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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's Friday. You ain't got shit to do.

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Speaker 3: Do not adjust your flux capacitor. This ain't twenty twenty two, right,

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas and LT. Today we're actually getting paid for

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Speaker 3: this ish full production. We back and if you could

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you're probably drinking some metals and

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Speaker 1: back another fancy but we should call it fully funded Fridays.

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Speaker 3: The triple F Triple F. I love it. I friggin

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do our final preview and picks for all

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Speaker 1: This I don't see it too dissimilarly, but I do

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Speaker 1: this is the joy of this bout. Both guys have faced,

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Speaker 3: I love that you said. For as much as both

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Speaker 1: keep your feet moving the whole time. And so I

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Speaker 1: really feel like, you know, one thing that Paul Malanaji

433
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Speaker 1: said that I thought was kind of interesting was like,

434
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Speaker 1: what Better be Of will do is he'll throw, and

435
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't really care if he hits you in the head,

436
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 1: especially early. He's gonna throw to the arms, to the elbow,

437
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 1: to the hip, right, anything he can do to cause

438
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: you to not just second guess or think more, but

439
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: to slow down just physically, or to cause pain in

440
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Speaker 1: some kind of way, to make you less able to

441
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Speaker 1: do that going forward or less able to do something

442
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: else going forward. And I think there's just gonna be

443
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Speaker 1: a lot of foundation laying early there. The question is

444
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Speaker 1: can he keep that up? I mean, the reality is

445
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: twelve rounds of Better Beev. I mean, just to say

446
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: it out right, like BC, like literally no one else

447
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: has ever survived.

448
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: That, not a single person, even in times that they've

449
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: hurt better Beev. Like you mentioned, he can get dropped

450
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: or cut, but he's never out of these fights. And

451
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,239
Speaker 3: it's not miraculous comeback knockouts. He punches the life out

452
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: of you as the fight progresses.

453
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: That's the reality. So it's like, if it's not just that,

454
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: if Bevill wins, he's the first guy to do that,

455
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: he'd be the first guy to survive twelve rounds with him.

456
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: That's insane. That's insane. So again, the U way you

457
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: kind of framed it to start the conversation I think

458
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: is the most helpful one, which is early. I do

459
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: think that better Beev is really going to struggle. I

460
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a hard time finding this guy.

461
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I think the speed, the rhythm, just the output, everything

462
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: that Bivall does is to the point that you eraised,

463
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: making the fight and defining it on his terms. It's

464
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: once that slows down a little bit, assuming that it does,

465
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: can better be of mount enough offense to really degrade

466
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: the physical capability of bival to keep that up. It's

467
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Speaker 1: the great unknown.

468
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: And just the same on the flip side, how much

469
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: can Bevall take? I mean, I get why he's the

470
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: betting favorite here despite not being the bigger puncher of

471
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: the two, and when things are typically even sometimes you'll

472
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: get that favor going to the bigger punch of the two.

473
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: He's younger, certainly you can argue fresher at this moment

474
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 3: and more active of late. But it's a different story

475
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: in the second half of these fights against Better Bev. Now,

476
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: like what you talked about, it doesn't matter if he's

477
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: not hitting you flush, hitting the shoulders, hitting the arms,

478
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: and move Canelo did remember when he injured Callum Smith

479
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: and beat him down. In that regard, it seems that

480
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: these shots that Better Bev lands throughout the beginning and

481
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: middle ends of these fights. Obviously body punches, we know

482
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: you can put that money in the bank and slow

483
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: somebody down late, but everything he lands at short range

484
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: consistently takes the gas tank and the fight out of

485
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: his opponents. But you could argue be False among the

486
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: most fit twelve round fighters in this game, and he

487
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: doesn't get hit regularly. So luke the central tension on

488
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: this question, and somebody asked this in my live chat

489
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: this week and they were right on is do we

490
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: actually know Bivol has an amazing Chin on the better

491
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: BV level or is he just such a great defender

492
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: that outside of getting rocked by Joe Smith Junior in

493
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: that title fight, we really haven't consistently seen him in

494
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: any form of trouble.

495
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: No, you haven't. He hasn't really been tested, not in

496
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Speaker 1: this particular way. No, it's not like he has been

497
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: Like he went up against dynamic punchers who landed a lot,

498
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: and he, like No Gara, his way through it. No,

499
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: that's that's not what has happened. He's taken a couple

500
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 1: of big shots from overhands that caught him. Those are

501
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: the big ones that he tends to get obviously if

502
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: you extend them the jab and you know, no one's

503
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: going to set it up perfectly one hundred percent of

504
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: the time. And so what you've seen our overhand rights

505
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: really come over the top on him. That has been

506
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: left too, But you get the idea. It's the overhand

507
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: that tends to cast him some problems at times, but

508
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times he's still leaning out of the way,

509
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: so he is, you know, mitigating some of the impact

510
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: and there's just very little follow up thereafter. Like he's

511
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: very good about getting hit and being like Okay, let me,

512
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: let me change the circumstances so that doesn't happen quite

513
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: to the same extent again, and then he'll do that.

514
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: So it's it's the what you're looking for from better

515
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: b of is. Obviously he's got sustained offense. That's a

516
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: great sign because really no one's able to do that.

517
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: But the question is, like, how will he get that

518
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: sustained offense because without his footwork and his jab and

519
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: his feints and level changes, cornering or somehow trapping Bivall,

520
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Like the last time I saw Bivall take a big shot,

521
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: he had space behind him to move. That's the issue.

522
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: If he can take a big shot and then you

523
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: mentioned better be his four punch combinations, the other three

524
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: or four are gonna miss. If he's out and he's

525
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: off to the racetrack again, you have to control the space.

526
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: And once that happens, or assuming that it does, it's

527
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: a different ballgame.

528
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: There's two elements it seems to Bevall's offensive attack. One

529
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: is building behind that jab I just mentioned statistically how

530
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: he's the best in the game, the most accurate. He

531
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: uses it at times almost exclusively to set the table

532
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: of what he wants to do with combinations once he

533
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: starts darting in with that upright European style. But you

534
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: know he has great handspeed, better than Better Beev of course,

535
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: but Luke early, yes, I see him building rounds. But

536
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: as this it progresses, do you think Bevall can continue

537
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 3: to have success on the inside or do you think

538
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: ultimately he's going to figure out that jabbing on the

539
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: outside in going into a role of pure boxer, because

540
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: remember he's an incredible boxer. But he did an outbox

541
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Canelo Alvarez. He stood in the pocket with timely combinations,

542
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: darting in and out, and he put it on Canelo.

543
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: I don't expect that to happen in this fight. Do

544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: you think, though, that Better Beev can discipline, scare, slash,

545
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: humble of him enough to the point where maybe the

546
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: second half road to victory for Beevall.

547
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Is exclusively boxing. Yes, yes, absolutely, I mean I could

548
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: see a scenario where he's leading on the cards, everything's

549
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: going pretty well. He takes a gigantic shot that he's

550
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: not taken before, and now he's really quite hesitant, which,

551
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: by the way, that would be a problem too, because

552
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: then Better Beev would turn on his after burners and

553
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: go after him. But again, you're just talking about a

554
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: guy who's never faced firepower, like would better be is

555
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: going to rain down upon him east in theory anyway,

556
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: And so what does that do to his psychological makeup?

557
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: When shit goes bad? What happens to him? When by

558
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: the way, if he gets cut, if he his eyes

559
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: swell shut, what happens to him then? Right? So these

560
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: all kinds of scenarios that this is what I mean.

561
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: It's like, are both guys tested, Well, yeah, I mean

562
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: they are, Like these are undefeated world champions. This is

563
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: for all the marbles, all the belts. It would hardly

564
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: be fair to call them untested at the at the

565
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: other end of things, though, like they're untested against this,

566
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: They're untested on these circumstances, and it's hard to know

567
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: exactly what happens when they come together. So I can

568
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: definitely see that. But the point you raised about, like

569
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: could it change his game plan if he's touched up?

570
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: But there's so many unknowns because we are entering the

571
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: kind of fight where either guy can do something to

572
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: their opponent that neither of them has really had to

573
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: solve for in any kind of sustained round over round way,

574
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: and it just makes it really, really really hard to

575
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: know what that will look like.

576
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: And if you're wondering, how hard does better Beev actually punch.

577
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: Outside of the gaudy knockout record of twenty KOs and

578
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: twenty fights, the first time he unified titles in this

579
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: division came against an unbeaten version of Alexander Vodzik, right,

580
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: the Ukrainian Olympian who just recently came back after you

581
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: know he's built to come back in the past year,

582
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: and then had the big loss to David Benavitez, but

583
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: fought very well early on in Saudi Arabia. Let's remember

584
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: that better Beev stopped him late and retired him at

585
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: the peak of his prime due to a brain bleed

586
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: scare because of how brutally he beat him late. Look,

587
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that interview this week

588
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: with Vosdik and they asked him, I wish I knew

589
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: the outlet, I wish I grabbed the audio. They asked him, like,

590
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: what would you tell Beeval to do?

591
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Knowing run away?

592
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: He said three things. Yeah, he goes, don't get hit

593
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: in the face, work your asshole and run away, so

594
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: that guy knows what it's like to be in there.

595
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: He's basically saying, hey, Bevall, don't dart in. There's gonna

596
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: be no combination punching. You're gonna jab jab, footwork, move

597
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: and try to outwork and outlast this guy on the scorecards.

598
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna work. You're going to.

599
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: Have to see Beevall establish himself, step in, take big chances.

600
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: But this is power like nobody else. So, Luke, as

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: we fuel into the predictions here, it's like, what do

602
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: you do? Could you imagine Bevall winning six of the

603
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: first eight rounds? Yes, but what the hell happens round

604
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: nine through twelve? Luke, are you ready to tell the

605
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: people what does happen? Because this guy is a different

606
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: power puncher, but he's going up against maybe the most

607
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: perfect technical boxer with some good speed, power and offensive

608
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: flare that this division could hope for right now, so.

609
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I do. Well, let me just say I like, it

610
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: is a joy to watch better beev compete. He maybe

611
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's my favorite, but he's like

612
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: top five, like of all the guys who even if

613
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't even fighting Bivall this weekend, I would be like,

614
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I want to make time whenever he competes. He's got

615
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: such a there's there's this very few guys in the

616
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: game who have such a unique command of the sport

617
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: that when you watch them, you realize you're not watching

618
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: like other guys cannot do this. They even Bivall, Bivall

619
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: could not do what Better Beev does not even close.

620
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: And so for that reason he's one of my favorites.

621
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: So I want to be honest, I actually want him

622
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: to win. I just don't think he will. I actually

623
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like Bivall is gonna get this now. I don't

624
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: think Bivoll gets a stoppage or anything. I think I

625
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: think Bivall by split decision is the way I'm gonna go.

626
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I think on activity, on activity, I think he's gonna

627
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: get I'll say, oh, man, I don't know, I don't know.

628
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: I do think this. I feel confident in saying this.

629
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: He's going to have some moments several rounds where he's

630
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: just up against it in ways he's absolutely never ever

631
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: been up against it. But I feel like the problem

632
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: that better Beev has is that even if he lands

633
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: Bivell is smart enough to know what I mentioned previously,

634
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: which is that if you go too safe, you actually

635
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: make it worse. Actually you actually enable better beev. I

636
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: mean you have to there's a certain delicate balance you

637
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: have to get right. But if you go too far

638
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: over that, you're going to get finished. If you go

639
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: to less than that, it also invites further aggression. There's

640
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: a certain amount you have to maintain, a certain kind

641
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: of order and distance you have to maintain. And I

642
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: feel like even if he gets rocked, he has to

643
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: know that has to maintain otherwise it all completely falls apart,

644
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: and that will lead to enough of a work rate

645
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: that will enable him to get his hand raised in

646
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: the end. I hope I'm wrong. I hope better bev wins.

647
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: I'll be hobby delighted if he wins. I just feel

648
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: like I gotta go with Bival for the reasons aforementioned.

649
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: That's a strong pick. And by the way, when I

650
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: was reading those quotes from Vodzig, that wasn't him making jokes.

651
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: He said that, yeah, let me just say this, that's right.

652
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: If you actually watch it, the guy's like what it

653
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: was like a British interviewer. Right, that's why I remember.

654
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: And the guy's like, you know, what do you recommend?

655
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: He's like, run away, And dude, he was not joking.

656
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: He was being dead serious. He's like, just get the

657
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: fuck out of the way. It's like, what do you

658
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: do when a building collapses? Get the fuck out of

659
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: the way, you know what I mean?

660
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, building seven also, Luke, just all right, I

661
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: mean you couldn't know that.

662
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: All right, here's the deal.

663
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: I've been beval this whole time, Luke, I really have

664
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: because of everything you said. He's so efficient. His defense

665
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: is through the roof. I mean, those numbers don't lie.

666
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: He commands and control almost every aspect of the fights

667
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: he is in. But that better beev power is just

668
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: so different. And even in the post COVID fights, where

669
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: I feel like, more than ever you're seeing little pockets

670
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: of I don't know if it's slippage or slowing down. Man,

671
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: does he figure his opponents out. It's not just you know,

672
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 3: wait till the end, like Deontay Wilder, and he'll find

673
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: a way to land that one big punch. So if

674
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: I'm picking better BV by Ko, which I am, by

675
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: the way, I'm not picking him from the standpoint of

676
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: one massive punch to bail himself out when he's losing,

677
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: you know, ten eight rounds to.

678
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Three at that point.

679
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: I think ultimately the biggest problem for Bevall here is

680
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: no one has been able to take the terms of

681
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: a fight away from him at the highest level professionally

682
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: up to this point, and the only one capable of

683
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: doing it is better Viev because of his knowledge, his

684
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: stre his boxing, his ability to cut off that ring.

685
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: He is such a smart puncher. He throws short, heavy,

686
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: devastating blows almost at all times, almost exclusively a power

687
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: puncher at times. Right, Obviously, though he does have a

688
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: very good job, a very heavy, strong job. I think

689
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: when we get into that second half, the one underrated

690
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: aspect of better BF for being such a big guy.

691
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: Right, he's a huge light heavyweight, he.

692
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Has a gas tank, he has an understanding of how

693
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: to win fights. I just think when he starts changing

694
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: the terms of the fights in the second half, and

695
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: really we see Bevall, like you mentioned, not in the

696
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: center of the ring looking to either avoid or how

697
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: does he react to one big punch. What happens when

698
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: the real estate changes? What happens when he gets cornered.

699
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: I know he's better than all twenty of the opponents.

700
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Better BV has knocked out before, but Better BV is different.

701
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: I've got him by ko in this. I've come around.

702
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 3: I've watched enough tape, I've watched every interview, I've crunched

703
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 3: all the numbers in my head. I got the action

704
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: figures out and recreated it in front of me, Luke,

705
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: I did the whole thing on this. Either way, we're

706
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: all gonna win because this is an insanely awesome fifty

707
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: to fifty fight that's not only gonna determine the first

708
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: undisputed champion at one seventy five, the best fighter of

709
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: this era in this weight class, Luke, as we mentioned

710
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: on Monday, there are legit pound for pound considerations. I

711
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: have Better Bev four Bevall five on my list right

712
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: now for cbsports dot Com. I know we both can

713
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: talk ourselves into this. If Better Beev.

714
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Improves to twenty one and oh with twenty one.

715
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: KOs and knocks out Bevall to do it, could he

716
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: get a vote ahead of Usik Bud Crawford In a

717
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: way I think we all realize if he does it spectacularly, Yes,

718
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: But Luke, what about Bevall. If bev All goes in

719
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: there and solves better viev what are we gonna be

720
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: saying about his pound for pound relevance come Monday morning.

721
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. I still don't think it

722
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: would put him ahead of in a way bud or

723
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Usic for a very simple reason, which is that these

724
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: guys are conquering weight classes beyond their original one or

725
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: their basic one. They're the natural one, whereas with Bivall,

726
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: this is kind of all he's assuming he gets to

727
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: that point, this will be the only weight class he's

728
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: ever unified. He hasn't done it in multiple weight classes.

729
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: So for that reason, I would still at best rank

730
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: him fourth. But in terms of like the quality he'd

731
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: be offering, it would be nearly tantamount to the other guys.

732
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Like what you're looking at, there's not there's you know.

733
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: It's why it's really hard to decide, like who's different

734
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: from bud To in a way to Usik, And it's because,

735
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they have very different styles, they're in different

736
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: weight classes, different parts of the world even, but there's

737
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: no real drop off in quality between them. Even if

738
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: there are some noteworthy differences. I think Bivol would be

739
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: part of that kind of conversation too. There's no draw

740
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: you get past better BV. And by the way I mean,

741
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: we haven't talked to it. I don't think it's likely.

742
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: But could he stop better be of? And if he

743
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: stops better be of?

744
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: Yikes?

745
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're just you're You're dealing

746
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: with somebody who like this is what I can say,

747
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: either guy scores the stoppage, assuming it's not a fuckery win,

748
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a like a You're

749
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about basically the best that boxing has to offer.

750
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying i'd rank him number one pound per pound,

751
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: but in a sort of a looser sense of the

752
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: way we describe it, that's that's the best that boxing has.

753
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: That's what that looks like, That's what that means, That's

754
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: what that would signify to me.

755
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: That's where I was leading you, And I'm glad you

756
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: said it, because not only could you argue that this

757
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: fight in general all the stakes in terms in what

758
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: they bring to the table. I've wrote a column this week,

759
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: this is the best in bid this is the best

760
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: as you know this Fury versus Usick one, Spence versus

761
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: Crufford one. I mean you know Meyweather packet like these

762
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: are on paper. The terms is the best boxing can offer.

763
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: But the fact that the winner could potentially have a

764
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: chance to say in this era, by the way, which

765
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen a more competit the pom for pound era.

766
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: I remember three years ago, I was like, there's six

767
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: to seven guys with an outside claim at number one

768
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: right now, that's really three? Could this could we get

769
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: a fourth? Could they have a shot at exiting the

770
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: ring in Riot on Saturday saying I'm the best fighter

771
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: in the world. Yeah, because what's the biggest currency from

772
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: a pomp for pound level that you can add defeating

773
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: another pound for pound?

774
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: Great?

775
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: These two are in my top five. Everyone else has

776
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: them in the top seven or eight. For the most part.

777
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: They can get congested there in the middle. But that

778
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: just adds on to how big this event is. No

779
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: rematch clause by the way, Look, did you see that

780
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: little back and forth with with better Viv and Eddie

781
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: Hearn at the press conference yesterday? We never see that

782
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: personality from our.

783
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: Turn Eddie Hearn getting real mouthy. Yeah, that's a I

784
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: don't know if. I don't know if better Viev is

785
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: the guy you want to get mouthy against, especially since

786
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: Eddie Hearn's main event, guys have been on a dramatic

787
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: losing skit. Now. Granted Bivall is excellent, but still like, uh,

788
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: he Hearn plays with fire, does he not? He he?

789
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: He pokes the bear.

790
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: I love when Archer was like you talk a lot

791
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: and that He's like, yeah, it's my job to do that.

792
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: You should try it. It's like, Okay, you're about to

793
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: get you're about to get knocked.

794
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't he had me at, He had me at

795
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: it's my job to do that. Okay, fair enough, and

796
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: then you should try it. No, you should be quiet.

797
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: You should you should shut the f up, Luke, I'm

798
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: not that interested in the undercard. I mean, we do

799
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: get Chris Hubank junior back.

800
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: Who gives a ship? Ye, who gives a ship? The

801
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: only thing that was even remotely interesting about him this

802
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: week was Connor Ben also being a jackass and getting

803
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: in his face taking the glasses off yet yeah, which

804
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: I also, I want to be clear, that was the

805
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: best thing about it. And I also didn't care about that.

806
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: I like Chris Cybank. I don't have anything against him,

807
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: but like, let's be real, this is it's not fair

808
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: to call this a one fight card. But insofar as

809
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: I am like actually thinking about this and what when,

810
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: what how, I'm going to really apportion my attention. It's

811
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: a one fight card. There you go, There you go

812
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of UK friendly fights on.

813
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: There were some good ones though too. And you know,

814
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: some people like Sky Nicholson a lot Luke the Australian boxer.

815
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: So is this the one who like weighs in in

816
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: her her lingerie? I mean, who doesn't these days? Luke?

817
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 7: You know?

818
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: Do right? Am I right about that? She does do that?

819
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if it's lingerie, but you

820
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: know everyone weighs in their skin.

821
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there was. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody different.

822
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: Think I know you're thinking of ebony bridges.

823
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: I think ebony.

824
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: Oh maybe, yeah, you're thinking of ebony bridges.

825
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: Look at look at miss.

826
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: Because Sky Nicholson's an Aussie boxer. So I like her,

827
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 5: I said, boxer. Uh, but uh, she doesn't. She's not

828
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 5: like slutty like that, she's.

829
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: Will you go pants off? On the main card minute

830
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: during the pay per view undercard and there No, I

831
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: will not, but I will be card minute.

832
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Are you guys like the worst kind of m M

833
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: A fan that like, I don't like boxing at all.

834
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 5: No, I just was saying, I'll probably do a lead

835
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 5: in with better be Bevall into the main card.

836
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The UFC card starts at four if I'm not mistaken.

837
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, Cita, before we leave you here, this

838
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: is a fifty to fifty fight. Luke and I just

839
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: picked opposite sides after a long breakdown of what can happen.

840
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: You're a betting man.

841
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how up you are on these two guys,

842
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: but what is.

843
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Your pick for Sarah?

844
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 5: So you guys definitely sold me on Bevil by Decision

845
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 5: as a good prop. I also like better beav money

846
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: line up plus money. I was just looking at the

847
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 5: knockdown odds Bevil to get knocked down plus one hundred ooh,

848
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: and I like that a lot, So I might do

849
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: bev All by Decision and bev All to get knocked

850
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 5: down is like a little hedge.

851
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: That's a I like those are good bets. Those I

852
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: like all those bets. Yeah, dude, it's a tough one.

853
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: It's a really tough one to call, very very tough.

854
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: Follow for more good bets, Thank you big and pornography

855
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: talking and bong hits. Apparently, Luke, this fight will probably

856
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: end around seven pm Eastern on Saturday. Will you be

857
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 3: posts fighting it on the Luke Thomas Show.

858
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm definitely going to do a watch along,

859
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: which means I'll probably do something of a post fight,

860
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: but join me to watch, Join me at six pm

861
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: to just watch the ship. So there you go.

862
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Check it out at the at luke YouTube dot com

863
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: slash Luke Thomas. Indeed, I might do something on Sorrey.

864
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: We'll see.

865
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: I got some other things going on, all right, Luke,

866
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: that's our first topic. Our second topic, let's move over

867
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: to MMA in UFC, and let's talk about the big

868
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: face to face ahead of one of the biggest fights

869
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: in the last few years, the type of fight that

870
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: gets me out of my chair shadowboxing just thinking about it.

871
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Ilio Taporia defending that featherweight title in his first defense,

872
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: fresh off the destruction of Alexander Volkanowski, up against former champion,

873
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: BMF champion and really second half of career resurrected Max Holloway.

874
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: They did a zoom style face to face. Brendan Fitzgerald

875
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: of the UFC was the host. Luke Thomas I exited

876
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: this even more fired up for UFC three Toho eight,

877
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: which is coming up in Abu Dhabi in uh what

878
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: was it? Is it October twenty.

879
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Sixth Yeah, two saturdays from now?

880
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Saturday?

881
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: Now?

882
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: What would you say? We do have clips that we

883
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: can throw to in a second, But what's your biggest

884
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: takeaway from seeing these two? And I know this is

885
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: just trash talk, but seeing these two on the same

886
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: camera at the same time getting after it.

887
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: I love how I wouldn't call it angry it is

888
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: between them but competitive, you know, like the ease guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

889
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: So I love that. I just want to say, as

890
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: a general worldview, I love how much ilia makes everyone angry.

891
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I I can't tell it feeds and nourishes my soul

892
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: not so much Max.

893
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: And by Jones Don, Luke, where is your right hand

894
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: at the moment? That's what the viewers want to know.

895
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like just to watch, Oh I've locker hurt

896
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: this car early, I'm like, mm, yes, let the hate

897
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: flow through you. I fucking love it. But I will

898
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: say this, I thought Max had some good jabs against him.

899
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: I did think the one about going after his English

900
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: backfired on him pretty big.

901
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: Maybe we can throw to it now and react.

902
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I have one more take after that,

903
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: but let's see that one. Yeah.

904
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: I believe this was the biggest sort of takeaway that

905
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: so many people had. This was at the very end

906
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: of their twenty something minute back and forth.

907
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 8: All the time say the say the same.

908
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't need to say anything.

909
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 8: Speak bro, I'm speaking in you language. Let's talk in Spanish,

910
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 8: Let's talk in Georgia and list talk in Russian, list

911
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: talking in Germany. What there you talking about? Mans? If

912
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 8: you want to talk in English, whatever you want to do.

913
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: Boy, Luke, I don't think Max looked great there. What's

914
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: your takeaway? I mean, it's cool that Youporia speaks eighteen languages, Luke,

915
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: but what are you taking away from.

916
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: That on the merits of the point? I just don't

917
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: know how you could disagree with Supportia like this. This

918
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: is like what third or fourth fucking language like. You know,

919
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: he's just not going to be as fluid in that

920
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: as he is in what he speaks normally, I think

921
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: most folks at a bare minimum could understand that. B See.

922
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Now I have to be careful here because I like

923
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: how much Ilia irritates the fan base. Yes, but am

924
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: I wrong? Because that very well could be. Am I

925
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: wrong in perceiving that he seemed to be doing a

926
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: little bit more than irritating Max? He had Max a

927
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: little bit but fuddle's not quite the right word, but

928
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: not really himself either. Did you detect that he had

929
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: that kind of effect on him or is that my imagination?

930
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the effect on him or

931
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: if Max just didn't expect that this was going to

932
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: be a full time back and forth like where's your

933
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: best trash talk, like this is some kill Tony slash

934
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: rat battle or something like that. In that sense. And again,

935
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: you can always argue what the value is in these

936
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: pre fight moments like this. I always try to argue

937
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: there is a lot of value. But I'll tell you this,

938
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: I watched that in Max lost not a ten to seven,

939
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: not maybe even ten to eight, but a clear ten nine.

940
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: I thought Ilia had better responses for his fourth language

941
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: or third language. He was more articulate and humorous and

942
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: tough in all of that, I don't know if Max

943
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: was overwhelmed and just kept going back to the Okay,

944
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see, or maybe that's just more of

945
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: how he is. I mean, do we have a long

946
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 3: history of Max being in these you know, McGregor versus

947
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: Diaz war of words leading up into a fight. Maybe

948
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: not as much, but whatever you want to take away

949
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: from who won this to Pouria won it? But does

950
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: that mean he's in Max's head? I personally believe Max

951
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: is too much of a veteran, too much of a

952
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: Look the thing about wherever he ends up on any

953
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: kind of all time list, whatever other titles he adds

954
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: to his you know, or a second title here at featherweight,

955
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: the one thing I will say about him is is

956
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: he's more game mentally than you know, ninety nine percent

957
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: of the fighters that ever walked in there. And I

958
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: know that because of how many times he's reinvented himself

959
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: in the face of us going ooh, this might be

960
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: the end. Too much damage, Oh, a third loss to

961
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: Volkanovsky and he got bloodied and his ass kicked. Yet

962
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: what does he do goes back and turns it back on.

963
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: So No, I don't think this is some big l

964
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: where he's going to go back to the gym and

965
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: be and be down and out. But for whatever this

966
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: is worth to sell the fight to Poria kind of

967
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: clearly dominated this.

968
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not convinced that these exchanges, when they go

969
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: well for one guy, means he's going to win in

970
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: the fight, or when it goes poorly, he's going to

971
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, lose in the fight. I tend to think

972
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: that they have a a minimal relationship or you know,

973
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: a tangential at best in many cases to what ultimately

974
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: happens in the fight. And to the point you raised,

975
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: like dude, Max is highly experienced, highly motivated, Like I

976
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: just don't believe that to like to Poria just seems

977
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to be annoying to people who are on the other

978
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: side of whatever he's doing. Right, either you're fighting him

979
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: and you find him annoying, or you find him annoying

980
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: because he's beating your favorite guy or the stuff he

981
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: says on social But like he tends to have this

982
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: very like radiates this kind of negativity from from other people.

983
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: And I just think like you kind of saw that

984
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: from the fan base you're kind of seeing it now

985
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: from Max. But I'm with you, like I thought that,

986
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, to Poria, you know, performed ably given what

987
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: this kind of event is, But in the end that

988
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: is really not going to explain to me who wins

989
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: or loses. And you know, is he in Max's head again? Dude?

990
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Max is just on a completely You can rattle an

991
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: experienced competitor, yes you can, but it's gonna take a

992
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: lot more than that to do it.

993
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: Long, Look, would you be a gentleman? Play another clip here?

994
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: I want to react to it. Hit me with your choice,

995
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Hit me with this dealer's choice. Yeah.

996
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 7: What did you think of Maxi's fight against Justin Gage

997
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 7: in April.

998
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 6: You don't have to answer that. Everybody saw the video already.

999
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: We saw the video. Run the clip, bro.

1000
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 8: I was so bored watching watching that fight. The only

1001
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 8: thing excited about that fight was the last ten seconds.

1002
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 8: To be honest, I didn't see any technique in that

1003
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 8: that fight. I didn't see any strategy. I didn't see

1004
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 8: any thing. I just saw a bar fight. It was

1005
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 8: very spectacular for the fans, but for me as a professional,

1006
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 8: it was a i don't know, not something very impressive.

1007
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 6: I mean, if I said otherwise, it is what it is.

1008
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 8: But I challenge you to have that that exchange, but

1009
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 8: in the first ten seconds of the fight, and you

1010
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 8: will see what's going to happen when you face a

1011
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 8: fighter like me inside the octagon who brings that technique

1012
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 8: and that power. You can't do that. I'm gonna take

1013
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 8: your hand if you find out find out in the

1014
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 8: first ten seconds.

1015
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 6: We're gonna find you love that.

1016
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: You get tired every time, really.

1017
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: Guitared, I can talk.

1018
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 8: I get ted to knocking people outs.

1019
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: By the way, I gotta say, let me just interject here,

1020
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: like calling himself champion on his Instagram before he beats Volkanoski,

1021
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: everyone was like the nerveless motherfucker. Then he knocks him out. Now,

1022
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen against Max, but having

1023
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: that like fake BMF belt over the shoulder, dude, he

1024
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: irritates people. I get it, and I fucking love it.

1025
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: Look, I don't love it like you do, but I

1026
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: respect it. I respect that he is so cocky and

1027
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: so in belief of his abilities and strengths that he'll

1028
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: flaunt it on that level. Again, I don't think you

1029
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: break Max with that, you maybe give Max a lot

1030
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: to think about. And it is interesting, you know, the

1031
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: signature right here, like he did against Lamas, like he

1032
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: did against Gai Chee at the end of the fight,

1033
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: at the end of that five round fight. What about

1034
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: in the opening ten seconds? It's really about and this

1035
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 3: interview played into that a lot to Poria believes Luke

1036
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 3: that not only is his power the difference in this matchup,

1037
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: which I think, you know, in a generic sense it

1038
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: might be, but he really believes his boxing is light

1039
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: years ahead of Max, and went on multiple times to

1040
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: break down not just sort of making fun of the

1041
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: gates you win as some street brawl or bar brawl,

1042
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: but really saying in general, he doesn't think Max moves

1043
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: his head enough. He doesn't think Max throws pinpoint precise punches.

1044
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 3: Is he making points here, Luke.

1045
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Max moves his head a little bit, but not. I mean, again,

1046
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: is there validity to a degree about what Ilia is saying? Yes?

1047
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: Is he also to a degree overstating it for effect? Yes? Right,

1048
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: So it's not one or the other, it's a little

1049
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: bit of both. I mean there are I would say this,

1050
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: I think of the two, you know, in terms of

1051
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: like the full body of boxing ability. It's more central

1052
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum to pour his game, and he is,

1053
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: at least in terms of the record overall, a more

1054
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: dynamic power puncher. But Max has a phenomenal jab. He

1055
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: has great tactical awareness. Obviously you saw how his power

1056
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: translit at one forty five. We'll talk about this in

1057
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I think the one thing I'm

1058
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: looking at BC is to what extent does going from

1059
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: forty five to fifty five back down to forty five

1060
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: when we know that forty five cut is hard and

1061
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: you already were kind of accustomed to fifty five, what

1062
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: that does to both his ability to take a shot

1063
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: perform and then also what it does to his power punching.

1064
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: So like, these are some questions, and again I won't

1065
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: know the answer that we watch, but it's something that

1066
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: I'll be kind of paying attention to. So yes, Ilia

1067
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: has some smoother forms of technique overall than Max, but

1068
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: Max is obviously a very, very very capable boxer.

1069
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: In MMA Long Island Austine rules, Luke, can we see

1070
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: the third clip here?

1071
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 6: Is this talking until October twenty six? The case door

1072
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 6: is closing made a bit of men win and no.

1073
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 8: One's gonna pay the ones that said that case gonna

1074
00:53:59,680 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: be close.

1075
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 6: My friend actually correct the referee repent there.

1076
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 8: Night for the first time. Trust me, try and then

1077
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 8: instant fans, instant fans see, and you already know how

1078
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 8: it feels when you have to bounce back. You already

1079
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: have a seven professional defeat. I had zero, So you're

1080
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 8: gonna do it once. I get him really well. I

1081
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 8: don't have any doubts about that. You are a great

1082
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 8: example of that, and you have to stay.

1083
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 6: I took a lot of people who don'tnuts. Bro, I

1084
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 6: hope you like chiros because you're about to get one

1085
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 6: collect over twenty six.

1086
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Buddy, I don't quite get that one because the is

1087
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: like a long stick you think about it.

1088
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: It took me a few minutes, but the doughnut is

1089
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: a zero. So he's taken a lot of people's un

1090
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: beating records, and he says, I hope you like chios

1091
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: because I have the same reaction at first of you

1092
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: of like Max, what kind of kind of trash talk

1093
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 3: we do in here?

1094
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: Bro? This ain't good?

1095
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: But I get it now, dude, I cannot wait for this.

1096
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: And we had an off camera conversation with our crew.

1097
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: Do you believe that the winner of this fight is

1098
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: the fighter of the year.

1099
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I can't believe this is even a debate.

1100
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: It's not a question about whether, like what.

1101
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: Deserves to be in a debate when we're talking about Poeton.

1102
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: So don't don't take the too high in mighty.

1103
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: People think this is an indictment of Poeton. It's not.

1104
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: It's not an indictment of him. It's not a question

1105
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: about like hat. Okay, so let me let me back

1106
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: up a step. If the winner of the three to

1107
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: zero eight main event is like controversial or they eked

1108
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: it out, I cannot imagine the fight will suck. But

1109
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: let's you know, stranger things have happened, right in a

1110
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: situation like that, where like no one really was like

1111
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: because the presumption is that Max is so good and

1112
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: that Ilia is so good that in order to beat them,

1113
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to show an incredible amount of skill, durability,

1114
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, preparation, the whole nine yards, And if for

1115
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: some reason the fight doesn't show that, then we have

1116
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: a different conversation. Okay, I'm assuming that no matter who wins,

1117
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficul for them, Right, guys, this

1118
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: is not an argument about whether Poeton is good, really

1119
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: good or excellent. It's got really nothing to do with it,

1120
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: and in fact it's not even really an argument. That

1121
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: is what he did in the course of one hundred

1122
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: and seventy five days very very impressive. Yes, of course

1123
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: it is. It is extremely impressive. However, the quality of

1124
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: opposition at two oh five in twenty twenty four in

1125
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: terms of what Poeton has faced versus the difficulty in

1126
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: task about what it would mean to either beat Volkanovsky

1127
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: in Max Holloway in the same year or up aweight

1128
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Class fifty five BMF title back to forty five and

1129
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: then beating Iliya all in the same year, These are

1130
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: vastly different levels of quality in terms of opponents. I

1131
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: know Europe Hotschka was a champion. He doesn't have defense

1132
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: like he literally doesn't even use defense at all. He

1133
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: makes all kinds of suboptimal decisions in the course of

1134
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: a fight like. I don't know how you can look

1135
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: past that. Jamal Hill certainly was a champion as well,

1136
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: and I think has some ability. It's a good win.

1137
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a great win, and same thing

1138
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: with Khalil Rountree, who promised to not even take him down,

1139
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Like these are things that like these are luxuries that

1140
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: a guy like either Max or Ilia would never be

1141
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: afforded in terms of the quality of the opposition. And

1142
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: one more thing I want to say. I know folks

1143
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: are making it out to be like, well, well volk

1144
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: was coming off of that knockout BC. I'm not here

1145
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: to say that that didn't play a role at all.

1146
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm pointing out. But we had seen

1147
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: Volkanovski peel out head up like that against many other

1148
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: opponents who were not able to take advantage of it.

1149
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: So Pooria a dynamic power puncher. Like the idea that

1150
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: any featherweight on that night could have done what Taporia

1151
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: did to him, to me, is completely not understanding what

1152
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: actually transpired there. And in the case of Max, I

1153
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: understand that he's a little bit longer in the tooth,

1154
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 1: and you know, he does have some miles on him,

1155
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: But he just scored one of I won't call it

1156
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: his best wins because he finished Jose Aldo back to back. Now,

1157
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: that is about as impressive as it gets. So I

1158
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: can't rank the justin Gatschee win as high as that. However,

1159
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: Max is a former champion in all time great at

1160
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: one forty five. On top of it, just got one

1161
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: of the best, not his best win, but one of

1162
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: the best wins of his career up aweight class and

1163
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: is now back to fighting for a title because he's

1164
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: beaten basically every other person at one forty five. This

1165
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: is a quality that, either in the case of Taporia

1166
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: or Max, that is so far beyond what Pooton has

1167
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: had to go up against. The difficult thing to that

1168
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: Pooton has done is take on I would call good

1169
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: fighters under very difficult conditions, short notice, injured, that kind

1170
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: of thing that makes it very, very impressive. But I'm

1171
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: sorry if we're asking what is harder to do beat

1172
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: an all time great at one two two all time

1173
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: greats at one forty five or a go up to

1174
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: a fifty five and then beat basically the next generation

1175
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: guy at forty five? Is that more difficult to do

1176
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: than beating good not great fighters. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I like, how is this even a fucking debate?

1178
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: Okay, this is gonna be a fun debate in two months.

1179
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I outwardly disagree with you, but I

1180
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: think you're being a little too heavy handed and not

1181
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: bringing nuance in. And the nuance in this case is

1182
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: I get you could say good not great fighters. Two

1183
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: of the three were world.

1184
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: Champions, So yeah, at two five though.

1185
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 3: I get that that division is division arguably the worst

1186
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: right now in men's UFC. But we're talking three wins,

1187
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: We're talking the three title defenses in a record amount,

1188
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: and I think at some level you have to take

1189
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: into account that two of those were extreme last minute

1190
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: on the biggest cards possible. Look, it's gonna be a

1191
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: fun debate. I will say this, though. If Tapuria does

1192
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: what he's promised and finishes Max Holloway and becomes the

1193
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: first person to do it, and his twenty twenty four

1194
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: is knocking out Volkanovsky and knocking out Holloway, yeah that

1195
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: might close the debate under those circumstances. But this is

1196
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna be very reminiscent of twenty nineteen a debate I'm

1197
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: not done arguing, by the way, when the rest of

1198
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: the world wanted to reward Horee Maswell on a fantastic

1199
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: turnaround in year and three victories and becoming an overnight

1200
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: star and all of that out of sign you got

1201
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: robbed that year. I just wanted to put that back

1202
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: out on the record. Yes, Brandon Wise and Brent Brookhouse

1203
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: of CBS Sports, I'm looking at you, guys.

1204
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: Okay. So I mean here's the thing, Like, in a

1205
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: circumstance like that, it's like, could you call Maswdal Fighter

1206
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: of the Year. I mean, he's certainly in the running.

1207
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean had a bare minimum, right, you would agree

1208
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: with that, like he deserves consideration, but maybe like it

1209
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: would have been better for like breakout fighter, you know

1210
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. And also, I want to be clear,

1211
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: even if Taporia ends up kaoing volcan KOing Max, which

1212
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't think of ko Max, but let's just say, right,

1213
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: let's just say he does that, that still doesn't mean

1214
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: he was as important for the UFC as Poeton, or

1215
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: certainly he wouldn't put him in a place where he

1216
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: developed his like he became as popular an attraction and

1217
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: like as an adore a figure as Poton. Pooton has

1218
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: had an incredible, incredible year. He has been in certain

1219
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: ways like he has saved twenty twenty four, in ways

1220
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: that even if Tuporia gets those wins wouldn't put him

1221
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: on the level of what like Poton has done. So

1222
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, like Pooton has done something

1223
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: for us as fans in twenty twenty four that even

1224
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: with a KO of Max Holloway, like listen to listen

1225
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: to what I am saying, like that is almost impossible

1226
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: for me to even imagine even with that, it wouldn't

1227
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: put him on the same level of importance in terms

1228
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: of what Poetson has given us. But I'm sorry, you

1229
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: have to evaluate the level of fighter we are talking

1230
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: about here. No one at two oh five is he's

1231
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: different because that's one eighty five, But no one, no one,

1232
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 1: no one at two oh five that uh Poeton has

1233
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: faced has even an approximate level of skill relative to

1234
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: Max Holloway or Alexander Volkanovsky. Two of the Alexander Volkanowski

1235
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: was pound for pound number one pound four pound.

1236
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: If you're gonna recognize the nuances of why you're bringing

1237
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: Poeton down, you do have to recognize the nuances of

1238
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: alex coming off of the head kick KO. And I

1239
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 3: know you said that earlier, but I'm just saying.

1240
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: I definitely, I definitely think it affected him I definitely

1241
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: feel like it takes the win down a notch. I

1242
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: do agree with that, but like I'm sorry, I still

1243
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: think that Volkanovsky, who so Pooria loss to Is, beats

1244
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: almost every other featherweight that night, not maybe not every

1245
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: single one, but just about it. Because here's what's really happening.

1246
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: What's really happening is people just don't like to pour you,

1247
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: which we all would agree with people just.

1248
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: By proxy you Luke, okay, okay, fair enough, fair enough.

1249
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: But what I feel like is happening there is that

1250
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: people really like Poeton and again he did beat good fighters.

1251
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he beat bums or scrubs. He beat

1252
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: good fighters. But what's happening is people are wanting to

1253
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: use one they dislike to Puria as a reason to

1254
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: explain fight results. Oh you know what Volkanowski has coming up?

1255
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: The head kick, It matters, But they're saying that's why

1256
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: to Pouria won. That plays, it plays a role, it

1257
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: plays a role. But the reason why he won is

1258
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: because he was able to trap a guy against the

1259
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: fence and he has blinding one punch knockout power. And

1260
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: if you can't appreciate that, I feel like you're probably

1261
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: going to be in for a rude awakening as his continues.

1262
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 3: Yep. And maybe if if Poeton had fought Ankliav instead

1263
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: of Roundtree and how to win that could have.

1264
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: Changed that would change it a little bit, yes, but three.

1265
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 3: Wins in that succession hard to overcome. Let's pit a

1266
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: pin in that debate for late December when we certainly

1267
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: have that, all right, Luke, our third topic will take

1268
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: us to what's going down inside the Apex on Saturday.

1269
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: We back Baby, were back with a bang or a

1270
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: bung hole. It's going to be a fantastic flyweight feature

1271
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: inside the Apex when former title challenger multi or sorry,

1272
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: former title chander will leave like that Brandon Roival and

1273
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: by the way, friend of the program, yeah, raw dog

1274
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: in it is going to welcome Japanese Sensation six and

1275
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: zero inside the octagon. Tatsuro Tyra just twenty four years old,

1276
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: and boy is that man happy all of the damn time,

1277
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas. As we speak right now, DraftKings offering Tatsuro

1278
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: Tyra as a minus two ninety eight betting favorite and

1279
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: a plus two forty Roival, who don't forget only losses

1280
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: in the UFC came against the last two champions, Pantosia

1281
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: and Moreno, and he just beat Moreno in their rematch

1282
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: by split decision over five rounds at altitude.

1283
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: I believe too.

1284
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: In Mexico City, Luke Thomas, are you okay with these

1285
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: betting odds which seem to illustrate that Tatsuro Tyra is

1286
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 3: coming on right now?

1287
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: They're a little strong to me, They're a little strong

1288
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke, do you consider these a little that's wrong?

1289
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm avoiding the money line. Like dude, Roy Vall

1290
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 5: earlier in the week was plus one ninety five. Now

1291
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 5: he's plus two forty. I kind of like him now

1292
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: if you're gonna take a dog. But uh, I'm going

1293
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: with the over one and a half in this way.

1294
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: All right, I mean, this is sort of my view

1295
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: on the whole thing. Be see is that I'm it

1296
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: seems a little okay. So what would be Tyra's best way,

1297
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: most likely path to victory. You've got a guy in

1298
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: Royval who's got a ridiculous chin, who's very experienced, who

1299
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: does take risks, but I feel like is much better

1300
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: about managing that as we go forward, and to your point,

1301
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: it's coming off of a winner, reformer champion Brandon Marino.

1302
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: I went back and I watched that fight in preparation

1303
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: for today's show, and you know, you see a lot

1304
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: of openings for sure, but this is a much more measured, calculated,

1305
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: skillful guy than it was even a two years ago

1306
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: or so. The way that I could imagine Tyra getting

1307
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: to win is because the takedown defense of Brandon Royval

1308
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: is not great, and Tyra has wrestling good passing, mount back,

1309
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: he can really control position, dominate from there, passing, you know,

1310
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: good ground and pound, like that's he's that's really really

1311
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: where he excels. And so for that reason, I definitely

1312
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: understand the value of putting in there. Plus he's coming

1313
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: off of that Alex Perez win. It's just the thing

1314
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: for me is this PC Like the wins he had

1315
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: are great. That he had the Petz win, which was like, Okay,

1316
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: he's at you know obviously with a very high level.

1317
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he would have needed maybe one more

1318
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: before Royval fight. But the reality at flyweight is it's like, hey,

1319
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: are you good? Title fight? You know what I mean?

1320
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: Like Steve flat Lines, Matt Schnell and they're like title fight,

1321
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: and he performed pretty good for the most part in

1322
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: that fight. Obviously the you couldn't follow up against Kye

1323
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: car France. But you see what I mean.

1324
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: Please tell that to Mokaya, all right, Lokaya didn't have offense.

1325
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: Wekayev had control and good defense, but he didn't really

1326
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: have offense. Tyra's got offense, like he absolutely will lay

1327
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: it on you. It's just that, like as good as

1328
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: he is, and he's good, I do think he deserves

1329
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: to be the favorite. But at minus three hundred, I.

1330
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 3: Know so, like he is a finisher. He's got meaning

1331
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 3: Tyra four stoppages in six UFC wins, although the Alex

1332
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: pres stoppage did come due to an injury, but Tyro

1333
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 3: was putting it on him. And I certainly get what

1334
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: you illustrated with the gap in perceived ground ability. Yeah,

1335
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: Royvald does get taken down. He doesn't though Link gets

1336
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: He's never really forced to linger there for the most part.

1337
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, when Moreno would take him down, Royvaal would

1338
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: find a way to click quickly work back to his feet,

1339
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: and certainly Royvald from a submission standpoint, it can handle

1340
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: himself fine on the ground. I do identify that Tyra

1341
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: is a bigger finisher threat, whether on the feet or

1342
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: on the ground, has explosive striking. Luke, he has a

1343
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: way to blend all parts of his game with just

1344
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: seamless flow. I mean, Tyro looks absolutely legit in that aspect,

1345
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: but he hasn't never been past three rounds in his career,

1346
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 3: and you Royval kind of known for his cardio. He's

1347
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: coming off back to back five round fights and had

1348
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: one back in his early days when he when he

1349
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: lost to Casey, Kenny and LFA. So that advantage, big

1350
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: fight advantage certainly will be in his favor. But really

1351
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: it seems like the odds makers are identifying as this

1352
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: guy's coming on and if you beat Brandon Roival right here,

1353
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: you will be fit for a title opportunity. So I

1354
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 3: also agree that the odds don't fully tell the story.

1355
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: But Luke, would you be surprised in the end? Tell

1356
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: me the truth if Tyra not only one but finished him.

1357
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: Would you be shocked by ground and pound? Yes? By submission? No,

1358
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: I could see him getting a submission. I just feel

1359
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: like polishing him off with strikes. It could be done.

1360
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: It could be done. It's just that I would I

1361
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: would be much more surprised by that. But like you know,

1362
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: Rouville will take risks. He does engage in scrambles on

1363
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: the ground and like that kind of thing. You know,

1364
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: if you're the one initiating to scramble, and obviously there's

1365
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: a skilled disparity, you're gonna end up coming up on

1366
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: top and doing much better against Tyra. I don't know

1367
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: how that's gonna go. But you know, Tyra, five rounds

1368
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: against an opponent like this, a very very battle tested opponent,

1369
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Man, that's a lot to deal with.

1370
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: So I understand the enthusiasm behind Tyra. I am high

1371
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: on him. He's very good. He probably should win, but

1372
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: I can't lose. I just don't want to disrespect a

1373
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: guy coming off of a win of a Brandon moreno on,

1374
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: like a deserved one at that.

1375
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: Look, do you think if roy Val does get the

1376
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: win that he's in a bit of a dead end

1377
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: trap Considering he's zero and two against Pantojia, got submitted

1378
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one and then lost a competitive five

1379
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 3: round decision in their title rematch in December. Would he

1380
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: be sol even with a big one here.

1381
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I think they kind of expect him

1382
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 1: to lose, you know what I mean, Like he's just

1383
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: gonna Rich Franklin his way back to Anderson Silva again,

1384
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: Like what does that do for you? You know? So

1385
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: I think that they're I mean, but also I'll say

1386
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: this about Pantoja, He's like he's very underappreciated. But I'm sorry, dude,

1387
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: you can't take that much damage in the way that

1388
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: he does without that showing up eventually, Like it's going

1389
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: it's going to get him. So like Pantojo, I'm not

1390
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna lose his next fight. That's really another

1391
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: the point I'm making, but like he's not. He's not

1392
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: going to keep it that much longer.

1393
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: And so yeah, Long Island revealing Long Island Luke revealing

1394
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: to us that both fighters made the weight one hundred

1395
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: and twenty five and a half pounds, obviously a non

1396
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: title bout, they can both go as high as one

1397
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: twenty six here.

1398
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: In your Fight Night main event.

1399
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: Royval wasn't last week to help a teammate in Sawt

1400
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 3: Lake City. Luken was part of the group of fighters

1401
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: who rushed to the aid of a shooting victim that

1402
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 3: that died in front of them, which it's wild, and

1403
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: Royval was asked about it this week and really just

1404
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 3: said like, unfortunately, I'm I'm a ship magnet to these

1405
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: type of things. I've been in and around a lot

1406
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: of crazy situations and in those fight fighters are bill different, Luke.

1407
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: I mean, when shit does go down, they they do

1408
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 3: run after it. I mean, you know, for better or worse.

1409
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: They're they're brave individuals. But that's not what I want

1410
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: to talk about with raw dog Royval. He showed up

1411
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: on the shaq MMA channel this week, you know, Shaquille

1412
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: Masjori of CBS Sports. He still text me a lot,

1413
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: very MK friendly gentleman. Please retweet him please, I mean,

1414
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: good lord, right, help the kid out and ask he doesn't.

1415
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 3: He caught up with Roy Ball and asked him an

1416
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: MK centric question that I'm sure you'll enjoy.

1417
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 7: Who do you think would be more fun to get

1418
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 7: stoned with? Luke Thomas or Brian Campbell?

1419
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 8: Ah?

1420
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: Fuck man, Brian Campbell for sure.

1421
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: Brian Brian Campbell seems so fun.

1422
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 7: Luke Thomas, I feel like we need get like Stone

1423
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 7: and just talk like just serious shit, you know, Brian

1424
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 7: Campbell just be FUNI shit though. Yeah, Never before have

1425
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 7: I seen someone who needs weed as much as Luke

1426
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 7: Thomas and who looks like they smoke weed as much

1427
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,480
Speaker 7: as Brian Campbell.

1428
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 8: Compliment each other?

1429
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: Really well? I love that show.

1430
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: Wait, first of all, the check just send both of

1431
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: us to hell.

1432
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yes, he did, Yes he did? He just yeah,

1433
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: you keep asking me to retweet you fuck face.

1434
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: I will say, the contrary to Royval's opinion on you, you

1435
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: are very fun.

1436
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: To be around in those elements, Luke. Okay, the problem

1437
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: don't realize is I have too much anxiety all the

1438
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: fucking time, man, you know what I mean, Like it's

1439
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: hard for me.

1440
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, But off camera you're the I get labeled as

1441
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, the jokester on this show. Although most people

1442
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 3: hate my comedy, Luke, including my family. But I will

1443
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: say that, you know, off camera you will you you

1444
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: hold it down. Luke, You're a very fun hanging in

1445
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 3: that regard.

1446
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: But I try, I try. I mean three Margarita's deep.

1447
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna get, you know what

1448
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1449
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: Go there you go?

1450
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 8: Uh?

1451
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: Luke? What are you You're gonna have to make a

1452
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: pick here, right, So the odds are where they are.

1453
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: The reminder once again, plus two forty on DraftKings is

1454
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: Royval minus two ninety eight, Tyra, which way are you leaning?

1455
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: And what's the uh? How does it happen?

1456
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 1: So it sounds like I'm pegging an I am. Actually,

1457
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: if if I was to bet money, I would take

1458
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: the underdog because of the value. Right. I just don't

1459
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: feel like that. That seems like a lot. I mean,

1460
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time seeing him going in

1461
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: there and just muscling Brendan Weibl around for twenty five minutes.

1462
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: That seems like a lot. But I do think Tyra's

1463
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: very very talented. I do. He's very good. He also

1464
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: makes errors and he does get hit at times unfortunately.

1465
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: In always that like you can see how off balance

1466
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: he is. I feel like Royville has really cleaned a

1467
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff up.

1468
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,480
Speaker 3: His kicking. Give Royvale credit. His kicking game is solid.

1469
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: Yes, and in all different kinds of distances, all different

1470
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: kinds of setups. Like I think on the feet he'll

1471
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: be a big problem. The thing is the wrestling, and

1472
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: it got him by the way, the wrestling got him

1473
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: in trouble against Pantojia too, you know what I mean,

1474
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: because he has a black belt jiu jitsu himself. It's

1475
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: just that the wrestling, I think he's like sub fifty

1476
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: percent with takedown defense. That's that's tough to get around

1477
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: against a guy this good.

1478
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you.

1479
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tyro by decision. That's that's probably about right.

1480
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 1: I think Royval's very tough, very skilled, again, very battle tested.

1481
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: He's not gonna go quietly. But I think they're no.

1482
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: He's gonna make Tyra earn it. We're gonna find out

1483
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: a lot about Tatsuro in this fight. Does he look

1484
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 3: coming from Japan? We haven't had a big Japanese star

1485
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: in UFC in a long time? Right? Am I forgetting

1486
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 3: someone badly? I mean, do you have if he wins

1487
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: this and maybe this would get him into a title fight.

1488
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 3: He just stopped the title former title challenger in Perez.

1489
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: Would you say that he does have like breakout potential

1490
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: on the other side of the world here.

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01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to know. I don't know how the Japanese

1492
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: receive him. I don't really know what his star power

1493
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: is there. Obviously, we're very familiar with what Noya in

1494
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: Away does, but you know, he's a very very unique case.

1495
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: It's so funny, dude. Like when I got into the sport,

1496
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: the Japanese dominated dominated. They didn't necessarily have anyone at

1497
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: like heavyweight who was all that great, maybe closer down

1498
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: to middleweight and down like Yoshinokami or whatever, you know,

1499
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,440
Speaker 1: but they had so many talented fighters in so many organizations,

1500
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: in so many different weight classes, male and female, and

1501
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: that has declined so badly. And by the way, I

1502
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: don't think it's just Tyra. I think, you know, ras Ruya,

1503
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of other guys as well who kind

1504
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: of represent like a new class of Japanese fighter. I

1505
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: don't know which one of them is going to be

1506
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: a breakout star, but I feel like one of them

1507
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: is going to hit and it's overdue. I don't think

1508
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: American fans really understand what it means to have MMA

1509
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: where the Japanese have prominent, decorated, celebrated figures, which would

1510
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: allow the UFC or whichever promotion to go back to

1511
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: Japan and really experience the show in a very different

1512
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: fun way. I hope that one of them does, whether

1513
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: it will be Tira somebody else. I don't know.

1514
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: Could you imagine UFC at the Tokyo Dome in twenty

1515
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: twenty five or six or seven?

1516
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: I mean, what would would they do a show in

1517
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: a venue that big?

1518
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: They don't like doing it that way. No, but what

1519
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 3: if you were doing Tatsuro Tatsuro Tyra defending his UFC

1520
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: flyweight title against Kayastakura. Are they in the same weight class?

1521
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? They are right?

1522
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

1523
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: I think Asakura's bantamweight. Oh, you're right? I just did

1524
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: I did?

1525
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 3: I just ruin that long island.

1526
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Look you know better? You know? You know?

1527
01:15:59,320 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

1528
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: Are you sure?

1529
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 5: Brandon Royvall said this week he was offered the fight

1530
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 5: against Ka.

1531
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was a flyway I am I

1532
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: out of am I out of my mind? I could

1533
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: well be. I could well be. Maybe you were out

1534
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: of your head. Yeah.

1535
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 5: MMA Fighting posted a day ago and interview with roy

1536
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 5: Vall saying he turned down the Assacara fight.

1537
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 3: All right, well it is one division north, so it's

1538
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 3: not insane. But there you go.

1539
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, what am I missing here? Uh?

1540
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: Luke? Can I have you comment about the nubs that

1541
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 3: we're going to see from the co main event all

1542
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: the way down. Maybe we won't see it. Maybe we'll

1543
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,879
Speaker 3: be watching BEV all better Beev. But give me something

1544
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: to care about on this undercar, I'll be watching Corey

1545
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: McKenna shout out there. She's a good artist.

1546
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: Luke outside of the cage.

1547
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 3: Uh, but uh, I don't know if I'm going to

1548
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: watch any of the other one should I?

1549
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: So I'll just go down the list and say, like

1550
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: what you can watch for. Uh. Jung Yong Park is

1551
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: aggressive and throws power punches against Brad Tavares. That could

1552
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: be fun, not really?

1553
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1554
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: Maybe No. Grant Dawson is trying to rebuild after that

1555
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: last loss he had, which I think went kind of

1556
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,480
Speaker 1: poorly for him. But I do think he's very talented.

1557
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: Do you Rod against Alex Moreno as fun?

1558
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that fight's gonna bang. Do you Rod fighting for

1559
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 3: his life right now?

1560
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: Of course he is. That's a fun fight. Pat Sabatini

1561
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: again kind of also trying to rebuild a little bit

1562
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: after a tough loss against Jonathan Pierce. That's that, you know.

1563
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: I always look up the.

1564
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: Price, dude. I didn't even realize that as I rocked

1565
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 3: Nice price right here, written Nico Price in the house.

1566
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: The interesting one to me is when I say interesting,

1567
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: i'm you know, I'm again, relatively speaking, Junior Tapa taking

1568
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: on Sean Sharoff. Now, this was supposed to be Chris Barnett,

1569
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: the Big the Huggy Bear Donk, but he couldn't make

1570
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 1: it because I think he's I think he was affected

1571
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: by the hurricanes, so he's having some issues. Obviously, wish

1572
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: the best for him. This guy he's fighting Sharoff is

1573
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,839
Speaker 1: coming on a short notice, has nothing but first round KOs,

1574
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: which means he is completely untested, but obviously has a

1575
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: dynamite fucking punch, so that could be fun. And then

1576
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: you look at fights like Clayton Carpenter and you know,

1577
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: Lucas Hoche, the guys coming off of Contender Series wins.

1578
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: So if you're a Contender Series fan, you'll catch some

1579
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 1: people here because of that. But you know, it's a

1580
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: lot of overflow.

1581
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 3: Abdul Razak al hass in his back, but like he's

1582
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: kind of cleaned up his style and it's obviously made

1583
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: him better, but it's made him less exciting.

1584
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: So it's like, what do you you know, pick your poison.

1585
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 3: Not to park reporter for taking that tour to that

1586
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: time man finding two Ko's at the bottom.

1587
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: That's a tough that's a tough well one to two act.

1588
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Luke Nociita here for the final time.

1589
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: Let's get your betting advice. You do care, you do

1590
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: care about deep on these UFC Fight Night cards. What's

1591
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: the most value here from a betting stamp.

1592
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 5: I like Alex Morono as a dog against Dee rod Man.

1593
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 5: De Rod's lost three in a row, hasn't won in

1594
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 5: two years. He's fighting better people, given that he bought

1595
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 5: Neil Magni, Ian Gary and uh, who do you just

1596
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 5: fight Kevin Gastolm.

1597
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: But does Morono rotate wins and losses for like four years.

1598
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: In a row.

1599
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Morona's never lost back to back and he's coming

1600
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 5: off a loss, so I don't know. I like the

1601
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 5: value on it. He's gone up too since I got him.

1602
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 5: He's plus one eighty yesterday.

1603
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Also, d Rod thirty seven will be thirty eight in December, exactly.

1604
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 3: I think he's I think the windows closed on d Rod.

1605
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: I love him, but I think it's closed to look bad.

1606
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: He does have some good tattoos.

1607
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 5: I will also say, Dan Argetta versus Cody Hadden. I

1608
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 5: gotta I hate to go against Cody Hadden because he's

1609
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 5: an Australian he's coming off Contender series. But Dan Argett

1610
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 5: is a fat dog against him, and I kind of

1611
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: like Dan Argett and that fight he's got.

1612
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: All Do you always blindly support Australian MA fighters?

1613
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

1614
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 5: Pretty much, especially Australian boxers almost exclusively blindly.

1615
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: Never watched it like a you tim.

1616
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I'm a Timzu guy.

1617
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 5: Gi Opatia is fighting this WEEKND, like you know, I'm

1618
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 5: just betting on him.

1619
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 4: I don't care who he's fighting.

1620
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: I've got a gy Opata story I can tell you

1621
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: off air that is fucking insane.

1622
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 3: My favorite told me my favorite Australian MMA fighter was

1623
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 3: Nadia Cassem.

1624
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 4: Dude, she is terrible.

1625
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 5: Shout out to her for that one time she faked

1626
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 5: a glove touch and then got yes seconds later?

1627
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: Was that against Listmus?

1628
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 3: I don't know?

1629
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: There we go. There, that's all we got. Here's the

1630
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: most important question. Who gives a shit.

1631
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 3: A no cita out? All right? That's that. The fight

1632
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: night goes down Saturday. I don't think Luke is doing

1633
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 3: a reaction to that. But we'll talk about it.

1634
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: No, I mean, what would be the fucking point? No?

1635
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: What would be?

1636
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, let's go back to a new segment here,

1637
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: but an old one. It's back, right, MK, Fridays we're

1638
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 3: gonna have fun and please a reminder Morningcombat at gmail

1639
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 3: dot com. Hey, send in your ideas. What do you

1640
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 3: want to see out of this show?

1641
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 7: Right?

1642
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna see some old You're certainly gonna see some new.

1643
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: How about this oldie buck goodie?

1644
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: We call it over under Mom. We don't have all

1645
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: the imaging yet, not yet.

1646
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: I've got eight scenarios of sort here where I will

1647
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 3: read to you a number and you will say whether

1648
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 3: the scenario is more likely to go over or under

1649
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 3: that number.

1650
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1651
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: Number one, Luke, after staying retired for the past twenty

1652
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: one months, and of course, is the mentor and trainer

1653
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: of Alex Pereira, former UFC champion Glover to Sherer, who

1654
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: turns forty five in two weeks, told them and Ay

1655
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 3: fighting this week that he's not done competing in MMA.

1656
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: Then over under number here is three the amount of

1657
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: top ten UFC light heavyweights that you would favor Glover

1658
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 3: to share to beat.

1659
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna look up the rankings here. So

1660
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: I got so that he would have to pick Let

1661
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: me just go back to the rules of the game.

1662
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: It's not if he beats three, it's he has to

1663
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 1: beat four.

1664
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 3: Right, it's how many you would favor Glover to beat

1665
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: in the top ten.

1666
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: So okay, But if the answer is three, it's not

1667
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: taking the over correct.

1668
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: No, that's a push.

1669
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: All right, very good? All right, top ten? So I

1670
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: can include eleven. So you have Carlos Olberg. Would I

1671
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: pick I don't know, Johnny Walker, Yes, I'd pick Glover

1672
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: over Johnny Walker. Johnny Would I pick Glover over Khalil Rowntree?

1673
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: Not on the feet? Obviously. I think he submits him, right,

1674
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,799
Speaker 1: he could, he could. Nikita Krilov I think his takedown

1675
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: defense has gotten better.

1676
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: That's two. Oh no, No, I've.

1677
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: Only picked one. I'm noncommittal on Olberg. I don't know

1678
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Walker for sure. I think he beats him. Uh Uzdemir,

1679
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't think this Uzdemir. No Rackets, no Blakhovich, no,

1680
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 1: Blohovitch maybe, but no Jamal Hill no, no, So I'm

1681
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: gonna take the under No.

1682
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 3: I don't think Wow So what to close on this

1683
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 3: topic if he did come back, and if it was

1684
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: a big UFC fight. From those last two title fights,

1685
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: we saw both absolute brawls. Obviously the Jamal Hill won,

1686
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 3: he was largely dominated. Though do you think he would

1687
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 3: still have what it takes to be in big fun

1688
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: fights at forty five?

1689
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: I doubt less that it's a skill issue. I think

1690
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: his skill is pretty considerable. And remember, like consider how

1691
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: good he is and when he was in his prime,

1692
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: he couldn't beat the top guys ten years ago, you

1693
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like this, what when I try

1694
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: to explain to people like how bad light have youweight

1695
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: has gotten a much better, fresher version of Glover got

1696
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: waxed by guys like John Jones and Anthony Rubbel Johnson

1697
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: and Gus and like this is this is what I mean.

1698
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: I do think he's more skillful than a lot of

1699
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: these guys, but at forty five, at forty five more

1700
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: generally plus to the point you're talking about, we're like, dude,

1701
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: like some of those like that fight against Yerie, Like,

1702
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: how could anyone be the same after something.

1703
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 3: That's going to take years off the back end?

1704
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: Seriously? Mean, that's what I mean so for that reason,

1705
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: I believe in his skill, yes I do, but the

1706
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: body gives out. Man, I I trd me to look

1707
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: the other way.

1708
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: I'd almost let him have a BMF bight because that's

1709
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 3: all they're gonna be at this point, right, you know, like,

1710
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: because he's got so much dog in him, the skills

1711
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: are a little diminished. He'll have success on the ground

1712
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 3: at times, but eventually it's going to be a war.

1713
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's a slugger, but uh, we'll see

1714
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 3: what happens. I do love I love Glover, and I

1715
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 3: hope if he does fight, he fights with the full

1716
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 3: gray beard, because he looks like a He looks like

1717
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: your old neighbor who's a plumber and would kick anyone's

1718
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: ass if they crossed onto his yard, you know.

1719
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. But also if you had to borrow his leaf blower,

1720
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: he'd let you, and he'd be cool about it, you

1721
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: know yeah, well unless you didn't bring it back. No, no, no,

1722
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like you, if you were also a

1723
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: good neighbor, he'd be cool about it.

1724
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 4: There you go, all right?

1725
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 3: Number two on over under Luke. We are eight days

1726
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 3: out from the October nineteenth PFL super Fights Battle of

1727
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: the Giants pay per view. That's a long title in

1728
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 3: ri Od Saudi Arabia featuring thirty eight year old Francis

1729
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: and Ganho. Finally returning to MMA after a thirty two

1730
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: month layoff, He'll take on PFL heavyweight champion. I believe

1731
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 3: Hennan Fajeda, all six foot eight of him. So our

1732
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 3: over under number here is one and a half the

1733
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 3: total amount of MMA fights that Francis and Ghanu will

1734
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: have inside the pfl'smart cage. I asked you this on

1735
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: this segment two plus years ago. The problem is, Francis

1736
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: never came back to MMA, right thirty two month layoff here,

1737
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: So Luke Thomas one and a half, counting the Fajeda fight,

1738
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 3: the total amount of MMA fights that in Ghanu will

1739
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: have in the PFL.

1740
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. So I think I'm gonna

1741
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: take the over. And the reason why is because I

1742
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: do believe that. For example, if Francis wanted to go

1743
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,879
Speaker 1: back to boxing and set up a fight against Deontay Wilder,

1744
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: would Turkey pay for that? I do think he would.

1745
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I do how much, I don't know, you know, I

1746
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: don't think it'd be the same kind of check you

1747
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: got against Anthony Joshua at this point, but it'd be good.

1748
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: It'd still be a healthy, nice sized check. People would

1749
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: still want to see two dynamic punchers. Even if you

1750
01:25:53,439 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: know Wilder is I mean, fucking tsunami washed? Well is he?

1751
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's be honest about that. We

1752
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: love Dantay Wilder. He's been great for American boxing. Have

1753
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: or flawed he's been. He's fucking washed. I mean, just

1754
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:14,759
Speaker 1: whiz aushed. Okay, I'm gonna take the over because Francis

1755
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: has said this week that he intends to be in

1756
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: the game until he's like forty forty one or so,

1757
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: and I think he was he thirty seven, thirty eight,

1758
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: now around thirty eight, So I think for that reason

1759
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: he'll have at least another crack, Like is he really

1760
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna fight for the PFL just once? I am skeptical

1761
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: given what he has said and given how he still

1762
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: has options in boxing, but they're not necessarily all that great.

1763
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: If he loses to Fajeda, especially if like he dominates

1764
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: them early or something, they could just do another one

1765
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: of those give me the over all, Right, there you go?

1766
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: Maybe I should have gone up to about two or

1767
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: two and a half on that, But it's like, yeah,

1768
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: I could see a scenario that winner lose against Bejeda.

1769
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: The boxing opportunity aren't what they were, and he takes

1770
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 3: a couple pay per view fights because that's what they're

1771
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 3: That's why they give him all that money and give

1772
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: him all that control. This is what it's all about.

1773
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 3: Finally it's happening. But you do never know, Luke, you

1774
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 3: never know. You never know if he knocks out Fajita

1775
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: and then finds new life in boxing and he's like, sorry, sorry,

1776
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 3: smart cage. Do you never have the smart cage?

1777
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this,

1778
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: because the scary possibility. I want to be very clear

1779
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: about this. Francis has been a much better fighter and

1780
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: has beaten much better guys than Henn and Fajeda. About that,

1781
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: there is simply not even an ounce of debate. But

1782
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: hen and Fijeda is enormous and has a gigantic punch,

1783
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: and if you just watch him in PFL, he's got

1784
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: the dim mock. He touches people and they just they

1785
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: turned to dust. Okay, it is very possible he could

1786
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 1: knock out Francis and GANI like, that is a real

1787
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: thing that could totally happen if you were Francis's manager

1788
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: and let's say he does get viciously knocked out in

1789
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: the first round, what do you do with him?

1790
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean he got kt f old against in god

1791
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: who Like. I talked to people who know him and said, like,

1792
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: that was Joshua against Joshua, sorry against Joshua. That was

1793
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: a legitimately tough mental and physical recovery from that, Like,

1794
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: that's dude. I talked to Glenn Feldman, the judge from

1795
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: my town here Luken, Connecticut, who was there judging that night.

1796
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: I was like, have you seen anyone take a beating

1797
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: that vicious in a short period of time with a

1798
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 3: couple knockdowns? He was like, in my history, I've never

1799
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 3: seen that type of just I mean, just tee him

1800
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: up and just the here comes the boom, Luke ready

1801
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: or not? Here comes the boys from him.

1802
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I hate to bring it up, but it's just a

1803
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: reality when you're talking about someone's focus, you know, ability

1804
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 1: to do the work. I mean, he had a terrible

1805
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: tragedy in his life, right, like a profound one, a

1806
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: life altering one. You know, I don't want to bring

1807
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: that up as like some kind of thing. We want

1808
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: to discuss it too much, but we can't like pretend

1809
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: that it doesn't. It could go either way, right right,

1810
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, Like, dude, Hen and Fahanna

1811
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: could actually do it. However, the flip side BC, what

1812
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: if Francis goes in there and just lowers the fucking

1813
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: boom on this guy. I honestly feel like he could

1814
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 1: change some of his fortunes around getting a better boxing

1815
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: fight again. If he does that. I agree with that.

1816
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I do agree with that.

1817
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 3: Let's go to number three on over Under Luke. This Saturday,

1818
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: shout him out. Oscar Willis of the Mac Life will

1819
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 3: be making his bare knuckle boxing debut at BKFC Marbea

1820
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: in Spain. This is also the first card into his

1821
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 3: ownes and I'm sorry. In bkfc's new deal with the

1822
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 3: Zone so much bigger platform, Oscar will be taking on

1823
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: fellow journalists Ben the Baine Davis, both, by the way,

1824
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: gave hilarious speeches at the press conference yesterday. I'm happy

1825
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 3: for both their maniacs though. Just let that be known.

1826
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 3: Luke the over under in this case is three and

1827
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,440
Speaker 3: a half. The amount one of illegal substances, whether recreational

1828
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 3: drugs or peds, that Oscar Willis will have in his

1829
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: blood stream when he steps through the ropes of that

1830
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 3: circle to take on the bane.

1831
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: The amount of illegal substances in Oscar Willis's bloodstream in

1832
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: Saturday's BKFC. I'm gonna take the under, not because I

1833
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: think he's clean, but because I don't think he's smart

1834
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: enough to juggle four or more drugs at once.

1835
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're gonna take the under. So you're probably

1836
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 3: thinking like three, what like two recreational drugs in one, Like, yeah.

1837
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: He's got he's got pain killers, steroids obviously, uh, and

1838
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: then might and then yeah, and then well, you know what,

1839
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I'll take the over. God, I'll take the over. Here

1840
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: we go, here, we go ready, steroids obviously, uh, meth amphetamine, wow, obviously,

1841
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: pain killers and probably he's probably gonna be drinking. Let's

1842
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: just be honest about that. We talked about Oscar Willis here.

1843
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: What was the last time he was sober for anything?

1844
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1845
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Wow?

1846
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 3: Oh wow, this is harsh. By the way, I did

1847
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: ask him that on my channel. He wouldn't answer it, Luke,

1848
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 3: but hilarious just the same. I hope they both have

1849
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: a great time. I hope they don't get caught up

1850
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 3: really badly. But do you want to make a pick

1851
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: or no, you don't do that.

1852
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they both already have horrendous teeth, so I

1853
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be too much of a

1854
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: you know.

1855
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh, Bin's a pretty handsome guy, isn't he?

1856
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 4: Just dude, did any.

1857
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Of you grow up with brothers who insulted you or something? Like?

1858
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: I only grew up with that, you know what I mean?

1859
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: Like I do it, and people like your sell mean,

1860
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what dudes from my era do

1861
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: when they talk to each other. I like both of

1862
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: them very much. I obviously hope nothing happens to them,

1863
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: but I'm going to insult them along the way.

1864
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 3: Take that.

1865
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: Take that.

1866
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Let's go to number four. In the nineteen eighties, Luke,

1867
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 3: you know all about the Four Kings Leonard Durant Hagler hearns.

1868
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 3: The key here is those four Hall of famers fought

1869
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: each other nine times in ten years. What do we

1870
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 3: have today, hey, for lack of a better term, we

1871
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: have the five princes Ryan Garcia, Dravante Davis, Devon Hainey,

1872
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 3: Tayo Femo Lopez, and Shaker Stevenson, who thus far have

1873
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 3: fought each other a total of two times. Tank versus

1874
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia in twenty twenty three, Ryan Garcia versus Devin

1875
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Haney earlier this year. The over under here is one

1876
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: and a half the amount of times that the boxing

1877
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: five princes will have fights against one another in twenty

1878
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 3: twenty five.

1879
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: So you could do Ryan Tank two. You could do

1880
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Haney too. You could do Chakor versus Tank. I

1881
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 1: don't think Shakor and Haney would fight each other. There

1882
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: don't seem to be a lot of interest in that.

1883
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Plus are too far apart. I'll take the under. I'll

1884
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: take the under. I am we had high hopes. Wait,

1885
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: did you include Teo Femo Lopez in that one?

1886
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're five princes here, there's five of them, and

1887
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 3: he wants Crawford. He also is called not Tank, but

1888
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 3: you know he can't cut to one thirty five. Tank's

1889
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 3: not going to fight him at forty or forty seven.

1890
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Right, No, Yeah, I'll take the under. I mean you

1891
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: might get one, You definitely might get one.

1892
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 3: You're gonna get Hainey Garcia too, or at least you should, right.

1893
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: So did you see Garcia was like, I'm not going

1894
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: to enroll in Vada. Did you see this? I did not.

1895
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: I see.

1896
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 3: I saw that he said that he's not going to

1897
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 3: rehab because he has a therapist and things like that.

1898
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 1: Oh I can't I can't believe he's not going to rehab.

1899
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh that was such an ironclad promise.

1900
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 3: How did he By the way, right after he promised that,

1901
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 3: he went on like a world tour partying, So he

1902
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I'll do it in a few months.

1903
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that didn't happen.

1904
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 3: I do think we see that fight next year. I

1905
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 3: think both will act like they don't you know, or

1906
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 3: Hani will continue to act like he doesn't want it.

1907
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with that lawsuit. But both are

1908
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 3: going to look in the mirror and know how much

1909
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 3: money they can make and how important it is for

1910
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 3: both of them. Ryan doing it clean right with no

1911
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 3: shenanigans and getting out of his suspension, and then Hani.

1912
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 3: The number one thing Hani can do to revive all

1913
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: the tuck which is negative right now against him is

1914
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: go back in there and handle your business. So I mean, dude,

1915
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 3: that could be couldn't that be a legitimate like million

1916
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 3: and a half pay per view with even counting illegal streams?

1917
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Like it might be that big. I think it's somewhat

1918
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: gonna be mitigated by how many n words. Ryan Garcia

1919
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: drops a clean now and then. But you know, if

1920
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: he can dial back, you know, the the grand wizardry

1921
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: that is coursing through his veins, then maybe maybe he

1922
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: can get here.

1923
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Harry was going to change his name to David Duke,

1924
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: but they were like, that's not a good look. Not

1925
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 3: a good look. All right, we're joking. Number five here,

1926
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 3: Luke at age thirty one, Former Belator champion Yaroslav Amasov,

1927
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 3: who sports a twenty seven to one record despite being

1928
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 3: upset in his last fight by Jason Jackson, revealed he

1929
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 3: has fought out his belatur contract and intends to seek

1930
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: a free agent deal with the UFC. You're over under

1931
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,799
Speaker 3: in this case is plus two ten the betting odds

1932
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 3: that you would assign Amasov in a UFC alterweight title

1933
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 3: fight right now against Bala Muhammad.

1934
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: This is a good question. I you know, I put

1935
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: in the time, Luke, I care, okay? I definitely would

1936
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 1: make Muhammad the favorite about that, there's no question, yes,

1937
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: But you're a slab. I'm a slob, as BC likes

1938
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: to say, is very well rounded.

1939
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 3: How bad is that Jason Jackson lost?

1940
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Right? I mean the thing is Jason Jackson beat him

1941
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: on the feet, not on the ground. And yeah, you know,

1942
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Muhammad can strike better than we thought, but it's still

1943
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: I feel like the majority of his game runs through that.

1944
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, But you would say he's ufc ready right,

1945
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 3: Oh for.

1946
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: Sure, Oh for sure. Like can you say he's the

1947
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: best walter weight in the world. Probably not, but he

1948
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: can probably beat top five guys. I do think that's

1949
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: probably true, certainly top ten at a bare minimum. Man,

1950
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: that's a great I'll probably you know what, Logan Storley

1951
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: gave him a tough time, but I think blows better

1952
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: than that. So I'll say I'll take a slight over.

1953
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: I would maybe say a little bit more than plus

1954
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: two ten close to like plus two forty two to

1955
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: fifty something like that, And.

1956
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 3: It would depend who had beat to get to that point, right,

1957
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 3: But I was chositing a scenario where he came in

1958
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 3: day one, which wouldn't happen.

1959
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: But that's the I think plus two ten is actually

1960
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: in the ballpark. I might go a little bit higher. Interesting,

1961
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: All right, you'll take the over. Let's go to number six.

1962
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Jake Paul posted a TikTok video on Tuesday offering five

1963
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: million dollars to Mike Tyson should the soon to be

1964
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 3: rought fifty nine year old or fifty eight year old

1965
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 3: last at least four of their scheduled eight rounds in

1966
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 3: their November fifteenth Netflix heavyweight super fight. The over under

1967
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 3: here is two and a half the total number of

1968
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 3: combined knockdowns that we will see when Tyson and Jake

1969
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: Paul show up on Netflix.

1970
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: Man, that is a great question. I have not thought about. Wow,

1971
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: total number of combined knockdowns. Well, here's the thing. The

1972
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 1: one issue is that they're not gonna let Mike get

1973
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: pummeled through four knockdowns, right, you know what I mean? Actually,

1974
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself this PC. Are they gonna

1975
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: let Mike Tyson beat the count even if he does,

1976
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, even if he beats

1977
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: the count at fifty eight, are they gonna let him

1978
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: get knocked down? And they?

1979
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 3: I think the comparison here is when fifty eight year

1980
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 3: old Holyfield fought Vitor Belford on Triller, and they did.

1981
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 3: They gave him a short leash and he got knocked

1982
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 3: down a few times because his balance was so bad,

1983
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 3: meaning holy Field, once he got hit for the first time,

1984
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 3: he lost all balance. Dude, they pulled that quick. They

1985
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 3: didn't like wait till he got knocked out cold. Do

1986
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 3: you think I mean, this fight is a much, much,

1987
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 3: much bigger platform than that. But I tend to lean

1988
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 3: on your side that you're not gonna see Tyson get

1989
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 3: a chance to get knocked down three times unless it's

1990
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 3: super competitive. They happen like you know, one early one.

1991
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like if they happen in

1992
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 3: any close succession, they're gonna protect him.

1993
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is such a great question, Jesus, I have, Dude,

1994
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: I have not thought about. I've kind of thought about,

1995
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's probably gonna be sad, and Jake

1996
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: Paul is probably gonna win, because every time I thought

1997
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: Jake Paul was gonna get beaten by an MMA guy

1998
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 1: early on. Anyway, I don't think that obviously any longer,

1999
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Like I thought Silva had a chance obviously, not that

2000
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Diaz did, but I thought, we both thought that Silver

2001
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:29,879
Speaker 1: had a chance, and then he just got walloped.

2002
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 4: And this is he was.

2003
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be ten years more than that. Fucking hell.

2004
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 1: I'll take the under only because they're not gonna let

2005
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: Mike get if he gets knocked down twice, they're gonna

2006
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: call it now. Of course, he could knock down Jake

2007
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: get knocked out himself, and then Jake you get you know,

2008
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: one more knockdown, which would be three obviously, But I

2009
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: think I think that I listen, Jake Paul is the

2010
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: king of You got to appreciate his hustle. You have

2011
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: to appreciate the business he's built for himself, and I

2012
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: genuinely do it. You've seen it up close. It's impressive.

2013
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: But he's a sandbagger and this is what we think

2014
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: is probably sandbagging. And so for that reason, I'm gonna

2015
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: say two.

2016
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 3: All right, all right, got two more of these left.

2017
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 3: Here we go. Number seven. Saturday's UFC headliner. The afbour

2018
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,839
Speaker 3: mentioned Brandon Roival made headlines this week when he actually

2019
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 3: talked about revealed that he turned down an offer to

2020
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 3: fight Akai Asakura at UFC three h five in Perth

2021
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: because quote Royval said, I Am not a cheap prostitute anymore.

2022
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 1: End quote.

2023
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 3: So Luke, the you're over under here is seventy the

2024
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 3: percentage of active UFC fighters who you believe would literally

2025
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: accept any fight offered by the UFC when they call.

2026
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm not saying every single one of those are cheap

2027
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 3: ass prostitutes, but over under on seventy percent of the

2028
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: roster would say, oh, hey, Sean and Mitch, how are you.

2029
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm in No, I would take the under. And the

2030
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: reason why is because I have had had many conversations

2031
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: with Well, I've talked to the UFC matchmakers before, I've

2032
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: talked to but I've talked to all the matchmakers. I've

2033
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: talked to wec's Bellator's matchmakers. Guys turned down fights all

2034
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: the time, all the time. Now, you're right, well, don't

2035
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: they eventually say yes, Yes, if you just keep picking

2036
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 1: up the phone, you turn over enough rocks, you will

2037
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: one fine worms about that, There's no no question about it.

2038
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: But the amount of fights that people turn down, especially

2039
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: on short notice, the one you fucked up the question

2040
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: because what you should have said was for two x

2041
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: what they made at their last fight if you look

2042
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: at then I would say, yes, the answer is seventy.

2043
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: But like just based on what's in their contract, they're

2044
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna turn it down like all the time. Yeah, I'll

2045
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: take the under.

2046
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 3: So what do you think the percentage is? And it

2047
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're all stupid businessmen. People pride themselves on

2048
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 3: saying I disagree with it, but they pride themselves on

2049
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 3: saying I don't pick my fights. I fight whoever.

2050
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: The UFC says, do sure what you're asking? Oh what

2051
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: the actual percentage would be? I mean, yeah, probably sub

2052
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: forty percent somewhere around there.

2053
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 3: All right, all right, yeah I do. I do agree

2054
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: with you. Mick Mick and Mitch Mick, mcmaynard and Shawan.

2055
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a very tough job these days? Finally, Luke,

2056
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: we go to number eight here. Connor McGregor was interviewed

2057
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas by The SCHMO on Tuesday, where he

2058
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 3: said that not only does he still plan on fighting

2059
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler in twenty twenty five, he said he's talking

2060
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 3: with the UFC about multiple names regarding opponents to fight

2061
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 3: before that in his comeback, because Chandler has a fight

2062
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 3: first against Charles Alivera. The problem, of course, is that

2063
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,799
Speaker 3: every time we see McGregor in public and on camera,

2064
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 3: he looks like he just auditioned for the lead role

2065
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 3: of Motley Crue lead singer. If you know what I mean, So, Luke,

2066
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 3: you're over under here is three forty, three hundred and

2067
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 3: forty the amount of days Connor McGregor has been intoxicated

2068
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 3: or worse since one year ago.

2069
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: Today, Dude, I'm taking the over on that hard fucking gore.

2070
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Are you shitting me? You're gonna give me a twenty

2071
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 1: five day window of I mean, get the fuck out

2072
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: of here.

2073
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: This guy, I don't mean has one one style. I

2074
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 3: mean he's going. You know, he's he's part. He's getting

2075
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 3: after it, you know.

2076
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take the I'll take the over. I'll

2077
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: take the over. I mean this is the easiest call

2078
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: on earth. I'll take the over a million.

2079
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 3: Three fifty six. You're like the amount of days three.

2080
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: Fifty six, three sixty five, sixty sorry, three sixty five.

2081
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: You know it's the ct Luke, You're you're going what

2082
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 3: three sixty five? I mean, what are we doing here?

2083
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: I'll go three sixty four and a half. I mean

2084
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 1: there's probably been like a morning or two where he

2085
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: was sober till like noon, and then after that, like

2086
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: all bets are off, Like, dude, I mean here, I'm

2087
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: not even mad about it. Like the guys in the

2088
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: stage of his life were like, I mean, you know,

2089
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would want to do it

2090
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: if I had his kind of money. I don't know

2091
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 1: if I would want to party like this. But I'm

2092
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: just pointing out, like, you beat the game, dude, you

2093
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: beat it. Like what's the best you can do in

2094
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: the fight world? You can beat the game. He fucking

2095
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: did that. He did it. He one did it. You

2096
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: should again, I'm not saying you should be like this

2097
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 1: drunkenly and all the time, but like on a basic level,

2098
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,639
Speaker 1: you should be enjoying your life. That's what you should

2099
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 1: be doing. So he enjoys it by you know, this ship,

2100
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: which is whatever it says. That's it's his call. But like,

2101
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm not even bitter about that. I just don't, like,

2102
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: we just got to you know, you have to call

2103
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: what it is. This is the stage of the life

2104
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: he's in.

2105
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 3: Do you remember that first interview on that BKFC pay

2106
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 3: per view when Feldman brought in Connor and announced him

2107
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 3: as the as like a new partner, and people like

2108
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 3: zoomed in on Connor's face whenever fils He's like, yeah, yeah,

2109
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 3: he was the freaking weekend Luke for sure. Wow that

2110
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 3: is wild there that you're over under for the week, Luke.

2111
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 3: Did we want to close with something?

2112
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Hey, let's we don't again, we don't have imaging

2113
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: for this yet where all this stuff still being built.

2114
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: But I want to try something. It's a Friday, we

2115
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 1: have just a little bit of time left in the show,

2116
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: and how about we try something where I'm gonna call

2117
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: it to start maybe between rounds. Here's how this works,

2118
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: very simple, very simple. Tell me one thing going on

2119
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: in your life that has nothing to do with fight

2120
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,440
Speaker 1: sports can be anything, as long as it has absolutely

2121
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: nothing to do with fight sports. Between rounds, BC, you

2122
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:22,759
Speaker 1: go first.

2123
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 3: I tease you know this topic when I was asked

2124
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 3: about Caitlin Clark on my live chat this week, and

2125
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this. I cannot believe I'm

2126
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 3: saying this. Look, I've come completely around, not to a

2127
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 3: die hard level, not to a creepy, you know, old

2128
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 3: guy level. I've come around on super elite women's basketball,

2129
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 3: and I think last night's game one of the WNBA Finals,

2130
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,799
Speaker 3: that insane game at MSG between the Liberty and the Links,

2131
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 3: really proved exactly what I'm trying to say, whether we're

2132
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, the Caitlin Clark experience at elite

2133
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 3: college level the last couple of years, or the impact

2134
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 3: that that rookie class in general has had on the

2135
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: WNBA this year, mixed with all of those you know

2136
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 3: names that we kind of know. Dude, I used to

2137
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 3: watch WNBA in the beginning a lot because I was

2138
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 3: such a diehard NBA fan, and for a lot of

2139
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 3: this run, you know, the quality of play was just subpar.

2140
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 3: It was just not what so many of us are

2141
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 3: looking for. Maybe it plays into this idea that I'm

2142
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 3: just unhappy with today's NBA game. It is just so

2143
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 3: super charged and you know, dunk from a step inside

2144
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 3: the free the line or hit a three from thirty

2145
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 3: five feet up and down the floor. It's a different

2146
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 3: game from when I was, you know, infected and injected

2147
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 3: and living and loving it.

2148
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 1: Dude.

2149
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 3: The elite w NBA game today, I cannot believe it.

2150
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 3: It's pretty damn good. The defense is through the roof.

2151
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 3: It's physical as hell. The teamwork, the skill, the scoring,

2152
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 3: the deep shots, the rivalries, the fighting at times, like

2153
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 3: it's kind of everything what the nineties NBA used to be.

2154
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: And I keep telling myself shooting from way outside also

2155
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: like yes, the modern na not.

2156
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: As many, but yes, without question. I mean Kaitlin Clark's

2157
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 3: pulling up from inside half court. I'm just saying, like

2158
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 3: they have figured it out. And it's not just Caitlin

2159
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 3: Clark and Angel Reese and the other rookies that have

2160
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 3: you know, Cameron Brinke that have made a big name here.

2161
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: The game is really good in ways it never was.

2162
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 3: And obviously it's picked up in terms of interest and

2163
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 3: now you're seeing celebrities, you know, it's it's it's becoming

2164
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 3: like a business now finally. But like I'm gonna be

2165
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 3: that cynic in the corner that's like yeah, yeah, but

2166
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 3: who cares? Until I tuned in and was like, this

2167
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 3: is competitive, intense a sport I love. I love to watch,

2168
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 3: you know, almost as much as I love to get

2169
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 3: inside the box.

2170
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: And I am real.

2171
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 3: I mean, watch the highlights from last night's game one.

2172
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's ridiculous. This is it's it's it's

2173
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 3: pretty all if you love basketball. And I know most

2174
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 3: people are already up on that, but you know, there's

2175
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 3: a lot of those curmudgeons, you know, I mean we

2176
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, how many WNBA jokes did you make in

2177
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 3: the late nineties, Luke. You know, we used to get

2178
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 3: real drunk and be like, let's show up with signs

2179
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,799
Speaker 3: protesting at the games. You know, go back to the kitchen, Yeah, Massage.

2180
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 4: Someone once asked me a serious question.

2181
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: They go, what would you rather do get court side

2182
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: seats to a WNBA final game or find five dollars

2183
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: in your pocket? And You're like, you take the fiver.

2184
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: You just take the fiver. But not anymore now, not

2185
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:33,759
Speaker 1: anymore different.

2186
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't like schedule my life around it,

2187
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 3: but I'm watching the highlights and or you know, they'll

2188
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,759
Speaker 3: they'll make like half hour condensed highlights of these games

2189
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 3: in these great moments, and I'm I'm kind of enthralled here.

2190
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I know you can make a strawweight

2191
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 3: comparison there, but I you know, it's it's about it's

2192
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: not even about.

2193
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: That, Luke, Dude. I so like you know, you know,

2194
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 1: one of the big stories was Caitlin Clark had you know,

2195
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 1: obviously has injected so much life into the league that

2196
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: some of these teams are chartering their own flights. Now.

2197
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: I took a couple of flights years ago. Uh, like

2198
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,759
Speaker 1: I think I took one in like Arizona. I forget

2199
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: where I was going, and maybe Arizona to Texas something

2200
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: like that. And the w NBA team got on board.

2201
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I was amazed, like many of them

2202
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: were taller than me and I'm six foot four, Like

2203
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: they were tall. And then the other one was like

2204
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: they were pretty attractive, like I'm not, I'm not. I'm

2205
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: not gonna lie like they were. They were for days.

2206
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 1: They had body for days. They had body for which

2207
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: is not the reason why you want to watch, In fact,

2208
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. I actually been watching w NBA two

2209
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: because my because because Tukes. She loves Balancesto, if you

2210
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She loves that game, so she'll

2211
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: watch it as well. We didn't watch the finals whatever,

2212
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: but like through the course of the season, we were

2213
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 1: definitely watching the mystics. She wants to go to She's

2214
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: been asking to go to a Mystics game this whole time.

2215
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Oh did you freeze remixing?

2216
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 3: It sounded like you.

2217
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Were you got that McDonald's.

2218
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 3: I think you have it. No, I think it's you.

2219
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's me. I don't think

2220
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: Long Island.

2221
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 4: Look it's BC. He's still kind of jittery. He's coming

2222
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 4: coming back now.

2223
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah you got you got that piece of shit country Bumpkin,

2224
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, Connecticut, fucking Wi Fi. All right, I'll

2225
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 1: do mine for my U between rounds here. One thing

2226
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 1: going on in my life that has nothing to do

2227
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 1: with fight sports. BC. I don't get to the movies

2228
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: very often, and I know everyone has already seen this.

2229
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really telling you anything you don't probably already know.

2230
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Did you see the Wolverine Deadpool movie or the Deadpool

2231
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Wolverine movie.

2232
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 3: It's not the kind of thing I'll go after unless

2233
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 3: my kids are really into it, and they haven't mentioned it,

2234
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 3: so no, I haven't seen it.

2235
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: They did not, do you Your kids didn't want to

2236
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: see it, dude?

2237
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 3: They live on their phone on YouTube, and if it

2238
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 3: doesn't come through that way, you know, then they're not

2239
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 3: gonna what. They sit in their room with a massive

2240
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: TV and never turn it on and just live through YouTube,

2241
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 3: which I guess I do too. Luke in hotel rooms

2242
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 3: killing time. So you know, Spider Man me.

2243
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Well, And you can watch it on your phone now too.

2244
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 1: I can watch it on and go at home, so

2245
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: you can buy. That's actually how I went. I did

2246
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: not go to the movie theater. I wait until I

2247
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: came home on streaming. And so if you've been like

2248
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: me and you have a kid, you'd never get a

2249
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:12,600
Speaker 1: chance to go do anything fun anymore. I'm teasy you

2250
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: can wait till the movie comes home. Let me just

2251
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: say this. Let me just say this. I am very

2252
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:22,799
Speaker 1: much kind of sick of the both the Superhero movie

2253
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: and the anti Superhero movie, and I'm sick of the

2254
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: multiverse stuff. And I thought I was sick of like

2255
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: the Deadpool shtick, which is like, you know, taking nothing

2256
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 1: seriously and it's you know, homo erotic kind of humor.

2257
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 1: So I went in with like being all right, I'm

2258
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: going to watch it, but like, how good could it

2259
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: possibly be? Dude? It's great. It is actually really kind

2260
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: of fun. And some of it's fell flat for me,

2261
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: but most of it didn't. And I'll say this, there

2262
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: are at least at least four different cameos. More than that,

2263
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 1: but there's at least four different cameos in the movie.

2264
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Because I had not seen any spoilers or anything like that,

2265
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: I just went into it as is. There are four

2266
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: different cameos in this movie that are fucking awesome, one

2267
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: in particular that is epic epic, and uh, it actually worked.

2268
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: I actually thought it was. I was very surprised at

2269
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 1: how much I ended up liking it. They were able to, like, like,

2270
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: what's the Aussie Donk who plays Wolverine, what's his name?

2271
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 1: No Sata, No, Hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackman. He was able

2272
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 1: to be both himself and then you know, like match

2273
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: the Deadpool energy because he was obviously in a Deadpool universe,

2274
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: so to speak. Uh, that worked out really well, and

2275
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: the storytelling kind of worked. The pacing worked, dude, Like

2276
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: it was fun. I legitimately thought it was a really

2277
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 1: really fun movie. I recommend it with.

2278
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 3: Those type of movies unless it's Love and Thunder and

2279
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 3: I can get you upset all.

2280
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: Love and Thunder is one of the worst movies ever made.

2281
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 3: It in the theater, but I hate that genre, dude,

2282
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 3: that's all the movies are these days, right. I just

2283
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 3: sound like an old man yelling at the clouds. Hey,

2284
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 3: speaking of the clouds, did you I don't, I don't.

2285
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: It definitely didn't extend to DC. My wife is so

2286
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 3: huge into weather and weird stuff like that and Aurora

2287
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 3: Borealis that I did.

2288
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: See them yesterday. Yes, yes, oh my.

2289
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 3: I went to the front yard and couldn't believe what

2290
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 3: I was looking at.

2291
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: I had a moment yesterday and you're gonna like, this

2292
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: is like when you know you're just a completely old, dumb, fuck, loser,

2293
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: bitch ass motherfucker like I am. Yeah. I had to

2294
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 1: go meet someone yesterday at the Washington Monument. Some there's

2295
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 1: a project that I've been a part of that is

2296
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 1: going to debut next week that everyone's gonna see. So

2297
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: I this was the last piece that had to be

2298
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: work it out to make that happen. And so this

2299
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 1: was at the Golden Hour, So it got I finished

2300
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: with what I was doing at like six thirty six

2301
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: forty five. Huh, you said golden Do you know what

2302
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: the Golden hour is? Do you know what the Golden

2303
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: hour is? I get it.

2304
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was like like the last hour

2305
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 3: of hanging out with R.

2306
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: Kelly. That's the golden hour shower. The golden hour for

2307
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 1: folks that don't know, is the last hour before sundown

2308
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 1: and then you get a certain like yellow wee kind

2309
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: of glow with the sun and the light. Anyway, So

2310
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: I was biking home and from the Washington Monument, which

2311
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 1: for folks who are looking on a map, it's fifteenth

2312
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 1: in Constitution, and I had to go essentially eastward and

2313
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: behind the Capital was the Aurora Borealis and the bike

2314
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: lane is actually right in the middle of Pennsylvania. And

2315
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: I got to go for like a mile just looking

2316
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: at the Capitol on my bike with beautiful weather, with

2317
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: the pink hue in the background. It was, as my

2318
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: in laws would say, espectacular. It was unbelievable. I had

2319
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: such a moment, was like, this is beautiful now. I

2320
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: also was high. I also was high, but still.

2321
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 3: It was all like pinkish red in my area. I

2322
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 3: saw J. Piquette pictures from Nova Scotia. Shout out to

2323
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 3: mount you Unike crew up there. It was you know,

2324
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 3: green and other colors mixed in. I mean, that's art, Luke,

2325
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 3: that's true art.

2326
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: That is art. That's that's the universe's art. It was beautiful.

2327
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 3: I also wanted to mention and I know you saw

2328
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 3: the clips for it on Twitter. I don't know if

2329
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 3: you saw yet. Did you watch Top Ranks The Fight

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Speaker 3: Life on ESPN Plus?

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Speaker 1: I have not. I have not. Dude, you are going

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01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 1: to love this.

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01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 3: I had. I saw all the commercials and we're like, yeah,

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01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 3: we don't really need this. It'll probably be decent, but whatever, dude,

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01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 3: this series is freaking awesome, Luke awesome, like you mentioned,

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01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 3: in a way we know so little about in a

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01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 3: way largely because of the language difference and the fact

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01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 3: that he mostly fights in Tokyo.

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01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: Dude.

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01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 3: Fuck getting the cameras to follow him around for you know,

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01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 3: forty eight hours before the fight, having him sit down

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01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 3: with his coach and just chat and stuff like that

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 3: kind of stuff is super interesting. But how that series

2344
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 3: covers the business at large, like the chances Top Rank

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01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 3: took by bringing cameras into their pitch meetings, and like

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01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 3: it's all honest and real and raw, kind of like

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01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 3: the UFC Roku in that regard to this is really

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01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 3: it's like showing boxing war and all here it is.

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01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: And this on ESPN Plus.

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01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,839
Speaker 3: Yes, it's on ESPN Plus. They do build each episode

2351
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: around one fight and they take you up and through it,

2352
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 3: but they do a lot of the inside of the

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01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 3: boxing business just the same, And I loved man. I

2354
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen some good boxing content that good in a while,

2355
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 3: like they nailed. They nailed the tone of it perfectly.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll have to check that out. I know

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 1: you've been effusive with praise about it, but I gotta say, yeah,

2358
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: very effusive in general.

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 3: Wow, Luke, what an episode? What are two hours of

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01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 3: Just bang bros? Right, we're back back and we got paid. Yay,

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01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 3: well not yet, but we'll see, you know what I mean.

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01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.

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01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 3: Could not be more excited to be back in the

2364
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 3: lives of you folks from eleven am to one pm

2365
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 3: every single week long island. Look, thank you, thank you

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01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 3: for playing your role in this. I mean, this guy's

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01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 3: decently valuable to this show.

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01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 1: You'd say with Thomas, right, Yeah, I mean he's never sober,

2369
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: but he's always there and for that reason I value him. Eric.

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Speaker 4: I guys appreciate it.

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01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 3: Check out the main card screen. Yeah, get out here.

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01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 3: You don't need that look any any weekend plans any

2373
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 3: messages to close?

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01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: What do I have to go to a kid's party tomorrow?

2375
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: But then after that I am gonna be doing the

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Speaker 1: Better Beef bivoll watch it along. Please join me for that.

2377
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: And then of course Monday's MK will react to everything.

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01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 1: Plus we're gonna set the table for Big Francis's return

2379
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: this month. Dude is fucking bananas two UFC pay per views,

2380
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 1: the return of Big Francis Better Beef bival I mean,

2381
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: what else do you want? And Halloween to cap it all,

2382
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: A let's fucking go.

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01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 3: One thing that can make that better? Monday, twelve pm Eastern,

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 3: Randy Cooter.

2385
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: On MK to set the stage.

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01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 4: What do you think?

2387
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, what do you think this this time?

2388
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 3: This time?

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01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm good?

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01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 4: I pass.

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01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: I love Randy, He's great, but yeah, I'm good.

2393
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 3: On that he likes grass on the field. We've already

2394
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 3: established that. Okay, yo for our fantastic team here, guys,

2395
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you so much. Thank you to you

2396
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 3: folks for sticking by us through some tough times in

2397
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 3: the family. But we back. Morningcombat at gmail dot com

2398
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 3: is where you can start sending in those fan subs

2399
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 3: Dead wrongs, pitch us some ideas, tell us what you think.

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01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Let's build this thing back up the from the ground.

2401
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 3: That's Luke Thomas. I'm your boy.

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 4: BC.

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 3: Follow us, support us, continue this. Thank you. We're back.

2404
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere. Enjoy the fights this weekend six

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01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 3: pm Easter tom ESPN plus Better BFB Vault's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait for it. We are out.