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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm one of your celebrity mentors, Bob Geinny,

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Speaker 2: and I'm very excited today because I have Jonathan Rone

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Speaker 2: of course from Jones season of the Golden Bachelorette, and Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you back.

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Speaker 2: God, you've recently been in the news a little bit lately,

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Speaker 2: right with all the stuff going on, and I know

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Speaker 2: you had.

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Speaker 1: I know you had a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of a little bit of you know, relationship woes recently.

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Speaker 2: But before we get into any of that stuff, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 2: I Do Part two is a show that's geared around

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Speaker 2: people realizing that there is life after divorce, right or

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Speaker 2: life after our relationship ends. And I think maybe for

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Speaker 2: people who didn't watch, you know, your season of the

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Speaker 2: Golden Bachelorette and things of that new sure they might

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Speaker 2: not know that how you ended up on that show

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Speaker 2: was that, you know, you you had a relationship that

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Speaker 2: split up, that you were into in for quite some time,

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Speaker 2: and you know, tell us tell us a little bit

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Speaker 2: about that, about you know, what got you to the

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Speaker 2: point where you had a chance to find love the

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Speaker 2: second time around.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you know what I was. I was out there,

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Speaker 3: you know, a single guy, you know, on the dating gaps,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I, I guess my my my pictures

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Speaker 3: attracted you know a certain I guess interest or something

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Speaker 3: like that, and you know, I was, Uh, I was

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Speaker 3: contacted and thought about, you know, what do you think

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Speaker 3: about being on the show with the Golden Bachelorette. And

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Speaker 3: it came. It came out of the blue. So I

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Speaker 3: was completely blown away. And I thought about it a

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Speaker 3: couple of times, and I thought about how much time

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Speaker 3: I would have to take off work. Do I really

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Speaker 3: want to put myself out there, so to speak like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, on on national TV looking for love? Because

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Speaker 3: you know I'm I'm a pretty private guy. And so

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Speaker 3: that was a big up for me to consider. And

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Speaker 3: I actually said no a couple of times, but then

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Speaker 3: I was I looked at it as that, you know what,

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Speaker 3: this is once in a lifetime opportunity. The opportunity came

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Speaker 3: to me for a reason, and so I was open

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Speaker 3: to explore that. And so I went through the process.

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Speaker 3: I signed on, and I opened myself up to to

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Speaker 3: see if I could find that that chance of love again.

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Speaker 3: And what a way to do it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, definitely not a little more. You know.

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Speaker 2: I used to always say to people when they say,

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Speaker 2: you know, did you go on all the dating apps

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Speaker 2: and stuff? I said, no, I find love the old

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Speaker 2: fashioned way on television shows.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do.

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Speaker 2: But what led you up to that? I mean, had

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Speaker 2: you how long have you been married previously before you

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Speaker 2: got divorced? Like what was what was your story there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I was married in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 3: and prior to prior to meeting my my wife at

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Speaker 3: the time, I was single for two years. I just

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Speaker 3: needed to get out of the dating world and quit

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Speaker 3: you know, falling in falling in love and in out

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Speaker 3: of love and things like that. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: get myself together, get my heart together, my spirit together,

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Speaker 3: just like you know, just what what are some really

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Speaker 3: his dreams. And so, after two years, a friend of

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Speaker 3: at first sight for me, and so we dated for

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Speaker 3: about ten and a half months. I proposed in Jamaica

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Speaker 3: and she said she said yes, and so so that

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Speaker 3: was it. So we were married for gosh, close to

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Speaker 3: seven years, had two kids at the time of the divorce.

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Speaker 3: You know, my daughter was I think around six, my

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Speaker 3: We're but we're really close family now and the kids

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Speaker 3: are doing great. But after my divorce, I mean I

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Speaker 3: I think my heart and spirit healed and I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I gosh, what would it be like

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Speaker 3: think that was like a year and a half or

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Speaker 3: two years before I actually got on the first dating app,

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Speaker 3: which was a Christian Mingo dating app, and okay, end

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Speaker 3: up getting Catfish my first tryouts.

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Speaker 1: No way, you did not.

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Speaker 3: Actually I actually sent money to Ghana.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, you got to explain this to me, because

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Speaker 2: I've seen the show on MTV. How did you get Catfish?

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Speaker 2: You're a smart guy, clearly, you're you know, you're you're

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're you're pretty guarded with you know, your

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Speaker 1: I mean, how did you end up getting into that situation?

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Speaker 3: Well? You know what, I I had never heard of

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Speaker 3: what Catfish was before I never knew about the show

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. So, you know, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I went on Christian Mingo was what it was, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I was thinking, you know, if I'm looking for

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Speaker 3: core values of Christianity because I'm you know, grew up

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Speaker 3: have those core values. And so I was attracted to

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Speaker 3: and I told the guys at work, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: just cracking up. They're like, man, you got Catfish. You're

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Speaker 3: getting catfish? And I'm like, what is that? And so

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Speaker 3: I checked out the show Catfish and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 3: sent the money, I figured that I was I was Catfish.

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Speaker 3: Because this person man or woman behind this behind the

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Speaker 3: me account information, so I knew. I was like, you

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Speaker 2: So well that's the word. Now do you mind me

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Speaker 2: asking how much money did you send?

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Speaker 3: It was like sixty bucks?

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank god? Okay, So and Bob, here's here's the

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Speaker 3: I had did a I had did a a modeling,

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Speaker 2: So oh my god, you know I mean that that

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Speaker 2: probably changes the way you do things now. Now you're

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Speaker 2: immediately on the dating app first person, You're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we can FaceTime.

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Speaker 1: Let's FaceTime right now? Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, you know what after the show,

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Speaker 2: Do you how do your kids feel about you being

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Speaker 2: back in the dating world. I mean, obviously you seem

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Speaker 2: whether they're thinking about going through divorce or whether they're

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Speaker 2: going through it, I always say, Look, I'm just going

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Speaker 2: if you want, even if you're the person that wants

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Speaker 2: the divorce, trust me, and I tell you it sucks

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Speaker 2: because there's always there's always regret, there's always heartbreak, there's

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Speaker 2: always especially with children involved. I can't you know, I

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Speaker 2: so I can't even imagine how the stakes are so

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Speaker 1: And it just hurts, right, I mean, no matter how

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's a certain I was just thinking about

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Speaker 3: I think as a as a father, you know, because

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Speaker 3: you know what I thought of us being a whole

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Speaker 3: so being being a single father so to speak. Is

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely back at myself now, uh, something will happen

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I get that. I get that totally.

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Speaker 3: That's where the humility and acceptance and accepting life on

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Speaker 3: life terms comes in and you just, yeah, just move forward.

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Speaker 1: Man, You're such a sweetheart of a guy. Man.

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Speaker 2: I I was I was happy to hear when I

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Speaker 2: when I heard that you were in a relationship earlier

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Speaker 1: But part of me now now.

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Speaker 2: Knowing that it didn't quite work out, and and you know,

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Speaker 2: are you are you disappointed that you know that you

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Speaker 2: missed out on some opportunities like you know, vaster and

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Speaker 2: of you kind of if I'm not mistaken, you said

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Speaker 2: that's why you didn't want to go do that other show, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the Bachelor in Paradise said, I said no

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Speaker 3: our relationship ended like the first of the year. Five

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Speaker 3: has just not been my year. Yes, that's how That's

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Speaker 3: how it started off. And so at the time that

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Speaker 3: heartbreak and you know I felt that that, you know,

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Speaker 3: being in Paradise, it just wasn't sitting well with me.

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Speaker 3: And you know what is like, you know, Bob, to

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, I mean, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the opportunity of being asked like that, but

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Speaker 3: being on the Golden Bachelorette, that opportunity was a once

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Speaker 3: in a lifetime opportunity for me, and I genuinely believed

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Speaker 3: find love and it didn't work out that way. And

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Speaker 3: so I guess I would say I would be disingenuous

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Speaker 3: It was a blessed journey. But that blurt that journey

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Speaker 2: Well, you know I, I guess it's probably the best

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Speaker 2: I was calling to tell you that we were going

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you never know. Man, maybe second time or

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Speaker 2: So I mean, if they were to call you and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, I will say, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: Like I knew after doing that show.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, it is possible.

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Speaker 2: Let's think about the fact that many years later, because

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Speaker 1: And that may very well be out there waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, twenty twenty five, like you said, was not

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Speaker 1: But you know, we got hey, we got the holidays

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Speaker 2: it's kind of weird. So sometimes it's like, you know,

437
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: I need to pump the brakes on this part of

438
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: my life for a minute, and I'll come back to it.

439
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 2: So I respect that.

440
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 3: It's almost like, you know, it's a it's a reality

441
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: TV show, but it's not reality, you know, because it's

442
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: in a certain sense it's not reality. And then you know,

443
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: if you do find love and you're and you you

444
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: have a relationship, then that becomes the reality. But then

445
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: outside of that, it's like you know, when I when

446
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 3: I go into the Dollar the you know, to the

447
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: local stores here in town, and and every now and then,

448
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: as time has passed, someone will say, hey, aren't weren't

449
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 3: you the guy? Weren't you the guy on the golden

450
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: on the Golden betsurette? And that feels good. Yeah, it

451
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: almost it almost takes me out of my reality, so

452
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: to speak, and it makes me jump back into that

453
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: that work. And it's like, you know what, but I

454
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: but I don't get me wrong, I do like to

455
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 3: be uh. I like the recognition every now and then.

456
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: I like the spotlight.

457
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: I think I think anybody who says they don't, I mean,

458
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: there's only one guy and this is God's honest truth,

459
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: one human being. I say guy because I'll go guy,

460
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: because I don't know the women as well from the

461
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 2: different seasons.

462
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: But one guy that I've ever met.

463
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: In the history of this franchise, and I've been around

464
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 2: since the first season of the Bacherette and the fourth

465
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: season of The Bachelor, only one that I can say

466
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: genuinely does not want any recognition, genuinely.

467
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: Skirts away from it. And that's Trista's husband, Ryan Sutter.

468
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: Ryan is one of the few guys and if you

469
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: meet him, you'll you'll see this.

470
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: He's he's not like Anti. It's just he doesn't need it.

471
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: And the rest of us kind of feed off of

472
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: it a little bit, like I love like my wife

473
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: will go does it ever get.

474
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: Old for you? And I'm like, no, everyone's always so nice.

475
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, it's fun, it's it's engaging,

476
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: it keeps me, you know.

477
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, Ryan doesn't need it, like

478
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: Trista and I will go to events with Ryan and

479
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: my wife and the two.

480
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Of them will go off and watch us walk.

481
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: The red carpet and do our thing, and and it's funny,

482
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 2: you know, so I get it. It's like it's like,

483
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: you know, and who knows, maybe I was going to

484
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: ask you two questions about this the person you're seeing,

485
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: and obviously we're gonna keep that kind of low key.

486
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 2: Do you think the two of you have a lot

487
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: of similarities from personality perspective? Is she even more private

488
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: than you? Is she more out there than you? More

489
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: personality like what is what is the vibe there? Oh?

490
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely more definitely more private. And it's like, you

491
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: know what, as you know, and she has she has

492
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: such a wonderful heart. It's like, you know what she

493
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: she looked and considered she put in consideration of you know,

494
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, I'm still associated with the show. I've still

495
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 3: got like fourteen fifteen thous or gosh, fifteen thousand followers,

496
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: like you said that are mostly women, and so there's yeah, yeah,

497
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: so she has to she's dealt with that, you know,

498
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 3: and uh and the anxiety that she's gotten from that,

499
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: and so her heart went out to you know, previous

500
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: you know, my previous relationship. You know that that the

501
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: anxiety that she probably went through. And and I never

502
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: really looked at it from that perspective because I'm like,

503
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: I was enjoying the limelight. I enjoyed like putting myself

504
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: out there. But she, uh, she made it. She made

505
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: me look at it this way. Well what is yeah,

506
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: what if the shoes were on the other foot and

507
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: she was She's got fifteen thousand guys that are messenger

508
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: telling her, you know, how hot she looks and things

509
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: like that, How would I feel? And I never thought

510
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: of it that way? And so, uh so we have

511
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: the mutual respect and understanding about that, and uh yeah,

512
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: that's a really really core value that we do have

513
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: that with each other.

514
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: No, that's nice.

515
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, that's one

516
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: of those things you kind of got to have some

517
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: type of agreement and understanding, you know, like there definitely

518
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: is additional pressures there, there's no question you know.

519
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: So I definitely I understand that.

520
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: It's one of these things that I've learned it even

521
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: in my golden years. Is sixty two boundaries, Yeah, considered

522
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: boundaries and how important boundaries are. And that's a boundary

523
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: you know when a woman, when a woman opens her

524
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: heart up to you and wants to open up more

525
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: to you, and you got to know what the boundaries are.

526
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's nice. Yeah, it's nice to be respectful

527
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: of that. I mean, you know, so that's that's obviously

528
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: something that people need to take more seriously. Let's get

529
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: into a couple of just lighthearted questions because I know

530
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: you've been around a little bit.

531
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Now, you've dated a lot.

532
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to hear what your thoughts are

533
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: on this. So you know, obviously, people as we get older,

534
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: I'm fifty four, you're sixty two. People as we get older,

535
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: things shift, right, things get a little bit different for

536
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: us after a certain age. What are some things that

537
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: you think in your experience of dating? Obviously, I think

538
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: boundaries is one of them that that should be more important,

539
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: right and and and recognizing those and respecting those. What

540
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: are some things after the age of fifty while dating

541
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: that you think people should lighten up a little bit on,

542
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: Like are there any things that you encountered where you

543
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: were just like what are you doing? You know, like

544
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: let it go or or anything like that that maybe

545
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: kind of struck you as after a certain age, we

546
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: should probably kind of chalk that one up.

547
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: Anything anything out there that makes you think like that.

548
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: Gosh, you know what I think I think maybe the

549
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 3: intentionality I think, you know, I think if you if

550
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: you if you want to go into a relationship or

551
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: going to the dating world, know what your intentions are?

552
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 3: Are you looking for are you looking to date? Are

553
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: you looking to date around? You know, and that person,

554
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 3: that other person needs to know that if they're open,

555
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: if they're open for that, then that kind of leads

556
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: to lightheartedness.

557
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

558
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: But then there's the intentionality is like, you know what,

559
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: are you looking to get married? That changes the whole

560
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: that changes the whole script of things, you know, And

561
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: so like I was thinking about intentionality the other day.

562
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: I don't even know why I think about Sometimes I

563
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: think about metaphors. They helped me like put things in perspective.

564
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: I was thinking intentionality as far as like getting married

565
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: or finding someone to marry is almost like, you know,

566
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: when you book a plane somewhere the most the most

567
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: romantic destination you want to go to. Are you going

568
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: to book direct are you gonna are you gonna have

569
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: connecting flights for me? For me? Intentionality, if you're looking

570
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: to find that one person, it's almost like booking a

571
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: direct flight. You know what you know, you know point A,

572
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: you know point B. So I'm at the point now

573
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: that at sixty two with you know, with with dating

574
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: before married and then getting divorced, and then dating after divorce,

575
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: and then the relationships after the show. I'm not looking

576
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: for connecting flights. I'm not looking for baggage. I'm not

577
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: looking to see if I'm going to lose any luggage

578
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: in the transition. I'm looking for a direct a direct.

579
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Flight, direct flight. Yeah, you're going point A to point B.

580
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: I like that, I mean, and that's true.

581
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, I've often said a lot about like with

582
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: the Golden Franchise one of the things, like for example,

583
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: with UH with Gary and Teres for example, where I

584
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: thought they kind of you know, missed on it was I.

585
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Thought, man, you know why?

586
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: And here again, I mean, it's obviously something that's important

587
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: to you too, Like it sounds like you do want

588
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: to be married again, or you you at least want

589
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: to have that that committed companionship with someone, you know.

590
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 2: For them, I was like, they got grandkids, you know,

591
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in different places, Like it's gonna be really hard to

592
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: get married and leave your grandkids. Like you know, I

593
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: guess every situation is different, and everybody's different with what

594
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: they need of a relationship, and you know, those things

595
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: have to be weighed and measured, and you have to

596
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: think about them and like you said, they have to

597
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: be respected. When you hear people say things like like

598
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: kind of superfluous things like oh, you know, I would

599
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: not date a guy who's under six foot and I

600
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: will not date a guy who's you know, over seventy.

601
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: You know, do you think that kind of stuff. Isn't

602
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: that getting kind of ridiculous at this point? Or do

603
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: you think that it's one of those things where love

604
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: is love and if you find it, you find it

605
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: and you're lucky no matter how it's packaged.

606
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. I think it is pretty ridiculous

607
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: if you put those kind of like measures on yourself,

608
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: because yeah, you may be looking, you may be cutting

609
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: out the great opportunity to meet the best person in

610
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: your life, you know. Yeah, And like you said, love love,

611
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: love is love and love love knows. I mean, once

612
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: once Cupid draws back, that arrow man knee shoots, just

613
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: like you know what, you don't know what hits you,

614
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: and you you might be looking for the specific person height, age,

615
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: hair color, and then all of a sudden someone comes

616
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: out of the blue and you're like, what the what

617
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: the hell happened?

618
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, sound think that's what happened to you. You

619
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: were you were pretty much bound to termined. Twenty twenty

620
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: five was going to be a disaster. Oh and now

621
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: you've kind of already started that turnaround process.

622
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: And it sounds like finding someone special. And you know,

623
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know with the age your kids.

624
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: Are at too. Now, I've kind of I'm a pretty

625
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: good math guy. So I'm guessing there what late teens.

626
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: Probably my my daughter, My daughter is seventeen, she's a

627
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 3: senior in high school now, and yeah, she and her

628
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: team are killing it on the volleyball court. They're thirty

629
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: six and so far this year on the feat, you

630
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: haven't even lost one set.

631
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

632
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: My son is thirteen, he's going to be fourteen here

633
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: next month, and he's in the seventh grade. So yeah,

634
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: they are growing and and yeah, so it's like you

635
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: know what, you know, I've had my fair shake at

636
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: the relationships, you know, And you know, Bob, it's like,

637
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: you know what I've always, I've always I don't want

638
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: to say I'm naive at love, but it's like you

639
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: know what I I just when I fall in love,

640
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: I fall hard and I fall fast. And so you know,

641
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: what's what's happening now is that we're in our time.

642
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: I have someone in my life that's saying, you know what,

643
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: slow down? You know?

644
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you had your kids a little later too,

645
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean you had your kids sounding like forty

646
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: five and forty eight, forty five and forty So I.

647
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: Have my daughter when I was forty six forty six.

648
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I had you know, my first child.

649
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: You know, we have our first child when I was

650
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: forty eight forty eight, and then my second when we

651
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: were fifty. So, I mean, you're kind of in a weird,

652
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: a different spot from a dating divorce guy who's technically

653
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: golden right, because most of the goldens, I guess would

654
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: have probably the majority if they if they've got kids,

655
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: they are probably married with kids and their grandpa's You're

656
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: not right. You got kids in high school, you got

657
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: younger kids still, So does that factor in when you're dating?

658
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: Like do you how how soon? How soon do you

659
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: tell the story of your divorce? How soon do you

660
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: bring up the kids? When do they get to meet

661
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: the kids?

662
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Like?

663
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: How I mean, is there is there some hard fast

664
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: rules for you on that stuff?

665
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Uh? Like I said, with the intentionality all that, all

666
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: that kind of came out in the beginning conversations. Yeah, yeah,

667
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: you know, you know exactly who you are, who I am,

668
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: what's going on in your life. And then just like

669
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: you know, then you have the then you have the

670
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: choice of whether you want to continue to go on

671
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: and go on with that or not. And so uh

672
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: so yeah, so uh so there's continuity there and uh

673
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: and so, like it was kind of funny though, like

674
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: when the show is like you know when when uh,

675
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, being Golden and uh and it was, and

676
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: people had found out that I had younger kids. Yeah,

677
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: I was just cracking up with some of the comments

678
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: because they were thinking that my kids were like, you know,

679
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: they're like, well, who's going to want to date a

680
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: guy that's got you know, they're going to take care

681
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: of his kids, like like their infants or toddlers. I'm like,

682
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: you know what, you know, my my daughter's in high school,

683
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: my son's going to be in high school the next day.

684
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm pretty much close to being an

685
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: empty mester. I mean I'm like basically basically five years away,

686
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: and so meeting someone with the intentionality of like knowing

687
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: that Hey, I'm looking at a five year window basically

688
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: of you know, getting my kids through school when they're

689
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: off and doing their own things. Like you know what,

690
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: if we've already built a five year relationship and I'm

691
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: ready to spread my wings and relocate somewhere, then we've

692
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: already got a good foundation for that beginning to happen.

693
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it makes sense to me. I get it.

694
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that because I mean, not

695
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: that I'm playing on, you know, getting divorced, but I

696
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: would be that guy, right, I'd be you know, when

697
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm sixty two. I mean, geez, when I'm sixty two,

698
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: that would be what eight years for me. Grayson would

699
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: be fourteen, you know, Blake would be twelve, so be

700
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: right in that same you know, Wheelhouse, I guess a

701
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: little bit.

702
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Younger for you than what you've got.

703
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, I mean at the end of the day,

704
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: I would have to imagine that a lot of the

705
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: uh relationship qualities that that you're looking for, you know,

706
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: I would imagine you're looking for someone with some empathy,

707
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: You're looking for someone with a big heart, someone who

708
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: you know is willing to allow you to be yourself,

709
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: but also isn't afraid to let you know what they

710
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: need from you. And it sounds like she's done that

711
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: and you're perfectly capable and happy with uh, with the

712
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: way things are going. So for that, I'm I'm so

713
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: excited to hear. I mean, you're such a great guy,

714
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: and I love seeing you happy, buddy, And you can

715
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: tell that you've found someone who is making you happy,

716
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: so you know, good for you.

717
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: And here's the thing too, about with the with the

718
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: intentionality and kind of knowing what we both are looking for,

719
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: it kind of spares me in a sense that of

720
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: things if if we find out that maybe it's not

721
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: meant to be and we're but we've got this opportunity

722
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: to be friends. What happens, though, is that what has

723
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: happened in my previous relationships is that jumping in fast

724
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: and falling out fast is really really destroys my heart

725
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: and spirit this last relationship, man, I mean it, it really,

726
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: it really really hurt, and and so it gives me

727
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 3: the opportunity to say, you know, i'd look back and say,

728
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: you know what, if I don't want to feel that

729
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: kind of that kind of pain again, then uh, yeah,

730
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: maybe I do need to take it slow. When I

731
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: find that person again, you know, what are those boundaries

732
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: and what are those intentions and things like that, because

733
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: if if we find out, you know, after getting to

734
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: know each other and and kind of knowing what we're

735
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: walking into and what we both want. But if it

736
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: doesn't work out, least we know that we can walk

737
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: away friends and I won't feel like I'm falling off

738
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: the cliffs somewhere with right.

739
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I get that.

740
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean that that's kind of part of it too,

741
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: Like I always think about that with people you know

742
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: that are dating, that are single with with children. You know,

743
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: you never want to take your kids down that path

744
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: too often either, Right, So it's like, exactly, God bid

745
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: you keep introducing them to everybody that you think is

746
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna be the next great thing, and they and that

747
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: person's gone, and now that your kids are like, you

748
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: know what's going on. You know, I'm sure it's confusing. So,

749
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, good for you on being a little more

750
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: protective of that. You know, I think it's hard when

751
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: you're I mean, because I get it. You know, you

752
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: fall in love and you think this is it, this

753
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: is the greatest thing in the world, and then now

754
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: he probably be a little bit of time. You have

755
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: that retrospect or you can look back and you're like, Okay,

756
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: I can see why this didn't work right, and I'm

757
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: gonna change this moving forward. I'm gonna do something different

758
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: this next time around. And you know, so, I think, well,

759
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: one thing I think this is kind of great too,

760
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: is now that you and Gary are both dating.

761
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you guys rolling into Detroit. We'll

762
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: grab canyon, we'll all go out on double date. We'll

763
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: go triple date, triple date. What do you say, right? Yeah?

764
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: When are you guys swinging through the detown anytime soon?

765
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: The motor city needs you, buddy.

766
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well you know I've never been to Detroit.

767
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, that's a loss.

768
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Well I will say this, if you haven't been able

769
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: to get here before about the middle of November, wait

770
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: till spring.

771
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: The winners are brutal.

772
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: But how about this, because I do think you're someone

773
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: who would you strike me as someone who would.

774
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: Give very good advice. Do you have any parting.

775
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: Words, you know, any anything that you could say to

776
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: people out there who you know, I think are going

777
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: through divorce or going through a relationship breakup and who

778
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: are you know, maybe feeling a little helpless right now,

779
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: or maybe feeling a little bit defeated, you know, anything

780
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: that you could share with them, because I mean, you

781
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: even said one of the things you said that I

782
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: didn't really touch on, but I heard it, and I

783
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: don't want you to think I didn't, but I heard

784
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: you say, you know, you were beginning to wonder if there.

785
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Was something wrong with you, and maybe you know you weren't.

786
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Are you know, not lovable?

787
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: Not feeling you know, I get why people feel that

788
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: when they're going through those hard times, and I've definitely

789
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: been there myself.

790
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: But any advice that you have.

791
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Now that you're where you're at right now emotionally and

792
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: spiritually and everything else that you could give people while

793
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: they're going through a dark time.

794
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Like that, Yeah, I tell you it's the advice I

795
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: would give is that you know what you know? Uh,

796
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: I understand that that love is not for the faint

797
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: at heart. You know, it's a it's a wonderful feeling

798
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: to fall in love. It's a wonderful feeling to be

799
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: in love, but when you when it happens, when it

800
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: when when things end suddenly or they they just stop.

801
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

802
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: It hurts, and it's a human emotion, and it's like,

803
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: you know what, it's an emotion to uh, to embrace,

804
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: it's an emotion to feel, you know, and uh, as

805
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: difficult as it is, you know, you know, if you

806
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: get to the point where you know you're you know, isolating,

807
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: you know, reach out to one of your closest friends

808
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: that you feel that you can confide in, that you

809
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: can say whatever you need to say to that person

810
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: and and trust that they're not going to repeat anything,

811
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: but that you are able to get something out to someone,

812
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: That you can get something out of your heart to

813
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: share with someone, and so, uh that's part of the

814
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: healing process. And so uh, you definitely need to take

815
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: time for yourself. For me, I'm a pretty spiritual guy,

816
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: and so you know, I relied on a lot of

817
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: a prayer and meditation and then when I when I

818
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: do get isolated, I try to get out of the

819
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: house or I go to the gym. It's tough to

820
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: even it's tough to even want to go into the

821
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: gym to work out when you're feeling like that.

822
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well because you feel like everybody's yeah, happier

823
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: than you and looking at you sideways, it's like, what's

824
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: wrong with that dude?

825
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: You know or whatever? I get it. Yeah, I've been there.

826
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: But once you once you start taking those steps on

827
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: the cardio machine or you start lifting those weights that

828
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: resistant exercise, you get those kind of like endorphins going

829
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: inside of you and you start feeling a little physical

830
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: strength back. You know, because you've probably been laying around,

831
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: you probably haven't been eating eating, and so you're probably

832
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: physically weak. And so when you start putting nutrition back

833
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: in your body and you start working out and getting

834
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: out in a little bit, your strengthen your body and

835
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: your mind and your soul. And then just and just

836
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: take your time, you know, don't try to rush back

837
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: into things. You know. It's like, you know, you can't

838
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: rush being happy. You know, uh R want the gratification

839
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: of instant happiness, but the happiness is a result is

840
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: a byproduct of doing estimable things.

841
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: You know.

842
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: I know that when I felt low and broken hearted

843
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: and and you know, I felt like my self esteem

844
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: was just really really low. And a good friend of

845
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: mine told me is that, you know what, when you're

846
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: going through stuff like that, do esteamable things, whether It's

847
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: as simple as you know, what if you've if you've

848
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: just been letting your dishes pile up in the sink

849
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: because you don't have the energy or spirit to wash

850
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: your dishes. Go wash your dishes. Yeah, go clean the sink,

851
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Go wash your car. Go. I love to vacuum.

852
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Vacuuming is way, That's what I do every day. It's

853
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: my favorite.

854
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Man.

855
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: I love the vacuum.

856
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's knew I liked you. I'm a big vacuum guy.

857
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: You know what I think, you know, like what you

858
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: said earlier, I think you know you and I are

859
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: I think like a kindred spirits. It's like almost like

860
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, we're like spitting image of image of mirrors

861
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: of each other. You know.

862
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if I'm a buddy, I've never been

863
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: better looking, then thank you for that. You're a handsome man, brother.

864
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: I'll take it. No, I'm just I'm making life, But no,

865
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: thank you. I I definitely think that. I mean a

866
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: lot of the things you've said today and in your

867
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: past interviews too, when I've seen him pop up, I mean,

868
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: they resonate. You know, I've I think we've all been there.

869
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: People hate to admit it. That they've been there. But

870
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, I was fortunate enough to find some great

871
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: people to talk to, you know, I mean I went

872
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: to therapy. You know, I wasn't afraid to lean on that.

873
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a bad word for me. In fact,

874
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: it helped me quite a bit to you know. I

875
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: used to jokingly say, my mom and I just took

876
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: a little trip with my mom this past weekend. I

877
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: told her, I said, you know what they say, mom,

878
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: if it isn't one thing, it's your mother. And she

879
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: just starts laughing, you know, like just getting just kid.

880
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: But it was funny because you know, I had such

881
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: a great childhood growing up, and I had you know,

882
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: so part of me was like, you know, well, gosh,

883
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: why am I not able to find a successful relationship?

884
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: You know.

885
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of it was based on

886
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: my expectation and needing to find the right person who

887
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: was willing to let me be me but was also

888
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: willing to call me out, call me out when I

889
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: needed it, and uh and you know, and and I

890
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: think I've found that. And it's like, you know, and

891
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: it's one of those things that sometimes it takes some

892
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: of us longer than others, right. So I mean from

893
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 2: that perspective, as long as you're never going to stop

894
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: looking for whatever will complete you in whatever way you

895
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: need to be completed, I think that's that's part of

896
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: the process too. And I love to hear that you're

897
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: you're doing that, and I love that you found someone

898
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: that you know is filling your cup. You know, so

899
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: good for you, my friend. Nothing, nothing can make me

900
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: happier than to see you happy.

901
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: And Bob, check this out. There's there's something new that

902
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: that I was introduced to that I that I never

903
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: knew in any of my previous relationships. The five stages

904
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: of love. Are you familiar with those?

905
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: No? I know the five stages of grief. I don't

906
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: know the five stages of love.

907
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: This is good, Okay, So the five stages of love,

908
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: if I can remember them correctly. Okay, So the first stages,

909
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: you know, the obvious one. It's like you meet someone's

910
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: tacular and you're like heads over heels over each other

911
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: and everything is lovey dovey and all this other stuff,

912
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: holding hands, kissing and whatever the case may be.

913
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

914
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: Step two is the uh Step two is the is

915
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: the critical stage that I found out that uh, that

916
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people get stuck in and can't get

917
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: out of. And then that's where a lot of great

918
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: relationships probably end. It's the uh, it's the stage where

919
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, you're starting to really get to know that

920
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: person and some of those important questions that need to

921
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: be asked. Once they're asked, either you put up your

922
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: walls of defensiveness and you walk away, or you get

923
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: get into little arguments or whatever and you can't get

924
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: past stage two. Yeah, so that's where a lot of

925
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: people get stuck and uh. And then the third stage

926
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: is the third stage is that you know, uh, you know,

927
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: you pretty much got to handle You got out of

928
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: stage two, everything is great. Then stage four is like,

929
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: you know what, you can really imagine your life with

930
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: this person. You start doing things where you're actually building

931
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: your life with that person. You you understand who that

932
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: person is. And then stage five is that that's that's

933
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: that's the honeymoon stage basically right there is that you

934
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: are you are going to spend the rest of your

935
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: life with that person. Stage five. One of the things

936
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: that I one of the things that I remember when

937
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: I was after going through the divorce, I mean, I

938
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: was like sitting in the car by myself, just broken hearted.

939
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 3: And I was in in downtown Omaha and I saw

940
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: walking down the street this couple. I think they must

941
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: must have been in their nineties. I mean, but they

942
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: were in great shape walking down the street. But they

943
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: were walking hand in hand, and I was thinking, as

944
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: old as they are, they're still walking hand in hand.

945
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: So there obviously have been in stage five for a

946
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: long time. They got past stage two. So I would

947
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: say to anyone that's maybe going through something right now,

948
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: think of it. Look at it as stage too. This

949
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: is this is a difficult stage that if you really

950
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 3: care about that person, you really think that you want

951
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: to spend more time and maybe you're time with that person,

952
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: you got to get out of stage two. Answer difficult questions, humble,

953
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: humble yourself, and expose yourself and be really really vulnerable.

954
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: No, I love that man. You speaking of being vulnerable,

955
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you for sharing.

956
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this is stuff that I know

957
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: isn't easy to talk about all the time, and so

958
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you being on the pod with us.

959
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you sharing that and sharing your feelings

960
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: and your experiences. You know, a lot of people relate

961
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: to you, man, and and I think whether whether it's.

962
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: You know, because you're you're a sweet and kind person,

963
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: or whether you put it out there or whatever it

964
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: might be.

965
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people that aren't deserving

966
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: of the attention they get, and I always thought that

967
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: you were, and I think that you are and U

968
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you. So I'm glad that you were

969
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: willing to come on the show and talk about this

970
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: and be vulnerable and be open about it and share

971
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: where you're at with things.

972
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: I think.

973
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: I think I'm not the only one who's sitting here

974
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: really happy for how things are shaping up for your

975
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five as you roll into twenty twenty six,

976
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: given that it started like a disaster.

977
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy to hear about the rebound.

978
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: Well, man, it's good to be back on the show

979
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: with you. It's good to see your face and your smile.

980
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: And you're dimp on man, you know what, you know,

981
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: you got one hell of a dimple too.

982
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: My brother, Oh, I know, we got Boddy.

983
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, if we got to figure out

984
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: the top part of this, but otherwise we're twins.

985
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Just shave it.

986
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: Just shave it off. You'll enjoy it.

987
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, I kind of. I'm pretty fortunate right now.

988
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the other day when my buddies like,

989
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: I know you color your hair. I said, I swear

990
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: to you, I've never colored my hair. He's like, you're

991
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: fifty four, you have no grades. I'm like, oh, buddy,

992
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: I've got grays. I just got really thick hair. You

993
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: s aren't seeing them yet. Trust you get close enough.

994
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: But thank you, buddy. I love you being on the show.

995
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm happy for your happiness. I hope we can connect

996
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: sometime soon.

997
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: Well, Bob, you know what, it's good to see. It's

998
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: good to see you. I love I love seeing the

999
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: images of you with your family and your kids. It's like,

1000
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: you know what, it's like, you know when I when

1001
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: I see that, you know, when I see you, it's like,

1002
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, I see it's like, you know what. I

1003
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: love that. I love seeing your happiness with your family.

1004
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: And so just keep it up, my brother.

1005
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother.

1006
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: The same to you, Jonathan, Jonathan rowd everybody, thank you

1007
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: so much for joining us, buddy, and for everybody else

1008
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: out there.

1009
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, let us know, you know, if you're ready to.

1010
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: Date again, you need some help Davigt navigating your dating landscape.

1011
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Call us or email us the show. The email infos

1012
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: of the show notes, so make sure you check it out.

1013
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,160
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1014
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,759
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