1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Friday, June twenty seventh, and 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: closing arguments are done in the Diddy trial. Both sides 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: have said all they can say, and they've made their 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: cases to the jury and it is now up to 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: them to decide the fate of Sean Diddy Combs. And 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this second did He update of 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the day here on Amy and TJ and Romes. It's 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: been a long, long day in court usually throughout the 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: case they've been going usually till three o'clock. Yeah, they 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: went well passed a couple hours past till five plus, 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: and they've been listening to a lot of lawyer's talk. 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Yes and telling them completely opposite things. Disregard this, think 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: about that. They've seen a lot of show voting, gesticulating, 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: and some very interesting common sense arguments, and then a 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: lot of stuff. I think many of the jurors might 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: have been internally rolling their eyes out, But we can 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: get into all of that. 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: But Mark Agnifhilo, the lead attorney for did He, started 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the day off this morning and he went for about 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: four hours. They were saying, robes, I guess that's where 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: I guess lawyers are like Baptist preachers when they say 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna take long, you just assume it's going 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: to take longer. Number of times have been in church 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: and they say, hey, I'm wrapping up. That's when we 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: know to get settled in. So they said three hours, 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: and they did not stick to that time limit. 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Yes, over four hours, but that actually pales in comparison 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: to the prosecution's closing arguments yesterday, when they went over 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: five hours or almost five hours, i should say. And 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: after the jurors sat through Mark Agniphilo's four hour plus 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: closing arguments, then Marine Komi came back for the prosecution 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: and spent about ninety minutes for a rebuttal. So this 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: was an exceptionally long day for the jury. So the 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: judge before they even went back after the break, let 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: everyone know that he was saving his instructions for the 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: jury to Monday. So the jury officially will not begin 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: their deliberations until Monday, so they have the whole weekend. 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: To process what they heard. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing or a 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: bad thing. They're not supposed to talk to anybody about 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: what they've seen, heard witness, what they're thinking, what they're 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: feeling they. 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Could use the break, just the rest. It's good to reset. 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: It has been a long week for them, a very 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: trying week. I mean, it's telling me seven weeks for 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: them eight weeks. 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: Wait goodness, and it could be an even longer week 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: next week. But I'm sure they're all getting ready for 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: that fourth of July holiday a week from today, so 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: they have motivation to come back with some sort of verdict, 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: some sort of answer by the end of next week. 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: They and kind of we don't know how long the 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: jury instructions are going to take. So on Monday it 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: could take half the day. It could take one hour, 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: two three, so they might not get going into a 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: lunch or after, so you've maybe got a half day now, 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: he said, it's going to be up to them. I've 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: seen jury sometimes say we want more time and go 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: into the nights, or are they going to end every 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: day at three, four, five? And you talk about as well, 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: some of them have personal lives and some things they 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: might want to get out for, and there are the 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: things they need to do they're going to be able 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: to determine. So we don't know how many hours they're 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: going to get each day. But we know they got 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: four days next week. 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe three and a half, like you're pointing out, because 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 2: of the juror, the judges instructions to the juror for deliberations, 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: so they may only have three and a half days. 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: For sure, Court is out of session on the fourth 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: of July. If they need that day, that day will 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: be I guess spent with family enough to come back 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: the following week. We'll have to see. That's all TBD, 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: you know. 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: And there is so much for them to consider. Rose 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the back and forth we we said it. I mean, 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: every time we hear one side, we go, wow, that's 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: a slam dunk, and then we hear the other side 79 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: and go wow, they just shot down everything that the 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: back and forth. We kind of saw these volleys go 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: back and forth and they kind of went tit for tat. 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: But we'll finish out. We gave you the in our 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: part one of the day. We told you what Mark Agnaphilo, 84 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: the lead attorney for Diddy, said in his first half 85 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: of his closing arguments. But he picked up and he 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time robes going after or at 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: least trying to discredit I should say, Cassie been to 88 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: a fine. 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: He certainly did, and in that he was also talking 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: about just this is a little bit of a tough point, 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: just because obviously the jurors saw Cassie, they listened to her, 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: they watched her demeanor. She was eight and a half 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: months pregnant. And so his big point was that that 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: surveillance video that was shown at nauseum during the trial, 95 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: he claims that was not a situation where she was 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: trying to get away from Ditty from a freak off. 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: She didn't want to be in a freak off and 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: he coerced her to come back. 99 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: No, he said, this was an argu or a quarrel. 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: I believe he put it that way over a cell phone. 101 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: And so he was offering an alternate explanation that didn't 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: involve coercion to actually perform during freak OSTs, but instead 103 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 2: it was just a lover's quarrel over a cell phone. 104 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: This is important because that's part of the reason of 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: part of the ways they can make a sex traffic count. 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: This particular incident they played the defense played a part 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: of that surveillance video. However, it's not a part that 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: you have seen in all likelihood it's not a part 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: of any of the violence going on. It's a different 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: angle in which they're just walking. You see her walking 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: down the hallway with a cell phone. Do you fast 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: forward to when he actually assaulted her, But then he 113 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: left her and he snatches something from her that was 114 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: the cell phone, and they claim that's the evidence. That's evidence. 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: She went back into the room, they say, for another 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: almost four minutes, and said, Hey, that is not a 117 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: scary place, right, So if it's not a scary place, 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: where is the fear that she has to perform a 119 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: sex act or she's going to be harmed? Yeah, is 120 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the argument? Did the jury by that one? Because the 121 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: rebuttal came that we're going to get into later that 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: went after that very theory. 123 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: So he said, the point is that room that Diddy 125 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: was in that she was seemingly running from. 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 3: Of course she was running from. 127 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: She went right back to it after what we all 128 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: saw in that surveillance video. 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 3: And why would she do that if she was scared 130 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: of him. 131 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: I've never heard that point or anything about a different 132 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: angle or that argument. I haven't heard it before. 133 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: That's the first I've heard of that as well. 134 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: And then he also went to talk about Jane and 135 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: talked about that point where the prosecution said she got 136 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: into a. 137 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: Fight with him. Then she went into another. 138 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: Room and the sex worker, the male escort, heard slapping 139 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: and hitting and then he was telling her you have 140 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: to go back and you have to perform well. They 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: point out that Fence pointed out in their closing arguments 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: that Jane started the fight, that she slammed Ditty's head 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: onto that countertop first, and said that that was not 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: the way the prosecution. It was very different than the 145 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: way the prosecution presented it and the way Jane testified 146 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: to look. 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: It was a violent fight. It was at her house, 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: as the one she went and hit outside of her 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: home for two hours. It was that night with a 150 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: terribly violent fight, and they they held onto this theory 151 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: this was supposed to be another sex trafficking night because 152 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: after she was beating up, they called a male escort 153 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: over and she was told to perform. 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, put some ice on those bruises, and that was night. 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Put on what was the line? It was something so 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: good off, like put on something nice or put on lingerie. 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: I thought it wanted her to put on laingerie. 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: While she was icing her injuries that he gave her 159 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: and said, and now you're going to perform. 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: So that night, as awful as it was, the way 161 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: they are framing it now with the defense is she 162 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: started the fight. She's not being trafficked. She's not being 163 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: told you have to do this because or I'm threatening 164 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: you with violence. No, she pounded his head onto a marble. 165 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: Countertop because she was jealous over some young thing that 166 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Diddy was seeing on the side. 167 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: And say they even went further on this night, saying 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: this came out of nowhere, and even made the suggestion 169 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: that this whole night was a setup, waiting for this 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: because at this point he was allegations were out there, 171 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Cassie's lawsuit was out there. 172 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: The other thing that was kind of shocking to me, 173 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: and I think to you as weal tj because we 174 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: talked about this, we heard Mark say to the jury, 175 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: you guys know who her baby father is talking about 176 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Jane and kept alluding to personal information about Jane that 177 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: has been kept confidential at trial for all of us, but. 178 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: It's known to the juris. 179 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: But it's almost like we were saying, he was suggesting 180 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: that they go home this weekend and google it. And 181 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: that point is obviously this person who is her baby daddy, 182 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: who we won't say. 183 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: Because obviously that would identify perhaps who she is. 184 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: But he said, look, bottom line, Jane was there with 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: him in Vegas and she was comfortable being in that 186 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: sort of stratosphere or strata. So this is where she 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: attended another freak off like sex party, and so she 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: went there willingly with her baby daddy, who's also a 189 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: well known person, and so this is herm Basically, that's 190 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: what they were trying to imply. But it was a 191 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: little shocking that he was being so specific in potentially 192 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: identifying Jane in his closing arguments. 193 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody objected, nobody grout and hollered. I guess 194 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: it was allowed, but it sounded very tabloid ish. It 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: sounded very social media chatter like that he just kind 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: of slid that in there. And to your point, it 197 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: does sound like they are aware, right, the the jury 198 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: is aware. 199 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: I mean they see her, so, I mean, she's not 200 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: obviously testifying under her actual name, but her face isn't 201 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: obscure in any way. 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: But what was the assignment it did? It seemed like 203 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: an assignment. He planted something in their heads for some 204 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: reason with that, why now we need a legal experts? 205 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: Lots of doubt being cast the other thing. To me, 206 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: there was something that Mark was trying to do or 207 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: at least provide another explanation for freakoffs to the jury 208 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: that didn't really pass. 209 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: Pass the test for me. 210 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: He really tried to tell the jurors, or bring this 211 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: home to the jurors, that these freak offs weren't just 212 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: about sex, that this was about hanging out, about eating food, 213 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: listening to music. He brought up usher, He talked about 214 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Cassie eating watermelon, that this was just a good old 215 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: time where sometimes sex happened. 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: How'd you feel about that? 217 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: I feel that you. I'm sorry, I love you, but 218 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I think you did a disservice. You should read that 219 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: his oka read it line for line, and he puts 220 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: together a beautiful It sounds like a party you'd like 221 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: to go to, A. 222 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: Beautifully tonight, a beautiful evening. He called it. 223 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you see the next the music's nice, the mood 224 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: seems friendly and easy going, and everyone is smiling, they're laughing. 225 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Forget the sex part. There's a real genuine intimacy and 226 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: just nice quality to these evenings. 227 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: That's tough. 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: That's tough after you heard both of these women tearfully 229 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: talk about having to painfully continue to perform for hours 230 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: on end, fueled with drugs, with ut eyes and. 231 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeast infections, no condoms. 232 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: And then this is just a completely completely different explanation 233 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: for what the videos were that we saw nice. He 234 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: even said this, this is you're right, I did it. 235 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: Mytilation was nowhere near as entertaining as his exact words. 236 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: So these were his exact words from Mark Agniphillo. Looking 237 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: at the videos you heard from Jane, there is a rapport. 238 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: Everyone is smiling. It is a sex party. 239 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: They are eating food, Cassie is eating watermelon. They are 240 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: listening to music. The two escorts called to testify said 241 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: there was a lot of talking and hanging out. 242 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Ohaps, it sounds like what that sounds like a beautiful evening. 243 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: It sounds kind of laughable though, once you've all, I mean, 244 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: these jurors have heard testify to something completely So that 245 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: act like a lot of what he did, a lot 246 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: of what he said actually was very effective. As we 247 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: talked about in part one of what happened, earlier this morning. 248 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: This he completely lost me as someone who is trying 249 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: to keep my mind open, and I just it was 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: kind of laughable. 251 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, you agree, I okay, to your point, he didn't 252 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: go too far too often. This was one that might 253 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: have felt like a stretch. Now, even if everyone in 254 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: that video was a completely willing participant, you still couldn't 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: describe it as the beautiful thing that he described pasably. 256 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and look, the other thing the defense was arguing 257 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: throughout the trial and tried to bring home again today 258 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: in closing arguments was that these male escorts were invited 259 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: to hotel nights or freak golfs, however you want to 260 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: call them. They were paid for their time and their experience, 261 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: not sex. 262 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, escort that's what it means, right, escort. 263 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: You escort me here, you escort me there, you keep 264 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: me company. 265 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: And yet the escorts described having sex with his girls 266 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: while he masturbated. Yes, so I don't think it was 267 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: about as we heard from the rebuttal scintillating conversation. 268 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: It was an open contract. They didn't know what they were. Yes, 269 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: that is a point that the defense attorney made several 270 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: times today that no they were not paid for sex. 271 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: He point. He made a point of one uh one 272 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: evening they had somebody come by. He was rejected by Jane. 273 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: I think it was she didn't like that guy, and 274 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: they still paid him. 275 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: An he lefts one time. One time sex didn't happen. 276 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: So you can't hang your hat. 277 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: On the one anomaly where they didn't have sex. 278 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not the lawyer here. I'm just telling you 279 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: what he said. 280 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: But he lost me on that one, and the attorney. 281 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: Did kind of this is laughable. She called it laughable 282 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: to think they weren't there for sex. 283 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I do think that this was This was an 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: interesting comment that that Mark Agnifilo said. He said, I 285 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: don't think this is the only man in America making 286 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: homemade porn. 287 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of not that's not simplifying, but also being 288 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: dismissive of what did he is doing. He's being dismissive 289 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: because so many other people do this. Why is on 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: trial for it? 291 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: Correct? 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Does that land? I don't know, but that was a 293 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: way of kind of leveling the field. This is what 294 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of men do. 295 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: That was one of his better lines in this second half. 296 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: But he again had so many other ones for me 297 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: that I was like, Ooh, I think you've I think 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: you've over overreached at this point. 299 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: Just again my non legal opinion. 300 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: All right, and stay with us here, folks, because when 301 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: we come back, quick break here. When we come back, 302 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: we're going to tell you what the Diddy's defense attorney, 303 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: his lead attorney, Agnifillo, what he thought should be his 304 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: final words to the jury. Also will tell you how 305 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: the prosecution wrapped things up, and a big update to 306 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: the schedule for the jury. All right, folks, welcome back. 307 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:55,359 Speaker 1: As Mark Agnifilo closed, wrapped up his arguments, Robes, I 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: thought the line was important when we talked about sex truck, 309 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: was every single incident, every freak off considered sex trafficking? 310 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: He asked the jury the question. The government said, they're 311 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: not saying that every single hotel night was sex trafficking. Well, then, 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: which ones were? And how is Sean Combe supposed to 313 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: know the difference? If you just write that down and 314 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: take that into the jury room with you, that's kind 315 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: of powerful. Which ones were, which ones weren't, which ones were? 316 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Was she coursed enough here? She was scared enough on 317 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: this one? 318 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: With that? Now, I was shocked when we heard the 319 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: prosecutor the government acknowledged that, because on one hand, I 320 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: get it, they're trying to say, hey, we're not saying 321 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: every single night was sex trafficking, but there and they 322 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: laid out the three, I believe, specific instances where they 323 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: said it was. But that does open the door for 324 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: what we just heard from Agnafillo that how I said this, 325 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: how is did he supposed to know that this time 326 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: they don't want to do it or this time it's 327 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: not okay to do it. 328 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: That that seems. 329 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: A little gray and a little shaky in terms of 330 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 2: what Ditty was supposed to know. If they're acknowledging, if 331 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: the prosecution is acknowledging there were parties, freak offs, hotel 332 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: nights where it wasn't sex trafficking, that is confusing to me. 333 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: So it's fair to at least assume that it might 334 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: be confusing to Ditty. 335 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: So I get that, I do get that. 336 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: I had a legal question I was about to ask. 337 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Then I said, you know what, We're going to go 338 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole and need one of us as 339 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: the actual answer. Yes, But the club Again, it's always important, 340 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: always trying to find a powerful moment but these were 341 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: the words Agnifilo chose to be the final ones. 342 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they were powerful. 343 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: Here is what Mark Agnavillo in his final attempt to 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: sway the jury to find Ditty innocent. He said this, 345 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: you should feel bold, You should feel the courage that 346 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: you will need to call this as you see it. 347 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: And I am asking you to summon that courage and 348 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: to do what needs to be done and to do 349 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: the right thing. He sits there, innocent. Return him to 350 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: his family who have been waiting for him. 351 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Wow. That line almost trying to embolden them. It seems 352 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: like you have the power to Again, there seems to 353 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: be a lot of calling on people's common sense. Yes, 354 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: call it as you see it. Don't be afraid to 355 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: call it as you see it. That's I don't know. 356 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: He's a good con communicator. Whoever this guy. 357 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: Is, he was excellent. 358 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: And Yes, that was a very powerful final statement to 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: the jury. And then Maureen Comy came up for the 360 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: prosecution to conduct the rebuttal and it was interesting because 361 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: there was a big difference from what we have heard 362 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: or at least read from the courtroom reporters. Mariene Comy 363 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: came off a little bit more boisterous, maybe even a 364 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: little sarcastic. 365 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: She was had a tone that didn't. 366 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Match necessarily agnifilo, but at least a little bit of 367 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: what he was doing the show, voting the theatrics in 368 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: the courtroom, and she went after his inexcusable behavior. She said, 369 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: but she said again, it repeated this, and we heard 370 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: this throughout the trial with Diddy. No was never an option. 371 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: But I appreciated when she said about escorts not being 372 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: paid for sex, but instead being paid for what their time. 373 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: Yes, and their experience companionship. She said, this is companionship. 374 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: This was probably one of my favorite lines I heard 375 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: from prosecutors in the last two days. She said that 376 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: notion that theory doesn't even pass the laugh test. Common 377 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: sense tells you that he did not pay them for 378 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: their scintillating conversation that landed. 379 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Common sense was more of a theme for the rebuttal 380 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: than it was for the main closing. There was a 381 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: lot of going through legal this and statutes and matching 382 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: up with this count in that count. That was a 383 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: lot of this ring comming, was a lot of come home, man, Yeah, 384 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: give me a break, man, are you kidding? Me, man, 385 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that was a lot of that in her Uh, but. 386 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: Agne Phillo was doing that as well, started off to prosecution, right, 387 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: so she kind of took on that same tone and 388 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: she got a little This. 389 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: Is where she kind of got sarcastic. 390 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: You were not sure this one landed as well when 391 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: they were trying to make the argument that Diddy was 392 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: not bringing a gun to go confront kid Cutty Cuddy, 393 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: that Diddy was more of a handsome, fist guy. He 394 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: would never bring a weapon to an argument. 395 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: That's not how he rolled. And she took that and 396 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: turned it around a bit. 397 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I she says, Agnefhillo said, Sean Combs was 398 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: a hand and fist guy. Sure with his girlfriends. It 399 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: almost sounds like it's supposed to be a but ump 400 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: bump at the end, like it was just kind of 401 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: a taking a shot at him. And I don't know 402 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: how effective some of that stuff is. It just to 403 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: looks like it was trying. 404 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it was interesting because obviously the defense 405 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: in its final arguments, was really trying to bring home 406 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: the fact that yes on Dittycomb's domestically abused his girlfriends 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: and they weren't shy about admitting that and then pointing 408 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: out very specifically that he's not been charged with that, 409 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: so that's not the issue. But then Marine Commey tried 410 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: to take that and she told jurors being a domestic 411 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: abuser is not a defense to sex trafficking. 412 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: What did you think about that statement? 413 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's the one that might be at the heart 414 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: of the case because the defense is saying the exact 415 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: opposite that just because you are an abuser, it doesn't 416 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: mean you're a sex trafficker, right, And just because the 417 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: person you're view abusing is also involved in your sex fantasies, 418 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you are a sex trafficker. So, yeah, 419 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: that statement is at the heart of what these two 420 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: are going after and what this jury is going to 421 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: have to start starting on Monday. 422 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Marine Comy really wanted to bring this home 423 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: to the jurors as well. She said the defense the 424 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: entire trial and specifically definitely during these closing arguments, tried 425 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: to blame Ditty's alleged victims and the government with his 426 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: own choices, and so she was like, stop blaming the 427 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: prosecution for going after Ditty or blaming Cassie or. 428 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: Jane for going after Diddy. 429 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: He has to be responsible for his choices, and she 430 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: really wanted to bring that home. She said that Cassie 431 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: and Jane weren't women out for vengeance. They weren't women 432 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: who were out for money. Yes, Cassie was paid, Yes 433 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: Jane has been staying in an apartment paid for by Ditty, 434 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: but she said they had no other reason to be 435 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: at this trial except for standing up for what is right. 436 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: And so with that, the testimony, the closing arguments, it's 437 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: all done, and so we have to wait until Monday 438 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: to see what happens next. But thank you for listening 439 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: to us throughout this entire trial, talking about the testimony 440 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: and listening to our thoughts on what was going on 441 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: in that Lower Manhattan court room. 442 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: Will continue to follow all of the proceedings. We hope 443 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: you have a wonderful weekend. 444 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: M