1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I don't care if you're in the style of 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: drink training I'm doing. But like, here's what my company is. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: We make USA products no better what here in America, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and they're better than anything that you can import, and 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: you're going to pay more, and like we create jobs 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: for other American citizens. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: David ruthiverb once I I'm Jamie. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: He's like, yep, I want to like walk out of 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: the gym when I don't want to do something hard. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Look at my plates, Like there's a marine that made 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: these plates in America, and. 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Like I support that. 13 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm all fired up right now. 14 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: What you're talking about is is the essence of what 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: America represents. 16 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Just your story alone. 17 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 4: Like guy grows up, got a pastor's son, going to 18 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: the citadel, going to a Marine Corps, going to combat 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: running young men, teaching them how to strengthen, get hit 20 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: with a pandemic, that comes up with a business idea, 21 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: blows it up. Now you're making American iron Man, and 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: that's the story that I think is coming back in America. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 4: One of the things that I've learned in my life 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: is that if you want to go to war, you 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: gotta have Marines. Now, there's a reason for this, and 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: that reason dates all the way back to the late 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: seventeen hundreds and throughout every stage of the United States 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: our development are prowess from a military stance. The one 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: unit that has always been at the tip of the 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: spear for that entire time is the Marine Corps. And 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of people out there that'll 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: say rangers lead the way or seals are the tip 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: of the spear. 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: All that, it's all bull. 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: The reality is is that the core is the heartbeat 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: of the military. They do the best training, they have 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: the best committed human beings, and they're willing to go anywhere, 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: anytime to get the job done and always the dirtiest deeds. 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: So today I am absolutely fired up to bring on 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: one of Jordie's close friends, Major Grant Brogie, who is 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: also the owner of the Strength Company as well as 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: the starting Strength coach. And we've got him over in 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 4: Okinawa right now, which is so cool. That's why it's 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: an early morning for us right now. But we're so 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: fired up to welcome Grant to the show. Grant, thanks 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: for coming on, buddy, And that was a pretty. 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Good intro we might have to play that for the 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth Marine Corps Birthday ball. 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: You know, that's funny that you're saying that, because I've 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: got an open invitation. 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the DC. 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: So one of my closest friends is a major in 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: the reserves for MARSOK. He's a Mars SOK Intel officer 54 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: and he's. 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, amazing, phenomenal guy. 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: I met him when we were at the agency together, 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: and former recon guy. And and now like when he 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: was at the agency, he ended up getting his degree 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: and then masters, and then he was like, I think 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: I'll go back in and he went in as a 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: Naval intel officer, which was for the very short period 62 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: of time. He did it like the greatest thing that 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: ever happened, because I just was like, Aha, you wanted to. 64 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: Be Navy, you know, the whole thing. 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: And then he couldn't handle it, and so he flipped 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: and he became a Marine Corps officer, as he should be. 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: But nothing but respect for your. 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: Granted, tell me tell me a little bit about why 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: the Marine Corps for you? 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: What was it? When did it start? 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: And because that's that's like, that's those every time I 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: get a chance to engage with a marine particular officer, 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: it's like, man, there's some deep correlation to the inspiration 74 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: of why they chose the core. 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: No, I think it's an interesting good question. I'm from Beauford, 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: South Carolina, where I grew up. So I grew up 78 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: about ten miles from Paris Island. My dad's a preacher 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: still this day, community Bible church down there, you know, 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: over thirty years he's been down there. So I grew 81 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: up around a lot of marines, a lot of my friends, 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, in church and playing sports and stuff like 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: the sons of drill instructors, like, you know, a lot 84 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: of marine culture there in Beauford. So it's very familiar 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: to me. At the same time, it was kind of like, 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're gonna go to college. 87 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: And you know, go do something different. 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: You're not gonna go to the military like other people 89 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: go into the military. And you know, I say that 90 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek in case my mom listens. But you know, now, 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: out of the five kids they've had, you know, two 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: of us are Marine officers. And so there's definitely something 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: about being from that area that it was never a 94 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: question of branch. 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Like for me, if I ever was going to. 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Serve, it was very clear, like I am going to 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: be a marine, like that was the only deal. I 98 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: went to the Citadel. While I was at the Citadel, 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I didn't commission out of there. I had a bunch 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: of buddies go to the army, go to the Marine Corps. 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I graduated, I took a job, and I remember I 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: was a concrete plant manager and I supervised, you know, 103 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: thirty concrete truck drivers. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm like twenty three years old or something. 105 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, I got a company truck, you know, and 106 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, man, like I made it. I'm really cool. 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: And a guy that was a year ahead of me 108 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: was in Afghanistan. They hit an ID they blew up 109 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: one of those marines like lost the leg. And I 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: remember him calling me and talking to him, and I 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: remember sitting up like I'm in this tower, like a 112 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: concrete plant's like literally a tower. You like look down, 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: you're like sands coming in, you know, cemen fly ash, 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: you're managing all that. And I just thought, like I 115 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: can do this at any point my life. I cot 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: any point in my life, I can come back and 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: like be the King of concrete, and I wasn't the 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: King Concrete, right, But my point is like I could 119 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: do the same time, I can't serve forever and uh 120 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: so yeah, I walked in the recruiting office on actually 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: September eleventh, twenty eleven. 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it was like I want to join, and 123 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: I think that's part of. 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: So like new if I was going to Georgia be a marine, 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: and then I see it now as I lead one 126 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: hundred and forty people, and you know, see the difference 127 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: in generations. 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot different. 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: You start to be like, oh, man, like you know, 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old is a lot different than 131 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old. But for me it was it 132 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: was nine to eleven. 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Right. 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I'm an algebra class and this thing 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: happens and like you should serve your country. And so 136 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that at the time, Like I am 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: joining because of nine to eleven, right, But now is 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: like look back and like a little bit of age 139 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: order my belt and you reflect, You're like, oh, I 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: was a byproduct of being a teenager when this thing happened, 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: and you know, wanted to be a part of some 142 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: bigger myself and uh yeah, being where from from it 143 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: had to be the Marine Corps. So here I am. 144 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you what, I love Youford, South Carolina, 145 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: A good buddy in the teams that got married there, 146 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: you know. And it's just you're right, there isn't there 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: is an era of of that dedication to to you know, 148 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: Camp La June and the whole, the whole idea of 149 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: Paras Island, the whole. It's like it's it's the storied 150 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: fable that kind of bleeds into every aspect of the culture, 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: you know, like a lot more than it does out 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: in Pendleton. And and you know all the different little 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: towns that surround Pendleton, you know, because those are like 154 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: sleepy surfer beach towns and stuff. But when you go 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: through that area of of that part of South Carolina, 156 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: and even it bleeds up into North Carolina, I think too. 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: For sure, you just feel that that sense of pride 158 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: that is built into the communities. And it's really fascinating 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: to me. You know how easily you know, kids allow 160 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: that to penetrate into their consciousness of what they they 161 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: can become in the future. Right, Oh man, I've got 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: this incredible option. Being a part of the core is 163 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: something that's it's noble, there's a there's a legacy in it, 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: and it just kind of infects you. Did you did 165 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: your father as a preacher? Did he I mean obviously 166 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: you you probably got a very intense, deep faith based 167 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: on his influence, But did he also lay out the 168 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: groundwork for you and the importance of what serving your 169 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 4: country or the military and support of the military was 170 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: about as well? 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, you know, Dad, My dad is 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: like a one and evangelist, Like he is there to 173 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: like tell people Christ died for your sins. You need 174 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: to know him. And I think he has enjoyed like 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: a transient crowd. What I mean by that is like 176 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: his church is a relatively large church, but because it's 177 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: near Marine Corps in a Navy base. There two Marine 178 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: Corps based in the Navy base, it's like, hey, everyone's 179 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: like on three or orders, so you get a lot 180 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: of people coming through. And I think my dad never served. 181 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: His dad was in the Navy, My grandfather was in 182 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: the Navy. But he really developed an appreciation for people 183 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: that just constantly will answer the call. And I think sometimes, 184 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, we watch the movies and you do seal 185 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: stuff or whatever, and you think like, ah, you know, 186 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: like there's like this super cool high speed stuff that happened. 187 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: But the service and the sacrifice of like Americans that say, hey, 188 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: in my life, I'm going to do twenty years whatever 189 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: it is I'm in the reserves is a little bit different. 190 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: But like for your average guy that attacked to duty 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: and it's like every three years, I'm going to stuff 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: my wife and kids like into a car, move them 193 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: across the country. They're not going to know anybody. I'm 194 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: going to bring them to a new place, and you know, 195 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: at a complete new environment, new high schools for kids, 196 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: like new all these things, and you realize, like man, 197 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, whether they're getting shot at or not, Like 198 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: that level of hey, I'm doing this for my care 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: for country is huge. And so what I would say 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: is to answer your question, is my dad like really 201 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: appreciated that because he would see people over the years, 202 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: you know, in the church for over thirty years and 203 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: people come back, they get stationed again, and he's just like, well, 204 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I've been here the whole time. Like I'm still driving 205 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: my Chevrolet Cavalier and like doing the same things like 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: you've gone to all these different places and had new 207 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: problems and so yeah, he definitely put a level of 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: respect in UH in service and you know it was 209 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it was very uh Yeah, he appreciated a lot. 210 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I would imagine you know, I mean, one, 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: when you're somebody's minister, pastor, you know, the whole idea 212 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: of that's it roots you in the community right through 213 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: that faith. 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: It creates the the. 215 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: Familial UH support network that you know, if if if 216 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 4: if you are but when you're in that like you said, 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: that transitory experience of the military and you show up, 218 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: where do you you know, if if you're if you're 219 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: dialed in what you go find your your church and 220 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 4: to have that person there like your father who understood 221 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: that that complexity, that challenge in particular for the the 222 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, the kids in the UH and the wives. 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: I think for us it's it's you know, I had 224 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: somebody articulate this to me, you know yesterday. You know, 225 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 4: our ability to compartmentized is so so I don't want 226 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: to pick the right word, it's it's so functional, right. 227 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: We just once you learn how to do that by 228 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: going through the training regiment, then it just seems to 229 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: seep into your personal lives and and and you know, 230 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: for us it's like one base, another unit. It's the same. 231 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: We just figure out how to integrate. But your your family, 232 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: your kids in particular, going from those high schools to 233 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: high schools or grade schools, it's such a challenging. So 234 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: to have a church community is really powerful. And then 235 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: also somebody that understands that those challenges be so welcoming. 236 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: You know, I bet did you guys have Was it 237 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: a type of church where you put on the potluck 238 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: dinners and you'd have the fundraisers and all that. 239 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: Was it like that growing up? 240 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean a typical Southern Baptist, a non denominational church. 241 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like Thursday night, meet the pastor come in, 242 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, my dad's going to talk to the new folks. 243 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, every other Sunday it's you know, potato salad 244 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: and pulled pork barbecue and coleslaw and everyone coming out. 245 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: And you, as a child, you take a lot that 246 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: stuff for granted, and you don't realize And no, I 247 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: mean I take the port for granted too, but I 248 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: just mean the community, Like you don't realize how important 249 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: it is because like now I went to church this morning. 250 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to a Baptist church out here 251 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: in Okinawa and it's called Coza Baptist Church. Retired lieutenant colonel. 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: He's a preacher and it's good and I like agree 253 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: with like eighty percent of everything that like it's being said. 254 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: But what I tell people is, you know, every week, 255 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: I say I got five seats in this little super 256 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: ustella and I take up three of them. So you know, 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I can bring like two people with me in this 258 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: tiny oakinawan car. But like I go every Sunday at 259 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: ten if you want to come, like you can come 260 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: with me. And so I always have two or three 261 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: guys that'll come and they're just like me and like 262 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: the community aspect, like like happy parents, happy kids, like 263 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: people filled with the Holy Spirit. And it's no matter 264 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: where you go, and like you can have like differences 265 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: in theology and stuff and like all that's important, but 266 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: it's like you go every Sunday and like I'll have 267 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: there's there's a captain and a lieutenant that have been 268 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: coming with me, Like they'll just sit me on Wednesday. 269 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: They're like sorry, I can't wait for church on Sunday 270 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, like I can't wait either, right, 271 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: And so it's it's neat. And so I say that 272 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: reflecting on my dad's church, like not realizing, hey, I 273 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: show up to Paris time, I'm a staff's are about 274 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: to be a drill instructor and like go through a cycle. 275 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: And my wife's mad, and you know, I got. 276 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: A two year old that's crazy, and it's like I 277 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: don't really know what to do, Like the house was 278 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: you know what I should do. I'd just like take 279 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: them one to church and like we're gonna eat barbecue 280 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna like read a Bible verse and I'm 281 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna feel better and like that is like the thing 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: that I have control of. So yeah, no, I've missed 283 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: deployment in particular, and obviously over my life as I've 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: gotten older and gotten married and had a kid, I've 285 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: really I've been like, Wow, my Dad's ministry there's been 286 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: been powerful and to the core and to the court. 287 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean I went up to the preacher of the 288 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: first Sunday I was here before went on the float. 289 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm about to leave like four months, 290 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: but I'll be back. I was like my dad's this guy. 291 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: He's like marines to have come to this church from 292 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: your dad's church for fifteen years. Wow. 293 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's right. 294 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: It's a it's like a culture inside of a culture, 295 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: so kind of exciting. 296 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: That's that's really cool. 297 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: And you know, so you know, one of the interesting 298 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: things is I think as you go in and you 299 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: and especially you go in as an officer. And I 300 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: had a good friend Hugh Middleton that went to the 301 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: Citadel and he was a lieutenant when I was a 302 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: new guy at Team one, and then he did a 303 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: stint over at Damn Nick and and we actually worked 304 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: together when I was at Blackwater. We did we did 305 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: we ran a kind of like a FID mission through 306 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: Azerbaijan and we retrofitted their base. But we I got 307 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: to know Hugh pretty good during then, and he talked 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: about the Citadel and you know, you know where the 309 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: Citadel is, the history of the Citadel. You know that 310 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: there's more of that legacy that's built in if you 311 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: graduate from that institution. Can you tell all the listeners 312 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: a little bit about what the Citadel is, what kind 313 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: of you know education you get there, and then how 314 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: also it's part of that community as well too. 315 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of similar. 316 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: So you know, you have the Naal Academy, Air Force Academy, 317 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: Coast Guard, and West Point and those are your senior 318 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: lever senior military academy academies. And then you have six 319 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: senior military academies just like you're Virginia Tech, tex A, 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: and m Citadel VMI. And basically what it means is 321 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: they have rotcs on the campus with active duty service 322 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: members and you can go in and join the service 323 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: from there. So the Citadel is one of the six 324 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: senior military academies in the US. And there's like two 325 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: factions of the Citadel. There's the Citadel that is, Hey, 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm from South Carolina. I'm really proud to be a Southerner. 327 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: My daddy went here on he became a lawyer on 328 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Charleston and he wayhows the ring and Pat Conroy ways 329 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the ring, and I want to wear the ring and 330 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to get high out over here because I 331 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: went to the Citadel and I love that side right 332 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: like like I do. And that's the whole side that 333 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot of my buddies went into. And there's another 334 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: side which is like really interesting to me where it's 335 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: people that are looking for a senior military academy, Like 336 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't get into West Point, maybe they'd get 337 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: in Naval academy, or maybe they didn't want to. Because 338 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: the Citadel's history itself is like really cool, like Star 339 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: of the West nineteen sixty one, you know, January sixth, 340 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Citadel cadets started the Civil War. Like forget whether it's 341 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: like wrong right, that whole thing. It's just like, hey, 342 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the history here is profound of people in service for 343 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: their country and maybe more local, right, but it's like 344 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: for their country, and so the service history there is cool. 345 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: And what was interesting with my buddies is I played 346 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: rugby there and met a bunch of guys. Is I 347 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: ended up being a bunch of friends with guys from 348 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: New England and they came down to this like school 349 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: that was a part of secession, but it was a 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: respected senior military college, and so you have like one 351 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: side of the cityel it's like, hey, southern heritage. I 352 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: went here. 353 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Some of those guys serve like a good amount of them, 354 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: but maybe they don't. 355 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: They just want to like walk around the state with 356 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: the ring and then you have like the other side 357 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: that's like, hey, this like long military tradition. I can 358 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: go in commission out of here, and the culture there 359 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: is really cool. I mean it's really fun and like 360 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: any organization, I'm sure it was like the same in 361 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: your teams. Right It's like there's people I've met they're like, oh, 362 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: Seals they're the worst, and it's like Citadel guys, they're 363 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: the worst, you know whatever, they're the worst. And I'm 364 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: always like it's always a mixed bag. We're still dealing 365 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: with like the population, but for the most part, like yeah, 366 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm like. 367 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: Really proud to be a civil alumnus. 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Like I think, I think the history and the culture 369 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: there is cool and it's been great, you know, and 370 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: now fourteen years of service, it's you know, even if 371 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: it's a marine officer or a guy that like I 372 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: don't think is like it's good or think you should 373 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: do things different, it's like you got like common ground, 374 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: like hey, brother, like we both did that and it's 375 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: really cool. Right now I am I'm the battery commander 376 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: and a Batalian landing team and the operations officer. As 377 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: a civil grad, he was a year a year or 378 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: two behind me, and it's like common ground, like already right, 379 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: the same thing like talking to you, never talked to 380 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: you before. But I'm like, service guy. You make a 381 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: joke about E five's in the pre show and I'm like, yeah, 382 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: guy gets it. And so it's like you just get down. 383 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, good spot. Go dogs. Not a good football team, 384 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: but go dogs. 385 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: I just love the fact, you know, because there is 386 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: so much focus obviously on on you know, the four 387 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: major academies, whether it's you know, in a particular naval 388 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: academy and in the in West Point. But like I've 389 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: I've had the incredible opportunity to influence a couple of 390 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: young men that ended up going to vm I and 391 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: was able to learn about vm I when as the 392 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: as a result of them going. And you know, I 393 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: think what a lot of young people, in particular young 394 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: men right now is you know, you can go to 395 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: these institutions and get a dose of of you know, 396 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: the the ro OTC or and r OTC programs, get 397 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: that discipline and then you know, choose whether or not 398 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: you want to go serve or not. Do you think 399 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: that these type of institutions are what is the challenge 400 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: in terms of you know, because a lot of kids 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: are like, oh, I want to go to college and 402 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: party and have all that. 403 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: What why do you think that these. 404 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: These institutions like the Citadel and VMI and the others 405 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: are such a benefit for young men right now who 406 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: are aren't quite sure do I want to go and 407 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: you know, do five years or do fourteen like yourself? 408 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: Or do I just need the discipline the structure. Well, 409 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: how would you talk to young men making a decision 410 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 4: about joining those trying to go to those places? 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: No, it's an interesting way to put in. 413 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: And I think the like the current generation of guys 414 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: turning eighteen, it's just there's a lot shifting And I 415 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: thought one at one point it was maybe shifting in 416 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: a weird way, and then now I see guys and 417 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: seems like maybe like shifting back. I think the interesting 418 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: thing about military colleges is it's generally, you know, like 419 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: young men that believe in higher education, which is good, 420 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: but they're like, hey, I don't just want to go 421 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and like party at a frat house, like and there's 422 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: something inside of people and I don't know what it is, 423 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: and I love it, and like I think that I 424 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: possess some of it where it's like, what is the 425 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: hardest thing, Like, what's the hardest thing that the average 426 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: guy won't do? And just because like the average guy 427 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it, I want to do it. 428 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is, but like most 429 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: people will do it, so I want to do it. 430 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: And I think the military academies draw a lot of that. 431 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I look at myself and I, you know, Citadel. 432 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: My brothers are like all geniuses, really smart, smarter than me. 433 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: But I went like four years deanless and I look 434 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: at my college and I think if I was not 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: in the Citadel where it was like you will go 436 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: back to your room at nineteen hundred, and you will 437 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: study until twenty one hundred, and someone will come in 438 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: every hour to make sure that you're studying. And you 439 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: will be on campus from Monday to Thursday, except if 440 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: you have this GPA. Then on Wednesdays you're allowed to 441 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: leave after fourteen hundred, but you have to be back 442 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: by twenty hundred. And on the weekends, if the football 443 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: team wins, you can spend the night out on Saturday 444 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: or if you you know, have a four point zero, 445 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: you know there's all these rules. Yeah, for me, it 446 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: was perfect. It was like, this is exactly what I need. 447 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: But in general, I think for young guys, hey, yeah, 448 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: you can go. And I'm like my brothers went to 449 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: the University of South Carolina. I'm a game Cock fan. 450 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I got a nephew at the University of Georgia and 451 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm super proud of him. He's in like a good 452 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Christian fraternity and like, so there's a lot of stuff 453 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: you can do. 454 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: But I think there's something of. 455 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, anyone can go and get drunk at some 456 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: local town and skip a bunch of classes and get 457 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: these and like end up with a degree and be like, yeah, 458 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: I went to wherever and at the military colleges. Is 459 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: it the hardest thing in the world. No, are you 460 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: gonna face many more hard things. Absolutely, But there's something 461 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: of like at that age that I respect in folks 462 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that says, you know what, I. 463 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: Don't want to do the common path. 464 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to do the normal, easy route, and 465 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: it's the citadel like as hard as like doing something else, 466 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Like of course not right, Like it's not crazy, but 467 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you're setting yourself part a little bit 468 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: and they're like, Hey, I'm not going to do just 469 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: what every kid wants to do. 470 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: Okay, listen up, team. 471 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: I realize there are many choices when it comes to 472 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: who you choose for your cell phone service, and there are. 473 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: New ones popping up all the time. 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I think, 499 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: you know, that's kind of that the thing, you know 500 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: that if you're if you even have a modicum of ambition, right, 501 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: you know, and you or that little bit of entrepreneurial 502 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 4: spirit or the adventure or wonder loss and you like, 503 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people kids think that those 504 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: types of places stifle that, and I think the inverse 505 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: is true. I think it gives you a framework to 506 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: then you can actually really go out in the world 507 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 4: and have a structure that you can apply in if 508 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: it's the military and you get that adventure or it's 509 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: you know, starting your own business or or whatever it is. 510 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's it gives you the structure and the 511 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: confidence that for me is what I really seen about 512 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: guys coming out Like my my first platoon uh AOI 513 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: se a guy named Landry was down at Texas A 514 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 4: and M and and you know, all I would ever 515 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 4: hear about are them building that damn structure and you know, 516 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: and and enlighten it on fire and you know whatever 517 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: it was, and you know, but it was more so 518 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: like the spreed core that that existed within his group. 519 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: And can you talk a little bit about that culture, 520 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: that connection to guys in terms of pushing yourself, how 521 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: that works. 522 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: And then how you know how that kind of peer 523 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: it's not what is it. 524 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: It's like a peer a pere influence, a positive peer 525 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: influence to stay within those boundaries because they lead to 526 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: a good place. 527 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I'll transition from the from the citadel, 528 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: take it kind into business a little bit. 529 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: But get the citadel. 530 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: For example, you go through your knob, they call them 531 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: your freshmen, and it's like, you know, you're trying and shoes, 532 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: you're shining brass, you're you know, running around funny and 533 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: fast and all this stuff. But you don't want to 534 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: be the guy that like keeps the group back. And 535 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: like in a lot of times, you want to be 536 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: the guy that like propels the group forward. But the 537 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: main thing is like I don't want to be the 538 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: guy that is the problem that makes first Squad look 539 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: bad or Delta Company look better, you know, whatever the 540 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: case is. And so there's like this, Hey, I'm gonna 541 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: like do my stuff, and then I'm gonna make sure 542 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: that my roommate did his stuff, and then I'm gonna. 543 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: Go next door and do it. 544 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: And it builds like this this cohesion of hey, you know, 545 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: we're this and we're better than Charlie Company, even though 546 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: like we're all first Battalion, which we're like we love, 547 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: which is better than second Battalion. And then like you 548 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: zoom out like on a grand skit scale, and you're like, oh, 549 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing something that's like completely you know, different than 550 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: what the piers across the United States are doing. But 551 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I think you thinking about confidence and like building something 552 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: in the young man I think is huge and I've 553 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: seen that a lot in the gym, and it's kind 554 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: of what led me to open my business. Is when 555 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I got my first platoon, and it's so different. Now 556 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm deployed down like I'm talking to you, deployed on 557 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: a podcast when I first got my platoon. When I 558 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: first got my unit, it was like, hey, Lieutenant Brogie, 559 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: you'll be in Afghanistan ninety days. Like here's the training schedule, 560 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: like get ready, and like that was the mindset and 561 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: there was no talk of like liberty. Am I gonna 562 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: have time off when I'm in Ocnala, I'm I gonna 563 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: be able to Tokyo. It was like you're going to 564 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: a combat zone and you're going to shoot a bunch 565 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: of rockets and Canada artillery and like make sure that 566 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: your guys are ready, and you're like oh, And I remember. 567 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: Going to my platoon and looking at me like, man, 568 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: these guys are like so tiny. 569 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: And at the time I'm two twenty now, I was 570 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: probably two hundred pounds, and I was like these guys 571 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: like need to lift weights. And you see like these 572 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: corporals and it's just a different thing, and I don't 573 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: want to We could talk all day, probably David, but 574 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: it's it's like when I was a lieutenant, all the 575 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: court all like your E fours, e fives, e six 576 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: is were stacked and like you're the guy with like 577 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: a national defense rivet right yeah, and you're like, oh, 578 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: they've like all done stuff and it's interesting and when 579 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: now we've gone through this period with like no war 580 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: where it's like it's like now you look and it's like, well, 581 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: you've come to Canal four times, which is good, right, 582 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Like all that I'm not taking away. It's like so 583 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: much of the service's chance and timing and you know 584 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. But I say all 585 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: that to say you'd have a guy he'd already been 586 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: to combat here, I am like, haven't, but like he's 587 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: timid or he's shy, And so for me, it was 588 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: like everyone's gonna lift weights. 589 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna lift weights. 590 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: And I always say it, it's it's I'm bringing it 591 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: back to like the citadel, like doing hard things, doing 592 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: something different. It's like if you can get a twenty 593 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: year old kid to deadlift three hundred and fifty pounds, 594 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: like he's a veteran CEO, like one guaranteed he's a 595 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: betteran CEO because when he walks into a room now 596 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: or he goes into a PT session, he's like, I'm 597 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: stronger than you. What you means, I'm better than you, 598 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Like you might be smarter than you me you might 599 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: like have other things about me. Your family may have 600 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: like a higher income whatever, but like I'm stronger than 601 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: you and and like the amount of confidence. I've always 602 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: loved that, and so everywhere I've gone in the military, 603 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: not just because it's what my business is, but I'm like, 604 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: get strong. Like if you get strong, you have like 605 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: a level of confidence. And it's the same kind of 606 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: thing with the military schools or people are joining the military. 607 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: It's like a guy that's like at the citadel, Like, 608 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: is there anything like super special that happens there? Yeah, 609 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: there is, like because everyone that graduates, like I did 610 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: something that you wouldn't do. You make fun of me 611 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: because you went party for four years and I held standards. 612 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I got up, I ran the stairs, you know, I 613 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: did whatever it was. And uh yeah, I think that's 614 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: like the culture and the difference, and like I encourage 615 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: young men. I mean, I have a daughter. Now, I 616 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: don't know if i'd want her to go there, But 617 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: if I have a son, I'd be like, yeah, you 618 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: got like I go Siddle, like you gotta go sill. 619 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: It's it's like harder, it's different. Yeah, hopefully that answers that. 620 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: No, it's that was brilliant, Thank you. 621 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: And I also love the idea about cultivating strength, right, 622 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot of different ways to do that, you know. 623 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: I remember when I showed up, I thought I was, 624 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: you know, billy badass, you know, graduating buds and I 625 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: go to eighteen delta and then I show up at 626 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: Team one and like, dudes are monsters. 627 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: You know. 628 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: There's there's guys that are just huge. 629 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: And they're and they're when they're going into the you 630 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: know we're doing you know, seven thirty mustards start pet 631 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 4: and these guys are going into gym and they're just 632 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: throwing lead around for an hour and a half straight 633 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: and not you know, not not thirty five pound downball dumbells. 634 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: These dudes are like god, the seventy fives and they're 635 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: just repping out and I'm just. 636 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, like this is. 637 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: Gonna be this is really hard, Like I have to 638 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: get strong, you know. And and I think that mentality 639 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: in particular for young men is such a positive thing, right. 640 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: And Jordan and I talk about it all the time, 641 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: and he talks about you know, him meeting you you 642 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: know him, him wanting to improve and and and you know, 643 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: you needing some video editing, which what I thought was phenomenal, 644 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: you know, but it's like it's like that that that 645 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: relationship that comes out of getting strong, right, and I 646 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: and I and and and I think that's just a 647 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: phenomenal uh way to. 648 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: What is it? Position? 649 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: How to how to increase uh opportunity for yourself? Right? 650 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: The stronger you can be, the more confidence you have, 651 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: then you can flip that confidence into ambition, and then 652 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 4: you can begin to aspire to whatever it is, whether 653 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: it's you know, doing multiple combat deployments in the core 654 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: or starting a business or whatever it is. So can 655 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: you tell us where that fascination or the the it's 656 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: not fascination, the recognition that there's a correlation between strength 657 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: and success and then what what really launched you down 658 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: and that road to want to build an organization that 659 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 4: not only produces or teaches strength and conditioning, but also 660 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 4: produces the equipment for it. I think that's really the 661 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: fascinating aspect of it for me. 662 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my first battery, Tango battery. Definitely, that 663 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: was where I like cut my teeth as a coach, 664 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: Like I wanted people to get strong. I saw the 665 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: benefits add my own life you know, I grew up 666 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Southern Baptists, like very strict household, you know, weren't allowed 667 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: to do a lot of things. And like you go 668 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: to the citel and you're seeing a bunch of friends 669 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I was all state. This that 670 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: was all state that I was like, I ran around 671 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: a red ring and a wana like I like, don't 672 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: like continue, you know, like I'm like nothing. But then 673 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: I went to the gym and it's like the grounds 674 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: level at the foot of the cross, like if I'm 675 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: stronger than your rates, Like I like that at the 676 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: citadel and I lift at a bunch and then I 677 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: did that with my platoon, And what I saw was 678 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: the change in you know, mindset of human beings. And 679 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I like, I do enjoy like helping folks. But it's like, man, 680 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: if you get someone strong, you help them get through 681 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of like hard stuff in life. Like 682 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: if they like there's nothing I like better, Like you 683 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: bring someone in, teach them how deadlift. They're outing five 684 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: pounds each workout, They're doing fine. It's like a you know, 685 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pound guy, he goes deathlift two forty. 686 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: He gets the first set of five. He comes in 687 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: two days later, it's two forty five. It's not heavy, 688 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: like you're still like working form technique. He's been training 689 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: three weeks. He goes to pull up, but it's the 690 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: first time there's like some real resistance to where he 691 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: thinks like, oh, I don't know, and he like, let's go. 692 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: It's like I can't and I hate to do this, 693 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: but it's reality. You just yell at the guy. You 694 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: just freaking scream at him, and you're like, don't be 695 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: a pussy, grab the ball, up your shins into the ball, 696 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: push the floor away, and all of a sudden he's 697 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: got one out and you're like, don't stop, do the 698 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: second one. Don't be a whatever. Like you just like 699 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: braid him. And then he gets through set of five 700 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: and they finished and let go and they look at 701 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: you and it's just look of like I never thought 702 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: I could do that. Yeah, And I'm like back and 703 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: then like you have no idea you're gonna do a 704 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: three fifteen for five, like you're just getting started, and 705 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: there's like a breakthrough. So I sailed out to say 706 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: I really liked the way that it affected people, and 707 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: then I kind of started my gym on accident. I 708 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: had the coaching starting string credential. I was still in 709 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. I didn't know if I wasn't get 710 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: in or out, and I was coaching another guy. Were 711 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 1: actually opened the business with a partner, and I didn't 712 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: mean to, but I was coaching him. But I didn't 713 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: realize I was coaching him for him to get his credential. 714 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm going to open a gym, well 715 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: you open it with me, And I was like, I'm marine. 716 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the Republican Georgia for three months, 717 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: like I can't open a business. And he's like, okay, cool, 718 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna open it any of them. I was like, well, 719 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be left out, and so I 720 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, we'll be partners. So I opened 721 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: the business. That was a huge learning experience. After like 722 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: six months, I bought him. I was like, I want 723 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing and anyway that like I wanted to 724 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: develop like what I see in Marines that have like 725 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: already gotten through this barrier of hey, I want to 726 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: set up for the Marine Corps. And then like you know, 727 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: we get a coachman strength like human beings want must 728 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: want this, and so that's why I started the gym. 729 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 2: And then the gym was tough. It was really tough 730 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: at first because you like can't. 731 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: Just put a sign up and charge money and expect 732 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: he's successful. And like I thought, like I have this 733 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: product that I know is really effective, Like I'll just 734 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: be rich, and it's like, no, grant, you won't be rich. 735 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Like you have to like market to people, and like 736 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: you can't yell at seven year old woman actually, like 737 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: most people like to be yelled at in the gym setting. 738 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: But but I like, look, it was like a crash 739 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: course and I'm like still active duty. I'm like, man, 740 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: this is like hard. And then there's the whole thing 741 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: is where I'm like everyone should double at five hundred 742 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: pounds and then like maybe David Rutherford like if we 743 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: just like keep them that looked a four hundred, it's okay, right, 744 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: and like keep happy, like getting Ninja and needles have 745 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: to eat a bunch of cottage cheese and drink a 746 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: bunch of milk, and so it was it was a 747 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: crash course for me, but the intent was teach people, 748 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: you know that doing hard things like one if you 749 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: increase your physical strength, you will live longer hands down 750 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: physical strength adaptation if you get stronger. All aspects of 751 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: physical fitness includes improve and you know, everyone should get 752 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: strong And like it was like, Hey, I'm not trying 753 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: to make people always ask me like, yoh, you own 754 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: a powerlifting gym. I'm like nothing from the sort Like no, 755 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Like I own a gym where guys that work behind 756 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: computers realize they're getting older, like want to impact their kids, 757 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: need to get stronger. And they've never like they weren't 758 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: on team one, like they'd all know how to lift. 759 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: They've never seen guys throw seventy fives around. They have 760 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: no idea what to do in the gym, and I 761 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: want to bring them in, make them feel comfortable, like 762 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: teach them how to get strong and then then you 763 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: the reason they stay customers is because they see, you know, 764 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: the change in their life. And I get into the 765 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: MAK camp business stuff. But I feel like you probably 766 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: have some thoughts after all that. 767 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean it's interesting, you know, you're 768 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 4: you're in the midst of this other career, and you know, 769 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 4: being an officer in any branch of the services is 770 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 4: is intense because you know, anytime you are responsible for 771 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: other human beings, in particular other young, younger human beings 772 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 4: trying to figure things out, in particular other younger Marines. 773 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 4: I would imagine that's always a stressful The younger Marines 774 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: that I used to hang out with, we're always taxing 775 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: their officers. 776 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: That's been changed there. Nothing is sure. 777 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure so, uh, you know. 778 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 4: But to use the vehicle of something that's innate, I 779 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: think in the in the organization itself, like you know, 780 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: I think for me, it's always you know, being a 781 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 4: part of core. There's a necessity built in for strength, 782 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 4: and so to be able to teach them to do 783 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: it the right way, and then and then all of 784 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 4: a sudden to discover that, oh, this is something that 785 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 4: I would want to do with civilians as your active duty. 786 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. 787 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 4: When I was active duty, I freaking hated civilians. I 788 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: didn't want to talk to them. I couldn't take them. 789 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: They drove me nuts much less even wanting to, you know, 790 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 4: work with them to develop any strength. I mean, I 791 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: didn't even consider working with you know, human you know, civilians, adults, 792 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 4: until you know, much much later in what I do for, 793 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: you know, in. 794 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: Terms of coach and motivational coaching. 795 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: But you know, I think starting that business, what did 796 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: it teach you about yourself in terms of how how 797 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 4: much could you stretch yourself? 798 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: How much? 799 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 4: Because it's about time commitment and time allocation and the frustration. 800 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 4: I mean, any business you start requires literally, I mean 801 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 4: you have to think about it around the clock. And 802 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: that's what I think a lot of people don't get 803 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 4: whether they when they go in notchrepiuse they think they've 804 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 4: got a cool idea, you know, and like you said, 805 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: you're just going to throw up a sign and the 806 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 4: gates are gonna flood. 807 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: But that's not how it does. How'd you manage all that? 808 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: Uh? 809 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 3: At the same time. 810 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so I got my Starting Strength coaching credential, 811 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: and I had a one car garage there in California, 812 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: and I had been coaching a bunch of Marines, and 813 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: so Starting Strength had like a coach's directory and there's 814 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: like a pin on a map to show where you were. 815 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: And so I, you know, said, hey, I'm one hundred 816 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: dollars for sixty minutes. And Starting Strength is like a 817 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: very if someone wants it like they want it right, 818 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Like it's like it's most people don't know what it is, 819 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: but if they know what it is, they know it 820 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: works and they want it. And so I think it 821 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: was one hundred dollars an hour. And I remember I 822 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: was every Saturday, I had like a calum laid link 823 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: or some crap, and like every Saturday I'd coach for 824 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: like eight hours. It'd be like seven am, like some 825 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: stranger from Las Vegas would like drive to California. Because 826 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: I was starting to coach next day, next I next, 827 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to another coach and names Andy 828 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: Baker's Drenth coach. She's on like pretty popular necks and stuff. 829 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: And I remember complaining to him and he was like, oh, well, 830 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: what if you doubled your price? And I was like, well, 831 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: what do you mean. He's like, well, you're complaining that 832 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: you never have a Saturday off, Like what if your 833 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: price was doubled, Like if you made sixteen hundred dollars 834 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: instead of eight hundred dollars on that Saturday, Like, would 835 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: you be happy? 836 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, it'd be great. 837 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: He's like, well, then just double your price and if 838 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: you like lose some clients like it'll be fine because 839 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: like you'll make up for it. I was like, okay, 840 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: so I doubled the so I'd double the price, and 841 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: like I was still booked out. 842 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: I was like this is incredible, Like I'm gonna be 843 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 2: the man. 844 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 845 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: And then I was like, well what I had eight 846 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: racks at once, and I just like ran around the 847 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: room and like coach David squad and they coached Doerty squad. 848 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: And then I went over here to this guy. 849 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm like then I'd be like the richest guy ever, 850 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: Like what a great idea, and so you know not. 851 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: So that was the like open the gym and then 852 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: you open the gym and you just you just realize, 853 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: like okay, one, like most of the human populations just 854 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: want to do hard things, even in Orange County, California, 855 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: you know later South Carolina, but like where where like 856 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: people like Carolina about fitness, it's like it gets hard 857 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: every time they come in, it gets harder. It takes 858 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: a long time. Like strength training isn't free. There's no 859 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: like hey, six weeks to six apps. It's like no, 860 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: you come in here and like commit your life for 861 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: ninety minutes three times a week and oh, by the way, 862 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: everything you do outside the gym is gonna affect your performance, 863 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: and you have to do those things. And so I 864 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: was like struggling with this identity of Hey, I could 865 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: make this easier and I might have more clients, but 866 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: the thing that I believe in is that it needs 867 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: to be hard and difficult, and like those are the 868 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: people that I actually want to teach. And it was 869 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: really it was really difficult. I at a larger thing. 870 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: It is like I'm still a marine. You know, I 871 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: got eighteen months left at that point of active duty time, 872 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: and so like every moment that I'm not working marining, 873 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm like in this gym and I just immediately like 874 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: every business I had ever walked into, and I think 875 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: I'll never walk into a business ever again my entire 876 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: life until I die, and like think about it the same. Right, 877 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: It's like when you walk in and like the bathrooms clean, 878 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: the trash cans empty, like the person up front is friendly, 879 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: and like it's not the owner, and you just like 880 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: start to realize like wow, like it's really difficult to 881 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: like build this organization or this thing that like values 882 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: everything that I want even when I'm not you know, 883 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: in there. And so it was good though in the 884 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: sense that being a marine made me hire people immediately, 885 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: made me like delegate immediately, and I tell marines all 886 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: the time because a lot of guys, it's really interesting 887 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: with young guys because they're all YouTubers. 888 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: Like, sure, you have like a lot of YouTube subscribers. 889 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have a lot of subscribers, Like 890 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: let me show you accounts that they're like, but you like, 891 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, they were like really fascinated with that. They're like, 892 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: I want to open a business, and it's like, man, 893 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: there's like so much more to it than you know, 894 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: what meets the eye. 895 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: And so it was. 896 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: It was it was a steep learning curve for me. 897 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: Of most people, I think, like particularly vets or like 898 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: they go in the gym or fitness industry, they go 899 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: in and they do everything themselves, which is great and 900 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: like you can make an honest living if you do 901 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: everything yourself. But if you do everything yourself, like you 902 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: get capped out. And then the other thing that happens 903 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: is you start like hating to do the thing that 904 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: you built your business about because like you know, you're 905 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: making the cake instead of like whatever, and so that 906 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: was that was a big curve for me, and the 907 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: Marine Corps being in active duty at the time really 908 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: helped me like nope, I need like a gym manager, 909 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: I need coaches, I need to not be in there. 910 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's really helped me a lot as 911 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: it expanded into equipment and done other things and like now, 912 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: like I have been away from my business going on 913 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: ten months now, and obviously, as you know, you're never 914 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: away from your business. I'm like, I'm like on a 915 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: boat in the middle of floating off the coast Papa 916 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: New Guinea, like trying to get a. 917 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 2: Drone Wi Fi to like find out, you know, what's 918 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: sales metrics are, Like, You're never away from it. 919 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: But it did teach me a lot in terms of 920 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: like you got to delegate and use people and then 921 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: how do you not lose the identity of the business itself. 922 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, well. 923 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: I you know, I think the other thing is too 924 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 4: is in you know, the gym industry is probably one 925 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 4: of the most difficult industries to be successful in, in 926 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: particular with all the big box gyms and all that 927 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 4: stuff that are competitive. But it you know, if you 928 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 4: get a great gym culture, you know, I think that 929 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 4: really becomes what attracts people then results, Right, you come 930 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 4: in and the training's dialed in, the the culture's good, 931 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 4: and and you if you've got this whole energy and 932 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 4: it becomes this little like going back to what your 933 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 4: dad did as a church, it's it's it's a church 934 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 4: for strength, right, It's a church for you know, because 935 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: the one thing that I've always had and the gym, 936 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 4: is every time I'm dealing with, you know, a ton 937 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 4: of crap in my life, if if I go in 938 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 4: and start pushing steel, it goes it subsides right there 939 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 4: because I'm focused on my own improvement. I'm spoke focused 940 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 4: on you know, getting you know, actual physiologically stronger, but 941 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 4: that always translates into greater mental emotional strength as well too. 942 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 4: And when you can provide that whole thing to people, 943 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 4: it's infectious. And I think you know that's what great 944 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 4: gems are about, uh, because you know it's you know, 945 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 4: Jeordia and I've talked about, you know, what is what 946 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 4: is the essence of of of really the sophistication of 947 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 4: building strength. What is the program, the pro the program, 948 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 4: the programmatic approach, and which programs work well, which programs 949 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 4: don't work well, you know. And I also think, you know, 950 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 4: after the kind of the CrossFit you know, era of 951 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 4: whatever that was, and you know, I think people would 952 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 4: go in and they felt that family stuff. But you know, 953 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 4: next thing, you know, they're hurting their shoulder, they're hurting 954 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 4: their back because there it's all for speed and time 955 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 4: and the competitive aspect, and so it kind of faded, 956 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: and you know, and then this other other stuff emerges. 957 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 4: But like a great solid gym culture pulls people in 958 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: in a very like I had. 959 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 3: I had a real good buddy mine. His name was 960 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 3: Derek Christiansen. 961 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 4: He's a former marine, you know, very into like programmatic approach. 962 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 4: This is how it works, this is the system. And 963 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 4: he had the opportunity to build a really big gym 964 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 4: and ball called Revolution Fitness, and and then you know, 965 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 4: the economy collapsed and he lost the gym, and you know, 966 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: you know you and what he ended up hearing for 967 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: years afterwards is whatever came in to replace the facility, 968 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 4: there was never the culture there, and so it becomes 969 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 4: such an integral part of those dynamics is to be 970 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 4: able to go to a place where you're welcome, where 971 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 4: people are paying attention, you know, and you feel like 972 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 4: the culture is like you can. 973 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: Blend into it with this hard work and. 974 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 4: That that's one of the cool things that I think, 975 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 4: you know, as Jordie was describing you to me, that 976 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 4: really made an impact and and and so it's interesting, 977 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 4: But I'd like to just pivot real quick and talk about, 978 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 4: you know, getting into manufacturing. Can you tell us the 979 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: story about what prompted you, because running a facility in 980 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 4: and of itself, as you said, is difficult, but now 981 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 4: getting into the manufacturing industry, which is people have no 982 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 4: idea how hard it is to actually produce, to make 983 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 4: things and then sell them. And so I think it's 984 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 4: just a really cool story about how you started your 985 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 4: own kind of barbell and weights company. So would you 986 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 4: share that with us really? 987 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: So like the short version would be had the gym 988 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: actually had two gems there in California, you know, had 989 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: maybe one hundred and forty members between the two. And 990 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: the weight training program is built around a barbell, plates, 991 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: squats presses, bench presses, and deadlists, and it's like, hey, 992 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: you don't need a bunch of stuff like this is 993 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: what you want to do. Twenty twenty happened, gyms were 994 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: required to shut down. I shut down for about fifty days, 995 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: and during that time the second camp that they said 996 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: did shut down. I unbolted every power rax. I had 997 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: two gyms, each had eight racks. I had, you know, 998 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: twenty two barbels, however many pounds of plates. And I 999 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: felt like I was in the Marine Corps. I got 1000 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: fell I had just gotten out. I've been out for 1001 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: three months. But I like plotted where everyone lived, all 1002 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: my members, and I like picked locations on the map, like, Okay, 1003 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: this guy lives near David Rutherford. I know he has 1004 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: two car garage and can build a gym in there. 1005 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: Dave can go to his gym, Bob can go to 1006 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: his gym. Gym can go to that gym. And like this, 1007 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: this little garage gym will service nine members and I 1008 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: can keep them paying their membership if they go to that. Okay, boom, 1009 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: got it, you go put this out. My employees are like, 1010 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: what is happening? Like you want me to like bolt 1011 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: things to the ground. I don't know anything about anything, 1012 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: and so I remember feeling like I was like advance party. 1013 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: I'd like go, I'd drop all the equipment off I'd 1014 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: bed pre drill holes a bit. Now put this in, 1015 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: put this ball. It's like, we'll start setting this stuff up. 1016 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: And it was great, Like it was working really well 1017 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you know, as weird as it was, there 1018 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: was like a common sense of like people wanted to 1019 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: help out. And it's like all my members like really 1020 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: fired up. They knew I just like the active duty. 1021 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: So they're all paying and like we got all these 1022 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: micro gym set up. We set it up like forty 1023 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: five gyms or something. Wow. 1024 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: And then out of my stuff, I'm like, I got 1025 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: nothing left. 1026 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: So I started like calling warehouses and I found this 1027 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: warehouse somewhere and they're like, we have nine thousand pounds 1028 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: of iron. We'll give it all to you for sixty 1029 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,479 Speaker 1: cents a pound. I was like, what is it. They're 1030 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: like kettlebells, plates, you know, they rap off a bunch off. 1031 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: I'll take all of it. They're like what. I'm like, gay, 1032 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: I want all of it. They're like, well, you don't 1033 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: even look at you. I don't care what all it. 1034 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: So I get it and then I'm like dropping that 1035 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: stuff all over and then I'm out of weights again. 1036 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: And then so I started making rental packages. I'm gonna 1037 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: get to the manufacturer started making rental packages. It was 1038 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: a wooden bench that we made. It was a home 1039 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,280 Speaker 1: depost squad rack. So it's two homer buckets with concrete 1040 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: and a four by four in it. And it's a 1041 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: barbell that I bought Chinese made, like from some wholesaler 1042 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: and it's like two hundred pounds of weights. And I'm 1043 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: like getting some new software where like you sign a 1044 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: liability waiver and then you're gonna like rent this gym 1045 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: equipment for two hundred dollars a month and at Teck 1046 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: you can pay another two hundred bucks for us to 1047 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: drop it off of your house. I'm like, I'm starting 1048 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 1: like this like rental stuff. And it's like for southern California. 1049 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: Some news channel does like a thing on me La Times, 1050 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: like does an article like marine business shutdown like whatever. 1051 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like I'm. 1052 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 3: Really making it. 1053 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: And I remember being there one night and someone like 1054 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: in the chat box and the website be like do 1055 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: you ship to New York? And I just remember looking 1056 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: at it and be like no, like I'm in coast 1057 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: to me, he say California, Like I like I do 1058 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: you understand how much of Barbelle ways and they're like, 1059 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: we'll pay anything. Will you ship to New York? And 1060 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: I remember it's like it's like midnight. I'm like in 1061 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: my house, I have it like slept days. I'm like, 1062 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,959 Speaker 1: what item are you looking at? Like forty fives? Any 1063 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: number of forty fives? Will you ship to New York? 1064 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's your address? So I like 1065 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: sends me his address. I'm like on ups dot com, 1066 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 1: like no corporate account at the time, know nothing about shipping, 1067 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yet, seven hundred dollars send you four 1068 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: forty fives. He's like, how can I pay you? Like 1069 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: all right, cool? So I got like make a PayPal link, 1070 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: like send it to some guy in New York and 1071 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 1: he like checks out. I remember being in my gym 1072 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: like four rusted forty fives that bought from some warehouse. 1073 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm like shrink wrapping them together because my dumb self 1074 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: thinks that it's if one one hundred and eighty pound 1075 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: package will be cheaper than four forty five pound packages, right, 1076 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: Not true? Shrink wrapping it together, cutting like asses and 1077 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: elbows everywhere, duct tape, and like this package like I'm 1078 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: super not proud of I'm getting dropped off at ups. 1079 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, what if I just made my 1080 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: own plates? 1081 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: And I say that now, and I say it flippantly, 1082 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: and I say it funny, but that is like how 1083 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: it And so I just like Google search like United 1084 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: States foundriies, like a list pops up, it's like this foundry. 1085 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: It's like form filled. Hi, I'm a marine captain. I 1086 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: just let back to duty. My gym was closed down. 1087 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 1: I have a great plate design. No one makes plates 1088 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: in the USA. Will you help me nothing? You know 1089 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: new foundry? Hi, my name is Grandpa. Like I have 1090 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: like eight years old client stuff and what pack of 1091 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 1: foundry where we've been with since twenty twenty largest foundery 1092 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: in America Kevinn Rowe great friend of mine now, like 1093 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: would have never thought, like I'd be like, yep, that guy, 1094 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: like change the trajectory in my life, Like hey, Grant, 1095 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: can you send over? You're like auto cat design and 1096 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm like auto cad, Like I know exactly how a 1097 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: plate should be made because I'm a lifter and no 1098 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: one makes his in America. 1099 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 2: Like I don't know auto cats like what I do 1100 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 2: call a marine? 1101 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: Hey? 1102 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: You're like an engineer, right, Yeah, do you have auto CAD? 1103 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I have like the student one. It's gonna have 1104 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: a watermarker on it. Here, let me tell you everything 1105 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: about the plate. We make, the design, stend the design off. 1106 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: They come back and it's like I remember, I just 1107 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: I'll fast forward. I'm like there was a moment where 1108 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: I like, I have a six cell document and I'm 1109 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: sitting in my backyard on this like crummy table. I'm 1110 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: on my laptop and I've done like how much all 1111 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: the tooling for all the different sizes will cost. I 1112 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: have all the designs up. My laptop's like plugged into 1113 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: a TV, and I have like how much money I 1114 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: need to go in And I'm like okay, like in 1115 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: three months I'll break even. And I'm like and the 1116 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: like the next three months I make money. And I 1117 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: remember like sending it to like a couple people I 1118 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: trust be like am I crazy and They're like, yeah, 1119 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: you're crazy. I was like, yo, I don only need 1120 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty grand, Like I just refinanced 1121 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: my house and like it's COVID, like my gyms are 1122 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna be ruined, Like I should do this right, They're like, 1123 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: you should definitely not do that. You should see if 1124 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: the marine cold take you back af duty. And I 1125 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 1: kept like punching the numbers, like do it again. I'm like, well, 1126 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: let's say there's like ten percent of undown costs I 1127 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm like, yeah, I still feel like 1128 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: I should it, like I should it and I don't know. 1129 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: I just like pulled the trigger and uh got into it. 1130 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 1: And that has been like a wild five years. It's 1131 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: been great, dude. 1132 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 4: That those are the COVID stories I love more than anything. 1133 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 4: I mean those and there was so many of them 1134 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 4: that emerged out of the fitness industry that people were like, 1135 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 4: now you're not gonna tell me. I'm shutting down because 1136 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 4: health is actually what's going to get people through this thing. 1137 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 4: This is bullshit, this is ridiculous. But for you to 1138 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 4: actually go start cold calling foundries, that is my favorite 1139 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 4: part of the whole thing, man, Like that's like nineteen 1140 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 4: seventies shit right there, Like I'm going to figure it 1141 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 4: out and it. 1142 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 2: Would have never worked had that not been going on. 1143 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: So like what I now know about with packa foundry 1144 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: being madim number one, like auto agriculture foundry for us. 1145 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: We're talking John Deere, Dodge Chevy, you know, GM like 1146 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: that that is their stuff, Like what do we know 1147 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: about that timeframe? All that stuff because everyone stopped doing everything. 1148 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: And it's like they're also scrambling, right, I don't think 1149 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: they're probably on a podcast saying like and then Grant 1150 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: Brogie cult in our lives have changed forever, but they're 1151 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: also scrambling and they're looking for people that use conversion 1152 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: iron and like it was like it was a great 1153 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: fit and uh yeah, but it was. It was. It 1154 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: was really shocking and that took I think when that 1155 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: took my business, like we still have like online coaching services, 1156 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: still have the gyms. 1157 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 2: We still do that. 1158 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: But what that taught me is a business owner was 1159 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: about real scale and there's like culture and I think 1160 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: this is like I thought about if they could reflect 1161 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: on so many things this year, being deployed, being away 1162 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: from my wife, my daughter. But it's like like the 1163 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: Marine Corps, Like the Marine Corps culture, like it does 1164 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: not change. And part of it is because the smallest organization, 1165 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of crazy stuff happens. But it's like 1166 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps culture, you know, it is what it 1167 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: is and like you talk about like my gym, it's 1168 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: like when you're in the gym and you're you know, 1169 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: you're yelling and you're screaming and you're with people, like 1170 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: you create this culture. But like that's really hard to 1171 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: like make big. It's really hard to say now I'm 1172 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna have fifty of these gyms across the country because 1173 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: like everyone has to think like you do, operate like 1174 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: you do. And what I've really enjoyed about the plate 1175 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: business and the barbells and the equipment that we make 1176 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: is it's, hey, I don't care if you're in the 1177 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: style of strength training I'm doing. Maybe you're into power lifting, 1178 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: maybe you're in a CrossFit maybee, you're into whatever. But 1179 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: like here's what I like, here's what my company is. 1180 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: We make USA products no matter what. Here you're in 1181 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: America and they're better than anything that you can import, 1182 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: and you're going to pay more. And like we create 1183 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: jobs for other American citizens and like if you don't 1184 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: want that, Like can you find cheaper plates from China? Sure, yes, 1185 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Go get up. Like if you want 1186 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: to like support people that wake up and we'll pack 1187 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin walk into a foundry with fire, you know, 1188 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: burning and iron melting, and our truck driver that then 1189 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: takes it to a machine shot and Ampleton, Wisconsin and 1190 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: machines it down with a guy that's taken a file 1191 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: on every single plate, and then it goes to like 1192 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: a guy and you know Slinger, Wisconsin. It's going to 1193 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: ecote it black and then come to my warehouse where 1194 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: my brother in law's going to receive the truck like 1195 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: like if you like that suld of business, like that's 1196 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: what we provide and it's better and we care about it. 1197 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: That has been like what my focus been on. 1198 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Still have the gyms, love every customer that I have, 1199 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: but it's been like, hey, I think there's a part 1200 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: in this market where it's like David Routhiver wants a home. 1201 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Jammie's like, yep, I want to like walk out of 1202 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: the gym when I don't want to do something hard, 1203 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: look at my plates and be like there's a marine 1204 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: that made these plates in America, and like I support that. 1205 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 2: And so that's kind of what we've been after. 1206 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm all fired up right now, like 1207 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to like hang up on this and I'm 1208 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 4: gonna start buying some dumbbells and plates, dude, for sure, 1209 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 4: or I just you know, I think what you're talking 1210 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 4: about is is. 1211 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Is the essence of what America represents? 1212 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Right? 1213 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 4: And you know, uh, I mean just your story alone, 1214 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 4: Like guy grows up, got a pastor's son, you know, 1215 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 4: five four other brothers or brothers and sisters. 1216 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 2: Brothers, one sister, yep. 1217 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 4: Five kids growing up on pastor's life, going to the citadel, 1218 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 4: going to Marine Corps, going to combat running young men, 1219 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 4: teaching them how to strength and get hit with a 1220 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 4: pandemic that comes up with a business idea blows it up. 1221 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 4: Now you're making American steel, right, American iron man and 1222 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 4: and and you're selling it in the with that tone like, 1223 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the story that I think is coming 1224 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 4: back in America. And what I what I'm curious and 1225 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: and this is something that you know because you're still 1226 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 4: in it, right, You're still in where I believe the 1227 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 4: heartbeat of America lies. And that's within military service, right, 1228 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 4: And you know that's what what all the other stories 1229 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: kind of bleed out from. Right, They come from this 1230 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 4: focused commitment of problem solving and and unity and and 1231 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 4: mindset and culture and and that's what you represent. Are 1232 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 4: you seeing because of Pete? 1233 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 1234 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 4: And and what's going on in the new focus? I mean, 1235 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 4: I swear to God I almost like pissed myself multiple 1236 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 4: occasions in his speech to all the admirals and generals 1237 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 4: last weekend. 1238 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 3: No more fatties, right? 1239 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Uh? 1240 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 3: You know what a what a great. 1241 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 4: Message to young men who want to do something hard 1242 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 4: and improve themselves. 1243 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Are you seeing that? 1244 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 1245 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 4: That shift or change uh with new guys coming in 1246 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 4: and and and then also are you seeing a shift 1247 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 4: in a change with in your business and people wanting 1248 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 4: to get strong people kind of gravitating towards both those ideals? 1249 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 3: Are you Are you seeing that up close and personal? 1250 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think what I'd say, you know, in this 1251 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: like brine Corpserve now activate currently. I think there was 1252 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a time there it's probably like twenty teen to twenty 1253 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: twenty two or three, where like all the folks that 1254 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I came in under that were retired were like, what's 1255 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: going on with this woke bs? Is it terrible? Like 1256 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: it must be awful? And you know, I'm very proud 1257 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: of Bearing Marine. I do think it's the best, but 1258 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm not actually blowing smoke, but I would tell people's 1259 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't see like what you're concerned with, 1260 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Like you are concerned that, you know, men are putting 1261 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: on dresses and formations or like wearing furry costumes, and 1262 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: like I don't see that. I see the same marines 1263 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: that make the same dumb jokes that like still watch 1264 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: terminal lance, like drink white monsters, have way too much nicotine. 1265 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Like here's the changes I've seen. When I came in, 1266 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you dip Copenhagen and you drink coffee, and then at 1267 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: some point it was like, oh, you do monsters and 1268 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: you dip Copenhagen, and like you don't really care about coffee. 1269 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 1: And then now it's like, hey, you still drink monsters, 1270 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: but you only do zen and like no one dips, 1271 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: and like if anyone smokes, everyone thinks it's crazy. Right, 1272 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: It's like like those are the shifts that I see, 1273 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm not like the people are the same. 1274 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: I say that all to say. 1275 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: There is something happening that I think the preponderance of 1276 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: the force likes. And I watched the internet melt out 1277 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: over the past week after Secretary of Defense slash war 1278 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Secretary of War speech, and. 1279 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 2: The Marine Corps changed nothing. 1280 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: Guess what. We already have two physical fitness tests a 1281 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: year and one of them is combat related. Guess what, 1282 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: we already have to get body weight tested two times 1283 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: a year, and the body feight doesn't change, like even 1284 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: is in the document about reservist, which I am like, 1285 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: nothing changed, like not zero things change for us, And 1286 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: so the Marine Corps it's just like, oh yeah, cool, 1287 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Like the guy at the top like thinks the thing 1288 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that I have to do, that's awesome. Uh. 1289 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 2: And also on that I was. 1290 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Making the joke this week, I'm like, only in the 1291 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Marine Corps does the government shut down and all of 1292 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: us dumbasses wake up at five in the morning and 1293 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: show up to a formation in Green on Green with 1294 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a great globe out at five point thirty in the morning, 1295 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: knowing we're not gonna get paid. And she'd be like, 1296 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then someone's like the government shut down. 1297 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: It's like, well, I still have to be here, right, 1298 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and some staffs are I was like, yep, stiff, be here. 1299 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: It's like oh okay, good to go, and like you 1300 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: just bet it's in new work. So but I do 1301 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 1: think there is somewhat of a change, and the type 1302 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: like the younger formation like appreciates the change and they 1303 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: appreciate that the standard that they have to do is 1304 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: being upheld. 1305 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think it's going to be really interesting. 1306 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Like and you know, I gotta be a little careful 1307 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 1: as I'm still I think, but I think that he 1308 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: I think he did a good job and like you know, 1309 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: telling the force like, hey, like you need to be lethal, 1310 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: you need be all these sayings. I've said the jokes 1311 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times this week. I'm like, hey, what 1312 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: I've seen in fourteen years, I can only imagine what 1313 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: General for thirty eight years is seen. Like I'm actually 1314 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: okay if he's an eighteen percent body fat, because like 1315 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 1: I need his brain on his body. Right. So, but 1316 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: but like that's not the point he was making. Was 1317 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: was was well said, But uh but yeah, I think 1318 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I think it's exciting times ahead for the forces. And 1319 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like the it's like the 1320 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: commercial that I still as a kid. 1321 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it impacts you, David. 1322 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: It's like you know the waves on the beach and 1323 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the seals, right, and it's like those things like matter 1324 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: and like that's beach like there's been so much talk 1325 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: about it, and there's been a lot of talk in 1326 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 1: the formation in general. You know, you get up as 1327 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 1: like a major, you know I'm and you get in 1328 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: front of the formation. It's like when I Ran was 1329 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 1: popping off and there was a minute there we're like 1330 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: at sea and I'm like, oh, man, like we're going 1331 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: to the fifth fleet. Like we're like we're going in 1332 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: like this is it? Like we're doing the thing, and 1333 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: like you get the marine somewhere and like you got 1334 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: to talk to him like all right, guys, like who's track? 1335 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: And I ran just like look at you blank stairs 1336 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: and you're like all right, like answer, You're like you 1337 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: try to tell them right, And that's part of being 1338 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: an officer. But I will say, Charlie Kirk got killed. 1339 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,439 Speaker 1: I got in front of the formation and I'm like, hey, 1340 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: today's nine to eleven. I am in front of you 1341 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: today because nine to eleven occurred. Like that's why I'm 1342 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: standing here as a Marine major and I didn't know 1343 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: it at the time. That's why I'm here. Like something 1344 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: happened yesterday. I was super strange and out of the ordinary. 1345 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Are you guys, like go where the formation wouldn't shut up, 1346 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: like they had all opinions, Like they were like I 1347 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: can't believe. And it was like, so there's there's something 1348 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: happening in like young men. They're like thinking in a 1349 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: way that I've seen a change from the last like 1350 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: five to ten years. They're thinking about like the world. 1351 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 1: They're thinking about what they should do. They're thinking like, hey, 1352 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I should have a family, Like I should have a wife, 1353 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: I should. 1354 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Have a kid. 1355 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: And I think, like where the Secretary of War like 1356 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: what he's I think he's like going really hard to 1357 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 1: like make a point of like this is what we're 1358 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: here to do. 1359 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's I think it's exciting. 1360 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: It's exciting. 1361 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Well I can't. 1362 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I was in that transition 1363 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 4: before transition period. I went into ninety five. You know, 1364 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 4: we were the least funded we had ever been and 1365 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 4: I don't even know how long. I mean we were 1366 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 4: big barn and steering, stealing just just to conduct you know, 1367 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 4: basic IYAD drills out at Nyland, California. 1368 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 3: And then you know, nine to eleven happened. 1369 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 4: Everything changed, and you know, my last deployment with the 1370 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 4: agency was in you know, the fall twenty eleven in Pakistan, 1371 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 4: and and then I got out, and you know, and 1372 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 4: then you know, had my friends keep going. And the 1373 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 4: transition kind of began at that right when you came 1374 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 4: in and you were at the end of the GWATT 1375 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 4: and now you're in this next phase and you know, 1376 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 4: hopefully we can continue in a peaceful state. But there's 1377 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 4: a lot of kinetic things going on around the world. 1378 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 4: And you know, I've got some friends in some pretty 1379 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 4: high places right now, and you know, everybody's focused on, 1380 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 4: you know, what's happening. But I think the main focus 1381 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 4: that I'm hearing is is right where you're at, right 1382 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 4: in the heartbeat of what the future fighting force is 1383 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 4: going to be prepared to do. These young kids who 1384 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 4: are coming in who have no idea what the g 1385 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 4: WATT was, who have no idea what any of it was. 1386 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of these kids weren't even born 1387 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 4: when nine to eleven happened, you know, and so you know, 1388 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 4: that's it's a different thing. So it's it's on you, 1389 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 4: specifically your shoulders, to tell them everything that you kind 1390 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 4: of explained today about your journey is to infuse that 1391 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 4: motivation into these young war fighters. And I got to 1392 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 4: just tell you, man, you know, I'm I've really been 1393 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 4: looking forward to the conversation with you. I have profound 1394 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 4: respect for you. One just because of what you're doing, 1395 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 4: but the other is because of how much Jordi admires 1396 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,879 Speaker 4: you and how much he just how highly he speaks 1397 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 4: of you. And I'll tell you what, grant after listening 1398 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 4: to you, I'm so thankful. I feel so blessed that 1399 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 4: you are out there leading young marines, teaching them how 1400 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 4: to be strong. And then also what you're doing for 1401 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 4: the civilian community of this country and for the local 1402 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 4: workers of Wisconsin, and and and what you and what 1403 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 4: you represent. So I cannot thank you enough for taking 1404 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 4: the time while you're on deployment over in Okinawa to 1405 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 4: spend with our audience and to share your beliefs and 1406 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 4: and and what you're what you're faithful in. And I 1407 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 4: really think it's a huge impact. Can you Can you 1408 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 4: just share where people can find everything that you're doing, 1409 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 4: your strength, your gyms, your where they can purchase your equipment, 1410 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 4: the whole thing, and then what you got next coming up. 1411 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 3: That would be wonderful. Yeah. 1412 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I appreciate you having me on it's been it's 1413 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 1: been great. It's been fun to watch, uh, you know, 1414 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: JORDI help help you launch this thing and I've I've 1415 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 1: been following from the start and care about his success. 1416 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: That's been fun to see see yours as well. But yeah, 1417 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: my website Www. Dow Strength dot co is our store. 1418 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,440 Speaker 1: You can get to our coaching pages or blogs from there, 1419 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, anything you're interested on if you want to 1420 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: see what I'm up to. I'm not super active these days, 1421 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: getting more active as I get closer back to being 1422 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: in America. But I'm on X Grant SSC, Grant Story, 1423 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 1: Shrink Coach. I do like free form checks and breakdowns 1424 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: and post photos of coffee and church and barbecue, so 1425 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: you can. 1426 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Check that out. 1427 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, go over the Strength dot co to check 1428 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: everything out. But yeah, thanks for having me on. 1429 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 4: David, Thank you, Grant, God bless you, and get back safe, 1430 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 4: buddy man. 1431 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,640 Speaker 1: A couple more months and then Thanksgiving. It's gonna have 1432 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: a whole new meeting this year. Looking looking forward to 1433 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: my daughter. 1434 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 3: Oh Amen to that, Amen to that.