WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Robert the Doll

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Jerry. This is Short Stuff, the creeps Fill Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>Week edition, that's right. And before people get started with

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<v Speaker 1>this one, if you're in a place where you are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to endanger the life of someone else because

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving a car, just pull out the old phone

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<v Speaker 1>or the old laptop or the old tablet, the old Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>the old Newton, and just do a little image search

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<v Speaker 1>for Robert the doll mhm, because I just think knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what Robert looks like going into this is kind of nice, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And you're gonna be presented with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different images because they made a movie based on Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. One of them is like so overly

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<v Speaker 1>stylized it's not at all scary creepy looking, sure, But

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's like, holy cow, no one could ever

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<v Speaker 1>come up with that, like like like it's just too

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<v Speaker 1>scary and creepy on its own, that's the Robert, the

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<v Speaker 1>one with just part of a face basically. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>modern one looks like a Ventriloquis dummy and is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>more modern. The other one looks like an antique sort

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<v Speaker 1>of faceless, uh death child. Yeah, And indeed he is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a death child, but he is an antique

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<v Speaker 1>because um Robert was the toy and actually lifelong friend

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<v Speaker 1>and companion of a boy named Robert Eugene Otto. And

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Eugene Otto, who went by Jean, moved with his

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<v Speaker 1>family right before the turn of the twentieth century to

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<v Speaker 1>Key West, Florida, and he brought with him his doll,

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<v Speaker 1>this three foot straw filled cork faced doll named Robert Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which had been a gift from his grandfather. Right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>His granddad thought it would be funny and fun I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>much like the father in Gremlins to rek havoc on

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<v Speaker 1>a family by bringing home a gift from some place

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<v Speaker 1>far away. And I believe he went on a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Germany and got this doll that was manufactured by

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<v Speaker 1>the Steve Company, who the maker of Teddy Bears. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was not a toy that was ever sold, So

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<v Speaker 1>the best they can reckon is that it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been something that they made to like put in a

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<v Speaker 1>window display or something. Um, maybe to help selt Teddy Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing with Robert is he you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks kind of creepy in his little sailor's outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's all about that that nothingness of the face though. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they think that collection of dolls he was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of where clowns and jesters, so they think he actually

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<v Speaker 1>originally was a harlequin jester. And I read a nine

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<v Speaker 1>nine Palm Beach Post article about him, and they made

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<v Speaker 1>reference to a photograph from I guess the early nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and they describe him as dressed up as like

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<v Speaker 1>a harlequin jester. So and they said, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>very pleasant photograph. Right. You mentioned he's wearing a sailor's suit,

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<v Speaker 1>and he in, he definitely is, and he's been wearing

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<v Speaker 1>that sailor's suit for over a hundred years now. But

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<v Speaker 1>the sailor suit originally belonged to Jean. Jean said, here, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a hamm me down. I'm not wearing this anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be sailor boy for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of our lives. Yeah. So, I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrates the kind of closeness that Jean had with Robert Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Jean has all the hallmarks of an only child, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently did have siblings because Jean, like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of times only only children have a

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<v Speaker 1>can have a more rich imaginary life when they're little, um,

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<v Speaker 1>making up imaginary friends and things like that. And in

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<v Speaker 1>Jean's case, he it was kind of a combination of both.

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<v Speaker 1>He made up an imaginary friend in a way, but

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<v Speaker 1>it actually had a physical manner infestation in and Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>But Robert, you know, he would apparently they would uh

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<v Speaker 1>his family and then people that would that worked with

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<v Speaker 1>them would hear them, well not them hear him in

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Jean having both sides of a conversation as

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<v Speaker 1>Gene and Robert quite often, or was it Jeane exactly? So, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why stuff like that started to be

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<v Speaker 1>reported to the Auto family parents I also read like

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<v Speaker 1>a plumber heard um, Robert giggle um. The people would

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<v Speaker 1>say that he could make things move on his own

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<v Speaker 1>and you never saw him doing it. It's just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that Robert was not sitting in that chair, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. The plumber heard Robert. Yes, that's what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the plumber claimed. Sure, that's why Robert giggle so. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason people were talking about Robert like this because

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<v Speaker 1>he had already gained a reputation as being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>playfully mischievous, right. Um. And part of the reason he

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<v Speaker 1>got that reputation is because whatever Jean did wrong that

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<v Speaker 1>he would get caught doing, he would blame Robert for. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it's also very cute too write. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there were stories about how, you know, Jean's parents heard

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<v Speaker 1>him screaming in the middle of the night one night

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<v Speaker 1>and came running in to find the whole room trashed,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jean curled up in a ball in the corner. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he blamed Robert for trashing the room. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>quickly escalated as far as the legend goes, um from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, Robert wasn't sitting in that chair to

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<v Speaker 1>Robert snow costing us mind because we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>replace that night's to all right, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good break, because we're gonna pick up with time passing

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<v Speaker 1>an adult Gene who surely doesn't have the stall anymore

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<v Speaker 1>after he grows up, Right, we're going to cover that

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. Okay, we've gone forward in time now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it seems to have because Jean looks

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<v Speaker 1>way older and paunchier than he did when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a boy. So yes, I think we're too somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe the nineteen fifties. And by this time Jean

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<v Speaker 1>has super grown up. Um. He has gone off to

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and Europe Paris even to study becoming a painter.

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<v Speaker 1>He's developed quite a name for himself and Key West

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<v Speaker 1>where he's stuck around. And he also got married to

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<v Speaker 1>a very understanding woman named Ann Parker. Well why was

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<v Speaker 1>she understanding? She was understanding, Chuck, Because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that was a constant in Jean's life is Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>Jean's still hung out with Robert, Robert Jean's best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>still hanging out with Robert gets married to Anne Parker,

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<v Speaker 1>who was I think a jazz pianist, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a creative sort. He was a painter. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little eccentric, is my husband, And that's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't love Robert being around, but this is our lot

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Uh. He inherited Jeane, I guess, and Robert

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<v Speaker 1>inherited the house on Eton Street in Key West, and

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<v Speaker 1>they called it, they renamed it the Artist House, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just it was sort of a well known

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<v Speaker 1>and still is kind of a well known house in

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<v Speaker 1>Key West, because, like you said, he did make a

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<v Speaker 1>name for himself. Like if you if you look up

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<v Speaker 1>Jane auto Art like it, you know, there's there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah, I get the impression that Robert really

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<v Speaker 1>helped push along the same gene though too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it was the other way around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can tell, like Jeane clearly loved his childhood

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<v Speaker 1>because he he stayed in his boyhood home. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>his boyhood best friend Robert the doll um. But he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to add a wife to the mix. Two and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, she was definitely she would put up

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that Robert was a part of their life.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a couple of stories. Um. One is that

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, Okay, Robert can live here, but can

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<v Speaker 1>we just like keep him in the attic, and Geene

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to that, and they started keeping Robert in the attic. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well then you're gonna like this alternative story. The other

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<v Speaker 1>story is that um Geen built a room for Robert

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<v Speaker 1>in the attic and furnished it with Robert sized toys

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<v Speaker 1>and furniture, and it was Robert's room, like this attic

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<v Speaker 1>was Robert. Now, technically those two stories are not mutually exclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm guessing if you put them together you probably

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<v Speaker 1>come close to the truth. Yeah, that makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more sense, um, because I definitely don't see Jean just

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<v Speaker 1>being like, sure, I'll just junk him in the attic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I built him a very special place, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different story. So the and you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this is obviously legend and or because some

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<v Speaker 1>really spooky things that don't make sense continue to happen

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<v Speaker 1>with Robert the Doll. Like people walk by and they

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<v Speaker 1>see Robert the Doll sitting kindly in a rocking chair

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<v Speaker 1>in the original bedroom window. Uh. And apparently Jean would

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<v Speaker 1>come downstairs and be like, Robert, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be down here, and then would take Robert back up

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<v Speaker 1>into the fashioned attic room. Yeah, and then again he'd

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<v Speaker 1>find Robert sitting in the rocking chair in the window

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<v Speaker 1>of his bedroom. Again. Yeah. So um, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of how life was in the Artist's house. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Jean passed, and um, Anne continued living there um

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<v Speaker 1>with Robert uh until a little before she died. She

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<v Speaker 1>sold the house before she died in nineteen to a

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Myrtle Reuter. And um, this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>think Anne is actually a good person. As part of

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<v Speaker 1>the sale, Jean's dead. As part of the sale, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Myrtle was required to leave Robert and the attic room.

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<v Speaker 1>That alone, that was part of the real estate deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, and what's even cooler is that Myrtle or

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<v Speaker 1>Myrtle said all right, I can do that and actually

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<v Speaker 1>abided by it. Yeah, and I think abided by it

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, part of the legend we didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>talk much about is that, um, Robert like if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you cross Robert, bad things might come your way.

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<v Speaker 1>And there aren't any like huge examples of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was more mischievous and supposedly not a truly

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<v Speaker 1>evil doll. But for instance, in the mid nineties, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>finally moved to a museum, the East Martello Museum. And

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<v Speaker 1>you would, uh, as as you know, sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>fund of visiting, you were supposed to ask permission to

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<v Speaker 1>take a photograph of Robert before you did so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then if you didn't, then bad things might happen. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a who was that person was that just

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<v Speaker 1>like a historian, the director of the the Artist's House,

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<v Speaker 1>Bed and Breakfast. Okay, so this person went uh shrink

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<v Speaker 1>and ghost not a bad name for this story, goes

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<v Speaker 1>by and says basically like, Hey, I couldn't even ask

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<v Speaker 1>the stall for permission because it was you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt kind of silly, so I didn't do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>took a picture with my digital camera and the pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>uh did not come out, only a few pictures that

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<v Speaker 1>I took her even on it, and then I was

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<v Speaker 1>not able to say pictures anymore ever again on this camera? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so was it Robert? Right, But that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main reasons they tell you to ask his permission first

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<v Speaker 1>or else he's gonna mes your camera. Right, So you,

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<v Speaker 1>me and I actually did that. We've we've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>We've met Robert befour years ago. No, I didn't went

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<v Speaker 1>to Key West. Yeah, and we asked his picture. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked his permission to take his picture, and good thing. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one of the neat things I think is

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<v Speaker 1>that that in the four East Martello Museum, where he's

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<v Speaker 1>resided since and just getting more and more famous, the

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<v Speaker 1>person who donated him was Myrtle Reuter, who even after

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<v Speaker 1>she sold the Artist House, took Robert with her and

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<v Speaker 1>then just took care of him for the next twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years until she handed him off to the museum. You

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<v Speaker 1>can definitely like, go see Robert at this museum. There's

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a really neat museum on your way into

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<v Speaker 1>her out of Key West. Yeah. And as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the movies go, uh, they're very low budge that was

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<v Speaker 1>they started out. I say they because somehow there have

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<v Speaker 1>been four sequels, but they start out with just Robert. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and very seemingly loosely based on the story. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the the autos are in the story, but it's not. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a period thing. And again they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a little it's way more like Chucky

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<v Speaker 1>the Doll or something than this sort of antique looking guy,

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<v Speaker 1>just not as charming as Chucky. Yeah, and then three

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<v Speaker 1>more sequels to follow. I did watch and encourage anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the latest sequel trailer from just a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago called Robert Reborn, because it just goes the

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<v Speaker 1>story goes in some crazy directions, is all I'll say. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw on Culture Crypt their initial m review

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<v Speaker 1>of the first movie Robert. They said that, um that

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<v Speaker 1>the production company responsible has budgets barely bigger than the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of a Chipotle burrito. So unkind but so true.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very clearly low budget. But there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they made these sequels, so somebody's watching this stuff for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, or at the very at least somebody's financing them. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's true. Uh, big ups to Alison Troutner

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<v Speaker 1>and house works dot com for some help with this,

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<v Speaker 1>along with other great things and Josh's own lived experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you ever get a chance, go down to

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<v Speaker 1>the Fort East Martella Museum on your way in or

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<v Speaker 1>out of Key West and go visit Robert. And since

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<v Speaker 1>uh we talked everything we could about Robert or done

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