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Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Tuesday, and it is a good,

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Speaker 1: good Tuesday. Herd Hierarchy one hour from now and Nick

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Speaker 1: Wright joins us too. We are live or in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Seasons greetings, perfect holiday weather here wherever you may be

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Speaker 1: and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us

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Speaker 1: part of your day. Jmac. That looked like a seven

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Speaker 1: on seven summer camp drill for Brock pretty last night

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Speaker 1: he was slinging it. The forty nine ers have not

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Speaker 1: San Francisco last night, let's talk about it. Here's what

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Speaker 1: drives me nuts. I could spend the next five minutes saying, Ah,

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Speaker 1: they beat Indy. It's one of the easiest bets on

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Speaker 1: the board. Christian McCaffrey had twenty seven touches, six catches,

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Speaker 1: twenty one carries seventh time this year, he's had twenty

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Speaker 1: more than three, and he's a twenty nine year old

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Speaker 1: with an injury history. The game was out of reach.

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Speaker 1: They already have two fewer days to prepare for a

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Speaker 1: very good team Chicago, and that game means something for

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Speaker 1: the Niners. Christian McCaffrey next week will blow through Saquon

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Speaker 1: Barkley's touches of last year, which if you've watched Saquon

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Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at most touches among teams

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Speaker 1: in playoff positions, McCaffrey not only leads the league, he's

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Speaker 1: a mile ahead of number two James Cook. So congrats

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Speaker 1: to Brock. Perty best game as a pro the last

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Speaker 1: two games for Perty, and he deserves credit. He finally

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Speaker 1: looks healthy now. Mac Jones was good, Garoppolo's good. This

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Speaker 1: The other thing is, congrats on beating forty four year

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Speaker 1: and congrats to me because I went four to zero

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Speaker 1: running back with Kyron Williams, they're shuttling him back. Have

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Speaker 1: you noticed the Bears using both running backs? Have you

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey twenty seven times in the niners four losses this year,

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Speaker 1: they have all been games in which the week before

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Speaker 1: they go zero to four. He's the third best running

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Speaker 1: on beating Philip Rivers. But now George Kittle is hurt.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't think Kittle matters, listen to this.

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Speaker 1: The last two years, Kyle Shanahan has a losing record

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Speaker 1: when George Kittle doesn't play. In fact, if you take

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Speaker 1: the most valuable player in this league that is not

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Speaker 1: They haven't punted since November. Brock it was a seven

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Speaker 1: Shanion's brilliant. What are we doing Here's christian.

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Speaker 1: of the year in the NFL. So when Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: The thing people are criticizing USC and Lincoln Riley because

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Speaker 1: but play it on your terms. I said, I'd keep it.

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Speaker 1: and can manipulate their schedule, which SEC teams can't, which

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Speaker 1: If that was your course load, that would be trigonometry, physics,

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Speaker 1: And Notre Dame's like, no, we stand on principle. It's

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Speaker 1: So Notre Dame's got side deals. USC doesn't, Alabama doesn't,

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Speaker 1: That's a tough game. They'll be favored in every single game.

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Speaker 1: And and you're you're upset at USC kive me a break.

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Speaker 1: The SEC was always tough. Then they threw in Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Tech coach Joey Maguire said when Notre Dame got left

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Speaker 5: You hate to eliminate anybody, but I do think that

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Speaker 5: So and I'm gonna make Notre Dame. But being a

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Speaker 5: They're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'm tired of the special treatment and I'm

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Speaker 1: I love Marcus Freeman, I love the university. I wish

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Speaker 1: You're not a full member. You have the weakest schedule.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, when you play a schedule like yours,

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Speaker 1: we stand on principle'll give me a break. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is, and this is so embarrassing, so discouraging, it's

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Speaker 1: hardly worth mentioning. But when I hear all these USC

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Speaker 1: people say, well, Lincoln Riley is not a trojan, that's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Was was Pete Carroll a great trojan? Before the run?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know Nick Saban was a defensive back for

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Speaker 1: Bama was Dan Lanning, an Oregon guy in the seventies, eighties, nineties,

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Speaker 1: Bob Stoops, an Oklahoma guy, held Daboswineytt Clemson's Obama guy,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman at Notre Dames, and Ohio State guy. That

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Speaker 1: is so embarrassing. I don't even want to mention the

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Speaker 1: people who mentioned it, and there were dozens. Stop. You

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Speaker 1: just hire the best guy available. When Lincoln got the job,

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Speaker 1: it was a great high. It was overwhelmingly thought of

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Speaker 1: as an upgrade. Nobody went well, they missed on that

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Speaker 1: he's not a USC guy. Nobody said that, No reasonable

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Speaker 1: side deal weaker conference. I can't believe Notre Dame didn't

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Speaker 1: have a noter. I like Notre Dame, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great university. But you know, stuff, folks,

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Speaker 1: the world changes. When Saban ran his dynasty, two things mattered,

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Speaker 1: SEC Championship and Hoist Trophy, two things. That's it all

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Speaker 2: I love that. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the NFL suspending DK Metcalf of the

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Speaker 6: Reduce the suspension from two games to one, the Steelers

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Speaker 4: I don't care what this guy says. You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean it's I think for NBA players

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Speaker 6: You tell me if there's anything in common with these guys,

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Speaker 1: Listen the thing about this, there's an argument the guy

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Speaker 6: Actually, Colin, they have been in a bit of a

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Speaker 10: We find the ways to win.

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Speaker 10: But it takes a component of complimentary football is all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what. I will say that teams

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Speaker 1: So I think Philadelphia, I've got him in my top five,

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Speaker 1: I like Philadelphia in this game?

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Speaker 4: Any I don't know how the Bills are favored here.

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Speaker 6: I'll just say this because I had some fantasy implications

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Speaker 6: in that Bills Browns game. After Josh Allen got hurt

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Speaker 6: in the second half, he was not even close.

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Speaker 1: To the offense, did nothing.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how serious it is, but getting X

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Speaker 6: rays at halftime means it must be serious. And one

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Speaker 6: final note, it looks like Lane Johnson could return for

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Speaker 6: Philadelphia this week. He is instrumental on that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Is that you pick that up?

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Speaker 6: Very good, little sharp wager there? Yes, all right, final story, Colin, listen,

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Speaker 6: two days in a row. We're talking about the Jags. Yes,

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Speaker 6: it's true that Jack listen. Well, Liam Cohen talks trash.

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Speaker 6: We got to do it now. Remember he made the

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Speaker 6: comment about, hey, a small market team coming in, which

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Speaker 6: was a jab at Sean Payton, who started it.

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Speaker 4: You know what I like to say when someone tells me.

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Speaker 6: Someone talks trash to me, Hey, don't start something you

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Speaker 6: can't finish.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: So Sean Payton responded to Liam Cohen yesterday.

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Speaker 11: My press conference, and it was very complimentary and those

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Speaker 11: guys are playing outstanding football, and so that topic came

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Speaker 11: up strictly because hey, not enough the country has seen

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Speaker 11: how good these guys are playing. Listen, that was a

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Speaker 11: good job by Liam. He's looking for a rallying cry.

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Speaker 11: But obviously, if you're listening to the press conference, the

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Speaker 11: intentions were strictly, Hey, quietly, these guys are sitting here

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Speaker 11: right near the top of the AFC yor ready to

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Speaker 11: win their division. And look, I spent sixteen years in

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Speaker 11: a small market, so it was just a way for

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Speaker 11: a coach to take it in use the day's advantage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, the AFC South and the NFC

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Speaker 1: South are almost College football is more popular in those

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Speaker 1: regions than the NFL. I mean, I remember going to

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl in Jacksonville, and the Friday before the game,

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Speaker 1: they had the top fifty high school football players where

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Speaker 1: are they going to college? They had some like some

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Speaker 1: like recruiting story on the front page next to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl preview and like, so nothing against Jacksonville. It's

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Speaker 1: a great place to live, great beaches, great golf, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a college market. It's a Florida Gator market,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same with the NFC South when I

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Speaker 1: was in Tampa. It's Gator seminole territory. They love their box.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But when I say New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: as many people think LSU football as they do Saints

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Speaker 1: and so, what Shawn's way basically saying is, you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody pays attention to that division, munch and nobody pays

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Speaker 1: attention to Jacksonville. And He's right. It's a small market,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a college market, and I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that until I went there. Nice people, biggest county in

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Speaker 1: the country, I believe, Ta County. Yeah, okay, if.

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Speaker 4: You say so.

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Speaker 6: Who's more dangerous in the AFC playoffs? Jacksonville, Denver.

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Speaker 1: I'd still rather face Liam Cohen than Sean Payton in

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Speaker 1: a playoff game, and Liam's great, But I.

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Speaker 4: Who which quarterback would you rather face?

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Speaker 10: It?

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Speaker 4: Or Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 1: I think they're both capable of winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: I like them both.

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Speaker 6: Wide receivers Broncos or Jacks, probably Jags right now. Better

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Speaker 6: running back Broncos are Jags Jags. Okay, look at the

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Speaker 6: defensive front and again Josh heinz Allen and company, they're

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Speaker 6: getting after Trayvon Walker. Well, I mean, listen, this is

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Speaker 6: a lot closer than people think. I know that Jacksonville

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Speaker 6: waffle house territory, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 4: This is a dangerous team.

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Speaker 6: Just just low that they're going to be chucking and

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Speaker 6: ducking in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: College. There is nothing wrong with waffle house.

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Speaker 4: I got engaged in a waffle house.

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Speaker 1: Say there. Somebody once told me when I had never

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Speaker 1: been to Tampa, and I said, I didn't know the

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Speaker 1: Tampa area when I was younger, And I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you get to Tampa? He said, fly to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and just follow the waffle houses.

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Speaker 6: Oh, listen, Tampa is the strip club capital of the East.

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Speaker 1: Coast to Yeah, I'm aware, that's a fact.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tampa, it's a big time.

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Speaker 1: The oldest people in the country live in Tampa. Their

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Speaker 1: grandparents live in Saint Peter's, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news.

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Speaker 1: And stopping by the line news, I've got my Florida

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Speaker 1: jokes down pat there. So I read a This is

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Speaker 1: a topic that's very mathy, but it's worth three minutes

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Speaker 1: of your time. So I saw a headline today that

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Speaker 1: they said, are the Bears capable of getting to a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl? I don't know. I think they're capable of

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Speaker 1: getting to a conference champampionship. But here's the topic that's

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Speaker 1: not real sexy. But Caleb Williams, for all his talent,

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Speaker 1: is twenty sixth in quarterback cap pit, meaning what percentage

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Speaker 1: of the team cap does the quarterback eat up with

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Speaker 1: his salary? You want to know who else is in

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Speaker 1: his range? Aaron Rodgers, Sam Darnold, Bownicks, Drake May, brought

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Speaker 1: pretty in CJ. Stroud. Yeah, a playoff quarterback so far.

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Speaker 1: So it's one of the things nobody talks about. Eight

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Speaker 1: of the current eight division leaders have a quarterback cappit

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Speaker 1: of sixteenth or lower. Look at it right now. I'll

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Speaker 1: put it up the division leading quarterbacks. Drake May twenty ninth.

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Speaker 1: Biggest cappit Aaron Rodgers, who, by the way, could have

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Speaker 1: been much greedier. He was holding the Steelers over a

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Speaker 1: barrel and because he didn't take more money they could afford.

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Speaker 1: You know, the running back from Philadelphia and DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, seventeenth, Bo Nicks thirty fifth, Jalen Hurt sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams twenty sixth, Bryce Young twenty second, Sam Darnold twentieth.

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Speaker 1: So I love Ben Johnson and I think Caleb's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But I've been saying this all year with the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Look at their offensive roster. PFF has him as the

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Speaker 1: third best offensive line, number one rush game, excellent tight

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Speaker 1: end Lovelan and Cole Comet, Dj Moore, Roma Dunze hasn't

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Speaker 1: even been healthy. Luther Burden, So they Chicago the story

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Speaker 1: of Chicago. Yeah, we love the coach, but when you

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback cap pit sixteen seventeen or below, the

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Speaker 1: only big cap pit right now that's on a great

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Speaker 1: team is Matt Stafford. Stafford's a top five cap hit.

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Speaker 1: That's the only big quarterback cappit on an elite team.

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Speaker 1: And part of that is the Rams have drafted so

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Speaker 1: insanely well, I mean, they've gone three years in a

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Speaker 1: row and nailed every defensive draft pick in the first, second, third,

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Speaker 1: fourth round that they've gotten away with it. But it's

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Speaker 1: I know it's Mathew, but DK Metcalf is not a

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Speaker 1: Steeler Kenny Gainwell is not a Steeler. Perhaps if Aaron says,

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Speaker 1: give me twenty million more this year and he had

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Speaker 1: the Steelers over a barrel. The untold story of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers is Aaron wanted to win games, not by another house.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, Aaron's willingness to say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: this isn't about money, I'm gonna go and have a

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Speaker 1: blast in Pittsburgh is undervalued. Because that's why the Steelers

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Speaker 1: roster has a couple extra guys on here's Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: this week on trying to hit their goals for the season.

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Speaker 12: There's never been a eleven win team to not make it,

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Speaker 12: and so that was kind of we felt pretty good

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Speaker 12: about that being the number going in the season. That

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Speaker 12: was step one. Step two is is we want to

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Speaker 12: win this division. We want to have a at least

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Speaker 12: one home playoff game, and then step three would be

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Speaker 12: Clinton number one seed. So there's a lot of things

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Speaker 12: still out there to play for our guys know that.

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Speaker 1: Arguably the game of the week next week is the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears go West take on San Francisco. They played Saturday, okay,

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Speaker 1: and the Niners played last night. And the Niners played

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Speaker 1: a road game, in a late road game, so it's

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Speaker 1: a big advantage. McCaffrey twenty seven touches almost thirty. They

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Speaker 1: targeted him a couple times and he didn't touch the ball,

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Speaker 1: So heavy workload for CMC. We'll see if it's punitive

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Speaker 1: against the Bears. To me, what is really the game

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Speaker 1: of the week Next week?

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 1: Okay, So new information can often lead to new opinion.

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Speaker 1: Not all the time, but you know, we get up,

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Speaker 1: we prep for the show. We're looking for new information.

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Speaker 1: So with a lot of these young quarterbacks like Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Dark bow Knicks, Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Young Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: they they are highly mobile and I have said for years,

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Speaker 1: use it until you can figure out the offense. Bow

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Speaker 1: Knicks made the playoffs as a rookie Caleb Now with

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Speaker 1: a real coach, is could be the number one or

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Speaker 1: two seed. Jayden Daniels was the greatest rookie ever and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's MVP. So it takes a while for defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators to figure out, who are you like, what do

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Speaker 1: you do? So Jackson Hart Dart his third start was

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday night football game, remember that, and he

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Speaker 1: played the Eagles. The Eagles had no idea what he was.

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Speaker 1: He ran them all thirteen times, he had a touchdown

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Speaker 1: sixty yards. He looked unbelievable, and they just they didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to prepare for. It's like, what is he

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Speaker 1: gonna do? Well? If you notice something, if you look

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Speaker 1: at Jackson Dart's first six starts, kind of magical fifteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: four picks, passer rating mid nineties, whoa have you noticed

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Speaker 1: his last four really one dimensional, eighty two passer rating,

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Speaker 1: no wins. People have a book on him. So flashy, cool, fun,

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Speaker 1: new creative. Now you could say, well, Lamar jack Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: This year is the first time we've said, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't escape like he used to. Bone Nicks still get

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Speaker 1: yards whenever he wants to with his feet, so does

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Speaker 1: Caleb Jaden Daniels little thinner, but Jaden Daniels his entire

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Speaker 1: rookie year was magical. So my take with Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: by his seventh start, people had a book on him

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't look the same. That's what the numbers

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Speaker 1: are telling me. He and Skataboo were a dynamic duo.

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Speaker 1: Scataboo leaves. They still run the ball pretty well. But

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Speaker 1: here's Mike cof Go, the interim coach, saying, I don't

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Speaker 1: see anything.

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Speaker 13: I don't see that as a regression for Jackson to

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Speaker 13: be it. Sure, maybe the numbers aren't what they had

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Speaker 13: been in the past, but I think he's playing well.

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Speaker 2: He's playing at a high level.

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Speaker 13: There's certainly things that he can continue to improve on,

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Speaker 13: and we've talked through those and as a group too.

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Speaker 13: But when I look back at it, it's really this

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Speaker 13: is eleven man operation on offense. So it's not about

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Speaker 13: one person's production or it's about the whole group. We're

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Speaker 13: full throttle ahead. Jackson's run the ship, that's no question

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Speaker 13: about that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So HBO has this mid season hard knocks and

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, a defensive head coach for Washington. Did you

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Speaker 1: see Dan Quinn on the most recent episode. I'll read

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Speaker 1: you the quote he said, the last piece, guys, this

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Speaker 1: quarterback when he's out there, he's a running back first.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. He's a running back first. This

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Speaker 1: hit by the Patriots, he's not looking to go down

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Speaker 1: and get the slide. We got to go out there

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Speaker 1: hitting fellas. He's a running back first. So I think

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Speaker 1: he does throw a decent ball. But it is interesting

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Speaker 1: his first six starts, in his last four, it's like

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Speaker 1: two different quarterbacks. So whereas these other highly mubile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a couple of years before you know

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Speaker 1: there's a book on him. Does the NFL have a

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Speaker 1: book on him? Not saying they do, and just something

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Speaker 1: when I see the headline has he regressed? You look

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Speaker 1: at the numbers, you'd say, yeah, yes, Now you know

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Speaker 1: I was talking about notre earlier. Marcus Freeman is I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I had to start a college football program and

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Speaker 1: I could pick any coach to start it collegiately, I

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Speaker 1: think Marcus Freeman is way at the top of the list.

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Speaker 4: There's about five guys. The look, the.

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Speaker 1: Energy, the recruiting, the smarts, the in game changing, he's

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Speaker 1: really good halftime adjustments. I like everything about him. It's

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Speaker 1: not his fault. Notre Dame schedule is ridiculous. But there's

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Speaker 1: a story today that he is leading on the list

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Speaker 1: of New York Giant coaching candidates. And this is an

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Speaker 1: interesting thing. I don't know Marcus Freeman personally. I've had

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Speaker 1: him on the show a couple of times. Huge fan,

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Speaker 1: But what matters to him if he seeks control and

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Speaker 1: a high winning percentage and comfort stay in college. But

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Speaker 1: I was saying this to the staff this morning, look

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame schedule. Take out the Miami game, Take

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Speaker 1: just the Miami game out. Wisconsin's now bad, Rice, Purdue,

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Speaker 1: Belichick's mess, Navy, BCSMU, SYRACU, Stanford not much of a challenge.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could do Vanilla schemes and go ten

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Speaker 1: and two. So I don't know him well enough, and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's my job to know him better. What matters

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Speaker 1: to him? If you want to challenge yourself, this isn't

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Speaker 1: it now? You could say, well, what about Nick Saban?

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban tried the NFL. He went from LSU crushed

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Speaker 1: AND's like I want to try it. Jim Harball, he

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Speaker 1: went back to the NFL. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys get bored. Is that if you get to

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Speaker 1: a blue blood. I mean, hell, Harball wanted Stanford. So

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Speaker 1: there's no question Notre Dame's nil is good. The recruiting's great,

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Speaker 1: the roster's excellent. You know a lot of people thought

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Speaker 1: they should have been in the playoff and Notre Dame's

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Speaker 1: got the money they're not going to get. I mean,

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Speaker 1: here was Notre Dames ad last week. He knows how

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Speaker 1: great an attractive freeman is as a candidate.

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Speaker 9: Everybody has eyes on Marcus. College has eyes on Marcus,

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Speaker 9: NFL has on Marcus. I bet Hollywood has eyes on Marcus. Right,

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the next you know,

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Speaker 9: Leo DiCaprio movies with Martin Scorsese. I view his contract,

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Speaker 9: although a multi year contract, is a living, breathing document

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Speaker 9: that we will revise every year as need be to

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Speaker 9: make sure he's where he deserves to be. He knows

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Speaker 9: he has that commitment from me and more importantly, from

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Speaker 9: the university.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smart, that's the way it should be handled.

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Speaker 1: He really is a top of the food chain. In

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Speaker 1: terms of I'm looking for a young, dynamic, aggressive, smart,

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Speaker 1: ethical recruiter. Boy, he checks every box. But it is

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Speaker 1: interesting when you look at the Notre Dame schedule, and

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is not an easy job. I mean, Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly used to say that. Now, Brian Kelly's wound pretty

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Speaker 1: tight and he got you know, he wanted a golf

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Speaker 1: by the end of it, you know, and a Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in LSU. I think Brian wanted to he wanted

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Speaker 1: a golf that's been reported, not just an opinion, But

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Speaker 1: when you look at that schedule and now USC is like,

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Speaker 1: we're not really interested, Well, how many games are there?

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Speaker 1: How many? How many SEC and Big ten teams? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys all think USC bailed on Notre Dame. Well,

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Speaker 1: what top team Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Bama, Georgia, LSU.

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Speaker 1: Why would you schedule Notre Dame. You're fully committed members

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Speaker 1: of a conference great conferences, the Big ten in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's what the schedule is mostly going

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Speaker 1: to look like. Now you can talk yourself in well,

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Speaker 1: if we make the tournament, but I mean, the only

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Speaker 1: game on that schedule that's super challenging personnel wise. The

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Speaker 1: Miami game in South Bend