1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Jedge. 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to Twat's Flashback Today. I have a 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: special guest, Kamil Meyer, and she's coming back on to 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: tell us all the details about her life. So, first 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: of all, what have you been up to? 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: God, I just got back from Nava. I had a 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: wonderful trip with my husband and some friends, my girlfriend 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Rose who's been on the show with me, and that 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: was fantastic. What have I been up to? Both of 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: my kids are off to college. They're in Emerson College. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: They Mason is twenty two years old and Judas nineteen 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: and it's Mason's senior year she will be graduating this 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: spring and Jude's freshman year. So I'm thrill that they 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: are in school together. I think it's positive that you're 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: in college. Yeah, it's gonna go or not. But no, 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: he's loving it. He's having a great time. And they're 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: both involved with performances. They're doing a sketch comedy show. 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: They're involved with the comedy troupe and they write their 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: own sketches and they perform and then they also compete 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: with other colleges. 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: So Wow, so they're following in mom and Dad's footsteps. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll see. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Yah. 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: You know Kills. You're very, very talented. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: Not so much myself, but yeah you are. You can 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: you say, used to write for shure It? Do you 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: still do that? 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: Not much anymore. I'm dyslexic. It's tight. It's a struggle 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: for me. But if I have people to write with, 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: it's good to bounce ideas off of and collaborate with 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: other people. And I've enjoyed that process in terms of 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: development for television. That was like a whole lifetime ago. 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Well the lifetime for me. 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: What you do like to do is write on Twitter 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: or x or whatever. You're very vocal, which I love. 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: You know, I love my Housewife's messy. 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Now. 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, there was a little disk 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: to d eat. I don't know if you guys are friends, 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: are not friends? You're not friends. I wouldn't imagine overplayed 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: and boring and thirsty. 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: Well what did I say? First? I do you think 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: she's boring? I finally am seeing this season because I 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: watched the show. Now then I'm not on it because 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: actually I had a hard time watching myself just a 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: side note thing, But I like, I do enjoy watching 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: the show. 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: I think you have to be a true narcissist to 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: sit there and love watching yourself, don't you think? Like, Yeah, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, Nope, don't want to see it. I know 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm an asshole. I don't want to see it. 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like the way I sound. I don't 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: like the way I look. I don't like the things 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: I say. I embarrass myself all the time, and I'm 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: very cringe. So I can't want it. 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: It must be Bee, it must be I'm the same way, 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: and it must be because we share a birthday. Yeah, 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: September second, tever second, I'm sure I'm older than you, 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: but nomber second. 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: I think so, I think we're the same age. Sixty seven, Yeah, 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 3: oh I'm going to sixty eight. I mean you're younger. 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're younger. Yeah. So you said she was overplayed 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: and boring and thirsty. Do you think that the cast 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: cast needs a change up? Or is this taken out 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: of context? 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: Is there? I think that's taken out of context. I 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: said that the whole Bravo put out a tweet about 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: the wind chime, and I think that joke itself was 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: just Okay, we've melted enough. Okay, let's move. 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: On a little overplayed, Yeah. 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: It's overplayed. And that was my point, just you know, 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: as an next producer. Yeah, you know, if I see things, 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, enough, let's move on from that. And 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: that was my It wasn't so much hurt. It was 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: that joke was, Okay, why are you gonna milk this 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: to death? 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna malk it to death. Well, she actually brought 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: the wind chimes to Bravo Kahn, so we're still seeing 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: the wind I'm sure it wasn't her idea it. 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's the most iconic things she's ever done. 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: I out you and I have done, what we've said, 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: some outrageous things. 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: You know, she does have iconic outfits. Iconic outfits. 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, her clothing is, her wardrobe is fantastic. 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: There's no question her wardrobe is a cast member in itself. 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you can't just have a wardrobe, 87 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: you know, you want to bring your personality. And she 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: is adorable. When I started tomat Dory, she came to 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: my house to film and that was just a guest 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: that season or just uh yeah, a guest that season, 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: and she was very upset how the girls were cheating her, 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: and I could relate to her. It felt bad for us, 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: Like she's relatable. I understand what she's going through. She 94 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: feels like the outsider. She felt that because she was 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: friends with Lisaid Vanda Pump that the girls were because 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: the girls were mad at LVP, that she felt that 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: they were taking it out on her, And she was 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: explaining this to me and Erica says, we're sitting in 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: my kitchen in the house. So that was my initial reaction, 100 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: like I can relate to her what she's going through, 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: what her feeling is her first season fish out of water, 102 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: you know, and she didn't have a glam team then, 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: and she was, you know, into fashion, but it wasn't 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: to the level that she brought it to the next season. 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: In the next season, and my own personal opinion is 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: that she was watching Erica and saying, oh my god, Okay, 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to trail off of her. I like that 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: she's her whole. 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Glam She's a hard one to follow. 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a hard one to follow. And from what 111 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: my experience in being around them and seeing it that 112 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: you know, Dorry felt that she had to bump it 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: up a bit, and she hired a whole glam squad, 114 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, she's in these amazing outfits. 115 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: But again, very different from her first season. 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: So different from when we started way back when I 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: even think we wore eyelashes. 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: I didn't have a stylist thing. No, I mean, do 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: you remember when the producers would be in our houses 120 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 3: and go through the closet to see what sh shirt 121 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: they would pick out our offices. 122 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Do our interviews in our living room, Like, yeah, it 123 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: was a different world back then. Now, back then, you 124 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: you had a pretty rough first season, correct with backlash 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: and it was hell. 126 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: It was it was awful. It was the season from Hell. Yeah. 127 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: Andy brought it up at the at the reunion to 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: you a little bit of a harsh way. 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: I I'm moving forward, but I'm like, whoa Like, I 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: don't think that we talk like that anymore, thank God. 131 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm going through this horrible divorce. My 132 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 3: lawyers are on me all the time, and he wanted 133 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: the kids, and I'm going through all this and I 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: have to sit there and be, you know, exposed to 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: that kind of rude of vitriol coming from him. 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: It was just how did you cope with it? At times? 137 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: Because it got pretty bad. I mean, I've been there, sister, 138 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: I know exactly what it feels like. And you know, 139 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: sometimes it's easy to just ignore and other times it's 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of hard when you're going through a lot, 141 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: especially like a divorce, public divorce. 142 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was best not to expose too 143 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: much in the very beginning when I was first, when 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: it was first happening, I thought, you know this, I 145 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: really don't want to play this out, But how could 146 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: you not? Because the cameras are rolling pretty much, you know, 147 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: when you're full time a lot of that, and it's 148 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: hard to just keep that inside without, you know. I mean, 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm losing weight, I'm sick, i have broadkitis, I'm not 150 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: acting like myself. I'm an emotional train wreck basically, and 151 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to deal with that my family, keeping my 152 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: kids kind of in a safe place emotionally and protected 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: from all the outside noise and chatter, and try to 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: cope with the onslought of negativity that I got from 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: the housewives, not all of them, but most of them. 156 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Andy and then everybody out there and you know the 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Bravo sphere. 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: Do you think you kind of got you got a 159 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: bad rap because you were going through so much at 160 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: that time with Kelsey and you didn't really want to 161 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: nobody really knew, So maybe you were popping off ours. 162 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: That's just your personality like to pop up. 163 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: I can be feisty, there's no question about that. I 164 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: think it's a combination of all of it. And I 165 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: think they like the fact that I, you know, I 166 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: speak my mind, and that's why I was probably highed. 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: Douglas Ros said, can you all your diarrhea of the mouth? 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 3: And Okay, that's why I'm here right. 169 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: I would like to see you back on Beverly Hills 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: because I feel like they could use somebody like that. 171 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: Was that something you see? Yeah, I think they need 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: somebody like that. 173 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. After season nine, I you know, season nine, 174 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be asked BacT full time, 175 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: and I was told that, and then there was a distance. 176 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: There was a time between there that I didn't hear 177 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: much from production. You know, right before the reunion. None 178 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: stop the phone calls, and when they want you there, 179 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, Alex calling me. I'm like, okay, you 180 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: want me to go to the reunion. I really don't 181 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: want to go. I don't have to go. I'm not 182 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: My contract didn't say I had to be there. And 183 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: then I got all the calls, Oh no, no, it's 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: perfect for this season for you. You know, it's great. 185 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Even Kyle said, oh no, you're in a good place. 186 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: You had a strong season, even though her and I 187 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: were We were fine at that point and then things 188 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: just went sideways. 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: But you know you did you did the Ultimate Girls Trip, 190 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: and that has sparked a lot of comebacks. Well, I 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: mean I did it, and I came back to Taylor 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: did it. She came back like you just don't know. 193 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: You don't know. I don't know. I don't know how 194 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Bravo feels about me personally. I just don't know. I 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: don't know. It depends and I don't know how I feel. 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,359 Speaker 3: I don't think I would come back full time because 197 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure on you. As you know 198 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: when you have full time that there's an expectation of 199 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: bring it and you know, really put yourself out there. 200 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you have any problem bringing it. 201 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: What would your husband think I'm not sure. 202 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: It depends. We didn't have to really discuss that. That 203 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: that's I'm not sure. I know he wouldn't want to 204 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: be on the show. He likes to show up here 205 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: and there, but he's not invested like some of the 206 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: other husband like the New York was it the New Jersey. 207 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Girls Jersey, Yes, they're in it. 208 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: Like being on County. 209 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: It's truly the only franchise that the guys get involved 210 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: where they can do like we were in and the 211 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: guys were talking about having their own guys trip like 212 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: the Girl's trip. They want their own guys trip, and 213 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, I totally see that happen. 214 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: Now I go ahead the tough questions. 215 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: We recently watched the episode where your medium Allison got 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: into it with Kyle at dinner, and we all know 217 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: what has happened recently with Kyle Mauricio. Did she reach 218 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: out to you or are you still in contact with Alison? 219 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: No, not at all. After that aired, and she got 220 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: such bad backlash from the fans and the audience that 221 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: she was devastated and she planned it on me. She's like, Camille, 222 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: you set me up. No, I did not set her up. 223 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: We did not discuss and I've read this in some 224 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: of the comments. Oh Camille, and you know she set 225 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: this up for Alison to go after Kyle. Not at all, 226 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: Not at all. I Alison has a very strong personality, 227 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: and nobody can tell Alison what to say or what 228 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: not to say. And I had no idea who she 229 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: or wouldn't of who she would have gotten along with 230 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: or knock on. 231 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, you had said earlier in the episode that when 232 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: she drinks, correct, you can't control what comes out of 233 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: her mouth. 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: I can't, and I think that's why she was pissed 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: off that I said that, And she said, oh, can 236 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: you go on National TV or whatever do an interview 237 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: saying that you had a blonde moment? Okay, fine, I 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: might have. Maybe I should have said that, you know, 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: she's my friend at that maybe I should have said that, 240 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: But it's the truth. If she has a cocktailer too, 241 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: and everybody drinks when they're filming this show. Yes, I 242 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: mean I've usually talked to usually, and that's when I 243 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: usually say something very stupid. I guess that I get 244 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: in trouble for. But I don't think that's such a 245 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: bad thing saying when she drinks. You can't control her, 246 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: because that happens to most people, not everybody. Yeah, some 247 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: of us get a little out of control women. I 248 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: know too. I mean, let's just be honest. So she 249 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: hated that I said that, and she felt that I 250 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: outed something, which I didn't and but I never It 251 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: was never a setup to go after any of the ladies. 252 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 3: What happened was my ex husband thought it would be 253 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: a great idea to promote Medium in the show because 254 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: it was airing, and he said, this is great. All 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: these people use this as a platform to promote what 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: they're doing. He promoted the play, his play that he 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: was in La Caage. We got to see the opening 258 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: of Lakage. Then he said, hey, let's promote medium. Great, 259 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: let's get Allison on. She's a character, she's a very 260 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: strong personality. I thought it would make for good TV. 261 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 262 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: Didn't it did It made her great TV? 263 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it was one of the best episodes, 264 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: not because it was our season, but I think it's 265 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: a very iconic. 266 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: It's very iconic. The cigarette, the whole thing. 267 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, she bought the East cigarette. I mean, she is 268 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: someone that turned the world onto these cigarettes. I know 269 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: that we're around, but she right. I thought it was great. 270 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: I loved all of that. Some of this stuff I 271 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: felt was a bit cringey. Honestly, Yeah, it back. I 272 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 3: think I grabbed her hand at one point and try 273 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: to get her to just but no, I mean. 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: She was watching it back where you kind of mortified, like, 275 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: oh shit, this does not look good. 276 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: Of course we all are after the fact, but I 277 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: mean the girls and what you don't see is the 278 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: girls were really pressing her to give them readings, and 279 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: she kept saying, I'm here as Camil's guest. I'll talk 280 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: about the show, I'll talk about medium, but I don't 281 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: want to give anybody a reading. And she got made 282 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: that very clear to me that night, and I let 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: the girls know. And then the ladies, some of them 284 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: just pushed too far, and Kyle was one of them. 285 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: I do believe Lisa vander Pump as I remember she 286 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: was pushing too. Can you just give me something something? 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: And then they started questioning her ability, whether she was 288 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: good or not. And I think that's what triggered her 289 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: to get feisty. It was like them doubting her or 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: questioning her ability, and then she felt defensive, and all 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,119 Speaker 3: of a sudden, She's all in and I was like, Okay, 292 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: here are the fireworks. Yeah, it was just like the 293 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: perfect storm at that point. 294 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: Now, seeing where you and Kyle started, how did your 295 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: relationship evolve to the point where you asked her to 296 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: be a brides made in your wedding in season nine? 297 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: I know, actually before the show started, I met her 298 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: and I liked her a lot. We got along, we 299 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: hung out all night, danced and joked around. I thought 300 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: she was fantastic, and Moe kept saying, Oh, you have 301 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: to meet my wife. You're gonna love her. You're gonna 302 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: love her. So before I was even on the show, 303 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: I actually really enjoyed my time with Kyle. The brief 304 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: times I spent with her, I've really enjoyed her. Then 305 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: the show happened, and then you know, everything happened that 306 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: was very unfortunate that season. And then you know, we 307 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: connected and we realized I thought I really liked her. 308 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: I liked her before the season, so hey, let's give 309 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: this a shot. And then you know, we became friendly, 310 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: not best of friends, but friendly, and we got closer 311 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: and she'd reach out to me and we communicate and 312 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: talk and hang out once in a while, and I 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: would show up to support her at events she was doing, 314 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: like a store opening I supported, and different charity events 315 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: that she did I supported. And when she was on 316 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: it was at QBC or one of those televisions like 317 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: my Mom, and I wrapped buying her clothes, you know, 318 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: to support her. So, you know, I thought we were 319 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: heading in a really good place. I thought we were 320 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: in a good place. And all the girls I was 321 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: going to invite to the wedding, my two top choices 322 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: were her and Vanderpunk. So that's who my top choices 323 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: were now. And when I was discussing with production, you know, 324 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: they were like, it's up to you, and I thought, 325 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: you know what, let's invite everybody, because I know you 326 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: are damned if you do, and you are damned if 327 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: you don't when it comes to this show, as you know, 328 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: so if there was somebody that I didn't invite, that 329 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: was going to be a story or turn into it 330 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: C story, you know, our B storyline. 331 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: That I can totally relate. I had it. You know, 332 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: my wedding was televised as well, so I had some 333 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: of the cast in my wedding and then invited everybody, 334 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: because if you don't, then you're the asshole that didn't 335 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: invite everybody exactly. 336 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: Then there's another storyline, and I thought, no, I'm gonna 337 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: invite everybody. And of course, who was I close to 338 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: at the time that I knew better, because you know, 339 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: through the show, I got to know vander Pump and 340 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: Kyle and the girls from the first couple of seasons, 341 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: first three seasons. I didn't know Erica that well. I 342 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: got to know her a bit, but she was always 343 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: kind of cold and cut off when I was around, 344 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: not just to meet all the ladies. I think she's 345 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: established a relationship with them now. I mean she got 346 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: really close with Renna. 347 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: I think everything she's gone through, she's way more open now. 348 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, more open. I see that when I watch it. 349 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: But when years ago, when I was around, she's very 350 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: pretty distant. 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody kind of saw that of you 352 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: as of your guarded, very guarded. Now now I guess 353 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, she went through a lot of shit, so 354 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: she's way more open and so so sweet and lovely 355 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: when I've been around here now, speaking of season nine, 356 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: speaking of season nine, now, good thing Teddy's not here 357 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: because I'm gonna ask, what was the beef between you 358 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: and Teddy? Was a remember. 359 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: I remember some of it. I think what was the beef? 360 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: I really didn't have a beef with Teddy until what 361 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: was it? Probably after the wedding what I had heard, 362 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: and it wasn't anything on camera. When did it start? 363 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: I guess Teddy and I were starting to have a 364 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 3: little something between us when we were on camp, when 365 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: we were glamping, there was a little I remember that. 366 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: I think now that I you know, now, do. 367 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: You have any hard feelings for Teddy? 368 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: Now? Now? 369 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean I think you and I have been in 370 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: social media beefs before because we've both been out. Yeah, 371 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: but I mean I have zero nothing against you. I 372 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: adore you. It's not so weird. 373 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: I have no like, no, I have no beef. We 374 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: had a little thing about it was after season nine. 375 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: I said something and yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I remember now, yeah, 376 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: I remember that. 377 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: I used to get myself in a lot of trouble. 378 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: Well show, when it comes to those shows, it happens, 379 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: I know, we get emotional. I was, yeah, a little 380 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: put off about how she kept pushing herself into conversations 381 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: like I wanted to communicate with Pile alone what happened 382 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: without having Teddy interject all the time, Like I. 383 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Think, not Teddy interjecting. 384 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: I think she's a chronic interrupter. 385 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: She means well. 386 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: She might regarding to who her friend is at the time. 387 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: So I really wanted to focus on that conversation I 388 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: was having with Kyle, and she kept interjecting, and it's 389 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: very hard to. 390 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: Keep so it was nothing deep, like, there's nothing deep 391 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: that went down. 392 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Between the two of you. No, no, no. And then 393 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: something happened with my daughter felt that she had just 394 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: just dismissed her a bit. But then Teddy sent me 395 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: a tack saying, oh, you know, she'd never do that. 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: Let me and said, oh that's so sweet. Okay, because 397 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: really fond of Teddy. My daughter really liked Teddy. She 398 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: like because Teddy was younger and Mason Carele, and she 399 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: maybe saw herself a little bit in Teddy. So I 400 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: think when she felt ignored for that brief moment at 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: the airport, this all happened off camera, you know, she 402 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: felt a little hurt, and you know, she was a 403 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: young girl, was sixteen at the time, maybe maybe younger. 404 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly. So she might have taken something, 405 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: you know, like, hey, that's out the little aUI that 406 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: didn't feel good and I'm being mama Bear was very 407 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: protective of her. 408 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Teddy's the greatest girl ever. Like I really. 409 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: That season when my first season went Teddy, I adored her. 410 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: I just wanted to She's so real. She was so 411 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: real her first season. 412 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very much a girl's girl for sure. 413 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: It was up against she was up against Erica. That's 414 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: tough to be up against Erica. It's such a big, 415 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: strong person. 416 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: Denise Richards as well too. That was that was a 417 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: crazy season. Now let's switch gears a little bit. Let's 418 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: talk about Ultimate Girls Trip four. I know there's a 419 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: lot of drama that went down. 420 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: Now. 421 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 2: You know, I'm close with Vicky, so I was getting 422 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: the text messages while she was actually filming. What was 423 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: your experience like and how was it being back? 424 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I really enjoy Morocco. Hey, free Vacation 425 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: of Morocco great. It's tough to film that many hours 426 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: because you're on all the time. You get the brakes 427 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: and you have to kind of jump into right into 428 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: you know, a storyline which was different from me, coming 429 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: from you know building, you know your character, who you 430 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: are creating this, you know whatever it is, it's going 431 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: to be with you and the girls. And yes, it 432 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: does happen organically, but I felt like you were just 433 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: shoved into this situation with some girls you know and 434 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: some girls you don't. Kind of felt like the odd 435 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: man out because a lot of the girls had filmed before. 436 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: Vicky had filmed with. 437 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: Phaedra And yeah, we did season two, The Ultimate Girl's Trip. 438 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: A lot of them were who were on your cast, 439 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: And I mean they were so much fun. I got 440 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: to know them. Some of them I didn't know, Like Eva, 441 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know her, She's adorable. Who did you bond 442 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: with the most? 443 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: Well? I knew Gretchen from before, so I bonded with 444 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: Gretchen because I've known her a bit before. I thought 445 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: Alex was fun, very different than I expected. She's cookie 446 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: and fun. But I didn't mind her. She's actually very 447 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: kind and I liked her. Who else? Brandy and I 448 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: have a thing. But yeah, I have to stay tuned 449 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: for that. 450 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see that. 451 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 3: We had a few things. Do we know? 452 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: Do you know when it's gonna air? 453 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 454 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, the cause we. 455 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: Were all invited to Bravocon and then we were uninvited. 456 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: Wy the cast was invited to Bravocon and then we 457 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 3: were uninvited because they decided to cancel our panel. So 458 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: and I think that was a network decision. So I 459 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: didn't take it personally. Was I bummed? Yes, I even 460 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: text Damn Andy, Yeah, I'm bummed. He's like, I know 461 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: you're bummed, Donataci. But and I was. 462 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: Is did you think this has to do with the 463 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: with the investigation that was going on or were you 464 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: asked after you filmed in the investigation started. 465 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. That's a good question. I'm not sure 466 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: what I was told. And I do believe this is 467 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: that they were really the network really wanted to plug 468 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: The Real Housewives of New York the reboot because it 469 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: did so well and was it crappy Lake did so 470 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: well and it did it did it was great that 471 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: they wanted to promote the Ultimate Girls Trip legacy show 472 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: with the Housewives of New York. So it was just 473 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 3: I think it was a network decision. So in our 474 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: show was pushed back or air data has been pushed back. 475 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: Fingers crossed it that it's going to air. I don't know, right, 476 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: I've heard. 477 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: I've heard that there's been a lot of tweeting out there, 478 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: but I never know what to believe. Now, if you 479 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: can do a Beverly Hills Legacy cast, would you do that? 480 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: I would? That would be fun. 481 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: I think that would be a lot of fun. 482 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 3: I think it would be stressful and fun at the 483 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: same time. And like I've seen some of the fans 484 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: write and say, who would you want to be on with? 485 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: I think the Originals and they're you know, it would 486 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: be great to have all the girls on, but how 487 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 3: many girls can you have? Right? Yeah? So I think 488 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: definitely when you're talking about a legacy, you definitely think 489 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: of you know, Kyle and LVP. Those are the two 490 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: that stands. Oh for sure, you know those are your 491 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: two big. 492 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 2: Do you think that they could film together? 493 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I really I don't. I don't know. 494 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: Do you still talk to Lisa. 495 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: I haven't spoke to Lisa in a while, but we 496 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: were communicating for a while after season nine, but probably 497 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: probably been about a year. 498 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw her at Brava Khan. She's always been 499 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: incredibly sweet to me. Both her and Ken. You know, 500 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: they went up to Eddie, They're like, how's your heart? Like, 501 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: they're always very kind, very very kind. I adore them. 502 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was really nice to me. Season nine, after 503 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: my you know, my assistant passed away and I was 504 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: devastated and her unfortunately, her brother passed away. So we 505 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: had that that thing that bonded us, that grief. Yeah, yeah, grief. 506 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: And she was explaining to me about her brief counseling 507 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: and she was trying to help me through it, and 508 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, so we were chatting a lot during that time. 509 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: I was even on the phone with her when my 510 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: house was burning down. 511 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's talk about that. So the house 512 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: that you filmed in season one, that's not the same 513 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: house that burned down, is it. 514 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: No? Season one was a house that Kelsey and I 515 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: shared together. Okay, so we left and I stayed in 516 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: that house for several years, and that's my thought. We 517 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: sold it and then I'm to another house. It was 518 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: my first house that I purchased on my own after 519 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: the divorce, and that's the one that burned down. 520 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: So oh, it's it's got to be so incredibly hard 521 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: to recover from something like that. Losing so many like memories, 522 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: and you probably lost all your pictures and. 523 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: Just a lot, yes, a lot. The firefighters were incredible. 524 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: They knew that they couldn't save the house. At one 525 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: point there was not enough water coming in through their hydrant, 526 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: so they just said that They pushed out some of 527 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: the artwork from the lower floor and some of my 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: photographs that they could find. They were able to rescue 529 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: those and put those aside. Everything was outside of the house, 530 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: but anything on the second most of the house was 531 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: a story, so the second floor. 532 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: I remember seeing pictures of it. It was pretty scary. 533 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: It was scary, but you know that I was more 534 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: upset about Scott passing away, my longtime assistant house manager. 535 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: He was so loyal he I met him through Kelsey, 536 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: who was Kelsey's house manager. He stayed on with me 537 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: after the divorce. He didn't like what Kelsey did. He said, 538 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: I'm loyal to you, Emil. He was so angry at Kelsey, 539 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: so disappointed in him, and we just had a bond 540 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 3: Scott and I and it's one of my closest friends. 541 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: Was like a good brother to me. 542 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: So how is your relationship with Kelsey now? Do you 543 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: even have a relationship now that you kids held. 544 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: A relationship, and it's unfortunate, but you know, sometimes it happens. 545 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Are you surprised they're still Mary? Isn't she's like really young. 546 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: Thirty years. Yeah, there's a thirty years. 547 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: He's got to be pushed in seventy, right. 548 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: Yes he is. Oh, there's so much I can say 549 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: about that. 550 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: I know, I know, don't bother, I don't other 551 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: S