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Call eight six six four six 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: to visit Commonwealth dot com to learn more. No major 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: indicators today. The Chicago Fed National Activity Index is out 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: at zero point to eight. That's up from a negative 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: zero point three four in December and as much better 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: than the survey of a negative zero point one zero. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Not sure how much it tells us about what's actually 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: going on the market. US Manufacturing p M I do 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: out later this morning. Marks Andy is with us now, 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: And of course Mark is chief economist at Moody's Analytics, 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: and he keeps track of all things going on around 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: the world. Which makes him the perfect person to follow dodcasts, 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: who suggested that we may have about a thirty five 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: chance of recession and is extremely worried about the stagnant 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: economic growth prospects for the world and what central banks 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: are or are not doing about it. Mark, would you 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: share the pessimism, or at least the lack of optimism 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: about where we are going over the next six months 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: to a year, Well, I'd be I'd be a bit 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: more optimistic, you know, subjectively, put the odds of recession 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: in the United States that's somewhere between fift no. Globally, 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: there's more concerned. Uh, And I would concur with some 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: of the worries about what's going on overseas. But here 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: in the US, I think we're fine, We're okay shape. Well, 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: are we able to be an island and we continue 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: to grow if the rest of the world is having trouble. Yeah, 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I think we're the engine of growth. We're driving the 36 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: train now and it's really the American consumer that's driving 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: the train and the American consumers doing their part. Growth 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: last year was very strong. Real consumer spending growth was 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: over three and as we've been seeing in the recent 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: data retail sales, vehicle sales, housing activity. I think the 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: consumer is going to continue to do their part. You know, Tom, 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: this reminds me of well is it about a decade ago? 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: I remember a book came out called Flying on One 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: Engine is an Ancient Home. Immediately went to the bargain visions, 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: get copies. Tom Keane put that together. Um, look at 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: how the United States was the only engine of growth. 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: Well there's another engine. Europe is okay too, you know, 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not gangbusters in Europe, but they 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: are growing solidly and uh, you know, I think everything 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: suggests that they'll continue to push forward. So it's not 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: just the US. But but you know, your sentiment is correct. 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: The global economy is is troubled. Mark. I want to 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: go back a little bit within your optimism and and 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: your immense chops and the books that you've done on 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: the New American Century and such, what happened in the 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: last two years. You were a great optimist, not an outlier, 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: but but you were looking for three percent plus real 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: GDP growth. You even voiced and I don't want to 59 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: put in your mouth, but you've voiced a four percent 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: real maybe six percent nominal, it didn't happen. I'm fascinated. 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: What's your why for what we've experienced? A good question. Well, 62 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's interestingly not. The job market has done 63 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: better than I would have thought. Yes, we pret more jobs, 64 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: unemployment fell faster, we've gotten back to full employment, are 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: close to pretty quickly. Wage growth is picking up. So 66 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: if you look at the economy to the prison of 67 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: the labor market, no problem. You know, we're doing very 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: very well. So the you know, the the arithmetic suggests 69 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: that the reason that uh that I'm i was wrong 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: without GDP is productivity PRODUCTVTY growth has been very weak 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and it has not picked up. And you know that 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: goes to you know, some pretty deep questions as to 73 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: what's going on. My sense is that we will see 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: productivity growth pick up, but that's still very much a forecast. 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I knew you would go there. And if you tear 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: apart capital dynamics, labor dynamics, in the strange thing total 77 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: factor productivity, which is which did we miss on? Well, 78 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's all of the above. Uh, 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, my sense is here, I'll give you a 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: statistic um. When we look at the productivity it's the 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: top line numbers non farm business productivity, and since the 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: recovery began six net years ago, that's grown just under 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: one percent per anum over the periodest for context that 84 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: we've nonfarm business product has grown two percent for him 85 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: on ever since World War Two. So that's you know, 86 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: half the growth, less than half the growth. But if 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: you look at non financial corporate productivity, so think about 88 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: that for a second, non financial so exclude the financial sector, 89 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: and the non corporate sector productively growth has been one 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: point seven percent prematuring recovery. That's that's what I would expect, 91 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: one point seven percent. So what's going on? I think 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: it boils down to There's lots of reasons, but I 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: think the key reason is what the financial sector has 94 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: been going through a post crisis, because of the crisis 95 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: and because of the change in the regulatory environment. I 96 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: think that's the key weight on productivity. Can you tell, um, 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: when we were talking about this with Brad Hints about 98 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: how the financial sector has been hurting, can you tell 99 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: whether the troubles in the financial sector in the you know, 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: corporate Treasurer's office, uh in the chief financial officers office 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: are affecting the economy. Yeah. I mean the financial system 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: is like the circle source system of the real economy, right, 103 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's credit flows are a key to growth, 104 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: to innovation, change, business formation, you know, all those key 105 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: dynamics are vital to productivity growth. So yeah, I think 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: if the financial sector is impaired or adjusting in ESSENSI 107 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you know, the banks are big banks have gone from 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: have had to significantly increased amount of capital they hold. 109 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not arguing that's a bad thing. I mean, 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: our banking system is now a fortress, but uh, you 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: know there is a cost to that, and I think 112 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: it's been morted in productivity growth. We'd like to get 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: sewn more. Is we wander through and into the summer. 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Marks Andy with his Moody's analytics, and uh really look 115 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: forward to talking to him through the rest of the year. 116 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: His title us macro look no recession, he meanss no 117 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: words about it with with optimism is well, um, we're 118 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna come back. Let me do a data check, Michael McKeen, 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: I are sorting out the Monday morning here. Uh, futures 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: up twenty down, futures up one seventy five euro one ten, 121 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: twenty six is a weaker euro with dollar Uh strength 122 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: um sterling is as sterling is really headline one forty 123 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: sterling one fort is weaker Uh. This morning, this hour 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: of surveillance has brought to you by Volvo Cars, White Planes. 125 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Visit Volvo Cars, White Planes dot Com. Here's John Tucker 126 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: with headlines all right, Michael and Tom. 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Jimmy Howard had twenty 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: nine saves to Henrik Lundquist twenty two, but it was 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: a defenseman of all people, Kevin Klein, who netted the 159 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: game winner one nothing in overtime. It's it's a different 160 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: game obviously, and we don't practice it really, so it's 161 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: it's it's tough, and you just have to make sure 162 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: when they've got the part defensively or on the right 163 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: side of your guys, because you know, two on one 164 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: like that can can turn to the two one, you know, 165 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the other way. So it's difficulty try and you know, 166 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: just make the most of your opportunities when you get 167 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: a chance. It was Klein's fifth goal of the year. 168 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: As the Rangers are just one point behind Florida for 169 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the second seed in the East, they visit New Jersey 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. The Aisles also played Tuesday in Minnesota. The basketball, 171 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: the Nets fell to eleven and twenty two at home 172 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: of the one on four ninety six lost to Charlotte. 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, who led the way with a double double, 174 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: wanted this one bad as a team gears up for 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: a nine game road trip. We had a great concentration 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: in certain parts of the game tonight, and uh, we 177 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: need to come with as much as possible. You know, 178 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: we're definitely going to stick together, obviously, being on the 179 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: road so long and just take it a game at time. 180 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: The Nats won't return to Brooklyn until March thirteenth. Nick's 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: entertained the Raptors of seventh thirty. Jimmer Fred debt he'll 182 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: join the team on a ten day contract. College Troops St. 183 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: John wiped out a nineteen point deficit at home, but 184 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Isaiah Whitehead hit two game winning free throws as Seaton 185 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Hall beat the Red Storm sixty one, and NASCAR Danny 186 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Hamlin won the closest finish ever at the Dayton of five. 187 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: And that is your NBC Bloomberg Sports Update. Mike Don Rabushka, 188 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: thank you so much again. Share to the market. I'm 189 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: noticing curve flattening as well. Coming up, we're gonna continue 190 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: our discussion with markus Zandy of Moody's on a most 191 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: interesting American economy. 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