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You know 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: what I mean. 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of smoke, This Two Pros and a Cup of 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: Joe and I got my mad Plexico Burds with me. 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: Brady and Jonas, as you heard, are off for the week. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: They're taking a break. But you know who isn't taking 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: a break? Our guy, Yeah, Senior NFL reporter, lead content 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: strategist and the m m QB guy from the MMQB 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: dot them MQB dot Com. Yeah yeah, coming to the plate. 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna knock it out. We got our man Albert 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Breer joining us. Hey, b I we we hear that 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: your uh your jet setting while while doing the show 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: man like no days off? 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: Huh yeah yeah, so I'm in Terris right now. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: Nice, it's not it's not morning here. 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, if we have any phone issues 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: of OAR this week, I think I've got a valid excuse. 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it's valid, it is value. We'll let you, will 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: let you this time. 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 6: So Celine Dion's returning to stage. Are you going to 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 6: see Celene Deon while you're in Paris? 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna try to do well. I'm gonna try 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 7: to do things that can't do in the US. 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say no. But but uh, I'm sure 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: she'll put on a hell. 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: Of a show over here. If she I didn't even know. 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: She was here, so so yeah, I'm sure she'll put 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: on a hell of. 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: A show over here. 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of a hell of a show, uh, pooka naku. 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: We we had the conversation about him earlier. What how 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: should we be viewing this scenario A B. I mean, obviously, 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire. And listen, from all accounts 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I've gotten, he seems like he's a really really cool dude, 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: a good person. But we all know that that when 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the influence is there, when when you're not in your 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: right mind, but you're in the wrong mind, Uh, things 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: can happen. Now, whether they happened or not, that's that's 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: up to you know, the law to figure out or 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: and I'm to get through that. But checking yourself in 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: for for treatment definitely indicates that there's something that needs 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: to be fixed. What what do you have information wise 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: on the pookin the cool situation? 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean I think you know, and I 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 7: think I've. 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: Indicated this to you. 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: Guys over the last you know, a few weeks. 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 7: Like I look, I. 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: Think a piece of this is like they they've felt 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: like he had some growing up to do, and you know, 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: like I like, it's it's a fine line between having 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: a good time in your twenties and and and then 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: having a real problem, you know, and so like I 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: give him credit for that, Like I I think there's 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: an understanding of how much is on the line here 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: for him too. I mean, we saw what JSN got, 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: and you. 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 7: Know, the first thing I think everybody thinks, you know, when. 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: They see a deal like that go down, is okay, 75 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: like who's the next one? And you know the next one? 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: You know, logically when you look at the receivers who 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 4: were part of his draft class. 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: Would be would be pooking? 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: Who was so you know, I mean legitimately hundreds of 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: millions of dollars on the line for him here, you know. 81 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: And you know, if if the rams are saying to 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: him like we need you to grow up, which I 83 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: think they are, you know, then I think this is 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: a mature decision from him to to to look at 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: it and say, you. 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 7: Know, I need to take this into my own hands now. 87 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 7: So I'd applaud him for that. 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: Like obviously. 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 7: I don't think like like, I don't. 90 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: Think a lot of the things that have happened over 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: the course of last year with him are an indication 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: of who he is. But those things happen enough, and 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: they do become who you are, you know, And so I. 94 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 5: Think there's like a little bit of an acknowledgment there that. 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 7: You know, I need to take care of this now. 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: There's too much on the line for me not to 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: and I do know, you know, there are people in 98 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: the RAMS building who, you know, really feel like there's 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: a kid with a great. 100 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: Heart in there, and you. 101 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: Know, now now he's just got to kind of find 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: a way to be that person on a more full 103 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: time basis, which I think is what he's doing. 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: Go up Black. 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 6: Uh uh yeah, so uh yeah, Pooka is uh you know, 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 6: he's he's taking the right steps to to make himself better. 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 6: And it's like you said, we applaud him for that, 108 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 6: and I just I just wisher the best because he's 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 6: a superstar in this league, no doubt. 110 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 8: Uh. 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 6: You know, nobody saw him coming into this league after 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 6: being a fifth round pick to this organization, and uh, 113 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 6: you know, he's a top player and he's he's recognized that. 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 6: But I think the most important thing about it is 115 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 6: that the ownership and Sean sam Veil still showing confidence 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 6: in him and I and I just believe he's going 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 6: to get better. Uh He's he's a great player and 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 6: from what I heard, you know, everything that that has 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 6: happened to him in the past a year or so. 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 6: Speaking with TJ about this topic last season, that he's. 121 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 8: Not that kind of person, not that kind of person. 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, yeah, and I agree with that. 123 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: Like I said, like I think that that's sort of 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: where the RAMS are at, like the way you just 125 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: talked about a flex, Like, I think that's where. 126 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: The RAMS are at. 127 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: Is you know, when I when I brought this up 128 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: with RAMS people, I will say, you know, and I 129 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: have I have talked to people over there about this stuff, 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: and I would just say, they are they're they're defensive 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 4: of them, you know, they care about them, They're looking 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: out for them, and you know, I think that this 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: is probably a good example of them, like you know, 134 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: at least influencing them, maybe not convincing them, but influencing 135 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: him to look out for himself, you know. 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 7: And so you know, I know, like again, like they've been. 137 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: Almost protective of them in the way they've talked about 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: him in the aftermath of some of this stuff, where 139 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's obvious a lot of it reflects really 140 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 4: poorly on him, you know, And so you know, I 141 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 4: think in this case, it's you know, like they wanted 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: to they want to take care of them all along, 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: and and the first step to doing that is getting 144 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: you know, getting a person to to to take take 145 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: care of himself. 146 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: And I think that that's what Poopa is trying to 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: do right now. 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 7: Mhmm. 149 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you about Aaron Glenn and 150 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: his his comments ab it's as plexico early is what 151 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: they call cat. Is he being honest? Is he being 152 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: truthful or is he selling hope? How much does this 153 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: play into him being on the hot seat for this 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: upcoming season? 155 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think he has to provide hope, 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: you know, like that's the big thing. 157 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 7: And I think a lot of cases, like. 158 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: With a coach like a g where he is right now, 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: it's not so much like what the first four weeks 160 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: looked like. 161 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 7: The first six weeks looks like it's. 162 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: It's are you more than the wins and losses? And 163 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: not that they aren't important, because that's you know, why 164 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: you play is to. 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: Is a win, you know, But more than that. 166 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 7: It's, you know, is there can you see can. 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: The owner see a plan that's being executed? And you know, 168 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: when you're in a position like the Jets are where 169 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: they traded Quinn Williams, they traded Sauce Gardner, they got 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: two first round picks this year they have three first 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: round picks next year. They have four of the top 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: forty four picks this year. Can the owner see can 173 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: the fan base see the arrow pointing up? 174 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 7: So if you do get to a point where I. 175 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: Think they'll be, you know, where they're say one in 176 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: five after six. 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: Games, or there are. 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: Two and seven after nine games, can you see reasons 179 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 7: for hope? 180 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: You know? 181 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: Can you see the two first round picks that are on. 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 7: Their roster starting to play well? 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: Can you see Geno bringing the whole thing together? You know? 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 7: And I think that's part of why Geno is. 185 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: So important is because you know, in this particular circumstance. 186 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 7: It's going to be up to Gino. 187 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: To help them evaluate the roster. Because if a quarterback 188 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: is playing at a good level, it's going to give 189 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: you a better chance to evaluate what you have at 190 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: all those other positions on offense, it's hard to evaluate, 191 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: you know, it's hard for you to. 192 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: Evaluate what you have at receiver. 193 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: It's a quarterback can't get the job done. 194 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 7: So Geno becomes an important piece of that as well. 195 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 7: So to me, you know, the whole the whole thing, 196 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 7: like it's just it's going to. 197 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: Be through the course of this year about about not 198 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: just providing hope, but having that hope being visible, you know, 199 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: for everyone inside and outside the building. And so you know, 200 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: even if the record is not very good, you know, 201 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: a quarter of the way through the season, halfway through. 202 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 7: The season, you know, there are things that you can. 203 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: Point at and say that rookie's playing well, that guy 204 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: in his second year. 205 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: You know, I'm on Membo. 206 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: The level of the right tackle of the Jets from Missouri, 207 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: you can see a tangible difference. Tackle is now a strength. 208 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: With the two young guys they have with Membo and Olufashana, 209 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: those are the sorts of things you're going to be 210 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: looking for from them this year. And that's why I think, 211 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: like you know, Age, it's not just about wins and losses, 212 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: it's about showing that you're developing the talent and the 213 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: roster so the organization trusts you to execute with those 214 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: three first round picks next year. 215 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 6: I mean, we talk about developing the roster. When you 216 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 6: trade away Quinn Williams, who's the first team All Pro, 217 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: and get trade the way you're all pro. Conna, Uh, 218 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 6: do you think the New York Jets will retain Aaron 219 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 6: Glynn being a head coach if he goes through another 220 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 6: you know, three and fourteen or four and thirteen season, Uh, 221 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: or do you think he's on a hot seat? 222 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 223 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: I think well I think that's like again, plus a 224 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: lot of as going to come down to what that 225 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: looks like with the young guys, right, Like, so, how 226 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: fast the first how far past the two first round 227 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: picks progressing the four guys he drafts in the top 228 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: forty four? 229 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 7: Does it look like there's a tangible. 230 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: Difference and where those guys were in training camp versus 231 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: where they are in the middle of November. 232 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,479 Speaker 5: Does armand member. 233 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: At right tackle take a step forward? 234 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 5: Is that tangible? 235 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 6: You know? 236 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: Do you see some of the guys that the current 237 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: regime inherited, like a Will McDonald who is the first 238 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: round pick a few years ago, do you see him 239 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: making making a difference and taking a step forward. 240 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 7: Those are the. 241 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: Sorts of things that you're going to be looking for. 242 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: Is you know, is there a reason? Is there a 243 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: reason for hope? You know? 244 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 4: What are you getting out of Bracehall on the franchise tag. 245 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: When you have a team in a roster where it 246 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: is right now? 247 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: And again I think there's an acknowledgment after you know, 248 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: like an area, you know, a couple off seasons where 249 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: you see what happens to the core those guys, those 250 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: guys inherited where you had seven first round picks between 251 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two. 252 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: And only one of them is still on the roster. 253 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: You know, Like, I think there's there's got to be 254 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 4: some level of understanding. 255 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 7: For when, when when when. When that's gone on in 256 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 7: the organization, it's going to be. 257 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: Tough to win games in the here and the now. 258 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: You know, what you are looking for is the development 259 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: of the roster, and so I think that that's really 260 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: going to be the determining factor for AG coming out 261 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: of this year is what all those young guys you know, 262 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: they're going to be relying on going forward, look like, 263 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, in training camp versus what they look like 264 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 4: in week four versus what they look like in week ten, 265 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: And then ultimately at the end of the year, does 266 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: it look like a team that's on its way up? 267 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: And if it's on its way and if it looks 268 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: like it's on its way up, then you can trust 269 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: the current coaching staff to go forward and go into 270 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: what I think is gonna be a really really critical 271 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: year in twenty twenty seven, where they have three first 272 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: round picks and potentially where they could be drafting in 273 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: a quarterback of the future. 274 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Talking to senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists for 275 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: the MMQB Albert Breer, Aybe, there's rumors and then I 276 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: wonder how much of a rumor it is about Aaron 277 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: Rodgers and him potentially being linked to going to Denver. 278 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: That would be an interesting plot twist if this were true. 279 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: Can you shed any light on it? 280 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers going to Denver. 281 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Potentially, That's that's what I'm here, and I mean, that's 282 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: a report that surface that the Broncos emerged as a 283 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: potential option for Aaron Rodgers. 284 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: I think Pittsburgh would be My personal feeling is Pittsburgh. 285 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 5: It's going to be. 286 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh or nowhere else. 287 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: That would be my guess. 288 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 7: And I think, you know, like I think the reason why. 289 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: I'd say that to a LeVar is because, like I think, 290 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: over the last. 291 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: Three or four years, Aaron sort of. 292 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: Shifted his mindset when it comes to this stuff, and 293 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: you know, for years and years and years, I need 294 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: to tell you guys this, but I think he'd been 295 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 4: out so I proved to people of these more than 296 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 4: just a football. 297 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 7: Player, right like, by having all the interests. 298 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: Off the field, of being very open about talking about 299 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: all those different things. You know, there had been this 300 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: kind of image that Aaron had cultivated of like somebody's 301 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: a little eccentric and somebody who you know, cares about 302 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: things outside of football. And I remember in this conversation 303 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: with him a couple of years ago where he said, like, 304 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 4: you know, I you know, through going through all that, 305 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: like you know, he kind of, you know, came to 306 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 4: a realization, I really love football and I want to 307 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: lean into being a football player again. And so his 308 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: last year in New York, huge part of it after 309 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: coming off the Achilles was I want to I want 310 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 4: to just be at piece just playing football and get 311 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: the most out of what I have left as a 312 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: football player. Didn't go well that last year in New York, 313 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: of course, and then coming back in Pittsburgh. 314 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 7: I think he found that, you know, I think he. 315 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: Found that that that love of football again and having 316 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: the ability to to to go out. 317 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: And enjoy the game in a way. 318 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: In a way maybe he hadn't in a while, and 319 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: so I think that that would be what would draw 320 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: him back to playing again this year, and the chance 321 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: to do that in you know, the chance to do 322 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: that I think with players that he really likes, in 323 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: an environment that he really. 324 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: Likes, you know. 325 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 7: I I personally think of Pittsburgh or Boss. 326 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: For him that that was an April fool's joke. 327 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 7: I thought so, and I didn't. 328 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: The problem is the problem is I'm over here, and 329 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: I didn't want to make you sound like a hurt 330 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: and like, so like I'm over here. So I was like, 331 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: did I miss something last night? I thought that was 332 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: pretty the way I played through it, right. 333 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 8: You did you? 334 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean you handled it well because at the end 335 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: of the day, we have not heard anything take place 336 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers or the Steelers at this point. So 337 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: to throw April fools joke out on April second was 338 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: I felt like undingtendedly creative. But at the same time, 339 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: it was like, you could he be linked to any 340 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: other you know, any other teams or anything like that, 341 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: But I think you made it very clear it's Pittsburgh 342 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: or I think so. 343 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like again, I just think he likes the locker 344 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: room there, and look, part of it is too, you know, 345 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: and I think you know. 346 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: Both of you guys can speak to this better than me. 347 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: But I do think like as. 348 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: You as you become older in the league, you feel 349 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: a little bit more disconnected with your younger teammates, right 350 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: Like it's a little harder to bond with guys who 351 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: are just getting out of college as. 352 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: You get a little older in the league. 353 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: And you know, I think for Aaron, like walking into 354 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: that environment where you do have a Cam Hayward who's 355 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: been around forever, and a TJ. 356 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 7: Watt and a Jalen Ramsey and guys that are, you know. 357 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: Closer to being of his era, really created a comfort 358 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: level for him there. 359 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 7: And I think that that's part of what like helped. 360 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: Him, you kind of rediscover, you know, his joy for 361 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: just being a football player and not all the other. 362 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 6: Stuff you got the last one, plex, Yeah, I gotta 363 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 6: agree with you. I just think that Aaron Rodgers will 364 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 6: will reunite with Mike Mike McCarthy. But I'm just saying 365 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: that how long is Pittsburgh going to wait to for 366 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: Ann Rodgers to make this decision? I Mean, Ota is 367 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: right around the corner. You can't continue to wait on 368 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers to make the decision if he wants to 369 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 6: be the quarterback for your football team. So, uh, Pittsburgh 370 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 6: still has have to move forward regardless. But how long 371 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 6: are you going to wait on Aaron Rodgers. 372 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 7: I'm not going to say forever, but I do think 373 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: plus they have a good. 374 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: Comfort level where they're at and the and the reason 375 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: why is because of where they what they went through 376 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: last year and you know, like last year, just. 377 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: For people who don't know. 378 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 7: You know, he like he signed in June, but like 379 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 7: he had been. 380 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: In contact with them for three months. He was talking 381 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: to Mike Tomlin weekly. He was talking to Arthur Smith, 382 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator. 383 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 7: At the time, periodically, and so you. 384 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: Know, while Mike and Arthur didn't have a. 385 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 5: Final answer, they were. 386 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 7: You know, in constant communication with them. 387 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: They had an idea that he could wind up coming 388 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: and there was a really good chance of that, and 389 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 4: they knew what they were building for, you know. 390 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: And I think it's the same sort of thing this year. 391 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Mike McCarthy obviously has known Aaron Rodgers for 392 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: longer than Mike Tomlin and Arthur Smith did. 393 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: At that time, you know, and so. 394 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: You had that relationship, that background, and the fact that 395 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: the organization went through this last year does give them 396 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: a comfort level that that this was gonna that that 397 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: that that that Aaron's going to continue to be upfront 398 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: with them, and I think they feel like he. 399 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: Is probably going to come back one more year. They 400 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: don't have a final answer on it yet, but you know, 401 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 5: I think there's. 402 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: You know, a good feeling there that everybody's communicated with 403 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 4: each other. There's no nothing, nothing underhanded here or anything 404 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 4: like that, Like everybody knows where everybody's at. 405 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: Here's the other thing is that I do think. 406 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 7: That there is at least a potential. 407 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: Answer behind door number two there and that Kirk Cousins 408 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: is still sitting out there. And is that the ideal 409 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: answer for for the Steelers. 410 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 7: No, maybe not, But you know, with an offense, it's. 411 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: Got so many veteran guys on it, and you know, 412 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: Dk Metcalf, Mike Michael Pittman now coming over from you know, 413 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: coming over from Indianapolis, Rico Daubell who's going into seventh. 414 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 7: Year coming over for Carolina. You know, it's really an 415 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 7: offense that's. 416 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: Built for a veteran quarterback you know, who can get 417 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 4: the most out of those guys and all of their 418 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 4: know how. 419 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 7: And so even if it's not Aaron Rodgers, there is. 420 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: A guy you know and and Kirk Cousins sitting out there, 421 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: we'd be going into his fifteenth NFL season who'd be 422 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: able to unlock some of the things Aaron could. Maybe 423 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: not quite at the level that Aaron could, but at. 424 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 7: The same foot, but would be able to. 425 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: Fit in with a with a very veteran group there 426 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. 427 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: That's all We're Breer everyone, senior NFL reporter and lead 428 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: content strategists for the m MQB. 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We're talking football and things 488 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: that are going on. We got Tim Hardaway coming up 489 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: in the third hour. You won't want to miss that. 490 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: That'll be a treat to hear from him. Just got 491 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: done talking with Albert Breer. 492 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: Plex. 493 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: This one is an interesting one because again we were 494 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: talking about this at length on either Tuesday or Wednesday 495 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: show about Max Crosby, Big Max Crosby fan. I have 496 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: some theories that I threw out there. I think that 497 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: at the knee injury, the cartilage there's it's it's more 498 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: serious than maybe what people originally had thought it to be. 499 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: A lot of different comments and conclusions drawn as to 500 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: why Baltimore went in a different direction. 501 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: With Max Crosby. 502 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, apparently the Dallas Cowboys were in on 503 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: trying to get Max Crosby. And here's what Jerry Jones 504 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: had to say when wayning in on the topic of 505 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Max Crosby and why they didn't sign him or what 506 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: could have happened if they brought him in to try 507 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: and sign him. 508 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: Really, it's pretty simple for me. 509 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: There's no. 510 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 10: There's no hidden adam there. You've got to pass physical 511 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 10: and so you have to pass fiscal and we've never 512 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 10: completed an agreement until the player passes the physical. That 513 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 10: implies that yours, yours being, your doctors, your trainers, everybody 514 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 10: involved get to take a look at it. 515 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: That goes with the territory. 516 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 10: So UH would have basically looked at the same conditions 517 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 10: with the physical, and as you know, we were in 518 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 10: on making an offer for him, so he would have 519 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 10: come to Dallas and we'll all just guess what would 520 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 10: have happened. 521 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: I think we know what would have happened. 522 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: Again, I plex, I'm I'm going down the road, and like. 523 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: We could take it a step, we could take it 524 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: a step further. 525 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Right, if Dallas is in the bidding war, you have 526 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens who all but had the deal done to 527 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: get one of the most dynamic football players defenders in 528 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: the league, prolific pass rusher, high motor guy, a great 529 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: locker room guy from all accounts given on him, and 530 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to bring him into your your facility, 531 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: bring him into your ecosystem and make him a part 532 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: of your team. You cannot convince me that they changed 533 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: their minds. They changed up because they could get another 534 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: player for cheaper. It just does not add up to 535 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: me in this particular situation. But what did you take 536 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: away from hearing what Jerry had to say? 537 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 6: Oh, it doesn't add up to me either. If you're 538 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 6: jorded Jones, if you're down on offer him a contract, 539 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 6: then why did why did you not bring him to 540 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 6: Dallas to get a physical? Listen, jordde Jones says a 541 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 6: lot of things and a lot of things that we 542 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 6: do not believe, and I don't believe this. If you 543 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: wanted Max Crosby, why did you not bring him into 544 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 6: the facility for a visit and a physical? Or or 545 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 6: did you just go off the word of the Baltimore 546 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 6: doctors or what the Oakland Raiders doctor was saying. Why 547 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 6: did you not bringing him in? If you were serious 548 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: about uh bringing him to your organization, that's. 549 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 8: What I want to know. 550 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 6: He can, he can talk to me all he wants, 551 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: but you didn't bring him in for a physical and 552 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 6: we all have that proof of. 553 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: His health, and we all know physicals are different by 554 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: the doctor. After there's no there's no across the board 555 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: that if one one doctor fails a player, that the 556 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: other doctor on a different organization is going to fail 557 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the player. 558 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. 559 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: It definitely comes down to what the doctor interprets, what 560 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: they see, even just what they they kind of project 561 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: in looking at the status of a player's you know, 562 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: their their health bill and doing a you know, and 563 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: doing a physical. But I do say, dare I say, 564 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. And I think that there 565 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: is always that side of it. And Jerry Jones has 566 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: proven that sometimes he can be a tabit deceptive on 567 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: on what message he may. 568 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: Give to to the media to be pushed out there. 569 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like they're in this situation there 570 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: needs to be any type. 571 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 8: Of big. 572 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory. 573 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: I think it It has surfaced that Max Crosby is 574 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: damaged goods. I just I'm I'm a lean in on that, 575 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say based off of a owner coming 576 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: out and making it a point to say this because 577 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: he didn't have to, he didn't have to put himself 578 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: out there to weigh in on this, but he did, 579 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: and he weighed in on it, letting people know that 580 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: we were even planning on offering him. 581 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 3: So I would ask, I would push back. 582 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: On you on your what you came up with and say, 583 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: if if what you're saying is true, what is his 584 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: reasoning for for for saying this. 585 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 6: I don't it's not right for Max for him to 586 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: come out and make that statement. If you agree, bring 587 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: him in and and and UH see him medically. 588 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: But he is basing what he's saying off of the. 589 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Conclusion that another organization came up with in doing his physical. 590 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 6: Well, you know if that, if that was true, then 591 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 6: Drew Brees would. 592 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 8: Have been a Miami Dolphin. 593 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 6: That's because because when Drew brees uh contract was up, 594 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 6: he went to the Miami Dolphins, and the Miami Dolphins 595 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: failed him on the physical. That is how he got 596 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: to the New Orleans Saints. Yep, the rest is history. 597 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: But but wouldn't you still again, wouldn't you say with 598 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: the point that you're making and and the previous point, 599 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: each organization takes and does their own risk assessment they 600 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: do on the player. So all doctors are different, and 601 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: all doctors are different. So those Miami doctors were like, yeah, 602 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: we don't want to take the chance, Like if I'm 603 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: giving you if it could go. Best case scenario could 604 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: be he's able to play at a high level. 605 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: For this long. 606 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Worst case scenario says that it could go any day. 607 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: In fact, it could have gone any day before he 608 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: came and took this physical. And those are the things 609 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: like again, I'll be the first one to tell you 610 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: when I did my and I said this the other 611 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: day when I did my physical with doctor Warren in 612 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: New York, when I was being recruited to come and play. 613 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: And this kind of sucks because it kind of proves 614 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: the point my knees. My knees were were my cartilage. 615 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: I had had like two or three surgeries on my 616 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: cartilage because the way I was taking off the amount 617 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: of weight that I had put on in the league, 618 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: I was splitting my cartilage. So I had to go 619 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: keep getting my cartilage cleaned up. It started and stuff 620 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: like that, this, that and the other. And when I 621 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: got when I took my physical, he was like yeah, 622 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: he was like, it's crunching da da da this day. 623 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I see some holes. He's like, 624 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: there's somewhere And it was in my left knee. He 625 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: was in my left knee when he saw it I 626 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: could have made I did a six year deal with 627 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I wish I could have made 628 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: the six years because I would have got two Super Bowls. 629 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: But I did it. I didn't even make one year, 630 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: and I blew my achilles tending out. Well, what do 631 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: you do when you start over compensating for different parts 632 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: of you that are injured. You start over compensating. I 633 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: start over compensating. 634 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: I ended up blowing out my achilles tendon in the 635 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: same exact leg that doctor Warren looked at and said, yeah, man, 636 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: you got you got microfractures like you got. 637 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: You have holes. You can see where you're you're hitting 638 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: bone on bone in your knee like. 639 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: He said it. But you got to be able to 640 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: deal with it. Do you believe you can deal with 641 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: He asked me, you believe you can deal with it? 642 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: And he gave me a passing grade. He gave me 643 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: a wasn't great. Everything else was in order, everything else 644 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: was in line, but he did see micro fractures. I'm 645 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: just being honest with you and listening to what his 646 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: surgery was. And the Baltimore. 647 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: Ravens backing away from Max Crosby not some Joe Schmoe 648 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: off the street. Not not any geek geek in the street. 649 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta be handy with the steal, you 650 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like he's a regulator. 651 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: That guy think Max Crosby is a regulator, and they 652 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: backed away from him. I do not think this was 653 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: just financially driven. All we could get a cheaper deal. 654 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: And granted they would have been making history by giving 655 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: away as high a draft picks as they did to 656 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: get Max Crosby as a raven, but they already knew 657 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: that ahead of time when he was coming in to 658 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: do to do the interviews and do do the physical 659 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: for going onto the team. I just don't think that 660 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: there's this crazy, large conspiracy theory that they got cold 661 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 1: feet because they wanted to take Trey Henderson as a 662 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: posed to bringing in Max Crosby. Trey Hendrickson is not Again, 663 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm a double down on it, and I like Trey 664 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Hendrickson as a as a player. He's not Max Crosby. 665 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: He is not Max. 666 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 8: We can all we can all agree to that. 667 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: We can't. 668 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: We can't justify getting cold feet on Max Crosby because 669 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: you can replace him by bringing in Trey Hendrickson. 670 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't buy that. 671 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 8: I mean, he played seven years in his business. 672 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 6: Max Crosby has played with one hundred and ten football games. 673 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 6: You're going to have some elements as a player. I 674 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 6: don't know how serious it is or what he may 675 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: have linglin You says micro micro. 676 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 3: Fus, micro fractriss. 677 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 6: But the way that he plays and how he plays 678 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 6: and the results that he gets every Sunday when he 679 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 6: steps out on the football field, Uh, nothing tells me 680 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 6: that he's not going to be playing football anytime soon. 681 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 6: He's going to be playing for a few more years. 682 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 6: So if you're looking at long term, another five or 683 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 6: six years, yeah, I mean, of course he'll be going 684 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 6: into his twelve and thirteen season by then. But I 685 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: think for the next two or three or four years, 686 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: Max Crosby is going to dominate at his position, and 687 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 6: I think he's that He's going to go out this 688 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 6: year and prove that more than ever. Being the fact 689 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 6: that what Jerry Jones said about him and what the 690 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens are saying about his injuries, I believe that 691 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 6: he's still going to be able to go out and 692 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 6: dominate and be that top five player at his position. 693 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. I hope he can. 694 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: And again I think he can go out there and 695 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: and be productive. 696 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 8: And what does that say about the Raiders? Though? 697 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 6: If you're trying to trade a player that's hurt, what 698 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 6: does that say about you? 699 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: But I think that's the shade. 700 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: I think you look at it from the perspective of 701 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: saying that there's the potential that they are okay with 702 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: the with the level of what what his what his 703 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: physical will be, they're okay with take him. 704 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 8: You can't get anybody better even if he is. 705 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Listen, And I agree with that. So now the question 706 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: becomes do you want to do you want to give up? 707 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: What you're going to give up to bring him in 708 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: with the risk assessment attached to him? Is one year 709 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: good enough? It's two years good enough? Like, I think 710 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: that's the decision that you have to settle in on. 711 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 3: Is what am I okay with? 712 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: And and the Raiders listen, the Raiders shut him down. 713 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: The conversation was the Raiders are taking. 714 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 6: Believe I don't. I don't believe it. It was for 715 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 6: health purposes. 716 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Ah see. But but here's the thing, here's the thing. 717 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: When it happened, Scratch, when it when it happened, When 718 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: it happened, I would agree with you that it could 719 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: potentially be considered to be they're not planning, they're cashing 720 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: in on the season, they're done. But the fact that 721 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: he goes and he fails his physical in Baltimore, now 722 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: it comes back. I feel as though maybe the injury 723 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: was more significant than what people originally originally thought. Maybe 724 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: there's something there, And that's to me, I'm an error 725 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: on the side of there's probably something there. There's probably 726 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: something there. Now can the Raiders? Can the Raiders get 727 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: productivity out of Max Crosby for the immediate future. 728 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: I think they can as well. 729 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: But that's not to say that the risk factor that 730 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: they're taking having him that's there. 731 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: That's there, and another team wasn't willing to do it. 732 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just can't believe if you're the Las Vegas 733 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 6: right is that you're going to put Max Crosby on 734 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 6: the trading block and with crest a first round draft 735 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 6: pick for him, knowing that he's injured. Well, I can't 736 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 6: believe that they would do that. 737 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that if that's the. 738 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 6: Case, everybody everybody's talking about the Baltimore Ravens reputation. 739 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 8: What about this for the Raiders. 740 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad on that observation. 741 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm really not. I'm not mad at that observation. All Right, 742 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: we got to get to a break. 743 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: Listen. 744 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: If you missed any of today's show, don't worry about it. 745 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: If you want to catch any of it, check out 746 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. 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Yeah, well, 754 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna. 755 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: Talk a little bit, uh super quickly, super quickly. 756 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about Cayle Shanahan. 757 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about Cayle Shanahan. Well, you'll hear about it. 758 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: It has something to do with the Rams home field advantages, 759 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: all that stuff. We're gonna touch on that on the 760 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: other side of the break, you're listening to Two Pros 761 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe's Fox Sports Radio. 762 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 763 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 764 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 765 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 766 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into the show. Two Pros and 767 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe rounding out this last segment of 768 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: our two hour threes coming up on you pretty quickly, 769 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: and we will have special guests Tim Hardaway, senior NBA 770 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer point guard Soul Snatcher with that crossover, 771 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: he'll be coming on. We'll be talking some basketball in 772 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: our three of this show. 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They're 799 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 6: gonna make a deep one of the playoffs. It's going 800 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 6: to be the San Antonio Spurs versus the ok See Thunder. 801 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 6: You think that's how it's going to go down in 802 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 6: the Western Conference, in the West, in the Western Conference, 803 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 6: the Western Conference, Filers, I'll tell you what san Antonio 804 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 6: is loaded man, the guard deep and you have a 805 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 6: true unicorn in Wimby and the the the trajector do 806 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 6: that he's on as a player. What he does night 807 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 6: in and night out, nobody's ever seen it before. 808 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: I mean, he is pretty special. I just don't understand. 809 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like he's very quick or very fast, 810 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: but he's able to get it. Doesn't seem like it's 811 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: like he's too tall to be quick or be fast, 812 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: but he just he's able to get around people, like 813 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: he's able to get to the realm. He can shoot 814 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: over you, obviously, But. 815 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I don't understand how he's 816 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 3: so good man. 817 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 8: Like, don't let the smooth taste fool you. 818 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 3: I get it. I'm sure very bad