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Speaker 1: May there are folks. It is Wednesday, October the twenty second,

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Speaker 1: and we have made it to our top ten favorite

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Speaker 1: horror movies that you might not know about, and number

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Speaker 1: ten on our list today might be a bit of

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Speaker 1: a tough sell. And with that, welcome to this episode

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Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. Roabes. This is maybe the or

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Speaker 1: second one of the second lowest Rotten Tomato scores.

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Speaker 2: Correct. This one is of distinction in that the critics

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Speaker 2: gave it a very low rotten Tomato ah, but the

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Speaker 2: audience gave it a high Rotten Tomato score, which I

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Speaker 2: always think is the perfect combo, because if the critics

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Speaker 2: were looking for something I always keep using this word elevated,

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Speaker 2: but some sort of you know, yes, an elevated horror

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Speaker 2: movie experience. But if the fans just wanted to have

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Speaker 2: some fun and they loved it, I know that's going

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Speaker 2: to be a certain kind of movie we're going to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Always said that that is almost how you find a

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if we've ever missed on one.

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Speaker 2: No, I think when the audience loves it in spite

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Speaker 2: of the critics. It's exceptionally good.

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Speaker 1: All right, so this one is special in that category.

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Speaker 1: And tell the folks robes number ten on our list

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Speaker 1: as we count down. Number ten movie is countdown.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that seems appropriate. Yes, its release date was just

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Speaker 2: actually almost exactly six years ago, October twenty fifth, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: It's an hour and thirty minutes, just a ninety minute

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Speaker 2: just I don't know, explosion of fun. That's how I

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Speaker 2: would describe it. And this is our only PG thirteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: horror movie. In fact, I feel like if you were

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Speaker 1: Maybe so I've known about this one for years. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I found it, But PG thirteen, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking back to the movie. We've watched it again here

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. How tough some of

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Speaker 1: the death scenes are? The scares? Huh? Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: It's creepy. I definitely have a few jump scares in there,

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Speaker 2: but it's not gory to the point where or foul

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Speaker 2: that is and was among some of the complaints.

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Speaker 1: By folks that was scary enough for gory And yes that.

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Speaker 2: The PG thirteen held it back, which I agree it

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Speaker 1: I didn't know until this moment it was PG thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're like, second guest, No.

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Speaker 1: I love that I didn't know that because I probably

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I didn't know until I did the

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Speaker 2: research either. I assumed it was a rated R. But

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Speaker 2: it does speak volumes for the box office. This is

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Speaker 2: the reason why some movies do PG thirteen because obviously

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Speaker 2: you get in a much younger group of folks who

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Speaker 2: and your movie can do Gangbusters that way, even though

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Speaker 2: you might piss off some diehard horror fans who like

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Speaker 2: things a little bit grittier. But box office forty eight

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Speaker 1: World back, that's a hit for that budget.

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Speaker 2: That's a hit six point five million for the budget.

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Speaker 2: That's it. So yes, this did really well, and the

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Speaker 2: rating could have had a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 2: The cast was great though, so her name you might

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Speaker 2: not know, Elizabeth Layle. She's the star. But if any

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Speaker 2: of you listening love the Netflix series You, which I

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Speaker 2: other movies as well. Jordan Callaway such a cutie. Had

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Speaker 1: Oh black guy, yeah, oh yeah, look the Nelly look alike.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I love them together too. I was rooting

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Speaker 2: for them the whole time. And then Ta Litha Elena

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Speaker 1: She's how many years older right in this one? Than Annabel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I actually went back and looked because I was like, wait,

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Speaker 2: This correct But the difference is only I believe three years.

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Speaker 2: But that's the difference between being a little girl and

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Speaker 1: So it was don't go that far.

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Speaker 2: The director justin deck. So anyway, the Rotten Tomato score

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Speaker 2: I think we might have had one in the teens.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to go back and check screepers. But the

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Speaker 1: It lacks enough wit in creativity. I don't take too

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Speaker 1: much issue with what they're saying, because did you read

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Speaker 2: You skipped right over the gift over the synopsis?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's this, sorry, thank you for that. When a

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Speaker 1: Okay, obviously that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Though, for a supernatural mystery thriller thing. That's exactly what

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Speaker 1: kind of a teeny bopper. It has to do with phones, apps, time,

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Speaker 2: Thank you all, right, I get that. So sample critic reviews,

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Speaker 2: Countdown is pretty damn fun and does an exit one

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Speaker 1: What I would say entertaining movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, here is another. This is I put it in

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. All right.

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Speaker 2: Here's another one. You could get drunk and laugh at it.

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Speaker 2: Here is another one. Think Final Destination plus flatliners, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's too much. I don't even want to think

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Speaker 2: Disagree too, because it is fun. It is a fun

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Speaker 2: movie period. Here's another negative review by a critic. Countdown

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Speaker 1: It's a gimmicky concept. Yeah, I have an app I

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Speaker 2: they had eighty more years to live. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 2: And within the first few minutes of the movie, someone

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Speaker 2: So who is this for? Well, you don't get to

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Speaker 1: It's twisted, it's a little sadistic, and Thor himself plays a.

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Speaker 2: Starring Yes, it's so funny. I had written in here

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is such a twisted movie.

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Speaker 2: And cannot give one more hint. This movie is set

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