, UM 391 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: and and it's been really helpful, I guess, to just 392 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of maintain, you know, that layer that I can 393 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of now start working from. So you have your 394 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: good days, you have your bad days. You know, it 395 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: comes and goes in waves. When you intended on stepping 396 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: back from teaching for a while, was that with the 397 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: intention of spending more time with Nate and like living 398 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: together in some place. Yeah, I think, Um, I would 399 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: say that I'm very like Nate and I are very 400 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: independent people. UM. But at that same time, you know, 401 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: I really I personally want to work towards different things. Right, 402 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: We're into different places. Um. He's in Austin, I'm in Minnesota. 403 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: Long distances difficult, but um, but yeah, I think that 404 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, having this summer off and being able to 405 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: step away from teaching, that would have happened regardless of 406 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: a relationship, regardless of you know, influencing whatever you want 407 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: to call it just because I really needed to take 408 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: a breath out of teaching. Um, But would that have 409 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: resulted in spending more time with Nate. Yeah, it's naturally, 410 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's such a weird time to Michelle 411 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: and people wonder about this, but I remember at the 412 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: end of my relationship with Lauren, people still expected I mean, 413 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: we saw it red headlines like hey, you aren't together, 414 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: or hey, you're not posting together as much, or you're 415 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: not commenting on the pictures and then so there was 416 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a moment in my relationship. I mean, and this just 417 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: feels so weird now thinking back, but it was like, hey, 418 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: we need to take a picture together so people stop asking, 419 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: or we need to uh film with video of us 420 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: laughing because we're so happy and in and behind the 421 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: scenes were like, hey, we haven't talked to each other 422 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: in two weeks, like really talk to each other how 423 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: And I can't do that? It just let me just 424 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: do that. I can't do that, you know, because I like, 425 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: if I'm in a very committed relationship with somebody, and 426 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: and this is no like shade towards anybody, Like everyone 427 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: truly does handle this the best that they can. I 428 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, to each their own. Um. No, 429 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: I just I'm not a person who I've never really 430 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: been on social media period um, and it's something that's 431 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: still kind of new to me and being able to 432 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: like show everybody what I'm doing, what I'm like updates 433 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: and things like that. Um. And so yeah, there was 434 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: never a time for me that I'm like, we need 435 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: to post this picture so that we can act like 436 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: this or take this video. Um. You know with the video, 437 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I know that there's like a lot out of headlines 438 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: or whatever about the video where I was talking about 439 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: the engagement ring and like somebody videoing me and my 440 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: friend taking it and everyone's like we should have known, 441 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: like she faked it this and that, and like I'm 442 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: up here sitting like like this is why I don't 443 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: ever respond to the internet, because that did not age 444 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: well Like that did not But damn yeah. But no, 445 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: I just I I really truly believe in reflecting how 446 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: you feel. And I think that's kind of why I've 447 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: stepped away from social media, because I've had to take 448 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: this time to kind of work on myself and find 449 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: that inner piece. Um, you know, and I'm not good 450 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: with posting if things aren't okay again, like what Ben said, 451 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: If anything it feels too personal, don't feel obligated to 452 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: ask this is so fresh for you, but do you 453 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: feel like when you got off the show, you guys 454 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: felt bliss happiness that was going to last a super 455 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: long time, or did you have doubts as soon as 456 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: you guys wrapped the show, like was this a breakup 457 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: that you kind of foresaw or was this sudden? Um? 458 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I think where I'm like struggling with this pieces. It's 459 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: like you never know how much to say, you never 460 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: know how to handle it, you never know how it's 461 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: going to be taken. Um. But I will say that 462 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: like this is not something that I foresaw and I'll 463 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: leave it there. Well. Uh, final really question around this 464 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: because there's no use of continuing to absolutely hammer in 465 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: someone else's pain on a podcast. But who is there 466 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: for you right now? Michelle? Like who stepped up? Then? 467 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: Your support system? What kind of advice are they giving 468 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: you or what are they doing to help? Um? The 469 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: reason I asked this is because I'm sure there's other 470 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: people out there to have gone through breakups and they 471 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: don't know how to get help. UM, So what have 472 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: you found to be helpful right now. Yeah, you know, 473 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: I have, like I said before, really started to lean 474 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: on my family and friends, UM, and have had you know, 475 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: two of my friends, Tianne Brooke, who we I took 476 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: off to Iceland with on a spontaneous trip to just 477 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: you know disconnect um and my mom, my dad, siblings, 478 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: and then just you know Becca, another bachelorat's reaching out 479 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: that kind of have been through situations like this, And 480 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been able to reach out to 481 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: different people depending on you know, kind of what I needed. 482 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: So like, for example, Becca has been through you know, 483 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: a relation public relationship ending, and you know Rachel, Lindsay 484 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: and and Tasia and Caitlin have all been through this 485 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: and they're able to offer certain advice. And then you know, 486 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I have some really close friends who are also able to, um, 487 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: really know who I am and really know things that 488 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, they just get me, They get what hurts, 489 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: they get my response is to to certain things, and 490 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: they're able to sit there and kind of help me 491 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: sort through things. And so it's been hard. Um, it's 492 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: been very emotional, and there's been a lot of waves 493 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: of things. But to have family and friends who go 494 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: on those waves with you and are willing to take 495 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: in those waves with you. Has been just incredible. Yeah, 496 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: well I'd be I'd be a bad, bad podcast host 497 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: if I didn't ask a question on behalf of the 498 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: fandom who are very very curious to know what happened 499 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: to the down payment for the house? Answer as you'd like, UM, 500 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: is you know that that was money that was gifted 501 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: to both of us. UM. And I think that's something 502 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: that you know, is going to be decided how that's 503 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: going to be utilized going forward. UM. For me personally, 504 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't officially decided, but I you know, 505 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of have started putting some different things in place 506 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: to give back, you know, to to build an organization 507 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: or you know, just promote the change that I've been 508 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: talking about. UM. You know, and I think that would 509 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: be something that i'd feel really good about. Yeah. It's 510 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: literally been crying on the phone with one of the producers, 511 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, like it's been emotional. I've been crying on 512 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: the phone. I don't have producers and like, but we 513 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: can I give this money? I can I create this 514 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: to give them money like to somebody else. It's just 515 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: like I just that's something I feel good about I 516 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: And that's yeah, I know that's been the million dollar question, 517 00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: no pun intended, but it's been a lot. Michelle, you 518 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: are the greatest catch of of all, Like holy crap, 519 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: holy like not only like is your beauty just absolutely 520 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: like out of this world, but like your beauty inside, 521 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: your intelligence, the way your grace, the way you handle yourself, 522 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: Like there is never been one person that I've been 523 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: less concerned about finding her happily ever after. And and 524 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't really know you personally very well, but like 525 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: you are gonna be so so good, and this is 526 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: a period of life that you'll get over and one 527 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: day you'll be like that was a moment of growth, 528 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: and I am so happy of where I ended up. 529 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: I really I that means a lot, actually, and I 530 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: know that you know, I've had like, you know, a 531 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: few exchanges and every thing. And I'll be honest. I 532 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: was talking to Becca yesterday of like I'm nervous to 533 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: get back on and start podcasting, right because I don't know, 534 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: when you're away from something, you need to take that 535 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: time and I understand that, but coming back also like 536 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: there's anxiety around it, and I'm such a positive person 537 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: or like a happy, bubbly person typically and right now 538 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not always that, and I know that's okay, but 539 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to come on and be like, 540 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk about Becca's engagement, and 541 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Actley and your baby and 542 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: then everything that's going on your life, and then I'm 543 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: like I'm over here and I'm like that there's just 544 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: like this like negative you know, you know, like that 545 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: that that Charlie Brown Halloween episode, like I got a 546 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: candy bar, I got a sector, I got a rock, 547 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: but I got I got this, I got a rock, 548 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: like the show. I'm like, day that's gonna really I 549 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: truly feel like this moment, like even though you feel 550 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: so low and you don't necess rearely know where to 551 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: turn or like what your life's gonna look like, I 552 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: honestly think this is going to be the catalyst for 553 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: like one of the most beautiful, as actually just said, 554 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: like times of growth in your life and everything. I mean, 555 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and I can say this from experience because you know, 556 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: we've all been through breakups and then you can test 557 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: we've been through public breakups, but like everything just preps 558 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: you for what's to come. And I think with you, 559 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: you have such a beautiful soul that it's only going 560 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: to benefit you in the long run. Yeah, And when 561 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: you look back on these moments of darkness, when it 562 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: didn't end up with the you didn't end up with 563 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: the person that you so imagine yourself ending up with, 564 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: and it's weirdly nostalgic. Like when you get past it 565 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: and you end up finding the person that you're with, 566 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: you look back at those moments and you're like, man, 567 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: I suffered so much heartbreak, but it really did get 568 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: me to this. It's such a weird thing. It's hard 569 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: to describe. It's like one of those things where it's 570 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: like I need to take my heart and soul out 571 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: and put it into somebody else. And then they're like, 572 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: oh this feeling, Yeah, I know this feeling. It's so weird. 573 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: But that's exactly. And I think, you know, I like 574 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: breakups suck, breakups are awful. I don't know, I just 575 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: they they hurt, right, And I think what's so difficult 576 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: is that it sometimes feels like it's like not in 577 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: your control, right, Like you wake up and you sometimes 578 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: days you just feel like Okay, I just have to 579 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: have a time passed like with time, give it time, 580 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: but like you can't always like speed up that time, right, 581 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: you can't always like speed up healing. You can put 582 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: in the work, but you can't always speed it up. Um. 583 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: But it is like the situation where I'm like, this 584 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: is not how the story ends for me. This is 585 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: not you know, like where I'm at right now emotionally, mentally, 586 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: like how my heart feels like, this is not how 587 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: the story ends. And I deserve to, you know, really 588 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: make it to that point where I get those things 589 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: and so yeah, but it is hard to remember. I 590 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: may be calling you guys for a reminder here, and 591 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: it's like this is just a building block, Like every 592 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: relationship that doesn't work out is a building block to 593 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: help you learn what you want, what you don't want 594 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: in your next relationship. Yeah. Absolutely, It's like every morning 595 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: look at yourself in the mirror and be like, my 596 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: family is happy, healthy and safe, and I am stunning, 597 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: as as my morning hair that I sleep with with 598 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: wet hair didn't wash, my face is like tinked. Everywhere 599 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: looks stunning. Right now, I was actually not gonna make up. 600 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like You've gone through the ringer 601 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: in this past month and you've still looked like a ten. 602 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: You're studying your glowing. I'm like, what is your secret? 603 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Even have a makeup on right now? This is just 604 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: your faces? My god, isn't it? Isn't it so annoying? Actually? 605 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: This is no, because no, you should have called me. 606 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: You should have called me, like, what ever when this 607 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: first went done? Nah, it was bad. It's bad. I'm 608 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: sure I have a picture somewhere I Michelle. If as 609 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: we close up here, because we do have a very 610 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: special episode of Bachelor Happy Hour to get to, uh, well, 611 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna be breaking down a lot of the bachelorrette. 612 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about that. You guys are 613 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: hosting it, so you know, Uh, here's a good story 614 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: for you to close out on, Michelle. I don't know 615 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: if I make you feel any better or worse. I 616 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: feel like this is one of those times when your 617 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: dad tells you a story and it's like symbolic. Ye. Maybe, Um, 618 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: I agree with everything Becca and Ashley have said, and 619 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure many people in your life have told you 620 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: all of those things and they're all true, and so 621 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: you just gotta believe him at some point. Maybe not now. Um, 622 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: you could still hurt for a bit, but at some 623 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: point you're just gonna have to believe that these people 624 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: are not lying to you. You're gorgeous, You're a catch, 625 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: you are whatever is in the future is all going 626 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: to make sense. We just talked about it with Rebecca. 627 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: But um, really funny story I've never shared publicly, and 628 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: I'll probably get fired for it. That's okay, Um, I'm 629 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: not getting fired. I feel honored to be the reason 630 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: I am going through a breakup. Um. We announced it 631 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: publicly on a Tuesday. I had already been under contracts 632 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: and we had already scheduled our very first almost famous 633 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: episode on that Thursday. Um, so we announced it Tuesday 634 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: because it just needed to happen, like it was time. 635 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: We had it was we we needed to tell people. 636 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: And so it comes out and I'm broke, like I'm 637 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sad, I'm a mess, And I call my 638 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: heart and I say, hey, can we not record this week? 639 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm not in the place, and they say, no, this 640 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: is perfect, It's time. Everybody's listen. And so on a Thursday, 641 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I had to get on a podcast and say a 642 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that I didn't even know what I 643 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: was saying because I didn't know how I felt. Uh. 644 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: And then over time things get better and you can 645 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: begin to move forward, and I wish the best for you, 646 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're back, and I'm glad we're doing 647 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: this together. This has been really fun. Hey, I do 648 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: have to ask you this because our listeners need a 649 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: little teaser um going into Bachelor Happy Hour in a 650 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: minute thirty seconds, what are both your thoughts on this 651 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: coming season of The Bachelorette as we move forward into 652 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: part two over on Bachelor Happy Hour? Oh, Michelle, you 653 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: want to start? No, you start? Um? Okay, I will 654 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: try to be concise. I am excited and intrigued because 655 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: this is something we've never seen before throughout an entire season, 656 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: having two leads. I'm skeptical because I, in no way, 657 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: shape or form want these two women who are now 658 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the leads and in this huge pressure situation to be 659 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: pitted against one another. And all I'm gonna say is, 660 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: if they're going to have two women leads at some point, 661 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: we better be seeing two mal leads in one season. 662 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: We did, so, just to let you know, I think Ashley. 663 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: Ashley and I just discovered this yesterday that there has 664 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: been two bachelors on a season before. We didn't know this. 665 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: There has way back, way back. Wait, so a duel. 666 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: So two guys the entire season season? Who was it? 667 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't even remember their names are really on in 668 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: the two thousands archives? Know No, is it Brian or 669 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: is it Byron? Byron and a guy we don't know. Okay, 670 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: we need to see a current. I don't disagree with you. 671 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying we said the same thing yesterday and 672 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: they were like, no, they have so alright, Yeah, Michelle, 673 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: we were so confused because when Caitlin and Britt happened, 674 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: nobody brought this up either. We gotta I need the archives, 675 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: I need the lost footage. I need to see this 676 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: like did and they showed both men equally or did 677 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: one just kind of fall by the wayside? One guy 678 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: knocked off here? So it was the same like the 679 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: whole Caitlin situation, right, but not at the same time 680 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: where two leads have gone through the higher process. Here 681 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: we go. We got the recap in September two, Velvic 682 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: and Jay over by a forty year old real estate 683 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: agent from New Jersey were selected as candidates for the 684 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Bachelor for season six, but their candidates like were they 685 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: both together? I think so night one? We need a 686 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: full season. Yeah, I need to go back and watch that. 687 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: And I also want to know, like what are you 688 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: all up to? And why don't we know who you are? 689 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: Like why why we first say oh, yeah, it's Byron 690 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: and unknown guy? You guys, we're gonna now fight as 691 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: to who's going to get these two unknown guys on 692 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: our podcast one and we'll get one. Wait, we want 693 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: the guy who went home night one, just to just 694 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: to give him some some good love. He's like, nobody's 695 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: talked to me in twenty years. I don't know what, Michelle, 696 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? I'm I'm excited, um, just for 697 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: both of them, because they both seem like they're going 698 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: to handle themselves in a very like a sea way, right. 699 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: I think that they went into it with a really 700 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: solid friendship, and I think that's something that they seem 701 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: like they would continue to work on and like work 702 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: past issues as it goes on. Um, I feel like 703 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: it's going to get a little intense, though, I mean, 704 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of naive to not think that, you know, 705 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: there's not going to be drama with everything, but yeah, 706 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm excited for them both. Um, I'm super interested in 707 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: watching this is Yeah, we're gonna have a lot to 708 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: talk talk about. Is what I feel like throughout this 709 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: whole season. Well I agree. Alright, guys, well it's time 710 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: for us to wrap up and head over to your territory, 711 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: so please sign out with us until next time. I've 712 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: been Ashley, I've been Becca. I can't We're still doing this. 713 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: Four years later, five years later, Oh my god, bye bye. 714 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 715 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.