1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: right here. 3 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: at Drink Champs. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Big with this year Memphis, I'm back at the niggas. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: Notice the difference, just more prone present, no stones. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, y'all you already know what it is. Back 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: with another exclusive episode of rock Solid. And like I 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: always tell you, you see anybody on this platform, it's one 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: of two things, and this gentleman right here is both. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: He's solid and he was part of the rock. 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I want to welcome my brother Jim Jones to the 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: motherfucking building and we here artists to artists. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, holler, jeez, been a minute, my ge oh, man, 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: gop oh, what's up my brother? Yo, it's been forever 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: man looking good, doing good, family, doing good. Man. Yeah, 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: glass slam with you and my brother. I've been watching 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: your moves, seeing the things you've been doing. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know where to uh where 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: to start. History. 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: We haven't out that. But but besides, before the history, 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: I knew who Memphis Bleak was, right. I knew Memphis 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: Bleak for being So you gotta figure we taking it 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: back to the mid nineties, Yeah, ninety. 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: Eight, ninety nine, that's when we started linking for sure. 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: Even before that, before before our before our real thing, 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: we knew who Memphis Bleak was her through all of 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: the albums which you have featured on with Jay. Yeah. 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: You've been in those days like Bleak, that's j little 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: man Like. I know for a fact that that position 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: was a very powerful position for you at a such 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: a very young age, from starting hearing you on to 35 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: come up. 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: Yup, yup, yup, coming to age and all these records Marcie, 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: the Hollywood Me and Sauce Money. That shit was different, Jim. 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna front man like, I ain't gonna sit 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: here and act like yeah I knew or I was ready. 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: I had no fucking idamn my nigga. All I knew 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: is I wanted to impress my hood and I wanted 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: the chicks to school to know. 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: I got busy, So that was it. 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: I had no idea it was gonna turn into this, 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: So I was just riding with the dogs. 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: But growing into that position of power. I don't know 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: if you would understand the type of power that you 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: possessed from being that close to damn it, the world's favorite, 50 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: world's favorite rapper. 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: I know, man, some would say I didn't take advantage, 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: But it's like what you said, I didn't. I didn't know, man, 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Like things was happened 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: is so fast that I never got a chance. 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: To Sometimes it's not about taking advantage. 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I commend you for everything 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: that you did do And that's what I'm and this 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 3: is what we're getting at. The position you hold was 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: a very dead position, and most people wouldn't understand that 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: until they in that position, and things like that, and 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: things that we don't think about that most people think 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: about because they watching it. 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Exactly and they're not living it exactly. 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: So naturally, the first thing a person is going to 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: say looking at a person like you, was, oh, he 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: didn't he didn't take full. 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Advantage what he had with you. I would have did this, 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: so I would have did it this way. I had 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: that all the time. 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: Bro. I do know for a fact that you took 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: full advantage because of the love and loyalty you got 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: for your big brother. 73 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: That's a fact. I did what was available. You know 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: I didn't try to overstep or offend because, like like 76 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: I always say, I wasn't. 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: The only one. 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: It was a long list, you. 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. 80 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: I had to play the background and wait for my turn, 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was source money, it 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: was jazz, Oh, it was Christian. They had round and 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: then it was Ja trying to pop off. So it 84 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: was like Yo, I got to just sit there anxiously 85 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: patiently and anxiously waiting, you know what I'm saying. That's 86 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: why guys like Lenny s is very important to me 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: because he the one who sing the frustration and gave 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: me the outlet. Like yo, I got the studio. I know, producers, 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: let's lock in and let's work. And that led to 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you stay damn through all 91 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: of it. 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: And most of the names that you mentioned, I haven't 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: heard those names in years and years. 94 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: But the name that I do here in. 95 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: The whole Rocket Fuller Dynamic, yeah, has been bleaked, you 96 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: And I know what that position. 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: You had to come against a lot of adversity and 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: a lot of hate because I know how what it 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: comes with. Definitely, I know you came up across a 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: lot of hate. 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: It I don't want to say it's hate, because you know, 103 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: sometimes people have opinions and we just judge it as 104 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: hate and we automatically say that. But it was a 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: lot of hate from the hood from like more hate 106 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: I say came from those I knew than the people 107 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, because they got opinions and it's just 108 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: their opinions. 109 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: So I'm never gonna call them haters, you know what 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But a lot of a lot of the 111 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: down talking. 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna do it all, you know the place, like 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: man ain't gonna never make it, ain't gonna never blow 114 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: This rap shit is bullshit that came from those I 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: knew more than the ones I did. But like I 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: could say the same thing for you man, being the 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: capito of the set, you know what I'm saying, Like 118 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: you had this almost the similar the same pressure of 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: being the underdog to one of the top dogs from 120 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Harlem out of New York City period. So it's like 121 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: we both sitting here mirroring, mirroring the same position like 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you under if anybody 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: understand the pressure and the the hate, as they would 124 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: say I dealt with, is you because I know you 125 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: dealt with the same thing. 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I dealt with a lot of things when it 127 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: came to being that close to kim Hm. The power 128 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: I possessed in myself came with a bunch a bunch 129 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: of a lot of things, especially from people that are 130 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: close to your, people that you do know and things 131 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: like that. Those are the people who usually show they 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: hand first, you know what I mean, usually show the 133 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: hate or the discomfort or usually show I mean. And 134 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: I had to learn how to deal with that. Yeah. Yeah, 135 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: it took me a long time learning how to deal 136 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: with that because I didn't understand, yo, where was coming 137 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: from or where was stemming from. Because there was some 138 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: people that I did things for that they couldn't imagine, 139 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: They couldn't even pay me back to this day. 140 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: And it was like even those people. 141 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and I had to learn quick because it's 142 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: weird because word up, when the hard knocked life to 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: it happened, that's when the separation I feel like happened 144 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: from a lot of my friends because Jay and them 145 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: was on some shit, Yo. 146 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: They only could bring one nigga. Now, mind you, you 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: in the hood, it's seventy of y'all. It's fifty friends 148 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: you hanging with old day. And now you got to 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: sit there and think which one of these niggas, I'm 150 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: a tall he could roll and the other one hundred 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: they gonna be mad. But it didn't matter who I 152 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: picked it was. The results would have still been the same, 153 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I felt like when 154 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I came back off that tour, the welcome home wasn't 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't the welcome back may song? 156 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Trust Me? 157 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: So was you still Was you still in the projects 158 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: when you came back off that tour? 159 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I was still in the Jack Show. Bro 160 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: That was the That's the thing people don't understand. I 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: didn't move out the projects until my first album came out. 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: So coming to Age one, it's all right. 163 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Coming in Age two Hard Knocked Life tour, I was 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: in Massy my g I used to feel. 165 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Like the King of New York. 166 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: But the broke one, not not the lick one like that, 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: was the broke one. Because we had. 168 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: Come off tour and you know that was back then 169 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: when we had the Square King of New York limos 170 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: and we'd be in the limo, the limo dropping everybody 171 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: off Dame up town on first, you know what I mean, 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: rapping Rod, doing them all off up shout out Rod, Dude, 173 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: dropping off Sauce and dropping off Jay downtown where the 174 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: Barclay's at now. And then when everybody done, that ship 175 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: pulling up in Moss. So for a split second, I 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm that nigga. But when I get upstairs, 177 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: they realized, Man, I'm still in the hood. I got 178 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: a lot of work to do. It didn't It didn't 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: feel so good to me, you know what I mean. 180 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: I know how you feel. 181 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: I was. 182 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: I was in the projects. 183 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: If I think I was fortunate enough to end up 184 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: getting raided the projects, I was. 185 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: So ignorant in a lot of ways during that time 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: that I. 187 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 3: Probably I would have tried to stay in projects to 188 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: a whole lot of the success, you know what I mean. Ship, 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: I thought it was possible, especially hearing niggas like, if 190 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: you're a project nigga, you you thought niggas possible, that's 191 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: your project. You worry about too much? No, is what 192 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: you totally use sushi habitat like, and a lot of 193 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: people don't understand that you like were not taught certain things. 194 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: He told us what we got, like, that's right, get 195 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: ready to park Landbow's Roads. 196 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: Everything right there, jeury in Yo, bro and I used 197 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: to do that shit, man. And I thank God for 198 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: Tatti man because Tatar was the one who really woke 199 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: me up. Like that nigga one day, Yo, we used 200 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: to park the bench in front of the building. I 201 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: had all kind of bikes, four wheelers being down there 202 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: every day. And one day I seen Tati in the 203 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: studio went the baseline after leaving the hood. That nigga 204 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: was like, Yo, you're gonna die. And I'm looking at 205 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: that nigga like, damn. Nigga's like you think you some 206 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: tough guy. Something you don't even know. Man, I'm getting 207 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: all kind of calls around Brooklyn. Niggas is laying on 208 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: you and you ain't even focused. You out there running 209 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: around with the little homies like the oh Jesus making 210 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: calls about you. Niggas is parking outside the projects, laying 211 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: on you, watching your moves. He was like, if you 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: don't listen to me bleak, you're gonna die, and you 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: know me, I was like, damn if the og if 214 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: TA gonna give me that game, I'm gonna listen, you 215 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I started making my moves 216 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: a little bit more rare to the project. From the 217 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: same project. Yeah yeah, yup, Ta Ti, Me, Sauce, Jazz 218 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: ol j Tati, all of us from the same projects, 219 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: like none of different buildings, like Tati from across the 220 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: park from me, Sauce from across the building from him, 221 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: and Jazz from on on the other side. 222 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, j from my building. You 223 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 224 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: I want to learn the dynamic of how it really happened. 225 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: So he had it, he saw you, Yeah, growing up, 226 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: that's why. Yeah. 227 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: No, definitely, like me and j family is closer than 228 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: that's like my family, his sisters, that's like my second mother, 229 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: his mother, that's like my mother. 230 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Real project to build a ship, project building like anybody, 231 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: apartment front. 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: So Jay and them always been the niggas, So I 233 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: always wanted to be a part of that life. Like 234 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: seeing these niggas with the bikes, the cars, the girls, 235 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: the jury, like the money everything. I used to just 236 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: be sitting there like figure out what he was doing. 237 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: He was out there doing it in the project. Oh no, 238 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: my g So he was the older nigga that used 239 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: to look up to was getting money. They was rolling 240 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: my gen like, I mean rolling, bro, like they was 241 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: doing they thing to the point where I knew, whatever 242 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: going on in my apartment ain't going on in that apartment, 243 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: and I need to figure out what's going on upstairs on. 244 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: The fifth floor. Fifth floors. 245 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah. 246 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I was on the third and he was on the fifth. 247 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: And then one day I just seen him a clock 248 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: and shot my shot and that was it. 249 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Bro. 250 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: That's why niggas try to be you know on that 251 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: bio j Rod coming to age and all that shot. 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: Knowing him or knowing him, Yeah, but he ain't No 253 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: I racked. So he was shipping on me like back 254 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: then they used to call me Little Dre because everybody 255 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: knew my brother. 256 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: So I was He's like, man, stop pullshit, little Dre. 257 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: You don't rap. 258 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: You ain't got no bars, nigga, you ain't shit. So 259 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: Clark was like, they'll let me hear something. Rest in peace, 260 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: clock camp, and I spit for them, and Clark was like, yo, yo, 261 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: that record that we got, he'd probably be good for that, 262 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: and word, I had like one. 263 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Shot, bro, Clark can is so special not to cut 264 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: you off. 265 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: The first time I ever got the freestyle on the 266 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: radio with Cam doing his his rug album promo Run, 267 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: I never forget. It was a hot ninety seven nervous 268 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: and ship you heard. I don't even rap at this point. 269 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: They teaching me and making me and shit, now I'm 270 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: at the radio, they gotta do a freestyle. So I 271 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: did a freestyle on the team. Everybody didn't damn this 272 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: shitting on me. After the freestyle, shit it on you 273 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: go downstairs. Oh don't let him freestyle no more? Ever, Cam, No, don't, 274 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: don't no way. On Mama's you heard one nigga that 275 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: was dead. 276 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: It was Clark. 277 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: Camp said many come in. He said, yo, Bro, you 278 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: went crazy on that shit. Don't listen to these niggas. 279 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: They got to touch it right yo, keep digging, bro, 280 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: I promise you gonna go. Clark always respected Clock for 281 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: that for that day because that shit they did right there, 282 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: and mister who I was, Yeah, I'm just a project nigga, 283 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: y'all to put me in there, they couldn't not a zone. 284 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: I'm not here. 285 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: They could have discouraged you too, man. You know what 286 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying, one hundred percent clock rest in peace. 287 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Clock. 288 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: But the ship we just was talking about. Clark is 289 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: the only nigga who did what we dreamed of doing. 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: You know he was He stayed in Brooklyn where he 291 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: was raised, that in that house, bought it and never 292 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: moved like I always respected that, Like, damn, Clark, give 293 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: you a real one. 294 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: But you know to this day that was the same house. Yeah, 295 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: we do it. We didn't come into age in that basement. Bro. 296 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: I think we did come into age in nineteen ninety four. Five. 297 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: It came out in ninety six, and Clark still had 298 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: that house. 299 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: Bro. 300 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: That's incredible, insane, my G. 301 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: Like were but you you put a lot of imprint 302 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: on the game too, my G. Like coming up through 303 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: dipset and making your rank. It's like, what was it 304 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: like being the underdog watching Cam back then, waiting for. 305 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: Your your shine? I wasn't waiting for my shine like 306 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: I took it, you know, I mean I wasn't that. 307 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: That wasn't something that was important to me. Well, something 308 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: was important was Cam. That was the end all all 309 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: in that dynamic. That was the important, most important thing 310 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: for me. So whatever he was telling me to do 311 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: at the time as partners and dig and as the 312 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: boss of this whole situation and ship like that, I 313 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: was like, it didn't matter. Yeah, I had to fixed walls. 314 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: I was gonna fix walls. 315 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: It just right. 316 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: And that ended up being able to figure out how 317 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: to rap. And he was like, YO, figure it out, 318 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: and if you could, if you could rap like you 319 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: act outside of the streets, and I got you, We're 320 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: gonna figure that shit out. And he kind of kept 321 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: me in the loop with all all of this, all 322 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: of his albums and ship like that. But that wasn't 323 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: my fullte My fullte was making sure he was good 324 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: so we could be good. 325 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: That's right, And I I like my thing too. 326 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Would rap? 327 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: I always tell people personality is more important than lyrics, 328 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: lifestyle is He like, you know what I'm saying. So 329 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: I always tell people like you say, Yo, I ain't 330 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: know how to rap. I had to learn how to rap, 331 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: But your personality was the force of themself, was the 332 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: force of cam movement. Anytime CAM in the move, like 333 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: even when I sat there and did the interview I Cam. 334 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: I told him, Man, the. 335 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Nigga I fucked with the most out your crew was Jimmy, 336 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, And everybody I feel 337 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: like felt like that from even back then before we 338 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: linked up, when we used to be at shows and shit, 339 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: remember we still used to kick it be backstage, blowing 340 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: it down, Cam and them'ld be over there. 341 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: But I always fucked with you, Zeke and all y'all. 342 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 343 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: So yet influence shine brighter than your lyrics, like to me, 344 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: and no matter what you did, like, we both. 345 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: Had a mission, bro overall, I knew what was at 346 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: stake for both sides. I knew that we had to 347 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: build alliances. I knew that he wasn't really building alliances 348 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: m because he figured he was I'm camming. Yeah, I'm 349 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: that nigga. 350 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: He's supposed that. 351 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: Back then, you had to move like that, right you 352 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: all that that's right, You do yours and then I'm 353 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: gonna do That's right. I called it. I was outside. 354 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: I call it. 355 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: I call it life outside the velvet rope. Yeah, I 356 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: was outside. 357 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: So I had to mix with a lot of different 358 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: people from to the industries, to everything because we had 359 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: a movement that we was building it in. So I'm 360 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: trying to keep cam a start and still make the 361 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: movement be known so it could push that level, you 362 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like it's just it was a 363 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: lot of different variables to the whole ship. It became 364 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: difficult a lot of times and ship like that. But 365 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: almost all my my end or position was just to 366 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: do whatever it took to make us win. When so 367 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: we get the bag and nobody would have to depend 368 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: on nobody, this ship all crumbles, and I think we 369 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: did that. 370 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: That's a fact. No, y'all definitely did that. 371 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: Man, Like what was your feeling like when y'all first 372 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: got signed to the Rock? 373 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Like like how you what was your was signed to 374 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: the rock? 375 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: So that was the whole thing too, Like let's let's 376 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: let's let's the whole difference that movement because then y'all 377 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: dropped the compul I showed independent. Wrector is the first 378 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: artist Damnitar in New York City to do an independent deal. 379 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Remember I tried to sign and told Damon to give 380 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: me a million dollars. He laughed at me. I said cool, 381 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: and I was like, yo, I direct engineer. I was 382 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: telling them all this type of shit. He was like, Yo, 383 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: you ain't worth a million dollars. I was like, cool, 384 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: I know we had. We had did the label deal 385 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: up there, and Jewell's was the first artist that was 386 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: signed over under the label deal that we did with 387 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Diplomat and Rockefeller and shit, Jim Jones never had a 388 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: deal up a Rockefeller. I called, I got a bag 389 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: and ship like that from when it's Cam soigned the 390 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: deal and ship like that. But he gave me like 391 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars. It was cool. Damn, that's crazy. 392 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: I thought you had the whole label deal and all 393 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: of y'all was signed, because even when the compilation came out, 394 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: I pretty much did my deal on my own. Cam's 395 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: my partner. I wasn't signed to Cam Camus my partner. 396 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: I was. I was one of the CEOs. I wouldn't 397 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: get my deal at Cotch. Yeah yeah, telling Cam like, yo, 398 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: don't matter where we go. As long as people know 399 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: it's a Diplomat and it's a different artist, they gonna 400 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: go buy the records no matter if it's get jammed 401 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: Kotch whatever. 402 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: We went to catch and did an independent record deal 403 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: and shit like that. 404 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, the one of the big big 405 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: stories behind my success was like, as I took a 406 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: gamble on Damn, I was to an independent label. 407 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: I don't think nobody really know that, bro, I don't 408 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: think nobody know that story. 409 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure people think, just like me, that you 410 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: was signed to them. That's crazy that you didn't know that. 411 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: Not actually wasn't signed to the Rock as a as 412 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: a as a businessman, and I wasn't even signed as 413 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: a businessman. It was just I don't even want to 414 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: get into the all right, But that was my partner. 415 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: I was told that I was CEO, but my name 416 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: wasn't on nobody's paper. But during that time I was 417 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: a CEO the Diplomats and he had all the business 418 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: going through Rockefeller. But that was my man, like I said, 419 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: and I would do anything he asked me to do 420 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: because you're my man, praying that you would take care 421 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: of me the same way I'm taking care of you. 422 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: Going story, show up, whatever and shit like that. 423 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, during that time, Damns, the deal was with 424 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: Rockefeller for the label. 425 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: Juels was the first artist under that. 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: All I other did it was and all that was 427 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: bringing the costa after I had the success of catch Camp, 428 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: start bringing more diplomatic art artists over there and doing 429 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: doing that type of ship because you. 430 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: Definitely was the first artist on cot. 431 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: Right, well, I was the most successful artist on Cotch, 432 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: but from Diplomature first. 433 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: That you know, Cocha has been an independent label for years. 434 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: They did a lot of records, even going back to 435 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: dealing with Fat Joe and all this tues so they 436 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: was already moving and ship like that, but not at 437 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: the capacity of a death jam. 438 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: And that's why they was called independent label at that time. 439 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: So I was able to uh catapult the Diplomat's success 440 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: with the deal that I was doing with Cotch, and 441 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: it just rolled over to old Jim Jones. Diplomat an't 442 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: care about cost Let's go get the album. And I 443 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: was lucky enough to catch that catch that wave like that. 444 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: Harlem Harlem, Yeah, motherfuckers. 445 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: Man. It's a lot of lot of great people came 446 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: out of Hallard. Yeah, like and you know what's so 447 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: weird that being from Brooklyn, we consider this ship all one, 448 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: the Bronx Yonkers, all that shit on one, because all 449 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: y'all think is hanging the same places, you know what 450 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 451 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: So to us, I feel like we don't know the difference. 452 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: So I compare. I put it all into the one pot. 453 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: But y'all made y'all mark as a group. But then 454 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: you made your mark as. 455 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: A solo artist, as a boss on your own outside 456 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: the group. 457 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: How you feel about that? 458 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel good that I was able to 459 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: use my success and hard work that I had with 460 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: the Diplomats and turn that into Jim Jones's solo career 461 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: success and everything that came with all my business affairs 462 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: and ancillary business that I was able to create from 463 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: Diplomats and things like that. It felt good, you know 464 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: what I mean. And nothing was promised. It was all 465 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: God being next to me and things like that. But 466 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: the hard work that I put in being consistent or 467 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: was showing up, being relentless, not taking note for enough 468 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: and trying shit, try and shit, losing, losing, winning big, 469 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: losing a million times, win big again, like I did 470 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: it all, Like I just refused to stop, you know 471 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: what I mean. 472 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: And that was one of the things that served me 473 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: the best. 474 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: Was my relentlessness in this game. 475 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: I remember, you don't know this, right, but I'm speed. 476 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna definitely backtrack a little bit too. But this 477 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: was after the Rockefeller break up his ship and I 478 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: remember going through the city. I just I just got 479 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: to the this. When Rockefeller was leaving the Death Gym building, 480 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: we was out fiftieth Remember that was the building we was. 481 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: That was the building. And when we. 482 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Left that building, they was like, yo, Jim Jones got 483 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: an a n R deal at Atlantic. 484 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: I remember, like, yo, y'are fucking lion and on that, Nah, 485 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: somebody gotta hire me. I was hating. 486 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: I ain't goll front of you. I was was not 487 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: feeling that. I'm like Kaiser, I called Kaiser, what the 488 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: you know? What's going on? Dog? 489 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: I need to dig and ship it on me? Like, nah, 490 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 3: you can I believe how the fuck you pulled loud one. 491 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I always been had a great mind when 492 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: it came to market and even as a kid for 493 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: playing with g I Joe. 494 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: So this stuck with me. 495 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: But I got a chance in Deaf Jim when we 496 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: did the diplomat deal to pop up in one of 497 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: these marketing meetings, and that served me the best purpose. 498 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: Me and Kim wasn't agreeing on the things that they 499 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: were doing at the time about diplomatics, and I was like, 500 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: there's no way we could be seen like that. So 501 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: I made a little bit of a deck so bullet 502 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: points of what we need and shit like that. It 503 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: made the main copies for everybody, and shit, I went 504 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 3: down there the thing I still on the table, gave 505 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: everybody copies of the shit, Kevin Lows and all that shit. 506 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: They all went through it, and Kevin Lows was amazed 507 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: and called me upstairs, like I want to pay you. 508 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: I think ten or fifteen thousand dollars a month to 509 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: be a consultant. So I actually was a consultant while 510 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: we was in Rockefeller that I didn't tell nobody about 511 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: it like that. I just was taking the consultant check 512 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: for that. And then remember that whole shit stopped, Kevin 513 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: Lee all left Death Jam popped back up with the 514 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: Warner Music group shit, And then keV called me for 515 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: a meeting one day and I started my music. 516 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: This is one. I'm Jim Jones a rapper too. So 517 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: keV caught me down. I know he got all this money, 518 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: they got the new label. 519 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm thinking like, oh, I'm about to get a nice 520 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: ye okay, I bet so I go over there. He's like, yo, bro, 521 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: I know you're doing music, but that's not my concern. 522 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: You're way smaller than music. I know how to make 523 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: you super duper rich. I'm like, well, like, I want 524 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: you to be an executive here. He like, not just 525 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: any executive. It's going to be Leon, myself and then 526 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: you everybody else in this all of these buildings, Atlantic, everybody, Todd, Mosco, 527 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 3: was Joe Yahia all worked for you in that capacity. 528 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: This is a very very important job. But I need 529 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: you next to me because I've seen what you could 530 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 3: do this with Kevin telling me I shit like that. 531 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: So that's how I ended up being the A and 532 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: R director for Warner Music Group, not for the group, 533 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: not for Wanner wrect for everything was Atlantic under there. 534 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 3: It was all the labels sold. That was my position. 535 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: I just heard it was. Both buildings had office in 536 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: Leon building had offices in the Atlantic building, had had 537 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: two labels in the building. Aside for me having the 538 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: an all position that like Nigga, I was in there cooking. 539 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: But that's another thing too, that that like so. 540 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: Me being who I am, very passionate and very small 541 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: and and and I love business because I see things 542 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: from a different and one of the things that fucked 543 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: me up in that position where I kind of left 544 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: that was one day and then don't we just talking stories? 545 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: One day I'm coming out, I'm walking with Kevin and 546 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: le yoor Cam and Dame walking in the building. Dame said, 547 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: you you are working now, Yoe. You're a pumper. You 548 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: know these niggas, you know, yo, everybody old niggas he 549 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: pumpa for Kevin loves you know, Kim always want to 550 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: interject and ship like that. And I was just I 551 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: was on fire, bro. That shit. Really, that shit really 552 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: bent me in a different position, Like I was like, 553 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: I ain't doing this ship. 554 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't that. 555 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: I was more mad at what they did her because 556 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 3: you undermine what I got going exactly expect the position 557 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: I had, but maybe knew they could never be in 558 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: that position or where I was going, so they did 559 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: some shit to to tear me from where I was 560 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: actually heading. Yo, you wanna see what I'm saying. 561 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: You know, I always tell niggas that you gotta watch 562 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: jokes because some niggas can say some serious shit to 563 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: your playful way because they know you would take it 564 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: to the left way if they said it serious to you. 565 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: So they say it in a joking way, So you 566 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: gotta really pay attention to jokes because it'd be a 567 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: lot of disrespect and motherfucker be like, you know, you 568 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: laughing thinking they playing, But niggas is dad as serious 569 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: and that could have been that, you know, hate disguise. 570 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: This is a joke, Bro, you said some shit to 571 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: me that you was already doing. Nigga, you was Lee 572 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: or doup boy. That's why you had so much anty 573 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: ches them because you you not nobody boss in that situation. 574 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: You was your boss. That's right. While you walked in 575 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: that building with me them niggas, somebody else was your boss. 576 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: Everybody Rockefellow was a label. There was somebody else that 577 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: was your boss. So you walked into a building where 578 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: I became a big executive at and taught me what 579 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing is wrong when nigga you doing the same thing. 580 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: And I never told nobody about this like this in 581 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: this world. I'm just telling you, that's how that shit 582 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: struck me. I would have this. Nigga is like trying 583 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: to undermine my ship and me being so loyal you 584 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: never said nothing. Yeah, but I learned a valuable lesson 585 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: and moving forward, I knew how to handle myself in 586 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: those positions and through that that that that fucked it up, 587 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: but it was cool. I learned a lot there. Was 588 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: able to take that knowledge that I had there and 589 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: moving on and ended up with the record called Ball, 590 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: And so the joke ended up on them, that's right, 591 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: and I being an executive and had the number one 592 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: record in the country on your niggas and then you imagine. 593 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: You understand I'm trying to say. 594 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: So it was like a lot of different ship like 595 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: that coming up. We used to be fuck me up 596 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: like God, but I know where to come from, you heard. 597 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 3: I totally know where the comfortable. But it ain't here 598 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: to bash. Nobody talk about it. I'm just telling you 599 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: how it made me feel a class But through all 600 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: of that, nigga could have did anything he wanted you 601 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: to me, because that's how loyal I was to. 602 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Him, you heard. 603 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: That's why though they try to I'm never going to 604 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: get a niggas as fucking executive at Warner's All Music Group. 605 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: Now my own executive exactly. You heard. I got a 606 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: whole facility building my own relations bro on record label, 607 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 3: clothing line, casting clothing line. Were just gonna run it up. 608 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: Everything I learned off of every mistake that I had 609 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: to go through and every loss that I had to take. 610 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna put this shit on the winning street. 611 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: It's a fact, man. 612 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: Like I feel like as artists, we always take our losses, 613 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: but our losses is visible, you know what I'm saying, 614 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: and the loss of loved ones when they passed, Like 615 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: I remember when you first signed Stack Bundles Rest in Peace. Stack, Like, 616 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: to me, I felt like you was the right one 617 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: for him because he first was with Clue and Clue didn't. 618 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Know where he had bro. 619 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know the story. I sound Stacked, Nah, 620 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: one of the illest niggas. Now, definitely he was first. 621 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: First of all, I heard Stack on the radio. Didn't 622 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: know who he was. I know, you know if Cam 623 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: and that dip said ship, you know you don't love me. 624 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: He was doing the rock. He kept saying the rock, 625 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, this did did and this is the time. 626 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: Where things going on. 627 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: So I'm like this nigga sounds to the rock, Like 628 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? Like that this little niggah. 629 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: I see him screaming of the desert storm shipped and 630 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: then with Clue and I started he and I'm like, 631 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: I like this kid. And I seen him one day 632 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: at the club. He had on a big blue fur. 633 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: He said some flash it to me. I told him, 634 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: you know my mouth, the little nigga don't play out here. 635 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: But I was like, I still built the bridge. 636 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: And then somebody call him, like, yo, pull up, Jim, 637 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: want to speak you at the studio And he pulled 638 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: up a couple of dudes and I was like, Yo, 639 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: I really admin what you do. I'm building a new 640 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: label right here. We're doing this burg Gang records. You heard. 641 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you're familiar with what we got going 642 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: on in the city, and I'm giving you the opportunity 643 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: to heat. He would have been one of them one. 644 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: Let me it ain't finished. Let me tell you the flash. 645 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: He's with Clue at this time. Yes, he like what 646 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: you mean. I'm like, He's like, yeah, I should say. 647 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm like all right, but it's one thing, like you 648 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: can't leave here and try to figure it out, not 649 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: what we do. 650 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: You got to commit right now. Oh, it's no love 651 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: lost we can still do music. 652 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: But if you if this what you were going in, 653 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Nigga called clue, tell them we out just what we're doing. 654 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: Disrespect But I'm like it said your clue. But to 655 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: the side, he said, now we live burgang. Let's go 656 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: squad up, nigga, let's go world up. I love staff 657 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: Soul bro Like fact, that was an incredible, credible artist. 658 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: He definitely had his chance. He definitely would have to 659 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: be in the race. 660 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: One of the idlest artists that we've ever seen. 661 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 662 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: His energy, is personality is used to be in all 663 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: the time. 664 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: Ladies loved him. 665 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a major cool relationship with him. But 666 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: like I said, when I seen him get with y'all, 667 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: was like, nah, that's the right crew. Like you know, 668 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: certain certain niggas just need the right home. Like what 669 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: I felt all about him is the same way I 670 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: feel about albi Al. 671 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 672 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: Alb Al is one of the new animals, one of 673 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: the new animals, talented, murdering shit, personality, swag. He get 674 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: with the right camp, he's gone. 675 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: That's another thing that these young artists don't understand how 676 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: strong affiliation is even in twenty twenty five, when maybe 677 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: a Rockefeller or diplomat has been out so long, maybe 678 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: they feel like but not to even say in Rockefeller diploma. 679 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 3: But some of these grandfather than lines of affiliation are 680 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: very important to the artists because standing on your loan 681 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: is on your own is one thing. Yes, as a man, 682 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: we take nothing away fast, right, But in this game, 683 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: if you want to win, you need to want to win, 684 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: you need to be affiliated with something people know. Not 685 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: to say it like that, but like that, it's only 686 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: a few few, every few it is that's going to 687 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: be able to stand on their own and boom shit 688 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 3: that think about it. 689 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: What's the who's the last artist that stood on his own? 690 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: After Nelly completely on his own, Nelly came out completely dolo. 691 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: I mean it's an one sexy red nah bro, she 692 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: still had the affiliation who Drake? I mean that's afterwards 693 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: she's still on her own. She's still on her own. Artists, 694 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: Glow really got the affiliation of Yo Gotti. 695 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes, the affiliation she signed in Red did come out 696 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: of the fucking yeah out of nowhere. 697 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Might even think about that? 698 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: How many of the how many? 699 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is a far and feel, bro, 700 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: it's not a lot. It's not a. 701 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Lot that can be. But yeah, but Cardi B had 702 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: the TV promotion matter. What I'm trying to tell you 703 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: is that the rarity. But she is Dol and she 704 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: was Dol, she was don. That's only happened everywhere. But 705 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: for a lot of the kids that do end up bubbling, 706 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: they are affiliate with some of. 707 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: The strongest, some bigger than themself. Of course, like definitely 708 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: helps a lot. Like I ain't gonna lie, bro. One 709 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: thing I always look back, even watching your success, watching 710 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: how You Cam Santano, all of y'all move, I always, like, 711 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a Marvel head man. I watch every 712 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: Marvel movie. 713 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: And they got this shit on Disney Plus called what If, 714 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: where they show the alternate realities of different movies, if 715 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: what if this went this way and what if that 716 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: went that way? 717 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: You ever think about that, Like what if we never 718 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: had that tension because it was never nothing with us, 719 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: Like I never had an argument with you, Cam Santana 720 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: or nothing. It was business and then the shit just 721 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: went like this and next thing I know, we beefing. 722 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Like so I always think about what if none of 723 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: that happened. 724 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: When you think we would have took this shit, My gee. 725 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: What if none of that happened. Jay would have been up. 726 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: Billions, team would have been up, billions, bigs would have 727 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: been up, Billy, Bob's kids would have been up, hundreds 728 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: of understand what I'm saying. 729 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: That's a fact, bro Like. 730 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: And I thought that ship would have trickled there because 731 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: what I've seen during the time we was there and 732 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: through the separation of it was amazing ship. It was. 733 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: It was no losses being taken in and anything Rockefeller 734 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: had did at the time was was a slam dunk. 735 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: Anything Jay said or did didn't matter if he made 736 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: you put on a button up shirt, drink some lickor 737 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: oh the why. It was like this ship this was 738 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: connected and and and the way Dan was handling the 739 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: other side as far as the business concerns, that's that's 740 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: that's if so from what I've seen, that was one 741 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: of the two of the illest niggas I've seen. And 742 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: this was a lot of things that me and Cam 743 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: trace their steps because of how they were moving, Like 744 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: Jay was into all the artists with the boss and 745 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: Dan was the businessman, and a lot of other things 746 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: you did, and they protected Jay and kept the business 747 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: running for Dan was incredible in that position. So people 748 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: look back at it now try to laugh and say 749 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: he was obnoxious and all these things. Yeah, he might 750 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: have pissed a lot of people off. 751 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: He fought for us. 752 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: That's what people don't want to They don't give He 753 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: pissed everybody off who was fighting for the crew, for 754 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: his team for. 755 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: Nothing, every straight up and what it's about. 756 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: So now we look back and I'm not I don't 757 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: even care about what goes on with but I'm just 758 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: telling looking back, it is like people don't want to 759 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: give him his was about, like, come on, bro, like 760 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: them niggas built half. 761 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: Of the industry. That's a fact. 762 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: They have built by niggas like Diddy. But these niggas 763 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 3: responsible for the temperature of niggas getting money right now 764 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: to this day saying half the half the new CEOs 765 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: was interns. 766 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: Have you bro, like you niggas was dancing like dang bro, 767 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: that's a fact. Stop it stop it stops part of 768 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: this game, and. 769 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: It's cancel culture. 770 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 3: How easy it is for people to forget because of 771 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 3: the media mind folds you into thinking one thing and 772 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: ship like that, and if you think something else, they're 773 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: trying to cancel you out before you even could get 774 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: your opinion off. 775 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: So you don't sway the people's judgment and s so 776 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: fact nasty you did. 777 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: But no, it's it's a lot to it. 778 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 1: But as a man also you gotta know how to 779 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: be accountable for everything you can do. Also, Dame do 780 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: be wiling, Dame do be wiling. 781 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 3: Don't kid, but I don't care about what they gotta 782 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: give us some respect because that's why he was wilding before. 783 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: He's a different error giving us nothing. So no, he 784 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: didn't fight the way we would have got nothing. We 785 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: had nothing, gi we'd have been on the shelf waiting. Bro. 786 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: I've seen the niggas come in and get baked, busts 787 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: down Christmas chests, giving they workers eighty thousand dollars a check. 788 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Ship like that. I haven't seen Christmas. 789 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: Bonuses, Christmas bonus lion. 790 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: To say now gives artist doing it on another on 791 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: a level when niggas can't see what they're doing. That's 792 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: and that was where my respect was in that building 793 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: is watching how the niggas was moving that label and 794 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: in that building and ship like that. I mean, but 795 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: to see to see how it happened. It's just ill. 796 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 3: Like you said, there was never no problems, but the 797 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: loyalty of the two sides took it there and and 798 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: and we did it also too. But I do believe, 799 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 3: and I'm just talking, we're talking, I do believe that 800 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: if Jay and Dane would have figured out how to 801 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: have some type of conversation, none of that would have happened, 802 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: because we're gone off of what the two niggas say. 803 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: That's the fact you ride together with everybody talking shit 804 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: together to everybody's separate offices, talking ship, damus spuing when 805 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 3: he's spewing. We don't know what Jay and the but 806 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: I know on this side it was going on. I 807 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: know my position is to do whatever Cam is going 808 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: to do. That's right. So you got to ride with him, Dame. 809 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 3: I'm kim about what Cam gonna do, and I gotta 810 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: protect him and everything. 811 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: So now here we go. 812 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: And and that that's that's what I felt like broke 813 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: up the rock. It was the divide because remember it 814 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: became Harlem and then it became Brooklyn, and it was 815 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: it didn't have to be that way, No, because it 816 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: was never no drivers just because them two didn't speak 817 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: the way everybody else took on the vibe of whatever 818 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: they was around. 819 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: And then the ship just it just grew. And I 820 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: like that shit whacked man. 821 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, everybody turned down successful, 822 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: everybody turned out how figure out how to get past that. 823 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: I tell I tell people, I just had this conversation. 824 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm not perfect, No, none of us are. We would 825 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: never nobody is. 826 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm a piece of shit to somebody else, and just 827 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: the way I feel and you. 828 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: Angel to other people, you know what I'm saying. 829 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: So that's that I always say that somebody might call 830 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: me a piece of somebody gonna call me an angel 831 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: over here. Like I even had that conversation with Cam 832 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: when I was talking, when I had to talk with him, 833 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like you brought up the incident with 834 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: me and Beans, Like me and Beans are not childhood friends, 835 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like I met Beans through rap, 836 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: Like I didn't know Beans growing up in Brooklyn, and 837 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: we grew into brotherhood. Not saying that we got an 838 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: issue that can't be fixed. But I don't feel it's 839 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: as important as two people that grew up together. Like 840 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: to me, watching y'all not communicate and then watching him 841 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: and Dang go through it, that shit has whacked in me. 842 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: Bro. 843 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: I feel like we're too old, we made too much money, 844 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: our kids has grown. 845 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: We're supposed to be. 846 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: Chilling on Oprah yacht in the middle of fucking Santorini 847 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: right now, my geez right for real. 848 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: Broly right, You're absolutely right, But sometimes things don't work 849 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: like that, my brother know, Man, as much as I 850 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: cherished to take that and cherish the brotherhood that we 851 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: I can't and dwell on it. 852 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't pay it. I mean I tried. 853 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: It doesn't serve me no purpose at this point in 854 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: my life, you know what I mean. You lose friends, 855 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: you see who's really with you and things like that, 856 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: and sometimes people gonna see to. 857 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: See what they lost. 858 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: And I know losing me as a friend and a 859 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 3: brother is a cold thing. You ain't gonna meet too 860 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: many people like me, that's right, all, That's a fact. 861 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: That's a fact. And me being that cold person, I 862 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: had to learn how to be that for myself. I 863 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: was telling that to Fat Joe and ship like that. 864 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 3: Everything I was willing to be for my comrade. Yes, 865 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: I had to learn to be that for myself, and 866 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: that's what made me stronger. You see what I'm saying, 867 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 3: because it was like, I'm just leaving myself open by 868 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: doing that for so many others her and leaving myself 869 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: wide open. And now in my position of leading, I 870 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 3: can't leave myself. 871 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: It's a fact because now you got your crew. I 872 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: got a lot, right right, I. 873 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: Got my family, I got my business, I got everything. 874 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 3: So I gotta pay this shiit strategic out here, cause 875 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 3: niggas is quick to want to see you feel. Ain't 876 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: nobody coming to save you. Nobody niggas rather see you 877 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: go through it, to help you get through it. Heard 878 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: like you not have her. So I learned how to 879 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: boss up on my own, like wherever we started at, 880 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: it's not what we're gonna end that. 881 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: That's a fact, bro, That's one thing you said, y'all learned, 882 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: try to boss up on my own, like I commend y'all. Man, 883 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 2: that's one like y'all all of y'all from sting from 884 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: Joel's cam. 885 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: You even Zeke being down there and see laying low. 886 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 2: Y'all all know how to create businesses, bro, like, none 887 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 2: of y'all just sit back and chill. From the wig 888 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: to the clothes, to the dipset rebranding to the compound 889 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: you just fucking purchase. Shoot, I'm saying to the podcast, like, 890 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: what keeps you motivating? 891 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: My gee? 892 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: What what gives you that drive? Because these kids need 893 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: to learn that. You know, these kids is lazy. They 894 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 2: think smoking weed going, it's just gonna hit them one day, 895 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 2: they gonna get high. 896 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna come to you sitting in the house 897 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: and smoking weed. I always wanted something bigger in life. 898 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 3: I just always knew that I could do better, and 899 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 3: I always know I'm not giving myself. I'm not giving 900 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: things my full potential. Even right now, I feel like 901 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: I still a way now. I totally feel like I 902 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: have not found total tunel vision where I'm locked into 903 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: my full capacity of what I can give the people 904 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: and what I can do for my mission and things 905 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 3: like that, because there's so many distractions. But that's what 906 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, And as a man being creative and having 907 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: to take care of responsibilities, it's hard to not get 908 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 3: distracted with responsibilities trying to create and save the world. 909 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: It's like, what I like to call it because I 910 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 3: feel like what I'm adding when I'm finished, it's gonna 911 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: be saved a lot of people from a lot of 912 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 3: different things when I'm finishing shit like that. So you know, 913 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 3: I take it. I take it day by day. But 914 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: as long as I'm willing enable strength for my body 915 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 3: to be consistent every day, I'm not worried about the 916 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 3: motivation because I do believe that I'm here. 917 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: To finish the mission. 918 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: And sometimes I don't even know what the mission is, 919 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: but I know walking in faith is stronger than anything, 920 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: and that's I do believe God gonna point me in 921 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 3: the right direction. So I just try to finish every 922 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: little bit of things. Every small success turned into a 923 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 3: big success. And execution has been a disease for black 924 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 3: men for a long time. So I learned how to 925 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 3: execute every idea that I'm trying to put on the table, 926 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 3: because whether it's worth it or not, you learn from 927 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 3: your mistakes, you know what I mean. 928 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: So I've been through a lot. 929 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 3: It took me along to get where Matt to even 930 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 3: talk like this like I've never been dumb, but I 931 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: have been ignorant in my life. You heard, we all 932 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: have bro one hundred percent. We all have my dream 933 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: grow too, we know. But I'm glad I was here 934 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: to show me that time don't lie. And I was 935 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: glad I was here to understand you won't grow to 936 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: you know. So now that I've grown a lot and 937 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: I still got a lot grown to do. 938 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: This where we at? No, Man, that's a fact. I 939 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: just I just seen the video. 940 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: I see you got the merch on right now too, man, 941 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: Like yo, bro, like looking at you do that? 942 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: Bro? 943 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: It brought me back to a time when Jay was 944 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: fighting with Iceberg. You know, that's why rockawear. I believe, 945 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: in my opinion, I believe that's why Rockaway was birthed 946 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: because Jay went to Iceberg being that he was rocking it, 947 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: rapping about it. 948 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: He's burg slim, you know what I mean. 949 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: They ain't want to give him the deal that he like, 950 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna create something that's gonna crush y'all. 951 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: And he created rockawar So watching you, you know, deal 952 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: with the chrome hert situation like that and then create 953 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: your own clothing line and you're like, all yanin't fuck 954 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: with me. I'm a crush like that. Drive, Bro, you 955 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: can't teach that you can't. It's not learned in school. 956 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 2: It's just in you. And like you a warrior, my nigga, 957 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 2: Like you not a warrior, Bro. 958 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: Can't say that. 959 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: Above everything that I've been called, I'm definitely a warrior. 960 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: You are, Bro. That's in every that's in everything. 961 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: Like I've just got this warrior spirit that I've been 962 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 3: born with. And I kind of refuse to lose. Even 963 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: if I take a lost, You're gonna feel like I 964 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: want you can't beat me. That's a fact that my 965 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 3: mentor is too strong. Man. 966 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: That's why I'm still here. 967 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: And I gotta leave a lot of this ship with 968 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: people because I know I got a lot to leave, 969 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 3: you know. 970 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like a fact I tell people I need to. 971 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 3: I want people to know that I gave more than 972 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 3: I took, taking a lot. 973 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: You definitely put a lot of influence out here, man, 974 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: Like I watch when I like you know the megs 975 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: shit little baby ship half to Atlanta really dip said 976 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: influenced a lot of these young boys moving around right now, 977 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 2: my nigga, and you really played the major part in that. 978 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 2: So I know you got that guy to make you 979 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 2: feel like the big homie to the New Era right now, it. 980 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: Feel it feels good. 981 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: A lot of times I'll be like, damn, I would 982 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 3: have knew that she was gonna be like this, right, 983 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 3: just see this ship now, how this ship going crazy? 984 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this is it is really wild. But 985 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: it was good also then. 986 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: And also let me know, I still got opportunity to 987 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 3: make a lot of money out here, that's right, you know. 988 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: I mean as long as they still doing things like this, 989 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 3: then I know I could jump in. Well, I need 990 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 3: to jump in and get some bags off of this ship, 991 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, create some business off of 992 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 3: this ship. Well, I was gonna say tunnel Tunnel, night 993 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: Busters Busters one dare. Yeah, what's up? 994 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: You remember that night? 995 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: What when the video shoot? 996 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: Not the video shoot when you came and performed that motherfucker? 997 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: Oh of course I remember every night in the tunnel. 998 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: But remind me of something. But wait, wait I might 999 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: be missing So not the video the video was done 1000 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 2: in the tunnel. Yeah, it wasn't done on night. 1001 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no it was. But I'm trying to 1002 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: give people a little recap of what it felt like 1003 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 3: when Rockefeller had the tunnel on. Yo, bro, Like because 1004 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 3: the niggas don't know how crazy the tunnel was. I 1005 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,919 Speaker 3: don't care what club your big in New York City. 1006 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: You've never been to no club like that to me. 1007 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: I love of Ho Ho, my bro. I love that nigga. 1008 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: I would never go again. 1009 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 3: Some but whole. 1010 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: It ain't fucking with mine right in the tunnel. That's 1011 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: just being honest. 1012 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 3: I can't fuck with that. Can do a lot, but can't. 1013 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 1: We can't fuck with mine righting. 1014 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: Further of all, Rockefeller used to be the tunnel that 1015 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 3: ships to sell out by like nine o'clock, nine thirty. 1016 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: We shouldn't even get in, you couldn't word out. 1017 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: And then after that and he started getting You had 1018 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 3: to really know them niggas that you had to know 1019 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 3: Mark had the security, and you had to know Peter 1020 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 3: like the tunnel was just a whole number when Rockefeller 1021 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 3: was there, when Jay was coming to form. 1022 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: It was bad. 1023 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: No, it was bad. 1024 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 2: That's because the whole Brooklyn bro bad, bro whole Brooklyn email. 1025 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 3: In the city, model lest little scammer drug dealer, Nicks 1026 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: was mine of town. 1027 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: It was roll. Those are some of the best nights 1028 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: we had when in the world your. 1029 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: Niggas performed at the tunnel your death turn, it was it. 1030 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: There was a few niggas that came to the tunnel, 1031 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 3: used to put on rue, used to go crazy to 1032 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 3: yeah Joe, it wasn't. 1033 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing like nothing like the rock only people. 1034 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: I think that, man, this niggas thump in the tunnel 1035 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: ship storm breaking in that bitch, what yo, you ain't 1036 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: like no bro like you boly niggas. I think I 1037 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 2: had the tunnel more turn than us, and I gotta 1038 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 2: give it to them. 1039 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: When Snoop and Doctor Drag came to this. 1040 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 3: Bitch, was you there that day? I couldn't even get 1041 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: in my nigga, I was in there, I couldn't get it. 1042 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 3: That's how the fact it was burg sweaterd on Flintstone ship. Yo. 1043 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 3: I took it from Kim. I never forget it, like, 1044 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: oh yeah he's dead on this. I'm putting this on 1045 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 3: for the tunnel to night. I was burning the fact. 1046 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 3: So they went in there for two and a half hours. 1047 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 3: And when crazy Snoop was going so crazy right during 1048 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: the show, all the bloods was in the front, they 1049 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: start throwing all the red rags at them on the show, 1050 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 3: like yo, no disrespect I'm just trying to show love, 1051 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 3: but the Bloods was showing love. We grew up on 1052 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 3: all of these, yo, bro. 1053 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: They burnt that ship down so bad, but that was 1054 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: just one time. 1055 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: So y'all you came in there a few times and 1056 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 3: went crazy, not definitely, but snooping them. 1057 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the most they got. 1058 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 3: They got one of the most legendary knights ever I've 1059 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 3: seen in the Tunnel perform because I seen I seen, 1060 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 3: I seen Jay at the Apollo too. Yeah, yo, yo, 1061 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: the Apollo used to be I always want to ask 1062 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 3: him this. He came on to Pollow with one color 1063 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 3: jersey on. But this mad Bloods in there, mad mad Bloods, 1064 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: mad Bloods. I'm blooded ya. He started to show with 1065 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 3: one jersey. I can't forget what jersey. When they came 1066 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 3: back out with the all red San Francisco jersey, I 1067 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 3: think that way, bro, I'm talking about the homies went crazy, 1068 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 3: came back I think had it so ship with the 1069 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 3: blue jersey. Your nigga was not jacking that it was. 1070 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: He came back out with the red jersey on in Apollow. 1071 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 3: That ship went dumb, bro. 1072 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 2: No, the Tunnel used to be stupid, used to be 1073 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 2: stupid Speed used to be stupid. Speed was the tunnel 1074 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 2: for the new for our era, Like so so. 1075 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 3: Listen when me and when me and Gutter was beefing 1076 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 3: and seizing them was beefing and ship like mm hmm 1077 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 3: going crazy. One day they caught me slipping out there. 1078 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 3: I'm in front of Speed. It's like four of us, 1079 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 3: five of us. 1080 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: It's chilling. And the nigga what's his name of the owner? 1081 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: I forgot the security name told me that you know, yo, 1082 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: bro season them coming here tonight, bro, while why why 1083 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 3: why are you doing this? Like Joe, like, what do 1084 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 3: you mean? Man? They pop up with like sixty niggas 1085 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 3: bro chill, Yeah, my hearth were here allegedly allegedly you 1086 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 3: know this, how this should be like gunshots gonna don't 1087 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 3: bust the move out there. Oh yeah, these crip niggas 1088 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: got us out number, let's get the funk out of his. 1089 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 3: Speed was different. 1090 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: Speed was different, man, that was his spot. DJ word Yeah, 1091 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: bas and and and and and and. 1092 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 3: And mister c nigga, Yeah, mister c ran Speed and 1093 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 3: the tunnel. Mister c was Everybobby Trends Trans young to see, 1094 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: Bobby trans was young tunnel. Young. You heard everybody we're 1095 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 3: going to go allegedly Nigga allegedly going in the tunnel, 1096 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 3: two boxes of a Dutch Master. 1097 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: Crazy and some type of pre roll. Your dutchess, bro, 1098 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: this you're not listening, yo. Sometimes you had the pre 1099 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: roll listening. 1100 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 3: We passed that, bro, you're not listening, bro, I got 1101 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 3: everything under control in the trunk. You got it like 1102 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 3: this is under control everything but not touch me and 1103 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: we're not. We only had it under control when we 1104 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 3: had the show before that. He was on some bullship. 1105 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: All right, So this is the difference the outside. I 1106 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 3: said it like that you're a star. No, no, not. 1107 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,959 Speaker 3: That was literally banging in this ship. You heard yeah 1108 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 3: this before rap. I had to I had to be 1109 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 3: heard dogs. I had to be with Trey and b 1110 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 3: I and them for that, not me. They was like, bleak, 1111 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 3: who you in? But Gang used to beat your bro. 1112 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 3: I used to Oh yeah, Gang Unit was serious in 1113 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 3: New York. The tunnel so bad, bro, yo. Peter Geison 1114 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 3: used to call me to this office during heat like, yo, bro, 1115 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 3: please give that. Nigga made so much money? Oh my god, 1116 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 3: you didn't even make money, mindy, nigga. He take the 1117 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 3: fuck off, Peter gay ship. I want to make a 1118 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 3: for real I was. I was two seconds from doing 1119 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 3: the Belly movie with that bitch because they start getting 1120 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: too comfortable with me. I was like, Yo, I was 1121 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: gonna act, bro, your niggas ship might sound like a movie, 1122 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 3: but I really was dumb and you heard I was 1123 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 3: about to pull a belly the real Belly movie on 1124 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 3: the tunnel was soft too, just the sh his security 1125 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 3: was kind of soft to your Like, Yo, I'm a 1126 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm a buck sixty at this time going up to 1127 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 3: grown men that's two forty, Like, I wish you would, nigga, 1128 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 3: raise your hand and raise the eyebrow. Nigga, if I'm 1129 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 3: lying on flying. I asked any bounce of the tunnel 1130 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 3: if they ever, ever, ever, ever made a mistake and 1131 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 3: raise their hand to me, and we just talking and 1132 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 3: shit like that. I'm just telling you what type of 1133 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: minutes I was when I was a baby bop and 1134 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 3: you acts around. 1135 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: You had to be outside of the velvet road. 1136 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 3: This is twenty five, nigga. I was about from my 1137 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 3: first time I went to the tunnel was in nineteen 1138 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 3: ninety four. Nigga, I had to be at school in 1139 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 3: I went to school on Monday and was looking at 1140 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 3: my teacher like she was a joke. 1141 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: I just left the Tunnel last night. 1142 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 3: Seen Mike Tyson Easy eat all type of shit bitches. 1143 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: You oh yeah, easy and do yeah. The Tunnel had 1144 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: bro niggas don't even go to clubs like that. No, 1145 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: bro niggas don't even from nineteen ninety four to ninety 1146 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: nine when it closed. 1147 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 3: Nigga when it killed baby Boy Killer from Brooklyn, he 1148 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 3: was seventeen. Charles Jones, little cousin. 1149 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: That was my little bike, This pride crazy nigga, Like, 1150 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: for real, that's crazy, y'all. I was gonna ask you 1151 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 2: talking about you was gonna do a movie on the Tunnel. 1152 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: You was the first, y'all launched the love and hip 1153 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 2: hop platform, right and then it was a little spew 1154 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 2: on creativity and all that. I always wondered why you 1155 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: just didn't never start your own franchise for New York 1156 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: because you had it. 1157 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: You had it. 1158 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 3: It was a it was a few variables, contractual, contractually leaving, 1159 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't do no more hip hop chows. For time 1160 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 3: with me and Chrissy was that we didn't feel like 1161 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: compromising compromising our dignity saga doing the show. Yes, remember 1162 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 3: this is very in the very beginning. 1163 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: And yes, I'm saying a lot of. 1164 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 3: The people that were supposed to be on outside doing 1165 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 3: business end up taking the other side of doing business 1166 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 3: with the networks. So now they're against us instead of 1167 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 3: helping us and showing us how to do it. 1168 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: And then some personal ship came. 1169 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 3: Involved, scuffed niggas's get scuffed up and ship like that? 1170 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: What's up? 1171 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 3: Ship like that? It just was a lot, bro And 1172 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 3: then well was that in life? It was like, I 1173 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 3: ain't got time for this. 1174 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: I got to do. I'm a hustler, I need to 1175 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: get to a bag. 1176 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be fighting with no networks and ship 1177 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 3: because somebody ended up going to end up getting hurt 1178 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 3: hurt as it almost happened a few times. Ain't nobody 1179 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 3: gonna get in trouble but myself. That's right? Because what 1180 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 3: made me ask you that? 1181 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 2: Because y'all was in the network that wait, three shows 1182 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 2: there before. 1183 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: Fifty even started his doing his shows. How the network works? 1184 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 3: We had three shows that each one of our shows 1185 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 3: that we did did was successful, more successful than the 1186 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 3: Love of Hip Hop shows. But because they had so 1187 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 3: much invested interest in Loving Hell. I did the show 1188 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 3: after Yeah, keep giving us new episodes in our show 1189 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: because our ratings were taking away from all the money 1190 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: that they nested into love and hip hop at the time. 1191 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 3: They had a few seasons in at the time that time, 1192 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 3: we put up show We're hitting Game Hitting for. 1193 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and we had a lot. 1194 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 3: We did a lot of ship on that, a lot 1195 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: of money off that ship. So it's like, but it 1196 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 3: was a good it was a good learning lesson at 1197 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 3: that time. 1198 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 2: How is that TV ship? Because you know, they called me, 1199 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 2: they hit me. They was like, Yoli, would you ever 1200 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 2: do it? And I'm like, I would have said, I 1201 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 2: told I would. 1202 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: I would definitely not say it for somebody like you 1203 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 3: because I told my wife, I gotta have a fake wife. 1204 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,959 Speaker 3: But it also depends on what type of bag they're 1205 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 3: gonna throw, Like, yo, I didn't I didn't make half 1206 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 3: a million dollars to go for four days, damn herd 1207 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: to do type of ship as baby girl, like they 1208 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 3: start throwing stupid, stupid numbers and that type of ship 1209 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 3: is like, okay, I can't turn that down. I pull up, 1210 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 3: but you want me to throw a drink in the club. 1211 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 3: I got you to figure out your lane, but I 1212 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 3: never let them niggas dictate what I was. 1213 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: That was a lot of things that now you. 1214 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 3: Camera because it's pre medicated situations they're doing. 1215 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 2: I can honestly say, out of every couple with rapper 1216 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: that been on the show, you definitely ain't doing. 1217 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 3: No because we set the rule like everyone. I showed 1218 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 3: that because I've seen a lot of niggas do some. 1219 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 3: It wasn't nobody else show. That's wireless my show. That's 1220 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: why the rules of my show. That's why I was like, yo, 1221 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 3: why they didn't just start then took my show and 1222 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 3: implemented her rules to exploiting people and all that type 1223 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 3: of show. That was our show. Our show was built 1224 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 3: on real premise. Yeah, we sell dysfunction, so you're gonna 1225 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 3: see a lot of dysfunctions rappers and this is what 1226 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: we do. We get into everything perfect like nothing. We're 1227 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 3: doing what we want to do and this but now 1228 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: looking back, like it's way easier for me to tap 1229 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: in the market now than it was back then. Do 1230 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 3: the ship on my own, that's right, and make the 1231 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 3: networks come knock down my door. What because these people 1232 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 3: money watches the same way was watching before. As soon 1233 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: as we put up oh, whatever show coming out, They're 1234 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 3: gonna go to YouTube and click on. 1235 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: Yo. 1236 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 3: I used to TV is not important as the internet. 1237 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 3: Right now, you heard all the shows is made. That's 1238 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 3: a fact I used to think was trying to set 1239 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 3: me up. Shout out Noorri too, man, he saw the 1240 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 3: long Yeah. 1241 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 2: No recalled me about love and hip hop first, and 1242 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, and no, I ain't with that. 1243 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 3: Then no, recall me about marriage boot camp. That's what 1244 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I ain't gon y'all. I zapped out of 1245 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 3: the ship on that a little bit. But that was 1246 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 3: a stupid check. You should have took that, chick. I mean, 1247 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what there was off you, but I 1248 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 3: never even got to that part, like do you want 1249 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 3: to talk? And I'm like, now, because my wife thing 1250 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 3: with that ship, I gotta get a fake wife for TV. 1251 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 3: She not gonna see. That's another thing you gotta have 1252 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 3: the willing partner to get. Yeah, but it's so smooth 1253 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 3: that if you was to go in there be smooth, 1254 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 3: expect nothing from you. It made me start watching the 1255 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: show and living in this show. But yeah, I didn't 1256 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 3: say this. It was cool. It was cool. It's just 1257 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 3: that ship is wired up all the time and all 1258 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 3: the time, no privacyne nothing. And then you got the 1259 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 3: chance of you definitely on what other grown men? It's like, 1260 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 3: you know me, but I'm thinking I have to chip 1261 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 3: somebody out. That's what I want to go nowhere. 1262 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: No grown man, you heard you know this nigga was 1263 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: outside of chip somebody. 1264 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 3: As soon as I get there, I'm wanna. I'm on 1265 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 3: to bench and doing pull ups, like, yeah, we're gonna 1266 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna start this ship up right, Yo? 1267 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, what made you get into the I 1268 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: got it? 1269 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 3: Yo? 1270 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 2: You had camp and may know at the workout boot camp, 1271 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 2: niggas are struggling. 1272 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna right you. 1273 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 2: You have fab, Yeah, you have fab and may you 1274 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 2: know at the work out can't ship together. I gotta 1275 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: come join the camp, man, I gotta get a couple 1276 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: of sessions in. 1277 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 3: You ain't man, you ain't kiss on some bullshit piss 1278 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 3: doing pretty good. I'm probably kissing. I've been seeing heard 1279 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 3: in the fitness game and ship like that. That's that's 1280 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 3: that's great for them and ship like that. You know 1281 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 3: what I mean, like we're getting older, so that's a fast. 1282 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 3: Best way to this found the youth is through fitness 1283 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 3: and ship like that movement is medicine. 1284 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: But I've been on this as a teenager and ship 1285 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: like that. 1286 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 3: All the niggas used to come home, so's how to 1287 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 3: do pull ups and all that type of ship. Then 1288 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 3: when I got when I got with Chrissy and ship 1289 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 3: like that, that was she doubled down, like, bro, you 1290 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 3: like a buck sixty bucks, seventy what got to get 1291 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 3: your ship? Get your ship up so fast? These felts 1292 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 3: used to put that work. She was very, very important. 1293 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 3: And getting of my workouts is in the past thirty 1294 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 3: years now, I'm. 1295 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: You ever thought about starting like your own workout? Fuck ship, 1296 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 2: Billy blinks. Nobody did it bigger than him. 1297 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 3: Ship. Well, I've been using the platform of I GS 1298 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 3: for those few years. But I got a it's a 1299 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 3: whole block full of storefronts and it's one of the storefronts, 1300 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 3: got a nice square footage. 1301 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually putting a whole gym in and things. 1302 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been speaking of the grunk fitness to try 1303 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 3: to do a partner with them and things like that. 1304 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: But I'm putting the gym in there. 1305 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 3: Then in the gym will start shooting fitness shows and 1306 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 3: then it'll. 1307 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 2: Be a home for you know what I mean, My nigga, 1308 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 2: you need to talk to Peloton everybody, bro. Your workout 1309 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,439 Speaker 2: regimen is insaney. I'll be watching you. I follow you. You 1310 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 2: know that I'll be white. 1311 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 3: Nigga be doing pull ups with the one hundred and 1312 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 3: fifty pounds drum on like but you know how go. 1313 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: So that's another that's the flip side. So it's all 1314 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: about the supporter. 1315 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 3: That's right. Game is one one person to see that 1316 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: and make one call and get everything connected. Now that's 1317 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 3: the fact that one person that don't understand that, don't 1318 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 3: figure'll find a way that they can be in business 1319 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 3: from a situation. 1320 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: You never gonna get that one. 1321 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 3: So I'm just dialing in doing everything myself because I 1322 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 3: know how to make a success out of something, and 1323 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to come and give us a check anyway. 1324 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Nah, That's what I'm fact man. 1325 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: And one thing I want to say, like every artist's 1326 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 2: been through a bunch of bullshit in this game. Every artist, 1327 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 2: you know, we always dug and talking our bullshit. But 1328 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 2: you know what I respect the most when I see 1329 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 2: artists because me, I'm all about growth. If you stay 1330 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: the same, I feel like that's the definition of insane. 1331 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 2: To do the same thing over and over and over 1332 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: and inspect different results, you're technically insane. 1333 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 3: So when I seen you and French was. 1334 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Able to bury y'all bullshit and get back cool, make 1335 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: money together and move around, do shit, I really looked 1336 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 2: at you and I was like, Nah, that nigga gym 1337 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 2: is for real, nigga, he take this business shit serious. 1338 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: So like things like that. 1339 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Bro, just know you inspire a lot of people out 1340 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: here to move. You know, I see the shit people say, 1341 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Yo Jim, he's still young. He want to be the kid, 1342 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 2: he want to be out here. But they don't talk 1343 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 2: about that ship like that. You know what I mean, 1344 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 2: what's wrong with being young? No, y'all want to be 1345 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 2: young forever? 1346 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 3: What's wrong? And in the me most people that say 1347 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 3: things about that, the people that got no emotions and 1348 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 3: as old as I am. 1349 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Out the loose and in the crib, they playing call 1350 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: of duty right now. 1351 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, don't mean outside we got 1352 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 3: emotionally getting money he did. 1353 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: It ain't about the ages, about the wages, about rightness. 1354 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: You killed that. That's a ball, nigga say. It ain't 1355 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: about an age, it's about a wage step. Your wages 1356 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 2: up because your age going up every year. 1357 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 3: So what you're gonna do with that? 1358 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 1359 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 3: He's trying to live longer, eat better, doing all the 1360 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 3: things you have, man, you know what I mean? What 1361 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: about let's talk about Biggs. 1362 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Biggs. 1363 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 3: Oh, let's gold man. 1364 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: I still want to know what happened between him and Daname. 1365 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 2: I gotta have Bigs on rock solid. I don't know 1366 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 2: about that, but people don't know. 1367 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 3: I feel like people don't talk about how much of 1368 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,959 Speaker 3: a goat Biggs is because he's so solid with goat, 1369 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 1370 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: Like Biggs is the quiet assassin who got all the 1371 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 2: pinpoint ideas. When he tell you something, you better fucking 1372 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: better listen that he calculated every angle like the professional, 1373 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 2: no women, no kids. 1374 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 3: He's like the accounting bro. Well, he's so calculating everything 1375 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 3: you do. But the biggest, one of the few people 1376 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 3: that I considered to be a big brother and somebody 1377 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 3: that I admire from his position in the game and 1378 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 3: remaining humble and not letting the spot like Jadaen and 1379 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,959 Speaker 3: doing what his job was to do. And no matter 1380 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 3: how important he was in that Rockefeller. 1381 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 2: He never character bro like he never wanted to be 1382 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 2: in front of the camera. No matter how much money 1383 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 2: he got, he never wanted this. 1384 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 3: People don't understand, like it's a trifected bro. It really 1385 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: was Ja and bigs that made He's like the silent 1386 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 3: partner and ship like that. 1387 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, right. 1388 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: His presence was felt, but you never heard his voice. 1389 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: I don't think nobody ever heard big Spell speak. You 1390 01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: get a lot of people. 1391 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 3: You got to know them to have a conversation, and 1392 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: that was even back then. That's the fact, yo, But 1393 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 3: now it was even if you you definitely not speaking 1394 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: to him. Now got two stories about bigs Man, like 1395 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm married now. 1396 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: So as a kid, I used to feel. 1397 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 3: Like I gotta pay this nigga back, like I owe you, nigga. 1398 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,919 Speaker 3: You violated were we was on the road, jim Man, 1399 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 3: Like remember as a kid coming from I'm talking about 1400 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: the kissing in the hallway era before you could get right, 1401 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 3: you kissing for hours, the way you need something to 1402 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 3: drink when you've done. My nigga, that kissing. You know 1403 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 1404 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 2: And then they take me from that to the road. 1405 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: So I wasn't ready. So Niggas is like, yo, you 1406 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 2: gotta get your shit up. These girls just ready to 1407 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: get right. Are you out here playing? Go get you something? 1408 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, let me go get me 1409 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: some I go line something up. She like, where you 1410 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 2: staying at? I'm gonna ride back with you. 1411 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 3: I'm hype. Now like, oh oh, I got one fishing line. 1412 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 3: We caught one baby first og. Now mind you, I'm 1413 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 3: the young nigger on the road. We was in New Orleans, 1414 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: somewhere I've never been there before. The first o g 1415 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 3: I see is bigs, So I go tell him they're bigs. 1416 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 3: What hotel we staying at? Thinking like, we're staying at 1417 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 3: this hotel? Why you want to know what hotel we 1418 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 3: staying at? I was like, yo, is it room in 1419 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 3: the car? He like, wait, why are you asking me 1420 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 3: all these questions? I'm like, cause I got something lined up? 1421 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 3: She ready to go. Now, mind you, I'm the young 1422 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 3: boy in the twenty one and up club, so everything 1423 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 3: is older than me. 1424 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 2: So he like, let me see what you got. Make 1425 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 2: sure you ain't got nothing wrong. So I go show 1426 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: him as a lemon head. 1427 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this one, and he took. 1428 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 3: Us damn. 1429 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 2: The what and left h Yo my g yo, yo 1430 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 2: yo that. But he I always felt like, I'm gonna 1431 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 2: get this nigga back. 1432 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 3: I'm lit now, I'm Blizzowie on the road. They don't 1433 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 3: know him. I'm gonna take one of his joints. I 1434 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 3: never got the opportunity, but he repaid me back, my nigga, 1435 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,919 Speaker 3: no big word. 1436 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Biggs made me. 1437 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 3: Back because one day I'm in the crib chilling doing nothing, 1438 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 3: bro like I'm in jurors. I don't even know what 1439 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 3: the fuck I was doing, and that ain't Coela called 1440 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 3: me out of nowhere, like, yo, what you know, I'm 1441 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 3: not even doing shit like Yo, come to the crib 1442 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 3: and jurors. This when they lived in the Palisades, and 1443 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I pull up to the crib. 1444 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,479 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm like, these niggas getting too much money. 1445 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 3: This crib is insane. I need a crib like this. 1446 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 3: I see the rain drove outside or whatever. I had 1447 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 3: the tie hole at that time, and he was like, yo, 1448 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 3: I just bought this rain drover. 1449 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 2: But they delivered to me in champagne. I don't even 1450 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 2: want this shit, bleak, you can have it. And I'm like, what, 1451 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 2: you just gonna give me the He like, yeah, man, 1452 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't want this shit. They gave me the row color. 1453 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna order the one in white next week. I'm like, oh, 1454 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 2: you could keep the bitch. I don't want the bitch back. 1455 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 2: I'll take the rage. 1456 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 3: Keep her hang up, like I leave the towehold here, 1457 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 3: I come back later. Bro, that's the type of money 1458 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: it was a getting. Like one of them gave Beans 1459 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 3: the brown Bentley and ship that was big. 1460 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: Both of them, Dame and Biggs gave Beans the bench. 1461 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 3: This was amazing, amazing, amazing back in the day, Bro, Yo, 1462 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 3: you know what's crazy. 1463 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 2: I would tell you a funny story, man. I think 1464 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 2: I think it was just Bigs who told me this. 1465 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Know why he got rid of his bit while he 1466 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,439 Speaker 2: was like, Yo, I don't want this ship no more 1467 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: because when you drop it off to get repaired, they 1468 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 2: don't give you a loaner car. 1469 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: So he's like, I don't want this ship. 1470 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 3: That's how much money you ridiculous ridiculous ship. Yo. 1471 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I used to look at the niggas like what. 1472 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 3: Bro, Bro, I remember the nigga dame dropped the egg 1473 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 3: on his house floor and I'll wash this drop of 1474 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 3: egg and we're gonna go and watch the movie and 1475 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 3: we come back and it's gonna be cleaned up. Bro 1476 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 3: yo Yo Yo, he was on some ship. They had 1477 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 3: the chef baseline. I want to tell people about his story, yo, 1478 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 3: where you saved my ass? Your baseline baseline over guts game, yo. 1479 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 1: People don't know. 1480 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Right when you walk in the casino and you play 1481 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 2: the car three, the game three called poker. We played 1482 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 2: that in the studio and it was called guts and 1483 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 2: it was nasty. And the definition of this game it's 1484 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: everybody will be me jim wan whole, big dog, big dog. 1485 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 3: World up everything. Yo. 1486 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 2: So the potters start off five thousand dollars. Now, mind 1487 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 2: you you got five six people playing. Only one person 1488 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 2: could win the pot. So imagine if four of y'all 1489 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: called guts. Remember, only one person win. So the three 1490 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 2: losers have to match the pot. So if the pot 1491 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: was five thousand, now we gotta put fifteen thousand. And 1492 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: that's how it kept going up. Kep going up, kept 1493 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 2: going and Hole used to do some bullshit, bullshit. 1494 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 3: It just called like he's said in the round, I'm 1495 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 3: calling guts every time. 1496 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: They didn't even look at the cards. 1497 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 3: Guts. But sometimes it'd be real because then I'm telling 1498 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 3: you the story. I'll never forget that we're in there, bro, 1499 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm telling you it was happened three times in a row. 1500 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 3: We ended. I got two kings, I say, guts, yep, 1501 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 3: j got two aces, right cool? I believe the grand 1502 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 3: was like three grand, right, went up. I had to 1503 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 3: put the three grand back. Got the cards again. It 1504 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 3: was the same thing. I got two kings. 1505 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: And you're not throwing two kings in. I don't care 1506 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: who you are. 1507 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 3: Jay got two aces again, my nigga, Now that ship 1508 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 3: is double. I gotta put in like nine train, a tank, whatever. 1509 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I had to put in the deal the cars again. 1510 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 3: I got two aces. I'm pop, now pop. I ain't 1511 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 3: got no money in my pocket. All I'm done for. 1512 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 1: I got two eggs. I lean over my should. 1513 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: Joe, you got your pocket, You're like, yeah, hold me down. 1514 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 3: I go home and get you. I get some money. 1515 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 3: This the nickson I got you. I said, guts. I 1516 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 3: set them here. I got min as a random funk 1517 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 3: out of there. Playing with them life was like, yo, 1518 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 3: fuck that good looking bleak world up. Yeah, bro, but 1519 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 3: them guts games is what's serious and the life on 1520 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 3: them gutsm show. Bro. Remember we used to play fucking 1521 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 3: selo on the pool table too, everything losing stupid money. 1522 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 3: Think so I don't know, and it's another talk about 1523 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 3: jay and now. But he got and that based on that. 1524 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 3: Nigga couldn't lose your bro. I went in there one day. 1525 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 1: It is just me and him. We end up playing pool. 1526 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no pool pool. Look, he'm not knowing how 1527 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: to play pool. 1528 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,879 Speaker 3: Spanking Look crack boom going. I had all the balls 1529 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 3: in no hormemone. We grown. That's it don't matter if 1530 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 3: you're grown this nigga, nigga, get you out of line, yo. 1531 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 3: I had all the rocks. Yeah, and I had one 1532 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 3: one from the table. 1533 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: What you think he do? 1534 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 3: Came back and ran the table, ran the table, ran 1535 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 3: the table. I will you know for me, that's a victory, y'all. Yeah, 1536 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 3: it's even about. 1537 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: Rap about that's right. 1538 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 3: That's the bigger yo. Bro. 1539 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 2: Him and one I ain't gonna lie, probably the best 1540 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 2: pool players. I played the gains because they let you 1541 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,719 Speaker 2: rep and. 1542 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 3: They tell you miss game over. 1543 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 2: Just just grabbed them rack. No, I'm doing baseline yep, 1544 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 2: yelling with my halem. 1545 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Shit, O me, you missed once. 1546 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 2: Just grabbed the rack between Jay and one's crazy with that. 1547 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,640 Speaker 2: But as far as like, I remember one time gambling 1548 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 2: with Hove and he know this is facts. He don't 1549 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 2: want no smoke with me. Se loo we in baseline 1550 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,839 Speaker 2: one day gambling bro, and you know Jay, he's shooting 1551 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,719 Speaker 2: the bank every time. Five thousand shoot it, six ten thousand, 1552 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:45,839 Speaker 2: shoot it, six twenty thousand, shoot it, six forty thousand shooting, 1553 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 2: six eighty thousand shooting. 1554 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 3: Bro. 1555 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: It went up to a buck sixty. All my kids, 1556 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: that nigga, y know, he never touched the dice. 1557 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 2: That nigga looked at me. It was like, bleek, I'm 1558 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 2: gonna go get this money for you, but I'm never 1559 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 2: fucking gambling against you again. I don't know who the 1560 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 2: fuck you are. 1561 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Your word. 1562 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 2: It took about a buck sixty from Hove and I 1563 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 2: gave him the bread back only took twenty grand. It 1564 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 2: was I could never take that from you. Looked out 1565 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 2: for the guard. He was like, yeah, that's why I 1566 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 2: love you, my little bro. How you feel about your 1567 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1568 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and 1569 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 2: you could follow me on any social media platform under 1570 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: the name Memphis Bleach. 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