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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Nick

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Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Well, it is an offseason version of

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Speaker 1: Mixed Shots, and I thought here inside the us WBC

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Speaker 1: It is exactly exactly what I was hoping this reministion

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Speaker 1: it's not for the Seminar Bowl. You know, we can't.

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Speaker 1: I love it, but you know, it kind of lifts

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Speaker 1: my spirits a little bit because gray outside. But it's

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Speaker 1: really not still Bray. No, it's not not today, not today,

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Speaker 1: not today. There's a reason that we are playing Stampede

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Speaker 1: because the off season starts now. And there's good news

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Speaker 1: here in cowboy Land. To William, the defensive coordinator is

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Speaker 1: staying still here. Dan Quinn remains a Dallas Cowboy. He

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Speaker 1: and so he is staying. And so that's why we

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Speaker 1: start off Mix Shots with stamping that is a that

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Speaker 1: is a really optimistic stretch there, William. But I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it that it's finally coming out from under

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Speaker 1: the cli. I can see a little slow glimmer, even

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Speaker 1: though it's a cloudy day you're in Frisco, Texas. There

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Speaker 1: is a light that we see and he was under.

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Speaker 1: I mean so many people were Interviewingham, planned interviews. He

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Speaker 1: He interviewed with the Giants, the owners, the president, the

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Speaker 1: new general manager, the vice president of player personality. He's

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville along that. Mostly he informed everybody. It's been

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Speaker 1: reported that he is pulling out and staying with the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I mean, he had the Giants, the Bears,

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Speaker 1: And I thought the Giants think might be real just

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Speaker 1: he interviewed well everywhere, Oh the guys from the Giants

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Speaker 1: dot com are our good friend. Schmelk called me and

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Speaker 1: we did an interviewed on Thursday when we were talking

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Speaker 1: what's his best quality? And I said, well, if he

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Speaker 1: they interview him in person, he will get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because of just his personality and resume. You're right, and

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Speaker 1: always just the way he sort of tiptoed into it,

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Speaker 1: I had this sneaky suspicion this is going to have

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Speaker 1: before he did any of the and just the way

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Speaker 1: he answered, I know that's what happened. Guys. Okay, See,

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Speaker 1: I was one of those guys came out of college.

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Speaker 1: I was never recruited from out of high school. It

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Speaker 1: was never a big deal. I didn't get any of

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Speaker 1: trip I got. He's just enjoying himself. He's being quoted.

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Speaker 1: remember when all this came up and he had this

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Speaker 1: If those moments come, I'll be ready for them if

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Speaker 1: the right scenario came about. But honestly, I'm having a

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Speaker 1: And so Nathanial Hackett now forty two years old. He

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Speaker 1: over the fourty. Oh there you go. Okay. I just

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Speaker 1: thinking or personal. Well that is personal. Yeah, that's two us. No,

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Speaker 1: And you saw a little Matt Barr. Matt Bar, you

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Speaker 1: He didn't no one walked in with him. He was

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Speaker 1: tell you my Joe Montana bar story from about that

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Speaker 1: same era. Wait, let me finish? Okay, So so did we?

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Speaker 1: I said, I said it was Elton John. It was

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Speaker 1: Billy joel Okay, I remember his famous song right about

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Speaker 1: then Catholic girls start much too late. They prohibited him

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Speaker 1: a little Joe Montana story. Okay. This was when the

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a late bloomer at Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: out during the ninety four minute press conference. This is

426
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: not retirement. We're not talking about retirement. He basically said,

427
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm stepping away. Don't know what I'm going to do.

428
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: But he basically pointed out that he thought at some

429
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: point it would involve football again, possibly coaching, but just

430
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: not this year. So you know what happened, right, what happened, Well,

431
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: everybody took two and two and got six at him

432
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: that the reason he was stepping away was to come

433
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys, and he was pretty specific about

434
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm not coaching this year. Pretty sure,

435
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: he said, pretty sure. So you know, he's got three

436
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: years left on a contract. But you never know how

437
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: the contract was written, because you remember it was two

438
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: years ago when this all came up again and they

439
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: basically did everything they could to keep him there in

440
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: New Orleans. So they may have given him a contract

441
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: that's not like anybody else's contract, right, because normally, if

442
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: a guy quits a team and he's still on the contract,

443
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: if you want him, you got to pay dearly in

444
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: draft choices to be able to do that, and I

445
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: would think for him the asking price would be a

446
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: well first round picks. Uh So, but who knows what

447
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: the contract says. He may have a clause in there

448
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: that you know, releases him right away. Yeah, who knows

449
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: arf he just sits out a year. Who knows that,

450
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, they can come back and do something else

451
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: the next year. So I would imagine this is going

452
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: to hang over the Cowboys head for quite some time.

453
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is gonna be the top of the offseason.

454
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: He's no doubt and the season. Yeah, um, you mean, like,

455
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: like so this is whatever if the Cowboys lose a

456
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: game past And he also went into that, well that's

457
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: how we've done broadcast one of our games, and he

458
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: put that's a disaster, right, He put that out there

459
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: by the way he said, you know, he goes, there's

460
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and he goes and let me set the record straight

461
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: on this. He goes, there's all these reports out there

462
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: that I'm going to jump into the media, radio, TV,

463
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: And he goes, you know what, I haven't talked to anybody.

464
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: And he went on to say he called his agent

465
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: and said, am I missing something? But then he said,

466
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: but you know what, he said, I think I would

467
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: like to do that, and I think I'd be good

468
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: at him. It wouldn't be exactly. He didn't didn't need

469
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: to be any conversation right now, you can just tell

470
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: he did. How long was that press conference? Ninety four minutes? Okay,

471
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: there you go, yeah, right, and you know what, he

472
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: answered every question and they kept coming. At some point,

473
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm going people are going to run out of questions? Right?

474
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: How much more can you ask him? How is he?

475
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: How was he in each of his press conferences? Is

476
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: he that open? He about his He apologized for how

477
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: he was when he first got there because he had

478
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of Bill Parcel's in him when he

479
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: started right, and probably after went in a super Bowl.

480
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: After the Super Bowl, he lightened up and evidently they

481
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: started a new deal there. It was a Christmas Every Christmas,

482
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: there was some sort of ice cream shop in New

483
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: Orleans that was famous, and he sent ice cream to

484
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: all the media guys that covered the team every year.

485
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Somebody asked about it, right, or we're gonna still get

486
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: our ice cream? He goes, oh, yeah, sure, I'm not

487
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: going anywhere. You probably talked with Jimmy Johnson somewhere along

488
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: the way. Yes, I'm sure figured out. Okay, here's how

489
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: you get the media on your side, right, and you

490
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: go during training camp, right after practice, go across the

491
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: street to that Mexican restaurant restaurant and drink a few

492
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: hide Kens with the media, and you'll get him on

493
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: your side. He actually went to went as far as

494
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: to say, I appreciate every one of you talking to

495
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: the guys that were asking questions. And you know, it's

496
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: not a big media contingent, right, you got basically one

497
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: newspaper naturally, two Baton Rouge counts covering you, and then

498
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: the smaller papers in the outside area. It's a smaller

499
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: market in New Orleans, and you know. So, but yeah,

500
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: he uh, he's gonna, he's gonna he's another guy he

501
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: gets in the room, he's gonna talk walking into hiring. Yeah.

502
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: But so it's whatever he wants to do. But he's

503
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: going to get a broadcasting job, and it's going to

504
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: be a high profile one. And I think he's going

505
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: to be so good at it that he's going to

506
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: make so much money doing NFL games. Why do I

507
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: want to work this hard right coaching? Right? And and

508
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: it may be a studio, who knows, But I think

509
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I like him as a TV person. I think I

510
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: would like him in the booth doing games or so

511
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: than in the studio. Yeah, because he has all the knowledge.

512
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: He's got a romo thing. They see the field. There's

513
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are in the booth. They

514
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: don't see the field. They see the ball, but they

515
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: don't see the field as as fans. We only see

516
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: the ball, right, So then the guy I need him

517
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: help me out. Yeah, he's gonna let you see further

518
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: into the play. How old is he about? Eight? Okay,

519
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: but he seems younger than that, yes, you know, and

520
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: so uh you don't you know, just thinking about it,

521
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: you don't see very many obviously, John Madden was an exception.

522
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: You don't see very many coaches go into the broadcast

523
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: booth calling game. There's usually former players that are doing that,

524
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: and the coaches go to the studio. Yeah, you know,

525
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: it's like Cowe. Gruden was an exception to Bill Kower. Yeah,

526
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Cower studio right, but yeah, yeah, studio not color though, no. Yeah,

527
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: analysts yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think Peyton would be

528
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: one of those that if he's and he seems to

529
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: have the energy to do it. You know. Obviously the

530
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: difference on that is you're traveling to different stadiums whatever.

531
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: I would think that they would like that. But he

532
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: even threw out a He even threw out a Ted

533
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Lasso mentioned. Now I've never seen it. I haven't there's

534
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: something that Lasso does. He gives the owner maybe cookies

535
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: or something like that. And so when he first started,

536
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: he said something about ted Lasso, and he goes, yeah,

537
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: but you know, we don't have cookies here in New Orleans.

538
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: We have Benyas. And he got up and he had

539
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: a box of Benyas and gave it to Missus Benson,

540
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: who is the lady owner. Right, And and so that

541
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: that's going to endear him even more to TV executive, Right,

542
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Any pop culture references that you can make, Yah, Yeah,

543
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: because that that brings the non sports fan with all

544
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: the other stuff that's happening now with um is it Amazon? Yeah,

545
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: And there's talk that they're talking with Aikman about Amazon.

546
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I guess the Thursday games. I'm not that an ABC

547
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: with l Michaels for Monday night. So Amazon is going

548
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: to be sponsoring. They've got games, they'd be streaming games

549
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: right Thursday nights. And so so there's there's talk that

550
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: there that they might hire Troy to be their analysts

551
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: and then there would be an opening at Fox and

552
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: on the A team. And so that's Thursday Night games,

553
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: is it is? I'm not sure. I thought that's what

554
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: they were separate streaming it. I don't think it's the

555
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: only way to get it. But I thought I was

556
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna say, they're streaming with their own broadcast team, yes,

557
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: and so we can pick it up on I think.

558
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, they're going to force come on,

559
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not happening as well. They're doing it,

560
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and you know they're doing it here locally, right, Yeah,

561
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: you don't if you don't get Bally Sports, you don't

562
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: get the Mavericks or the Stars. M that's right. What

563
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: is this world coming to? Money? Money? That's right. So anyway,

564
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, the Peyton thing, uh, you know, and and okay,

565
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: so here to clear that up. And I'm just looking

566
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: at a story on Troy. Uh. He becomes a broadcasting

567
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: free agent after Sunday, okay, and he is weighing offers

568
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: to return to Fox, jump to Amazon Prime and do

569
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: the new Thursday Night package on that streaming service, or

570
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: do both. Okay, So there's a chance he would do

571
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: both and and and and there was a report the

572
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: other day al Michaels is kind of in that loop there.

573
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if his contracts up at NBC, but

574
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: they're kind of looking at him too. So anyway, I've

575
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: seen this out there, and I went and did it myself.

576
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: This comparison between Sean Payton, what he did in New

577
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: Orleans what Mike McCarthy did in Green Bay, it's very similar.

578
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: It is the numbers, it's eerily similar. And by the way,

579
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: he told the story that when he was here after

580
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: he finished the O five season with the Cowboys, he

581
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: interviewed for the head coaching job in OH six with

582
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: the Packers and McCarthy got that mccarthury ended up getting

583
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: And he said he had gone had the interview, was

584
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: in New Orleans for the interview there, and he said

585
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: he got a phone call from Ted Thompson, the GEM

586
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: and he said the phone rang and I saw the

587
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay area code, you know, and he goes, oh,

588
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the Packers job, right, you know.

589
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: When he grew up in suburban Chicago, went to Eastern

590
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: ill Oh yeah, Naperville, Naperville, Illinois, and and he's going

591
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: and he got all excited, and they called him to

592
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: tell him that they went a different direction. He said,

593
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: I took my phone and I threw it in the pillar. Right,

594
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: at least they called it, and then he got the

595
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Saints job, right. So anyway, so Peyton and he won

596
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl before McCarthy did. The year before they

597
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: won back to back oh nine, and then and then

598
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: twenty ten. The McCarthy so fifteen seasons in New Orleans,

599
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: he went one fifty two eighty nine a six thirty

600
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: one percentage. Thirteen seasons in Green Bay, McCarthy went one

601
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: twenty five, seventy seven and two a six eighteen winning percentage.

602
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: Sean was nine and eight, and post games season postseason games,

603
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: McCarthy was ten and eight. They each won a Super Bowl,

604
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: each had Hall of Fame quarterbacks. They each had Hall

605
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks. You got that right, um Peyton. Peyton

606
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: won seven division titles with the with the Saints and

607
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: played in three NFC title games. Um Mike ended up

608
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: with four NFC UH title games, went one in three

609
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: and six division titles, so they almost were exactly in

610
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: those years. Someone asked him about his ongoing UH tussle

611
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: with referees and bad calls doing crucial games. I'm sure

612
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: someone asked him his opinion on, Yes, asked Sean Payton

613
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: about his opinion on those don't plays that Yeah? Really

614
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: they really? I mean, I don't think think think he

615
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: got he got it did not. What's the word I'm

616
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: looking for in that Minnesota game? Yeah, what's the proper word. Yeah,

617
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: that's what I was. That's what you're looking for. But

618
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, when you think about that, that that defined

619
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: his career for the most part, as much as Katrina

620
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: right defined their career as a team. He's right, he's

621
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl again, and then they'd be

622
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: ahead of McCarthy. Then he would be aheader, right, And

623
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: just think about that, man, I mean, and it wasn't

624
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: and that played, that non call was against the Rams.

625
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't against the Rams right there, right, Yes, From

626
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: then on, he's that seemed to be a pattern every

627
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: time they got into a big game, the referees throwing

628
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: some crap on them in their complaining, just like the

629
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys about how the referees are always school in

630
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: the Saints. So you're wouldn't be in favor of him

631
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: coming to Dallas. Then if the referees are going to

632
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: keep that, he would have to consider that stuff, and

633
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: he should consider before he makes his decision if he

634
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: wants to come back. Right to your point, Mickey Um,

635
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: going by that track record, they all already have Sean

636
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Payton here as the head coach the game from from

637
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: a record standpoint, very similar. Well, I think I think

638
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: what happened was there was this perception that Peyton, you know,

639
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: Sean took him to the Super Bowl every year, or

640
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: they had all these went. Now. The difference though, is

641
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: the Packers had get this note, the Packers had thirteen

642
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: consecutive winning seasons are now thirteen consecutive seasons of at

643
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: least five hundred until two thousand and five when they

644
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: went four and twelve. So from nineteen ninety two to

645
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, well, they had Brett Farve, and

646
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: they had Brett Farve Peyton when he got to New

647
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Orleans the Saints from nineteen ninety three to two thousand

648
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: and five, eleven of those thirteen seasons, we're not winning

649
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: seas we only had Saints. They only had two in

650
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, nine and seven in two thousand.

651
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: They were ten and six, and they hadn't won a

652
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: division title since nineteen ninety one, and so during those

653
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: years were again what for which one for the Saints

654
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: ninety three through two thousand, all right, and their quarterbacks

655
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: were Wade Wilson, the late Great Wade Wilson, Jim Everett,

656
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Heath Schueler, Billy Joe Hobert, Doug nuss Meyer for one

657
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: game in nineteen ninety seven, Terry Collins, Danny Werfell, Billy

658
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: Joe Tolliver seven games in nineteen ninety nine, and Billy

659
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Joe Hobert for seven games in nineteen ninety nine, Jeff

660
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Blake in two thousand, Aaron Brooks until two thousand and four,

661
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: that's when Mike McCarthy was there, and then final and

662
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: so Aaron Brooks was the quarterback until Drew Brees got

663
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: there in oh six, is when Sean Payton got there

664
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: as well. So they had those quarterbacks and the Packers

665
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: had Brett Park and from when that was from ninety

666
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: three through six. So Steve Burline before that, boom boom hoop,

667
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys traded him. See Walsh, Steve Walsh, Yeah, Walsh,

668
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: you're thinking good time was John furkde in there too.

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Four quarterback, he was Uh at least did a game

670
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: or two, and I love eighty seven through ninety. In

671
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, after being traded from the Cowboys to the Saints,

672
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: Walsh started eleven games in four kade five games, but

673
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: he took them to a division title in ninety one,

674
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: and the Saints wanted. The Saints want to sign me

675
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Uh as an undrafted free agent. They were one of

676
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: the teams, the Buffalo bill keep those Louisiana guys, the

677
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Grambling Gay. They thought I was gonna fall for it.

678
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Did you get a recruiting trip? No, I wasn't gonna.

679
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: They didn't offer me a paper bag to go up

680
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: with my trip, so I was no way I was

681
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: going to New Orleans with That's all. I remember his

682
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: bags on the heads, so it's no way I'm going there.

683
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: So okay. Sean Payton had a lot of success with

684
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: New Orleans with Drew Brees as his quarterback, Mike McCarthy

685
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: with first Brett Farve, then Aaron Rodgers, and now as

686
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: you look ahead to the conference championship games. Who thought

687
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was a good coach until last year when

688
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: he got Joe Burrow, who knew him exactly right, And

689
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the great coaches in history, right

690
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: Belichick ed Brady. When Jimmy Johnson got this job as

691
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys head coach, I remember because my twin sisters,

692
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: she was a huge Cowboy fan and just loved Tom

693
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Landry and she was so mad and her being an

694
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: OU grad, they hired Jimmy Johnson and oak Club is

695
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: state coach to coach. And I said, here the other

696
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: thing about it, he's going to be successful right off

697
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: the bat because he's about to be coaching Troy Yman

698
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: and one right off the bat. But yeah, poor Troy

699
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: when they always have to put everybody's records out there,

700
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: that old and eleven really kid rookie year. I'm sure

701
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: the money he's getting right now that put a nice

702
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: band aid on his feelings. All right, We got one

703
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: more segment to go here on mix shots about we

704
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: look back and look ahead these playoffs and you know

705
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: everything you noticed, Mickey's got his playoff beard going now right,

706
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: go at it. That's how the research he's been doing.

707
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Speaker 1: Let's try. We've got more mix shots. In just a

708
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710
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746
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: got a legal pad you got papers strewn all over

747
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: the desk over there. Before we get into the what's

748
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: going on in these playoffs? Is there anything else that

749
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: you would like to bring up that's on your padge?

750
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: They got so much stuff here. If not, we'll proceed on. Okay,

751
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: go ahead, let's do this. And I went back, you know,

752
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: and everybody is so distraught over the Cowboys loss, right,

753
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: your feeling that ain't all that? And because they went

754
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: twelve and five one to division, Well, when you go

755
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: back and look at it, the Cowboys half of those

756
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: victories were against the NFC East, helping them to attend

757
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: and two NFC record. The only conference losses were to

758
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Arizona. What do they have in common there?

759
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: Both playoff teams? Correct? The Cowboys when playing teams with

760
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: winning records, went five and four, but two of those

761
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: were over the Eagles, and we saw what the Eagles

762
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: were in their first round of the playoffs. The Cardinals

763
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: were in their first round, and the Eagles didn't play

764
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: that last basically that last, which they probably should have, right,

765
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: So they went seven and one against all the other

766
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: teams Denver was the only team with a losing record

767
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: to to to beat them, or that's the only one

768
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: they lost to. And when it came to games against

769
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: eventual playoffs teams, they finished three and four, and two

770
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: of them were against the Eagles, and the only one

771
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: they beat was New England. And we saw what happened

772
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: to them in the playoffs and in the regular season losses.

773
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: In three of them, the Cowboys gave up thirty something

774
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: in each game, thirty one to Tampa Bay, thirty to Denver,

775
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: in thirty six in overtime to Los Vegas, and in

776
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: those games they got beat, but they ended up scoring

777
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine on Thanksgiving against the Raiders, in thirty three no.

778
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Twenty nine against Tampa Bay, and thirty three on Thanksgiving

779
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. So we saw a pattern of what

780
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: took place in that playoff game. The other pattern we

781
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: saw were in the games that they got beat, they

782
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: didn't rush for more than eighty two yards, and what

783
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: happened in the playoff game. They had trouble running the

784
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: football and also the majority of their takeaways were against

785
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: teams that had losing records. So I know we're all

786
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: shocked at what happened. But I think we ignored the

787
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: facts on some of the stats that really stuck out

788
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: in the game. And when I when I was talking

789
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: about the running in the twelve wins, the Cowboys rushed

790
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: for at least one hundred and eight yards in eleven

791
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: of those. The only one they didn't was the Dacklas

792
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: game against Minnesota, they ran for seventy eight. San Francisco,

793
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: by the way, ran for one hundred and sixty seven

794
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: yards in the five losses Tampa, Bay, Denver, Kansas City, Vegas.

795
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: In Arizona, the teams rushed for where is it at

796
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: regular season ran for at least one hundred twenty yards

797
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. So what happened in the play off game?

798
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: They got run on. So you know, if you look

799
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: at if you just look at all that stuff, it's like, yeah,

800
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: it was shocking they got beat. But I think we

801
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: ignored some of the warning signs. No we didn't, spags,

802
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: not in this room. We didn't. Not in this room.

803
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: We didn't. You've given us more than enough information to

804
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: where we could see this coming. You know, we tried

805
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: our best to give you know, some type of encouragement,

806
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, some type of light at the end of

807
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: the tunnel type of thing. But that's not the way

808
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: it was in this room. We always felt that there

809
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: were gonna be issues every time that we started to

810
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: lose the game. I think it's because our youth defensively

811
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: that stops us or prevents us from making good adjustments.

812
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Once we go off the rails defensively, I think our

813
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: youth does not allow us to make those adjustments, and

814
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: we kind of panic mentally, we lose our poise. There's

815
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: no more structure in what we're doing that comes from

816
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: a lack of youth, and that's something that the coaches

817
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: Quinn is going to have to work on as they

818
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: get older. You have to depend on your more experienced guys,

819
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: put them in position to make plays during those blowouts

820
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: to where we can't stop anyone. And then we end up,

821
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: of course, with the same pattern of a comeback, and

822
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: we have to make a comeback, and the comeback is

823
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: very difficult because we can't run the ball, which is

824
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: the reason that we're in the position that we are

825
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: in the first place. So now you've got your offense

826
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: trying to get down the field. Hurry up, no huddle

827
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: is the only thing that we have at our disposal

828
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: when you cannot run the ball. So the pattern was there.

829
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: We saw it every time it was mentioned on this

830
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: show more than once. So that's just the weakness that

831
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: we had to live with last year. We're going to

832
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: have to continue to live with that weakness as we

833
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: go further on in the future. See, and I think

834
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: you have to take into account It's like, did teams

835
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: gang up on the run and the Cowboys couldn't expect

836
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: to four the Niners? They did exploit it with throwing

837
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: the ball against basically cover two? Or is the design

838
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: of the runs not what it needed to be, Or

839
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line played well and wins and they didn't

840
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: play so well on lossus and they didn't play well

841
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: in that playoff game, right and and so I just

842
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: think there's got to be a big circle on that

843
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: offensive line right now. I agree with that. Yes, you

844
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: can't get past this fast. It is what it is.

845
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: We you know, we we try to always offer a

846
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: reason for it. We always try to offer some type

847
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: of solutions, but that that has nothing to do with

848
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: what they're thinking on the field. Yeah, you know, it

849
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: sounds good for us to see that pre and say

850
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: we gotta do this, you gotta do that. At this point,

851
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: they are what they are. And we started to always

852
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: realize that because we were always happy about the I

853
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: think our most our best moment in this in this

854
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: room was when we beat uh when we beat the Patriots.

855
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: You remember that, who was so happy about how you

856
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: know they had they had one and in Boston for

857
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: a minute and all that kind of stuff. So you

858
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: we had those moments, but they were very they weren't consistent, right,

859
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: and they in talking about those takeaways. So they finished

860
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: tied for first turnover differential with a plus fourteen, but

861
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: in the in the five losses, they were minus one

862
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: in takeaways, and in that playoff game it was zero one.

863
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: And and and let's let's let's let's also realize what

864
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: it is. We are extremely on discipline. So our youth

865
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: keeps coming, it keeps popping its head up, Our inexperience

866
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: keeps popping his head up. There are games and moments

867
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: in the games where we can fuss about all our shortcomings.

868
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: But if we would have just not committed that big

869
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: penalty on third down, not commit that big penalty on

870
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: a huge run, that penalty in position for a field goal,

871
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: not commit that penalty when we're trying to get out

872
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: the end zone area, and now you're putting us back

873
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: further because of a holding call. We are an extremely

874
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: undisciplined team when it comes to penalties, and I don't

875
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: know who to look to for that. You look to

876
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: your head coach, of course, But if I'm looking at

877
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: my offensive line, then what's my old line coach teaching them?

878
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: You know what? What kind of shortcomings is he dealing

879
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: with that they cannot overcome? Because those penalties put us

880
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: in the hole that we're in now. And let's just

881
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: be real, the penalties of the reason we're not playing

882
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: right now. And as Everson's pointing out, the Cowboys led

883
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: the league in penalties. I never thought I hear that, right,

884
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: we have led the league and penalties, and what happened

885
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: in the playoff game fourteen fourteen, So we are what

886
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: we are. We are what we are old denigree. Now,

887
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if we have

888
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: time to do this, but we were talking before we

889
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: started the show about how the Rams were able to

890
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: get to the ball and spike it with four seconds.

891
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: So here, here, here, here, here's basically what happened. If

892
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the back judge in that Rams game,

893
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: thirteen year veteran Todd Prukop, they would have never got

894
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: that forty nine yard field go off to win the game.

895
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: The Rams were at their own forty four yard line,

896
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: snapping the ball with twenty eight seconds remaining, Stafford completed

897
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: the pass to Cup for forty four yards forty four

898
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: yards to the Tampa Bay twelve. When Cup went down,

899
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: I was watching on the replay. There were twenty one

900
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: seconds left in the games and the Rams were out

901
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: of time out. So with the clock running, here are

902
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: the Rams making a mad dash for forty four yards

903
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: right offensive to try to get there to stop the clock.

904
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: That's where that's where the forty yards. That's where the

905
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: forty yard time time comes in. Now that's right, combine,

906
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: go to the combine this way. That's the one time

907
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: that it matters that it offensive lineman can run a

908
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: five flat, so they were able to. They got there,

909
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: got set and spiked the ball and five seconds so

910
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: there was four seconds left, five that long five seconds.

911
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: That's when they got He made sure everybody was that

912
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: got to the ball with eight and he just made

913
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: sure everybody was set. And then the last guy from

914
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay came diving off line, so he wasn't off sides.

915
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: So uh so, basically they got it spiked the Cowboys.

916
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: If we look at the last ending, the ending of

917
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: the San Francisco game, the Cowboys were on the San

918
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: Francisco forty one quarterback draw with fourteen seconds to go,

919
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: Dack sliding in at the twenty four for just a

920
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: seven teen yard game. And when he slid there were

921
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: nine seconds left, right, And I went back and looked

922
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: at it, and so Tony Romo's yelling find the ump,

923
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: find the yump, and it was like, well, Tony, guess

924
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: what the jump wasn't there, right? He didn't show up

925
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: to like two seconds left, and his only seventeen yards

926
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: and he didn't have that fire to go. Well, here's

927
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: the difference. The umpire in the Cowboys game was coming

928
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: from twenty eight yards away. When Cooper Cup went down,

929
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: the guy closest to the ball was the back judge,

930
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: and the back judge spotted the ball. So the ball

931
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: had already been spotted with like fifteen seconds to go

932
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: in the game. You know that's because they realized a

933
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: mistake was made in allagame. I wonder if they looked

934
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: at me and I was talking. I was talking with

935
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: an official college guy, and he basically pointed out that

936
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: if if the ball is close enough to the back judge,

937
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: he spotted. The back judge in the Cowboys game was

938
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: standing on the goal line twenty expecting a Hail Mary.

939
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: I guess right, And he didn't move. And in this game,

940
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: he was expecting what everybody else at the stadium was expecting,

941
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: to throw to the end zone. Job, is he gonna defended? No,

942
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: but he's got to be back there too. He got

943
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: a call pass interference or whatever, but he had to

944
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: get back there. I mean he kind of ran up right,

945
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and and the guys, you're going to be behind the defender.

946
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: But my point is the back judge when you were

947
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: looking for the more might trying to be a smart alect.

948
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: The most invaluable guy for for the Rams was that

949
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: prow cop because he spotted the ball and then backed

950
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: up to where he needed to go. Because that umpire

951
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: and then back up. And they need change that rule

952
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: because they changed it previously when they did move the

953
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: umpire behind the offense in the last five minutes of

954
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: the game, they put him back behind the defense, knowing

955
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: there could be hurry up situations, right, And then they

956
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: changed that and said, no, you're back there all the time.

957
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: It's a safety safety and so I would imagine. So

958
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: that's my rule for bad judge to spot the ball

959
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: is because he he knows he's going to spike it

960
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: and he'll t have time right after the time match.

961
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: But with the hill Married, like you were saying, everybody's

962
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: looking for the hill Mary, so he's like, I'm not

963
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: running up to spot the ball because i gotta be

964
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: back here. Then the play didn't come to him as far.

965
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, but had they spiked the ball in time,

966
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: then he could have backed up for the hill Married, right.

967
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, I just I noticed it when I watched

968
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: the game. I said, look how far they went in

969
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: that little bit of time. They need bigger reporters to

970
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: go in and talk trash. Y'all are scared. I wish

971
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: I was a reporter. You want to be the reporter.

972
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: They're like, I know you guys talk to the guys

973
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: in Gallas. So that's why you guys fix things up

974
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: for us from this particular game and everything ready for it,

975
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: because I know y'all talked about it. I want an

976
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: answer right now, and that's what I'd be said up there,

977
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: way Nord, We'll have to talk to the Pro Football

978
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: Writers Association and just nominate. Let's get in there to

979
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: be the reporter that they're pucking. Y'all. Man, y'all going there,

980
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: look at these little guys, y'all in all sheep's like,

981
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: can I have an answer? Get out of here? Man?

982
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one more question? Man? Have some

983
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: more By the way, there's there are reports out there

984
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: CD Lamb is going to be added to the Pro Bowl.

985
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: There are another glimpse of sunlight. Yeah, I think when

986
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: we go outside, if the sun just so, we are

987
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: going to convene. And by the way, also that took

988
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: place in this last week. Randy Gregory had his niece scope.

989
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: He had some loose body is in there or something

990
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: they cleaned up. So he should be ready for the

991
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: start quote of the off season. Yeah, and what's his

992
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: contract status? He is a free agent unrestricted free agent

993
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: strictly probably should take up a segment of our yep

994
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: and so in our next show, which will be Monday,

995
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: Monday thirty we're switching out next week Monday, so we'll

996
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: be wrapping it up thirty, so it'll be our first

997
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about the Super Bowl match up and

998
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: which will be who will be playing in the Super Bowl.

999
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: I think the Rams are going to be in the

1000
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against I think the Rams are going to

1001
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: go against Kansas City. Okay, Rams, Chiefs there, what do

1002
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm going to take the Niners in the

1003
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs and I'm going to take the Niners and the

1004
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs too. They got something going. I think they scare

1005
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: the Rams in about it. I don't think they're going

1006
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: to scare them twice or three times. Did you see

1007
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: what they're doing at so far? They they the Rams.

1008
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: If you're trying to buy a ticket, man, and is

1009
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: that messed up off of their off of their website, yeah,

1010
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean the secondary marketing, do what you want, but

1011
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: off of the Rams, uh set ticket office. They're checking

1012
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: zip codes in them. It's not in the LA vicinity

1013
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: because there's no Niner fans that live in LA. Right, yeah, right,

1014
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: because that's what happened. Right. It wasn't like they all traveled,

1015
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: but they do travel well, No, but they still they

1016
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: lived there, all right, just like they lived here. All

1017
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: the people come in here with their all their money,

1018
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: selling their houses and buying houses here twice the size

1019
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: for the same amounts. Yeah, that's why they were all here.

1020
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: But that really didn't make much of a difference. Although

1021
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: I did see some red in Green Bay. They actually

1022
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: made it. My business partner made the trip that was

1023
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: bugging the heck out of me. The Cowboys. I'll tell

1024
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: you what. That was a bucket list thing for him.

1025
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say no. But if you had a

1026
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: bucket list to go see a game in Green Bay

1027
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: and wanted to see what Green Bay was, why we

1028
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: got cold weather and you got snow. Yeah, yeah, that's what.

1029
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: Why why would anyone have that on their bucket list?

1030
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 1: Because they saw the Ice Bowl and they said, well

1031
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: that was cool unless you had to play in the

1032
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: dark game. All right. So that does it for this

1033
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: edition of mix Shots, and we will be back at

1034
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: you on Monday. It will not only be your first

1035
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: chance to hear about the Super Bowl matchup, it will

1036
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: be your first chance to talk about the Senior Bowl

1037
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: as well, which next week. All right, So we'll chat

1038
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: at you again on Monday. Here on mix Shots Cowboys.

1039
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1040
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,600
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