1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:08,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I heart radio. 2 00:00:24,155 --> 00:00:27,715 Speaker 1: His words to John Eastman were get a great eff 3 00:00:27,755 --> 00:00:30,555 Speaker 1: and criminal defense lawyer. You're going to need it. His 4 00:00:30,675 --> 00:00:33,715 Speaker 1: words to Donald Trump might as well have been get 5 00:00:33,755 --> 00:00:36,275 Speaker 1: a great eff and criminal defense lawyer. You're going to 6 00:00:36,315 --> 00:00:41,155 Speaker 1: need it. Eric Hershman may have just kept America's Hitler 7 00:00:41,515 --> 00:00:45,955 Speaker 1: from ever holding office again. Hershman may have also sent 8 00:00:46,035 --> 00:00:49,035 Speaker 1: him to jail. At minimum, he is likely to have 9 00:00:49,115 --> 00:00:52,235 Speaker 1: forced him to go to trial after all. And if 10 00:00:52,275 --> 00:00:55,395 Speaker 1: Hershman has not done enough to do these things, trump's 11 00:00:55,475 --> 00:01:00,395 Speaker 1: own hubris may have provided the final push. Hershman, in fact, 12 00:01:00,955 --> 00:01:04,755 Speaker 1: may have turned out to be, sorry John, the on 13 00:01:05,035 --> 00:01:09,155 Speaker 1: Deane of this disastrous presidency, only with profanity, plus a 14 00:01:09,195 --> 00:01:13,315 Speaker 1: baseball backed on his wall emblazoned with the Word Justice. 15 00:01:13,675 --> 00:01:17,075 Speaker 1: The New York Times last night quoted three unnamed sources, 16 00:01:17,115 --> 00:01:19,275 Speaker 1: and how at least one of them isn't Hershman is 17 00:01:19,275 --> 00:01:23,515 Speaker 1: a theoretical impossibility. Who say Hershman, the former trump attorney, 18 00:01:23,835 --> 00:01:28,395 Speaker 1: personally warned trump late last year, two thousand twenty one, 19 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:31,835 Speaker 1: that trump had to return the government materials he had 20 00:01:31,875 --> 00:01:34,475 Speaker 1: taken when he left the White House or he would 21 00:01:34,515 --> 00:01:39,795 Speaker 1: face serious legal jeopardy and multiple investigations. In the search warrant, 22 00:01:39,835 --> 00:01:43,435 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice got to search Marilago for the 23 00:01:43,515 --> 00:01:47,515 Speaker 1: stuff stolen by the nuclear KLEPTOMANIAC. There was a specific 24 00:01:47,595 --> 00:01:53,115 Speaker 1: citation that evidence suggested America's Hitler had violated eighteen US code, 25 00:01:53,115 --> 00:01:57,075 Speaker 1: two oh seven one, the espionage act, the taking and 26 00:01:57,155 --> 00:02:00,715 Speaker 1: keeping of national security documents and two oh seven one 27 00:02:00,795 --> 00:02:07,555 Speaker 1: hinges on one word. Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals removes 28 00:02:07,755 --> 00:02:10,915 Speaker 1: the same shall be fined under this title or imprisoned 29 00:02:10,915 --> 00:02:13,915 Speaker 1: not more than three years or both, and shall forfeit 30 00:02:14,035 --> 00:02:18,755 Speaker 1: his office and be disqualified from holding any office under 31 00:02:18,915 --> 00:02:24,515 Speaker 1: the United States wilfully. Hershman, according to the times quote, 32 00:02:24,555 --> 00:02:27,395 Speaker 1: warned trump late last year that Mr trump could face 33 00:02:27,475 --> 00:02:30,835 Speaker 1: legal liability if he did not return government materials he 34 00:02:30,875 --> 00:02:33,555 Speaker 1: had taken with him when he left office. Hirshman sought 35 00:02:33,635 --> 00:02:37,075 Speaker 1: to impress upon Mr Trump the seriousness of the issue 36 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:40,555 Speaker 1: and the potential for investigations and legal exposures if he 37 00:02:40,595 --> 00:02:47,155 Speaker 1: did not return the documents, particularly any classified material. If 38 00:02:47,235 --> 00:02:51,675 Speaker 1: Hershman told trump something like return those classified documents or 39 00:02:51,715 --> 00:02:56,115 Speaker 1: they'll investigate and prosecute you, and trump ignored him and 40 00:02:56,235 --> 00:03:00,915 Speaker 1: kept most of them anyway. That is the legal definition 41 00:03:01,155 --> 00:03:08,315 Speaker 1: of willfully trump is their force growed? Moreover, The Times 42 00:03:08,315 --> 00:03:11,435 Speaker 1: reported last Friday that Herschman, quote, has been summoned to 43 00:03:11,595 --> 00:03:15,955 Speaker 1: testify to a federal grand jury and, as his testimony 44 00:03:15,955 --> 00:03:19,435 Speaker 1: about John Eastman to the House January six committee showed, 45 00:03:19,955 --> 00:03:22,275 Speaker 1: he has been willing to tell the truth about trump 46 00:03:22,275 --> 00:03:24,675 Speaker 1: and his co conspirators, even though Hershman was one of 47 00:03:24,675 --> 00:03:28,915 Speaker 1: trump's many lawyers during one of trump's many impeachments. And, 48 00:03:28,995 --> 00:03:33,395 Speaker 1: as suggested before, whatever damaged trump did to himself by 49 00:03:33,435 --> 00:03:37,715 Speaker 1: ignoring Hershman's advice has been compounded by what in retrospect 50 00:03:37,715 --> 00:03:40,315 Speaker 1: looks like a really bad guest by trump and his 51 00:03:40,435 --> 00:03:44,515 Speaker 1: latest lawyers, that the semi retired Brooklyn Judge Raymond Deary, 52 00:03:44,555 --> 00:03:47,555 Speaker 1: the one they nominated to be special master in this case, 53 00:03:48,075 --> 00:03:50,995 Speaker 1: was a skeptic of FBI methods and because he was 54 00:03:51,035 --> 00:03:54,155 Speaker 1: appointed by Reagan, he would do trump's bidding for him 55 00:03:54,195 --> 00:03:58,915 Speaker 1: the way that glorified Florida paralegal temp Eileen Cannon has. Instead, 56 00:03:59,475 --> 00:04:02,715 Speaker 1: even before the lawyers for trump and the lawyers from 57 00:04:02,715 --> 00:04:06,235 Speaker 1: the Justice Department got into his courtroom for a preliminary 58 00:04:06,275 --> 00:04:10,315 Speaker 1: hearing Tuesday, Judge Derry had already made a stunning demand. 59 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:14,075 Speaker 1: He wants to know from the trump side quote specific 60 00:04:14,195 --> 00:04:18,315 Speaker 1: information regarding declassification and give it to the court and 61 00:04:18,355 --> 00:04:21,075 Speaker 1: to the government. That's how trump's attorneys phrased it in 62 00:04:21,115 --> 00:04:24,715 Speaker 1: their response. It may seem simple common sense to you 63 00:04:24,755 --> 00:04:28,435 Speaker 1: if trump's principal defense for his theft of ultra secret 64 00:04:28,515 --> 00:04:32,555 Speaker 1: classified government documents is that he declassified some of them 65 00:04:32,675 --> 00:04:34,875 Speaker 1: or most of them, or all of them or all 66 00:04:34,915 --> 00:04:37,155 Speaker 1: of them everywhere in the universe. Judge Derry wants to 67 00:04:37,155 --> 00:04:42,115 Speaker 1: know which documents are declassified and when trump declassified them. 68 00:04:42,195 --> 00:04:45,755 Speaker 1: But the trump lawyers seemed stunned by this. They say 69 00:04:45,755 --> 00:04:48,555 Speaker 1: they can't do it. If trump is indicted, they say 70 00:04:48,595 --> 00:04:52,755 Speaker 1: those declassification details will be the basis of his defense. 71 00:04:53,195 --> 00:04:56,355 Speaker 1: And now the special master wants them to spell their 72 00:04:56,435 --> 00:05:00,755 Speaker 1: defense out word by word to the prosecution. In other words, 73 00:05:00,835 --> 00:05:04,275 Speaker 1: deary recognized something that trump appointee cannon did not or 74 00:05:04,315 --> 00:05:08,755 Speaker 1: would not that trump's entire defense is based on this premise. 75 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:12,795 Speaker 1: Keep your cake and eat it too. If your defense 76 00:05:13,075 --> 00:05:17,195 Speaker 1: is these classified documents are my documents and not the governments, 77 00:05:17,355 --> 00:05:20,395 Speaker 1: and they're my documents because I de classified them. You 78 00:05:20,435 --> 00:05:22,715 Speaker 1: cannot then say, but I won't tell you which are 79 00:05:22,755 --> 00:05:25,035 Speaker 1: the ones I'd declassified, nor when I did it, so 80 00:05:25,115 --> 00:05:27,555 Speaker 1: you can check the records to see if I'm not lying. 81 00:05:28,715 --> 00:05:33,075 Speaker 1: And Derry continued to drop bonus flavorings into trump's punch bowl. 82 00:05:33,435 --> 00:05:36,955 Speaker 1: The special master process that the trump people wanted extended 83 00:05:36,995 --> 00:05:41,195 Speaker 1: through novemb declared had been extended through then. deary wants 84 00:05:41,195 --> 00:05:44,595 Speaker 1: it wrapped up by October. Seven and is if it 85 00:05:44,715 --> 00:05:47,435 Speaker 1: needed to get worse for trump, derry also slapped them 86 00:05:47,475 --> 00:05:51,875 Speaker 1: around for judge shopping. deary demanded that the trump team 87 00:05:51,915 --> 00:05:54,435 Speaker 1: explained why, if they say the government has to give 88 00:05:54,435 --> 00:05:58,875 Speaker 1: trump back documents because trump's fourth amendment rights against unreasonable 89 00:05:58,875 --> 00:06:02,515 Speaker 1: search and seizure were violated, why those fourth amendment claims 90 00:06:02,955 --> 00:06:06,075 Speaker 1: are in judge deery's lap rather than in the lap 91 00:06:06,115 --> 00:06:10,955 Speaker 1: of the original judge, Bruce Reinhardt, who signed the search warrant, or, 92 00:06:11,035 --> 00:06:14,755 Speaker 1: as one of the cracked trump team called him, judge reinhold. 93 00:06:15,235 --> 00:06:18,675 Speaker 1: Trump still on a high from crossing the Rubicon on 94 00:06:18,715 --> 00:06:21,755 Speaker 1: Saturday in Ohio and fully embracing q and on then 95 00:06:21,755 --> 00:06:26,475 Speaker 1: threatening violent revolution and now having q musach playing behind him. 96 00:06:26,555 --> 00:06:30,235 Speaker 1: During his speeches of dribble, seemed unconcerned by the sudden 97 00:06:30,235 --> 00:06:33,235 Speaker 1: reversal of the legal momentum. In his case. All he 98 00:06:33,275 --> 00:06:37,635 Speaker 1: was worried about yesterday was where President Biden was seated 99 00:06:37,715 --> 00:06:41,035 Speaker 1: at the funeral service for Queen Elizabeth. But even his 100 00:06:41,155 --> 00:06:44,035 Speaker 1: protest on social media turned out to be a disaster 101 00:06:44,155 --> 00:06:47,035 Speaker 1: for him. This is what's happened to America in just 102 00:06:47,155 --> 00:06:50,115 Speaker 1: two short years. No respect, he posted, along with a 103 00:06:50,155 --> 00:06:52,675 Speaker 1: picture of Biden seated near the back of the church. 104 00:06:52,755 --> 00:06:56,195 Speaker 1: If I were president, they wouldn't have sat me back there, 105 00:06:56,515 --> 00:06:59,555 Speaker 1: Baby Hitler, ignoring four facts. One, he wrote if I 106 00:06:59,715 --> 00:07:03,915 Speaker 1: were President and also referred to Biden as our president, 107 00:07:04,275 --> 00:07:09,555 Speaker 1: thus infirming he trump ain't president. Two, wherever Biden and 108 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:12,875 Speaker 1: the other world leaders were sitting, they were invited and 109 00:07:12,915 --> 00:07:16,675 Speaker 1: he wasn't, and he reminded us of that. Three, no, 110 00:07:16,835 --> 00:07:20,115 Speaker 1: he was not invited, but the actress Sandra Oh and 111 00:07:20,195 --> 00:07:24,035 Speaker 1: Olympic swimmer mark Tewksbury were, and they were in Westminster 112 00:07:24,075 --> 00:07:28,875 Speaker 1: Abbey with the Canadian contingent. And Four, and finally, you 113 00:07:28,915 --> 00:07:31,555 Speaker 1: know when they give you the best seat at a funeral. 114 00:07:33,035 --> 00:07:35,435 Speaker 1: Think about it. While we wait to see if today 115 00:07:35,515 --> 00:07:38,355 Speaker 1: is the funeral for trump's aspirations to seize power in 116 00:07:38,395 --> 00:07:41,875 Speaker 1: a coup or a crooked election, or otherwise the guy 117 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:45,515 Speaker 1: behind him in the Republican packing order of who was 118 00:07:45,555 --> 00:07:48,395 Speaker 1: the biggest scumbag we can find. Let's make him president, 119 00:07:48,675 --> 00:07:52,155 Speaker 1: may now be facing his own legal mess, as suggested here. 120 00:07:52,195 --> 00:07:55,955 Speaker 1: As this story broke, the sheriff of Bear County, Texas, 121 00:07:55,955 --> 00:07:58,635 Speaker 1: said last night he not only believes the ran de 122 00:07:58,795 --> 00:08:02,515 Speaker 1: santist kidnapping of forty eight people merely seeking asylum in 123 00:08:02,555 --> 00:08:06,635 Speaker 1: this country saw state laws oken within his jurisdiction, but 124 00:08:06,755 --> 00:08:11,635 Speaker 1: that parallel federal laws were also violated. Jabier Salazar says 125 00:08:11,675 --> 00:08:14,395 Speaker 1: that it is his information that a Venezuel and migrant 126 00:08:14,435 --> 00:08:17,715 Speaker 1: was paid a quote bird dog fee to round up 127 00:08:17,755 --> 00:08:19,995 Speaker 1: migrants from a center in San Antonio to become the 128 00:08:20,075 --> 00:08:23,675 Speaker 1: victims in the de santis outrage. A county judge there 129 00:08:23,755 --> 00:08:26,195 Speaker 1: summed it up. If you think about what smugglers do, 130 00:08:26,315 --> 00:08:30,115 Speaker 1: it's not much different. This follow John Legam of popular 131 00:08:30,195 --> 00:08:34,515 Speaker 1: information obtaining a copy of an official looking brochure that 132 00:08:34,635 --> 00:08:37,355 Speaker 1: several of the victims say they were handed before they 133 00:08:37,355 --> 00:08:40,955 Speaker 1: got on the plane to Martha's Vineyard. It's titled Massachusetts 134 00:08:40,955 --> 00:08:45,435 Speaker 1: Refugee Benefits and Features two photographs of a Massachusetts welcomes 135 00:08:45,475 --> 00:08:52,795 Speaker 1: you highway sign. Brochure also promises assistance with Housing, food, clothing, 136 00:08:52,955 --> 00:08:56,995 Speaker 1: job placement, job training, transportation to job interviews, applying for 137 00:08:57,035 --> 00:09:01,555 Speaker 1: social security cards, registering children for school, and quote eight 138 00:09:01,635 --> 00:09:05,995 Speaker 1: months cash assistants. Whether or not the arrogant and clever 139 00:09:06,075 --> 00:09:09,595 Speaker 1: but ultimately stupid dissentist goes to prison for this is 140 00:09:09,635 --> 00:09:12,915 Speaker 1: at best guesswork. That Texas judge says, if it turns 141 00:09:12,915 --> 00:09:15,915 Speaker 1: out things were done wrong, he could be held responsible. 142 00:09:16,115 --> 00:09:20,395 Speaker 1: He instigated it, but whoever made that brochure and used 143 00:09:20,435 --> 00:09:23,275 Speaker 1: it to lure the migrants to become victims of human 144 00:09:23,315 --> 00:09:29,155 Speaker 1: trafficking in America, they are going to prison, and tell them, 145 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:32,235 Speaker 1: while they are there, to say hi to trump. For 146 00:09:32,355 --> 00:09:45,115 Speaker 1: US still ahead on countdown. You can't forgive student debt. 147 00:09:45,195 --> 00:09:47,315 Speaker 1: Could do that. Where are we gonna find kids desperate 148 00:09:47,395 --> 00:09:49,675 Speaker 1: enough to sign up for the army? It's not me 149 00:09:49,795 --> 00:09:54,315 Speaker 1: being snarky. That is a republican congressman being way too 150 00:09:54,395 --> 00:09:57,635 Speaker 1: honest for his own good. Where's the head of the 151 00:09:57,675 --> 00:10:00,675 Speaker 1: striking football players? Well, he's at there in the kitchen. 152 00:10:00,675 --> 00:10:04,355 Speaker 1: He's drinking from a hose. Obviously, things I promised not 153 00:10:04,435 --> 00:10:08,755 Speaker 1: to hell takes you back to September and the fabled 154 00:10:08,795 --> 00:10:12,755 Speaker 1: ill Vagabundo restaurant in New York City. And if they 155 00:10:12,795 --> 00:10:15,395 Speaker 1: are burying the Queen after ten days and the camera 156 00:10:15,475 --> 00:10:17,875 Speaker 1: zooms in in the casket and the flowers that were 157 00:10:17,955 --> 00:10:20,955 Speaker 1: left there by your son, and you can also see 158 00:10:20,995 --> 00:10:24,195 Speaker 1: the card he wrote and left with the flowers and 159 00:10:24,235 --> 00:10:28,515 Speaker 1: you can also see uh spider crawling on the card. 160 00:10:29,515 --> 00:10:40,715 Speaker 1: Is that a bad sign? That's next this discountdown. This 161 00:10:40,875 --> 00:10:48,115 Speaker 1: is countdown with Keith Olberman still coming up. On countdown. 162 00:10:48,155 --> 00:10:51,315 Speaker 1: The National Football League Players Association was on strike. There 163 00:10:51,355 --> 00:10:55,715 Speaker 1: were no NFL Games. The president of this union was 164 00:10:55,795 --> 00:10:58,635 Speaker 1: on the cover of time and Newsweek and he was 165 00:10:58,755 --> 00:11:01,875 Speaker 1: one of my dinner guests, except he had disappeared and 166 00:11:01,915 --> 00:11:04,475 Speaker 1: I could see him in the restaurant kitchen bending over 167 00:11:04,475 --> 00:11:07,395 Speaker 1: one of the big sinks. Things I promised not to 168 00:11:07,395 --> 00:11:10,235 Speaker 1: tell coming up, along with worse persons. First, in each 169 00:11:10,395 --> 00:11:13,355 Speaker 1: edition of countdown we feature a dog in need whom 170 00:11:13,395 --> 00:11:16,275 Speaker 1: you can help. Every dog has its day. They found 171 00:11:16,275 --> 00:11:20,595 Speaker 1: Coulson on the streets of Philadelphia, ordinary Brown and white dogs, soulful, 172 00:11:20,755 --> 00:11:24,075 Speaker 1: Light Brown eyes. Only after several days at a shelter. 173 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:26,675 Speaker 1: There did they discover the broken ribs and the FEMUR, 174 00:11:27,155 --> 00:11:30,235 Speaker 1: all at different stages of healing, proving not only that 175 00:11:30,315 --> 00:11:34,235 Speaker 1: somebody beat him, but did so on multiple occasions. Happily, 176 00:11:34,315 --> 00:11:38,315 Speaker 1: Coulson's physical scars can be healed by surgery and outcast 177 00:11:38,395 --> 00:11:41,035 Speaker 1: rescue is raising the funds for that surgery on cuddly. 178 00:11:41,395 --> 00:11:44,315 Speaker 1: If you'd like to help, go to cuddlely search, outcast 179 00:11:44,475 --> 00:11:47,275 Speaker 1: rescue or Coulson, or just go to my twitter feed 180 00:11:47,275 --> 00:11:49,835 Speaker 1: for dogs in trouble, Tom Jumbo GRUMBO dot com, and 181 00:11:49,915 --> 00:11:52,315 Speaker 1: see the tweet I did for Coulson. And thank you 182 00:11:52,395 --> 00:12:07,075 Speaker 1: very much. I'm up on countdown. You can't forgive student debt. 183 00:12:07,355 --> 00:12:10,435 Speaker 1: If you forgave student debt, why would any kid be 184 00:12:10,515 --> 00:12:14,115 Speaker 1: stupid enough to choose the military over college? It's not 185 00:12:14,235 --> 00:12:17,795 Speaker 1: me saying this, that's a republican congressman saying it in 186 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:22,515 Speaker 1: worse persons ahead. First postscripts to the news. Some headlines, 187 00:12:22,595 --> 00:12:34,515 Speaker 1: some thoughts, a little snark. Dateline conquered New Hampshire. Incumbent 188 00:12:34,555 --> 00:12:37,795 Speaker 1: Democrat Maggie Hassan indicated much of her Senate re election 189 00:12:37,875 --> 00:12:40,755 Speaker 1: campaign would be about the repeal of Roe v Wade 190 00:12:41,075 --> 00:12:45,275 Speaker 1: and women's rights in her state. Her Fringe Republican Fascist opponent, 191 00:12:45,355 --> 00:12:49,115 Speaker 1: Don bull duck blasted this, saying she just wants to 192 00:12:49,155 --> 00:12:51,875 Speaker 1: hang on with dear life. Well, guess what, your views 193 00:12:51,915 --> 00:12:55,115 Speaker 1: are not consistent with the average granite state or number one, 194 00:12:55,555 --> 00:12:59,555 Speaker 1: number two. Get over it. This is about the economy 195 00:13:00,115 --> 00:13:03,555 Speaker 1: within ours. Senator hasn't had launched a digital ad called 196 00:13:04,155 --> 00:13:07,875 Speaker 1: won't get over it. The John Federman campaign is paying 197 00:13:07,875 --> 00:13:10,555 Speaker 1: off in other states. Remember, Democrats, the last thing the 198 00:13:10,595 --> 00:13:13,395 Speaker 1: Republicans expect is for you to hit back. So hit 199 00:13:13,435 --> 00:13:17,155 Speaker 1: them back right in the Charlie's dateline Washington. A lot 200 00:13:17,155 --> 00:13:19,835 Speaker 1: of damnedest things have happened in politics over the last 201 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:23,835 Speaker 1: ten years, but among the damnedest the formerly ultra far 202 00:13:23,995 --> 00:13:27,675 Speaker 1: right reactionary group, the US Chamber of Commerce, went green, 203 00:13:28,315 --> 00:13:32,875 Speaker 1: encouraging the E S G investment sector, environmental, social and governance, 204 00:13:33,075 --> 00:13:36,075 Speaker 1: in the words of a chamber veep. Today, for many companies, 205 00:13:36,115 --> 00:13:40,115 Speaker 1: climate change on carbon emissions impact long term value, thereby 206 00:13:40,235 --> 00:13:44,755 Speaker 1: becoming a factor that retirement fund managers should take into consideration. 207 00:13:45,275 --> 00:13:47,755 Speaker 1: These guys used to devote their time to trying to 208 00:13:47,835 --> 00:13:53,235 Speaker 1: repeal obamacare and increase pollution. Because they've switched because they've 209 00:13:53,235 --> 00:13:58,235 Speaker 1: correctly noticed that environmentally friendly investing cannot only increase profits 210 00:13:58,275 --> 00:14:00,195 Speaker 1: but also increase the chance that there'll still be a 211 00:14:00,195 --> 00:14:03,235 Speaker 1: planet on which to spend your profit. The website the 212 00:14:03,315 --> 00:14:07,075 Speaker 1: intercept quotes an Anonymo Republican congressman who says if they 213 00:14:07,115 --> 00:14:10,435 Speaker 1: take the house in November, the GOP will have its 214 00:14:10,555 --> 00:14:15,475 Speaker 1: judiciary committee run a show trial investigation of the US 215 00:14:15,635 --> 00:14:18,995 Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce. Says the congressman. How is it again 216 00:14:19,035 --> 00:14:22,275 Speaker 1: that you can discourage investment in American energy? How can 217 00:14:22,355 --> 00:14:25,435 Speaker 1: somebody actually be duty of care to the shareholders of 218 00:14:25,475 --> 00:14:28,715 Speaker 1: one entity when your duty of care to the Chinese 219 00:14:28,755 --> 00:14:33,195 Speaker 1: Communist Party's controlled energy company? I'd mentioned to this congressman, 220 00:14:33,195 --> 00:14:36,315 Speaker 1: whoever he is, that he should probably picture his grandchildren 221 00:14:36,555 --> 00:14:38,915 Speaker 1: choking to death in a hundred and thirty eight degree 222 00:14:38,955 --> 00:14:42,075 Speaker 1: temperatures or freezing in a thirty seven inch snowstorm in 223 00:14:42,155 --> 00:14:44,715 Speaker 1: July in l a in the year. But you know 224 00:14:44,755 --> 00:14:47,635 Speaker 1: what his answer to that would be? My grandchildren. They're 225 00:14:47,675 --> 00:14:52,795 Speaker 1: not even investing in anything. Dateline Windsor Berkshire County, England. 226 00:14:52,875 --> 00:14:56,035 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth the second was buried yesterday, just eleven days 227 00:14:56,075 --> 00:15:01,915 Speaker 1: after she died MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, NBC, ABC CBS, 228 00:15:02,195 --> 00:15:05,515 Speaker 1: to say nothing of British television. We'll now have to 229 00:15:05,515 --> 00:15:08,195 Speaker 1: pivot away from the story that has occupied them since 230 00:15:08,235 --> 00:15:12,995 Speaker 1: September eight, the upcoming funeral, and switch to ten days 231 00:15:13,035 --> 00:15:31,995 Speaker 1: of coverage looking back at the funeral. This is sports center. Wait, 232 00:15:32,155 --> 00:15:40,315 Speaker 1: check that not anymore. This is countdown with Keith. I mean, 233 00:15:40,355 --> 00:15:43,555 Speaker 1: I like the Queen. I liked the queen and I 234 00:15:43,595 --> 00:15:46,835 Speaker 1: don't particularly mind the rituals of the funeral process, but 235 00:15:46,915 --> 00:15:49,275 Speaker 1: ten days of it. I wouldn't watch it for ten 236 00:15:49,355 --> 00:15:50,755 Speaker 1: days if you told me at some point she was 237 00:15:50,755 --> 00:15:53,595 Speaker 1: going to jump out of the box. In Sports, the 238 00:15:53,635 --> 00:15:56,235 Speaker 1: problem with selling your souls that the devil keeps asking 239 00:15:56,235 --> 00:15:58,355 Speaker 1: you to go back and make follow up sales pitches. 240 00:15:58,635 --> 00:16:02,155 Speaker 1: Politico reports that the Saudi blood money Gulf Tour Live 241 00:16:02,995 --> 00:16:05,955 Speaker 1: Ironic Name Matt the thing assigned to give that country 242 00:16:05,995 --> 00:16:08,995 Speaker 1: good pub after it killed a Washington Post columnist and 243 00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:11,395 Speaker 1: then cut him up with a bone saw. We'll send 244 00:16:11,435 --> 00:16:14,355 Speaker 1: a representative to Washington this week to meet with, quote, 245 00:16:14,555 --> 00:16:18,035 Speaker 1: lawmakers from both parties. We think it's imperative to educate 246 00:16:18,115 --> 00:16:22,435 Speaker 1: members on lives business model and counter the PGA tours 247 00:16:22,635 --> 00:16:26,075 Speaker 1: anti competitive efforts. who gets the task of trying to 248 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:29,835 Speaker 1: sell a pro Bon saw golf tour to congressman and senators? 249 00:16:29,955 --> 00:16:33,795 Speaker 1: Why it's Greg Norman, the shark, who, believe it or not, 250 00:16:33,995 --> 00:16:37,955 Speaker 1: was once a popular professional golfer. Baseball, the San Francisco 251 00:16:37,995 --> 00:16:40,875 Speaker 1: giants are investigating how certain items wound up for sale 252 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:43,515 Speaker 1: and a gift shop at their stadium over the weekend, 253 00:16:43,755 --> 00:16:48,355 Speaker 1: caps and shirts and such depicting the Los Angeles dodgers. 254 00:16:48,755 --> 00:16:50,835 Speaker 1: The team says it was a mix up with a 255 00:16:50,955 --> 00:16:54,995 Speaker 1: third party vendor and will not happen again. Spoiler alert. 256 00:16:55,035 --> 00:16:59,075 Speaker 1: Baseball Stadium Souvenir stands used to carry the memorabilia of 257 00:16:59,235 --> 00:17:03,155 Speaker 1: all major league teams. In New York, where a Brooklyn 258 00:17:03,195 --> 00:17:06,635 Speaker 1: dodger fan once shot and killed a New York giants 259 00:17:06,675 --> 00:17:10,075 Speaker 1: fan for disparaging the dodgers. You used to be able 260 00:17:10,075 --> 00:17:12,955 Speaker 1: to go to the souvenir stands at Brooklyn's famous ebbitts 261 00:17:12,995 --> 00:17:16,475 Speaker 1: field and by the caps and the yearbooks of the 262 00:17:16,515 --> 00:17:21,075 Speaker 1: dodgers and the New York giants and the New York Yankees. 263 00:17:35,235 --> 00:17:38,035 Speaker 1: Still Ahead the nights. CNN told me to take the president, 264 00:17:38,075 --> 00:17:40,795 Speaker 1: the Executive Director and the Chief Council of the striking 265 00:17:40,995 --> 00:17:45,035 Speaker 1: NFL Players Association, my sources on a big story out 266 00:17:45,075 --> 00:17:47,435 Speaker 1: to dinner at one of the best restaurants in New 267 00:17:47,515 --> 00:17:51,195 Speaker 1: York City. If I tell you this is the anniversary 268 00:17:51,235 --> 00:17:53,155 Speaker 1: of that dinner, can you tell me how much it 269 00:17:53,275 --> 00:17:55,115 Speaker 1: costs for four of us at one of the best 270 00:17:55,155 --> 00:17:59,315 Speaker 1: restaurants in New York in two that's coming up first, 271 00:17:59,315 --> 00:18:01,995 Speaker 1: the daily roundup of the miscrants, morons and dunning Kruger 272 00:18:02,035 --> 00:18:07,635 Speaker 1: Effects Specimens who constitute today's persons in the world. Lebronze 273 00:18:07,715 --> 00:18:13,075 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Eric Dim D Y M Dim, christened by prophetic 274 00:18:13,155 --> 00:18:16,515 Speaker 1: parents of the New York City Police Department. Well, not anymore. 275 00:18:16,875 --> 00:18:21,635 Speaker 1: Let's congratulate Lieutenant Dim on his retirement. Normally retirements are 276 00:18:21,635 --> 00:18:24,395 Speaker 1: based on how long you have served, but according to 277 00:18:24,435 --> 00:18:27,715 Speaker 1: the independent New York City journalism site, the city, this 278 00:18:27,835 --> 00:18:32,435 Speaker 1: retirement is based on Lieutenant Dim's number of disciplinary allegations. 279 00:18:33,435 --> 00:18:38,035 Speaker 1: Fifty two. There are fifty two substantive cases against lieutenant dim, 280 00:18:38,075 --> 00:18:40,515 Speaker 1: the most on the force. He has been named in 281 00:18:40,555 --> 00:18:43,035 Speaker 1: more than a dozen lawsuits. He's been accused of pointing 282 00:18:43,075 --> 00:18:46,115 Speaker 1: a gun at someone four times and of improper use 283 00:18:46,195 --> 00:18:49,595 Speaker 1: of physical force three times. By retiring, he will face 284 00:18:49,755 --> 00:18:54,955 Speaker 1: a crippling punishment. He will lose sixty four vacation days. 285 00:18:55,795 --> 00:18:58,355 Speaker 1: This is your New York City Police Department in action 286 00:18:59,275 --> 00:19:03,395 Speaker 1: to protect and whatever. Flash forward twenty years from now 287 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:06,675 Speaker 1: and of course lieutenant dim will be mayor the runner up. 288 00:19:06,835 --> 00:19:10,435 Speaker 1: The Spider, the spider that is, that was seen spotted 289 00:19:10,595 --> 00:19:14,355 Speaker 1: crawling across the card attached to the memorial floral arrangement 290 00:19:14,355 --> 00:19:17,515 Speaker 1: from King Charles that sat atop his mother, Queen Elizabeth's 291 00:19:17,515 --> 00:19:21,475 Speaker 1: casket yesterday. It was actually just tabloid or Rupert Murdoch 292 00:19:21,555 --> 00:19:26,075 Speaker 1: in his other life form. But our winner Congressman Don Bacon, 293 00:19:26,555 --> 00:19:31,195 Speaker 1: like lieutenant dim, named by prophetic parents, Congressman Bacon is 294 00:19:31,235 --> 00:19:35,355 Speaker 1: from Nebraska and he's just not very bright. Kind of swinish. 295 00:19:35,635 --> 00:19:38,315 Speaker 1: Congressman Bacon has written to the White House to express, 296 00:19:38,395 --> 00:19:41,675 Speaker 1: quoting him, that my house colleagues and I are very 297 00:19:41,675 --> 00:19:45,715 Speaker 1: concerned that the deeply flawed and unfair policy of blankets 298 00:19:45,715 --> 00:19:51,075 Speaker 1: student loan forgiveness will also weaken our most powerful recruiting 299 00:19:51,155 --> 00:19:54,795 Speaker 1: tool at the precise moment we are experiencing a crisis 300 00:19:55,715 --> 00:20:00,035 Speaker 1: in military recruiting. End Quote. Let's go through this again. 301 00:20:00,315 --> 00:20:03,435 Speaker 1: Representative Bacon is saying that if making things easier for 302 00:20:03,555 --> 00:20:08,355 Speaker 1: kids who need need financial help. Going to college would 303 00:20:08,355 --> 00:20:12,275 Speaker 1: be the most powerful recruiting tool for the military. That 304 00:20:12,355 --> 00:20:15,155 Speaker 1: you'd be losing the most powerful recruiting tool for the military. 305 00:20:15,195 --> 00:20:18,075 Speaker 1: In other words, if you can't afford college or college loans, 306 00:20:18,435 --> 00:20:21,595 Speaker 1: that makes you likelier to sign up to maybe get 307 00:20:21,635 --> 00:20:26,035 Speaker 1: yourself killed or a limb blown off. That keeping people poor, 308 00:20:26,555 --> 00:20:30,035 Speaker 1: according to Congressman Bacon, is the way you force them 309 00:20:30,075 --> 00:20:33,155 Speaker 1: to go into the U S military and maybe to die, 310 00:20:33,915 --> 00:20:36,715 Speaker 1: which is not only inhumane but is a hell of 311 00:20:36,755 --> 00:20:40,955 Speaker 1: a way to insult the U S military. Congressman Don 312 00:20:41,595 --> 00:20:43,395 Speaker 1: we can't give you money, then you won't let us 313 00:20:43,515 --> 00:21:03,275 Speaker 1: kill you. Bacon, today's worst person in the world. I 314 00:21:03,435 --> 00:21:06,275 Speaker 1: thought I could see it through the swinging kitchen door 315 00:21:06,435 --> 00:21:09,995 Speaker 1: of the ill vagabondo restaurant on east sixty two street 316 00:21:09,995 --> 00:21:13,315 Speaker 1: in New York. What I thought I saw seemed to 317 00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:17,795 Speaker 1: be an extraordinarily large man standing over one of the 318 00:21:17,995 --> 00:21:22,275 Speaker 1: large kitchen sinks, holding one of the kitchen's big flexible 319 00:21:22,355 --> 00:21:27,715 Speaker 1: rubber water hoses and drinking from it. It was an 320 00:21:27,755 --> 00:21:31,235 Speaker 1: unusual enough site, but there was also a complication. That 321 00:21:31,435 --> 00:21:35,235 Speaker 1: extraordinarily large man was one of my dinner guests and 322 00:21:35,355 --> 00:21:39,435 Speaker 1: his name was gene upshaw, the just retired offensive guard 323 00:21:39,475 --> 00:21:42,955 Speaker 1: of the Oakland Raiders and President of the National Football 324 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:48,795 Speaker 1: League Players Association. Jean was six ft five, sixty pounds, 325 00:21:48,795 --> 00:21:52,155 Speaker 1: but he seemed much larger than that. If he wanted 326 00:21:52,155 --> 00:21:54,235 Speaker 1: to drink out of one of the giant kitchen hoses, 327 00:21:54,515 --> 00:21:57,675 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna Stop Him, nor was anybody in the kitchen, 328 00:21:58,035 --> 00:22:01,715 Speaker 1: nor was everybody combined on east sixty two street, nor 329 00:22:01,795 --> 00:22:04,475 Speaker 1: was anybody in the city on that Saturday night. So Long, 330 00:22:04,675 --> 00:22:09,595 Speaker 1: Oh two nights later, gene and the executive director of 331 00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:12,955 Speaker 1: the National Football League Players Association, Ed Garvey, and its 332 00:22:12,995 --> 00:22:17,075 Speaker 1: outside council, chip Yablonsky, would officially take their union out 333 00:22:17,115 --> 00:22:21,955 Speaker 1: on the last successful strike in pro football and introduced 334 00:22:21,995 --> 00:22:23,995 Speaker 1: to the entire world of sports. What was then, and 335 00:22:24,035 --> 00:22:27,395 Speaker 1: I literally mean then that evening on CNN, just before 336 00:22:27,395 --> 00:22:29,315 Speaker 1: our trip to the restaurant who's kitchen host Jean was 337 00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:32,675 Speaker 1: now drinking out of. Would then introduced to sports what 338 00:22:32,875 --> 00:22:36,715 Speaker 1: was then described by a nationally prominent sportswriter live on 339 00:22:36,795 --> 00:22:42,555 Speaker 1: TV as, quote, communism. Executive Director Garvey had proposed a 340 00:22:42,635 --> 00:22:44,955 Speaker 1: deal with the owners that would be based on giving 341 00:22:44,995 --> 00:22:49,155 Speaker 1: the players a percentage of gross income, five cents out 342 00:22:49,155 --> 00:22:53,795 Speaker 1: of every dollar taken in by football. It would be 343 00:22:53,835 --> 00:22:56,195 Speaker 1: given to the players and, within a structure allowing for 344 00:22:56,235 --> 00:23:00,435 Speaker 1: individual players to negotiate individual contracts, the players would basically 345 00:23:00,475 --> 00:23:03,195 Speaker 1: figure out how the rest of their fifty would be 346 00:23:03,235 --> 00:23:07,115 Speaker 1: divvied up among them. The owners would keep and divvy 347 00:23:07,155 --> 00:23:10,995 Speaker 1: it up anyway they wanted to. Today this is the 348 00:23:10,995 --> 00:23:15,195 Speaker 1: basis of the contract offers made by the sports owners 349 00:23:15,715 --> 00:23:19,635 Speaker 1: to the players Union. But in two on September eight, 350 00:23:20,635 --> 00:23:23,435 Speaker 1: two live on CNN with me as host. This was 351 00:23:23,515 --> 00:23:29,515 Speaker 1: called Communism by the Atlanta Journal Constitution Sports Writer Firman Bisher, 352 00:23:29,555 --> 00:23:31,595 Speaker 1: whom I had been reading since I was a kid. 353 00:23:32,435 --> 00:23:34,675 Speaker 1: Bisher was one of the guests in a special show 354 00:23:34,715 --> 00:23:37,635 Speaker 1: which I anchored from New York, with Garvey and upshaw 355 00:23:37,675 --> 00:23:41,275 Speaker 1: in the studio with me. Bisher went further. He called 356 00:23:41,315 --> 00:23:45,715 Speaker 1: Garvey a communist and I apologized and Garvey said I've 357 00:23:45,755 --> 00:23:49,835 Speaker 1: been called worse today. This was why we were all 358 00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:53,035 Speaker 1: out to dinner at Il Vagabondo, an Italian restaurants so 359 00:23:53,155 --> 00:23:56,555 Speaker 1: Italian that there was a BACCI ball court in the 360 00:23:56,595 --> 00:24:01,275 Speaker 1: middle of the main dining room. Our CNN executive sports producer, 361 00:24:01,355 --> 00:24:03,315 Speaker 1: Rick Davis had said that if I could talk Garvey 362 00:24:03,355 --> 00:24:06,035 Speaker 1: and upshaw into going on our show on a Saturday, 363 00:24:06,195 --> 00:24:09,115 Speaker 1: I could take them out to dinner, he added, no, 364 00:24:09,235 --> 00:24:12,555 Speaker 1: and I mean it, a Nice restaurant. Garvey had already 365 00:24:12,555 --> 00:24:14,555 Speaker 1: turned into a great source and a great friend with 366 00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:16,675 Speaker 1: whom I would stay in touch for thirty five years. 367 00:24:17,115 --> 00:24:19,435 Speaker 1: The day before he had matter of factly told me, 368 00:24:20,035 --> 00:24:24,235 Speaker 1: and only me, a sports reporter from an obscure TV 369 00:24:24,355 --> 00:24:28,435 Speaker 1: cable network called CNN, that when the Union's Executive Council 370 00:24:28,595 --> 00:24:31,435 Speaker 1: met the following Monday, that there was only one option 371 00:24:31,555 --> 00:24:35,595 Speaker 1: on its table, a strike. This was a huge scoop. 372 00:24:36,195 --> 00:24:38,155 Speaker 1: Later Garvey would tell me that the union had made 373 00:24:38,195 --> 00:24:40,755 Speaker 1: a deal with Ted Turner, who happened to own my network. 374 00:24:41,035 --> 00:24:43,515 Speaker 1: If the Union could get the National Labor Relations Board 375 00:24:43,515 --> 00:24:46,115 Speaker 1: to rule that the owners had forced that strike, the 376 00:24:46,195 --> 00:24:49,075 Speaker 1: Union would be entitled to break all its contracts with 377 00:24:49,115 --> 00:24:52,595 Speaker 1: the national football league and sign a new deal where 378 00:24:52,635 --> 00:24:56,035 Speaker 1: the players and Ted Turner would co own all of 379 00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:59,635 Speaker 1: professional football in this country. What'd you like to do 380 00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:03,475 Speaker 1: play by play, Ed said. It didn't happen, obviously, but 381 00:25:03,675 --> 00:25:06,035 Speaker 1: that also was a great scoop, and they tried it 382 00:25:06,035 --> 00:25:09,555 Speaker 1: out in miniature. They played two glorified pickup games, one 383 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:12,795 Speaker 1: at the L A colisseum one at RFK stadium in Washington, 384 00:25:12,915 --> 00:25:17,515 Speaker 1: under the greatest sports league acronym of all time, all 385 00:25:17,675 --> 00:25:24,515 Speaker 1: star season, Yep a s s. It was also Ed Garvey. 386 00:25:24,595 --> 00:25:26,555 Speaker 1: A month later, in the middle of a press blackout 387 00:25:26,595 --> 00:25:29,675 Speaker 1: imposed by the National Labor Relations Board mediator, who sneaked 388 00:25:29,675 --> 00:25:32,795 Speaker 1: into my hotel room outside of Baltimore and gave me 389 00:25:32,875 --> 00:25:37,435 Speaker 1: an exclusive interview. Anyway, Garvey arrived just after a housekeeper 390 00:25:37,475 --> 00:25:40,235 Speaker 1: had knocked on my room door and, without waiting for 391 00:25:40,275 --> 00:25:44,395 Speaker 1: an answer, had entered. That housekeeper saw the following scene. 392 00:25:44,875 --> 00:25:48,115 Speaker 1: Me In a suit sitting on a chair, the CNN 393 00:25:48,195 --> 00:25:51,315 Speaker 1: cameraman sitting at a table with his big bulky camera 394 00:25:51,395 --> 00:25:55,115 Speaker 1: and tripod, and the video tape deck operator, who happened 395 00:25:55,115 --> 00:25:59,235 Speaker 1: to be a woman, lounging a top my still unmade bed, 396 00:25:59,395 --> 00:26:03,755 Speaker 1: watching her favorite soap opera on TV. The housekeeper took 397 00:26:03,795 --> 00:26:08,475 Speaker 1: one look, literally shouted Lordy, and she backed out of 398 00:26:08,475 --> 00:26:11,955 Speaker 1: the room, nearly knocking down Ed Garvey in the process. 399 00:26:13,155 --> 00:26:15,875 Speaker 1: Later in the strike, the mediator quit the talks one night. 400 00:26:16,275 --> 00:26:18,875 Speaker 1: Then the owners guy also walked out, leaving Ed Garvey 401 00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:22,315 Speaker 1: and the players by themselves. I Sat Garvey Down for 402 00:26:22,315 --> 00:26:25,155 Speaker 1: another interview and I asked him, will the absence of 403 00:26:25,155 --> 00:26:28,875 Speaker 1: the media and the League's negotiator make any tangible difference 404 00:26:28,875 --> 00:26:33,915 Speaker 1: in the negotiations? And Garvey laughed without interruption for ninety seconds. 405 00:26:35,355 --> 00:26:37,755 Speaker 1: Geane upshaw, who, in telling this story, I have left 406 00:26:37,795 --> 00:26:39,995 Speaker 1: in the kitchen drinking from the hose all this time, 407 00:26:40,035 --> 00:26:43,195 Speaker 1: and it's actually almost how long he did drink from 408 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:46,395 Speaker 1: the hose that night. He was just as good a 409 00:26:46,395 --> 00:26:49,315 Speaker 1: friend and a source, whipped smart and often too honest 410 00:26:49,355 --> 00:26:51,995 Speaker 1: for his own good. Five years later, when he had 411 00:26:52,035 --> 00:26:54,915 Speaker 1: succeeded Garvey as executive director and the players again went 412 00:26:54,955 --> 00:26:57,595 Speaker 1: on strike against the NFL, I had a tip that 413 00:26:57,635 --> 00:27:00,635 Speaker 1: the strike was collapsing because the owners had brought in 414 00:27:00,755 --> 00:27:04,395 Speaker 1: scab players and they kept playing games anyway. I called 415 00:27:04,435 --> 00:27:06,235 Speaker 1: a Yer I knew in the Union and he was 416 00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:08,315 Speaker 1: hemming and Hawing when I heard him say, wait, Jeane 417 00:27:08,315 --> 00:27:11,235 Speaker 1: wants to talk to you all. Geane upshaw did, was 418 00:27:11,355 --> 00:27:15,435 Speaker 1: off the record, confirm that the strike had indeed collapsed 419 00:27:15,475 --> 00:27:17,795 Speaker 1: and he expected lots of union players to cross the 420 00:27:17,795 --> 00:27:21,755 Speaker 1: picket lines the next morning. I said, I can use this, 421 00:27:22,355 --> 00:27:24,355 Speaker 1: he said, you've always been honest with me. The least 422 00:27:24,395 --> 00:27:26,235 Speaker 1: I can do is be honest with you. A matter 423 00:27:26,275 --> 00:27:29,675 Speaker 1: of fact, you can say high placed union sources told you. Ah, 424 00:27:29,755 --> 00:27:32,315 Speaker 1: screw it, you can quote me, Keith, but wait till 425 00:27:32,355 --> 00:27:35,915 Speaker 1: after midnight, my time. I gotta call these guys. Unfortunately, 426 00:27:35,995 --> 00:27:38,315 Speaker 1: this meant that when I interviewed the now Los Angeles 427 00:27:38,435 --> 00:27:41,235 Speaker 1: Raiders Team Union Rep Live on TV a few hours 428 00:27:41,315 --> 00:27:43,635 Speaker 1: later in Los Angeles and I asked him if the 429 00:27:43,635 --> 00:27:46,035 Speaker 1: strike was in its final hours, he said no, and 430 00:27:46,075 --> 00:27:49,675 Speaker 1: I said yeah, kind of is, and it was the 431 00:27:49,715 --> 00:27:53,315 Speaker 1: head of his union who had told me so. Anyway, 432 00:27:53,315 --> 00:27:56,555 Speaker 1: that night at Il Vagabondo, upshaw and Garvey and Chipyablotsky 433 00:27:56,595 --> 00:27:58,755 Speaker 1: told me twenty stories I would have killed to use 434 00:27:58,835 --> 00:28:01,675 Speaker 1: that night, but they were all off the record. I 435 00:28:01,675 --> 00:28:03,475 Speaker 1: think I can mention a couple of them now, since 436 00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:08,475 Speaker 1: it's checks watch. Forty years later, at one bargaining session, 437 00:28:08,475 --> 00:28:11,915 Speaker 1: one of the League's lawyers, Vince Lombardi JR, was arguing 438 00:28:11,915 --> 00:28:14,555 Speaker 1: with one of the player bargainers, linebackers stand white of 439 00:28:14,595 --> 00:28:18,275 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, who was also a lawyer. The players 440 00:28:18,315 --> 00:28:20,395 Speaker 1: were asking for something that is still a bone of 441 00:28:20,395 --> 00:28:23,595 Speaker 1: contention between the two sides. Full access to their own 442 00:28:23,875 --> 00:28:28,475 Speaker 1: team medical personal records. Vince Lombardi JR looked at white 443 00:28:28,515 --> 00:28:30,195 Speaker 1: and said, what are you gonna do with them, even 444 00:28:30,195 --> 00:28:31,915 Speaker 1: if we gave them to you? You guys are too 445 00:28:31,915 --> 00:28:35,475 Speaker 1: stupid to understand them. At that point white, who might 446 00:28:35,515 --> 00:28:37,795 Speaker 1: have been a lawyer but was also still a linebacker, 447 00:28:38,155 --> 00:28:40,635 Speaker 1: leaped over the bargaining table and tried to get his 448 00:28:40,715 --> 00:28:45,235 Speaker 1: hands around Lombardi's throat. There are also a few hours 449 00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:49,395 Speaker 1: of shared insults about top NFL announcers and executives and players, 450 00:28:49,755 --> 00:28:53,075 Speaker 1: and a good deal of wine at this dinner and periodically, 451 00:28:53,075 --> 00:28:55,515 Speaker 1: when there were no more breadsticks at the table or 452 00:28:55,675 --> 00:28:58,515 Speaker 1: Antipasto at the table or water at the table, gene 453 00:28:58,595 --> 00:29:01,075 Speaker 1: upshaw would simply get up and go into the kitchen 454 00:29:01,275 --> 00:29:04,915 Speaker 1: and get it himself. When the evening was over, my 455 00:29:05,035 --> 00:29:09,035 Speaker 1: diary notes that we had spent for four men, four 456 00:29:09,275 --> 00:29:12,955 Speaker 1: large men, of whom I was the smallest, with wine, 457 00:29:13,435 --> 00:29:16,675 Speaker 1: with a generous tip, at a top New York restaurant 458 00:29:16,995 --> 00:29:23,395 Speaker 1: on CNN's dime. The staggering figure of fifty five dollars 459 00:29:24,435 --> 00:29:28,235 Speaker 1: still translates only to about four hundred and seventy bucks today. 460 00:29:29,035 --> 00:29:31,315 Speaker 1: It was a lot of money then CNN was paying 461 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:34,835 Speaker 1: me twenty six thousand dollars a year. Anyway, we all 462 00:29:34,875 --> 00:29:37,635 Speaker 1: walked out into a lovely New York September Saturday night 463 00:29:37,995 --> 00:29:40,555 Speaker 1: garby bopshaw and Yablonsky. We're all staying in a hotel 464 00:29:40,595 --> 00:29:42,755 Speaker 1: not from where we had eaten and not far from 465 00:29:42,795 --> 00:29:45,995 Speaker 1: where I lived. So I walked them back and upshaw 466 00:29:46,115 --> 00:29:49,435 Speaker 1: had one more immortal memory left to create. It happened 467 00:29:49,435 --> 00:29:51,275 Speaker 1: that he was on the cover of that week's edition 468 00:29:51,315 --> 00:29:54,235 Speaker 1: of Newsweek magazine and as we passed one of the 469 00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:58,195 Speaker 1: old ubiquitous Manhattan News stands, which were just tiny shacks 470 00:29:58,235 --> 00:30:01,795 Speaker 1: on nearly every corner of the city, Jean leaned down 471 00:30:02,155 --> 00:30:04,795 Speaker 1: and into the little window through which the news and 472 00:30:04,915 --> 00:30:09,595 Speaker 1: operator peered out, and he said, politely but firmly, have 473 00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:11,675 Speaker 1: you got a copy of the one with me on 474 00:30:11,795 --> 00:30:22,195 Speaker 1: the cover? I've done all the damage I can do here. 475 00:30:22,195 --> 00:30:23,675 Speaker 1: Help me out if you can give it a good 476 00:30:23,675 --> 00:30:28,395 Speaker 1: review or subscribe or forward it or say it slaps 477 00:30:28,475 --> 00:30:31,915 Speaker 1: or whatever. Thank you. The countdown theme from Beethoven's ninth 478 00:30:31,915 --> 00:30:34,755 Speaker 1: the arrange produced and performed by countdown musical directors Brian 479 00:30:34,835 --> 00:30:37,915 Speaker 1: Ray and John Philip Channel, guitarist, Bass and drums by 480 00:30:37,915 --> 00:30:41,635 Speaker 1: Brian Ray all, orchestration and keyboards by John Philip, channel 481 00:30:41,715 --> 00:30:44,915 Speaker 1: produced by t KO brothers. 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