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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast trust sources with knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the situation. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan hands As I

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Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and Gregg Rosenthal. What's up boys, Happy Friday?

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Speaker 1: You guys recovering from the downfall of the Eagles offense.

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Speaker 1: They know, Mark, you know it's got to be tough,

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Speaker 1: especially for you. Well, you know, I've got a great

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Speaker 1: pr guy in Dan hanss that pulls one nugget out

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Speaker 1: as the game starting, telling his you know, seven thousand

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Speaker 1: followers on Twitter that sorry saying that I said they

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Speaker 1: dropped fifty five points. I said it. I felt that way.

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Speaker 1: I was wrong, and Deshan Jackson Nolan now only has

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Speaker 1: thirteen games left to break three hundred yards multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Just want to point that out. And also I don't

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Speaker 1: want to I don't want to pile on, but the

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Speaker 1: whole theory about Chip Kelly riding on a spaceship while

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Speaker 1: everyone else is on horses, that might also be a

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Speaker 1: premature statement by Mark. You know, I think with this

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Speaker 1: team that we're gonna we're gonna see saw like overly

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Speaker 1: I don't. Actually, I'm not. I'm not. I didn't say

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Speaker 1: that too to bury you. Mark. I I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting you made that prediction, and I didn't think

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Speaker 1: they were gonna lay an egg like they did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I know West was thinking the Chiefs defense really had

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Speaker 1: But I to me, that was the biggest takeaway of

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, which was, you know, we all thought what

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Speaker 1: happened to the Revolution? What what happened to the Eagles?

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Speaker 1: I thought that it was about the Chiefs defense myself,

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Speaker 1: but I know from the collective wisdom of all the

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Speaker 1: sports writers on Twitter did in fact, it's because the

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Speaker 1: NFL has already figured Chip Kelly out after the first

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Speaker 1: half of the Chiefs game, and this all offense of

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Speaker 1: the Eagles will do nothing the rest of the year

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Speaker 1: because Chip Kelly needs to go back to New Hampshire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm joking with Mark. I think we do get

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Speaker 1: a little carried weight. I I would take that that

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Speaker 1: bet about Deshaun Jackson breaking three yards a couple of

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Speaker 1: bad game, I mean, look, they were still in that game,

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Speaker 1: back to something we talked about on Wednesday. Can Michael

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Speaker 1: that's also what I was thinking, was, you know, uh

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid went home to Philadelphia and he got his

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Speaker 1: big win, and he has his quarterback that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: And Chip Kelly now he tied himself to Michael Vick.

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Speaker 1: Vick did not look good yesterday at all. And I

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Speaker 1: he's always a guy that's gonna bring you down in

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Speaker 1: Vic brought down Andy Reid. Now Vick is gonna bring

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Speaker 1: down Chip Kelly hold number one. I I just I

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Speaker 1: among maybe five or six quarterbacks that I think would

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Speaker 1: really really position themselves well in that offense. But Vick

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Speaker 1: of some miss targets. He was pretty good against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was possibly the best passing game I've

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna give you this game. But that's what

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Speaker 1: I think this is a scheme team and VIC didn't

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Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of secondaries like the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: are there, like the Chiefs. They miss macwin. They do,

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Speaker 1: your guys opinion is have they gotten over the hump? Here?

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Speaker 1: Don Avery got most of his yards after the catch.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't because Alex Smith was challenging them down the field.

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Speaker 1: It's not just in Cleveland's last front office would have

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Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be. He's one of those low ceiling

429
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: type of guys. I think, you know, it's a bad combination.

430
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Speaker 1: He's not accurate, really, he's very streaky with his accuracy,

431
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a big arm, So that's that's

432
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Speaker 1: a tough one to punch to overcome. I think there

433
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: are a fun team to watch in the sense that

434
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: Jay Gruden can do a lot of different things, but

435
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Speaker 1: I don't think he has the quarterback for it. I

436
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: think when you don't have easy gas for your arm strength,

437
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: your accuracy suffers down the field because you're pushing the ball,

438
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 1: and I think that's his problem. I think, you know,

439
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: we've heard a comparison to Matt Ryan, who I believe

440
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: is much more accurate than than Andy Dalton, and Matt

441
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: Ryan's arm has gotten stronger the last couple of years.

442
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: I still look at the team and I understand that

443
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of slow baking these new parts into

444
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: the offense. But it feels like when Dalton to a J.

445
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: Green is not two or three times a home run

446
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: proposition for the Bengals, that they run out of ideas.

447
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: And I like Jay Gruden too, but more in theory

448
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: than what I've seen in big moments, because it's not

449
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: just the two playoff games where they completely completely went

450
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: to sleep. It's just for stretches of the season. The

451
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Speaker 1: Bengals don't seem to have something about their offense that

452
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: guarantees that the talent is going to play up to

453
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: its potential week to week. Eddie Lacy is out, is

454
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Speaker 1: officially questionable for this game, but he didn't practice all week,

455
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Speaker 1: so we'll see James Starks again. I thought Starks ran

456
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Speaker 1: really well. That could be something where they wanted it

457
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Speaker 1: to be a one to punch with Lacey and uh Harris,

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Speaker 1: But now I think it's going to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: Lacy and Starks could could split the work. And we

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Speaker 1: won't get bogged down with giving you all our different

461
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Speaker 1: picks for these games. But if you go to the

462
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Speaker 1: Around the League blog, we have all our picks for

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Speaker 1: the week, as we do every week. Let's move on,

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Speaker 1: Greg the Atlanta Falcons. Another good game. I like this one.

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Speaker 1: May you know it's a better week. I thought that's

466
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Speaker 1: a good week Atlanta Falcons. They go to Miami the

467
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Speaker 1: upstart Dolphins. Brent Grimes is revenge. I mean Grimes. That

468
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: will put the fans in the seats. Yeah, Brent Grimes

469
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: and Rashad Jones might be the most fun cornerback safety

470
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Speaker 1: combo in the league that I've watched so far far

471
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Speaker 1: this year because they're You're not the biggest guys in

472
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Speaker 1: the world, but they are both just flying around. Grimes

473
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: is so good at closing on plays and recognizing. Joe

474
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: Ones is like a younger Paula Malloy. Maybe not that level,

475
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: but it just that he can do so many things.

476
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Jared Oddricks playing really well, Randy Starks is playing really well.

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Speaker 1: You have Cameron Wake. I think it's a really good defense,

478
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Speaker 1: and you're catching the Falcons at the perfect time. He

479
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: just lost Coy Bierman and John Weatherspoon. You know. Weatherspoon's

480
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: probably their best defensive player. Uh, and I think Miami's

481
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: catching him at the perfect time. Jopio bart two, that's

482
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Speaker 1: the name of the guy replace Sean Weatherspoon, and he

483
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: played really well last week. Um, so we'll see. I

484
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: think I think you're right that they are facing the

485
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: Falcons at the right time, and they match up well

486
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Speaker 1: as far as their ferocious pass rush going against an

487
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: offensive line that can't protect Matt Ryan. Um, I think

488
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: the matchup I want to watch is Julio Jones. Apparently

489
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: our our buddy Evans Silvett Rhodo Wild tells us Nolan

490
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: Carroll will probably play that side of the field, not

491
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Speaker 1: Brent Grimes, so that will be something for the Falcons

492
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Speaker 1: to exploit. He did a good job Reggie Wayne last week.

493
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: For Reggie Wayne is no no quarterback has been knocked

494
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: down and Tannehill has been roughed up early nine sacks

495
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: on him. Only Weedon has been sacked more times. This

496
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: is a game where he's probably not going to see

497
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Speaker 1: the pressure he saw in the first two and Lanta

498
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: obviously struggling to rush the passer. That for me suggests

499
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: that maybe Mike Wallace, who had a nice game last time,

500
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: has a good chance here to make some do some

501
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: damage on Atlanta. Big game for Ryan Tannele, This would

502
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: be a huge win for Miami, well a big loss

503
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Speaker 1: for Atlanta. And I really think, you know, Greg, you

504
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: could barely contain yourself with your excitement for Tannehill on Monday.

505
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: But let's let's face it here. If he has a

506
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Speaker 1: big game and everything is set up for it to happen,

507
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: and they beat a Falcons team and they moved to three.

508
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: And oh, if you want to put Ryan's tnnele in

509
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: that group of up and coming qbs, you you basically

510
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: have a little ammunition to start that bandwagon. I can

511
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: feel the buzz in the room. It's buzzing the Tannehill

512
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: I've been talking about a year. It's happening. Um, Greg's

513
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: up out of his seat again. That's always this isn't

514
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna work out well for you. Um, all right, let's

515
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Speaker 1: move on. Chicago Bears. Oh Man, speaking of Greg, not

516
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: to take the wind out of your sales, but Chicago Bears.

517
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: They are heading to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers, and

518
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Greg's MVP pick that Roethlisberger. This this is obviously we

519
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: talked about it on Wednesday with touch touch on this game.

520
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: But you can't you can't emphasize it enough that the Steelers,

521
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, they need this game. Oh and three, they're finished.

522
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Speaker 1: I don't I just don't imagine that a Tomlin Big

523
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Speaker 1: Ben team ever starts owing three. But I guess everyone

524
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: has bad seasons, so I understand why a lot of

525
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Speaker 1: people would pick the Bears. But you've got to think

526
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Speaker 1: if the Steelers have anything in the tank here, they're

527
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna defend their home field on Sunday. I look at

528
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: the I look at Chicago, and I see just a

529
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: much more talented football team right now. You know, this

530
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: is a game that I think Jake Cutler under Lovey

531
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: Smith goes in and loses in past seasons. I am

532
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: if he's on the Tannehill bandwagon. I'm on that more

533
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: trustman bandwagon. And I see Chicago rolling in and taking

534
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: care of business. I think that they, you know, with

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00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: each week, Cutler looks a little bit more comfortable in

536
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: that offense. Uh you know Brandon Marshall. Was he he

537
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: injured during practice or something like that. I believe, yeah,

538
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: he should. They expect him to play. They're they're healthy enough.

539
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: But that defense too, I mean, that's an opportunity to

540
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: defense in Pittsburgh. Really, what have they shown us that says, hey,

541
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: we're about to move the ball score some points. This

542
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: hurts me to say my most reviled NFL player over

543
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: the past half decade is Jay Cutler. I don't like

544
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: anything about him. What about his wife? I don't even

545
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: know who she is. I know she's supposed to be

546
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: some TV star. I don't watch any of I know

547
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: she's supposed to, yeah whatever seeth in some modern day

548
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: soap opera, and you know, I don't know who she is.

549
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Wesley knows this when you know when we first met

550
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: years and years ago. Tannehill is my new kind of

551
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: quarter culor was my original Tannehill. I've been driving that

552
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: bandwagon and it is nice to see him playing well

553
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: in a system that I it's like that Kristen Cavalery

554
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: exists only in theory to us, the exact kind of

555
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: girl that would end up with Jay Cutler, that's all.

556
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: That's actually exactly accurate. So anyway, this this is painful,

557
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: but I believe right now Jake Cutler is one of

558
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the ten best quarterbacks in the NFL. I love his footwork.

559
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Trustman has worked miracles with him. He actually has fundamentals

560
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: and mechanics now, and he's throwing some of the prettiest

561
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: passes I've seen all year. He's always thrown pretty passes,

562
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: so now he's not throwing in those wacky, you know

563
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: plays where he's trying to improvise and well, he had

564
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: a fumble six last week and I didn't even think

565
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: it was really his fault. Like these things happen, you know,

566
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: But in the past I would have rolled my eyes

567
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: and said, there goes Cutler. We're also seeing him being

568
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: protected for the first time ever in Chicago, and he's

569
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: getting the ball out of his hands. It's a big

570
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: part of it. A lot of what Trustman is doing

571
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: is working perfectly. Devin Hester, it was maybe the biggest

572
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: factor in that game last week. If you kickoff returns,

573
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: that was your game. I'm just say, and I mean that.

574
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: He was probably the key to that game because the

575
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: field position them taking him off offense. I don't know

576
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: if he can keep that going, but it was a

577
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: huge day. He was electric and then you know, it

578
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: was like the answer to Cordarrel opening the game with

579
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: a kickoff return touchdown. Okay, so let's let's move on

580
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: to our defend your hero segment. K Rich. Finally, Glass,

581
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: we do. I think we're gonna need some type of

582
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: theme for this eventually. I don't defend your here. It's

583
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: almost like maybe something medieval times esque, like a night

584
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: coming in to defend his last Was that a term

585
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: that was used? Yes, I know, what do you think

586
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: I think it's coming and I think you guys will

587
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: be very pleased. She's still mad. She's still mad. We

588
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: haven't given her the drops, but he's mad. No one's commented.

589
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you've done your hair differently today. I

590
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: like it. It's a little sleeker. Well, look at that

591
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: a guy her hair and Merry Christmas. I saw your

592
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: shirt too. Oh thank you. I'm more upset about my

593
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Eagles losing, but we can talk about Oh that makes sense.

594
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: K Rich is a chameleon when it comes to the hairstyles.

595
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a different one almost every day

596
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: of the week. Oh no, you're trying to be like

597
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were going to talk about it,

598
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: but since it came up, you have kind of an

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00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Alicia Key look going today. I like it. Funny, my

600
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: dad says the same man. All right, there's a lot

601
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: of good information there. Alright, defend your hero. So we'll

602
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: work on the music. We'll start with I think did

603
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: we all have hero picks this week? No? I do

604
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: not have one. Sorry, was yeah, but you can just

605
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: hang out if you want a wasted mind. Mark Cecil

606
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: also don't have one for the season. I think you're

607
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: the only one. How about I let West defend why

608
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I picked the Cults as my hero pick. Why why

609
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: don't you defend that? Because I don't remember why I

610
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: picked them, but I do. I do. Uh. I like

611
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: the addition of Trent richardson What's happened after I talked

612
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: about that we did okay? I I think that Andrew

613
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: Luck needs to have one of those games where it's like, whoa,

614
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: he just did what That's what's going to happen on Sunday? Alright,

615
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: what about your other hero pick? Mark? You have the uh,

616
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: you have the Rams taken down the Cowboys? Yeah, I

617
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: think that. To me, I have the Cowboys winning the

618
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: NFC East, but I also think they're gonna win it

619
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: at about eight and eight, and this is a classic

620
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys loss where they're at home. Let's take care of

621
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: business against a team that frankly should not be any

622
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: better than we are. But I think actually is I uh,

623
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: it just went with my gut. St Louis is going

624
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: to go two and one to start the season. I

625
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: feel like that would be a really big win. I

626
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys lose games at home all the time,

627
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: but that seems like it would be a nice win

628
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: for the Rams to go on the road and take

629
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: care of business against a team that's probably better than

630
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: them or close to better than them, that would be

631
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: a big win. I don't see it happening, but twee three,

632
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It would be the first win for

633
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: any team in the NFC East out of the division

634
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys could win this game. I mean, the

635
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: NFC East is oh and five and uh if the

636
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: East more like NFC least the Rams. It's been pretty

637
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: easy to move the ball on them. If you haven't noticed, Um,

638
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the Falcons without Rowdy White basically and without Stephen Jackson

639
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: just kind of blew them out. You know, I don't

640
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals did too, I mean in terms of

641
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: moving the ball. A lot of heat for that defense

642
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: over the off season, and I I don't know, after

643
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys last week now after seeing the Chief's

644
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: offense again, maybe I overrated how good the Cowboy defensive line.

645
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: But I killed Monty Kiffin uh in hiring him a

646
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, and I think their defense looks pretty good,

647
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: especially up front. One thing, at Wes, you are right,

648
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: like the cornerbacks for the Rams missed a ton of

649
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: tackles last week. That's gonna have to change because Dez Bryant,

650
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I think, maybe the best receiver in football right now. Greg,

651
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: you you sat out the hero picks last week. It

652
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: worked out. You went thirteen and three. Can't can't complain there,

653
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: You're back in this week. You have the Chargers, who

654
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I will never take, but you have the Charge just

655
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: taking down the Titans. Well, I don't have many rules,

656
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: but when you can get a hero pick potential going

657
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: up against Jake Locker and Mike mun Chack, you gotta

658
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: take it. I mean, the San Diego Chargers have played

659
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: really well two straight weeks. I mean not great, but

660
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is looking like a qual any quarterback. Again.

661
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for the better quarterback in the game.

662
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Who what passing game I think is better? And I

663
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: think the Chargers defense hasn't been great, but they've been okay.

664
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: They've played seven quarters of football. They were very close

665
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: to being too, and oh with two pretty solid winds Tennessee.

666
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: Locker to me is a problem for them right now.

667
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: And you don't have a great running game. There's not

668
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: a lot to like about that offense. I feel like

669
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: this was a coin flip game. And we all flipped

670
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: tails and you just happened to get hit. I agree.

671
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: There were a lot of games like that this week.

672
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Somehow we all picked, we all picked the egos, we

673
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: all picked the Jets, which is insane. All right, we'll

674
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: move on to my hero pick, which I was actually

675
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: pretty happy about this one. I got the Ravens at

676
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: home against the Texans. I think they're gonna take care

677
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: of business at home on Ed Reid's homecoming, in which

678
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: you'll probably wearing a track suit. Um. I just feel

679
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: good about this one. I don't think the tech the

680
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Texans are too and oh but I don't think they're

681
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: necessarily playing that well. And you know, the Ravens have

682
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks themselves. But you know, I

683
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: just see this as a game where they'll they'll hold

684
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: serve no Ray Rice and this game most likely they

685
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: calling him a game time decision. He didn't practice all week.

686
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: They'll give him a shot, but generally you don't play

687
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: if you don't practice. I trust in Bernard and Bernard Pierce.

688
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: We trust. As my running back rankings shows this offseason,

689
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore has done a nice job getting Marlon

690
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Brown into the program. The last couple of weeks, he's

691
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: got two touchdowns in two games. But listen, I mean

692
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: it's like with every new week they seem to leave

693
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: and lose a new key individual. And I watched that

694
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Ravens Brown's game. It was an ugly game and really, honestly,

695
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore struggled to kind of figure out what it is

696
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: they are on offense. I still don't think they know.

697
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I think it's the parts prevent them from knowing. And uh,

698
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, Houston actually is much improved on offense after

699
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: the emergence of DeAndre Hopkins. I think they can score

700
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: some points. I don't like Baltimore in this football game.

701
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: It's another coin flip game. Though. I like, if I

702
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: were you, i'd be I'd be enjoying that hero pick potential.

703
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Um All right, now, let's

704
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: go through the offense. These are the games that we

705
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: did not profile as as the top games of the week.

706
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: They weren't involved with any Hero picks. You know, they're

707
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: just games, But it doesn't mean they're not fun to

708
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: watch or something that doesn't deserve any time. So we're

709
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: gonna give it right now, each of us will give

710
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts on the game, and Uh, then

711
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: we'll keep moving the New York Giants. They're going to Carolina, Greg,

712
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I want you to tell us a little bit about that.

713
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not too much into the historical numbers,

714
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: but there hasn't been an own three team to make

715
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, since these are two teams with really high aspirations.

716
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I picked the Giants because the Panthers secondary going into

717
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the season was I thought maybe the worst in the NFL,

718
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: certainly among them, and since then, they've lost a couple

719
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: of players, everyone's injured, and I just Trusteeli Manning and

720
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: that passing game so much more than Cam Newton. I

721
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: can just see them scoring thirty points and I don't

722
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: know if the Panthers are equipped to keep up with

723
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: them right now. I think Ron River is the first

724
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: guy getting fired this year. Yeah, I think the loser

725
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: of this game goes into tailspin mode for the rest

726
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: this season. Okay, let's move on to Cleveland at Minnesota. Uh,

727
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: it's another game where we haven't owned two team that

728
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: basically needs to stay alive. Minnesota not looking too how either,

729
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: Mark Cessler, do you want to tell us about this?

730
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't like the match up here on any level

731
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: of what it remains of Cleveland's offense against what I

732
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: think is a pretty good Vikings defense at home. That

733
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that matchup doesn't work for me. And then you've got

734
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, who with a hundred and ninety three yards

735
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: and two games, has gone into a mode this week

736
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: where he said he was soul searching, he's angry, he

737
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: went out into the desert. Yeah, you know, and this

738
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: is a classic Cleveland Brown's football game where Adrian Peterson's

739
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: gonna get real healthy. Uh. They've got a very good

740
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: run defense Cleveland. I don't want to overlook that. But

741
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson at home in a must win game for

742
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: a team that went to the playoffs last year and

743
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: feels disrespected, it doesn't add up. I have one real

744
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: quick thing to say, we have killed Christian Ponder since

745
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: the beginning the preseason. I thought he played well last week, uh,

746
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: and better than his number showed, So I'll just want

747
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: to give him a little bit of credit. And he

748
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: was better, but still made a key mistake to lose

749
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the game, and he's not getting a lot of help.

750
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings does not look like a good signing. He

751
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: had a ball in the open field at one point

752
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: last year and I don't know if he's injured or something,

753
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: but he looked like he was in slow month. Lessie

754
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: Fraser said, we will be getting cour Darrel Patterson more

755
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: playing time. It was a mistake and he kind of

756
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: blamed it on the other coaches and said this is

757
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: something we will be doing. And one last thing about

758
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: that game, Trent Richardson was traded to the Colts UH

759
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: this past week, so he's not on the Browns roster alright.

760
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: Moving on, Tampa Bay goes to New England. Oh man,

761
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what the Patriots. This is why I hate

762
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's so many reasons why I don't like

763
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but everything always goes the Patriots way. They're

764
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: playing terrible. They got two rookie quarterbacks against bad teams.

765
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: Now they have Tampa Bay, a team just in fire

766
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: on fire from within. They're gonna come in. It's going

767
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: to be an absolute disaster. And the path. Speaking of

768
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: getting healthy, I think the Pat's offense will make some

769
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: plays that will be excited that Gront comes back. Everything

770
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: is so great for the Patriots. Well, hold on, I

771
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: mean Tampa's defense has been very solid. I think Patriots

772
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: have played arguably three straight pretty good defenses. If we're

773
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: thinking the Bill's defense looks pretty good, I'm Bill's defense

774
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: looks much better. Tampas no than they're than they're own

775
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: from last year. Who picked the Buccaneers because I was

776
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: surprised multiple people. Patrick, I picked Tampa Bay And really,

777
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: why don't you trust the paths here? Again, I'm gonna listen,

778
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to overbake this. It was a feeling.

779
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just think that I think that New

780
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: England has struggled, struggled in general to you know, kind

781
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: of that young group has not fully there. I really

782
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: like what I saw from Tampa's defense. I did go

783
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: back and rewatch that game, and their young linebackers sensational.

784
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: They got Darell Reevas against the Patriots. A Teamy hates

785
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I like it. It's so weird to see in Football

786
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Outsiders rankings this week the Patriots had the best offense

787
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: and the fourth best defense. It's way too early for

788
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: these to matter, but it's just crazy and Revis he

789
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: hates the Patriots, but he also hates the Bucks. So

790
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: defense is all right. West you want to tell us

791
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: a little bit about Cardinals going to the Superdome to

792
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: play the same Well, you have the Cardinals coming in

793
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: to face this defense that I've been telling you guys,

794
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: it's just ferocious the sense. Oh wait, wait what? No?

795
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I I think the Saints have a pretty good matchup here.

796
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald last week was basically playing on one leg.

797
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: He was dragging his other leg behind him before he

798
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: sat out most of the second half. And hamstrings just

799
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: don't get better in a week when you're dragging the leg.

800
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: So Arizona is gonna be without its best offensive player.

801
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: And I believe Mendenhall is going to play, but hasn't

802
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: practiced this week, so that's an issue there too. I

803
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: just the Saints just have too much firepower. And Saint's

804
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: got some other good news this week. It looks like

805
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: mark Ingram is not going to play. Wow, I mean

806
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: they don't shovel dirt on that man. That might have

807
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: been a mistake on draft day, Yeah, I mean it

808
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: might have been a mistake to keep force fedium over

809
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Pierre Thomas and Darren Sprowls. I think that's gonna help

810
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: you don't draft running backs in the first round, unless

811
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: especially from Greg Detroit lines. They're going to Washington, another

812
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: team in desperate need of win. The Redskins are owing too.

813
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: I was surprised not more people picked Detroit. You know,

814
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not into uh gambling, but we

815
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: do make picks here, and if there's one pick I

816
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: feel really good about this week, it is the Detroit

817
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: Lions going on the road because I think that defensive

818
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: line is great. We know about that, and I think

819
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the offense is better. Reggie Bush returned to practice on Friday.

820
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. We're talking about guys getting the ball out

821
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: of his hands quickly. He's been doing that. I think

822
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: their offense looks a little better this year, and just

823
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Washington's defense just terrible and r G three is not

824
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: quite ready. I just I like how this sets up

825
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: once again. The lines are the better team, just as

826
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: they were last week. Lot that's true, but Mike Shanahan

827
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: wasn't coaching the Cardinals. I don't know alright, this next game.

828
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we need to spend too much time

829
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: on it. But Mark, if you want to tell us

830
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Jaguars going to Seattle, showdown.

831
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: This reminds me of a game from two thousand ten

832
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: when uh Eric Manginie brought a Cleveland team. Well, they

833
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: hosted a New England Patriots team that had Peyton Hillis

834
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: and Colt McCoy. And there's no reason and nothing about

835
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland that suggested they should win that game, and they

836
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: body rocked New England and it was and they went

837
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: right back to their losing ways after New England didn't

838
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: win a game all the rest of the season. And

839
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: it was the fact that that entire coaching staff knew

840
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots so well offensive defensive assistance that might have

841
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: played into it. Gus Bradley knows this Seattle defense. Despite

842
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: everything I just said, this is not going to go

843
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: well for jackson No, no, no, Brandley knows his own offense.

844
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: You do not have anything resembling a quarterback on that

845
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: Jacksonville team. That's another team that they're gonna They're gonna

846
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: buy for that number one pick. They're not going to

847
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: trade out of that position. If they stand there at

848
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: the saying that Jacksonville will get body rocked. No, yes,

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Speaker 1: I will say that that's I'm saying. This is not

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Speaker 1: this is what in best case scenario, it's that two

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Speaker 1: thousand ten game that won't happen extreme body rocking. Alright, Um,

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Speaker 1: this game, actually, Mark, you were more excited about this

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Speaker 1: game downstairs than anybody else. Buffalo going to the Metal

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Speaker 1: ends to face the Jets. Um, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a close game. I think I

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Speaker 1: think we're talking maybe six thirteam one of those. Yeah. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm very care as a Jets fan, I'm very curious

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Speaker 1: to see, Um, how Geno Smith bounces back from a

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Speaker 1: terrible fourth quarter in New England last week right through

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Speaker 1: three picks and basically looked like the Geno Smith of

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Speaker 1: Week three of the preseason. See how he bounces back

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Speaker 1: from that. On the other side, you have the other

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Speaker 1: rookie E J. Manuel, who is on top of the world.

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Speaker 1: Old right now, I see a close game, I mean

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Speaker 1: at home, I don't think. I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: Bills are ready to win games on the road. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Jets. But we all picked the Jets.

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Speaker 1: That's weird. That strikes me as strange. Two defenses that

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Speaker 1: are much better than people think in two quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: are getting way too much credit for how they've played.

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Speaker 1: E J. Manuel has been composed. There's nothing else about

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Speaker 1: him that that I've been impressed with. I just think

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Speaker 1: he's getting way too much credit. I've been impressed with

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Speaker 1: his coaching staff both sides. What an upgrade it's been

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Speaker 1: for the Bills because they're very creative putting Manual into

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Speaker 1: good positions, and on defense they're much better too. I

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Speaker 1: agree it's going to be a defensive game. Quentin Coples

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Speaker 1: is back for the Jets. I think could could help them.

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Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be like a defensive touchdown return, touchdown

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Speaker 1: snack game, you know, real quick on the Jets, because

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Speaker 1: I agree that Buffalo has done a really nice job

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Speaker 1: giving Manual on offense that he can run. It's simplified

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Speaker 1: from what we'll probably see as he grows down the

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Speaker 1: stretch of the season. But Marty morning Weag has done

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Speaker 1: the opposite. I think with Gino Smith right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate, he got some real complex play calls and

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Speaker 1: some reads that I just think Gino Smith they need

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Speaker 1: to pare this thing down and let him kind of

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Speaker 1: adjust to his role, and they haven't done that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they've done a good job. There have been

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Speaker 1: some low percentage passes that they've asked him to throw,

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Speaker 1: which he's not ready to do, and it certainly doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the personnel either. West, Why don't you close it out?

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Speaker 1: The schedule for week three? Another kind of rough game,

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Speaker 1: Oakland going to Denver. This is the Emperor has no

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Speaker 1: close game for the Raiders. You've been getting away with

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Speaker 1: playing played the Jacksonville Jaguarson, got way too much credit

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Speaker 1: for it. Now you're going in to play the Broncos

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be ugly. But does the Emperor

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Speaker 1: have softball pants? Pants? Will eat his softball pants? You know,

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Speaker 1: all bets are off. Is somehow the Raiders get come

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Speaker 1: out of this game with a wound. You're nervous if

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Speaker 1: that happened. If the Raiders come out of this game

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Speaker 1: with when softball pants good directly into the marinade, as

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Speaker 1: they should. Let's face it, all right. So that that

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Speaker 1: ends our podcast for today and for the week. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night. Uh. You know, we talked

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Speaker 1: about the energy and I thought the energy was really

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Speaker 1: good on Wednesday, a little lacking the previous Sunday show.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that we you know, maybe we just

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Speaker 1: amp it up. Do a couple of five hour energy shots,

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Speaker 1: get pumped up and come in on fire Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they shot in the Shawn McCoy's ankle last night,

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Speaker 1: I'll be on that Sunday. We'll be literally bouncing off

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Speaker 1: the walls. Um okay. So until then, the Mailman, the Sizzler,

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Speaker 1: the Boss, and k Ridge behind the glass and also Lyle,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Even when people say they don't like something, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well he must. Even when people say they don't like something,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying when they say they don't like it, for

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Speaker 1: making you don't like it, but or is saying that

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Speaker 1: they don't like attention for something they said, I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it. You are a factory upstatist.