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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's been covering the NFL for twenty eight years,

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Speaker 1: and he drops his quarterback tears every year in August

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Speaker 1: before he goes on Vaca.

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Speaker 3: And it's fascinating for us in August.

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Speaker 1: This is what fifty gms and assistant gms and executives.

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Speaker 1: And I know everybody doesn't like anonymous quotes. I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this thirty years. You get better quotes from their

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Speaker 1: anonymous I mean, let's be honest. If your best friend

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Speaker 1: or wife drive you crazy, sometimes you tell a buddy

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Speaker 1: or a friend what you wouldn't tell your best friend

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Speaker 1: of your wife. Like people anonymously, I have a little

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Speaker 1: more courage and can air things out. And Mike Sandos

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Speaker 1: the recipient of many of those juicy tidbits of information.

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Speaker 1: He know Jones, senior NFL writer at the athletic. So

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Speaker 1: I was, I'll tell you this the one that really

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Speaker 1: I'm a little high on my sauce here because I

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Speaker 1: love I predicted Bo Nicks would go to the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: that he did well, you know, it's a confirmation bias.

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Speaker 3: But he received less two tier.

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Speaker 1: Votes than caliber Drake May So is that telling me

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Speaker 1: that GM's are telling you we love Sean Payton or

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Speaker 1: there are still people that think he's over achieving and

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Speaker 4: Like it's like one fewer Tier two vote than those guys.

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Speaker 4: I've got no worry about how anyone's seen him. I

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Speaker 4: think they really like him. And one of the great

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Speaker 4: quotes I put in there was, hey, the order of

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Speaker 4: this class is not set. Jayden Dangeles looks great, but

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Speaker 4: developing abilities of Cliff Kingsbury and Sean Payton as much

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Speaker 4: as anything. So I think that's a very bold endorsement

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Speaker 4: of Bo Nicks. And for these guys that have only

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Speaker 4: played a year, sometimes they get Tier four votes. Not

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Speaker 4: enough information is one of the sort of bailouts for that.

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Speaker 4: So you got some people who haven't seen him, or

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Speaker 4: I think there's lots of optimism on bo Nicks, and

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Speaker 4: like I said, even some who haven't set in stone

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Speaker 4: and they're allowing for the fact that maybe bo Nix

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Speaker 1: So the quotes about Caleb Williams, Holy, Whenever I see alarming,

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Speaker 1: Somebody pulled the fire extinguisher in high school alarming.

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Speaker 3: Were you alarmed when you got those?

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised at how negative the Caleb william discussion.

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Speaker 4: Was a little bit, you know, I have sensed some

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Speaker 4: of it from Ben Johnson in his public comments this offseasons,

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Speaker 4: Body language. He even made a reference was a little

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Speaker 4: In light of the fact that so many of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I made a joke.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts doesn't tend to do well in these and

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Speaker 1: my take has been they had a buy in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Better if you threw less, And I've joked that if

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Speaker 1: same guy. So when I see eight, nine, ten, I

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Speaker 1: him from the pocket. What kind of quotes do you

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Speaker 4: Funny ones. Everyone was like apologizing for how low they

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Speaker 4: all about. They think he's good, they think he's perfect

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Speaker 4: for him, but you're right. They don't think he can

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Speaker 4: put him in a different system or on a different team,

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Speaker 4: that he may sink in this whereas hey maybe it

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Speaker 4: just and Herbert. If you put him in a different system,

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Speaker 4: guys that are that are even higher than that in

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Speaker 4: Tier one would do better as stars. When you play Hurts,

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Speaker 4: you have to have a plan. But you're not like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, we're playing Hurts right, You're you're playing

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Speaker 4: that whole system, that whole team.

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Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

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Speaker 6: What the hell are you doing our studio get him, Pauli,

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Speaker 2: He's still moving.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to Jad and Daniels eventually. The quarterback that

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Speaker 1: I think is really good is Jordan Love. So I

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Speaker 1: had joke for years I had more video of Bigfoot

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Speaker 3: Then I saw him and I was like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: Matt Leflure criticized him at a press conference.

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Speaker 3: Then I saw him.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this kid's got a whip, this is

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Speaker 1: he's banged up, but he kind of regresses. So where

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Speaker 3: Where are we on Jordan Love?

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Speaker 4: Well, he's low tier two. The only guy lower in

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Speaker 4: But I thought the quotes on him were fascinating all

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Speaker 4: I think another one was, you know, talking about just

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Speaker 4: and you wonder why, and it seems odd that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'm going to defend him.

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Speaker 1: Them drafting a receiver in the first round tells you

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Speaker 1: So I'm on the Jordan love bandwagon. You've been doing

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Speaker 4: It's really not surprising as I do it, and I'm

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Speaker 4: some outlier votes, you know, among them. You know, I

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Speaker 4: But overall, I think it really makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: When you do talk about the great ones. Mahomes did

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Speaker 1: He's not as big as Alan, He's not as electric

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Speaker 4: I think for him to be perceived as falling off,

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Speaker 4: it's going to take more than his stats not being glittering,

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Speaker 4: an early early playoff ecs that with mediocre stats, Well,

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Speaker 4: super Bowl. Right, there's no one really knocking Mahomes off

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Speaker 4: he's driving a lot. With those end of game heroics.

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Speaker 4: just doesn't happen. So is this the that Denver beats him?

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Speaker 4: You know, Denver wins the division and they don't miss

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, but they're one and done. It hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 4: I think if it does, we'll see the conversation shift

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Speaker 1: he got two coordinators as head coaches and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, until Hardball got there, I didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so year. So Mike Sando. It's the athletic covering the

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Speaker 1: NFL for twenty eight years. You can spend several hours

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Speaker 1: on it. It's just a lot of fun. It's a

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Speaker 1: great read. Go on vacation with your fam. It's great

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Speaker 1: seeing you, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I think they might move on. They might want less

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Speaker 1: I think a pre and a post tier vacation is

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Speaker 4: The athletic next contract that's going in. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, thanks Mike, love I love it so much,

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Speaker 3: Here is j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 7: Turn.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news.

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Speaker 8: All right, Colin, Let's start with a couple of our teammates.

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Speaker 3: Here a Fox.

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady sat down with Shoel Klatt recently and talked

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Speaker 8: to you about quarterbacks in the game of football today

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Speaker 4: Brady only named one guy.

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Speaker 9: It's always that line about who wants to win versus

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Speaker 9: But what are the habits in the daily habits and

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Speaker 9: offensure because who he is, I mean obviously his physical talent,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's reasonable. I think

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Speaker 1: Last year he had eight or nine games or halves

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Speaker 8: Guys having won, so it's tough to like even mention

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Speaker 3: Mahomes is legendary.

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Speaker 8: Next Joy Colin, let's uh, Let's go back to Caleb

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Speaker 4: To promote a new album.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look at Travis.

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Speaker 8: There look at his outfit, Colin, I mean, really, GQ.

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Speaker 8: Travis Kelcey looks like a guy from the Stone Ages.

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Speaker 4: Well man, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Way again, he's not a quarterback. I thought he was

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Speaker 1: going to retire. I'm I'm gonna give him a little

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Speaker 1: pass for one year dating the world's most famous pop

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Speaker 1: star as a tight end. As they drafted another tight

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Speaker 1: end a couple years ago, Noah Gray to reduce his role.

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Speaker 1: Was he good when it mattered in the third down,

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Speaker 1: the fourth down, the big games?

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Speaker 3: By and large.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's also had his self admission as ten surgeries,

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Speaker 1: so I'm surprised he came back to play so.

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Speaker 3: Again at the end of your car.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brady started doing commercials after he beat at

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Speaker 1: Land in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Even Tom's like, I'm in commercials.

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Speaker 1: If you're at the end of a Hall of Fame career,

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Speaker 1: you have your money, your fame, your legacy, and multiple

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Speaker 1: rings in which you have been the number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a year that you got a

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Speaker 1: little sidetracked with the world's biggest pop star.

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Speaker 3: And I still thought he was good last year.

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Speaker 1: He just he had now admits sometimes you get distracted

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Speaker 1: I mean, can.

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Speaker 4: You just quantify good?

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Speaker 8: Last year it was by almost every metric, the worst

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Speaker 8: season of his career, of his career, right worst year

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Speaker 8: of his saying, those terrible numbers for his career are

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Speaker 8: still good for an average title.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts would kill for the like that kind of

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Speaker 3: NAT's try.

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Speaker 1: I get again, if everybody, if life is circumstantial, if

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Speaker 1: in any industry, you had ten to twelve years where

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Speaker 1: you're remember he was a middle of draft pick. If

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Speaker 1: you were great, and then let's say you went through

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Speaker 1: a divorce, or you went through a tragedy in your family,

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Speaker 1: or you were just distracted. You you you're going through

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Speaker 1: a tough time. You get one out of twelve years,

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Speaker 1: you're not quite buttoned up. He's been an unbelievable blocking,

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Speaker 1: catching leader.

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Speaker 3: There's everything about him I love. So, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting point. Hey, he's had a great run.

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Speaker 4: Let's give me in.

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Speaker 8: So if my wife kicks me to the curb and

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Speaker 8: I start dating Sydney Sweeney and I start showing up

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Speaker 8: there a little sauce for the news, would you be like, hey,

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Speaker 8: let's get Jamaka pass.

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Speaker 1: He's been with a no no, I want about four

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Speaker 1: more years of that, by the way, By the way,

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Speaker 1: he was still named a Pro Bowler. He went to

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Speaker 1: his third rate Super Bowl, the worst season of his career.

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Speaker 1: Here are the numbers top five and receiving among tight

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Speaker 1: ends at his age. He's thirty six, so again, by

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Speaker 1: his standards, worst of his career, he was still a

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Speaker 1: top five tight end. He was still the number one

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Speaker 1: target in big games. And by the way, because their

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Speaker 1: receiving crew is a mess the last two years, he

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Speaker 1: draws more doubles like it was different when Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: was getting a like he has become like the de

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Speaker 1: facto third down guy and the run game is not

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Speaker 1: as good as you want.

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Speaker 2: You admit it, though, he.

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Speaker 8: Was like a fringe top five tight end. And he's

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Speaker 8: getting older and he's doing GQ four, you would.

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Speaker 3: Be enjoying life.

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Speaker 8: Now, let's say this season he falls to he's a.

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Speaker 3: Top twelve tight end, then he should retire.

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Speaker 1: Interesting tight ends block he's old, he's had ten surgeries.

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Speaker 1: He was third in receptions among tight ends. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Where was he in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Didn't have a great super Bowl, The team did not

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Speaker 1: have a great Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: The championship game, what are you doing, Allen.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that on Foggy I just know they won.

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Speaker 1: J Mack, he did lead the Chiefs in receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: That's another one. The stay Well it's something Jmack with

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, you get into these Lebron and Brady

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Speaker 1: where they don't have down years. But it's just not

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Speaker 1: the way it just not the way it mostly works people.

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Speaker 1: You know, even a great quarterback, you change coordinators, you'll

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Speaker 1: lose your left tackle, you get hit more. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look at Kelsey. Is when you're that good for

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Speaker 1: that long at that physical a position, and then you

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Speaker 1: start dating the world's most famous pop star, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a little distracted. It's he's a great looking guy

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Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty million net worth. And for

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Speaker 1: the record, Lebron James, as great as he is, his

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Speaker 1: average is fallen for straight ears. He's just he has spurts.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey has spurts, he has games, he has halves,

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Speaker 1: he has moments. But you know these it's father time

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Speaker 1: and I think I thought he would retire. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got one more year then he'll retire. That seems

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Speaker 1: fitting next to Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone Easter, not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: So a team that we know is good.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget that the Rams took the Philadelphia Eagles to

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Speaker 1: the last series of the game in a snowstorm. For

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Speaker 1: an LA team, Rams are good. Their defense is exceptional.

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Speaker 1: They have not missed on a defensive draft pick it

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Speaker 1: seems like in three years. So Adam gross Bard is

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Speaker 1: reporting that no sign of Matt Stafford at Rams to

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Speaker 1: start practice. So there's some back concerns about Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, there was concern I was

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Speaker 1: told two years ago Les Snead and Sean McVay with

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Speaker 1: just you know, he took a lot of hits in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and he's expensive, but it's not outrageous. He is an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable leader. He's the last old quarterback that will sit

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Speaker 1: and take a helmet to the teeth. He's great. But

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Speaker 1: there are concerns the Rams. Remember they moved back last year.

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Speaker 1: They have two first round picks. The Rams are going

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Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback. They did not like this quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: They're going to draft a quarterback next year in the

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Speaker 1: first round, even if Matt Stafford is good. So it's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating year for the Rams because they love Stafford,

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Speaker 1: but he has a back disc issue and their left

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Speaker 1: tackle has a blood clot issue, I believe, so the

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Speaker 1: two things they really need next year's draft. And I

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Speaker 1: was surprised they did not draft a corner I said

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Speaker 1: that they did not draft a corner. They went with

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Speaker 1: another outside linebacker and inside linebacker because you know, they

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Speaker 1: reportedly love them, but they need a They need a

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Speaker 1: tackle and a quarterback and a cornerback. So the Rams

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Speaker 1: are really really good, but this is a little disturbing.

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback, who was in the NFL for a while,

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Speaker 1: he knows the aches and pains of an old quarterback,

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Speaker 1: talked about Stafford and his back issues.

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Speaker 10: The closest thing I could equate it to is like

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Speaker 10: you burn your mouth, like on a hot piece of

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Speaker 10: pizza or something, and it just it doesn't get better quick.

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Speaker 10: And that's kind of what the back injury typically is.

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Speaker 10: There's all different types of back injuries, but they just

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Speaker 10: don't seem to get better quick. And then even if

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Speaker 10: they do get better.

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Speaker 4: You've missed all.

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Speaker 10: This time of like heavy weight training or physicality that

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Speaker 10: goes into your off season, and you're just not the

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Speaker 10: version of yourself that you normally are. So I'd be

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Speaker 10: very concerned if I was a Rams fan right now,

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Speaker 10: just because Stafford is valuable and it's just not a

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Speaker 10: great place to be up.

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Speaker 1: Been there, and it's interesting that the Rams went and

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Speaker 1: got Davante Adams. They drafted another running back, and they

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Speaker 1: drafted a high draft pick tight end, so they and

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Speaker 1: they did not draft an offensive tackle, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was a need, so they want it feels like it's

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Speaker 1: a last hurrah. They gave an extension to Kien Williams,

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Speaker 1: so the running back class now has Blake Korum Kyen Williams,

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Speaker 1: a kid they drafted out of Auburn, I think in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round. And they added Devonte Adams to Puka

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Speaker 1: Nakua Terrence Ferguson, very good Oregon tight end, added him

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Speaker 1: to Tyler Higsby, who's a very solid BB plus tight end,

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Speaker 1: so it does feel like they're giving him pukin Devonte

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Speaker 1: Adams another tight end, another running back, but they did

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Speaker 1: pass on the offensive line, so Rob Hevenstein's a great

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Speaker 1: right tackle, but he's got maybe a year or two left,

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Speaker 1: so it is it's a little problematic, a little concerning

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Speaker 1: that Stafford and I don't need him playing in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't want Aaron Rodgers kirk cousin Stafford,

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Speaker 1: older guy's been banged up. I don't want him playing

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. I have no interest in him playing

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Speaker 1: in the preseason. But it's just something to keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on, because I mean, they they they know, and

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Speaker 1: the Rams have been very good about spotting problems. Two

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Speaker 1: years ago they had Stafford concerns injuries, but he was

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Speaker 1: He's so damn good when he plays and he's upright.

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Speaker 1: But he is the eighth most sacked quarterback since he

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Speaker 1: entered this league. You know, they they so they got

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Speaker 1: it an extra pick from the Atlanta Falcons first round.

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Speaker 1: So j Max got the Atlanta Falcons like crushing this year. Privately,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't say it because Raheem Morris, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta's very one of Sean mcvay's best friends. But

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Speaker 1: it would do the Rams really well. If remember Les Snead,

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Speaker 1: his son plays at Texas. He was spotted talking to

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Speaker 1: arch Manning. They drafted Jordan winning Hand, the wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: kind of the team leader, in the sixth round. He

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Speaker 1: popped last year in a couple of games. So they've

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Speaker 1: got they've got a lot of information at the University

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Speaker 1: of Texas. They're going to draft the quarterback. And I

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Speaker 1: had been told a year ago they just did not

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Speaker 1: like the cam Wards Shadoor Jackson dark class. They just

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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard they didn't think of They told me that

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Speaker 1: a year before. They didn't love the class. They really

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Speaker 1: like this class. So the question is if Atlanta's good

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Speaker 1: and the Rams are good, that's too late first round picks.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to move up. They

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Speaker 1: just they're not going to be able to move up

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Speaker 1: to a top four or five pick. So you kint

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Speaker 1: of hope Atlanta mediocre and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta's got the thirteenth pick coupled with their first, you

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Speaker 1: can move up to six or seven. But if Atlanta's good,

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Speaker 1: it puts them in a weird spot. Stafford's old. They

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Speaker 1: they day and remember, you got like three teams next year.

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Speaker 1: That what the Rams have to hope for is Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart is really good.

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Speaker 3: So the Giants have their quarterback. You got to root

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 1: You got to root for all these young Michael Pennix

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Speaker 1: is good but not too good. That Baker Mayfield and

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Speaker 1: Tampa win the division. I mean, this is what you're

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Speaker 1: kind of hoping for.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask Colin.

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Speaker 8: Till So I know this is a pipe dream Rams

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Speaker 8: getting Arch Manning. So I did this Friday when you

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Speaker 8: were on the golf course. Let me give you the

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Speaker 8: team and you tell me if Arch Manning, who let's say,

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Speaker 8: has a good not the best season ever, but a

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Speaker 8: really good season. He's thinking about coming out if the

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Speaker 8: New Orleans Saints get the first pick. Artist, he's familiar

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Speaker 8: with the city, the France guy. Does he come out?

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Speaker 8: Does Arch leave Texas to go to New Orleans if

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Speaker 8: they get the number one pick?

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, okay, let.

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Speaker 8: Me go with another one, Indianapolis Colts. Let's say the

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Speaker 8: bottom falls out. DJ stinks, Anthony Richardson's a joke. They

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Speaker 8: can fire the coach and draft Art one. Peyton Manning

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Speaker 8: went to Indy. Does Arch come out if Indy gets

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Speaker 8: the number one pick?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's true.

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Speaker 8: Now this is the long shot Dallas Cowboys. We don't

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Speaker 8: think they're gonna be great, But all of a sudden

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Speaker 8: it's like, hey, well we can just dust Shottenheimer after

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Speaker 8: a year.

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Speaker 4: We could get you a new coach.

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Speaker 3: Arch, come on down. Does Arts leave early for Dallas? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is the Mannings Yeah, Mannings no business. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 1: might take is this is if Arch is great, which

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Speaker 1: I think he will probably.

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Speaker 8: Now I didn't even mention the New York Giants could

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Speaker 8: be in play. Now I know you're on this hype train.

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Speaker 4: Could be good.

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Speaker 8: There's a world where the Giants stink call in and

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Speaker 8: get the number one pick. Is he coming out for

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Speaker 8: the New York Giants?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Also could fire Dable get whoever they want?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I played it. So now we're getting to, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, how many.

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Speaker 4: Teams are there that Archs would come out for.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think your bigger point is the four teams

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Speaker 1: that could possibly draft him all have a Manning connection.

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Speaker 1: Eli knows the owner of the Giants, obviously, Peyton knows

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Speaker 1: Ersay's daughters, the Saints and Arch. It's like, literally, if

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell had the root for anything, it would be

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Speaker 1: Archs to the Saints.

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Speaker 8: That would be mentioned Cleveland, and you have talked about

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Speaker 8: the connections.

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Speaker 1: No, Jimmy Sexton, Jimmy Sexton, Nick Saban, Haslam, the Mannings.

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Speaker 1: Remember you know Peyton went to school at Tennessee. Who's

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Speaker 1: the biggest booster of Tennessee. I think Haslam is probably

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Speaker 1: one or two. So it's just interesting that all the

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Speaker 1: Manning connections are the top five teams that will probably

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Speaker 1: be drafting Arch Manning, and my guess is one of

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Speaker 1: them will feel like a really good landing spot.

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Speaker 8: Can you imagine how devastated New Orleans would be if

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Speaker 8: Art said I'm not coming out and the city that

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Speaker 8: he knows great is left holding the bag?

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Speaker 4: Would no arch manay that would that would hurt?

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Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. The hurt