WEBVTT - The Notebook with Caitlin Gill 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.720 On the bed cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.760 women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:12.160 or do they have individualism? The patriarchy, Zef and Vast 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:18.120 start changing it with the beck Del cast. Welcome, thank 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:23.760 you for drumming. Hi Jamie, hiy. So let's start by 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.440 saying again, thank you for coming to the live show. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.200 We're talking about the notebook. You have been given Bechtel 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.000 cast bingo board cards, but we can't say boards, bingo boards, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.800 bingo boards. I keep bingo board. I had this whole 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.200 plan where I was gonna keep saying bingo board moment. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.159 Oh just in now, but also in the future. I 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.880 was like, I think we're gonna have all these bingo 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.440 board moments when we're like together, we for sure will, right. Okay, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.240 So you got bingo boards, so we're gonna be talking 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.840 for a while, and if we say anything, you've got 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.720 your boards, You've got your writing utensils. The first person too, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.480 I guess the rules of Bengo is a diagonal, horizontal 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:11.360 or vertical five in a row yellow Bechtel. That was 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:17.360 Aristotle's idea, and now everyone can find it on your board. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.080 So yeah, I mean get great. We between Kalen and I, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.039 we have about twenty five thoughts that go on a 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.319 loop and they're all on that Bengo board. So so 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.200 the winner will get a prize. UM. Shout out to 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.800 our fan at Danny Cavalier, who created the Spectel Bingo board, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.240 so thank you. It was utilizing it. Yeah, and then 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.319 he was like, to prove the concept. I've really listened 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:47.280 to twelve episodes and lost Bengo at all of them. So, 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.880 but you guys are gonna win. Someone's gonna win anyway. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.960 But around up the plus, has everybody here seen you? 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.400 Give it up? If you've seen the notebook? All right, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.840 we've got some horny people in the audience. I like it. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.480 Clap it up. If you have not seen the notebook, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.360 don't be ashamed. Okay, so we've got a few people. Okay, cool, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.600 We've got a lot to talk about. If you haven't 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.120 seen the notebook, we will, I mean, Caitlin is extremely 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.000 good at recapping things, so we will. We will guide 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.639 you through it, and we're gonna have We're gonna have 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.799 a killer time. I'm so excited for our guest too. Yes, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.600 let's figure out. Yeah, she's a comedian. You know her 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.200 from our Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid episode all right, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.280 and she wrote for the upcoming Misfits and Monsters. It's 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.240 going to be coming out on True TV. Give it 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:42.680 up for Caitlin gil Okay again to Caitlin's in one stage. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.040 I don't know how similar our voices are, but I 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.079 am Caitlin Gil yes, and I am Caitlin Drante. We 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:53.480 forgot to introduce ourselves. Oh I'm little Jamie. I just 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.679 show up to I'm Skatelin Guilt the roller skate and 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.639 Grandma you'd like to fuck right love it? Oh my gosh, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.400 I okay. First of all, I'm looking over your shoulder, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.079 Kitlin uh Durante, Oh god, okay, looking over your shoulder, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.799 Caitlin Durante, as I always am. And you've got how 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.440 many pages of notes today? Seven? Seven? And I'm sorry 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.880 I say that's a full note book. Good night, everybody, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.560 Thank you very much, thank you. And that was a 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:29.799 full discussion. Eleven point font what's you're saying at one 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:37.000 point five one? Baby margins are slim? Caitlin's got a 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.000 lot of thoughts on this. I have exactly I don't. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.160 I don't want to give you a bingo board moment whatever. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.240 First of all, a man just yelled do it to me. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.680 I'll gonna come up. No, Okay, I did. For all 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.920 you bingo borders out there, I did watch this movie 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:58.800 this morning, and I have exactly eight bullet points. I 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.680 got out a bottle of water, but I peeled the 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.760 label off so I knew which one was mine. That's 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.560 how prepared I am. That's not true very much. Degrees 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.680 of prepared a fast spectrum of preparedness. I watched the 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:16.839 movie three times, so for the podcast, let's clarify you 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.719 have seen it many times independently, only a couple before this. Okay, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:31.680 don't don't. That's freeing, that's feude, fude in fud. We're 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.640 just giving them away and borne al from Milena. Okay, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.600 I will just get it out at the top. Alfam 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.320 Billina in this movie could have played Rachel mcadam's twirly 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.360 mustache Dad for sure. For sure, because the mother is 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.279 a big character and we'll talk about her a lot, 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.799 But twirly mustache Dad. Isn't it for like three seconds 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.479 that he's always just like doing a twirly he's like, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.960 you know, talking to a pool boy. I see, that's 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.360 like all he does. Like there's one and where he 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.120 talks to a poor man in another scene where he 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.159 talks to the sandwich with like crayfish on, it doesn't 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.360 pass the Backtel tests. If a guy with a twirly 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.880 mustache talks to a sandwich. I suggest we revised the rules. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.320 What does that mustache smell like? I'm speaking of the 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.920 Bechtel test. I wonder, just out of curiosity, is there 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.240 anyone who has never listened to an episode of the 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.440 Bechtel Cast and are therefore very confused by everything that's 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.680 happened so far. Don't be afraid. They're nice. Oh we've 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.000 got a little hand. Okay, what if you really had 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:35.440 a little party. He's got a regular size hand? Thank you? Did? 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:41.600 Did someone bring you hi? Okay? Well, welcome, welcome. So 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.480 we will define the Bechtel Cast for you and you alone. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:55.120 The best is fluid, beautiful, gorgeous. And the test does 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.760 have several interpretations. We use a very specific one. Yes, 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.479 the Bechtel test applied to for our sake movies. It 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.080 requires that there are two women who have names. Their 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.800 characters have names. They speak to each other, and their 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.320 conversation cannot be about a man. That is the test. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.960 The Bechtel cast, we that's are sort of jumping off point. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.960 We talk about the portrayal of women in movies, one 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.320 movie at a time. I do think it's funny that 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.440 sometimes people are like, oh, yeah, that's just the podcast 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.200 where you decide, Like, do you think we take an 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:31.480 hour deciding if one conversation takes tonight? I feel like 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.560 we could though. We Yeah, because we started a pre debate. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.760 We did. We warmed up. Yeah. I asked whether or 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.200 not you guys think the notebook passes the test, and 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.520 we will, Well, well let's save it. Save it talking 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.520 away a twist, I do. As soon as I started 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.680 this segue, I was like, these two have a plan, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.320 and I am like trying to be at the hot 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.400 shot guest all like, hey, guys, how about a guide 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.400 our conversation a little bit. You have seven pages of 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.880 eleven font note with slim. Margree basically brought a manifesto, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.359 and I'm here like, why don't I throw out a 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.279 pitch for a topic. You've got this covered, We'll get there. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.800 I think that, Yeah, you're the UNI Bomber. I'm the 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:15.080 UNI Bomber's friend. He didn't have any UNA. I know 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.320 that doesn't mean one. I just wanted it to mean one. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.720 It means university Bomber because that's where he started. He 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.560 was ruined in a university. Anyway, don't I get a 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.520 university shout out to Kazynski. I have a Kazynski sweatshirt. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.920 I was robbed of a Bechtel Bingo board moment when 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:37.960 I said speaking universities, take it home. To have a 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:43.880 master's degree from Boston University? What in screenwriting? Where from 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:49.720 Boston University? UNI bomber adjacent a master's degree? Indeed? Okay, 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.000 let's talk about the notebook? Shall we the notebook? Yes, Caitlyn, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.360 you saw it recently. I had not seen the notebook, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.320 and I did for this podcast. So that tells you 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.480 how deeply am willing sacrifice for the two of you. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.800 Thank you so much, right, Jamie, when did you see it? 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.880 I saw this. I watched this movie with my grandma 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:14.000 on T N T. Let's say in two thousand and seven. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.240 I think we watched it with commercials in Massachusetts and 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.160 two thousand. I remember at that time, I was like, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.320 this is dumb. I don't love is. I was like 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.680 a big hot topic shopper, and I didn't really believe 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.040 in love if it wasn't directly related to Jack and Sally. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.200 So so I did see that it, didn't care for it, 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.880 and didn't see it again until this morning, and I 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.640 watched it twice and I cried so much. Did you watch? 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.320 I got very I mean, and I've become a very 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.280 emotional adult. No, but I did, and I saw it, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.040 and I was, I was. This was one of those 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.560 episodes where I was fully going and expecting to unequivvocally hate. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.120 Have a problem with every element of this movie, and 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.200 there's mistakes were certainly made. We will discuss them. But 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 it did far better than I expect it because I 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.360 forgot forgot almost everything. Yes, so I think that takes 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.719 us to the recap and then we'll get into the discussion. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.080 So the notebook, if you have not seen it, um 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:25.640 we open on two old people, Duke and unnamed old 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.559 woman who lives in a nursing home. They call him 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.960 Duke because they they're just like, what if it's not 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.280 Ryan Gosling parentheses old? Yeah, it's confusing. I guess that's 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.920 his nickname. They really could have. We could have used 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.080 a nickname reveal toward the end of the movie. They 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.200 they didn't do that. It would have been handy after 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.560 you know, you get you'll get there in the recap, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.360 but there would have been a time to give him 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.760 a nickname. And frankly, I want to know why they 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.520 call him Duke. There's a story that doesn't come out 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.800 of nowhere. You don't just reading the paper one day, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.040 you're Duke. Now He's never He's never referred to as 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.400 Duke in the earlier events of the movie. So something 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:10.640 happens between ages like and seventy. He becomes Duke. Good 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:18.040 life crisis, buys a boat, Call me Duke. Yeah exactly. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.719 So our friend Duke visits this old woman and he 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.280 reads her a story from the notebook a notebook. Oh 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:34.080 I just I write, Yeah? Did you just want to 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.679 hear out why the movie is called the Notebook? I wouldn't. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.320 It was a notebook as much as it was aleatherbound journal. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:48.040 But that's not a leatherbound journal in theater's Mealentine's Day. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:57.920 They just figured that out. Yea, yeah, happy. So, so 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:03.840 Duke reads this man a story from the book, and 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:10.120 the leather bounds up. The story is about Noah and Ali. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.640 They are a couple of young people who meet for 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.960 the first time in ninety Noah is poor, he's a 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.199 poor boy, and he works at the lumber yard. When 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.240 do we want to introduce the fact that this is 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.560 like Titanic? Basically, there's a lot of As you go 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.120 through the recap, Oh god, these fucking bingo borders. I 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.719 don't know why were we gave it to you? Sorry, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.320 like so gross of you to participate like we asked. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.400 But do as you listen through the recap, there's so 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.160 many parallels that we will break down in detail. We 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.720 sure will so. Ali in the meantime is a rich 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.160 girl and her family is in town for the summer. 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.640 Noah pursues Ali, and she is resistant at first, and 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.160 we will don't forget to percent talk about it. He's 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.760 got a little news. He's hat. He's wearing a hat. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.760 I love how I love like the interesting little choices 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.040 that people will make to make an actor who's clearly 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.719 like in his late twenties seem like a teenagers like 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.040 I just put a little newsy tat on him, just 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.880 like young make those pants bag year. That'll cut off 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.120 about five years, slouch a little bit and go oh man. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.320 So he's pursuing her. She is not into it at first, 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.200 but eventually he wins her over and then they start dating. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.080 But it's the summer before she's going to leave for college, 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.200 so she's about to leave for college, and they break 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.600 up because he's like, I don't see how we're gonna 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.520 make it work. I'm too poor. And then a few 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.000 years pass, Noah bidses like old plantation house and meanwhile 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.400 also goes to World War two? Ever heard of it? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.920 Everyone's on their bingo boards. I guess world War two? 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:49.440 One World War two references on the bingo board. He 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:54.760 goes to war, his friend dies, he comes back, He 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.960 goes back, and he fits. He buys this old plantation 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.880 home that he was like, Ali and I are going 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.360 to live here because we're gonna be together forever. Psych 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.480 but that is what happens. Uh sorry, I just to 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.760 all everything. So he he makes this house all nice, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.960 and then someone takes a picture of it in the 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.040 paper and then Ali sees it, except that meanwhile she's 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.320 found another man, James Marson. Yes, okay, the people some 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.160 people would disagree. I think Gosling to Marsden upgrade, That's 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.800 what I think. Yes, Yeah, James Marson is like cartoonishly handsome, 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.320 which is why he plays a cartoon What an upgrade. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.480 Not only that actor is, but that character. Yeah, the characters, 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.440 majorly James Marson. God, it's like, like, what does he 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.439 do to his eyebrows or are they just like that? 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.520 It's just crazy, It's amazing. One of the parallels to 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.520 Titanic is that he has great eyebrows. Cal Hockley great eyelashes. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.480 All right, what if Billy Zane was in both of 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.280 these movies? What if he was the connecting thread The 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.800 Notebook a movie about a notebook. So she's used his 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.120 picture in the paper, she faints because women be fainting, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:09.240 and then in her wedding dress, and she decides to 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.600 go and see him, to pay him a visit because 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.240 it's been seven years and their relationship broke off kind 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.120 of abruptly. Oh and there's a whole thing where he 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.400 wrote her a letter every single day for a year 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.440 and her mom intercepted all those letters, so she never 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.960 got them and she didn't know that he was writing 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.680 to her, which honestly you lazy checked the mail once 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.920 a year. Yeah, get here, get up earlier and yeah 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.320 you see the mom getting the mail and it's like, yeah, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.680 it's about two. She's fully dressed the same early. It's 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.480 not like she has the mail guy delivering stuff on 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:48.160 the low. He's delivering it regularly, right. So she approaches 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.240 him and she's like, hey, how how are you? And 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.000 he was like, I've been drunk for a long time. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:02.560 To be fair, he's lost everyone, his dad and for Brith. Basically, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.400 we'll get there. His name is Finn, but it's like 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.880 his name's and he died in nineteen twelve. Why is 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:16.160 he in this movie? So Ali and Noah reconnect, but 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.080 she's like, oh do I stay with my James Marsin Like, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.360 just just so you know, Kitlen gill is fully I 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.080 was making the finger inserted into the fist sex implication 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.640 motion because they do it. That's when they do it. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.520 That's the part of the movie where they do it. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.760 It's true. If you're looking at the fast forward to 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.400 a really boring milk toast love scene, that's you gotta 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.120 go to about two thirds not even a nippy, not 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.160 even a nippy. There was gonna be a nippy. Yes, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.320 they have sex, and she's like, wait a minute, Do 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:52.320 I stay with Lawn my James marsden fiance or Lawn 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.080 is James Marsin For the purpose of this podcast, we'll 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.840 be calling him James Marsden obviously, or do I go 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.960 back with Noah Ryan Gosling and honestly, because he makes 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:10.800 her come and and James Marsden doesn't, well, I don't 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.880 see it. Well, after they have sex, she's like, so 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:18.080 that's what I've been missing. I think there's because she 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.800 like how she is like losing her purity. I definitely 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.520 thought she had an between her knees until she went 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.920 back to see Noah. But that that's a very different interpretation. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.520 That does have different The last spring, I think that 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.600 was her. I think she was having really boring sex. Okay, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.360 so that so and that I would buy that that 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.680 she was basically telling James Marsden that she was a 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.920 virgin and wanted to wait for a marriage. I don't 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.480 even know even if that was like a little proper ship, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.680 like this is a dude who asked her parents first 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.400 and all that, Like, I can't say for sure. It's 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.800 just that was my interpretation, because there was there was 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.160 nothing about that sex scene that implied in any way 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.080 that she would come from what he was doing. I 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.879 do not believe she was like that he had the 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.560 focus or dexterity to accomplish. No, it's stunted, a little joking, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.000 and she's like, so that's what I've been missing out 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.680 on on this whole time. And then he turns to 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:18.280 her and I was like, yeah, it's all kind of 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.320 love scene where someone strong is carrying someone tiny, which 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.960 inevitably ends in the tiny person being pressed up against 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.480 the wall, and in this case it was like a cabinet. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.760 There's nothing she's you cannot come with a handle sticking 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.840 in your back and like, yeah, okay, cool, you dragged me, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.639 Like we're off the wall now and now we're just 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.040 in your ghostly ass plantation trying to fuck in the 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.840 same room we couldn't fucking when we were seventeen. What 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.240 do you remember how romantic it was to go back 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.800 to where you first tried to funk when you were seventeen. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.320 Drive your car to your parents driveway and just sitting 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.240 it fumbling. Yeah, hard pass, hard pass. Yeah. I guess 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.399 we should all go back to that oh one Ford 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.200 focus that we were all in at one time. Okay, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.080 so I kind of misinterpreted what happened. Now I think 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.960 that's open either way. We're still at the recap. So 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.359 she is like, yeah, I'm gonna pick Noah because he's 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.800 my first love. And she does confront her mom about 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.840 the whole letter thing and her mom was like shrug 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.200 and her mom. Her mom reveals that not only did 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.320 she hide the letters, but she did it in spite 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.240 of the fact that she herself harbored a young summer love. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.560 That she still occasionally goes back to watch work in 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:34.880 his rock quarry from her fucking convertible Plymouth with her 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.920 like Gucci's on or whatever if that was a thing 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:42.439 in seven just watching this dude like shovel Rocks, it 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.919 looks at your daughter like I love her father, but 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:50.720 I'd still that graveled guy. That was the question, because 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.439 at the end of that scene he looks over, I'm like, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.600 does he recognize her? And it's like, oh, yeah, we 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.840 used to hook up. And now forty years later, she 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.479 still comes and stares at me shovel Rocks. Sometime, in 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.000 case you're wondering if I've got that good dick or not. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.920 Women be staring at me shoveling rocks four decades on. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.600 Wax mustache guy outside like shoveling the driveway, like, I 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.480 don't know why she asked me to do this. She's 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:34.920 so aroused. When I come back in, wax mustache guy 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:39.480 comes like coins or like because he looks like an 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.880 extra from the Greatest Showman, Like he fully looks like 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:48.719 a magician who's gotten lost. It's just but she's she 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:53.479 loves him. Yeah. So the mom takes Ali to the 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.840 quarry or whatever, and it's like, I do once love 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.280 to pour and it's basically the end of the year. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.640 And then she's like, make the right choice and then 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.640 drops her daughter off at the fully restored plantation mansion 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.640 the poor lives in so hard air quotes around poor 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.680 at home listeners. Right, so, and then at some point 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.480 in the story, it's revealed remember Duke and the old 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.960 woman who is hearing the story. Turns out Duke is 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:32.840 Noah and the old lady is Alip gasping. But the 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.919 reason that he is recounting this story to her is 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.280 that she has dementia and she's lost her memory. So 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.000 he reads the story to her to help her remember 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.119 their love for each other from the note book, it 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:50.359 turns out from the leatherbound journal, and then sometimes it 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:56.520 works and she remembers, and then they die together. I 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.640 totally forgot that there's this like rapid fire fifteen minute 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.840 ending where like she remembers, she sundowns, he has a 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.560 heart attack. He goes to see her in the ward 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.600 that she's now trapped in because he's not there to 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.639 read to her. I guess he like shovels out and 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.640 a nurse is like, sir, you're not allowed to walk around, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.240 and I'm definitely gonna leave to get coffee and let 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.159 you wink winks. He goes in to see his ailing wife, 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.359 who wakes up in full cognizance. Hi, honey, good to 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.040 see you know. Uh, do you think our love could 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:28.520 kill us together? He crawls into bed, and that poor 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.080 nurse comes back to work in the morning, like I 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.480 can't whistle into the microphone, but she is a whistling 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:37.880 carrying a cup of coffee, Like I wonder where those 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:42.200 old people who are in love are. Pushes open the door, corpses, blackout, 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.200 credits roll. Sorry there are birds first, and then credits 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.199 roll a lot of swans, a lot of bird for 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.400 I thought they were geese, and I was like, are 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.320 we to believe that writing consoling has been a goose 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.639 that apparently we are. We missed it, we didn't. You 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.600 can't cap the birds. But the movie opens on this lay. 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.479 I love to notice in a movie, like when the 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.960 editor's name pops up in the opening credits, like what 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.600 scene was there? Because that's obviously a choice. The editor 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.359 chooses that, or like director of photography, and all of 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.920 them are just like glorious birds, like everyone who edited 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.119 or had a like a saying how the picture looks? 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.680 Opens to swan soaring. The movie goes through and they're 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.719 at the beach and Ali's like, what has be incarnated 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.000 as a bird? No, it's like that's weird, except fine, 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.440 you're a bird. I'm a bird. And then when Ali 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.439 comes back to see you now after after he's rebuilt 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.080 the house, he's like, come with me. I'm not gonna 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.560 tell you where, but it's probably dangerous. I consistently endanger you. 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.440 And then took her on a boat to see ducks. 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.639 They look at ducks, at rains, then their land. It's like, 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.240 let's die together. They die together. Camera pulls out of 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.439 the nursing home, fucking birds, like, did we need this 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.480 book end? I hope somebody. I hope a camera, like 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.640 a b unit camera guy got shot on so hard. 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.359 I hope that there is someone in the theater in 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.359 two thousand four who just like wailed like and there's 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:03.679 bird like that really made that tied the movie together 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.320 for them. I will say I decided to view that 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.720 from like a bitter on relence. There's no reason to 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.400 It is beautifully shot. It's some gorgeous immagery way to go, like, yeah, 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.240 be a bird. I guess that's a very free way 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.560 you imagine your dead parents, which is what that movie 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.840 makes you do at the end. So cool. Yeah great. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.080 Here's another question I had because there is a moment 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.560 in the Old People's Story where all of their kids 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.359 and grandkids show up, but Ali doesn't realize that because 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:34.240 she has dementia, and so Duke it's just like dude, 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.080 I like to think he joined a middle aged man's 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.000 basketball week and he's like, I'm Duke. He got Duke's 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:44.720 jersey from last year and he's Duke now. Yeah, But 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.440 there's like a brief conversation after Ali takes her nap 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.520 or she like she leaves the scene and all the 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.120 kids are talking to to Noah and they're like, oh, 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.479 Mom doesn't remember us of that. I'm like, have you 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.879 read this weird, long handwritten story about your parents? Fucking Like, 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.600 do they know the notebook story? I feel like they 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.200