WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: “Return Him to His Family"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks. It is Friday, June twenty seventh, and

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<v Speaker 1>closing arguments are done in the Diddy trial. Both sides

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<v Speaker 1>have said all they can say, and they've made their

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<v Speaker 1>cases to the jury and it is now up to

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<v Speaker 1>them to decide the fate of Sean Diddy Combs. And

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<v Speaker 1>with that, welcome to this second did He update of

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<v Speaker 1>the day here on Amy and TJ and Romes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long, long day in court usually throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>case they've been going usually till three o'clock. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>went well passed a couple hours past till five plus,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been listening to a lot of lawyer's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and telling them completely opposite things. Disregard this, think

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<v Speaker 2>about that. They've seen a lot of show voting, gesticulating,

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<v Speaker 2>and some very interesting common sense arguments, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff. I think many of the jurors might

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<v Speaker 2>have been internally rolling their eyes out, But we can

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<v Speaker 2>get into all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mark Agnifhilo, the lead attorney for did He, started

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<v Speaker 1>the day off this morning and he went for about

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. They were saying, robes, I guess that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I guess lawyers are like Baptist preachers when they say

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't gonna take long, you just assume it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take longer. Number of times have been in church

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, hey, I'm wrapping up. That's when we

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<v Speaker 1>know to get settled in. So they said three hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did not stick to that time limit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, over four hours, but that actually pales in comparison

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<v Speaker 2>to the prosecution's closing arguments yesterday, when they went over

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<v Speaker 2>five hours or almost five hours, i should say. And

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<v Speaker 2>after the jurors sat through Mark Agniphilo's four hour plus

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<v Speaker 2>closing arguments, then Marine Komi came back for the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>and spent about ninety minutes for a rebuttal. So this

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<v Speaker 2>was an exceptionally long day for the jury. So the

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<v Speaker 2>judge before they even went back after the break, let

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<v Speaker 2>everyone know that he was saving his instructions for the

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<v Speaker 2>jury to Monday. So the jury officially will not begin

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<v Speaker 2>their deliberations until Monday, so they have the whole weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>To process what they heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's a good thing or a

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<v Speaker 2>bad thing. They're not supposed to talk to anybody about

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<v Speaker 2>what they've seen, heard witness, what they're thinking, what they're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling they.

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<v Speaker 1>Could use the break, just the rest. It's good to reset.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a long week for them, a very

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<v Speaker 1>trying week. I mean, it's telling me seven weeks for

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<v Speaker 1>them eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait goodness, and it could be an even longer week

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<v Speaker 2>next week. But I'm sure they're all getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>that fourth of July holiday a week from today, so

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<v Speaker 2>they have motivation to come back with some sort of verdict,

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of answer by the end of next week.

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<v Speaker 1>They and kind of we don't know how long the

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<v Speaker 1>jury instructions are going to take. So on Monday it

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<v Speaker 1>could take half the day. It could take one hour,

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<v Speaker 1>two three, so they might not get going into a

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<v Speaker 1>lunch or after, so you've maybe got a half day now,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's going to be up to them. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen jury sometimes say we want more time and go

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<v Speaker 1>into the nights, or are they going to end every

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<v Speaker 1>day at three, four, five? And you talk about as well,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them have personal lives and some things they

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<v Speaker 1>might want to get out for, and there are the

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<v Speaker 1>things they need to do they're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to determine. So we don't know how many hours they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get each day. But we know they got

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<v Speaker 1>four days next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe three and a half, like you're pointing out, because

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<v Speaker 2>of the juror, the judges instructions to the juror for deliberations,

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<v Speaker 2>so they may only have three and a half days.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, Court is out of session on the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>of July. If they need that day, that day will

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<v Speaker 2>be I guess spent with family enough to come back

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<v Speaker 2>the following week. We'll have to see. That's all TBD,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is so much for them to consider. Rose

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<v Speaker 1>the back and forth we we said it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>every time we hear one side, we go, wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a slam dunk, and then we hear the other side

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<v Speaker 1>and go wow, they just shot down everything that the

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. We kind of saw these volleys go

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth and they kind of went tit for tat.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll finish out. We gave you the in our

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<v Speaker 1>part one of the day. We told you what Mark Agnaphilo,

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<v Speaker 1>the lead attorney for Diddy, said in his first half

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<v Speaker 1>of his closing arguments. But he picked up and he

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time robes going after or at

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<v Speaker 1>least trying to discredit I should say, Cassie been to

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<v Speaker 1>a fine.

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<v Speaker 2>He certainly did, and in that he was also talking

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<v Speaker 2>about just this is a little bit of a tough point,

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<v Speaker 2>just because obviously the jurors saw Cassie, they listened to her,

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<v Speaker 2>they watched her demeanor. She was eight and a half

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<v Speaker 2>months pregnant. And so his big point was that that

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance video that was shown at nauseum during the trial,

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<v Speaker 2>he claims that was not a situation where she was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get away from Ditty from a freak off.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to be in a freak off and

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<v Speaker 2>he coerced her to come back.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he said, this was an argu or a quarrel.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he put it that way over a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he was offering an alternate explanation that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>involve coercion to actually perform during freak OSTs, but instead

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a lover's quarrel over a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is important because that's part of the reason of

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<v Speaker 1>part of the ways they can make a sex traffic count.

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<v Speaker 1>This particular incident they played the defense played a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that surveillance video. However, it's not a part that

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<v Speaker 1>you have seen in all likelihood it's not a part

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<v Speaker 1>of any of the violence going on. It's a different

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<v Speaker 1>angle in which they're just walking. You see her walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the hallway with a cell phone. Do you fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward to when he actually assaulted her, But then he

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<v Speaker 1>left her and he snatches something from her that was

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<v Speaker 1>the cell phone, and they claim that's the evidence. That's evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>She went back into the room, they say, for another

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<v Speaker 1>almost four minutes, and said, Hey, that is not a

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<v Speaker 1>scary place, right, So if it's not a scary place,

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<v Speaker 1>where is the fear that she has to perform a

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<v Speaker 1>sex act or she's going to be harmed? Yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>the argument? Did the jury by that one? Because the

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<v Speaker 1>rebuttal came that we're going to get into later that

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<v Speaker 1>went after that very theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So he said, the point is that room that Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>was in that she was seemingly running from.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course she was running from.

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<v Speaker 2>She went right back to it after what we all

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<v Speaker 2>saw in that surveillance video.

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<v Speaker 3>And why would she do that if she was scared

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<v Speaker 3>of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that point or anything about a different

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<v Speaker 1>angle or that argument. I haven't heard it before.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first I've heard of that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he also went to talk about Jane and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that point where the prosecution said she got

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<v Speaker 2>into a.

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<v Speaker 3>Fight with him. Then she went into another.

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<v Speaker 2>Room and the sex worker, the male escort, heard slapping

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<v Speaker 2>and hitting and then he was telling her you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and you have to perform well. They

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<v Speaker 2>point out that Fence pointed out in their closing arguments

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<v Speaker 2>that Jane started the fight, that she slammed Ditty's head

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<v Speaker 2>onto that countertop first, and said that that was not

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<v Speaker 2>the way the prosecution. It was very different than the

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<v Speaker 2>way the prosecution presented it and the way Jane testified

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<v Speaker 2>to look.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a violent fight. It was at her house,

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<v Speaker 1>as the one she went and hit outside of her

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<v Speaker 1>home for two hours. It was that night with a

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<v Speaker 1>terribly violent fight, and they they held onto this theory

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<v Speaker 1>this was supposed to be another sex trafficking night because

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<v Speaker 1>after she was beating up, they called a male escort

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<v Speaker 1>over and she was told to perform.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, put some ice on those bruises, and that was night.

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<v Speaker 1>Put on what was the line? It was something so

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<v Speaker 1>good off, like put on something nice or put on lingerie.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it wanted her to put on laingerie.

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<v Speaker 2>While she was icing her injuries that he gave her

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<v Speaker 2>and said, and now you're going to perform.

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<v Speaker 1>So that night, as awful as it was, the way

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<v Speaker 1>they are framing it now with the defense is she

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<v Speaker 1>started the fight. She's not being trafficked. She's not being

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<v Speaker 1>told you have to do this because or I'm threatening

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<v Speaker 1>you with violence. No, she pounded his head onto a marble.

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<v Speaker 2>Countertop because she was jealous over some young thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy was seeing on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>And say they even went further on this night, saying

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<v Speaker 1>this came out of nowhere, and even made the suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>that this whole night was a setup, waiting for this

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<v Speaker 1>because at this point he was allegations were out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie's lawsuit was out there.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that was kind of shocking to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think to you as weal tj because we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this, we heard Mark say to the jury,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys know who her baby father is talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Jane and kept alluding to personal information about Jane that

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<v Speaker 2>has been kept confidential at trial for all of us, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's known to the juris.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's almost like we were saying, he was suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>that they go home this weekend and google it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that point is obviously this person who is her baby daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>who we won't say.

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<v Speaker 3>Because obviously that would identify perhaps who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said, look, bottom line, Jane was there with

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<v Speaker 2>him in Vegas and she was comfortable being in that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stratosphere or strata. So this is where she

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<v Speaker 2>attended another freak off like sex party, and so she

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<v Speaker 2>went there willingly with her baby daddy, who's also a

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<v Speaker 2>well known person, and so this is herm Basically, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they were trying to imply. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little shocking that he was being so specific in potentially

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<v Speaker 2>identifying Jane in his closing arguments.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody objected, nobody grout and hollered. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was allowed, but it sounded very tabloid ish. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounded very social media chatter like that he just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slid that in there. And to your point, it

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<v Speaker 1>does sound like they are aware, right, the the jury

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<v Speaker 1>is aware.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they see her, so, I mean, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>obviously testifying under her actual name, but her face isn't

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<v Speaker 2>obscure in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was the assignment it did? It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>an assignment. He planted something in their heads for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason with that, why now we need a legal experts?

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of doubt being cast the other thing. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>there was something that Mark was trying to do or

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<v Speaker 2>at least provide another explanation for freakoffs to the jury

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't really pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Pass the test for me.

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<v Speaker 2>He really tried to tell the jurors, or bring this

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<v Speaker 2>home to the jurors, that these freak offs weren't just

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<v Speaker 2>about sex, that this was about hanging out, about eating food,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to music. He brought up usher, He talked about

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie eating watermelon, that this was just a good old

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<v Speaker 2>time where sometimes sex happened.

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<v Speaker 3>How'd you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that you. I'm sorry, I love you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think you did a disservice. You should read that

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<v Speaker 1>his oka read it line for line, and he puts

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<v Speaker 1>together a beautiful It sounds like a party you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to go to, A.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautifully tonight, a beautiful evening. He called it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you see the next the music's nice, the mood

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<v Speaker 1>seems friendly and easy going, and everyone is smiling, they're laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget the sex part. There's a real genuine intimacy and

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<v Speaker 1>just nice quality to these evenings.

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<v Speaker 3>That's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough after you heard both of these women tearfully

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<v Speaker 2>talk about having to painfully continue to perform for hours

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<v Speaker 2>on end, fueled with drugs, with ut eyes and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeast infections, no condoms.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is just a completely completely different explanation

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<v Speaker 2>for what the videos were that we saw nice. He

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<v Speaker 2>even said this, this is you're right, I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mytilation was nowhere near as entertaining as his exact words.

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<v Speaker 2>So these were his exact words from Mark Agniphillo. Looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the videos you heard from Jane, there is a rapport.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is smiling. It is a sex party.

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<v Speaker 2>They are eating food, Cassie is eating watermelon. They are

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<v Speaker 2>listening to music. The two escorts called to testify said

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of talking and hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohaps, it sounds like what that sounds like a beautiful evening.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds kind of laughable though, once you've all, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these jurors have heard testify to something completely So that

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<v Speaker 2>act like a lot of what he did, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what he said actually was very effective. As we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in part one of what happened, earlier this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>This he completely lost me as someone who is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to keep my mind open, and I just it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of laughable.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you agree, I okay, to your point, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go too far too often. This was one that might

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<v Speaker 1>have felt like a stretch. Now, even if everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>that video was a completely willing participant, you still couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>describe it as the beautiful thing that he described pasably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and look, the other thing the defense was arguing

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the trial and tried to bring home again today

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<v Speaker 2>in closing arguments was that these male escorts were invited

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<v Speaker 2>to hotel nights or freak golfs, however you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call them. They were paid for their time and their experience,

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<v Speaker 2>not sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, come on, escort that's what it means, right, escort.

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<v Speaker 1>You escort me here, you escort me there, you keep

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<v Speaker 1>me company.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet the escorts described having sex with his girls

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<v Speaker 2>while he masturbated. Yes, so I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 2>about as we heard from the rebuttal scintillating conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an open contract. They didn't know what they were. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a point that the defense attorney made several

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<v Speaker 1>times today that no they were not paid for sex.

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<v Speaker 1>He point. He made a point of one uh one

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<v Speaker 1>evening they had somebody come by. He was rejected by Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was she didn't like that guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they still paid him.

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<v Speaker 3>An he lefts one time. One time sex didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't hang your hat.

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<v Speaker 2>On the one anomaly where they didn't have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'm not the lawyer here. I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 1>what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>But he lost me on that one, and the attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>Did kind of this is laughable. She called it laughable

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<v Speaker 1>to think they weren't there for sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do think that this was This was an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting comment that that Mark Agnifilo said. He said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is the only man in America making

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<v Speaker 2>homemade porn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of not that's not simplifying, but also being

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<v Speaker 1>dismissive of what did he is doing. He's being dismissive

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<v Speaker 1>because so many other people do this. Why is on

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<v Speaker 1>trial for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that land? I don't know, but that was a

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<v Speaker 1>way of kind of leveling the field. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of men do.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of his better lines in this second half.

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<v Speaker 2>But he again had so many other ones for me

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<v Speaker 2>that I was like, Ooh, I think you've I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've over overreached at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Just again my non legal opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and stay with us here, folks, because when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, quick break here. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to tell you what the Diddy's defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>his lead attorney, Agnifillo, what he thought should be his

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<v Speaker 1>final words to the jury. Also will tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution wrapped things up, and a big update to

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule for the jury. All right, folks, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mark Agnifilo closed, wrapped up his arguments, Robes, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the line was important when we talked about sex truck,

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<v Speaker 1>was every single incident, every freak off considered sex trafficking?

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<v Speaker 1>He asked the jury the question. The government said, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that every single hotel night was sex trafficking. Well, then,

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<v Speaker 1>which ones were? And how is Sean Combe supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>know the difference? If you just write that down and

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<v Speaker 1>take that into the jury room with you, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of powerful. Which ones were, which ones weren't, which ones were?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she coursed enough here? She was scared enough on

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<v Speaker 1>this one?

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<v Speaker 2>With that? Now, I was shocked when we heard the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor the government acknowledged that, because on one hand, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, they're trying to say, hey, we're not saying

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<v Speaker 2>every single night was sex trafficking, but there and they

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<v Speaker 2>laid out the three, I believe, specific instances where they

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<v Speaker 2>said it was. But that does open the door for

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<v Speaker 2>what we just heard from Agnafillo that how I said this,

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<v Speaker 2>how is did he supposed to know that this time

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to do it or this time it's

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<v Speaker 2>not okay to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That that seems.

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<v Speaker 2>A little gray and a little shaky in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>what Ditty was supposed to know. If they're acknowledging, if

0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the prosecution is acknowledging there were parties, freak offs, hotel

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<v Speaker 2>nights where it wasn't sex trafficking, that is confusing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's fair to at least assume that it might

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<v Speaker 2>be confusing to Ditty.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get that, I do get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a legal question I was about to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I said, you know what, We're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>down a rabbit hole and need one of us as

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<v Speaker 1>the actual answer. Yes, But the club Again, it's always important,

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to find a powerful moment but these were

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<v Speaker 1>the words Agnifilo chose to be the final ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think they were powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is what Mark Agnavillo in his final attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>sway the jury to find Ditty innocent. He said this,

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<v Speaker 2>you should feel bold, You should feel the courage that

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<v Speaker 2>you will need to call this as you see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am asking you to summon that courage and

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<v Speaker 2>to do what needs to be done and to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing. He sits there, innocent. Return him to

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<v Speaker 2>his family who have been waiting for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That line almost trying to embolden them. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like you have the power to Again, there seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of calling on people's common sense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>call it as you see it. Don't be afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>call it as you see it. That's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good con communicator. Whoever this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, he was excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>And Yes, that was a very powerful final statement to

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<v Speaker 2>the jury. And then Maureen Comy came up for the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecution to conduct the rebuttal and it was interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>there was a big difference from what we have heard

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<v Speaker 2>or at least read from the courtroom reporters. Mariene Comy

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<v Speaker 2>came off a little bit more boisterous, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 2>little sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 3>She was had a tone that didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Match necessarily agnifilo, but at least a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing the show, voting the theatrics in

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<v Speaker 2>the courtroom, and she went after his inexcusable behavior. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>but she said again, it repeated this, and we heard

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<v Speaker 2>this throughout the trial with Diddy. No was never an option.

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<v Speaker 2>But I appreciated when she said about escorts not being

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<v Speaker 2>paid for sex, but instead being paid for what their time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and their experience companionship. She said, this is companionship.

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<v Speaker 2>This was probably one of my favorite lines I heard

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<v Speaker 2>from prosecutors in the last two days. She said that

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<v Speaker 2>notion that theory doesn't even pass the laugh test. Common

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<v Speaker 2>sense tells you that he did not pay them for

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<v Speaker 2>their scintillating conversation that landed.

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<v Speaker 1>Common sense was more of a theme for the rebuttal

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<v Speaker 1>than it was for the main closing. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of going through legal this and statutes and matching

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<v Speaker 1>up with this count in that count. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this ring comming, was a lot of come home, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a break, man, are you kidding? Me, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of that in her Uh, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Agne Phillo was doing that as well, started off to prosecution, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so she kind of took on that same tone and

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<v Speaker 2>she got a little This.

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<v Speaker 3>Is where she kind of got sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 2>You were not sure this one landed as well when

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to make the argument that Diddy was

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<v Speaker 2>not bringing a gun to go confront kid Cutty Cuddy,

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<v Speaker 2>that Diddy was more of a handsome, fist guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>would never bring a weapon to an argument.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how he rolled. And she took that and

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<v Speaker 3>turned it around a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I she says, Agnefhillo said, Sean Combs was

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<v Speaker 1>a hand and fist guy. Sure with his girlfriends. It

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<v Speaker 1>almost sounds like it's supposed to be a but ump

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<v Speaker 1>bump at the end, like it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a taking a shot at him. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how effective some of that stuff is. It just to

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it was trying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so it was interesting because obviously the defense

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<v Speaker 2>in its final arguments, was really trying to bring home

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that yes on Dittycomb's domestically abused his girlfriends

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<v Speaker 2>and they weren't shy about admitting that and then pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out very specifically that he's not been charged with that,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's not the issue. But then Marine Commey tried

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<v Speaker 2>to take that and she told jurors being a domestic

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<v Speaker 2>abuser is not a defense to sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think about that statement?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the one that might be at the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the case because the defense is saying the exact

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<v Speaker 1>opposite that just because you are an abuser, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're a sex trafficker, right, And just because the

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<v Speaker 1>person you're view abusing is also involved in your sex fantasies,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you are a sex trafficker. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that statement is at the heart of what these two

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<v Speaker 1>are going after and what this jury is going to

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>have to start starting on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Marine Comy really wanted to bring this home

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<v Speaker 2>to the jurors as well. She said the defense the

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<v Speaker 2>entire trial and specifically definitely during these closing arguments, tried

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:09.120
<v Speaker 2>to blame Ditty's alleged victims and the government with his

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.199
<v Speaker 2>own choices, and so she was like, stop blaming the

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 2>prosecution for going after Ditty or blaming Cassie or.

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<v Speaker 3>Jane for going after Diddy.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to be responsible for his choices, and she

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to bring that home. She said that Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>and Jane weren't women out for vengeance. They weren't women

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<v Speaker 2>who were out for money. Yes, Cassie was paid, Yes

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<v Speaker 2>Jane has been staying in an apartment paid for by Ditty,

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<v Speaker 2>but she said they had no other reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>at this trial except for standing up for what is right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with that, the testimony, the closing arguments, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all done, and so we have to wait until Monday

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happens next. But thank you for listening

0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to us throughout this entire trial, talking about the testimony

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<v Speaker 2>and listening to our thoughts on what was going on

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<v Speaker 2>in that Lower Manhattan court room.

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<v Speaker 3>Will continue to follow all of the proceedings. We hope

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<v Speaker 3>you have a wonderful weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>M