1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show continues as you've been hearing, Charlie Kirk, 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the conservative activist and popular media personality, was a shot 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: to death, shot in the neck while he was on 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: stage hosting an event at Utah Valley University. And we 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: are going to have a press conference from authorities in 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Utah any minute now. Should have started already, but it hasn't, 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: and we'll bring you that instantly. Let's talk with Alex Stone, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: ABC News the latest what he knows. Alex, Hey there, John. Yeah, 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: we're waiting for that news conference to begin as well 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: right now. That the podium set up and they should 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: get going on that. But yeah, this was a midday. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: He had been at Utah Valley University in aorum outside 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: of Provo, and he was giving that speech as part 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: of this America comeback tour that he'd been doing. Now 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: was called Prove Me Wrong, the kickoff event for his 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Proved Me Wrong tour. But he was going to go 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: to Colorado and other places in Utah and go to 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: Minneapolis and Virginia. According to the website and turning point. 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: USA had said that they were having big turnouts in 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: their events in the spring that they were doing, and 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: that they were planning on this being a big event 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: as well, and there were a lot of people who 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: were there. Initially police saying, as you've been reporting, that 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: there was the shooter in custody. It appeared to have 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: been an older man who they took into custody, And 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: now they say that guy had nothing to do with 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: it and that he is not a suspect, and that 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: they have got nobody in custody at this point. But 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: just a lot of panic as this unfolded. These women 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: they were there. 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: He just everyone got down. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Everyone was so scared. 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: I heard a loud bang, which I figured a shot 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: would be a little bit louder. 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Just one shot straight in Charlie Kirk, it was. 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: That one shot a higher caliber weapon. According to guitar 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: experts who heard and saw what went on in the 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: video that has been up there, we know he was 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: taught about transgender issues, answering questions in that moment. He 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: had been earlier throwing T shirts and things out in 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the crowd. That this was part of this proved me 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: wrong to her, and he was in the middle of 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: the Q and A and then the one shot right 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: into it appeared more of his chest area, but witnesses 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: said also it was into his neck and that he 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: essentially died right there. And I have heard reports, and 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, you can never tell what's true in the 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: early hours that it maybe was somebody on a roof 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: hundreds of yards away. Yeah, the belief is that the 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: shooter had an advantage of elevation and from where the 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: shot came from. Now, there were a lot of people 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: in the crowd who said that they were really shocked 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: going in, that nobody had their bag searched, nobody was 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: looked over. That it was just kind of an open 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: event on campus, and it appears it was designed that way. 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: But based on where this shot came from, it doesn't 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: look like it was in the crowd, and looks like 61 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: it was a higher caliber rifle round that they came 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: from a rooftop or a balcony. There's a deck area 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: that's up above kind of where the audience was standing. 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: It looked like probably a little bit higher than that, 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: but that the shooter had the advantage of elevation and 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: fired and then apparently got out of there now that 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the police don't have anybody in custody. Obviously his views 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: are controversial. Were there a lot of protests? You know, 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: before the start of it. Was there a lot of 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: rancor in the audience? It was described to us probably 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I think sixty to seventy percent supporters and then you 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: had twenty thirty forty percent who were opponents who were 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: there to argue against him, and that there was nothing 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: indicating that it was going to get violent. Again, I mean, 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: this seems like more of a planned thing the way 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: it was carried out than a protester in the moment 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: doing something. But there were some there who were there, 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, being a college campus and not all that 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: surprising that there would be folks there to counter him. 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: But it was, according to those in attendance, overwhelming supporters 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: of his. All right, so momentarily we should have a 82 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: press conference and they'll start giving us some details. 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, any moment. 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: This is the sound inside that room right now, is 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: here everybody getting ready and the doors are starting to 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: open up, so hopefully in the next couple of minutes 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that the speakers will be going up there. 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: We understand that the governor and others are going to. 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Be speaking, all right, Alex Stone, ABC News, thank you 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: for coming out. 91 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: Thanks John. 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know we'll return to Alex uh 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: when necessary, and uh he'll be standing by at the 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 1: press conference and we're going to bring that to you live. 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA. You know, I 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm was aware of Charlie Kirk. I never followed him 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: or watched him very much. 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: He was more in a lane of you know, Christian 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: nationalism and religion. Obviously very very smart, talented guy at 101 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: a very young age. But I can't say that I 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: knew a whole lot about his movement other than the 103 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: obvious that he had put together a tremendous number of 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: followers to recruited them to support these causes. A big 105 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: supporter of Trump, A big turnout for Trump came from 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: his organizations and effect. If I remember correctly, when Elon 107 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Musk was spending a lot of money on voter turnout, 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Turning Point USA was one of the recipients. And some 109 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: conventional political professionals thought that that was kind of ridiculous 110 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: that they weren't doing it the old way. And it 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: turned out that giving money to Charlie. Charlie Kirk's organization 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: is the new right way to do this. It is 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: hard to explain, and I actually I do find this 114 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: as a generational difference. I think you may have heard 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago when Gavin Newsom was taught talking 116 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: about how two of his children were very excited that 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: their dad, Gavin was going to interview Charlie Kirk on 118 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Gavin's podcast and the Sun didn't want to go to school. 119 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: He's thirteen and he wanted to stay and meet Kirk. 120 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Is that I have noticed that older people still are 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: wrapped up in whatever CBS or CNN or ABC is doing. 122 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: And that's just not where it's at anymore. It's not 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal and New York Times of the 124 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: LA Times. You know, certainly we talk about their biases 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: at these organizations, but that's not where most people are 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: getting their news. They're getting their news. They're getting influenced 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: for their view with their views by guys like Charlie 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: Kirk and those podcasts and those especially the podcast video 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: and audio podcasts, and there's a lot of alternative online 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: news sources. Recently, over the years, I'm spending more time 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: reading those places because there isn't much left to the 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: traditional media, and even you know, if you open up 133 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: the La Times or on the website, rather there's only 134 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: a handful of new stories each day. Many of the 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: stories are half a day, a day, two days old 136 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: on their front page. And people got tired of the 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: incredible progressive bias, the left wing bias, and it's splintered 138 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: out into a thousand places, and you really really have 139 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: relatively small audiences watching local TV news, national newscasts. CNN 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: has withered away considerably. Fox is holding their own, but 141 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: of course they have their own particular way of presenting 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: the news that not everybody can deal with. So it's 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: it's a tough environment. It's more difficult gathering accurate information 144 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: these days, believe me, and knowing what to trust and 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: what's true. And there is not a there's not a 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: consensus news operation in the country that everybody trusts and 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: believes in, and a lot of them really deal in 148 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: bad faith on a daily basis, and we've talked about 149 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: that tremendously. So Kirk in his circles, is more influential 150 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: than most of the mainstream media networks or mainstream newspapers. 151 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: I went through how many millions and millions of people 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: are on his social media accounts. Believe me, it's way 153 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: more people than what is watching the NBC nightly News, 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: Way more people than is watching CNN at any given moment, 155 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: way more people than are subscribing to The New York 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: Times of the LA Times or even what you're seeing, well, 157 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: you can't see very much unless you subscribe online. And 158 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: there you know, the Times is profitable. Wall Street Journal 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: is profitable. Virtually no other mainstream newspaper style website is 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: profitable in the whole country. And the revenues for television 161 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: news have dwindled considerably. What's left is a tremendous number 162 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: of medication commercials, drug commercials. And why is that Because 163 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: it's older people, in some cases very old people, who 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: are still watching the news on television. All the action 165 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: is online on social media, and it's audio and video 166 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: podcasts on the Internet, and that is where all the 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: energy is coming from. And there's very little coming from 168 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: what used to be mainstream media. And you know, you 169 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: can talk for days and weeks and months as to 170 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: why that is. It doesn't matter why it is anymore. 171 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: That's the way it is. People you know under thirty 172 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: don't know of any other world. They don't know anything 173 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: about old style networks and old style mainstream newspapers. A 174 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: lot of older people still talk in those terms, and 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I find it's really striking how the two worlds are 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: far different and they don't really understand each other. But 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: the mainstream media's influence is really diminished significantly, and it's 178 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: guys like Charlie Kirk who are who had more and 179 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: more a larger role to play and how people view 180 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: the world. 181 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Are we are going to continue. 182 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: We are waiting on a news conference from Utah authorities 183 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: on Charlie Kirk getting assassinated on stage in Utah. 184 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: The conservative activists. 185 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 186 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: six forty. 187 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock and 188 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock. John Cobelt's show on demand on 189 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. Moistline for Friday is eight seven seven 190 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: mois staighty six eight seven seven Mois Steady six or 191 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: usually talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. And one big 192 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: missing piece of the story of Charlie Kirk, the conservative 193 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: activist and media personality. He got shot to death today 194 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: on stage from a bullet that came far away they 195 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: think maybe a couple of hundred yards from a rooftop 196 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: at Utah Valley University. And he was making an appearance. 197 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: His organization is called Turning Point USA. It organizes and 198 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: activates millions of people, especially young people, around the Country's 199 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: always on tour, appearing at colleges and other places. So 200 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: he was up on stage and doing his presentation when 201 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: a bullet hit him in the neck, got him, according 202 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: to the La Times, in the carotid artery, and he 203 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: was dead shortly thereafter. And the big missing piece is, well, 204 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: who did this? There is no news or even a 205 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: hint as to a suspect. It's hard to believe that 206 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: they don't have video cameras everywhere, and the police are 207 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: probably actively chasing down the shooter, but nothing has leaked 208 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: out so far. There was very briefly, and this was 209 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: in every major media story you know for a few minutes, 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: is that the police had gotten it turned out to 211 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: be an older guy. He had white hair on a 212 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: fringe bald, clearly elderly, and he was on his hands 213 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: and knees and the police said cuffed him and were 214 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: detaining him, and people were shouting at him, and he 215 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: was yelling about his rights, and so in that moment 216 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: it looked like he was the guy. It just it 217 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't look like he would be the guy. But that 218 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: lasted about five minutes and then the police said the 219 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: university said, no, no, he wasn't the guy. We don't 220 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: have a suspect. So unless they're going to announce something 221 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: in the next few minutes, and we're waiting still on 222 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: a press conference that was scheduled to start at three o'clock, 223 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: and we're monitoring everything, and we got Alex Stone from 224 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: ABC News there as well. We don't have even a 225 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: hint of who this was, or why they did it, 226 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: or exactly where they did it from. We are going 227 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: to talk with Jennifer Coffin Daffer coming up after three 228 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: point thirty unless the news conference is running. And Jennifer 229 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: has been a special agent with the FBI. She's worked 230 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: in law enforcement for almost thirty years and she specializes 231 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: in at the time in gangs, narcotics, organized crime, electronic surveillance, counterintelligence. 232 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: She resulted her work resulted in the disruption of the 233 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Crypts criminal street gang in Fort Worth and the dismantlement 234 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: of the Mediine cartel responsible for distributing thousands of kilos 235 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: of cocaine throughout the Midwest and the Northeast. 236 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: She is now. 237 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Working for a private security company and she also is 238 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: a law and justice contributor commentator for News Nation, has 239 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: been doing that for the last two years or so. 240 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: So if we don't have a press conference, we're going 241 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: to talk with Jennifer Coffendaffer as the world waits to 242 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: find out who did this, and the real danger is 243 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: is that this may start a tick for tat between 244 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: extremists on both sides, people trying to take out politicians 245 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: or media figures activists. Most of the Democrats in Los 246 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Angeles have come out publicly and said this is horrible. 247 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Karen Bass wrote on x I'm absolutely disgusted by today's 248 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: attack on Charlie Kirk. Political violence in all forms is 249 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: unacceptable and reprehensible. We must all reject it. We played 250 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the clips of the Gavin Newsom hosting Kirk on Newsome's 251 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: podcast a few months ago, and he says the attack 252 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile, reprehensible. In the United 253 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: States of America, we must reject violence in every form democratic. 254 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: Hey, John, We're going to go now to that news 255 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: conference on the desk of Charlie Kirk. 256 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Vice President Val Peterson, who's been in touch with President 257 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: to menace, and then we'll hear from kevinra Cox. 258 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 7: I'll turn the time over to mister Mason. 259 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: Hello, everyone, I'm Bou Mason, Commissioner for the Utah Department 260 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: of Public Safety. Today, at approximately twelve to twenty Mountain 261 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: standard time, political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot. 262 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 7: In an event at the Utah Valley University. 263 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: He was taken by private vehicle to Timpanoga's Hospital, where 264 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: he later passed. The Utah Department of Public Safety will 265 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: be co leading the criminal investigation to find this killer 266 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We're working in 267 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: unison with the County Sheriff's office, the local police department, 268 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: and the university Police department, all of which have been 269 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: very cooperative and fully engaged in this process. Shortly after 270 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: the shooting, we did have a suspect in custody, George Zen, 271 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: but he was released from custody after we identified that 272 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: he did not match the shooting suspect and was not 273 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: an accurate person of interest. 274 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 7: However, he has. 275 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: Been booked into the County Jail by Utah v University 276 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: Police Department for obstruction of justice. We do still have 277 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: an active investigation for the person of interest. This incident 278 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: occurred with a large crowd round. There was one shot 279 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: fired and one victim. While the suspect is at large, 280 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: we believe this was a targeted attack towards one individual. 281 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: There's a tragic moment in our state and in our 282 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: country as we hear. We encourage everyone who's struggling with 283 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: news of the incident to call nine and eight our 284 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: state a mental health across crisis line. 285 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 7: In addition to that. 286 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: Our partners with the FBI will also be discussing other 287 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: ways we can communicate through the public for tips and 288 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 4: other information. 289 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 7: Thank you, good afternoon. 290 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: On behalf of the FBI, We extend our sincerest condolences 291 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: to the family and friends of Charlie Kirk. Our thoughts 292 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: are also with the people who witnessed this traumatic event. 293 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: We know that what you experienced was very difficult. Our 294 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: thoughts are with you as well. As soon as we 295 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: heard about the shooting, special agents and personnel from the 296 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: Salt Lake Field Office responded immediately. We have full resources 297 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: devoted to this investigation, including tactical, operational, investigative, and intelligence. 298 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: To be clear, the FBI will fully support and co 299 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: lead this investigation alongside with our partners. We are working 300 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: on setting up a digital media tip line, and as 301 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: soon as it's established, we'll get that information out to everyone. 302 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 7: I know. There's a lot of questions. 303 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: This is very much an active case, and this investigation 304 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: is in its early stages. We are following all the 305 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: leads and all the evidence. If anyone has any information, 306 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: please report it to the FBI or local law enforcement. 307 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 8: Thank you. 308 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 9: On behalf of President Tuman Is who we've been communicating with, 309 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 9: and she's on her way back right now. 310 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 7: I say that. 311 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 9: On behalf of Utah Valley University, we are shocked and 312 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 9: saddened by the tragic passing of Charlie Kirk. We express 313 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 9: our sincere condolences to the Kirk family. We agree with 314 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 9: our students, faculty, and staff who were witness to this 315 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 9: unspeakable tragedy. He was invited by the student group Turning 316 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 9: Point USA to speak on our campus. 317 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: We firmly believe that UVU is a place. 318 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 10: To share ideas and to debate openly and respectfully. 319 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 7: Any attempt to infringe on those rights has no place here. 320 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 10: We do not condone any form of violence at UVU 321 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 10: and seek to make our campus a safe place for all. 322 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen. 323 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 11: Thank you for joining us on this dark and tragic occasion. 324 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 11: I want to thank our law enforcement officers who are 325 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 11: leading this investigation, starting with Chief Long and his response 326 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 11: here with the UVU Police Department. We're grateful for your 327 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 11: leadership and your team, and again to the speakers that 328 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 11: you've just heard from who are co leading this investigation. 329 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 11: I also want to recognize Sherip Mike Smith, who has 330 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 11: been in valuable partner as this investigation moves forward. I've 331 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 11: been in touch with President Trump, with FBI Director Cash Patel. 332 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 11: We are completely aligned with our state and federal partners 333 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 11: as we work through this case. 334 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 7: Now, this is a dark day for our state. 335 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 11: It's a tragic day for our nation, and I want 336 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 11: to be very clear that this is a political assassination. 337 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: We are. 338 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 11: Celebrating two hundred and fifty years of the founding of 339 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 11: this great nation. That founding document, the Declaration of independence, 340 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 11: that this great experiment on which we embark together two 341 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 11: hundred and fifty years ago, that we are endowed by 342 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 11: our creator with certain unalienable rights. The first one of 343 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 11: those is life, and today a life was taken. Charlie 344 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 11: Kirk was first and. 345 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 7: Foremost a husband and a dad to young children. He 346 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 7: was also. 347 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 11: Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here 348 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 11: on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech 349 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 11: and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. 350 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 7: Historically, our university. 351 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 11: Campuses in this nation and here in the state of 352 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 11: Utah have been the place where truth and ideas are 353 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 11: formulated and debated. And that's what he does. He comes 354 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 11: on college campuses and he debates as foundational to the 355 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 11: formation of our country, to our most basic constitutional rights. 356 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 11: And when someone takes the life of a person because 357 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 11: of their ideas or their ideals, then that very constitutional 358 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 11: foundation is threatened. Now we have a person of interest 359 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 11: in custody. The investigation is ongoing, but I want to 360 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 11: make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this, 361 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 11: we will find you, we will try you, and we 362 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 11: will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law, 363 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 11: and I just want to remind people that we still 364 00:22:50,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 11: have the death penalty here in the state of Utah. 365 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 7: Our nation is broken. We've had. 366 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 11: Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination 367 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 11: on the governor of Pennsylvania, and we had an attempted 368 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 11: assassination on a presidential candidate and former president of the 369 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 11: United States and now current President of. 370 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 7: The United States. 371 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 11: Nothing I say can unit us as a country. Nothing 372 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 11: I can say right now can fix what is broken. 373 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 11: Nothing I can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our 374 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 11: hearts are broken. 375 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 7: We mourn. 376 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 11: With his wife, his children, his family, his friends. We 377 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 11: mourn as a nation. If anyone, in the sound of 378 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 11: my voice celebrated even a little bit at. 379 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 7: The news of this shooting, I would beg you to 380 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 7: look in the mirror. 381 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 11: And to see if you can find a better angel 382 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 11: in there somewhere. I don't care what his politics are. 383 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 11: I care that he was an American. We desperately need 384 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 11: our country. We desperately need leaders in our country. But 385 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 11: more than the leaders, we just need every single person 386 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 11: in this country to think about where we are and 387 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 11: where we want to be, to ask ourselves. Is this 388 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 11: what two hundred and fifty years has wrought on us? 389 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 11: I pray that that's not the case. I pray that 390 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 11: those who hated what Charlie Cooks stood for will put 391 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 11: down their social media and their pens and pray for 392 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 11: his family, and that all of us, all of us 393 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 11: will try to find a way to stop painting our 394 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 11: fellow Americans. 395 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 7: With that, we're happy to take a few questions. 396 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 6: The FBI director is posting that is social that a 397 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: suspect is in custody, which is like clarification, do you 398 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 6: or do you not have a suspective shooter in customer? 399 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 11: We have a person of interest in custody that is 400 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 11: being interviewed right now. 401 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 8: It's not George Zam. 402 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 7: That is not George Zim. That is correct. 403 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 10: Are you still associated if we're looking for another shooter 404 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 10: or anybody. 405 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 11: Else for latedviews, Yes, we are actively looking for anyone 406 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 11: and everyone who has any any possible information relating to 407 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 11: the shooting. 408 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: Can you tell us details about the suspect. 409 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 8: Being taken into custody, where the how long ago? 410 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 11: We cannot at this point, but we will get you 411 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 11: that information when when we can. 412 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 7: Is there believe to be. 413 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 8: A second individual involved in the shooting. 414 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 11: At this point, there is no information that would lead 415 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 11: us to believe that there is a second person involved. 416 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 7: The possible shooting. 417 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 11: We want to talk about what we know there. 418 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: The only information we have on the suspect the possible 419 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: shooter is taken from close Servit TV here on campus. 420 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 7: We do have that. We're analyzing it. 421 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: But it is security camera footage, so you can you 422 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: can kind of guess what the quality of that is. 423 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: But we do know dressed in all all dark clothing. 424 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: We don't have much better description other than that the 425 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: shot came from here on campus, from a location. 426 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 7: At a fair. 427 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: Potentially from a roof, Yes, a longer distance shot from a. 428 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 6: Roof, so clarified with the security camera foot that you 429 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: have and the personal interests that's in custody. 430 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 7: To those, does that achu That's what we're trying to 431 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: decipher right now. 432 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: So did an FBI or DH said anything on the 433 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 4: threatboard this morning? 434 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 7: I can't speak that. 435 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: I'll just say that the investigation is ongoing and as 436 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: soon as we have further information, we will be sure 437 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: to release it. 438 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: Any Kassu foreign intelligence. 439 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 8: Involvement as now, I can't comment on any of that. 440 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 7: Hi, you can. 441 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 6: You talk a little bit about the security of an 442 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 6: event itself, but who was there, security wives and what happens. 443 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 7: On these kind of events that shooting fun So my 444 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 7: name is Jeff Long. 445 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 6: I'm the police chief here at UVU, and I'll tell 446 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: you right now, we are devastated. We're a small, small 447 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 6: police department. We have a very large campus. We have 448 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: over forty thousand students, and we love our students, we 449 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 6: love our visitors, and we're devastated by what happened today. 450 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: This is the police chief's nightmare. I'm very saddened for 451 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 6: the Kirk family. I know his uh, his wife and 452 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 6: parents uh found out about this. You know, obviously he's 453 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 6: away from home, he's here in Utah. They find out 454 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 6: by police officer that visits their home. 455 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 7: That's tragic. 456 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 6: Nobody wants that. But I can tell you about our 457 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 6: venue today. This was an open venue. This is outside. 458 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 6: We did have six officers work in that event. We 459 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 6: had probably over three thousand people that were in attendance 460 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 6: sat down in kind of a bowl area here on 461 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: the Civiral campus. We have a waterfall area and so 462 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 6: he was kind of in a lower area surrounded by 463 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 6: by buildings. You know, we had uh some playing closed 464 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 6: police officers that were in the crowd as well. You know, 465 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 6: we trained for these things and you think, you know, 466 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 6: you have things covered, and you know these things you know, 467 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 6: unfortunately they happen. You try to get you try to 468 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 6: get your bases covered, and unfortunately today we didn't and 469 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 6: because of that we had this tragic incident. So we 470 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 6: have officers there. We had Charlie Kirk's team. 471 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 8: He has a. 472 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 6: Security team that travels with him and they were here 473 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 6: with him when when he when he was shot. I'm 474 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 6: sorry see the weapon recovery. I at this point I 475 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 6: can't disclose that shot. 476 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 9: There was a question being asked about mass shooting. 477 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Was that person apprehended? 478 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 7: And do you know who asked that question? 479 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: Say a question again? I don't know what if I 480 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 8: discover Sam why. 481 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk's shot. 482 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: He was answering a question about mass shooting specifically, was 483 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: that person attended? 484 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 7: And do you know who asked that question? 485 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 8: I do not. 486 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 6: We do not have that at this moment, ladies and gentlemen, 487 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 6: we have time for just one more question, so thank you. 488 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the question with the chief as well. 489 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 8: Was it your team or Kirks team. 490 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 6: Or a combination of both that kind of set the 491 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 6: security protocol. 492 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 7: For the event. 493 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 8: So we worked together. You know, he has his team 494 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 8: and they do this all of the country. We all 495 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 8: know that this is not uncom for them. Uh, They're 496 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 8: very comfortable on campuses. 497 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 6: And I was coordinating with his lead security guy and 498 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 6: uh so, yeah, we were working together. 499 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 7: Was this a sh shooter type of shots this, ladies. 500 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 11: And gentlemen, that's that's Those are all the questions that 501 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 11: we will be answered today. 502 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 7: Again, thank you for for covering this. Uh, we will. 503 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 11: Be We'll be updating you as soon as we have 504 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 11: additional information through through normal channels working with law enforcement. Again, 505 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 11: are our deepest condolences to the to the Kirk family 506 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 11: and and to the. 507 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 7: Students who were who were there today. 508 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 11: And uh, I would I would just ask everyone everywhere 509 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 11: to please pray for their family and uh and to 510 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 11: pray for our country and we need it now more 511 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 11: than ever. 512 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, the governor of Utah. All right, they're walking 513 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: off stage here. 514 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 11: Uh. 515 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: That was the press conference in Utah law enforcement officials 516 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: giving some information over the Charlie Kirk assassination. Charlie Kirk, 517 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: the conservative political activist and media personality and top advisor 518 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, gunned down while on stage at Utah 519 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: Valley University in orem Utah, in front of hundreds of 520 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: people who gathered in an outdoor amphitheater like setting, and 521 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: he was on stage under a canopy and he was 522 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: doing a question and answer with the audience. His organization 523 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: is Turning Point USA, and he's constantly on tour, having 524 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: often these college appearances, and somebody shot him in the neck. 525 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Blood spurted everywhere. They took him to the hospital quickly, 526 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: but he died in the hospital, and it was There's 527 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: been conflicting reports ever since it happened, and it was 528 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: a little confusing trying to follow their presentation at this 529 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: press conference. The FBI director Cash Patel has posted on 530 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: social media that a suspect has been taken into custody. 531 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: There was a guy that I mentioned before, an older 532 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: man with glasses. He was bald with white fringe for hair, 533 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: and he was on his knees and cuffed by police 534 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: and he was shouting about his rights and people were 535 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: shouting at him, and it looked like he was a suspect. 536 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: Now he is in custody, and I assume he's a 537 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: different guy. He was charged with obstruction of justice, so 538 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: said law enforcement officials, and that they didn't consider him 539 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: to be the shooter. So it wasn't particularly clear there 540 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: the way they presented it. I'm looking at a New 541 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: York Times story and they have Cash Pattel saying that 542 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: a suspect has been taken into custody. There are if 543 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: you've seen video or photos of the shooting, you'll see 544 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: people running from the event after Kirk was shot on stage, 545 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: his head jerking back as blood poured from his neck. 546 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: There is rooftop video recorded before and after the shooting 547 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: showing a person on the roof of the loc Center, 548 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: which is about one hundred and fifty yards from where 549 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: Clark where Kirk was on stage. In one video, an 550 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: onlooker says they saw somebody run across the roof and 551 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: lie down, pointing out the visible outline of the person. 552 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: In a second video, the person can be seen rushing 553 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: away from that spot immediately after the shooting. We will 554 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: continue covering this. 555 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 556 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: six forty we're on. 557 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: From one in till four and after four o'clock. Excuse me, 558 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: we have the podcast John Belt Show on demand. Obviously, 559 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: the whole show today was on the Charlie Kirk murder. 560 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: And there's conflicting statements being made by officials, as I 561 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: mentioned right before the commercial break, and I've been looking 562 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: at all the news feeds I can find, and the 563 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Utah Governor, Spencer Cox said, and this came across five 564 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: minutes ago. At this point, there's no information that would 565 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: lead us to believe that there's a second person involved. 566 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: They're actively looking for people, the governor said. The authorities 567 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: have a person of interest in custody that's being interviewed 568 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: right now. Cash Btel has posted on social media the 569 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: FBI director that the suspect who killed Kirk had been 570 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: taken into custody. At the news conference, Utah law enforcement 571 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: officials described the individual and custody only as a person 572 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: of interest who is being interviewed about the shooting. So 573 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: not quite as definitive as what cash Ptel is say 574 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: is saying. And it's still not explained whether the person 575 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: in custody is that older man that was seen in 576 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: videos on his knees handcuffed by police. He's been charged 577 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: with obstruction of justice. They had said he was not 578 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: the suspect of the shooting. That he's being charged with 579 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: something not directly related. He did apparently put up some resistance. 580 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: Maybe he's the same guy that they suspect is the shooter. 581 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 582 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: There was nothing in the statements that the law enforcement 583 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: officials made that cleared that up. 584 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: And there's. 585 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: What Cashpateel wrote is just that they have a custody 586 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: suspect and custody. It's just not clear. And what the 587 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: governor said is there's there's a somebody being interviewed, so 588 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, it's obviously seems to be, you know, 589 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: one guy obviously did the shot. They saw one guy 590 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: roaming around on the roof or crawling on the roof, 591 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: and they do have video, but the police officials said 592 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: it's grainy close circuit TV video, so the quality is 593 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: not wonderful. And he was dressed in black clothing. And 594 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: that's all they have right now that they're willing to 595 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: share publicly. Obviously they know a lot more, and they 596 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: gave reporters basically one possible headline that there is. Depending 597 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: on who you're talking to, it's either a person of 598 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: interest or a suspect, and he either is considered the 599 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: shooter or he's just considered someone they want to talk 600 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: to about the shooting. I think that's the way to 601 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: sum the whole thing up. Well, obviously a lot more 602 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: will come out, and this is uh, this is this 603 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: is bad because there are a lot of extremists out there. 604 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: There are a lot of insane people. I can't imagine 605 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: what's being whipped up on the Internet and on social 606 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: media about this. And you know, this could this could 607 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: start a tip for tat warfare. It's just people have 608 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: gotten insane and the social media and and instant media 609 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: is just making everybody crazy, absolutely crazy. 610 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: We'll talk more coming up. 611 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: We've got Conway next, and Heather Brooker has the news 612 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've 613 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 614 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: always hear the show live on KFI Am six forty 615 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 616 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.