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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BED three

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Speaker 1: Live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Mohman of the Action Network. Folks, this is our Sunday

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Speaker 1: night episode for the second week in a row. We're

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Speaker 1: going live while we are sweating the end of a

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Speaker 1: game last week was tragic, horrific, created a moment that

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Speaker 1: I know many of us will remember. I do not,

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Speaker 1: because I blacked out the rest of this show. While

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Speaker 1: we sweat the end of this rams Seahawks game Rams

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Speaker 1: up by seven two minute warning they're about to punt

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Speaker 1: the ball. We have the RAMS minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: We need the RAMS for our lungs. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: we will review our five favorite pick that we put

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Speaker 1: into the contest today to sect the games we left out,

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for Week ten, Folks,

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Speaker 1: Week ten, I'm joined as always, buying my co host,

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Speaker 1: my companion, Mike Capadre, my professional better Simon Hunter or

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Speaker 1: at Simon.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chad? How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: This is why we do it? This is the fun,

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Speaker 1: This is the sweat, this is the test. We've liked

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Speaker 1: the Rams. We liked the Rams all week. We had

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Speaker 1: a chance to take them out when they were favorites.

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Speaker 1: We decided to stick with it. We thought they were

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Speaker 1: better team. This game has been back and forth. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get into it, but out of the corner

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Speaker 1: of my eye, we're going to sweat this game. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to mush us in any way as they

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Speaker 1: might have done last week with the Chicago Bears. But

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Speaker 1: this is the kind of day it's been. Okay Simon

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Speaker 1: for me, based on Sean Kerner's advice, I'm convinced me

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Speaker 1: this morning I bet Cody Barton over seven and a

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Speaker 1: half tackles and assists in the Ravens Broncos games game

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Speaker 1: to this morning. He had seven and a half tackles

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Speaker 1: and assists for the entire fourth quarter. He did not cash.

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Speaker 1: He missed the eighth tackle on a penalty against the

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Speaker 1: Broncos near the goal line that the Ravens accepted the penalty,

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Speaker 1: the play didn't count. He never got another He never

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Speaker 1: got in another play again. It's been a strange, challenging,

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Speaker 1: difficult day. Let's see if the Rams can get this

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Speaker 1: punt off, you might be ahead of me. Right now.

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Speaker 1: But the last time they tried this in this area

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Speaker 1: didn't work. They did, that's good news. Fair catch by

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks one fifty four Seahawks coming out of the field.

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Speaker 2: Now it's going to be a sweat.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be exhausting.

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Speaker 2: Engine is not having the best game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, other than those insane deep downfield throws right now,

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Speaker 3: he's not playing that great of a game. So both quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: even Stafford. Stafford, how many three and ounces he had

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Speaker 3: in this game?

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Speaker 1: So dude, that was in his hands, that interception was

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Speaker 2: He just ended, we know what it's about. The half of.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, here's the good news. When we had our

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Speaker 1: Sunday conversation, we were starting to feel really good about

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Speaker 1: the Giants at four and a half in the contest,

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Speaker 1: and we still like New England at three and a

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Speaker 1: half in the contest, all of them ugly dogs. Of course,

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Speaker 1: And thank god, because our favorites the Buffalo Bills minus six,

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Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what Nick Giffen's expected scores

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Speaker 1: for those games should have been, because it's tragic they

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Speaker 1: for a second, because to me, while we're watching this game,

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Speaker 3: Fourth a half, fourth and five now, so this might

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Speaker 1: All Right, you're a little bit ahead of me, so great,

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Speaker 1: but let's talk about this one anyways. To me, like

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Speaker 1: the key moment was the end of the first half.

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Speaker 1: Like in the red zone, Stanford nearly throws a pick

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Speaker 2: This ain't over. Unfortunately, this is an ugly game.

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Speaker 3: This is a true divisional game right here. Let's jump

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Speaker 3: the other games just code. We might have to come

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Speaker 1: the beginning. The Bills driving in the red zone Miami

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Speaker 1: I will say that I still would have bet the Bills.

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Speaker 2: It was it was a bet we usually don't make.

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Speaker 3: Did not work out for us, But like you just said,

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Speaker 3: that didn't work out for me this week. This another game,

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Speaker 3: It's like like the number, like the spot, and we

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Speaker 1: New Orleans a Carolina Carolina minus seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: Remember when I said on Thursday we were leaning towards leaning,

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Speaker 1: we were leaning towards betting. The worst QB against the

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Speaker 3: that was that was a bad bet. Saints outdoors Divisional

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely regretted it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't even a lot of like it was

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Speaker 1: the first two drives they couldn't get into the end zone,

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Speaker 1: he always sort of throws an interception. Yeah, a good game,

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Speaker 1: far today, which is Green Bay. Man. This one, this

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Speaker 1: one hurts a lot. Yeah, because this is the game

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Speaker 3: But it was also you know, Jordan Love, I think

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Speaker 2: And now I know that Love had.

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Speaker 3: We both knew it's like, okay for them to get

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Speaker 3: I'd win on the Lions when this division.

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Speaker 2: So I wish I.

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Speaker 3: Could be happy about it, because this is a big

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Speaker 3: win if you were Allan's future bet. But now that

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Speaker 3: that one's stunk, that was a bad bet. This Lions

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Speaker 3: This was the spot, bad weather, everything kind of working

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Speaker 1: Their run game, there was a key play to me.

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Speaker 1: you rushes straight up the middle for a touchdown. Like

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Speaker 1: if you can't bet against this team when they're playing

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Speaker 3: No that I mean, we joked at the beginning of the

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Speaker 3: team is that team, right. They're this juggernaut offensively and

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Speaker 3: in a game like today, their defense can now show up.

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Speaker 3: That's why we said they aiden Hudchson was such a

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Speaker 3: big loss because it's like they finally have a pretty

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Speaker 3: believe it, like that was such a good number. That

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Speaker 3: guy dropping that touchdown. That's gonna halt me for the

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Speaker 2: But that's just those are the.

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Speaker 3: Ones that just you know, they're just brutal because you

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Speaker 3: can make the difference, and they didn't happen. And that's

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Speaker 3: unfortunately part of sports betting.

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Speaker 1: For better is like these are the nuances that matter.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Seahawks just gained another first down, back

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Speaker 1: those are those are the moments you don't forget that

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Speaker 1: Rams dropped an interception that could have ended this game. Yep,

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Speaker 2: They were dominating this whole game.

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Speaker 3: I just can't get over the fact they give the

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Speaker 3: It's just it's on the coach and you want to

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Speaker 3: like that that to make those kind of mistakes defensively

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Speaker 1: Are listen the game that may have saved our season

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, a day saving miracle from a rookie QB

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Speaker 1: coming off of a concussion on the road. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: first half was like full of all the missed opportunities

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Speaker 1: then they went on a sixteen play drive to take

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Speaker 2: No Titans, just I think he was on his own

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Speaker 1: I mean deep in his deep it like deep in

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Speaker 3: Know, Oh my god, Well they stopped him. So it's

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, you're so far ahead of me. Yeah, hold on, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on, let's watch what happens here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I already told you they're fourth and one, and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you a second.

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Speaker 3: I to kick a field goal and oh oh from

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Speaker 3: that far ahead of you, got it. So we're not

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Speaker 3: dead yet.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't if they tied, then we do lose this

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Speaker 2: back because of a tie.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Drake May fumbles the ball in his own twenty four,

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Speaker 1: the Titans score toshdown, then it's Drake May time. Simon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: How do you not be excited if you're a Newland Patriots?

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Speaker 1: Well, because he played like like he played like a

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Speaker 1: made great throws down field.

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Speaker 3: He takes on contact like an idiot, though there's a

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Speaker 3: couple of times he runs in the Guys, you're like dude,

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Speaker 3: please protect your body, Like, come.

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Speaker 1: On, okay, the Rams just call the time out.

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Speaker 2: On fourth and one.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks were going for it in this window with

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Speaker 1: the minute forty five left. I'm sure everybody saw it.

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Speaker 1: He converted two third downs, a fourth down, scrambled fifteen seconds,

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Speaker 1: gets it. He's going down. Lofts a miracle into the

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Speaker 1: end zone to remindre Stevenson touchdown. How do they not

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Speaker 1: go for two?

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Speaker 2: I don't know you.

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Speaker 3: I was screaming, like I was like a lily cursing

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Speaker 3: that guy's name. I was like, Mayo is the worst.

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Speaker 2: Coach on football. How do you not go for two?

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Speaker 1: How do you not go for two?

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Speaker 3: You got a tired defense, you have all the momentum.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense why he did that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's just an issue of he doesn't have like an

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Speaker 3: Just tell them the numbers where it's like, mathematically, that's the spot.

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Speaker 3: You're a team with nothing to lose, try to steal

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Speaker 3: the game right there. Over time, it never works out

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Speaker 3: for you. Oh my god, lad, we're not dead yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dead? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Oh my god, don't

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Speaker 1: tell me. Don't tell me, crazy, tell me, don't tell me,

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Speaker 1: don't tell me. How am I so far behind you?

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Oh my god, you didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: I'll send my guy up to you next weekend. I'll

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Speaker 2: get you on that new cable.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this, I mean, this is gonna be painful because

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Speaker 3: I'm already back and now it's like, okay, Stafford, just

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Speaker 3: get us the field goal. But man, we've we've lost

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Speaker 3: and won this game about twenty times, and I like, legit,

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Speaker 1: Bet Simon. This is exhilarating. This is why we do it.

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Speaker 1: It's why our whole community is here with us right

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Speaker 1: now to enjoy the roller coaster of emotions that we

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Speaker 1: to will the Rams to not tie this freaking game.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy. Because I rarely sweat. This is a true sweat, though,

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Speaker 2: because I need this one for today. I had some.

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Speaker 1: It was an ugly one. It was it was a

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Speaker 1: hard day. It wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: Boom Stafford, baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, listen, just do the play by play because

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Speaker 2: No, I can't relive that what you did that did.

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Speaker 1: Not just happen. He did not just throw it into

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Speaker 1: out with it. Oh my god, that was insane. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the last thing we're I do want to say, the

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Speaker 1: last thing we're going to say about the Patriots. He

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Speaker 1: should have gone for two. Yeah, Like, we may have

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Speaker 1: already gotten our miracle today because the Titans had a

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Speaker 1: twelve page drive, twelve play drive. It took seven minutes,

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Speaker 1: eight rushes. They are beating up on a defense that

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Speaker 1: you just noticed is tired. On third and two from

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Speaker 1: the seven, they're clearly going to run it in likely

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Speaker 1: get the first down. Mason Rudolph Bumble's a snap, they

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Speaker 1: Come on, Matthew, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the Patriots, I will say that number. We talked

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Speaker 3: about it though, Like, in what world should Tennessee been

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Speaker 3: if the Patriot of the worst team of football. Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad we didn't get scared off because that

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Speaker 3: I think Denver on our app had more bets or

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Speaker 3: more tickets. Yeah, but that was a game, honestly, I

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Speaker 3: love and I bet it. You could have talked me

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Speaker 3: we hopped on a call. I was like, Wow, all

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Speaker 3: the money is coming so heavy on this Patriots team.

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Speaker 3: It's still three and a half. So we definitely got

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Speaker 3: lucky on the May play. But that was also a

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Speaker 3: bad read by the sports book hanging that three and

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Speaker 1: We got very lucky. I never really thought about talking

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Speaker 1: you out of it. I will tell you. As we're

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Speaker 1: the one game I want to pick a knit is

437
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. I felt like the Chargers might have been

438
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: one of my best handicaps of the season. I had

439
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: this team nailed, and when we talked about it during

440
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: the week, betting is riding the wave and betting is

441
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: getting off the wave, and we were together, I thought

442
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: in getting off the jamis wave, like we didn't believe.

443
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Matthew Stafford going for it. That's past interference.

444
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: Anatas Staffs.

445
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that was a good handicap. Thank god we needed that.

446
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh man.

447
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. That was in

448
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: It's both insane and it never should have come down

449
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 1: to this play.

450
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: No, but it was fun ride. It's now that we won.

451
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: That was a fun ride.

452
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: That was a great ride.

453
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: And I know how much you pissed off, Matt, Matt

454
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: because just because that was terrible podcasting.

455
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: But god damn that I love it.

456
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Speaker 1: I know, Matt, you can tell us in the chat

457
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: how terrible podcasting that was. But yes, the one game

458
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: I want to pick a knit on is that Chargers game.

459
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and like the Winston thing, everything you said

460
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 3: was true.

461
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: No, they're legit.

462
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: I gotta give credit to that Chargers team. I mean,

463
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: that's that's a playoff team. Win They they went in

464
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: there and posed their will. They dominated them. Yeah, they're

465
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: a better team. I thought they're gonna be this year, honestly,

466
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: and that that was. You know, as much as I

467
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: want to give ship to uh Jamis and the Browns,

468
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: that they just played a team that just seemed better

469
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: and more prepared, right, And you know, like you said,

470
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: that was a good call by you that would be

471
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Speaker 3: a letdown spot, but it's yeah, it's a game that

472
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Speaker 3: I I honestly, I had a little bit bet on

473
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Speaker 3: the Browns. I threw them on our money line around

474
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Speaker 3: Robin part and yeah, I definitely missed the mark on

475
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: that one.

476
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Speaker 1: Just think if we had taken the Saints out instead

477
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: of the Chargers, we'd be sitting here at three and

478
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: two on the day instead of two and three.

479
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: No, A, yeah, No, there's a couple of bad ones.

480
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean the one that really sticks stuck out was

481
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: like I don't know how we both got sucked back

482
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: into Dallas Like I was on Atlanta, I know, been

483
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: Atlanta minus two and a half, and then once I

484
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: got to three and a half Dallas, it was like, Okay,

485
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: this is too much.

486
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: The value shifted a three and a half of this

487
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 2: Dallas team and it's like, no, that was properly numbered.

488
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: That was that was a bad read.

489
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, this week I feel luckier in our senior

490
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: two and three because it could have been easily zero

491
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: and five. But I told you before the show, I'm

492
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm selfish. I feel like we should have been four

493
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: and one. Sou of all the games that the worst

494
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: bet to me was that, like you just said, that Saints.

495
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: Game was Look, I feel like this is the most

496
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: exciting two and three. When is the last time we

497
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: had a two and three that landed on a h

498
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: a one handed catch in overtime to win the game

499
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: and a fifteen second scramble to tie the game and

500
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: then getting a fumble to and forcing the field goal

501
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: so we cover by the hook. This might have been

502
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: the day where we ate up a lot of the

503
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: good will, so we were owed.

504
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: I told you it was going to go the other

505
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: way eventually, like we just even today, we still had

506
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: a lot of bullshit go the other way.

507
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: But that's just betting.

508
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: But no, I can't wait to break down these upcoming

509
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: lines the next week because it feels like there's a

510
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of teams that, like you just said,

511
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna get value on just because they were gonna

512
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: they were so unlucky, and then the luck rankings are

513
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: going to reflect that this upcoming week.

514
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Speaker 1: Favorites were twelve and one straight up this week.

515
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, terrible day for the money liner on Robin.

516
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: All right, So some early lines and some early lines

517
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Speaker 1: to me, one that stood out right away Tennessee Titans

518
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: are nine and a half point underdogs to the Los

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. That Titans defense is just good. I know

520
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: they're on the road.

521
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: S already down to seven and a half.

522
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. I guess I was right,

523
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: very sharp. All right, Well that was run one. I

524
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: think we'll still talk about it. Seven and a half

525
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: still feels really high to me. You're still getting the

526
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: hook at the seven. What did you think of Denver

527
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: nine and a half of Kansas City.

528
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't I don't hate it, like I don't mind

529
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: bending it right now if you want to. But I

530
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: think we saw a little bit of what this Denver

531
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: team can be right today against this Ravens team. That

532
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 3: they are young, they are in experience, they have been

533
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: playing some bad teams, and it seems like what.

534
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: Things are going good. They're able to beat up on

535
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: these bad teams.

536
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't rush the better because if if, if

537
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: the Chiefs roll, if they absolutely roll the Bucks tomorrow,

538
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: you might be able to get ten.

539
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: Like there's no no, there's no one other.

540
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Than us coming back on this this Buccaneers team, right,

541
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the public is going to be totally off

542
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: of them after this, after last week.

543
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: So that's a number.

544
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: I don't think you need a rush to gain, but

545
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: I do like your heads out where it's like, you know,

546
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: if this number gets that high in this divisional game,

547
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: that's that's gonna reach a point of value for this

548
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Denver team.

549
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh two and a half point underdogs against the Washington Commanders.

550
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: That's it. That feels either like the absolute right play

551
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: to get a mock Mike Tomlin ra ra as a

552
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: dog to take on this young whipper snapper quarterback like

553
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: that is the perfect smash spot for this Steelers defense.

554
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: It is.

555
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: But like I get if you were gonna be pisseding

556
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: me because I was so high on the Giants team

557
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: because it was the same thing last year where it

558
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: was like a good spot.

559
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: But you're exactly right, like this Pittsburgh.

560
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: Team is much better than that Giants team, and defensively

561
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: there are ways they can attack this Washing team that's

562
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: gonna give them problems. But I'm not gonna lie to

563
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Chad Jaden Daniels a scary man, Like I thought today

564
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: he wouldn't play that well and he just had a

565
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: couple of moments that are just so it's just so

566
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: incredible that we're, like you just said, we're into week

567
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: nine here and he's still playing at this veteran high level,

568
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: Like he hasn't hit that rookie wall like you saw.

569
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: You watch a lot of the bear say of Kayler Williams.

570
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: He's incredibly talented kid, but there's moments where he looks

571
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: like a rookie that is normal, that should be happening

572
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: to a rookie, and the kid Jane Daniels doesn't have

573
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: these moments like he breaks a lot of the rules.

574
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, and I know that I wouldn't be

575
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: praising him as hard as I would be if we

576
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: got that two pointer and got the cover. But they're

577
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: about to walk in for another touchdown end of that game.

578
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: This easy come in a double digital blowout by Washington

579
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: if they had chose so.

580
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I'll be on Pittsburgh.

581
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: But this is another line that it's two and a

582
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: half right now. Doesn't the Joe public come in heavy

583
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: on Washington here? I mean, you get the three.

584
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. So sometimes when we're having this conversation, it's not

585
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: so much are we going to bet it right now?

586
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: It's sort of which way are we leaning?

587
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? What would be the.

588
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: Indicators to make us say, hey we want to hold,

589
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Hey we want to get this right now.

590
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

591
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: I would hold because I actually like I like Pittsburgh

592
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: and I want to take them here.

593
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: But it's like.

594
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: This jumps out is going to be eighty percent of

595
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: the money eight percent. Tickets are going to come in

596
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: here on Washington, like at two and a half. That's

597
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: going to be a really huge public play this upcoming week.

598
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the second it gets to three, it's going

599
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: to be there for thirty seconds and be gone.

600
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You shine though, put you're alerts

601
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: on getting the action.

602
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: Everyone, get into the Action Network app, turn on your

603
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: line alerts for the Steelers US three. Just be ready,

604
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta be awake. You gotta have eight phones

605
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: that will wake you up. The second it goes, it happens,

606
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: because it's going to happen at about two thirty am tonight,

607
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: that's when it's gonna happen. I got two other games

608
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: and then I want you to tell me years before

609
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: we get out of here.

610
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Jack game mind. I can't wait.

611
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Jags plus five and a half Minnesota.

612
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: Uhh that's a big that's a big number. So yeah,

613
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: I looked the Jags up off I guess right away.

614
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: I like the Jags, but it's another game where tonight

615
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Vikings roll, we'll get a six.

616
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

617
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: So like I liked that the books are hanging these

618
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: these numbers where they know they know which way the

619
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: like they're hanging these known which way the pulk's gonna

620
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: come early on here, and that's this is definitely an

621
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Speaker 3: enticing number. I mean, this is going to be an

622
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: easily a tease down number. Why would you not tease

623
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 3: the Vikings down? They're the better team. Jaguars do not

624
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: know to close out games like they should have won

625
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: today against the Eagles. Trevor Lawrence at all the momentum,

626
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Eagles defenses on their heels, they were exhausted, and he

627
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: threw a gift of an inner. We talk all the

628
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: time about these high draft picks, like some of the

629
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: guys just have it and some guys don't.

630
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: And it's clear he does not have it.

631
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the game winning drive gene. No, he's

632
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: got the good garbage time gene.

633
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: That's why again, the Drake maything was so exciting it's like,

634
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: who cares if his whole season's terrible. You just saw

635
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: him run a two minute drill, guys in his face,

636
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: back foot throwing a dime in the corner of the

637
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: end zone. Like that's not coachable. That's God given talent

638
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: and living up to the moment. And Trevor Lawrence is

639
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: with the opposite of that.

640
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: He just has not lived up to the moment in

641
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: any sense of the word.

642
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: In some weird, arcane world of the of the internet,

643
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: somebody needs to reassess that Jaggs come back win against

644
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers in the playoffs and see how much of

645
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: it was Brandon Staley being a terrible coach and not

646
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: knowing how to hold a lead and Jacksonville playing great

647
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: and doing miraculous things and Trevor Lawrence showing for a

648
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: moment he might have it. Because that game is sort

649
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: of the example that everyone uses when they say what

650
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: about that game? And so that game should be reassessed

651
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: if you're going to be thinking about what Trevor Lawrence

652
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: is for the rest of his career. The last game

653
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: on my list, Yes, sir Houston plus three and a half, Detroit.

654
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: Already up to four and a half.

655
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're gonna have to talk about because I

656
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: feel like we can't do it. I mean, we just

657
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Speaker 3: saw last Thursday. He's gotten no receivers in Houston right

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Speaker 3: now and his offensive line can't block anybody. Like I

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Speaker 3: don't know if this is enough movement for this Houston side,

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Speaker 3: but I want to be on Houston. So yeah, give

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Speaker 3: me the six and a half and I feel like

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Speaker 3: I'm all in. But at this timer, I'm still tempted, honest.

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Speaker 2: To go Detroit.

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Speaker 1: All right, tell me what you got, all right?

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Speaker 2: First one.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's just I know you're gonna hate it,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like we have to do it. Saints

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Speaker 3: plus three at home against Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I looked at that, and how do we not sell

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Speaker 2: on Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: I looked at that.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not gonna rush to take it because

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Speaker 3: I want to see you if Olave is going to

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Speaker 3: be able to be back this week.

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Speaker 1: If it meant so much to have a Lave not

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Speaker 1: be in the game against the Panthers, it's going to

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Speaker 1: mean more to not have him in the game against

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. I know you'll be able to scheme all

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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: week because he won't be in. But they don't have

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Speaker 1: any weapons, and.

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Speaker 3: Drake Lennon might be out of this game as well

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Speaker 3: for Atlanta, so that could cancer shother out. But that

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Speaker 3: that's just a very enticing number, that number at plus three.

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Speaker 3: The next one is, I mean the Eagles are minus

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Speaker 3: seven on the road in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't know if dak is going to play.

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Speaker 2: Left the game with it.

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Speaker 1: He left, then the Eagles are.

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Speaker 3: Going to be out with aj Aj Brown. So Sakuan

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00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: got a little banged up in this game. Like it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot to love with that Dallas number and

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Speaker 3: just how big it is a game I didn't bet.

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Speaker 3: I just want to get your your opinion on Monday

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00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: night or the Rams are minus two and a half

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Speaker 3: against on Miami team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we grab that now.

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Speaker 1: I saw that and like honestly.

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Speaker 3: I know we just feel like we got away with

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00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: one there. But like, yeah, we talked that we two

700
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: is not good against good teams and this ye, this

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: Rams team, as much you want to give them ship

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Speaker 3: for this was a complete team win today. Like that

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00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: was That's what good teams do. They win games they

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: shouldn't win.

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Speaker 1: So there were two reasons why I didn't bring it up.

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00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: One was I already saw us looking at Houston, and

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Speaker 1: so I was nervous about bringing up two back to

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Speaker 1: back primetime games Sunday night Monday night, and I was

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00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: waiting on to see what happened with the end of

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to grab it. Just got I

712
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: think that number goes up to three. So I just

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00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: want to grab the two and a half.

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00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: Look, this NFC West is fascinating right now. The Cardinals

716
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: are five and four, looking better every game. I mean

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00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: the Bears are tragic, like what happened to them today,

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00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: just a missi mash of continued undisciplined play and today

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00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: it was all.

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Speaker 2: They just we talked about.

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Speaker 3: Though they're a young team, that's a lot to overcome

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Speaker 3: in a week. I mean, even you joked it's hard

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Speaker 3: for you to get it off your mind, and you're

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Speaker 3: a grown ass man. Imagine being a twenty something kid.

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00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's tough to move past that. You

726
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: really do need to be a veteran team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been with the Bears longer, so it

728
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: should take me longer get over it. Like these guys,

729
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: they just got there. They might not even be their

730
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: next year. I can guarantee you the coach isn't going

731
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Speaker 1: to be there next year. So I'm surprised the coach

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00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: got on the freaking plane because the reason they lost

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00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: this game is because of the defense. The defense was

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Speaker 1: truly terrible. The defense against run was awful. By the way,

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00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: what did Kyler Murray end up at?

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Speaker 2: A way under? Way? Under?

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Speaker 1: Way under? So it was like you nailed that. You

738
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Speaker 1: were on convinced me today. You said take Kyler under

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00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: two fifteen and a half. He ended up at one

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00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: sixty or whatever. He had sixty five in the first half.

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00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: Great call by Simon on Kyler Murray under. So I

742
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: don't feel like we have consensus on anything tonight, which

743
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: is fine. We don't have to make bets.

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: Really, you don't love that rams bet.

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00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, we have the rams bet. That's it. I

746
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: think that's the only one. I kind of like. I

747
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: think I like Tennessee more than you do because I

748
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: don't think the Chargers are going to play the kind

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Speaker 1: of game where it's an automatic blowout some of the things.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, But I told you the key the Chargers, though,

751
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: is they make you make the mistake Mason Ruolph will

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: LEVI us they love to make mistakes, so like that,

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Speaker 3: that's just my hesitation with that big number because this

754
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: plays into what the Chargers want teams to do. It's

755
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: like they just wear these guys out and they just

756
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: wait for it, and once you make the mistake, the

757
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: game's over, right. They every time they win, they win

758
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: the turnover battle. That's the type of team they've been

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Speaker 3: this season.

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Speaker 1: Ye all, are we missing anything else? No?

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Speaker 3: I mean I have two more games I want to

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Speaker 3: talk about, but then I don't want to run through

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Speaker 3: every game. We got to make sure that people come

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Speaker 3: and check us out Tuesday. So I'm excited to talk.

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Speaker 2: More about it.

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Speaker 3: But like that Ravens, they're minus six right now against

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. I'm gonna take the plus six like Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow against that defense. If you want to grab that

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: number early with me, I'll grab that now because I

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: think that number goes down as well. That's just too

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Speaker 3: good passing offenses.

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