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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Fire, Faym. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Boyer for Tuesday at June the tenth. It's starting to

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Speaker 2: get into the dog days of summer, folks. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I'm willing to commit to that in June.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, you have dinner on Monday night,

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Speaker 2: There's NHL Florida Panthers, Edmonton. M Sorry, I can't can't

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Speaker 2: get really into that, so I you know, what I

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Speaker 2: started watching again was All American, the show that was

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Speaker 2: on the CW. I don't know if it's Netflix exclusive now,

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'm on you know, I

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Speaker 2: had started it and watching it on regular TV, and

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Speaker 2: now it's on like season seven, and some of the

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Speaker 2: cast has departed, as like, I guess everyone graduated college.

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Speaker 2: But it's not a terrible show, honestly, if you're into

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of some cheesy stuff and some high

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Speaker 2: one to zero in an urban setting in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's essentially what the show is. And I was a

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Speaker 2: and I don't mind watching a cheesy show like that

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Speaker 2: while I'm folding laundry or getting dressed for a men's

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Speaker 2: All American. After that, I got to get back to

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Speaker 2: Liones because there's just not a lot happening in sports

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Speaker 2: right now. Honestly, NBA Finals is not super interesting. We

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Speaker 2: have a guest today, Rafael Barlow. We start talking about

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Speaker 2: the NBA, but he's a big draft guy, so we

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Speaker 2: just end up talking about the draft for a long time.

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Speaker 2: And frankly, the draft is fascinating this year. So I

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Speaker 2: think you guys will like the interview Rafael Barlow. He

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Speaker 2: does the old chad Ford NBA Draft big board site,

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Speaker 2: really good stuff. He's got some interesting draft opinions. It

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Speaker 2: made me think, hopefully you like it. Here's Rafael Barlow.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into

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Speaker 2: straight Fire. A new face on the podcast. Haven't had

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Speaker 2: him on, but he's a big time hooped, does a

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Speaker 2: lot of really interesting stuff around, you know, the draft NBA,

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Speaker 2: and I think he may be aware of my take

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Speaker 2: my man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to have you. And I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know. The Finals are one to one.

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Speaker 2: We gotta wait till Wednesday for Game three. Not a

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Speaker 2: way we had it, you know, Super team Earrow with

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say I'm giving the finals not

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Speaker 2: it's like, I don't see a ton of interesting things here.

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Speaker 2: I'm obviously rooting Pacers, I'll be open, but I'm curious

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people, and the numbers

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Speaker 3: there were so many storylines. And yes, NBA fans have

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Speaker 3: Dynasties have been norm you know, from the Lakers Celtics,

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Speaker 2: I kinda went after inside the NBA earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: They're perfectly positioned to take on Giannis without really losing anything.

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Speaker 2: when it comes to team building, for you, what has

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Speaker 3: I actually think San Antonio could make a compelling offer

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Speaker 3: Presty's just done the right things. He's made a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pressed a lot of the right buttons in

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Speaker 3: I would? I would, just because with the parody in

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Speaker 3: Victor wom Mayama, you just made a trade for Dearon Fox.

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Speaker 3: I was I would sling for the fences. Gianni's is

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Speaker 3: wrinkle to that is I like Dylan Harper. He's the

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Speaker 3: if the fit is good with him. In San Antonio,

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Speaker 3: they brought in Fox. Defon Castle is best with the

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Speaker 3: Dylan Harper is best with the ball in his hands. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if those three guys really compliment

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Speaker 2: You could argue that Halliburton and Nemhard are in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've long been a big verbal supporter of Stanford's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you? Is just the kind of and

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Speaker 3: No, I guess there's a difference as he went to

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Speaker 2: So where are you on the whole? It almost seems like,

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Speaker 3: I think Philly's in a weird spot. So you have

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Speaker 2: Super hot take. Haven't heard of anybody say I've been

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Speaker 2: But can you package embid with the number three pick

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's worth to try. But

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Speaker 3: I think that that embid means so much to Philly

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Speaker 2: That's a fairpoint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think it would be tough, too

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Speaker 3: Yeah? All day? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what now? That's interesting because Edgecombe was

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, yeah, hear me out. Trey Johnson. SEC was

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Speaker 2: So is your is a fair cop for Trey Johnson?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Paul George is probably not at not good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't know how much you use chat ept,

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Speaker 2: This is I just asked a good original NBA com

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Speaker 2: Cam Thomas. I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lazy comparison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Alan Houston, remember the ten he

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good one. Now this one you're

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Speaker 3: Get it. I think Trey's a better passer, can put

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Speaker 3: can improve that, but it's not like he's a dead

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Speaker 3: eye shooter, good passer, but he's not like a great playmaker.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of my concern. I'm a little bit

433
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Speaker 3: lower on him than the consensus, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: he gets past four at Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: So I want to go back. So the toughest thing

436
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Speaker 2: about the NBA draft for me is anytime I talk

437
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Speaker 2: about guys, they're like, he can't do this, he can't

438
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Speaker 2: And my thing is, for me, it's less about what

439
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Speaker 2: they can or can't do, it's about what they could do,

440
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: what they could be down the road, Like Shay Gilgash,

441
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Speaker 2: Alexander coming out of Kentucky basically was what he is

442
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: now right, great at drawing fouls, amazing at the free

443
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Speaker 2: throw line, doesn't love three point shooting, and a good

444
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Speaker 2: solid passer. So you could actually see that coming out,

445
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: but he just he didn't play a ton to the walk.

446
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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of why he dropped it. Would

447
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Speaker 2: you agree, Well.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a situation where Kentucky kind of held

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Speaker 3: him back. He didn't give an opportunity to really showcase

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Speaker 3: everything he could do. I actually had a conversation with

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Speaker 3: Bam out of BAIO a few years ago. I'm a

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Speaker 3: Blazers fan. I said, hey, man, why did my Blazers

453
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: pass on you for Zach Collins? And he said, well,

454
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: all the ball handling stuff that I'm doing now and

455
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Speaker 3: dhows you didn't see it At Kentucky. Everybody just thought

456
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Speaker 3: I was a guy that was just a dunker, spot

457
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Speaker 3: and play finisher. So when you look at you, you just Alexander,

458
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Speaker 3: you look at Devin Booker. If I'm not mistaken, Devin

459
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Speaker 3: Booker was coming off the bench.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he was.

461
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Speaker 3: So I think sometimes Kentucky guys have more game than

462
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Speaker 3: that they've been able to show, and I just think

463
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Speaker 3: SGA was just a victim of that.

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Speaker 2: Boy, you want to see how quickly the NBA has turned.

469
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: So twenty eighteen Draft eight and went one, Bagley went two.

470
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Speaker 2: But by the way, both those guys are I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say out of the league, but underway out

472
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Speaker 2: right as a Blazer fan, you'd probably agree.

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Speaker 3: Aiden got a lot of money left on the table,

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Speaker 3: and he was yes flashes where he's product, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to just keep I think he's gonna be

476
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Speaker 3: like Andre Drummond. He's just gonna keep getting checks. But

477
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Speaker 3: teams are gonna be afraid to give him a lot

478
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Speaker 3: of money. So he's just gonna be fighting for these

479
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Speaker 3: mid level exceptions because teams probably just aren't gonna trust him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. Uh, that thiss draft, So Luca went

481
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Speaker 2: through Jared Jackson four, Trey Young five. But again they

482
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Speaker 2: cared about big guys back then, Moe Bomba six, Wendell

483
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Speaker 2: Carter seven, and then like I can't believe the Colin Sexton,

484
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Speaker 2: Kevin Knox, Michel Bridges and SGA went eleventh. That is crazy.

485
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Speaker 2: He's gonna trade He's got an MVP.

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Speaker 3: What's up to Charlotte? And they traded him, right.

487
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Speaker 2: Traded him to the LA Clippers. Charlotte has this foolish history, right,

488
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Speaker 2: remember Kobe Bryant and Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Was it Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they traded Kobe to the Lakers when he made

491
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Speaker 2: those threats. I think it was Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Charlotte. They traded him there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe was like, I'd rather play in Italy than

494
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Speaker 2: play for your shit franchise, And next thing you know,

495
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Speaker 2: he's with the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Imagine to say that as a teenager. You know what

497
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Speaker 3: I mean? That's balls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is interesting, Like you on the hiding

499
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Speaker 2: Kentucky players, there was another one in recent oh oh, Dillingham,

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Speaker 2: but we haven't seen him in Shepherd, h We didn't

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Speaker 2: really see them a lot.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect the opposite what we've seen in the

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Speaker 3: year's past.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like Alexander Walker is going to move

505
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Speaker 2: on and Dillingham will be getting soak up his minutes.

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Speaker 2: I guess off the bench. I don't know. Shepherd. It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: There was so much buzz. Do you remember about his

508
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Speaker 2: buzz at the draft and then in Summer League you

509
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Speaker 2: were expecting people were betting him to win Rookie of

510
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Speaker 2: the Year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shows you Summer league means absolutely absolutely nothing like yeah,

512
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Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, yeah, he's too small, he's not

513
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Speaker 3: gonna make it, and bam, here he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't that's interesting. I had I gotta

515
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Speaker 2: do another mock. I had Trey Johnson four and then

516
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Speaker 2: Edgecomb seven. But the kid who is really electrifying is

517
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Fears. What are you hearing about him? Man? What's

518
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Speaker 2: your vibe on him?

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Speaker 3: I'm a big Jeremiah Fears fan. It was on my

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Speaker 3: podcast back in December my brother mentioned Jeremiah Fears as

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Speaker 3: a top five pick. We definitely got after and criticized,

522
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Speaker 3: But I really like Fears and this is one of

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Speaker 3: the things that I think, you know, it has to

524
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Speaker 3: go beyond your analytics and your measurables and so on.

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Speaker 3: Fears classified up Oklahoma was projected to be like fifteenth,

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Speaker 3: fifteenth in the SEC. He's a freshman guard. We talked

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Speaker 3: about how tough the SEC was this year and Oklahoma

528
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Speaker 3: at the end of the year needed him to basically

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Speaker 3: make the tournament and their seniors. College basketball is getting older.

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Speaker 3: Their seniors were like, hey, give this kid the ball,

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Speaker 3: get out the way. So I love the fact that

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Speaker 3: he wasn't their starting point guard at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the year. He took the keys, he had some game

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Speaker 3: winning shots, and he just has like this this like

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Speaker 3: crazy confidence and and tangible and tangibles that I really

536
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Speaker 3: really like and a guy that you know could be

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Speaker 3: your alpha dog and I see that alpha dog mentality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I don't want to go too overboard with Fears.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you're bro called that in December.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing in December.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like pie in the sky. Everything

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Speaker 2: goes right. Could he be Kyrie?

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Speaker 3: Irving? Kyrie is a one on one like I don't

544
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Speaker 3: even know if you can, like even as a trainer,

545
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Speaker 3: you can put your kid through some drills and say,

546
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Speaker 3: play like Kyrie, like the offensive creativity. I think he's

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Speaker 3: faster than Kyrie. Kyrie just it's just a wizard with

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Speaker 3: the basketball. But you know, maybe like maybe he's deering Fox.

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Speaker 3: You know a guy that just like.

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Speaker 2: But he's been a little disappointing at least the first

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Speaker 2: year at San Aatonio. I'll get him a pass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's been an All Star, you know, I

553
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Speaker 3: mean he was he was an All Star and yeah,

554
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Speaker 3: Kings were they were good that you know that one year.

555
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Speaker 3: But I mean, if if Fears is Fox, you would take.

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Speaker 2: That right at four or five. I don't know, it depends.

557
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Is there someone who you think could be better than Fox?

558
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: Like the kid from b Yu, the big point guard Igor,

559
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: but she.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't shoot like he didn't bring the ball up the

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Speaker 3: court against like Fears, like had to carry his team.

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Speaker 3: Like there's no concerns about his assertiveness and how aggressive

563
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Speaker 3: he is with Yegor. Yes, he's bigger, and then the

564
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Speaker 3: size is more appilling. Yego is a better passer, but

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Speaker 3: there were times where he just didn't want to bring

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Speaker 3: the ball up the court. There were times where he

567
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: was not aggressive and assertive. So I think he's a

568
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Speaker 3: gonna be a really good like Connector, But I think

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Speaker 3: Fears in his mentality is like he's gonna be in alpha.

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Speaker 2: So you don't think he could be Tyrese Haliburton. I

571
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Speaker 2: mean I'm just talking like absolute best case scenario.

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Speaker 3: I mean best case scenario. Yeah, you would take that.

573
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: But Halliburton was an elite shooter and his time at

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Speaker 3: Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think guys seven percent on threes, although Fears

576
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Speaker 2: was only twenty eight percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but eighty five percent from the foul line. So

578
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Speaker 3: I think if you believe free throw shooting is a

579
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Speaker 3: good indicative touch, then you have to leave there's some

580
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Speaker 3: upside there, and.

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Speaker 2: I guess we can wrap up. You know, it's mandatory.

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Speaker 2: I think contractually that if you talk about the draft,

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Speaker 2: you must talk about Cooper Flag. Obviously he's going one

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Speaker 2: to Dallas. The real interesting stuff is like, not necessarily

585
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Speaker 2: his NBA comp but like, is the hype for him

586
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: to the point where he has to win like multiple

587
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Speaker 2: MVPs and championships or it's like, ah, this guy's a

588
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Speaker 2: bum I because I see Kevin Garnett. I know people

589
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Speaker 2: hate the you know, white black comparisons, but I just

590
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: see a tenacious competitor. Who remember this guy's he was

591
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Speaker 2: eighteen for most of the season dominating college.

592
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Speaker 3: Basketball and started off as seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm extremely bullish on Flag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually love the cross racial comparisons because it

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00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: forces you to think, like you have to think, Like

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: it's so easy to just say, you know, this guy

597
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: is this guy because they may look alike, or it's

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00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: so easy to compare European prospects to just European prospects.

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Speaker 3: So I actually love the Garnet comparison. Not as big

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Speaker 3: as Garnet, not as he's a competitor. Garnett was just

601
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: weirdly animated. But I like the fact that Flag has

602
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: just a lot of ways that he can impact the game.

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00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: He's actually been better than I thought. I was high

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Speaker 3: on him, but I didn't see him shooting thirty eight

605
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Speaker 3: and a half percent from three on a good volume.

606
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Speaker 3: So I think he's exceeded my expectations. I just hope

607
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 3: it's not a situation to where if he wins, like

608
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Speaker 3: like look at Anthony Davis for example, Anthony Davis has

609
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Speaker 3: won a championship, he's been all NBA, but coming out

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Speaker 3: of Kentucky, people were saying he's generational. This was even

611
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Speaker 3: before generational was thrown around all the time like it

612
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Speaker 3: is now. I think there was a quote where somebody

613
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Speaker 3: said that he's the best big since like Kareem O

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Speaker 3: dul Jabbar.

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Speaker 2: It's some crazy coming out coming out of Kentucky.

616
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Speaker 3: Coming out of Kentucky with some crazy quote, and Anthony

617
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Speaker 3: Davis has had a really good career, but I think

618
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Speaker 3: people aren't going to appreciate it. Of course, a lot

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Speaker 3: of this is because he's, you know, been banged up

620
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Speaker 3: and people questioned, you know, his durability. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think people really appreciate how good Anthony Davis is. And

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Speaker 3: I think Anthony Davis is a you know, A one,

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Speaker 3: A one B. I don't know if he's like your

624
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: top dog, your closer. He has the talent to be.

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Speaker 3: So with that being said, I think that, you know,

626
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Speaker 3: it could be unfortunate if people are putting this label

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Speaker 3: on Cooper that he has to have like multiple MVPs

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Speaker 3: and so on to to have a great career.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting note about Davis. So he was drafted

630
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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, right, that's right around the time that

631
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Speaker 2: the league started to pivot toward three pointers, right with

632
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Speaker 2: Harden and and then the Splash Brothers came up a

633
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: couple of years, really started to pop in a twenty fourteen,

634
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: so and the league is just right now. And the

635
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 2: weird part is Cooper Fly can do both. I mean

636
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: I saw him bringing the ball up against pressure in

637
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament and he's hitting threes. Anthony Davis knows

638
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Speaker 2: about that from tam usay like, I don't know what

639
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Flag can't do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ye, earlier in the year, like there were some

641
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: issues where he was to relyingt on his spin move,

642
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: like he got pretty predictable. But I just love the

643
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: way he's added to his game and one of the

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: things that he did that I think is very underrated.

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Speaker 3: His last year playing grassroots basketball, I remember people criticizing

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Speaker 3: him because he played sixteen U. He didn't play seventeens.

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Speaker 3: He played with his buddies from Maine. But that whole

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Speaker 3: summer he was on a team of guys that, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe low Division I prospects D two guys. But he

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Speaker 3: had to do everything for that team, and instead of

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Speaker 3: like training and working on his game, it was like

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Speaker 3: he spent a whole summer using defenders as live test dummies.

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Speaker 2: In a sense, he.

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Speaker 3: Played the point, he had to play every single position.

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Speaker 3: He could have easily went to a loaded, powerhouse AU

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Speaker 3: team and just kind of helped him win. But I

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Speaker 3: just felt like he used that team as a developmental

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Speaker 3: team to work on his passing and and work on

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Speaker 3: his playmaking. I think it paid off. That's why he

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Speaker 3: exceeded my expectations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he was. I mean the whole Zion versus

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Speaker 2: Coup of Flag thing, I I was. I was as

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Speaker 2: big of a fan of Zion as you'll find, and

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Speaker 2: I think I think Flag certainly had a better career

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Speaker 2: than Zion. Zion's highlights were amazing, but.

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Speaker 3: Moved the needle like Obama was going to Zion's games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's a different story. But like didn't

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Speaker 2: flag lead Duken literally every time of steels blocks.

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Speaker 3: I mean everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, anyways, Rafael Barlow, great stuff. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like draft is coming up, are you what

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Speaker 2: would you? How would you characterize it as excited nervous

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Speaker 2: because again I'm not going overboard. It seems like everybody's

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Speaker 2: got largely the same seven or eight guys and that

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Speaker 2: you know, that's never how it works out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just gonna be a wild night

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Speaker 3: simply because there's gonna be a lot of movement, a

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Speaker 3: lot of trades, a lot of the guys that you know,

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Speaker 3: people like myself are projecting to go to this team.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if that team is going to

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Speaker 3: be picking. I actually think the twenty twenty five NBA

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Speaker 3: Draft could be just as wild as the trade deadline

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Speaker 3: a few months ago, where there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: that happened where you're like, dang, I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be a very interesting night.

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Speaker 3: But I just think after like maybe pick three, it's

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Speaker 3: all in the eyes of the beholder. Somebody that most

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Speaker 3: people think is going to go at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the lottery could end up going four or five. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna be a crazy night. Good stuff, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Rafaeyel Big NBA, big board dot Com. Check that out.

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Speaker 2: He's all over the draft. Good stuff, man, Thanks a

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Speaker 2: lot

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on