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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This

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Speaker 1: is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be I think it's gonna be the last new

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Speaker 1: episode of Weird House Cinema for the year before we

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Speaker 1: return in the new year. And it's pretty exciting because

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Speaker 1: we essentially have one last holiday selection here. It's one

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Speaker 1: safely say at this point it's it's my steem for

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Speaker 1: this film has built up over the years, over the decades,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm I'm at a level of

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Speaker 1: just maximum appreciation for it. Now Christmas with the Cranks.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, uh no, we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties Russian fairy tale spectacular Morosco, better known

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Speaker 1: to many ends in the West as Jack Frost. I

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Speaker 1: think it's sometimes called Frosty or Father Frost. You might

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Speaker 1: recall our mention of this film and the past episodes

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Speaker 1: of Stuff to Blow Your Mind that touch on things

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Speaker 1: like mushroom culture and Russian folklore. Now, I did not

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Speaker 1: know that it was called Frosty, but that would make

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Speaker 1: sense because immediately I think of how some people I

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Speaker 1: don't do this, by the way, but some people who

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Speaker 1: get the frosty is at Wendy's dipped the French fries

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Speaker 1: in them. And this movie is very much like that.

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Speaker 1: It is a is like a salty fried potato products

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Speaker 1: dipped into something sweet and cold on the tongue. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It is a mash up of different kinds of fairytale

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Speaker 1: of weird, magical elements of folklore. Now, of course, if

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Speaker 1: you grew up in the United States, particularly during the

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Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, then your introduction to this film I think

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Speaker 1: it was likely through Mystery Science Theater three thousand, episode

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Speaker 1: eight thirteen, which aired in ven. Uh. This was a

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Speaker 1: riff of this film. Um. But if you grew up

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Speaker 1: in Russia or in parts of Eastern Europe, then this

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Speaker 1: movie was likely far more than a weird oddity for

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Speaker 1: your amusement. Uh. This may have been your holiday viewing tradition,

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Speaker 1: either around Christmas or New Year's In fact, in the

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Speaker 1: late nineties, I remember that this would have been not

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Speaker 1: too long after it Actually an MST episode actually aired

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Speaker 1: I I was. I instantly loved it. Um, I couldn't necessarily,

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Speaker 1: I think the beauties about Mystery Science Theater three thousand is.

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Speaker 1: Like I've said before, I feel like you kind of

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Speaker 1: showed many of us that these sorts of films existed

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Speaker 1: and taught us at least some ways of appreciating them. Um.

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Speaker 1: But but anyway, I really liked the episode. And I

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Speaker 1: was hanging out with um a friend from high school

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Speaker 1: some reason I either described this episode to them, or

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Speaker 1: perhaps I actually showed them part of the episode, like

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Speaker 1: I put it on a VHS tape or something, and Marcatta,

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Speaker 1: the student told me, instantly recognized it and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: this this is the film we watch every year. This

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Speaker 1: is our Christmas tradition, Um, that they show it on

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Speaker 1: baby Jesus lowering gifts from heaven on a golden string. Now,

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Speaker 1: on one hand, that is very strange to me because

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Speaker 1: But now seeing it again, especially without the Mystery Science Theater,

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Speaker 1: nothing against the MST version. I think it's a lot

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Speaker 1: many extra dimensional colors. I think you're entirely correct. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember when we had this conversation, but you were

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Speaker 1: And this movie is beautiful. Uh, it is, truly. It's

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Speaker 1: But when it is so bright and so beautiful, and

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Speaker 1: as both nineteen sixty four films. Okay, yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is essentially a big budget folklore spectacular

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Speaker 1: It has the personification of winter, it has the the

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Speaker 1: much much more. So in terms of an elevator pitch

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Speaker 1: The other way I'd frame it is always be polite

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Speaker 1: to magical old people you meet in the woods. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just universal. All right, maybe we

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Speaker 1: hide and seek with me now you yes, are you

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Speaker 1: a saucerer? Granddaddy? I dabble into us for a little.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is that I get bored. You get bored.

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Speaker 1: hide and seek together with you? Play hide and seek? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that a bargain? It's a bargain, Father Mushroom, Okay, just

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Speaker 1: least with some singing. Yeah yeah, And it's possible I

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Speaker 1: year that concerns Russian folklore. UH. These were points made

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Speaker 1: find lots of animal stories. Frequent villains include Baba Yaga,

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Speaker 1: the movie Morosco or Jack Frost actually seems to smash

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Speaker 1: together number of different fairytale archetypes. But I would say

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Speaker 1: tale known as moros Co or Father Frost, which appeared

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Speaker 1: I thought it would be great to actually, just uh,

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Speaker 1: to read through a version of the Father Frost fairytale.

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Speaker 1: And this is the version collected by the Scottish poet

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Speaker 1: which was I believe his last film and I think

427
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: another director had to had to complete it for him.

428
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: But that is a film centered around the Bobba Yaga

429
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: as well. Well, it is no surprise at all that

430
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: this filmmaker has a long running uh affair of the

431
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: heart with with the Witch of the Woods, because the

432
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Babba Yaga in this movie is wonderfully realized. She lives

433
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: in a house that walks around on legs, and all

434
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: of her scenes are just pitch perfect. Yeah, all of

435
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: these films feature similar folkloric threads, uh you know, because

436
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: for example, Bobby Yagas pops up in four of them,

437
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: um Yvan is in two of them, kas is in

438
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: two of them, and some of the same actors pop

439
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: up in several of his films as well. Discuss So

440
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: so basically, the deal seems to be that that Row

441
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: popularized the epic folkloric fantasy film in Russia and set

442
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: a standard that that that is that was certainly emulated

443
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: by other directors of the time period, but it's also

444
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: still reflected to this day in Russian cinema, including the

445
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: films of the Walt Disney Company c I S, which

446
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: produced the live action Russian fantasy films The Book of

447
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: Masters in two thousand nine and the Lost Warrior trilogy

448
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: from two thousands seventeen through. I believe the third film

449
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: in that saga's coming out in two These are films

450
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: that feature most of the characters that I just highlighted, So,

451
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, just a modern retelling of these various folkloric

452
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: stories with modern cinematic tools and styles. I gotta say,

453
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I've never heard of any of these. Um, yeah, these

454
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: are I have not seen any of them, but now

455
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: I would like to check out some of them. I

456
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: looked at some trailers and some clips, and uh yeah,

457
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm impressed. I mean, apparently you have the likes

458
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: of Steven Spielberg, who has spoken admirally about Row in

459
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: the past. So uh for for those who know, uh,

460
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: this guy was a master. Now, as far as the

461
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: screenwriters go, there are there are two credited screen Lighters writers.

462
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: The first one is Nicolay Erdman, who lived nineteen hundred

463
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: through nineteen seventy a Russian playwright and screenwriter, perhaps best

464
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: known for the suicide Uh, this is a play and

465
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: he turned to cinema when his playwriting career ran a

466
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: foul of Soviet authorities. And then there's Michael Volpen who

467
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: lived nineteen o two through a screenwriter who frequently worked

468
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: with Erdman. Together they also wrote Rose, Firewater and Brass

469
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: Pipes of Open also wrote the nineteen sixty one animated

470
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: film The Key, which apparently ran a foul of Soviet

471
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: sensors due to its criticism of social conformity. Right now,

472
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: onto the cast. Let's start at the top with the

473
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: actor who plays Morosco, who plays Father Frost. This is

474
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: Alexander Kivyalia, who lived nineteen o five through nineteen seventy six,

475
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: a Russian actor of stage and screen. He worked with

476
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Rowan several different films, including Golden Horns and Firewater and

477
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: Brass Pipes, as well as the really interesting sounding row

478
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: film titled Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors, which apparently involves a

479
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: mirror world and crooked mirrors that brainwash people through uh

480
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: these various subtle changes in reality. UM, I may have

481
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: to look that one up. He was also in Rose

482
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one The Night Before Christmas, based on a

483
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: Nicolay Gogel story. He does not play Santa Claus in

484
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: this in case anyone's curious. For anybody wondering, is Father

485
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Frost Santa Claus, Well, no, but there's some significant aesthetic overlap. Yeah, yeah,

486
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: they it's enough to where you sometimes see people described

487
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: describe Father Frost has they'll quote the Russian Santa Claus,

488
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: which is which is incorrect. But they're kind of cut

489
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: from the same cloth. You know, there are similarities once

490
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: you get into the amorphous you know, collective unconscious. Um,

491
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, I guess you could make an argument that

492
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: they're essentially the same being both have long white beard,

493
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: both right around in the sleigh, Both are associated with

494
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: the winter months. Both have a scepter that freezes people

495
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: solid upon touching. They have both have a big beard though,

496
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: and and sometimes they bring gifts. Well, no, he's okay.

497
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Father Frost has the scepter, but Santa Claus has the

498
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: flower to disappear if you know, well, yes, if you're

499
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: watching um, yeah, you're watching Santa Claus. Uh, the well,

500
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: that's the nineteen sixties movie as well. Wasn't it that

501
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Santa Claus versus the devil? All right, the rest of

502
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: the cast. So you have Nastinka, the beautiful, perfect girl,

503
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: the the uh you know, the step daughter played by

504
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Natalia Sack who was born in night, still alive as

505
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: of this recording. A former Russian figure skater and ballet dancer.

506
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: She was also in rows, firewater and brass pipes. Hard

507
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: to miss she has there's just enormous eyes. Right, So

508
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: not Nastica or Nastia corresponds to the good sister, the

509
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: good daughter in the folk tale, the one who's who's

510
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: very nice and polite and is treated very harshly by

511
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: her by her hateful stepmother. Now let's let's go ahead

512
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: and talk about the bad sister, the step sister. Here.

513
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: This is Mafushka, the step sister, played by Ina Churakova

514
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: born nineteen forty three. And uh, I have to say

515
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: that this was the performance that I always admired knowing

516
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: nothing about this actor. Like she's tremendous in this like

517
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: just you know this this uh snarling, but but at

518
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: times at times kind of vulnerable, um uh human being,

519
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, like like she she is an outrageous caricature,

520
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: but at times you feel for her too. Well. She's

521
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: detestable but also pitiable in the way that all spoiled

522
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: children are, because you know, like there's nothing more revolting

523
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: than a spoiled brat child, but you know that, you

524
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: know they were made that way, and you get to

525
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: see how her her how her mother's sort of abusive

526
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: doting causes her to be the way she is, so

527
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: you feel bad for her. Yeah, and you know, given

528
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: how good this performance is, it it probably shouldn't come

529
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: as a surprise, but it might surprise some people to

530
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: know that. Okay, this was only her third screen role,

531
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: but Choakova went on to have this just highly successful

532
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: acting career in Russia and is is highly acclaimed, Like

533
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: she's essentially the Russian Meryl Streep, Like she's that level

534
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: of successful. If you if you look up lists of

535
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: of like famous Russian UM actresses, unless it's you know,

536
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: some sort of just modern list that's not taking in

537
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: the like the full scope of Russian cinema, you may

538
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: very well find her on that list. She was born

539
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty three, uh still active today. UM she is.

540
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: She's married to acclaimed Russian director Gleb Penvalov and has

541
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: started several of his historical films, including three Vassah. She's

542
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: just wonderful in this every moment on screen, she's doing

543
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: something interesting now. The character of Ivan, the male hero,

544
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: was played by Edward Isotov, who was born in nineteen

545
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: thirty six died in two thousand and three. Tall, handsome

546
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Russian actor whose career lasted throughout the sixties and seventies,

547
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: but was apparently derailed in the early eighties due to

548
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: some manner of financial or real estate scandal. I couldn't

549
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: get the full details on it, but he was also

550
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: in rows Uh, firewater and brass Pipes are right. Then

551
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: there's the step mom this is played. This part was

552
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: played by Vera Altaskaya, who was born in nineteen nineteen

553
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: died in nineteen seventy eight, another established Russian actor and

554
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: a frequent cast member in Row films. In her later career,

555
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: apparently she found her niche playing this this exact sort

556
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: of domineering mom step mom character. So apparently this is

557
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: the she. She had a later career based on this

558
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: type of character. Wicked stepmother for life, yes all right?

559
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: And then Baba Yaga the witch. Oh, this is such

560
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: a great character and such a great screen presence in

561
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: this film. She is played by the actor um uh

562
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Ge Glory mil Jar who lived three through nineteen. So

563
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: this this guy was a comedic Russian actor who also

564
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: seems to have specialized in playing supernatural folkloric villains. He

565
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: played Baba Yaga five times for for Alexander Rowe, and

566
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: he played Kashka the Immortal something like four times. He

567
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: also played Judo Uto. He plays our U Goroko, various

568
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: devils and demons. So if you needed, if you needed

569
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: somebody to play this kind of menacing but also slightly

570
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: comedic villain, uh, this was your guy. He he has

571
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: given it his all. I don't want to cheapen it

572
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: by this comparison, but for like modern American audiences think

573
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: like a level of commitment to to a frantic physical performance,

574
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: sort of like like Jim Carey in the nineties. Yeah, yeah,

575
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: like if in like in a sense, he's kind of like,

576
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, a big name monster player, you know, like

577
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: a Boris Karlaf. But imagine if if Boris Karlof were

578
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: merged with you know, you know, you know, with with

579
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: one of these just outlandish physical comedians. Uh, this is

580
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: what you might have, all right. We also have an

581
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: interesting bandit Chief character who pops up in this played

582
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: by an a totally kubat Ski who lived nineteen o

583
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: eight through two thousand and one. Character a Russian character

584
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: actor who often played heavies and bandits and kings and

585
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: frequently worked with Alexander Rowe. Uh. He's pretty fun in

586
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: this is not a huge part, but you know he

587
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: has a lot of you know, snarling of scenes where

588
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: you know he's he's staring off and and uh off

589
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: screen and looking very suspicious and uh and greedy. So

590
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a fun role. He has a great line

591
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: that really sticks in my head where in the English dub,

592
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: after Vane has like apparently magically thrown all of the

593
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: bandits clubs up in the sky so that they don't

594
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: fall back down until months later, the bandit chief just says,

595
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: that's odd. I love it. Yeah, alright, I just want

596
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: more name to mentions, as we do tend to to

597
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to point out who did the music. Uh. It was

598
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: an individual by the name of Nicolay Budashkin who lived

599
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: nineteen ten through night. I don't know much about him.

600
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: But he also did the music on through fire water

601
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and brass pipes. Uh and yeah, I mean the score

602
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: is delightful in this. It's it's, it's, it's beautiful and magical. Now.

603
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't really remember this introduction from the Mystery Science

604
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Theater version. Maybe it's in there. But the movie kicks

605
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: right off letting you know it's a fairy tale because

606
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: it begins with with a grandmother sort of opening some

607
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: like the wooden windows, the wooden shutters of a playhouse,

608
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: and she leans into the window and and says the

609
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, once upon a time an old man and

610
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: an old woman lived in a village with their daughters.

611
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: So it's like you're you're being told a a fairy

612
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: tale by your babushka, right, you know, before bed or something. Yeah, yeah,

613
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: this this is a great opening. And apparently the exact

614
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: same opening occurs in other Row films. Uh with it

615
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: with I don't know if it's the same grandmother type character,

616
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: but a very similar storyteller um saying yes, this is

617
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: a folk tale, let me tell it to you. And

618
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: uh yeah, this was cut from the MS T three

619
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: K version, I'm sure for for time, as they frequently

620
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: did with those films. But I also love it because

621
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: if you remove her from the film, there aren't really

622
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: any like nice old Russian ladies in the movie. You know,

623
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: it's like mostly the evil step mom, a you know,

624
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: a would be mother in law who's also kind of scheming,

625
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: and then a matchmaker who, um, I don't know. I

626
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: guess the matchmaker isn't isn't terrible, but still she lacks

627
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: the charm of this this grandmotherly storyteller who's here to

628
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: entertain us. I think I think Yvonne's mom is you

629
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: want to meet her for a second, But she like

630
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: gives him. She gives him good advice that he doesn't

631
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: obey though he should have, right And she also, I mean,

632
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: she's just like like she's desperately like trying to to

633
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: tell him to to live his his his life correctly

634
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: as he's leaving the house. So I don't know, it's

635
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: it's a very desperate scene and not really a warm one.

636
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: I guess we'll give me a nice blind lady later on,

637
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: but but nothing like the grandma here who's speaking directly

638
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: to us. No, but you've got to give a shout

639
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: out to Vaughan's mom she's right about everything. He's like,

640
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm running off to cause trouble. I'm I'm gonna go

641
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: rolling through the woods, getting into getting in all kinds

642
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: of mischief. And she's like, wait, respect your elders. If

643
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: he'd only listened to her, she could have saved him

644
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: a lot of grief. But isn't that always the way? Well, anyway,

645
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: so you get the introduction that she says, you know,

646
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: she she explains the situation, which is similar to the

647
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: beginning of the original folk tale about grandfather Frost. You

648
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: get the two daughters. Uh, Nastya was the daughter of

649
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: the old man, Marfushka was the daughter of the old woman,

650
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: and uh. And then you fade to these idyllic scenes

651
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: of rural life. So you've got sunrise on a river

652
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: that's very smooth, in an old house deep in the woods,

653
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: and you see the family sleeping inside, or at least

654
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: most of the family, because the first character we get

655
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: to see is Marfushka. Again, this is played by by

656
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: in a chore cova. She is sleeping. And so there's

657
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: a thing I was wondering about, whether this is a

658
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: real feature of I don't know this time and place.

659
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Something you would find in these rural Russian houses, or

660
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: if this is saying something about the character, but she's

661
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: like a like a teenager sleeping in what appears to

662
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: be kind of a crib, like it's like a wooden box.

663
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: I think that maybe rocks And I wonder if that's

664
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, oh, she's spoiled like a baby. Yeah,

665
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I always thought it was just, yeah,

666
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: she's kind of a big baby, so of course she's

667
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: in something like a crib. But it's possible that this

668
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: is some sort of traditional box bed. I know we

669
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: have some we have some Russian listeners and listeners with

670
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: uh with with Russian roots or or or a greater

671
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: knowledge of of Russian customs. Perhaps you can chime in

672
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: on this. Is this something that an adult would actually

673
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: be sleeping in or is this just about telling us

674
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: that she's a big baby. Well, I think something that

675
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: has got to be true to the original of the

676
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Russian setting is the fact that she is being bothered

677
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: by mosquito. Is they're they're buzzing around her face, you know,

678
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: I hear the mosquitoes can be really rough in in

679
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: the Russian woods and so they're they're buzzing around and

680
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: her her mother wakes up and she sees what's going on.

681
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, my my poor baby is being bothered by mosquitoes.

682
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: So she wakes up her husband and makes him sit

683
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: at Marfushka's bedside to wave a branch over her face

684
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: to keep the mosquitoes away while she's and she also

685
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: gives her a lollipop to enjoy while she's sleeping. Is

686
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: that Is that normal or is that just a fairytale thing?

687
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, all all babies would love

688
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: to have a lollipop whilst sleeping, but you know, generally

689
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: parents are not going to give it to them. Uh,

690
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I can't speak to that.

691
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: But the the interesting thing about the lollipop is that,

692
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: again the MST three K version of this, the video quality,

693
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: certainly on versions that lasted after the show went away. Initially,

694
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the video quality is so poor that I all I

695
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: saw was red lollipop. It wasn't until I watched a

696
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: nice HD version of it that I saw that the

697
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: red lollipop is in the shape of a rooster, and

698
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: so I I looked into this. So it's like, why

699
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: why is it in the shape of a rooster? Is

700
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: this a thing? And yes, it is indeed a thing.

701
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: There is this. If something is in this film, I

702
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: guess there's a very good chance that it. I mean,

703
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: it's there for a reason. Um. There's a whole history

704
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: to this. According to the website Russia beyond Russian lollipops

705
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: or leadin its uh date back to the thirteenth century. Uh.

706
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: The rooster is the tradition. There are other molds that

707
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: are used other animals, but that the rooster is the

708
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: main one, because the rooster is a quote magical and

709
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: regal bird in Russian fairy tales, and by the nineteenth

710
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: century it was especially a big deal. So they're not

711
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: always red in color. I think this might have to

712
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: do with the use of beat sugar, or perhaps then

713
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: using beat sugar and then beat juice to to color it.

714
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Uh So. But sometimes they're more of a of a

715
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: brown color, and sometimes they're more yet more caramel colored

716
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: in nature. But they're still around. You can still buy them.

717
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: You can order them online. Um, and they're still sold

718
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: in Russian candy shops. Oh my god, what a good

719
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Christmas gift getting somebody a bunch of mar Fushka lollipops. Yeah,

720
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I really. After I've learned this, it's like, oh man,

721
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: now I want one. I don't know if I want

722
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: to sleep with it, but you know I want one.

723
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, I've outgrown certain concerns about looking cool. There's something,

724
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, like dignity questions I don't really care about.

725
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: But I will not eat the rooster lollipop. That's that's

726
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: a line I will not just in general or only

727
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: at night. Never. Well, I'll have to get you and

728
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: you might change your mind. Okay, But anyway, I think

729
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get the message. Okay, you know they're

730
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: giving her a lollipop all she's sleeping, so I guess

731
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Marfushka is a spoiled brad even win asleep. But then

732
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: meanwhile we get the mother going into the next room

733
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: to see her stepdaughter Nastia, who again corresponds to the

734
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: good daughter from the folk Tail the nice one and Uh.

735
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Nastia is staying up through the night to knit a

736
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: pair of stockings that her stepmother asked her to make

737
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: for Marfushka, and when she comes in and finds her

738
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: hard at work, the stepmother is still not satisfied. She

739
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: She's like, I told you to make the stockings, but

740
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to click your needles like that.

741
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: You'll wake up, my darling girl. So Nastia has sent

742
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: outside in the cold to finish knitting, and the stepmother

743
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: is so mean. She says, the stockings have to be

744
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: finished by the time the rooster crows, and she says, otherwise,

745
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: my precious little girl, I will tear your braid off.

746
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of threats of braid violence in this movie, yeah,

747
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: the removal of braids. And then, of course it's revealed

748
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: that the step sister does not have an actual braid.

749
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: She has a store bought braid. So you know, I

750
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: guess you know commentary on you know which daughter is

751
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: legitimately beautiful and good and which one is artificially beautiful

752
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: and good, which, of course is based entirely on hair length.

753
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: We can't respect that enough, right, Yes, hair length directly

754
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: corresponds to moral virtue. Yeah, but I like, I noticed

755
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: a little thing. This is also in keeping with the

756
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: fairy tale, at least the version chronicled by Andrew Lang,

757
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: which is that the family dog barks at the wicked

758
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: stepmother when she's being mean Dynastia, so like the dog

759
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: is taking nastias side, just like in the story the

760
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: dog takes the good daughter's side. Back at home, She's like,

761
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you a pancake if you say

762
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: that that the good daughter is bad and the bad

763
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: daughter is good, and the dogs like, no, I won't. Yeah,

764
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: that the dog is important in this movie as our

765
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: other animals, Like, they're not just they're not just hanging

766
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: around like they have agency, even if the movie didn't

767
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: go to the degree of having them actually speak with

768
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: like dubbed human voices, though some of the animals in

769
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: the movie do speak. Yeah, like do they speak? As

770
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember just now, I was like,

771
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: the pig speak, does the cat speak? The rooster speaks?

772
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: You remember? Oh, yes, that's right, that's I'm gonna ride up.

773
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: So the sun's about to rise and a rooster hops

774
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: up into frame. Remember the stepmother was like, Okay, if

775
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: you don't finish these stockings by the time the rooster crows,

776
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tear your braid off. And then uh, Nastya

777
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: goes and negotiates with the rooster. She's like, give me

778
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: a little time, please, pretty rooster. Uh, I guess she's

779
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: flattering him, or no, she's not, probably not flattering because

780
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: she's she's good and honest. So she just genuinely thinks

781
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: the rooster is pretty and throws that in there just

782
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: to be nice, and the rooster, actually talking with the

783
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: human voice, says, uh, sorry, roosters only obeyed the sun.

784
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: So you'll have to go. You have to you gotta

785
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: talk to my boss. You gotta you gotta go deal

786
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: with the rosy finger Dawn. So she goes to plead

787
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: with rosy Finger Dawn and she so she goes up

788
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: on this hillside with these trees behind her, and it's

789
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: like this little crest crest of grassy hill that rises

790
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: up by the river, and she faces the sun and

791
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: pleads with it, and apparently the sun is so moved

792
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: by pity for her it sinks back down over the

793
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: horizon and gives her time to finish the stockings. And

794
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: I guess I think this was the first moment in

795
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: the movie where I was like, huh, Like, so far,

796
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: it's been interesting and funny, but this scene is actually

797
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: quite beautiful. Yeah, yeah, And I have to admit when

798
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: we recorded our our current I guess the current series

799
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: on uh time travel fiction. I kept thinking of this

800
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: like this in some ways is kind of a folkloric

801
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: time travel into the past. That the literal turning back

802
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: of the clock, but not the clock on the wall,

803
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: but the clock, the celestial clock, the great celestial clock

804
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: of the the the the actual movement of the sun.

805
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: It's like Joshua stilling the sun in the sky so

806
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: he could finish his battle. Yeah, and it works. So

807
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: so it works. She she has time to finish the

808
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: stockings before the rooster crows. But you know what, the

809
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: wicked stepmother is just still not impressed. She comes out

810
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: and she's like, so you did it on time while

811
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: you wicked little viper, you wicked little witch. I'll give

812
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: you much hard her work next time. Uh. You know

813
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: which is relatable dynamic to a lot of people. Maybe

814
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point in your life everybody might

815
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: have had the experience of trying really hard, you know,

816
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: working hard to complete some task that seemed impossible, only

817
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: to discover that doing so is maybe not really rewarded

818
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: or appreciated. Instead makes people expect even more of you

819
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: in the future. Maybe that's more often a work thing

820
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: than than a family thing. I don't know, well, I've

821
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: encountered shades of it when in Dungeons and Dragons, like

822
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: when the dungeon master gives you an encounter and things

823
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: go a little bit too easy. Yeah, they just sort

824
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: of like ad hawc make up another one to punish you, Yeah,

825
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: or like next time, I don't have to make it harder.

826
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: It's okay. That went with Sometimes we need a cake walk,

827
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: sometimes we need to wear natural twenty. Why you wicked

828
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Little Vipers? Yes exactly. But as a reward, of course, Yeah,

829
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: she's going to get more chores, stuff like watering random

830
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: stumps and so forth. Yes, yeah exactly. So she's sent

831
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: off with this big list of other chores to do

832
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: around the farm. Uh. And then we cut to meeting

833
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: one of our other main characters. I guess our two

834
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: main characters are Nastia and then this new character, Yvonne,

835
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: And so we see him coming out of his house.

836
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: We learned he's from another village nearby, and immediately we

837
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: get the vibe about Yvonne that he is young and strong,

838
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: but proud and vain, And so he walks out of

839
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: his house sort of you know, chest puffed out looking,

840
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: looking into a handheld mirror and and just really enjoying himself,

841
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: enjoying his own reflection. And uh, like we were talking

842
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: about a minute ago, we see his his mother comes

843
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: out behind him, and she really worries for him. As

844
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: as he's leaving the house, she implores him not to

845
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: forget her. So it's as if he's just going off

846
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: to maybe never return, who knows. Uh. And she tells

847
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: him that he should should not harm the weak and

848
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: that he should respect his elders. Yeah, and he yeah,

849
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: he is a character cature of of of arrogance and

850
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: and and beauty. But also, I mean the thing about Vane,

851
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: and again it's my understanding that they are sort of

852
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: different versions of Vane that you encounter in the stories.

853
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Like he has all the tools to back to back

854
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: it up, like he is a beautiful man. Uh. He

855
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: he does have like almost godlike powers. He is he's

856
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: like a Russian Hercules um uh. And he's also he's

857
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: he's he has a is a great mind. He's he's

858
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: able to trick people out of hurting him without necessarily

859
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: getting into a physical battle with him. But he is

860
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: just crushing Lee Vain right. I mean, I think it

861
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: picks up on a folk tale theme that I find interesting.

862
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: Many folk tales concern concerned characters who are themselves vulnerable

863
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: to some more powerful uh threat within the story of

864
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: monster or a bear and animal of bandit or something um.

865
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: But there's another type of folk tale that is about

866
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: the reckless arrogance of the strong young man. It's not

867
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: that he's vulnerable, it's that his that that his strength

868
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: and his freedom make him a danger to himself and

869
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: others right right, and he he can't even though he

870
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: has all the tools to be a true hero, He's

871
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: not going to be one until he learns like the

872
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: right path in life and and and actually starts um that,

873
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, acting on the true values of of moral life.

874
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: But as soon as we see Vans setting out from

875
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: his house to to go on his wanderings, a song

876
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: and dancing begins, and I just I also don't know

877
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: if I remember this song and dancing from the Mystery

878
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: Science Theater, but I loved it. It's it's sort of

879
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: like Yvonne's w W E entrance music. Uh. The song

880
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: is not translated in the dub so I truly don't

881
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: know what they were singing about, but I'm guessing it's

882
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: about how everybody, including Yvonne, thinks Yvonne is really great.

883
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: It seems that way. And yeah, this is definitely a

884
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: scene that was not in the MST three K cut. Uh.

885
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's it's kind of like this delightful

886
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: uh bonus you get from watching it. You know, you

887
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: get to watch all these scenes you've you've seen a

888
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: million times transformed into something beautiful, and then occasionally all

889
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: new scenes. But this leads into iv ongoing singing and

890
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: a tramping through the forests in the hills, and it's

891
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: just a really excellent musical scene. The song is good. Again,

892
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: it's not dubed, so I don't know what it's about,

893
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: but I assume once it's von by himself in the

894
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: woods singing, it's just, you know, I'm awesome, I'm the best.

895
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to sing about myself. And then we go

896
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: straight into the bandit scene, which I did remember from

897
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: the from the other version, and the bandit scene is

898
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: a classic. It's how would we describe this one? Do

899
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: you want to take it? Oh? Well, it's just this

900
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: band of really like watching this. It's it's easy to

901
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: imagine that they're not even humans, but there's some sort

902
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: of dwarves or trolls or something or gnomes, because it's

903
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: just a bunch of very rugged looking, mostly bearded men

904
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: and mismatched garments setting around a campfire. And they're, yeah,

905
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: they're plucking the petals off of daisies. Uh, and they're

906
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: and they're they're trying to decide, they're trying to use

907
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: the daisies way to decide how they're gonna how they're

908
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna go about their day, chanting we will rob them,

909
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: we won't rob them, we will eat them, we won't

910
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: eat them, etcetera. But the next one is we will

911
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: beat them, we will be beaten. So what happens if

912
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: they pick we will be beaten? They just still get beaten.

913
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I never really noticed that they were

914
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: saying that part. Yeah, and the some of the some

915
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: of the bandits are like up in the trees as lookout.

916
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: So I love the set up here, but of course

917
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have a clash of the strong against

918
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: the strong. Yvonne comes along whistling his theme song, uh,

919
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: still doing the tune of his entrance music, and the

920
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Bandits come up to him and they say, hey, you're captured.

921
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Now we're going to rob you. I think that's literally

922
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: a quote, um, and so he says, all right, then

923
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: robbed me and he drops his satchel, which I guess

924
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: they would assume has his money in it, and they

925
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: start fighting over his satchel, and in doing so, they

926
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: dropped their clubs, and then Van sets to grabbing the

927
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: clubs and chucking them way up in the air. And

928
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: then when when they're when they figure out what's going on,

929
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, what do you do with our clubs?

930
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, I threw them up in the

931
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: sky and they'll come down next winter. Okay, yeah, it's great.

932
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bandits are fearsome but but not the smartest,

933
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: and Van is easily able to to outsmart them without

934
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: even really having to fight them. So moving along, Van

935
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: just goes about his business and then the narrator comes in.

936
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: I love that there were just a few moments where

937
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: a narrator suddenly talks. There's not much narration in the movie,

938
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: but every now and then you get like a sentence

939
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: or two, and it's kind of jarring. Because it's like,

940
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: whoa where did that come from? But the narrator says,

941
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: how long did our young hero Yvonne wander over hill

942
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: and dale? Frankly, we have no idea. And I was

943
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: laughing when I saw that, because I was like, who

944
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: is we? Is this like the gods speaking like you

945
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: know in Genesis? Let us make man in our own image? Anyway,

946
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: So the narrator says, the fact remains that Ivan eventually

947
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: reached far away in unknown lands, and here is where

948
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: we get another classic scene. I think we talked about

949
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: this scene a little bit in our Mushroom Foraging episode,

950
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: but this is the chase scene between yvon and the

951
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: old man Mushroom or Grandfather Mushroom. So Van meets this

952
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: old man who wears a hat that looks like a

953
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: mushroom cap, and uh he he keeps disappearing and reappearing,

954
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: and Von goes up to him and says, are you

955
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: a sorcerer, granddaddy? And uh he says, I dabble in

956
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: sorcery a little, but the truth is that I get bored.

957
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? Does he get bored? Well?

958
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Grandfather Mushroom wants Yvan to play hide and seek with him.

959
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Uh so, so they work out a deal. If von

960
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: can catch Grandfather Mushroom, he'll he will receive a well

961
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: bent bow and some straight arrows. But it is hard

962
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: to catch Grandfather Mushroom because he has the power to

963
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: disappear and teleport, So this does not really seem fair.

964
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: So Von loses, but because he admits to losing, the

965
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: old man gives him the bow and arrows anyway. But

966
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: in keeping with the themes of the original folk tale,

967
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: here's what so Van is not in the classic Grandfather Frost,

968
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: at least the version chronicled by Andrew Lange, but the

969
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: same rules apply. So he has met a magical old

970
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: man in the woods and he is not courteous to him.

971
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: He forgets to say thank you for the bow, and

972
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: he just sort of he just sort of was like, Okay,

973
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go about I'm gonna go about my business.

974
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: And the old man is like, hey, aren't you gonna

975
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: say thank you and bow to me? Bow your head,

976
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: and Van says, those who bow run the risk of

977
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: losing their head. The bear will bow before you if

978
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: you like, but not Yvonne. And this this is bad news.

979
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: So so Grandfather mushroom is like, then, so be it.

980
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: Things will come to pass as you say. The bear

981
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: will bow before me onto the ground, but it is

982
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: your back that will bend. So here we get the again,

983
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: always be polite to old magical people in the woods.

984
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: But eventually we got to have our our two protagonists

985
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: or two plot lines collide. Right. So, so Van comes

986
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: across a carving on a rock that reads, find a

987
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: feather in the fields and throw it to the winds,

988
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: and if you follow that feather, you will find your destiny.

989
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: So he has a uh, somewhat aggressive way of finding

990
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: a feather in the fields. He shoots a bird with

991
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: an arrow and then picks a feather off of it

992
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: throws it. It floats all over all over the place,

993
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: and he follows it and eventually it lands at a

994
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: riverside where he finds Nastia. She is they're drawing water

995
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: from the river. She's got her loyal buddy dog at

996
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: the side, and she's singing this melancholy song, and she

997
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: is pouring water over a dead stump, and I Vaughn

998
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: sees her falls in love at first sight, and he

999
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: walks up to talk. She is, of course, hard at work,

1000
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: watering the old stump. She says she's going to water

1001
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: it until flowers bloom out of it, something her stepmother

1002
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: told her to do, and I Vaughn's like, that's crazy.

1003
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: She she must she must be very mean to you.

1004
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: But Nastia does not complain. She's like, oh, no, it's fine,

1005
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: and you know I'll do it. And so Van, uh,

1006
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't think there's really any lead up to this.

1007
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: He's just like, hey, will you marry me? So he's

1008
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: being very smooth, and she is like, I do not

1009
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: think we would make a good couple. And he wants

1010
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: to know why, and she says, well, it's because you're

1011
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: a braggert and I am not, and I like that.

1012
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: His response is, well, I'm not a braggert because I'm

1013
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: actually very good at everything, so he explains, So I

1014
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: guess it's not bragging if it's true. So he says

1015
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: he's a good fighter, he's a good fisherman, he's a

1016
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: great dancer, and he's a great hunter. And then he

1017
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: decides to show off how good he is at hunting

1018
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: by pulling out his bow and he says he's going

1019
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: to shoot a bear on the other side of the river.

1020
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: And Nastia greatly opposes this. She says, no, she has

1021
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: cubs and she tries to stop him, so she calls

1022
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: out to her dog, who barks, and this scares the

1023
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: bears and they run off, and then Nastia throws a

1024
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: bucket over Van's head. And then when the bucket comes off,

1025
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: the movie kicks into high gear because oops, here we

1026
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: get Grandfather mushroom magic. And now Yvonne has a bear

1027
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: head and he sounds like Zoidberg. Yeah, I guess he

1028
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: does a bit, but yeah, it has this fabulous bear

1029
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: head that, um, I think it's actually well crafted, you know,

1030
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean within the context of the of the film

1031
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: and the times. Uh, you know, it looks kind of

1032
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: terrifying but also kind of alive. Yeah, it's a very

1033
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: creepy looking also sometimes funny looking. And and his voice

1034
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: has changed. She no longer just sounds like Yvonne. He

1035
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: He's like, whoa, what has happened to me? And uh,

1036
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: when he realizes he has a bear head, he thinks

1037
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: that Nastia did it to him. He thinks that she

1038
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: gave doesn't he I think he thinks she gave her head. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1039
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: because he starts like I curse you forever, you witch, um,

1040
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: and he runs off and and is freaking out. This

1041
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: also looks very funny because he's just running between the

1042
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: trees sort of swinging his arms around and moaning, and

1043
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Nastia is very sad and her tears fall in the river,

1044
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: and for some reason this makes flowers bloom out of

1045
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: the dead stump that she was watering. Yeah. Yeah, and

1046
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I think this is where we also have just a

1047
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: very beautiful, lengthy scene that I think was cut from

1048
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: the MST version where we just see this wonderful reflection

1049
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: in the water and you know, she's having this emotional

1050
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: moment and it's it's like again one of those where

1051
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: you just you just admire the look of the film.

1052
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're very right. I mean, so there it

1053
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: is genuinely a sort of sad moment here, But then

1054
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: it cuts back to being kind of funny because then

1055
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: we see Van just like roaming all over the place,

1056
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: growling and moaning and feeling really sorry for himself. Um,

1057
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: and he somehow he gets back to grandfather Mushroom and

1058
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: he's like, I gotta know how to get this get

1059
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: this head, you know, bare head off of me. He

1060
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: begs him to teach him what he can do to

1061
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: become a man again, and Grandfather Mushroom says, you've never

1062
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: done a good deed, and then Barehead Avanes runs with it.

1063
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: So he's like, oh, so I must do a good

1064
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: deed and then I'll return to normal. And Grandfather Mushroom

1065
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: is trying to protest. He's like, no, it isn't that simple,

1066
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: but Barehead is always he's already running off to get

1067
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: it done. So it's still that that youthful sort of prideful, foolhardiness.

1068
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: He's not going to even read the full instructions. Yeah,

1069
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: And and from here we get kind of a montage

1070
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: with scene right where he's running up to people, random

1071
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: folks and just like he's saying, what can I do

1072
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: to help you? But he's a bear monster, so he's

1073
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: terrifying people and they're just running away from it. Right, Yeah,

1074
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's kind only Frankenstein, right, Mary Chell.

1075
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: You know he he uh, the creature just wants friends,

1076
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: but but he's scary looking, so people are going to

1077
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: run away. Oh, it is very in fact, it mirrors

1078
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Frankenstein in in another way. They we'll get to in

1079
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: a second. Now cutting back to the house where where

1080
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: Nastia and Marfushka live, there is a really funny scene

1081
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: leading up to I guess it's supposed to be a

1082
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: matchmaking scene where a suitor and his parents come to

1083
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: the house and uh, they're trying to set up Marfushka

1084
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: with this with this marriage bile bachelor, and so they're

1085
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: getting her ready for that, putting all this makeup on her,

1086
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: but it looks like clown makeup. And she's wearing this

1087
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: extremely colorful outfit with a with a red and yellow crown,

1088
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: and it's the colors look great. And again this is

1089
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: one reason that it really is worth watching the good

1090
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: HD version. But also I thought the scene is very

1091
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: funny because like, the bachelor is this super dopey looking dude.

1092
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: He he slightly has a bit of um the energy

1093
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: of the guy in the who plays um microft homes

1094
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: in the BBC version of Sherlock, but like DOPEI er

1095
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: with long flat hair and uh, and so there's a

1096
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: scene so they're trying to the parents are trying to

1097
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: get him to him and his parents to agree to

1098
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: marry Marfushka. But everything really goes wrong. Somehow she ends

1099
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: up falling into the lake and then her fake braid

1100
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: comes off and it just it just all goes to

1101
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: hell and and the other people are making fun of her,

1102
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: and so the stepmother is really mad and uh. And

1103
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: then the worst thing of all is that the suitor

1104
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: dude is like, hey, what if I married Nastia instead?

1105
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: And that just makes the stepmother go like ballistic. Oh.

1106
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: And then eventually, after after a long interlude, Von does

1107
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: get his his original head back, and I think it's

1108
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: because he picks up a stick thinking it belonged to

1109
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: an old woman that he helped carry back to her

1110
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: home over a mountain, and he's like, oh, this is

1111
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: her stick. I better take it back to her, And

1112
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: for some reason that's the thing that does it. Then

1113
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Grandfather Mushrooms like, okay, you deserve a human head now, yeah,

1114
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: and an old blind woman. So it kind of mirrors

1115
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Frankenstein in that respect that he ends up. Initially, he's

1116
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: he ends up helping her by carrying her home, but

1117
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: it's but it's seeing her stick and thinking, oh, she

1118
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: needs that stick. I need to get that back to her.

1119
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: So it's almost like, I mean, this is something that

1120
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: the MST three k Riff had fun with, you know,

1121
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: the idea that it's like he didn't actually do anything nice,

1122
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: he just thought about doing something nice and and that

1123
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: was enough. But if I'm going to re into it more,

1124
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the idea that that he was

1125
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: doing it without any kind of a scheme behind it.

1126
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, he he wasn't helping her because it would

1127
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: help him. He was just doing it as a reflex,

1128
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: you know it. It's like kindness was no longer something

1129
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: that he had to force himself to do. He could

1130
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: do it instinctually. Oh well, that makes more sense. Okay,

1131
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: I I can accept that. But yeah, when it does

1132
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: come down to it is very funny to point out

1133
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: that that he just thought about doing it and he

1134
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: gets rewarded for it. And uh, I don't know. I

1135
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: think sometimes people do sort of work that way, like

1136
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: they maybe congratulate themselves a little too much, not for

1137
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: actually doing anything good, but for becoming convinced that they

1138
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: would do something good if given the opportunity. Yeah, I

1139
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: think we've I think we've we've looked in some studies

1140
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: on that. For the core stuff to blow your mind episodes. Okay, well,

1141
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: here sort of we hit the transition point because we

1142
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: skip ahead in time, so we we we skip ahead

1143
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: to winter. Previously, I don't know, I guess this was

1144
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be in summer before. Uh, and and now

1145
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: we go to winter, and here's where we sort of

1146
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: really get into the meat of the original folk tale.

1147
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: I also think at this point we might we might

1148
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: skip over some things and describe in less detail. But

1149
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: there there is so much wonderful stuff and magical characters

1150
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: in the second half of the movie too, because here's

1151
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: where we're gonna get Bobba Yaga and and Grandfather Frost.

1152
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: So the second part begins with the premise of the

1153
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: grandfather for a story, which is that the old man

1154
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: is taking Nastia out into the out into the frozen

1155
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: woods to die because presumably because suitors keep wanting to

1156
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: marry her instead of Marfushka, and stepmother is is tired

1157
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: of this, so she's like, an old man, you will

1158
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: kill your daughter for me? And uh, he's really broken

1159
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: up about it, but he's doing it, like he's taken

1160
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: her out there on the sled. But then he while

1161
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: he's out there, he's like, no, no, I won't and

1162
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: he tries to turn the sled around to take her

1163
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: back home, but like we talked about earlier, Nastia apparently

1164
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to cause trouble for her father, so she

1165
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: just hops out of the sled. So I guess, so

1166
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: as not to be a burden. She's just like, it's

1167
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: all right, dad, I'll just die of exposure. I don't

1168
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: want you to have a rough afternoon. I'll say again

1169
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: that is pathological kindness, that there's no reason to be

1170
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: that nice. But now, also in the same in the

1171
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: same time period and the dead of winter, we find

1172
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: Yvonne out wandering the woods and what he's trying to

1173
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: find Nastia again. He's like, hey, I've got a human

1174
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: head again. I'm a better man. I'm not so selfish

1175
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: in vain now I am. I am a more suitable

1176
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: bachelor who who could marry Nastia because now she'll see

1177
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually a good person. So he's out trying to

1178
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: find her, and he comes across the cabin of the

1179
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: Witch of of Bobby Yaga, which is up on legs,

1180
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: I think, as it is often depicted in these stories,

1181
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: and there's this great scene where they're they're like where

1182
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: he and the witch are both trying to order the

1183
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: house which direction to face. Yeah, that's that's a wonderful scene.

1184
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: And and this whole sequence is just great with with

1185
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: all the costumes and and the sets and everything. So yeah,

1186
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: she gets a bunch of trees to attack Yvonne and

1187
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: bring him inside because she wants to eat him. Uh,

1188
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: and she's going to load him into the oven to

1189
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: cook him. But he tricks her in classic fairy tale style.

1190
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, hey, you're you want me to sit

1191
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: on the shovel so you can put me into the oven.

1192
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: But I've never sat on a shovel before. You gotta

1193
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: show me how. She's like the youth of today, we're

1194
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: not taught anything. She's going to demonstrate it. So she

1195
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: gets on the shovel and and he shoves her into

1196
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,479
Speaker 1: the oven. And then she's like, oh, get me out,

1197
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: So he lets her out. But then they're negotiating. He's

1198
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: trying to get her magical help to find Nastia. The

1199
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: The interior of Bobby Iaga's hut is fabulous because it

1200
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: looks like Mario Baba was the end. It was the

1201
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: interior right here, Yes, blue and purple light everywhere fog.

1202
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: It's full of animals. They're owls, pigs, cats, spider webs.

1203
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: I think some of the snakes other things I'm probably

1204
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: not even remembering. Uh. And then meanwhile, so while Yvonne

1205
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: is encountering this magical being, uh, Nastia is encountering Grandfather Frost,

1206
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: and we get basically the same interaction that they have

1207
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: in the folk tale. So he's like, are you warm?

1208
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: And she says yes, even though she's obviously freezing, and

1209
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, you know, you're a very nice girl. Uh,

1210
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: because she you know, she's gonna talk smack about how

1211
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: cold his forest is. And then he offers her his coat,

1212
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: but she's like, what about you, won't you be cold?

1213
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: But of course he's you know, he's Father Frost. He's

1214
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: not going to be cold. So it goes exactly this

1215
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: is this is this is a fashion coat. Um. So,

1216
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: just as she's about to freeze to death, father Frost

1217
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: is like, oh, she needs help, So he covers her

1218
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: up in his warm coat, takes her away in his sleigh,

1219
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and they go to his house which looks kind of

1220
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: like a church. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's

1221
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: another beautiful structure inside and out. Inside especially, it's just

1222
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: this this blue crystal palace with you know again, I'm

1223
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: kind of reminded of of Mario Bava films, except it's

1224
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: it's as if Mario Bava made a fairytale movie for

1225
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: children instead of you know, some sort of thriller. Right. Well,

1226
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: there there is something quite deadly within the house though,

1227
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: because Father Frost he leaves his scepter in there, and

1228
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it, uh, Nastya's Nastya's curiosity gets the

1229
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: better of her because she's like, what's the deal with

1230
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: the scepter? She goes to check it out, touches it,

1231
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: and it freezes her solid. She's in a chunk of ice.

1232
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: We we learned from Father Frost that that whoever touches

1233
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: the scepter will never wake again. And he comes back

1234
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: and finds her frozen like that, and he really beats

1235
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: himself up about it. He's like, you knit with you, donkey,

1236
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: you didn't watch over her. Meanwhile, somehow the Witch sends

1237
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: van off Um chasing after some kind of object. I

1238
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: think it's a sheep skin or something that will allegedly

1239
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: lead him to Nastia or a pig sled. Maybe that's

1240
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: the pig is that lives in her hut is transformed

1241
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: into a pig sled, a magical sled. It will take

1242
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: him where he needs to go. Uh. And she when

1243
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: she's alone, she has these scenes with like a cat

1244
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: and an owl and a snake where she's just lamenting

1245
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: that she did not get to cannibalize Yvonne. She really

1246
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: wants to eat him. I remember the cat was doing

1247
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: her bidding by helping to engineer the moment where she

1248
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: touches the scepter and it's frozen. That's right. Yeah. But

1249
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: eventually Ivan meets Nastia's loyal dog, are you know her

1250
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: buddy dog from way back in the beginning, and and

1251
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: the dog. I like this movie because this is a

1252
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: movie that appreciates the quality of a good dog, and

1253
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: the dog is a good friend. The dog leads him

1254
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: to father Frost's house and when he gets there, if

1255
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: An's love wakes her up and defrosts her basically, Oh

1256
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: and then, uh, what does the exchange they have? It's

1257
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: like she gets defrosted and he's there with his head

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Speaker 1: back to normal, and she says something like um, she

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Speaker 1: she says well, she gives him the I guess it's

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Speaker 1: the diminutive form of his Evenushka. She says, Evenushka, how

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Speaker 1: nice you are? Now I like you better. And then

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Speaker 1: he he brags now that he does good deeds all

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Speaker 1: the time, and she seems to accept this, and then

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Speaker 1: we we get sort of a happy ending. But the

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: funny thing is the movie is not over yet, so

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Speaker 1: you would expect that this is you know, the music

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Speaker 1: kicks in and we go to credits, um, but it's

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Speaker 1: not quite there yet that we do see the happy ending. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Nastia and Ivonne arrived back at the family home in

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Speaker 1: a regal sleigh. They're dressed like royalty with a box

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Speaker 1: full of gems, so it seems like they're married and

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Speaker 1: they're happy and they're rich. And Marfushka is furious. She

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01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: keeps saying, I want stones so um so much like

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Speaker 1: the fairy tale. Her mother demands that the old man

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Speaker 1: take Marfushka out into the forest as well, so that

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Speaker 1: the same thing can happen to her, because from their

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Speaker 1: point of view, it's like, well, okay, daughter was left

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Speaker 1: in the forest, came back, uh, married, happy and rich.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we just assume the same will happen

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Speaker 1: to the other daughter. But when father Frost comes across her,

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Speaker 1: she basically beats him up. I think she actually hits

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Speaker 1: him or something. Yeah, yeah, she's she's abusive and awful

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Speaker 1: to to Frost. Uh And in the original folklore like

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Speaker 1: he freezes her to death for it. But in this

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: we get a you know, we get a sanitized version

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Speaker 1: of that. Right, So instead of him him killing her

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Speaker 1: and the stepmother, Marfush is sent back home in uh

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Speaker 1: not with a husband or not like royalty in the

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Speaker 1: sleigh with a handsome husband, pulled by white horses and

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Speaker 1: a box full of jewels. Instead she is by herself

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Speaker 1: on a sled pulled by pigs, with a box full

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: of crows. Yes, And there's also a great sort of

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: epilogue scene where Van and Nasti are are riding off

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01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: together and they get attacked by the bandits from earlier

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: in the movie at the behest of the Witch the way. Yeah,

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: this is kind of our final battle. So she's rallied

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: the bandits, And there's there's a great scene where she

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01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: comes flying in um in her in her mortar, which

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: is which is her traditional means of flying about and

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01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: it reminded me so much of an illustration from the

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01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: Enchanted World's book. Uh it was this is this really

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01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: bright illustration by Ivan Bilibbin from I believe nineteen hundred um.

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: It was in the book on Witches and Wizards. But

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: you can also see this image if you just go

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: to the Wikipedia page on Boba Yaga. It's like the

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: top image and it's it's really cool. So, yeah, she's

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: coming in. She's bribed the bandits, she's organizing them. So yeah,

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: now you have the worst thing you have the Bobby.

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: You have Bobby Yaga committed to bringing down Yvonne and Nostinka,

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: and she has convinced all of these bandits to work

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: with her. The bandits aren't very smart, but now they

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: have a general telling them what to do, right, And

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: she I think she still wants to eat von right,

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01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: like she's like, he looked so tasty. Yeah, yeah, she

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: feels cheated out of that meal. So she's gonna she's

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna get it right. So so the bandits attack, Nastia

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: gets tied up. The bandits are beating up Yvonne. But

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01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: then we get uh to save the day. We get

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, the loyal dog

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01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: unties Nastia from the tree, and then the bandits are

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: knocked out by their own clubs. We get a call

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: back from earlier when when Yvonne threw all the clubs

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: up in the air. Yeah, I believe the riff and

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01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: they miss d three K version is it's raining cinematic payoff,

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: which I love. I love that riff and I think

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: about it in anytimes something like this happens in a movie.

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01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,440
Speaker 1: And then I guess we get the epilogue to the epilogue,

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: which is like we see our our Nastia Van at

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: their wedding here or at some kind of celebration. They're

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01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: in a they're in a house with a bunch of

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: people gathered for a feast, and it's like the most

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: colorful scene I have ever witnessed. The colors are just

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: like violent. Yes, it is absolutely beautiful, just faberge egg

1334
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: pastel explosions. It's it's gorgeous. And they're on the table.

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: You see bowls of food, apples, there's a rooster bowl. Um,

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: everybody's here. And it's a great shot too, because we

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01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: begin it they're into the table and then we we

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: we we pull back. Uh, you know, we we're moving

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: down the table, down this feast table. We feel like

1340
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: we're a part of the feast, right. Yeah. So so

1341
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: you know what, this is a wonderful holiday film. This

1342
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: is It does make for great comedic fodder on on MST.

1343
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: But this is also just a really gorgeous, creative and

1344
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: fun movie. I I give it to and I was

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: a tend talking roosters. Yeah. Like most of the best

1346
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: MST three K films, it stands on its own without

1347
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: the riff. The riff is not necessary to enjoy it,

1348
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: uh in my opinion, so uh, I recommend everybody consider

1349
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: giving it a go, especially if you're a fan of

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01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: the episode. You'll still love it. You've probably seen the

1351
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: Rift version enough that you've memorized all the good riffs,

1352
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: so you can just think them or say them while

1353
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: you're watching. Pretend they're yours. Yeah, yeah, pretended, pretend their

1354
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: years um and Lucky for you, you can buy or

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: rent this digitally on a number of platforms, including Amazon Prime,

1356
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: where I think there are like two different versions of it.

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not sure about the quality on those, but

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: whatever you end up finding, go with the high quality

1359
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: if you find make sure it's the vibrant colors um

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01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, shop around. You can watch it in Russian

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: with subtitles that you can also watch it again with

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: this very fun English dub um. Uh. There's also a

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: physical um Or Roost Coco DVD that you can pick

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01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: up for a quite reasonable price online if you want

1365
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: a physical disk to put into your DVD player. Nice.

1366
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: So I think this was our our what our second

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: Russian film on Weird House Cinema. There was the Teams

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: in the Universe. Oh yeah, the sci fi one with

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: the great robots, also ultimately a children's film, and uh,

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: and here we are with another Russian children's film. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm to understand there's plenty more where that came from.

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: It seems like, especially maybe the sixties and seventies have

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01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: a lot of great, uh great looking fantasy and sci

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: fi films from Russia. Yeah. Yeah, And we've heard from

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: some listeners who have given us some recommendations that also

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: looked great and and I've also run across some older

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: films that that also looked pretty good. There's a particular

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: Russian horror film that is that is on my list,

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: uh that we we may have to get to in

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: the months ahead, or rather in the year ahead, because

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: like we said this, I believe this is gonna be

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: it for this year. We're gonna have a couple of

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: repeats in the weeks ahead, a couple of Weird House

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: Cinema rewind episodes, but then we'll be back with something

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01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: Christmas with the Cranks in January, as it should be.

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: All right. If you want to listen to other episodes

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01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: of Weird House Cinema, you'll find it every Friday in

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast feed We are

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: primarily a science and culture podcast, with core episodes on

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01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays, but on Monday's we do listener mail,

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: on Wednesday's we do a short form artifact episode, and

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01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: on Fridays we set aside most serious matters and we

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: just talk about a weird and interesting film. Huge thanks

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 1: as always to our excellent audio producer Seth Nicholas Johnson.

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,680
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01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: with feedback on this episode or any other, to suggest

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,280
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01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,040
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