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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to Turning Point.

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Speaker 2: Tonight.

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Speaker 3: We're together, we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback.

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Speaker 2: My name is Joe Bob.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: For tuning in.

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Speaker 3: We realized here at TPT that we have a lot

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Speaker 3: of great content, so many fantastic interviews that we did

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Speaker 3: at America Fest that we just haven't had time to

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Speaker 3: air quite yet. So considering the fact that it's a Friday,

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Speaker 3: we'd like to bring some of those fantastic conversations to you.

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Speaker 3: One with Mary Margaret Olahan from the Daily Wire, another

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Speaker 3: with apl Ana Pauline a Luna, where I promise you

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Speaker 3: we talked about more than just aliens, because I think

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Speaker 3: we talked about aliens for the entire segment last time

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Speaker 3: we talked to her. This is another fantastic conversation, as

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Speaker 3: well as one with Seth Gruber of the White Rose Resistance.

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Speaker 3: I promise you you're not gonna want to miss a

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Speaker 3: single one of these fantastic conversations, and they're coming at.

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Speaker 2: You right now.

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Speaker 3: Mary Margaret Olahan, the White House correspondent not secretary, were

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Speaker 3: the Daily Wire, Yeah, so I think we were. I

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Speaker 3: think we worked together to when were you at the

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Speaker 3: Daily Caller. I was at a.

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Speaker 4: Daily Caller from twenty nineteen to middle of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so then very brief overlap, probably because I think

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Speaker 3: I was like June of twenty twenty one may or something.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like COVID still, so we were totally

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Speaker 4: in person, so we totally can't missed each other.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I was never in office. I was always remote.

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Speaker 3: I think I worked with the Daily Caller for like

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Speaker 3: three years and I've met one person in real life.

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Speaker 5: Well you know me, Yeah, it's a Daily Caller.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's Daily Callers kind of like the

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Speaker 3: jumping off point for like, oh yeah, everybody.

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Speaker 5: So I like to think that the Daily Caller is

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Speaker 5: kind of like the boot camp of conservative journalists. I

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Speaker 5: love that partially because Jeff Ingersoul Oh yeah, who was

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Speaker 5: is a marine? I know what's a marine? Always marine,

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Speaker 5: but he's no longer active duty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was such a for disciplinarian, taught everyone how to

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Speaker 4: do journalism.

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Speaker 5: Was so you know, frank and brutally.

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Speaker 2: Honest when it came to that, but that's necessarily.

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Speaker 5: It was so good. So I learned so much to

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Speaker 5: the Daily Caller.

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Speaker 4: And I mean if you look now in the White House,

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Speaker 4: all these journalists.

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Speaker 1: You've got Daily Collar, all these daily color cops, you.

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Speaker 4: Got Christian Day Talk, The Examiner, he got myself, Daily Reagan,

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Speaker 4: g Reece, Daily Caller, Uh Soccer and Jenny he's not

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Speaker 4: there now, but he was in the New mediac recently.

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Speaker 4: Also Daily Caller, I know is now at CNN and

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Speaker 4: is by most people's standards pretty lib also got our

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Speaker 4: started the Daily Caller writing uh, writing.

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Speaker 5: Stuff for this smoke room. I think, you know some

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Speaker 5: other more choice content.

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Speaker 3: So what is that like? Okay, what is that? There's

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Speaker 3: so many different avenues of what is that like? What

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Speaker 3: is it like now being in kind of the press

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Speaker 3: area of the White House? Obviously probably a little easier

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Speaker 3: when the White House is friendly, Yeah, but that doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean the other media outlets change because they still don't

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Speaker 3: like the guy. Right, What is the dynamic like with

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Speaker 3: you and your friendlies and then some of them not ones? Right?

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Speaker 5: So there's so much going on here. And I think

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Speaker 5: something that's important important for people to remember is people

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Speaker 5: like Stephen Miller, even jd. Vance, they still prefer the

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Speaker 5: antagonism of left wing media they're really good at that.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump loves to get into it with like media,

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Speaker 4: so they're a friendly administration. They know conservative media is

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Speaker 4: interested in telling the truth about what they're doing, but

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Speaker 4: they're not necessarily going to pick us.

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Speaker 5: Over legacy media, as we saw by.

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Speaker 4: This Vanity Fair profile that yeah, what is it last

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Speaker 5: So it's a whole dynamic being in there because it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: We're so grateful for the access.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 5: You know, they call it the most transparent administration history.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 5: It's true. They give us so much access and it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're in there with CNN, WAT Chimpost, Wall Street,

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Speaker 4: Vanity Fair, Bucks, any outlet.

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Speaker 4: You're also in there with you know, Daily Wire, Turning Point, Linde,

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Speaker 4: l TV, all of these different places, and one American

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Speaker 4: news network. So you have such a variety of questions

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Speaker 4: that people are asking the President anything from you know,

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Speaker 4: why are you profiting off of the American people by

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Speaker 4: having this niche dinner tonight to mister president, you're so great?

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Speaker 2: Why are you so great?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Or like rfkaging you're so fit? How many push ups

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Speaker 4: He does a night like you have such a wide

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Speaker 4: array of questions, so it's just like it's kind of

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Speaker 4: happy chaos and you go in there and you.

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Speaker 5: Just kind of got to dial in. I try and

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Speaker 5: make eye contact with the president as soon.

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Speaker 4: As I can if we're in a like a week, yeah,

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Speaker 4: because you know, as you talk.

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Speaker 3: About one of the strategies, how do you get the

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Speaker 3: attention other than jumping up and down waving?

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Speaker 1: But it's so hard.

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Speaker 5: So Daily Wire always tells me to like wear something bright,

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Speaker 5: wear something bright. That helps sometimes, like if you can pop.

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Speaker 2: Out a little whuse what you're wearing. Oh yeah, all

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Speaker 2: of that, Matt oh totally.

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Speaker 5: And then you know he'll look around while he's talking

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Speaker 5: and he will make eye contact with you.

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Speaker 4: Reagan Reese, my friend for the Daily Caller, was just

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Speaker 4: telling me yesterday that he winked at her in one meeting,

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Speaker 4: so she knew he would come back.

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Speaker 5: I was in a meeting with.

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Speaker 4: Him recently and I was directly across from him, so

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Speaker 4: every time he looked at me, I would try and

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Speaker 4: like smile to show him, yes, I'm listening, I'm here

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Speaker 4: calling me.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's always interesting. And then Caroline is the briefing.

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Speaker 5: If she can't see.

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Speaker 2: You, it's not gonna call.

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Speaker 5: So you really got to be in the line of eyesight.

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Speaker 5: If you have too many people in front of you.

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Speaker 1: You could be raising your hand, but nothing there.

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Speaker 5: She'll just see a hand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's you know, it's high stress, high pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So it's all really like, you gotta get there early.

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Speaker 2: Is it a sign seating in the press briefing room?

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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, okay, So you go in there and it's

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Speaker 3: It now because the little flag they have looks like

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Speaker 3: a P and that would I need to see this?

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Speaker 5: Go, but you got them, you got Fox News, you

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Speaker 4: Yes, they're all the front row and they usually get questions.

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Speaker 4: And then the farther back you go, you know, got

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Speaker 4: an array of outlets. And then on this side is

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Speaker 4: where someone like myself stands somewhere like Monica pay Yeah,

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Speaker 5: It's really hard. And I'll get there two hours early,

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Speaker 5: wow to hold my spot. And sometimes you just can't

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Speaker 5: do it. You know, you gotta, right, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta.

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Speaker 3: You have an actual job that you have to do,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so it's it's difficult. And if you want

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Speaker 5: Caroline to see you again, you gotta be there. You

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Speaker 5: gotta make a contact.

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Speaker 3: Do you with the other more friendly outlets, do you

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Speaker 3: kind of it's a friendly free for all.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we should. I will say there was a lot

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Speaker 4: Know, someone like myself, my friend Elizabeth Mitchell, we would

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Speaker 4: right before it started, these reporters would show up and

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Speaker 2: Your conservatives, so you're polite.

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Speaker 4: And so there was a little bit of drama there.

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Speaker 3: Does the culture change from administration or administration, because that

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Speaker 1: Does that kind of do you think it's so funny?

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Speaker 4: It's like asle culture, where you know, the people in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there definitely was a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 5: Firm and say no, you can't stand here. If I've

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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's kind of some unspoken and then spoken

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Speaker 5: So you'll call over the intercom and say White House Press.

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Speaker 4: Pool, lineup it so you all go line up, and

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Speaker 4: there's rules like photographers get to go first, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, the cable TV people get to go after that,

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Speaker 4: and if you push or you try and go in

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Speaker 5: It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole thing hell on you.

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Speaker 5: You might get uninvited from going next time. So it's

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Speaker 3: This is probably a ridiculous question that you haven't been

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Speaker 3: asked yet what kind of shoes do you wear? And

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Speaker 3: the only reason I asked that is because we've been

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Speaker 3: Pebble Beach and all, and in the back.

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Speaker 2: You see just like a horde of people sprinting.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, okay, so Trump is somewhere and

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Speaker 3: he's out and he's gaggling.

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Speaker 2: And everybody needs to go get to him.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: Obviously not always the case, with prior presidents. But he's

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Speaker 4: So not only is it decorum, it's like all these

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: This has been fascinating I'm excited about the footwear because

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Speaker 2: No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Well cool, Mary Margaret Oldhand, the White House correspondent for

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: the time. Awesome having me. This is fun. Cool.

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Speaker 3: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, also known as apl the better

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Speaker 2: There's an AOC out there that's not not as popular

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Speaker 3: I'm curious in Congress, who do you find yourself fighting

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this. I know what you're

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Speaker 7: Right direction, yes, yeah, yeah, but I do it like

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Speaker 2: So that's that's kind of your more contentious relationships right now.

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Speaker 7: It's more like when you know you're right, so and

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Speaker 3: Okay, So specifically, I think what you're talking about right

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Speaker 5: Her stock's very jealous.

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Speaker 3: tell us about what it is that you're doing regarding that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm actually talking about that along station.

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Speaker 7: So we can talk about all of all the things,

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Speaker 7: We can talk about the elections, we can talk foreign

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Speaker 7: if you have people in Congress, which specifically Congress, Yes,

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Speaker 7: making one seventy five, you know, a year with inflation,

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Speaker 5: And it's happening on both sides.

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Speaker 7: So for ten years, for ten years, Congress is like, oh,

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Speaker 5: And he could do something.

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Speaker 7: We saw the stock trade. It came from someone in

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Speaker 5: I don't give it.

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Speaker 7: If they don't like me, We're going to do a

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Speaker 5: So Hackeim, we're going to do it without you. We

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Speaker 5: She was in a member of hit jail.

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Speaker 7: But you you might get hit with a two hundred

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Speaker 7: dollars penalty if you're making a.

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Speaker 5: Multi watch, which they don't even really pay dollars.

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Speaker 7: You know, if I was corrupt, which I'm not that

449
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Speaker 7: I don't insider trade or really stock trade, but.

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Speaker 5: If I was corrupted, you know, I'd take the hit.

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Speaker 7: I'd say six million to start shooting six million in

452
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Speaker 7: you know, two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: I don't care. I'm not going to pay the fee,

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Speaker 5: so it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: And how often is that even implemented? Like how often does.

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Speaker 3: That that stiff two hundred dollars fine actually get a.

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Speaker 5: Solid amount of money?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's not They a lot of people won't

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Speaker 7: pay for I was actually just talking to journalists that

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Speaker 7: was covering this a few weeks back, and she was

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Speaker 7: saying that when she actually would ask members that would

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Speaker 7: get hit with this penalty, they would then run over

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Speaker 7: to house ethics and pay it real quick.

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Speaker 5: But she had already had the list that they had

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Speaker 5: up in panger fees.

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Speaker 7: They've been doing it multiple times, but it's not just

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Speaker 7: sad like the whole idea of Congressional ethics.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's gonna get sent to ethics. Yeah, to go

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Speaker 5: die and be put under a rock.

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Speaker 7: Like I've seen some of the stuff that comes out

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Speaker 7: of ethics and it is so corupt and they don't

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Speaker 7: do anything.

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Speaker 2: Well as far as rules go.

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Speaker 3: Even if they up the fine to a couple thousand bucks,

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Speaker 3: it's still it doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I said, if they're not forced to disgorge profits,

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Speaker 7: then nomin no go on the bill, because then they

478
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Speaker 7: still benefit from whatever they're doing illegal. Yeah, no stock trading,

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Speaker 7: disgorgement of full profits.

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Speaker 5: And you still have to pay a pet.

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Speaker 3: So on an ethical moral virtue standpoint, I probably know

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Speaker 3: the answer to this, But why haven't you participated? There?

483
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Speaker 3: There's au there's a hilarious video of someone saying, like,

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Speaker 3: my biggest fear is that corruption will end before I

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Speaker 3: get a chance to benefit from it. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: My staff is like, why do you have to be

487
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Speaker 7: so more? They like, we could be multimillionaires.

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Speaker 5: Oh I know, but wait, we'll get to heaven.

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Speaker 7: That's way about it, right, Yeah, you know that's I

490
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Speaker 7: think that's part of the problem. That's why a lot

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Speaker 7: of people can't fite me on this because it's a

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Speaker 7: winning issue with the American people.

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Speaker 2: Wildly.

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Speaker 5: I'm popular within the.

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Speaker 7: Chamber, but I win and they know that they're all

496
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Speaker 7: out for reelection in a mid terms, so they won't

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Speaker 7: fight me on it publicly. Awesome behind closed doors, but

498
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Speaker 7: then I'll just go public with it, so they really

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Speaker 7: can't find me on it.

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Speaker 3: Last thing on this right, there was a big article

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Speaker 3: about MTG and Pelosi retiring in the massive pensions that

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Speaker 3: they get.

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Speaker 2: The argument that is.

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Speaker 3: Made often is well, you need to be able to

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Speaker 3: have a portfolio, because what about retirement. To me, it

506
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Speaker 3: would seem okay, you get one of the other. You

507
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Speaker 3: can't get both both seems ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: So if you're in Congress for I think it's three terms,

509
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Speaker 7: you can get a pension, but it's not a lot

510
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Speaker 7: unless you've served, like the lost of my girl, because

511
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Speaker 7: she's been there since we'll shoot longer than I've been alive.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think three thousand years he's been in Congress.

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Speaker 7: Literally a fossil, but she specifically probably gets a larger one.

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Speaker 7: I don't think Margerie is getting a sizeable pension because

515
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Speaker 7: she's really been there for a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 5: But I mean that's kind of one of the things.

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Speaker 7: If you've been there longer, then you benefit from that.

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Speaker 7: Like me, I'm not going to be there for you know, decades,

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Speaker 7: so I don't think I'll be benefitting from a congression pension.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, either which way, Pelosi is getting out

521
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Speaker 7: having a seventeen thousand percent return on our sock portfolio.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy, so crazy. Even the Democrats are saying it's crazy.

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Speaker 7: That's how you know when you have when you have

524
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, iilhan Omar aoc me, chip Roy

525
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Speaker 7: steps back all on the same issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know nothing, there's kind of a problem.

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Speaker 5: And MGG did said my discharge petition for.

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Speaker 3: Thank you nice. Uh so you're not gonna be in

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Speaker 3: Congress for all that long time? Are your proponent term moments? Then?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm actually going to be proposing that when

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Speaker 7: we get back. I don't know if it'll pass, but

532
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Speaker 7: I at least promise that I'd bring them.

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Speaker 2: So do fun. Uh, the Venezuelan drug boats.

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Speaker 5: You mean the I'm narco traffickers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm of the opinion hit it a third time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've said, I said to someone, They're like, but

537
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Speaker 7: you know, ma'am, but you know, they try to like

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Speaker 7: make it seem like this was the Titanic and that

539
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Speaker 7: there were all.

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Speaker 1: These great innocent lives.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you're.

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Speaker 7: Literally these people are bringing fentanyl that is killing. Have

543
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Speaker 7: you ever met some of these moms and dealing with

544
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Speaker 7: their kids? Oding I just found out recently that in

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Speaker 7: my district when we were doing a probation ride alock,

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Speaker 7: I like to do this sometimes a pound of fenyl

547
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Speaker 7: one week, another pound of fenyl a couple of weeks

548
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Speaker 7: prior more to kill enough fentanyl to kill everyone in

549
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Speaker 7: this country multiple times over.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's every day in this country.

551
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Speaker 7: And so it's being labeled a weapon of mass destruction,

552
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Speaker 7: and I think rightfully so. But I also said, you know,

553
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Speaker 7: if I was in that position, it'd probably be a

554
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Speaker 7: heck of a lot worse, because I don't agree that

555
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Speaker 7: you should be on ever the side of protecting pirate

556
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Speaker 7: narco traffickers. And by the way, international they want to

557
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Speaker 7: talk about locked what this is international waters? How do

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Speaker 7: you know what the intelligent reporters actually was on a

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Speaker 7: left wing outlet and I was debating with these people,

560
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Speaker 7: and I said, guys, there's intelligence reports that go into

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Speaker 7: these strike packages with a jaw judicial military attorney that

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Speaker 7: knows law of armed conflict to make sure that there's

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Speaker 7: no human rights violations before a strike is authorized. It's

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Speaker 7: not just someone over there from the Department of War

565
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Speaker 7: sipping on a you know, soda, saying let's.

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Speaker 5: Shoot that guide. That's not how it works.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, and by the way, anyone who's

568
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Speaker 7: on TV, I was like, how many of you guys

569
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Speaker 7: have parences?

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Speaker 5: None of you do? I do, well, I was.

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Speaker 3: Because I know the Senate Armed Forces Committee, I think

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Speaker 3: saw it. And after yeah, the bunch of the Republicans

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Speaker 3: came out and while shoot, I forget who specifically was,

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Speaker 3: but one of the guys was on the committee that

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Speaker 3: was going to investigate that specific incident. And afterwards he's like,

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Speaker 3: I've watched the video. We don't need to actually look

577
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Speaker 3: into this, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Because it's and then of course then you have the

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Speaker 7: other ones that are saying this is the worst video

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Speaker 7: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Have you been to like spiz Row or Inner City Chicago?

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Speaker 5: You see, you know, brackheads oding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, when they said it though, none of them said

586
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Speaker 3: this is one hundred percent of war crime. They said

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Speaker 3: it was really difficult to watch, or this is one

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Speaker 3: of the worst things I've ever seen, neither of which

589
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Speaker 3: are I believe this is a war crime.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like nobody caught that.

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Speaker 7: Because they can't call it a war crime because you

592
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Speaker 7: have the process and they know that there is someone

593
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Speaker 7: there authorizing the strike based on intelligence to ensure that

594
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Speaker 7: it's not a war crime in a compliance with the

595
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Speaker 7: laws of ARMPUFLIC.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, these.

597
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Speaker 7: Are still pirates trafficking bugs into the United States of America.

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Speaker 5: Blow them up at third time.

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Speaker 2: That's I'm with you on that, speaking of pirates.

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, I'm here at the Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: So well, I was going to go the Somali pirate route.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Billion dollars gets taken out of Minnesota's taxpayer system. And

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Speaker 3: the worst thing that has happened, according to the Lib

605
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Speaker 3: media is Tim Walls got recalled retarded.

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Speaker 5: The drive by our words.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the lion was around the block to people waiting

608
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Speaker 3: in their turn to call Tim Walls retarded. Is Congress

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Speaker 3: doing anything to kind of make sure that that sort

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Speaker 3: of thing doesn't happen again in places.

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Speaker 2: Like Chicago, New York, LA, California.

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Speaker 7: A lot of weak, stomached members of Congress that don't

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Speaker 7: want to do something, even if it is getting rid

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Speaker 7: of fraud, because they're afraid of the word.

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Speaker 5: Cut in their elections.

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Speaker 7: Yea, Elon was great at posting this out about the

617
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Speaker 7: fraud wasted abuse, and then you had.

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Speaker 5: People saying, we're cutting, we're cutting, We're cutting.

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Speaker 7: We're literally protecting programs so that people that actually paid

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Speaker 7: these programs can actually have guaranteed resources in the future.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, I think a lot of people just

622
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Speaker 7: need to understand that your job is to vote and

623
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Speaker 7: represent the issuance of your constituents, and you know, fraud

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Speaker 7: in Minnesota is not that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what does twenty twenty six look like legislatively for you? Like,

626
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Speaker 3: what outside of the stuff we've already talked about policy wise,

627
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Speaker 3: what's on your docket?

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Speaker 2: What do you think you might reach across the aisle

629
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Speaker 2: with And I'm doing the.

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Speaker 7: I'm reaching west shoot I am doing red rover red

631
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Speaker 7: rovers and freaking aoc over on my discharge petition.

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Speaker 5: It's working.

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Speaker 7: So we coalition build on certain things, specifically banning contider trading,

634
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Speaker 7: you know, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think we're going to do.

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Speaker 7: One for if they don't quantify Trump's executive order on

637
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Speaker 7: having prescription film crisis, We're going to do that.

638
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Speaker 5: And then also we're looking at doing one.

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Speaker 7: On capping students on interest to two percent because I

640
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Speaker 7: don't have student loan debt.

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Speaker 5: I actually during the military use my gibill to pay

642
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Speaker 5: for it. But when you have people.

643
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Speaker 7: That are having to spend you know, thirty forty years

644
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Speaker 7: of paying back student more interest, and then it's you know,

645
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 7: a ton more than they initially took out, you're not

646
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Speaker 7: giving them access to the American dream. You're actually engaging

647
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Speaker 7: in predatory lending and creating intentered servitude. By the way,

648
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Speaker 7: these organizations that are giving out the loans are getting

649
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Speaker 7: some time government bailout money.

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Speaker 5: So yes, we do have an influence on how much

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Speaker 5: they can cap.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Last thing, you think AFC's running, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think that she is probably going to run for Senate.

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Speaker 7: I think that Schumer is not seeking re election, and

655
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Speaker 7: so I think that if it's jd.

656
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Speaker 5: Vance versus the Senate seat.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Senate's not really that far over from Congress.

658
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Speaker 7: I always compare Congress to a bar fight and then

659
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Speaker 7: send it to white collar crime.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 7: So you know we're more ratchet in the House, but

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Speaker 7: you know, you go to the Senate and it's a

663
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Speaker 7: little bit more peakys up. But I think that running

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Speaker 7: for presidential would probably be like the worst thing on

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Speaker 7: the face to the planet.

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Speaker 5: I don't know many people that would want to do that.

667
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Speaker 5: I think it's a miserable job because to be terrible.

668
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Speaker 7: Crazy people are like, do you want to run them? Like,

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Speaker 7: I really don't, I really don't. That seems like a

670
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Speaker 7: very exhausting thing. You see, like how presidents age when

671
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Speaker 7: they get into the White House.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because of cortosolt stress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think she's running, You think she's gonna

675
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Speaker 1: take that sendence instead.

676
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Speaker 2: I think the Senate, Yeah, I got it.

677
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Speaker 3: Interesting Congress someone and Napolion Luna, thank you so much

678
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Speaker 3: for don'tus really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you have fun here?

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Speaker 3: Cool.

681
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Speaker 5: David All right, didly.

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Speaker 1: Get lunky ud.

683
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Speaker 2: Like you know, Oh that makes sense.

684
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Prolude movement didn't start in nineteen seventy three.

685
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Speaker 2: Oh, we're rolling, Let keep keep going. I'm curious about this.

686
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Speaker 6: The Prolude Movement started on a cross outside of Calvary,

687
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Speaker 6: and all of life has been a battle for life

688
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Speaker 6: ever since.

689
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't.

690
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Speaker 6: Understand exactly the foundations of the West, and the foundations

691
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Speaker 6: of human exceptionalism, the sanctity of life, and the safeguarding

692
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Speaker 6: of the family. All of this comes from Christendom. All

693
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Speaker 6: of this comes from the Christian worldview, Joe, Bob. You know,

694
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Speaker 6: in John One it says the word became flesh. Yes,

695
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Speaker 6: and has made his.

696
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Speaker 1: Dwelling amongst us, and we've seen his glory.

697
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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Greek is the word logos became flesh. That's

699
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Speaker 6: the Greek logos meaning like we're rational. Yeah, we have language,

700
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Speaker 6: we have speech is what separates us from the animals.

701
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Speaker 6: So when the Bible says the word became flesh, it

702
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Speaker 6: actually means the logos, which is interesting because when you

703
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Speaker 6: read the ancient Roman kouks, well some of them are smart,

704
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: but so's Fauci. They were very dangerous smart men. Well okay, yeah,

705
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Speaker 6: we're going but you read.

706
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Speaker 1: Some of these people.

707
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Speaker 6: And in ancient Rome, logos was valued as the highest

708
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Speaker 6: thing in the social order. They placed the concept of

709
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Speaker 6: logos at the center of their politics and their understanding

710
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Speaker 6: of freedom.

711
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Speaker 1: And so it was the free born Roman male who.

712
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Speaker 6: Was believed at that time to have the greatest capacity

713
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Speaker 6: of logos.

714
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Speaker 1: And guess who was considered.

715
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Speaker 6: Bro to have very little or probably no sense of

716
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Speaker 6: logos whatsoever, and therefore were not declared persons in Roman law. Slaves,

717
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Speaker 6: babies and children, unborn babies, infants, broke three year olds

718
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Speaker 6: not considered to have logos.

719
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Speaker 1: So not only was.

720
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Speaker 6: Abortion legal in the ancient world, and not only did

721
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Speaker 6: they develop herbal and medicinal abortifations to kill babies in

722
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Speaker 6: the room like abortion goes back forever forever, but infanticide

723
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Speaker 6: like after the baby's born, totally legal. To leave an

724
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Speaker 6: infant out on an infanticide wall where they're starved to death,

725
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Speaker 6: eaten by animals, or rescued by someone who turns them

726
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Speaker 6: into a sex slave for the rest of their life,

727
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Speaker 6: or maybe, if that baby's lucky, rescued by a Christian

728
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Speaker 6: who raises them in a Christian family.

729
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Speaker 1: Okay, all of that was freaking legal.

730
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Speaker 6: So when Christ comes, he enters human history as a

731
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Speaker 6: baby and identifies with us with what was considered to

732
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Speaker 6: be the lowest thing on the social order that wasn't

733
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Speaker 6: a person and had no value. Yes, So in Christianity,

734
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Speaker 6: logos is not a concept. Logos is a person, and

735
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Speaker 6: that's what furnishes the idea of baby's rights, children's rights,

736
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Speaker 6: and protecting the family for the next two thousand years.

737
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Speaker 3: Okay, there's a lot of threads I'd like to tug there,

738
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Speaker 3: but also Seth Bruber, White Rose correct White Rose resistance,

739
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Speaker 3: just to get that out there, so we have that.

740
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're talking about anent Roe.

741
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Speaker 3: Not to provide any justification for that, obviously terrible, given

742
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Speaker 3: that the West is effectively, you know, Athens philosophy mixed

743
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Speaker 3: with the God of the Jews in Jerusalem, how much

744
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Speaker 3: blame can be placed on Rome who derived their ethics

745
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Speaker 3: from Athens without Jerusalem.

746
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Speaker 1: With no knowledge of that.

747
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Speaker 3: Again, not to justify it, but like I kin kind

748
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Speaker 3: of further makes the point of like you needed Jesus

749
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Speaker 3: in order to figure that out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

751
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Speaker 6: No, No, it's beautifully said, I mean even our Republican ideals

752
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Speaker 6: in forms of government, right, not not Republican Party, Republicans.

753
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Speaker 1: Yes, even that comes from ancient Rome. Yeah, so much

754
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Speaker 1: of the West does come from a lot of the

755
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Speaker 1: origins of the West.

756
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Speaker 2: Well, they figured out they were just missing the peace.

757
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Speaker 1: Because at missing a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Have you read Dominion.

758
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Speaker 6: By Tom Holland I have, dude, bro, come on, no

759
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Speaker 6: one knows that book. So here's the guy who's not

760
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Speaker 6: a Christian, right yet I think he's.

761
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Speaker 2: Like the Peterson in my mind, I was like, dude,

762
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Speaker 2: are you really yeah?

763
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Speaker 3: Really?

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: For people who don't know what we're talking about, you

766
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 6: guys got to read this book. And here's the guy

767
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Speaker 6: who's not a Christian, he's a bread and he basically

768
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Speaker 6: is asking this question, like what made the West?

769
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Speaker 1: What are the foundations of the West?

770
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Speaker 6: And where did we get these ideas of like women's

771
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Speaker 6: rights not meaning baby killing, but in the historical sense,

772
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Speaker 6: like women's rights the family, Like where did the West

773
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Speaker 6: get this idea of like like so focused on the

774
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Speaker 6: victim and the marginalized and standing up for the little

775
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Speaker 6: guy like and basically he just goes through all of

776
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Speaker 6: the answering, he goes like, yeah, you can thank Christianity

777
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Speaker 6: and the New Testament for all those.

778
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Speaker 1: Ideas, and he specifically says that.

779
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Speaker 6: Christians have forgotten, Well, I'm sorry Westerners have forgotten how

780
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Speaker 6: cruel the ancient world was. And he thinks, he says, like,

781
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Speaker 6: some people think that a lot of our concepts about

782
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Speaker 6: like the rule of law, human rights, and dignity come

783
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Speaker 6: from the Greek and Roman philosophers, and he specifically says

784
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Speaker 6: they do not.

785
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Speaker 1: They come from the New Testament. And most of us

786
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: have forgotten how much.

787
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Speaker 6: We've absorbed a Christian worldview, and we breathe in the

788
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 6: trace particles of Christianity that has infused our moral thinking,

789
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 6: and we've forgotten where.

790
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Speaker 1: It's come from.

791
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Speaker 3: And complacency, I think is the big factor there is

792
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Speaker 3: nobody understands quite one of the things that and not

793
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Speaker 3: to go off on another thing. One of the things

794
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Speaker 3: one of the arguments that I think not arguments revelations.

795
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Speaker 3: I had reading that book, which is like, you know,

796
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Speaker 3: but you don't really think about He was talking about

797
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: what's the Persian god a horror Mazda, And he's making

798
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Speaker 3: the case that every time in antiquity when a group

799
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Speaker 3: in power were to lose that power, the leader were

800
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Speaker 3: to you know, go right, that God kind of just

801
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: dissipated except the Jews, and he's like they persecuted for

802
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: a very long time. They get kicked out of this place,

803
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: they get overtaken by these people maintained their faith in

804
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Speaker 3: the singular god of you know, the Jewish faith. And

805
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: that to me was like, uh, yeah, knew that, never

806
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Speaker 3: thought about it in that way, And it was kind

807
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Speaker 3: of like a just oh like an ahama, a kind

808
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Speaker 3: of smaller part to the broader what call it like

809
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: the galloping history of Christian.

810
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Speaker 2: Something something like that.

811
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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful phrase.

812
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Speaker 3: So okay, so now that we're now that we're very

813
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Speaker 3: high level here, there's there's a book we talk briefly

814
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: before we start on here. There's a it's called a

815
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: conflict division, and Thomas Soul kind of makes the point

816
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: of like between the the constrained and unconstrained world views,

817
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: and and you can go a bunch of different places

818
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: with how you define that, but really it's it's I

819
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: see it as internal and external. And you've got the

820
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: left who believes that everything else we see there's that too.

821
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 3: You get the left who believes in externality and everything like, hey,

822
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: top down, this is how we should structure society. If

823
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: you don't like it, will force you to do it

824
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: by you know, violence, Whereas you have the constrained or

825
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Speaker 3: the internal that says, hey, I'm gonna govern myself as

826
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Speaker 3: ic fit in a line in accordance with God and Christianity,

827
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: and those two are consistently butting heads constantly. The question

828
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Speaker 3: I feel like I've been asking by self and the

829
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: other people is is their compatibility with those two world views?

830
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Speaker 1: Is that possible? Obviously?

831
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Speaker 3: You know, we want to hold discussions, We want to

832
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: talk to people who don't agree with us, but on

833
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: a fundamental level, people that don't kind of conform to

834
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: the internal verse the extion, How is there any how

835
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: do you bridge that gap?

836
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Is it even possible?

837
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean so the radical left of the radical right,

838
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: or the left and the right or conservatism and liberalism. Yeah,

839
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 6: there's never been That's why we're in this conflict today.

840
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 6: That's why the conflict's never been resolved. Yes, right, if

841
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 6: those two could have been merger, if we could have

842
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 6: found a way to live together, right, live and let

843
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 6: live kind of this utilitarian libertarian pipe dream.

844
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: It's never gonna happen. Why is it never gonna happen?

845
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: It's because those worldviews are fundamentally at odds with one another. Yeah,

846
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 6: And I understand it, Like I get if you're like

847
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 6: a normal American who likes semi pays attention to politics,

848
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 6: and like you're like, I remember the name Charlie Kirk,

849
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 6: but you never came to any events or got really

850
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 6: engaged in Look, why can't we just get along together?

851
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: It's like, because actually there are ideological, fundamental worldview differences incompatible.

852
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that are completely incompatible.

853
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 6: And I think this is what a lot of Christians,

854
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: in particular job I don't understand, which is so frustrating, right,

855
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 6: because like it was Christendom that built the West, it

856
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 6: was Christianity that gave us these ideas in the first place.

857
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: Christians, more than.

858
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 6: Anyone else, should be able to understand how irreconcilable all

859
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 6: of these are. And a lot of this really for

860
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: believers and for Americans, Joboub goes back to Genesis.

861
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: Dude.

862
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Speaker 6: I mean, we're given the dominion mandate. It's called the

863
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: creation or cultural mandate. I prefer to use the word

864
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: the dominion mandate, be fruitful, multiply, I fill the earth

865
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Speaker 6: and subdue it. Exercise dominion, which is not the same

866
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Speaker 6: as domination.

867
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Speaker 1: Dominion is a good thing. Dominion refers to stewardship. Yeah, okay.

868
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 6: Domination refers to oppression tyranny to dominate those under you.

869
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Speaker 6: Those are the two different, polar opposite visions. One is

870
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 6: more liberal, one is more conservative. And I think what

871
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 6: maybe now, bro people are starting to wake up and realize,

872
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: is like, oh yeah, when we don't exercise dominion for

873
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 6: righteousness and push back against evil.

874
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: Because we read too many Rick Warren books.

875
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 6: Or Andy Stanley or Kim Keller books, and I just

876
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 6: want to tell people Jesus loves them, but I'm not

877
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: going to do anything to fight against evil. Turns out

878
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: libertarianism is a bunch of horse manure, and the left

879
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: just dominates over everyone and everything and is not satisfied

880
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: until they're ruling and reigning in every culturally influential area.

881
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Because actually that's.

882
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 6: What we were created to do. Humans were created to

883
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 6: exercise dominion. So dominion is a reflection of your own

884
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 6: stewardship projected onto others. Domination is the reflection of your

885
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 6: own slavery projected on others. One is freedom, one is slavery,

886
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 6: And in each case it starts here first, and in

887
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 6: your own marriage and.

888
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: In your own family.

889
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 6: And that's why Augustin said a man has as many

890
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 6: masters as he has vices.

891
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not expecting to go here, but I'm

892
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: really just curious about your thoughts on the political relationship

893
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: with Christianity and this going back all the way. I'm

894
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: curious so Constantine christianizes the Roman Empire first to do so.

895
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure. I'm not convinced either way, whether

896
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: that was genuine in his heart or he saw that

897
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: as the direction the wind was blowing and made a

898
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: political decision.

899
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: But we still have that sort of thing today.

900
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: It's kind of and you know, obviously, you can't judge

901
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: the heart of another individual, and sometimes you can see

902
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: the political advantages for the movement that thankfully is seeing

903
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: a resurgent in Christianity in the country. I think there's

904
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: a revival that's happening, and I think that's a good thing.

905
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: How do you decipher who's co opting that movement and

906
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: trying to use it for political advantage and and again,

907
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: this is a this is a question that's been happening

908
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: since what three hundred BC or sorry, Ad, I'll just

909
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out.

910
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: Okay, who's who's genuine in this?

911
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 6: What?

912
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: How do you how do you sort that out in

913
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: the modern age?

914
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's diffine. I mean, listen, you'll know. You'll know

915
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: a tree by its fruit. And and when there's really

916
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 6: good spiritual fruit that seems to be being birthed in

917
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 6: a politician's life who claims the name of Jesus, we

918
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 6: should celebrate that as as as.

919
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Evidence of a real heart change. We can never know

920
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: for sure.

921
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but here's one of the things jobob right that

922
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 6: happens with baby Christians, right, is they do a lot

923
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: of good, but then their blunders are equally magnificent. That's

924
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 6: true of every baby Christian, especially if they have power

925
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 6: and they're influential, and then they become a Christian. They're

926
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 6: following Jesus, they're fearless, usual, they're very passionate, and so

927
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: some of the good they do is above and beyond

928
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: what normal believers can accomplish for the kingdom. But then

929
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: their blunders are just as equally astounding. Yeah, and that's

930
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 6: always been the case, and so a lot of people

931
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: think that about Constantine was just like as a baby

932
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 6: Christian's like man, there was a lot of good and man,

933
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 6: there was a lot of like, oh boy, that's right.

934
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: But with the White Rose resistance job.

935
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: But we believe that unless the church flatulant becomes the

936
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 6: church militant, it will become the Church irrelevant. And by militant,

937
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: I don't mean ar fifteen's, although I'm saving up for

938
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: you know, but I mean like militant for righteousness, militant

939
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 6: for the Kingdom of God. And so until the church

940
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 6: gets back to a to looking itself in the mirror

941
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 6: and saying I have to take personal responsibility not for DC,

942
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 6: but for my city and my county where the Lord

943
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 6: has put me, because that's how the left has taken

944
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 6: over everything. By the way, the left didn't have a

945
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: utopian dream of like going to d C and dominating

946
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 6: all fifty states. They talked about their strath. It came

947
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 6: from Antonio Grahams Sheep. He came out of the Frankfurt School.

948
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 6: They moved the Frankfurt School to Columbia University because a

949
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: lot of the Frankfurt School guys were a German Jews,

950
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 6: so they actually feared Hitler. So that's why the Frankfort

951
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 6: will move to Columbia University and they become the fathers

952
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 6: of the Radical Hippie movement and the Radical Yippie movement,

953
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: and they later become tenured professors at American universities. Chalker

954
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 6: and Graham she would talk about this. He talked about

955
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 6: the strategy of the robes. It was an idea later

956
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 6: developed further by Herbert Mark Hughes. Wilhelm Wright came out

957
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 6: of the Frankfurt School. Herbert Mark Hughes became the disciple

958
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 6: of Angela Davis. Angela Davis became the disciple of the

959
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 6: co founders at BLM. Notice when Christians don't disciple the

960
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: next generation with pure and undefiled religion, discipleship still happened.

961
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: It just happens for wickedness. And the whole idea of

962
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 6: the strategy of the robes was We're gonna win the

963
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 6: robes of the academy, the robes of the clergy, the robes.

964
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Of the higher scientific organizations.

965
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 6: And Max Horkheimer from the frank The School said the

966
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 6: revolution will happen without guns. We will incrementally take over

967
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 6: their institutions, transforming them into Marxist egalitarian institutions.

968
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: So like, this is not like red.

969
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 6: Meat for the base. It's not a way to rile

970
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 6: up maga. It's not like we're trying to overstate our case.

971
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: The left openly spoke about all the Marxist revolutions where

972
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 6: we resorted to violence failed because nationalism eventually came on

973
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 6: the rise. Capitalism lifted the proletariat out of squalor and misery.

974
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 6: So no one wanted economic Marxism because they're like, well,

975
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: capitalisms that get pretty great. So they just translate that

976
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 6: to cultural Marxism. Say everything over, take over the institutions

977
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 6: that change the foundations of culture.

978
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Bro.

979
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 6: That sounds like the dominion mandate flipped upside down. That

980
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 6: sounds like what we were told to do in Genesis too.

981
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 6: And it all happens where locally, that's what we do.

982
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 6: We mobilize the local church to take back our job description.

983
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: See, And what I I kind of feel like the

984
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: problem in the modern age is the ability to say

985
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: that everything is subjective all the time.

986
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: I think, I think except the phrase that everything is subjective.

987
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: Well, I think, uh uh, who was abolition of man,

988
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: where as soon as Lewis makes the I mean the

989
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: first part of that is basically saying things are things are.

990
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: That subjective has been relativesm for men without chess.

991
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the problem. How do you fix that

992
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: in this society? Because you know you're called the pastors? Yes, yeah,

993
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: of course, bro Joe.

994
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 6: But did you know King George coined the term the

995
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: black robe regiment?

996
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: No?

997
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Have you heard this story? No? Have you heard of

998
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: the black robe regiment?

999
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: I have not?

1000
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 6: Okay, pro cool, Okay, So so far you've been throwing

1001
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 6: out bucks and I'm like, I got it. I'm trying

1002
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: to keep up with job. Sorry, no, no, so the

1003
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 6: black So you've seen The Patriot? Yes, obviously you're a man. Yes,

1004
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 6: and so an incredible film. Right, And remember that scene

1005
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 6: in The Patriot with Mel Gibson where the pastor wearing

1006
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: the clerical black preaching roads, stands up, takes off his

1007
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: preaching roads and reveals the uniform of the Continental Army.

1008
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: Okay, do you remember the scene?

1009
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 6: And while then he quotes from Ecclesiastes there's a time

1010
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 6: for peace, and there's a time for war, and now's

1011
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 6: the time for war, And then he tells all the

1012
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: men in his church congregation. If I'm paraphrasing you, little

1013
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 6: Andy Stanley Rick Warren pansies, you're gonna get up, You're

1014
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 6: gonna enlist in the Revolutionary War, and we're gonna make

1015
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 6: America free.

1016
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Baby.

1017
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 6: That's basically what happens, and that creates a whole regiment

1018
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 6: that still stands today outside of my pastor's church's friend

1019
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 6: Gary Hamrick's church in Loudon.

1020
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: County, Virginia. It's just down the road, okay.

1021
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: So it was the pulpits that were actually mobilizing the

1022
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 6: people to fight for freedom and liberty. And the role

1023
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 6: of the pulpit in the Revolutionary War was so blatantly

1024
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 6: obvious and dangerous to our English tyrants that King George

1025
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 6: said it was the and then he coined the term

1026
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: it was the black robe regiment that is to blame

1027
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 6: for us defeating. King George got it, Well, what's the

1028
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: black robe. It's the clerical preaching robe. So King George goes,

1029
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 6: darn it, Christian nationalists mobilizing their men to fight for

1030
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 6: freedom and liberty. Screw you. I'm like, that's the best

1031
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: endorsement you could ever get as a pastor. And a

1032
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: Christian when King George is like it was the pastors

1033
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: that were to blame for freedom and liberty in the colonies.

1034
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: Sucks.

1035
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 6: That's who we are, that's the heritage of the church.

1036
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: We've forgotten that. Well, so what do you do get

1037
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: back on track?

1038
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, pragmatically, okay, fine, what do you do in a

1039
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: real world scenario?

1040
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one, we actually need to make Islam and legal.

1041
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 6: Muslims don't get to come here because it's a domination religion,

1042
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 6: not a dominion.

1043
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: They will dominate everything.

1044
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the better Muslim you are, the worst you are

1045
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: for Western society.

1046
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: It's not good. We have to overturn Oberga Fell. The

1047
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 6: gays don't get kids. Children have a right to a

1048
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 6: mother and a father. I mean, some of the things

1049
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: are so bad right now that like we need immediate

1050
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: political legislative change for righteousness to stop some of this insanity.

1051
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 6: And why because, like, the family actually matters. And what

1052
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 6: people don't realize is that that Oberga Fell, the gay

1053
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 6: marriage decision to redefined parental rights removed a child's right

1054
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 6: to their mother and father. It was the gay marriage

1055
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 6: decision that brought us this insanity. Now where a single

1056
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: male pedophile can rent a poor women's unit. By the way,

1057
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 6: black and brown wombs are a lot cheaper than white wounds.

1058
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 6: In America, it's legal to buy humans again. It's legal

1059
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: to buy humans again in the West right now through

1060
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: big fertility and IVF as long as you're usually you

1061
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 6: have to be gay because you know, you know.

1062
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 2: Does that not work?

1063
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: What's the office does not work?

1064
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't work.

1065
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So usually you have to be gay.

1066
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 6: Uh, And then you have to sign a contract to

1067
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: buy a human before conception occurs. And then the only

1068
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 6: check that has to clear is not the background check

1069
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 6: that my wife and I would have to go to

1070
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 6: if we want to adopt. The only check that has

1071
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 6: to clear is the check you write to the bank.

1072
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: So why does all that matter? Because if we don't

1073
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 6: restore and protect the family unit, the nuclear family in America,

1074
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: you can't make America great again. It all starts there.

1075
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 6: So I mean, I mean, you said, like, well, how

1076
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 6: do we do that?

1077
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: That's a kind of a big questions.

1078
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: But we have to awaken the pulpits of America again.

1079
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 6: And that's that's everything we do. We're focused on the

1080
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 6: local church. We make beautiful films. Do you go up

1081
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 6: to inspire and remind the church who she used to be.

1082
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 6: There's this beautiful verse in Psalm eighty eight twelve. It

1083
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: says righteousness cannot be done in a land of forgetfulness.

1084
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 6: It's like, Simba, we have to remember who we are

1085
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: before we can save our land.

1086
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: That's great. I was I was well while you were talking.

1087
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: I was thinking, hey, well, well, the what are the

1088
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: cynical political angle of this, Like, how do you actually

1089
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: mobilize the politicians in order to go do that sort

1090
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: of stuff?

1091
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Because obviously, yeah, legislation is.

1092
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 6: Well, we've all seen the numbers, right of evangelicals who

1093
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 6: don't vote, oh yeh, or the evangelicals who are not

1094
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 6: registered de vote. We're the largest voting block in the country,

1095
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 6: meaning we have the biggest political gut, but we don't

1096
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 6: swing it around. We don't use our power, the representation

1097
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 6: of conservative evangelicals, we don't use it. And that's why

1098
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 6: like people like Charlie, people like you, people just like

1099
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 6: Benning says, all just call call your local representatives, annoy them. Yeah,

1100
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 6: but the hell out of them, because we know that

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Speaker 6: they respond to that. You know, people said, like the

1102
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 6: overturning of Roe is gonna be political suicide.

1103
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Republicans are going to lose everywhere.

1104
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 6: Remember you protect the unborn, you go too much about babies,

1105
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Speaker 6: You're gonna lose every election, you stupid Republicans. So just

1106
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: walk the Trump line of you know, let's just keep

1107
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 6: it legal, let's let's make let's make early abortions great again.

1108
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 6: Did you know every state that started passing significant pro

1109
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 6: life laws after the overturning of Roby Wade, every single

1110
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Speaker 6: one of those gained Republican seats in the House.

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00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: In the next election.

1112
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 2: Yep, wasn't the wasn't the political suits.

1113
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Speaker 6: They all bull crap everything we were told about, Like,

1114
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 6: just play really soft on the biggest freaking issues that matter,

1115
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 6: like ripping the arms off of children. Just focus on, like,

1116
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 6: you know, lowering tax rates. Don't talk about the family,

1117
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 6: the baby, pro life stuff. It's a it's a loser

1118
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 6: at the ballot box.

1119
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. No, No, it wasn't.

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00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 6: We gained seats in every state that passed big pro

1121
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: life bills after the overturning of Roe.

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00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 6: Because most Americans are not ass hats. Most Americans are

1124
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 6: not as dumb as Pete budaches. Most Americans know, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: maybe we shouldn't kill babies.