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Speaker 2: We're ready to rock and roll. I miss you dearly

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm so happy here today. And look, I

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Speaker 4: I always get confused. So the show starts today Andy

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Speaker 4: see what's the high today? One hundred and two degree Norman, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: So it leads to one of.

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Speaker 2: And I want to see a couple of athletes, maybe

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Speaker 2: Understand how how does that happen? You know, you're close

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Speaker 3: Well, and there's several different layers to nil.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's that's the true name, image likeness sight

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Speaker 2: So that's softball player all you softball is the best

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Speaker 3: Well, guess what their kid wants. They want the glove

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Speaker 4: not They're not settling for anything less than X. And

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Speaker 4: I think you hit it on the head if that's

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Speaker 4: truly what Saquon Barkley wants, If that's the number he's

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Speaker 4: going for, are you really hurting yourself if you end

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Speaker 4: up having a franchise tag him the next two years?

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Speaker 4: Because I don't know, Giants fans, you can help us

437
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Speaker 4: out at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. I

438
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Speaker 4: don't see anyone else in that roster right now that

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Speaker 4: you're scratching and clawed and fighting for that you're going

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Speaker 4: to be battling with on a contractual.

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Speaker 3: Situation over the next few years. So get it done. Man.

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Speaker 4: He's the how much Donor Fandy. He was such a

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Speaker 4: battle when he was in one hundred percent right, one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent right man. So and I see it in

445
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Speaker 4: Vegas too, you know, I kind of think the Raiders

446
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Speaker 4: are taking I kind of think that they have their

447
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Speaker 4: sights on Caleb Williams, and I don't blame them, but

448
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Speaker 4: in this, in this instant new instance, New York has

449
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Speaker 4: ways to go to catch Philadelphia. But you've got to

450
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Speaker 4: get this right with Saquon Barkley because he's shown what

451
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Speaker 4: he's healthy in.

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Speaker 3: What Brian dave Ball is doing.

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Speaker 4: He's a massive difference maker and it's led to a

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Speaker 4: much larger conversation about the position in general. So I say,

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Speaker 4: Pam getting it, get him in camp, let's see what

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Speaker 4: they can get done.

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Speaker 2: There are so many advantages to paying him. But he

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Speaker 2: does have some leverage because the Giants were eight and

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Speaker 2: two when Barkley rushed for seventy yards or more last year,

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Speaker 2: seven and two when he had one hundred plus scrimmage yards,

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Speaker 2: and the Giants were zero to three when Barkley rushed

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Speaker 2: for less than fifty yards last year, so proving the

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Speaker 2: offense basically went through Saquon Barkley has no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: But this is a mess that could have been avoided.

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Speaker 2: And it's just it doesn't look good. It doesn't look

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Speaker 2: good for this ball club. No, I get it. I

467
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Speaker 2: mean these quarterbacks, guys like Daniel Jones sounded like a

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Speaker 2: multi year contract, like over eighty million dollars. I mean

469
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Speaker 2: that's a joke. But I understand it's not the player

470
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Speaker 2: as much as the position agreed. I mean, he's nothing,

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Speaker 2: and I think Daniel Jones will be hurting without Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: No, no, in your andy, I agree with you. I

474
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Speaker 4: don't think it's the player. I think you look at

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley, you look at Josh Jacobs, you look at

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Speaker 4: Tony Pollard, and it's all right. These are guys that

477
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Speaker 4: I think we can win and I know we can

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Speaker 4: win with. I mean, you brought up the numbers, the

479
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Speaker 4: proofs in the numbers. Last year, Barkley thirteen hundred yards rushing,

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Speaker 4: Oney three hundred and twelve. The second leading rusher for

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Speaker 4: the Giants was actually Daniel Jones. So now you're talking

482
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Speaker 4: about a rookie and Eric Gray you brought up with

483
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Speaker 4: James Robinson they just brought in. And Matt Brida and

484
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Speaker 4: Gary Brightwell combined for three hundred and sixty one yards

485
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Speaker 4: last year on what is that eighty five carries that

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Speaker 4: they had, So you can't replace that production. But we've

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Speaker 4: we've so devalued that run. And I know, listen, don't

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Speaker 4: you guys don't have to tag us any well, here's

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Speaker 4: the points that they're responsible for, and here's the minimal

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Speaker 4: amount of touchdowns that they score that's fine, but that

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Speaker 4: doesn't tell the whole story, and that.

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Speaker 2: You can't go without a running game period. In the

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Speaker 2: story you're up, you actually a touchdown with four minutes

494
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Speaker 2: to go, you want to run the ball on the

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Speaker 2: ground to run the clock down. I mean, there's certain

496
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Speaker 2: things that you need to do in football and on

497
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Speaker 2: and running is a big part of it. You have

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Speaker 2: to have a run game.

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Speaker 3: A guy that can protect the football right, a guy

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Speaker 3: that's not going.

501
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Speaker 4: To fumble it, a guy that's not gonna put it

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Speaker 4: on the turf, a guy that's gonna help protect your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And more than just in that, you know, run the

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Speaker 4: necessities of a running back in the passing game when

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Speaker 4: it comes to blocking a comfort level. Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 4: comfortable when he hasd Saquon Barkley next to him. What

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Speaker 4: was your stat eight and two when he runs for

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Speaker 4: over seventy yards?

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Speaker 3: Me, that's massive.

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Speaker 2: Okay with every question, I we'll get into it heavily

511
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Speaker 2: in an hour number two. But right now, why do

512
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Speaker 2: you think this position is being devalued that I don't get.

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Speaker 2: I guess my mind is if there's a question in life,

514
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Speaker 2: it's usually about the guilt. Green cabbage about money, right,

515
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Speaker 2: They want to save the money and put it in

516
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Speaker 2: what they call key positions, a quarterback maybe, now receivers.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. So someone had to be cuts.

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Speaker 2: It was the running back. You know what.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those great questions that I think has

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Speaker 4: to do a lot with how production tends to dip

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Speaker 4: as they get older. So, in other words, is it

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Speaker 4: worth that second contract after you draft them? And if

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Speaker 4: you draft a running back. The people that don't draft

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Speaker 4: era like you can't draft a running back in the

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Speaker 4: first round.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why not?

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Speaker 4: You get five years pretty much guaranteed of that dude,

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Speaker 4: and you don't have to worry about And if we're

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Speaker 4: going to value running backs like we are, Andy, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that second contract. But I

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Speaker 4: just I feel like it has to do with production

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Speaker 4: dipping and the NFL becoming more of a passing league.

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Speaker 4: Left tackles, wide receivers, those have become the big money

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Speaker 4: positions on offense outside of quarterback now tight ends tight ends,

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Speaker 4: I mean, running backs the lowest paid position period, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's wild to see how when

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Speaker 4: you and I and you and I are fairly close

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Speaker 4: to the same age Andy. But I mean I can

539
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Speaker 4: think about the contracts that you know, you wanted to

540
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Speaker 4: have Tony dor Sat and you wanted to have Marca Sallen.

541
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Speaker 4: You wanted to have the dudes on your team. Now

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Speaker 4: people be like that, you know, we have door set,

543
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Speaker 4: but I'm pretty sure that we can get that same produce.

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Speaker 2: Stars then Barry Sanders, I mean, come on, really excitely.

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Speaker 2: I think personnel people think, now I could get a

546
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Speaker 2: kid out of college for less money, But if I

547
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Speaker 2: got good lineman to open up the holes, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: That's what we could do.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Hey, I can get what you do for me

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Speaker 4: from a guy I just drafted in the fifth or

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Speaker 4: sixth round, and I don't have to pay him nearly

552
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Speaker 4: what I have to pay you. I can spend that

553
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Speaker 4: money on my second and third receiver or a second

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Speaker 4: tight end.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, here's Chris Plank, I mean, Deferman. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports right now. One

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Speaker 2: NFL general manager is out of work, so why is

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Speaker 2: he talking. That's coming up next on Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: Live from the tierraq dot Com studios. But first, Nick

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Speaker 2: Cope has all your sports all right, guys. We had

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Speaker 2: some running back news as well in the NFL. Former

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Speaker 2: Vikings running back now free agent Dalvin Cook. He said

563
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Speaker 2: he's going to be patient take his time when it

564
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Speaker 2: comes to signing with a new team for the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: You also have contract issues in Kansas City Chiefs defensive

566
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Speaker 2: tackle Jones did not report for the start off Kaney

567
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Speaker 2: training camp. He's entering the final year of his contract

568
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Speaker 2: and wants a new one. The ESPN reports that the

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Speaker 2: two sides are far apart in negotiations. Women's World Cup

570
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Speaker 2: got one match going on. France and Jamaica scoreless in

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Speaker 2: the thirty third minute finals. From the overnight hours, Netherlands

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Speaker 2: be Portugal once and nothing. The Dutch are up next

573
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Speaker 2: for the US. That's Wednesday night, nine Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 2: And also had third ranked Sweden comeback from down a

575
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Speaker 2: goal in the second half to avoid being upset by

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Speaker 2: South Africa two to one the final. There, the Swedes

577
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Speaker 2: got the game winner in the ninetieth minute. And golf

578
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Speaker 2: got the final round of the Open Championship going on.

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Speaker 2: Leaders still not expected to tee off. It's gonna be

580
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Speaker 2: about two and a half to three hours. You'll start

581
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Speaker 2: seeing the leaders get going here Brian Harmon the Americans

582
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Speaker 2: deil at the top of the leader board. He is

583
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Speaker 2: at twelve under for the tournament, Cameron Young and second

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Speaker 2: place at seven under. Then he got John Rahm, who

585
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Speaker 2: is six shots back. Final pairing tees off at nine

586
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Speaker 2: fifteen Eastern. Some scores in baseball, Dodgers crushed the Rangers

587
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Speaker 2: sixteen to three. Brewers rallied for a four to three

588
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Speaker 2: win against the Braves. Brewers are a game and a

589
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Speaker 2: half up on the Reds. Speaking of Sinci, they went

590
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Speaker 2: back to back to back with solo homers in a

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Speaker 2: four to two win over the Diamondbacks. Red Sox and

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Speaker 2: Mets split a doubleheader. Twins just got by the White

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Speaker 2: Sox three to two. Orioles blew a five run lead,

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Speaker 2: but then they ultimately beat the Blue Jays six to five.

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Speaker 2: A snapped a nine game losing streak to the Astros

596
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Speaker 2: with a four to one win. Pirates shut out the

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Speaker 2: Angels three to nine.

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Speaker 3: Thing.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's send it back to Andy Furman and Chris Blank.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nitzy. In about a now and now there's

601
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Speaker 2: a must year for one quarterback. We'll get to that

602
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Speaker 2: in just about a minute Chrisplank in for Jeff Schwartz today,

603
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Speaker 2: and of course we're gonna have walked the plank in

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Speaker 2: about eight nine minutes from now, so don't miss that. Okay.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just reminded myself you were on my

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Speaker 2: mailing list. That's a that's a plus I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm very grateful by the way.

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Speaker 4: I've reached out a couple of times, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know if I've ever followed through with actually sending out

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Speaker 4: my thank you to you, because I am I am

611
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Speaker 4: very I think we're.

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Speaker 3: Both pretty old school guys, right. I like to have

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Speaker 3: a paper in my hand, I like to read it.

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Speaker 3: So yes, I'm very grateful that you send those notes

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Speaker 3: to me. It means a lot to me, my wife.

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Speaker 4: My wife, it's always funny because she's like, what who

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Speaker 4: is this guy?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: No, not guy, She's like, who is sending this? Who

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Speaker 4: is this? What is it coming from? So it's always

621
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Speaker 4: like with an accusatory tone. But I'm grateful, So thank you.

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Speaker 4: It means a lot to me.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, no pleasure, all right, And I do like that.

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Speaker 2: I think mail means a lot. Maybe I'm a lot,

625
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: but because I think people are so accustomed to the

626
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Speaker 2: tweeting and texting and emailing and uh, you know, and

627
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Speaker 2: some of that stuff goes into the garbage bin. And

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Speaker 2: I think that people take the time to write they say, wow,

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed. So I think that's a big deal. I

630
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Speaker 2: mean to talk about this. Let's talk about the NFL

631
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Speaker 2: for a second. This new general manager in Arizona for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals, Monte Osen for it. Okay, he's got to

633
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Speaker 2: be on the same page as Kyler Murray because Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray right now, I don't know where he's at, what

635
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Speaker 2: he's gonna do, because they're former general manager Steve Kim.

636
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Speaker 2: He's still chirping about. I don't get it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're not involved, stay away, get out of the way,

638
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: and keep your mouth shut. Because Murray says some people

639
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 2: need to look in the mirror when things aren't working out.

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00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: I guess he's taking a shot at Kim. And this

641
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: guy signed Murray for forty six million year, but he

642
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: had that homework clause in the contract, which really that

643
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Speaker 2: was a killer. That was the killer of right.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: And again I'm very partial towards my Oklahoma guy.

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Speaker 3: So if you just accept that.

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Speaker 4: I've got a little bit of bias towards the Baker

648
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: Mayfield to Kyler Murray's this gosh, Jalen Hurts of the world,

649
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: even though he was just there for a year. I

650
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: could understand where you might say, Kyler, let's just make

651
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: sure this is here so we get your we know

652
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: that you're held accountable for the work that needs to

653
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Speaker 4: be done. On the other side of it, Steve Kim,

654
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: who's done a great job here on Fox Sports Radio,

655
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: he was on our draft coverage, knocked it out.

656
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: Of the park.

657
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that necessarily Kyler Murray's shot.

658
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: With at him.

659
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: I think it was at the organization as a whole.

660
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: And I don't think he's wrong. He's one hundred percent right.

661
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: He's like, listen, I gotta take a responsibility. But we

662
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 4: also have to remember it's a team white thing. What's

663
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: wrong with that? I mean, Jason mcdog's like losing his mind.

664
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, calm down, dude. I know it's a slow

665
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: time in sports, but it is okay for a quarterback

666
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: to show leadership by saying, Hey, it's got to be

667
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: more than me. I'm gonna grind, I'm gonna do my thing,

668
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: but we all do, so I didn't understand the outrage

669
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: over it.

670
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

671
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: I really truly think it was a product of some

672
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: downtime and maybe having Steve Kaim on your show, because

673
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: you know, again, he did a solid job, right look

674
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: at the teams at Bruce Arians and he built in

675
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: the cars to Palmer years they made runs. But my man,

676
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: they're in this situation because of more than just Kyler Murray.

677
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: They're in this situation not because of the contract you

678
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: gave Kyler Murray, because the poor decisions that were made

679
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: on that roster, in the moves that were made.

680
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: So I like Ozen for it. I like what they've

681
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: done right.

682
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: Everyone kind of jokes about how they're gonna have the

683
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: first and second pick in the draft, and I actually

684
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: think the Texans are going to be better this year.

685
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: But I don't understand whenever the mess is your fault,

686
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: how you feel like you can circle back then and say, yeah, well,

687
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: he should have done this and he should have done that.

688
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: None of my man, You've.

689
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: Got to hold that responsibility too. And I didn't have

690
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: any problem with what Kyler Murray said. I thought it

691
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: was hilarious. How the outrage.

692
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Speaker 3: I mean, oh yeah, change change the name Kyler Murray

693
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: to gosh, any quarterback right now, No one's gonna have

694
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: a problem with it. But he is just such a

695
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: target because.

696
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: They have they didn't meet expectations last year and he

697
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: got hurt and he got paid a lot of money.

698
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Speaker 4: But I didn't have a problem with what Kyler said.

699
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm sure Steve Kainin wants to stand up and defend

700
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: the job that he did, and that's fine. But to me,

701
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: you know, let's see what happens. Does he end up

702
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: getting another gig in the front office or is he

703
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: just going to be making the media rounds and reacting

704
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Speaker 4: to everything that Kyler.

705
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Speaker 3: Murray are the Arizona Cardinals.

706
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: Now, you've got to do me a favor. But the

707
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: advantage of Kyler Murray right now is an aloof kind

708
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: of guy, stays by himself, doesn't do a lot of practicing,

709
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: plays with video games, you know, the guy up close

710
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: in personal Sure, fill us in tell me what kind

711
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: of guy Kyler Murray really is.

712
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: And it's funny because he's got to prove it right.

713
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: He's got to play better, he's got to stay healthy.

714
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: He's got to be out there. Kyler is the kind

715
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: of guy that, if he could, would be playing two

716
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: sports right now. He's the kind of guy that, if

717
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 4: they would find a way, he would be playing football

718
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: and baseball. There is no doubt in my mind. Now

719
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: that's not to say he's ever going to quit football

720
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: for baseball. So, my man, Mike Florio, you don't have

721
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: to write that article. I know it's a constant anytime

722
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: something like this comes up. Kyler loves sports, right, I

723
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: think there is some maturation that comes. I think it

724
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: comes over time. He hadn't lost. Now, this is a

725
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: guy that up until gosh, I want to say, you know,

726
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: his time at Texas A and M, he never lost games.

727
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: You know, he just basically Alan high school, went unfettered

728
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: through high school ranks. He was the number one, number

729
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: one dude throughout a majority of his life. So I

730
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: think when you lose at the college level and whenever

731
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: you get dinged to the professional level, I think it's

732
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: tough for him to bounce back. And I think he

733
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: hears the noise. I think he hears the noise a lot.

734
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: I think that gets in his head. But if the

735
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Cardinals continue to build around him.

736
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be rewarded.

737
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Speaker 4: I really truly believe that this year is going to

738
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: be a bit of a watch because Andy, at least

739
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: from everything that I've seen, I don't he's not starting

740
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: the season right. They're not going to get him back

741
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: until maybe the midpoint of the season with the ACL injury.

742
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: But I mean, at the very least you know you're

743
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: on the hook for I'm looking at the dead cap

744
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: number eighty one mil next year, thirty three mil next year,

745
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: twenty mil. I mean, if you're like, well, the Cardinals

746
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: got to get away from him, you're really not in

747
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: a manageable position until twenty twenty seven unless you trade him.

748
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: So I think he's got the potential to be special.

749
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: I think there's still some growing to do, even at

750
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: twenty five twenty six years old, and I think he's learning.

751
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: I think he struggles with adversity because he just hasn't

752
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: faced it much in his life.

753
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Speaker 2: That's a great point, you know what, you bring him

754
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: an excellent point about guys who have had a lot

755
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: of success. He's in Heisman Trophy winners who kind of

756
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 2: come to the pros and have a rough time of it.

757
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: You know, since Week fourteen of the twenty twenty one season,

758
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: they've been five and eighteen, gosh, and they ended last

759
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: year with seven straight losses. So it's got to be

760
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: eating in him a big time, really. And you know,

761
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: when you win and you win constantly and all of

762
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: a sudden you don't know what the taste of losing

763
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: is all about. It's rough, it really is.

764
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

765
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I get that though. Really, it's kind of

766
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: a crazy situation, you know. And I think that you're

767
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: onto something over here. I think they are building around them,

768
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: they have confidence in him. He's still with them. I

769
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: think he wants to stay there. I haven't heard him,

770
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, yelling and screaming, trade me, get me out

771
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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 6: for Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman, and we are live

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Speaker 2: Are you ready missed the plank?

781
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: Are you roll? Still a little music?

782
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Speaker 2: Little music right now? Okay, Ready, here we go. Questions

783
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: for the pen book, the Plank Book. How do you

784
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: explain the success of that softball program at Oklahoma University?

785
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: I'm blown away by it? How do you explain it?

786
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: Championship? Mindset? Baby? Patty Gasso, she's the best.

787
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: I My buddy Gay Bikert, whom I work with quite

788
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 4: a bit, former Bill Titan, and of course Oklahoma captain

789
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: once told me that team is good because they have

790
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: the best players. I was like, oh, and it's always

791
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: been that simple. They got the best players. And I'll

792
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: tell you what they've got that secret sauce, Andy, you

793
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: would love to sit down and chop it out with

794
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Speaker 4: Patty Gasso. She's a gym so that would be for her.

795
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: Son's the assistant coach, isn't he.

796
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: She got two sons. She's got j T that's the

797
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: hitting coach and an assistant coach. And O you and

798
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: my man DJ Gass, so diehard Raider fan who actually

799
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: believes in Jimmy Garoppolo, who's an assistant now at Arkansas.

800
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: So that's the secret sauce man. They got Patty Gasso

801
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 4: and she's awesome.

802
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's continue. Le's still talk up it as

803
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: Sooner A's a little more than moving to the SEC.

804
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: What is the public response? What's the fan response? Now?

805
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: Going to the SEC?

806
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 4: kN me and you see that schedule in twenty twenty four,

807
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: Alabama's coming to town. Baby, you get Alabama, and it's

808
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: and again, I want to make this very clear when

809
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: I say it, I love Iowa State. I love Kansas State.

810
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: I love Kansas I love the Big twelve. A little

811
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 4: bit more juice though, whenever the Crimson Tide and the

812
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 4: Tennessee Volunteers are coming to town. It is exciting from

813
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: a fan perspective, from a ticket buying perspective, from an

814
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: environment perspective, it's scary as hell with it on the

815
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: field product right, because you're stepping up.

816
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a different level of competition week in

817
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: and week out.

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Speaker 4: But I think, and I see my man Harry James

819
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 4: Taylor's already checking in on Twitter dot com. I think

820
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: for Sooner Nation, I can I can confidently say it's

821
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: one of the more exciting things that's happened in the

822
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: history of this Athletic Department of program.

823
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay with that for a second. How critical

824
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: is this year for football at OU massive?

825
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: Massive?

826
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 4: I think Brent Vinnables has had another year of roster turnover.

827
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: But in the guys that stayed around, they're foundational guys.

828
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: Guys that might not be on the top of draft boards,

829
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 4: but from a college perspective, Names like Danny Stutsman, names

830
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: like Woody Washington, guys that have been a Billy Bowman.

831
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: These aren't names that we're talking about a lot Andy,

832
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 4: but their defensive centerpieces of Isaiah co for this program

833
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: going forward. So you know, Oklahoma and Alabama and Georgia

834
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: I don't think are gonna be programs.

835
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: Well okay, let me Marry said.

836
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: Alabama and Georgia aren't programs that you see taking twenty

837
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: guys out of the portal.

838
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: What do you see four or five guys every single year?

839
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: It's kind of like you know what, I just I

840
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: have a little shot of creamer in my coffee, and

841
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: that's what the portal needs to be. And I think

842
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: I think that's what Brin Vinnables is trying to do

843
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: a lot of turnover to set a foundation that will

844
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: be the foundation for five star.

845
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Talent for years going forward. When you move to the.

846
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: SEC, literally because the seat's a little warm.

847
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: If they go six and seven again this year, then yes,

848
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna get a little bit Dicey and.

849
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Norman six and seven. They go six and seven this year,

850
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: he might be gone.

851
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd go that far, but it

852
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 4: would definitely make for a very very uncomfortable off season,

853
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: no doubt about that.

854
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: Now, the big rivalry has always been Oklahoma Oklahoma State.

855
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: What is Oklahoma State's response to this move that OU

856
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: is going to the SEC? Not good conference, not good,

857
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: not good.

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00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't blame him. I'd be pissed too, But in

859
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: moving forward, you know, you listen to my gun. He's

860
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: making it sound like things are going to be better

861
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: for Oklahoma State. So for me, I think it opens

862
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: up a boatload of opportunities for Oklahoma State to become

863
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: a dominant force in the Big twelve going forward.

864
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: We'll see how it pans out. But they're not happy

865
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: right now, Andy not happy right.

866
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him. I mean, that was a big game,

867
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: the big rivalry the state run. Will they still play,

868
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: will they still be on the schedule.

869
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: Not in football, but they will in basketball, baseball, softball.

870
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: And every sport that they play together.

871
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: But it'll take some time for football, I think going forward,

872
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: probably in about a decade from now.

873
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Okay, we've talked major BOKU football right now, After football,

874
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: what the hell else is there to do in the

875
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: great state of Oklahoma?

876
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 4: Tell me golf, baby, Come on, man, we got the best.

877
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: We got a great group of golf courses. Watch yourself

878
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: some softball and I.

879
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: Mo a lot. I get on my riding mower and

880
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: I mow a lot.

881
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 4: But under you know this, it's an underappreciated, undervalued state.

882
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: You guys fly over country, but it's awesome, great people

883
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: and great golf courses. Just tell them about it, nicka Door,

884
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 4: kiss up at Southern Hills Country Club.

885
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, But honestly, I mean you're talking about, you know, individually,

886
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: going out and play golf. But what other sports are there?

887
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: And what is there to do after the football season

888
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: is over? I know, baball, we got the Thunder. That's

889
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: about it, right.

890
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean we got the Oklahoma City Thunder.

891
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 4: It's a professional sports team. They're growing downtown.

892
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

893
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 4: See, there's talk of a new arena now for case,

894
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: So I think, what do they call BLC Big little city?

895
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: So it's Oklahoma City's growing, Tulsa's growing. It's it's fun, man,

896
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: It's fun to have a professional sports team in here

897
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: that people are passionate about.

898
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to ask this question because I lived

899
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: in Tulsa. I thought Tulsa would be a great pro

900
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: team up to town. Okay, what was the reaction when

901
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City got the thunder and Tulsa was kind of

902
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: slapped around?

903
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: It's a little bit frustrated.

904
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: I was in touls at the time, right, and uh,

905
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: it was just all Oklahoma City. We need to make

906
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 4: him the Oklahoma Thunder at some point, but I don't

907
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: think that's ever gonna happen.

908
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Here we go, Okay, Chris Plank Athey, Firman there angry

909
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910
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Speaker 3: The Raiders fans on Twitter hats. I wish I had

928
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: your optimism.

929
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: It's just not a very well run franchise right now,

930
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: and it hasn't been for a while, especially whenever you

931
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: consider Josh Jacobs season last year, Andy was the second

932
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: best season in the history of the Raiders organization le

933
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: Mary Fray, it was the second best season in Raiders

934
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Speaker 4: franchise history.

935
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Speaker 2: Time out for I hear what you're saying. Forget about

936
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders. You take a guy that has led the

937
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: league in any sport and not getting his contract. That's

938
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: insane and any name the sport, a guy that leaves

939
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: the league in a category which he did.

940
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: Any sport, any statistical category outside of maybe what turnovers?

941
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: Right right?

942
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: You lead.

943
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: So it's funny I was reading during the break, I

944
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: was sending this to because I'm gonna be back tonight

945
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946
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,600
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947
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: had a really in depth column about the struggles right because,

948
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: and when I say struggles, I mean for the running

949
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: back position in general.

950
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: You've seen you just.

951
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: Hit the list, right, Cream Hunt, Ezekiel Elliot, Leonard Fournette,

952
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook, all cut, all done. I mean guys that

953
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: you think you could at least get some sort of

954
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: value out of, guys that can win football games for you.

955
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: It's got to be frustrating for that group of players

956
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: because they look now and they see guys that were

957
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 4: and again no offense to second third day draft picks,

958
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: but third, four to fifth round guys that are jumping

959
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: up that depth chart that haven't even done and haven't

960
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: done anything and might not even do a fractional day've accomplished.

961
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what's gonna happen, to change it, though, Andy,

962
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: how do you? How do you change this? What's gonna

963
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: be the way that?

964
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Look, I look at a guy

965
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: like Derreck Henry. Derek Henry is the guy. He's the

966
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: meat and potatoes of the Tennessee Titans offense. He makes

967
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: twelve point five million a year. Ryan Tannehill a converted quarterback,

968
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: he was like a tight end, right, he comes back

969
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: to averaging twenty nine point five million a year. So,

970
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: in other words, I see the devaluation of the position

971
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: because you can only get three good years out of

972
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: these guys, and then the rubber on the tires is Rodolph. However,

973
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: I also understand maybe, and I'll never go public with this,

974
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: but I think as a group, these running backs are saying.

975
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: Wait a minute.

976
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: You know, we're the offense. We're one of the key

977
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: elements of the offense. And these quarterbacks, some of them

978
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: are untested, some of them are busts, some of them

979
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: are not franchise quarterbacks. And then make the Desmond Ritter

980
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Okay, we talked about these guys that are

981
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: making money that haven't done anything big money.

982
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's unfortunate when you start looking over the

983
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: last Oh gosh, I guess we could go back a

984
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: decade from the Chiefs of won two of the last four,

985
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: and who was their star running back?

986
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: I mean this year was a seventh round pick. The

987
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: Rams won a Super Bowl with lesson stellar running it.

988
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: I mean Leonard Fournette. Probably you can look back and say,

989
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 4: I mean, there's the guy, but they didn't really necessarily

990
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: reward him. So it's almost as if a running back

991
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: is the one position to where even though receivers dip

992
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: it thirty right, even though receivers tend to fall off

993
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: a cliff once they turn thirty, at running back, it's

994
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: almost like a female gymnast or a female tennis player

995
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: was like, what you're in You're twenty now, Oh, you're

996
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: too old to do this. Running Backs are like, whoa,

997
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: you're twenty six. Hold on here, we can't really be

998
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: paying you. I don't know if there's going to be

999
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: a magical way to flip. It's kind of you know,

1000
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 4: you go back and Belichick started this the joke about

1001
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 4: you can never figure out which fantasy running back to

1002
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 4: play for the Patriots because it would be a different

1003
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 4: guy every single week, and they would be successful. So Andy,

1004
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, you've covered the Bengals for a long time.

1005
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: You've seen great running backs go through. Even this year

1006
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: you saw Joe Mixon who got a pretty big contract.

1007
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: He took a pay cut, he had to take less

1008
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: money to not get cut. So and I think he's

1009
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 4: been pretty good, right, based on everything that was around

1010
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 4: him coming out of college.

1011
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: And he's needed and not good. He's needed, and the

1012
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Bengals know that he's needed. But they also knew that

1013
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: they had him over a barrel with a his off

1014
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: the field situations, which I think was a factor to

1015
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: some extent, but also they understand that, you know, look

1016
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: with it or from maybe six mil, he was getting

1017
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: a nine point four million year ago.

1018
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna take it.

1019
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Otherwise he's gonna walk. And he had he said the

1020
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: right things when he signed the contract the week ago.

1021
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: He said, I want to be in a winner. Yeah,

1022
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: I think we got a chance to win the Super Bowl.

1023
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean he said all the right things. And you

1024
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: know what, even throughout the situation, he did attend the

1025
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: mini camps. He didn't miss them. So I think he's

1026
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: been a good soldier on feel good teammate too. Yeahah,

1027
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: And I don't.

1028
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the way to continue to

1029
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: get it done. Right, Do you have to be a

1030
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: good soldier?

1031
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: Do you have to say, yeah, we'll take a we'll

1032
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: take a little less and make sure we get up

1033
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: Because you're right, Joe Mixon knew he wasn't going to

1034
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: get anything more than that on the free agent market

1035
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: right now.

1036
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1037
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: There's all this buzz about maybe the Raiders should trade

1038
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, but I don't know if they would get

1039
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: what they would consider good return value. I'm not saying

1040
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: you have to give them ten year deals, right Andy.

1041
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: I just think you give these guys good three to

1042
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: four year deals.

1043
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: You're getting a valued commodity year in and year out.

1044
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: I like see Hero Why. I think he's got a

1045
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: chance to be a really good running back for the Raiders.

1046
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he's like as good as Josh Jacobs

1047
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: is gonna be. Like I like Eric Gray, I like

1048
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: Matt Brida in New York. They're not Saquon Barkley. Right,

1049
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I had to look to

1050
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: see what the Dallas Cowboys had behind Tony Pollard right now,

1051
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: because I didn't even know, I had no idea what

1052
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: Dallas had as far as any other opportunity on their

1053
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: depth chart right now, because to me, right I always say,

1054
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: oh yeah, Ezekiel Lelly, well, he's a free agent. Do

1055
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: you know who the other running backs are right now

1056
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: on Dallas's roster, Malik Davis, Rico Goudi, Ronald Jones, and

1057
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: then there's Deuce Vaughan, who I think is going to

1058
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 4: be really good that they drafted in the sixth round.

1059
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: So you're telling me those are a group of guys

1060
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: that you feel like you could win more with than

1061
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 4: Tony Pollard.

1062
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 3: It's just it's wild.

1063
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 4: To see just how teams have looked at it and said, yeah,

1064
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: we'll wait out because eventually you're not gonna have any

1065
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: options and you're gonna have to come to us for

1066
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: what you're gonna get paid.

1067
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 3: Period.

1068
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about teams and coaches at that

1069
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: that we tooked the wet lane kiff it early on

1070
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: today about adapting to the new situation. And il I

1071
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: think the NFL has to adapt right now because what

1072
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: we have seen, you know, and this happened years ago,

1073
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: the disappearance of the fullback, you know, the fullback right

1074
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: now in the NFL is a dinosaur. I think teams

1075
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: have fullbacks, but the Raiders, and I think the Ravens.

1076
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: That's about it. No one, No one has a full back.

1077
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: Giants have one too, Giants have Chris Merrick, but he's

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00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: he's what we'll see if he makes the roster.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they played without a full back because I

1080
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: think at that point in time, the running back was

1081
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: somewhat important, but the receivers became more important, and then

1082
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback all of a sudden became from an important

1083
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: position to the position, you know, maybe the most important

1084
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: position in all the sports, because you can't win in

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00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: the NFL without a franchise quarterback.

1086
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Period.

1087
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: End of the story.

1088
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: And it's go And I'm sorry.

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00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: No man, it's okay.

1090
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, you look at for instance,

1091
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 4: let's go back, right, you talk about the quarterback position

1092
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: and valuing it. We're not too far removed from Oh look,

1093
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 4: Tampa won a quarterback, won a Super Bowl with Brad

1094
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: Johnson at quarterback and Tren Dopher. He led the uh

1095
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: he led the Ravens to a Super Bowl, even though

1096
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: both those teams had incredible defenses. Right, I love the

1097
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: run that at then the Washington Redskins went on, but

1098
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: after Joe thai'smen, right, they did it with them myriad

1099
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 4: of different quarterbacks, right, Mark Rip and Doug Williams. We've

1100
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: seen that shift to everyone wanted a John l Way

1101
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: type quarterback, but it just wasn't where it is now.

1102
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 4: So maybe there is a return. Maybe we do a

1103
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: one eighty over the next few years and you see

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00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 4: teams that start valuing all right, we need to grind

1105
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: the clock. We need to we need to get these

1106
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: guys that can protect the football, protect our quarterbacks, be

1107
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 4: a safety valve.

1108
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: But don't I don't know if we're heading back.

1109
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: Towards that, we might. You know who's going to start

1110
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: that movement, Kyle Shanahan, because right now you got the

1111
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: forty nine ers who are peg to go to the

1112
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and have no quarterback. Brock Perty I mean,

1113
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: come on, really, and.

1114
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: What did they do what they invest in?

1115
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: They when they got Christian McCaffrey right, who is and

1116
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: they gave up some draft capital to go get them

1117
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: quite a bit to go get him. So maybe that

1118
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 4: is a trend to where they say, all right, y'all

1119
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: can try to do this with less than stellar running backs,

1120
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: and San Francisco had some success with less than Mark

1121
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: Kee names.

1122
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: Right, Chris McCaffery is more than a running back. He's

1123
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: a receiver, absolutely, and that's just got to be an idea, right,

1124
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: exactly right. And the funny thing is when he left Carolina,

1125
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: their running game increased. They had a better running game

1126
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: Outcaffrey left, So so, in other words, that answered the question.

1127
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure management at Carolina said, well, yeah, he made

1128
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: big money, but we didn't need it because our statistics

1129
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: are better in the run game without him, which is

1130
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: kind of crazy, but it is true. That's what happened.

1131
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: And in people, I think there's a lot of I'm

1132
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: not I'm not as in on fantasy.

1133
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: The last couple of years as I was. I was

1134
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: maybe in a previous life. I used to love fantasy football.

1135
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: But in the fantasy football world, you know you're only.

1136
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 4: Taking running backs if there are guys that can get

1137
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: you points as receptions, right, PPR leagues and things of

1138
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: that nature. So you're looking for versatile, multipurpose guys. The

1139
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 4: era of just to do that, you hand the rock

1140
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 4: to thirty times Andy, that's that's you and I watching

1141
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: Barry Sanders highlights, and that's you and I looking back

1142
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: at oh gosh, Marcus Allen highlights. Right, those years we're

1143
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: talking about Eric Dickerson worked courses. And you know it's

1144
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: not like those guys had short careers either, right. I mean,

1145
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: even Barry Sanders retired early, but the guy was still

1146
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: in the league for a minute. So is Eric Dickerson

1147
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: was still successful and productive in his latter years. Teams

1148
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: were giving up first round picks to go get him.

1149
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: So it's been a fit. I love how many different

1150
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: theories there are out there as to why. I don't

1151
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: know if there's one singular thing I would love next

1152
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: week when Schwartzy is back, for you to tackle this

1153
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: with him, because I don't think the Saquon Barkley to

1154
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: well Tony Power is gonna sign his deal.

1155
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: I think, what about I don't think.

1156
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: Cook did this guy rush for a rush for more

1157
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: than eleven hundred yards the last four years? I know

1158
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: he made over twelve million dollars a year he was released.

1159
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: How does that guy get released? I mean, really, if

1160
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: you are a running back in high school, you want

1161
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: to switch your position, you know, to play running back?

1162
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: If you're outstanding all stater like in high school, with

1163
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: visions to go to the NFL, forget it. I don't

1164
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: want to be a running back really absolutely.

1165
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: Hey listen, I'm not gonna play running back anymore. Can

1166
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 4: put me a slot, receive anybell, be back at corner

1167
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: because that's where the real money is. I don't think

1168
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna change. I don't know if there is a

1169
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: magical shift to it, but it does for me. I

1170
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: feel a lot more confident as down as I am

1171
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: right now, I feel a lot more confident about my team.

1172
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: If Josh Jacobs is in camp, if I'm a Giants fan,

1173
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: you guys can dump on Saquon all you want, but

1174
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: I feel a hell of a lot more confident is

1175
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 4: Saquan is there. I feel a hell of a lot

1176
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: more confident in Dallas, if Tony Pollard is there. All

1177
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: of these guys matter to their team, and it's wild

1178
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 4: to see how we found ways to truly justify why

1179
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: they shouldn't get a fair market value for what they do.

1180
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Really, he's Chris Plank. I'm Andy Fourman. You

1181
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: could get Chris Plank on Twitter at Plank Show at

1182
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Speaker 2: Andy Furman FISR or we'd love to hear from you

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Speaker 2: number three. But his bags are packed and he wants

1192
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Speaker 2: to move again, but who wants him? That's next a

1193
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer with loads of baggage. We'll get to

1194
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Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. Speaking of minutes, is

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Speaker 2: twenty two minutes past day hour. This is Fox Sports

1196
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Chrisplank Infrageschwartz. I'm Andy

1197
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Furman and a big day for you, Chrisplank, because you

1198
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: got my man Arnie span you tonight. What are you

1199
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: gonna do? Take a little nap after this show.

1200
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm driving. We're road trippings.

1201
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: Uh, We're coming to you live from the six to

1202
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: one eight right side of the river. This morning from

1203
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: Saint Louis. I'm in Wood River, Illinois. My niece got

1204
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: married last night. Andy, I officiate. I was the officiant.

1205
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: I did the ceremony. I will now from henceforward here

1206
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: on these Fox Sports Radio airwaves, I would like to

1207
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: be referred to on the Lord's Day as Reverend Plank.

1208
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: Going forward ward, I've been ordained. Thanks to me.

1209
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, time out. Did you do that deal

1210
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: by mail to get the license? You filed by mail?

1211
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: On I click, I clicked a link.

1212
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: That's all I son did. My son did that to

1213
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: his friend. He did his friend's wedding in.

1214
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was wild.

1215
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I paid a little bit of money to

1216
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: have them send me the document, but honestly, I clicked

1217
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: a link. That's how I got basically ordained. So if

1218
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: you guys, this is like our church service today. And

1219
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna drive to Smoking Scorch and Hot Oklahoma from

1220
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 4: here and listen to all my podcasts, listen to Fox

1221
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: Sports Radio throughout the road trip, get yelled at for

1222
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 4: having an AirPod in by my family in the car,

1223
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: and then we'll be ready to rock and roll tonight.

1224
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: I'm looking right now for our show tonight at some

1225
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: of my favorite college football over unders Andy.

1226
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: We might have to get into that last program. I

1227
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: am ready to roll. There we go.

1228
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: That's a little bit basketball with you right now. Talk

1229
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: about James Harden. He's back in the news. You had

1230
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: these clowns that are in the news all the time.

1231
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's enough already, but this guy has scored

1232
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: over twenty six thousand points, but the career average about

1233
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: twenty four a game. I got to ask you, is

1234
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 2: he a Hall of Fame? Because I had an argument

1235
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: with Rob Parker at the other day and he scratched

1236
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: his head. I think if he'll be in the Hall

1237
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: of Fame, I think he will be a Hall of Famer.

1238
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: Well, in basketball, there's been a Baseball has become the

1239
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: Hall of very good.

1240
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: It's there's been a few guys recently that got in.

1241
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I don't have a problem with it.

1242
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: But if we're the Hall of Fame, there's certain dudes

1243
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be in there. And for me, I think

1244
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: right now, if you won an MVP, I think you're

1245
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: always going to be in that conversation. Am I okay,

1246
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 4: Am I maybe hedging this bed. If I say, if

1247
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 4: his career ended today, I would say maybe I would

1248
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: sit and I would fight in that room, probably against it,

1249
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 4: but it wouldn't be a hill. I'm ready to die

1250
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 4: on like I don't need to you and I could

1251
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: get into this conversation and it wouldn't be me telling

1252
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: you you're you're you're terrible, you're wrong, You're a moron.

1253
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: I'd be a listener. I'm like, okay, well sell me

1254
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: on this because I'm not all in on it. But

1255
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. If he goes to Philly and

1256
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: has a big year, which he can, right, I would

1257
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: not have a problem with it. If he on the title,

1258
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: he'll eventually get in.

1259
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: Look, and you know you mentioned the other sports with

1260
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: Hall of famers, it's not really a Hall of Famer.

1261
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: And I like Scott Roland, I really do. He played

1262
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: for the Reds. Is a good guy, good team leader.

1263
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: I just never thought.

1264
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: I never saw you know what.

1265
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 4: It's funny you say that, and not to dump on

1266
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: his parade today, but that was a guy I was

1267
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: thinking of.

1268
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: I was shocked, you know, I was shocked. Look, many

1269
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: guys get on the ballot. When they retire five years later,

1270
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: they put the guy's name in the ballot and they

1271
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: never get a vote. But Scott Rowland to get in

1272
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, that's that's big. I mean, I

1273
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: beg you, he never thought he'd be a Hall of Famer. Really, yeah, exactly.

1274
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: Now, I don't expect anyone to go, oh gosh, why

1275
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: am I There was a Cardinal player a couple of

1276
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: weeks ago that was it was honored with the Cardinals

1277
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and.

1278
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: He's like, none, I don't really turned it down.

1279
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 4: I know, I don't expect anyone to turn it down, right,

1280
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: but man, you would have to give me one hell

1281
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 4: of a sales job for a great dude. And and

1282
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 4: you know what's funny you say that. I think how

1283
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 4: you treat the media matters. If Barry Bonds was a

1284
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: good dude, I'm not in trust me, guys, We're not

1285
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: going down.

1286
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: The steroid a road here.

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Speaker 4: But if Barry Bonds was a good dude and everyone

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Speaker 4: liked him, and I'm not saying he's not a good dude,

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Speaker 4: just if you listen to people talk about the way

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Speaker 4: he treated the media, you would think that he walked

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Speaker 4: in and just started cussing everyone out and kicked him

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Speaker 4: out of the clubhouse. I think there'd be a little

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Speaker 4: bit more of a softer landing spot for Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's what happened. That's left it

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Speaker 2: call and Steve Carlan was terrible with the media. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he had a weight. He was nasty with the media.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if that matters as much in the association

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Speaker 4: as it seems to in other halls of fame. And

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Speaker 4: how many different basketball Hall of Fames do we have

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Speaker 4: right now? I mean I feel like there's like three

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Speaker 4: different halls of fame. Whenever it comes to back skip ball,

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Speaker 4: You're like, wait, is.

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Speaker 3: This the important one?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: This is this the one that matters? Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, so I right now I would say yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would have a problem with it. But if someone

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Speaker 4: were like no, because of this, this and this, I

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: would waiver. I would make you so mad, Andy, I

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Speaker 4: would change my opinion more than Arnie Spaniard does. I

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Speaker 4: mean it would be I think it's bad, like crazy,

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Speaker 4: But the baggage that he carries is going to hurt

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Speaker 4: him with some vol absolutely, and he's had odds with

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Speaker 4: Darryl Morey, the general manager of the seventy Sixers, who

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Speaker 4: was the man who brought him over to Philadelphia when

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Speaker 4: he was GM in Houston and his waistline bloated up

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Speaker 4: in Houston, didn't accomplish much in Brooklyn. He had signs

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Speaker 4: of some life during the playoff series against Boston this

1319
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: year with the seventy six is I gotta ask now

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: he wants to be traded again? And he went He

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Speaker 4: went the route now which I can't stand, scrubbing the

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: seventy sixers stuff on his Instagram deal. That's like the

1323
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: new age thing, like, and you're not saying you want

1324
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: to leave you he scrub your Twitter and scrub your Instagram,

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00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: and now.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get traded. I guess it works that. If

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00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: it works, do what I guess. But I'm not so

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: certain there's a market for this guy. I really, I

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Speaker 2: really don't think anybody would one of them.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because if you and I were doing this

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00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: show together like thirty days ago, right less than that,

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: let's say, three weeks ago, this would have been all

1333
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: three hours of the show where it's James Harden, what's

1334
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: going on with Damian Luller.

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: Now we're inching closer.

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: Camps have started in the NFL, so the NBA takes

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00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: a back seat. But I think both of us with

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Speaker 4: the way I'm not gonna speak for you, man, but

1339
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: for me, I would have thought by this point that

1340
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: we would have been talking about a James Harden deal

1341
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: and he's off to the Clippers, and that Damian Lillard

1342
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Speaker 4: had been dealt to either the Heat or the Nets

1343
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: or whomever came with the best package. I don't know

1344
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: if I've ever seen two stories that seems so red

1345
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: hot absolutely just disappear, disappear.

1346
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean there's been because it's July and there's plenty,

1347
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: plenty of time. There's no immediacy, said they let it wait.

1348
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: That's as they do what they do. I'm with you

1349
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: on that. I mean, I just don't think there's a walk.

1350
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he really screwed up the Brooklyn Nets. He

1351
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: did really well.

1352
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: Let me pose this. Let me pose this to you.

1353
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: If you're a fan.

1354
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 4: If Andy Furman is a die hard fan of let's

1355
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: say the Clippers b BN Mallard for a moment. If

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00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: you're a diehard fan of the Clippers and you've already

1357
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: got Kawhi and Paul George, and that's not work. I mean,

1358
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: let's face it, guys, when Kawhi, Leonard and Paul George

1359
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: went to the Clippers, we all thought at that point,

1360
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: it's going to be the Clippers and the Lakers battling

1361
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: and lo and behold, here come the Nuggets and they

1362
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: wanted title and out of nowhere, the thunder are good again.

1363
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it's nothing has happened positive for the Clippers

1364
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: since this move, right, would you think that bringing over

1365
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: James Harden would be the difference maker when one of

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00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: the guys that you gave up for Paul George and

1367
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: Shay Gilgess, Alexander has become one of the best scores

1368
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: in the league somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you risk giving away anyone to go

1370
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: get him?

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: Because the guys that make the decision of the owners,

1372
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: and the owners are nothing more than fans. That's that's

1373
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: what they do. We've seen that in New York with

1374
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen with the Mets, and we'll get into that

1375
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: later on today. But I mean, he signs Schertza, he

1376
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: signs Verlander, he's a fan. But these guys, the best

1377
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: days of behind them. You can't fight for the time.

1378
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: These guys are thirty seven, thirty eight years old. You

1379
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: can't get it done at that age.

1380
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Speaker 3: You just can't.

1381
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy, really.

1382
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: I agree.

1383
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 4: I agree, and so I don't think that James Harden

1384
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: is the missing piece for any team right now. Perfect

1385
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: I think that he can be good in Philly. Philly

1386
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: moved on for Shake Melton. He's on his way to

1387
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: Minnesota this year. They still have Tobias Harris, they still

1388
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: have the returning MVP in Joel Embiid. It's still a

1389
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: really good team with what I still think is a

1390
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 4: is a good head coach coming in to take over

1391
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 4: that can take advantage of it. So if Harden can

1392
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: reset and buy in, and Darryl Mory can sell him,

1393
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 4: or the Sixers ownership can sell him, if he's all

1394
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: in Andy, I think Philly's got a chance. I don't

1395
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 4: think that he is the missing piece anywhere else right now.

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Joel Embiid. Here's a guy

1397
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: that Doc Rivers pushed at the time to be the MVP,

1398
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: and he got the MVP. Now he's whining and crying.

1399
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, I want to get I want to get

1400
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: a title. I want to surrounding plays around. Wait a minute,

1401
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: you're the MVP. Get it done, roll up your sleeves

1402
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: and play and play hard. I don't hear Yanna's crying

1403
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: like that. Really, Yanna's never cried like that.

1404
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: He got her here.

1405
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hear MVPs crying about they need help

1406
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: to win. I don't hear it. But Joel Embiid does,

1407
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: and I think it's wrong. That really turned me off,

1408
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: really did.

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Speaker 3: Don't blame you.

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing is you can come out

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 4: and you can say, oh, I was just kind of

1412
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: joking a little bit, but man, not in this era.

1413
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 3: The toothpaste is out of the tube.

1414
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 4: Everything seems to be calculated right, and everything goes viral.

1415
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: And when Joel Embiid, when the Sixers are in a

1416
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 4: situation like they are this offseason, which I'm not saying

1417
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: they're in turmoil, but they've made a coaching change, Harden

1418
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 4: opted in for the sole reason of trying to get

1419
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 4: dealt and then he spews all this to the athletic

1420
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 4: who reports, oh, they did him wrong with the deals

1421
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: that he made, and they're you know, all this Boohoo

1422
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 4: story for James Harden.

1423
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: It's almost as if, all right, you pull back, the

1424
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 3: last one.

1425
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: Thing you need is Joelle Embiide out there complaining about

1426
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: things and hinting that he could go somewhere else.

1427
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: It's just a nightmare, just a tough situation for Hill.

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Speaker 2: He's Chris Plague and Andy Firmer w Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Ready. By the way, this future Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer isn't coming through that door, or is he.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up next on Fox Sports Sunday Live for

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Speaker 2: the Tirack dot Com studios. But first, here's another Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer and nic cope with all your sports. I

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Speaker 2: was gonna make the joke, but you already said it, Andy,

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Speaker 2: so thank you very much. What was the joke? Well,

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Speaker 2: just that I'm the future Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: Oh we all know that, all right. Guys, Women's World couple.

1438
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: We got one match going on right now. France and

1439
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: Jamaica is still scoreless. They're in the seventy second minute.

1440
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: A lot of rain in Sydney. Currently finals from the

1441
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: over nine hours, the Netherlands beat Portugal one to nothing.

1442
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: Dutcher up next for the US on Wednesday, night, That'll

1443
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Speaker 1: be a nine Eastern on Fox. He also had third

1444
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Speaker 1: ranked Sweden come back from down a goal in the

1445
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Speaker 1: second half and avoid being upset by South Africa two

1446
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Speaker 1: to one the final, as the Swedes got the game

1447
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: winner in the ninetieth minute final round of the Open

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Speaker 1: Championship in progress. It is wet and windy at Royal Liverpool.

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Speaker 1: American Brian Harmon leads by five shots at twelve under.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see the leaders teeing off now over the

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Speaker 1: next hour to an hour and forty five minutes. In

1452
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Speaker 1: the NFL, Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones not reporting for

1453
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: the start of training camp. He wants a new contract,

1454
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: but ESPN says the two sides are far apart on negotiations.

1455
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: Former Vikings running back and now free agent Dalvin Cook

1456
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: said he's going to be patient and take his time

1457
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to signing with a new team for

1458
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Speaker 1: the upcoming season. Finals in baseball from Saturday had a

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Speaker 1: couple first placed teams going at it. In Milwaukee, Brewers

1460
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: rallied for a four to three win against the Braves.

1461
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: Brewers are a game and a half up on the Reds.

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Red's it back to back to back home runs at

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Speaker 1: a four to two win over the Diamondbacks. He also

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: had a matchup of division leaders in Arlington. Dodgers crush

1465
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: the Rangers sixteen to three. Red Sox and met split

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Speaker 1: a double header, and the nightcap, Boston hit four homers

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Speaker 1: off Max Scherzer for an eight to four win. Twins

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Speaker 1: inch by the White Sox three to two. Orioles gave

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Speaker 1: up a five run lead, but they ultimately beat the

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays six to five. Baltimore in first place in

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Speaker 1: the Al lease A's Meat the Astros four to one.

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Speaker 1: Pirates shut out the Angels three to no.

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Speaker 3: Thing.

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Speaker 2: Now on back to Andy Furman and Chris Plank, Thank

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Speaker 2: you Nick seeing about an hour and now why would

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Speaker 2: he that's coming right up. We've crossed the fifty offline.

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Speaker 2: minutes from now now, little football field goes, that's right

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Speaker 2: up your rally, right, SKUs. I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I know you.

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Speaker 2: We've been ready since yesterday. This guy officially retired in February,

1489
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: but Tom Brady's former teammate, Antoine Winfield Junior thinks that

1490
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks might have reached out about a

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: possible return. And I'm thinking right now that Winfield said

1492
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Speaker 2: this not so much because he thinks Brady's really gonna

1493
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: come back, because he looked at the Bucks roster with

1494
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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trash as possible quarterbacks, and he's

1495
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Speaker 2: probably praying every day, please come back. That's what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: I think that is too. I think tom Brady's done.

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Speaker 4: I really don't. I don't think we're gonna end up

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Speaker 4: with a Farvian type situation with Tom Brady. And maybe

1499
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 4: you hear all of the buzz around the Raiders. I'm

1500
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, I've started to sell myself that Jimmy g

1501
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 4: can win some games if he's healthy, which is why

1502
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: I almost feel like they're out of any kind of

1503
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: you know, two and fifteen, they're gonna be just good

1504
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: enough to win four games this year and at least,

1505
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 4: you know, from a Raiders perspective. And no, I'm not

1506
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 4: trying to turn everything into the Raiders, but that seems

1507
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: to be some of the buzz with where Tom Brady

1508
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: he could end up.

1509
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: But the Bucks still hold.

1510
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 4: His rights and the Bucks still have a massive dead

1511
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: caphit this year because it's Tom Brady. So you know,

1512
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 4: we talked about this a little bit this week here

1513
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. I don't think Antoine Winfield, no offense,

1514
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: knows anything about what's going on in the front offices

1515
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 4: of the TAP.

1516
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: But you mentioned a right, But if Freddy were to

1517
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: come back, which I don't think he's gonna come back,

1518
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 2: I think the Buccaneers will be the team because sure

1519
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: he knows the playbook, he knows the chemistry on the team,

1520
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: he knows Mike Evans, he knows Chris Godwin. So I

1521
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: think these are the guys that he knows. He probably

1522
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable there, So I think that would be

1523
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: the team if he does come back, what would he

1524
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: He'd be out of his mind to come back. And secondly,

1525
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: He's working for Fox, isn't he Yeah, I want to

1526
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: hear what he does on TV.

1527
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: Well, this is his gap here.

1528
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 4: You got to remember, Brady is going like I should

1529
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: have done in college, which is after you and I

1530
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 4: don't know how, y'all. I gotta find either rich parents

1531
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: like you had, or he is uncaring about where you

1532
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 4: can take a gap year after.

1533
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: What are you doing after college? I'm gonna go backpack

1534
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: in the Alps?

1535
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 5: What?

1536
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: But that's what Tom Brady's doing and you know.

1537
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: And out I guess so and apparently being pretty successful

1538
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 4: at it so far, based on what Twitter dot com

1539
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 4: tells me. But I gotta tell you something, Mandy, I

1540
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 4: don't and I think you hit it on the head.

1541
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 4: Angeline Winfield is not privy to anything anything that's going

1542
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 4: on in that front office. He wants Tom back. He

1543
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: knows that I love Baker to death, but I worry

1544
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 4: about him having success in Tampa. I like Kyle Trask.

1545
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 4: They used the second round pick on Kyle Trask. I

1546
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 4: think he has a chance to be a good backup

1547
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 4: in this league. I think he sees what's on the

1548
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 4: docket this year, and I think Tampa is in that

1549
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: group of teams like Arizona that you're gonna be talking

1550
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 4: about mid season battling for that top pick in Caleb Williams,

1551
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 4: and I don't think he wants to go that route.

1552
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: So a good try. Appreciate it, but I think Tom's done.

1553
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: I gotta take him out of his word right now.

1554
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: I have a hard time and you're gonna go nuts

1555
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: when I tell you this. I have a guy like

1556
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: Tom Brady playing against guys that he's older than the

1557
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: fall them. I just think it's time. Sometimes it's time

1558
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: to move He was great, there's no doubt he's the goat.

1559
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: He was great, but it's time to move on. And

1560
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 2: with the Burroughs and the Josh Allens and the Patrick Mahomes,

1561
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: let them take sent to stage right now. That's all

1562
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1563
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 3: The NFL is in a great spot. It really truly is.

1564
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 4: Right now, the future of the quarterback position, the future

1565
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 4: of the league is in incredible hands. And even whenever

1566
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: it is an aging veteran, the storylines around it. Look

1567
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 4: how much we've talked about Aaron Rodgers this season, right

1568
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 4: it's incredible to see both, to see all of them, all,

1569
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 4: everyone talking about Aaron Rodgers, could do with the Jets,

1570
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 4: and what Jimmy g could do with the Raiders and

1571
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 4: these veteran quarterbacks moving on.

1572
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: But at the core, Arnie, I'm sorry, Andy, what do

1573
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: we have?

1574
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: I have?

1575
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm used to find with Arnie over

1576
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: this at the court? What do we have?

1577
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 4: You hit it on the head, Josh Allen, Jube Burrow,

1578
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, what Trevor Lawrence looks like they've got cooking

1579
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 4: in Jacksonville right now.

1580
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: Let's see what CJ. Stroud can do. Let's see what

1581
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 3: Bryce Young can do.

1582
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 4: Let's see what happens with Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis, and

1583
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 4: the three rookies of coadwill Levis might end up starting

1584
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: in Tennessee this year. This league is in such incredible

1585
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 4: hands with the star power at the quarterback position. We

1586
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: don't have to fall back into a Brady will he

1587
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 4: or won't he because there's so much good talent. There's

1588
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 4: so many good players in that quarterback position. This almost

1589
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 4: becomes like old school, right. I mean, it's like there's

1590
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 4: certain things we love old school. That's fine, quarterback, Let's

1591
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 4: save that old school conversation. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

1592
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 4: We don't have to generate a conversation about Brady coming back.

1593
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, have you been watching that series on Netflix? Quarterbacks?

1594
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So I watched the first episode. I got all

1595
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 4: in and then this show.

1596
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: But I don't understand why I picked Marcus Mariota on

1597
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: that who I don't either.

1598
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 4: I wonder if they went through a laundry list of

1599
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 4: guys that said no and are if they were really thinking.

1600
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 4: All right, So we got an entrenched superstar, We've got

1601
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: a veteran who might be in his final years with

1602
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 4: his team and Cousins, and we.

1603
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: Got a guy who might be on his last shot.

1604
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but i'll tell you what that first

1605
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: episode I loved.

1606
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 4: I can't wait to dive into it more.

1607
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: But I will tell you this much. I had a disdain.

1608
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: I did not like Kirk Cousins. I didn't like the

1609
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: fact with the COVID situation he wouldn't take a shot.

1610
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 2: I'm in love with him guy I watched, I watched Netflix.

1611
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: I think he's a hell of a family guy. I

1612
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: just like the guy. He's not a big he's not

1613
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 2: a big ego maniac kind of guy. He's just a

1614
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: regular guy with his wife and kid. I love him.

1615
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: I love Kirk Cousins. I've changed him. I won one

1616
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty on him.

1617
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 4: And that's sometimes when you see guys in their family element,

1618
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: it can change your entire perception of It's funny that

1619
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 4: you bring that up. I wish everyone could see the

1620
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield that I because if you saw him, you're like, Damn,

1621
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: that dude's awesome. I wish people could have seen the

1622
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray that I saw, right. I mean, these are

1623
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 4: guys that when you have that perspective and you see

1624
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: him day in and day out, it can change everything

1625
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: you think about him. You know, it's funny that you

1626
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 4: say that I got a buddy of mine, and because

1627
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 4: I feel the same way you do, Andy, I got

1628
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 4: a buddy of mine that works on one of our

1629
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: affiliates in Tulsa, Jimmy Poplin, who's the exact opposite.

1630
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 3: He's like, I can't stand any of these guys. I

1631
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: think I hate them.

1632
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: More watches so far, but I can't wait to dive

1633
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: all in on that series and you get a different perspective. Okay,

1634
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 4: let me what do you make of Cousins taking a

1635
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: day off where he says, I'm going to take a

1636
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 4: day off during the football season period, there's one day

1637
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: I get away.

1638
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: I like that.

1639
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: You want to do what they do with something. I think, right,

1640
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what he.

1641
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: Did every season when they're Sunday to Sunday, he takes

1642
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 4: a day off there in game week.

1643
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I looked at his house. I mean,

1644
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: it's like a little shack. Doesn't have these multi billion

1645
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: dollar homes. It was like a wooden shack on Lake Michigan.

1646
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: I loved it. I think he's just a regular guy,

1647
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm happy for a success. Really, I really.

1648
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 3: Am, even though this might be his last year with

1649
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: the Minnesota.

1650
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: When his wife traveled to Washington when they had that

1651
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: game against the Commanders that time, when he goes back

1652
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: to the team that drafted him, that was great. I mean,

1653
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 2: I just the storylines have been great. It's like the

1654
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: old uh. I guess the old HBO show used to

1655
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: be Hard Knocks, which has really morphed into something which

1656
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: I don't even like anymore. It's hard Knocks, yeah, but

1657
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks is not like it used to be. Whatever

1658
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: was amazing, it was great but they have all this

1659
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: off the field stuff now on the Quarterbacks on Netflix,

1660
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: which is great. That's what people want to see. I

1661
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: don't want to see guys running around their underwear. I mean,

1662
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. The only good thing

1663
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: about Hard Knocks is when they had the cuts. I mean,

1664
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: it was tough, but then I know, I know. But

1665
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: we'll see what Aaron Rodgers has to say when we

1666
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: move on. All right, he's Chris Plack and Andy Ferman.

1667
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: He's in for Jiff Schwartz. This is Fox Sports Sunday

1668
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports. Ready now, this game can break your

1669
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,320
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1670
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,360
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1671
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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. About eleven

1672
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: minutes now before the top of the hour. He's Chris

1673
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: Planks it for Jeff Schwartz, I mean de Furman, and

1674
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: we're live from the tier rack dot Com studios right

1675
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Sunday. It's time to play bottom

1676
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: barrel betting. Let's play it's bottom late.

1677
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: You put my money to sleep, people, get my money.

1678
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 6: I'll put your brain to sleep betting.

1679
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: All right, baby, the man in charge, who also doubles

1680
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: as a stand up comment the big e Ethan Miller. Yes,

1681
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: how you doing?

1682
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 8: He good to be here once again?

1683
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like it, but it's over sounds so choice

1684
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: to be on ball.

1685
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 3: He missus Schwartz, that's what it is.

1686
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 8: Four fifty am.

1687
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 5: I gotta get Starbucks, first named star, last name Bucks.

1688
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: That's fou.

1689
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: Here you go, all right, here we go. What happened

1690
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: last week?

1691
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you went three and two, which is very

1692
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 5: out of the ordinary.

1693
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 8: And to you this Jeff went one in four.

1694
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: I beat him. We'll gotta tell him that next week.

1695
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: Good is cricket?

1696
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 8: It's clearly not there.

1697
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: All right, he's good? It done.

1698
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 8: Speaking of cricket, we're gonna do Shi. What is it?

1699
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,879
Speaker 8: Sheri Lanka?

1700
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 5: Is that how you Sayka and Pakistan going at each other?

1701
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 8: That's really exciting.

1702
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: You Let the guests go firsts all right.

1703
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: Chris, I would have Is there a number? Is there

1704
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: an over? Pick them? Okay, give me Sri Lanka.

1705
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 8: Good for you.

1706
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Pakistan. I think I've heard them.

1707
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: They play. They do play a lot of cricket in Pakistani.

1708
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with them. I don't know why. You

1709
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 2: know there's gonna be a league, The National Cricket League

1710
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: is coming to the US of A.

1711
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 8: I did hear the Pakistanians? I did good.

1712
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: I heard that too, Yes, thank you, one of the best.

1713
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens tonight.

1714
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 5: Onto lacrosse. Uh, Premier League Lacrosse. You guys know anything

1715
01:14:58,439 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 5: about that?

1716
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? I've been watching it?

1717
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, all right.

1718
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know who's good the Archers versus the

1719
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: water Dogs.

1720
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 8: What do you got?

1721
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 7: Uh?

1722
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 3: The Archers versus the water Dogs? Do you know what?

1723
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 3: I believe? This is the ABC game today to you?

1724
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 5: So?

1725
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1726
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 4: The Archers are four and one, the water Dogs are

1727
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: four and one. Give me the Archers today.

1728
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: Who's the home?

1729
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 3: Who's her at home?

1730
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: I believe either home the Arches at home. Yeah, look

1731
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: at you, Chris, you know I look at him.

1732
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 8: Why not throw twenty dollars.

1733
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the water Dogs.

1734
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 3: I'd like to get a T shirt that has water Dogs.

1735
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: Mac o'keeff take the over on Mac O'Keeffe points today.

1736
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: Listen to you. Oh my goodness, I cheated.

1737
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 3: You heard him, America.

1738
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 8: Mac o'keef is that his name.

1739
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you got it? Even you got I'm.

1740
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 5: Throwing five bucks in right now here we go onto

1741
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 5: arts darts. We love darts here at Fox Sports Radio.

1742
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 5: Nathan Spinale versus Johnny Clayton.

1743
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man, I gotta go with the Professor

1744
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: Johnny Clayton.

1745
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 5: That sounds like they're adult film industry people. Nathan Aspinelle

1746
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: and Johnny Clayton.

1747
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: All right, any that's not a real name. Johnny Clayton.

1748
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: There's no way. There's no way.

1749
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 3: He's a wel he's a Welshman. I'll take Johnny Clayton.

1750
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go.

1751
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: Let me go with Espinale.

1752
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1753
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: For some reason, I feel people with weapons. I don't

1754
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: know why. I just have that feeling.

1755
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 3: By the way, Johnny Clayton's nickname is the Ferret. Sorry,

1756
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 3: go ahead.

1757
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: How do you know this stuff? You're killing me?

1758
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm googling like crazy as soon as he says

1759
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 3: the name.

1760
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 8: Hey guys, what is uh? Snooker? Does anybody know what

1761
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 8: that is?

1762
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: It's where you roll the ball and you gotta get it. No, no, no,

1763
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 3: snooker is like.

1764
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: That's just a card game, isn't it?

1765
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 3: Pol it's like pool.

1766
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 5: It's like yeah, okay, all right, yeah, all right, let's

1767
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 5: if it's pooled, then we'll just all right, these two guys,

1768
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 5: let's go with the UK Championship. Uh, let's see who's

1769
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 5: gonna win. Ronnie O'Sullivan or Neil Robertson.

1770
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man, you put An O'Sullivan out there,

1771
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna get that dumb. I'll go Ronnie O'Sullivan.

1772
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: Andy, Really, I mean, why the Irish been a good

1773
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: and snooker? Is that it? I guess I'm gonna go.

1774
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Robertson. Probably related to Oscar Robertsons.

1775
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: He's probably good. Go with Robertson. All right, this is

1776
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: my logic, that's why. But I did win last week,

1777
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: so with that logic, so we'll see it. They can't

1778
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: what's next? What's next?

1779
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 8: They can't tell you anything?

1780
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 5: Right to rugby rugby rugby South Sydney versus West. Is

1781
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 5: there like a place in Australia name West?

1782
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I'll take I'll take South Sydney in

1783
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 4: our final thirty seconds, Andy, you got South Sydney, I

1784
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: got South Sidney.

1785
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna going West just because you got South Sydney and.

1786
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: We went opposite every single pick.

1787
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: That's why I like that. I'm not gonna jump on

1788
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 2: your back. I'm not doing that. I'm not I'm just

1789
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: not gonna do it. And I'm gonna let you know

1790
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: if I win next week. But if you win, you'll

1791
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: never hear from me.

1792
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1793
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: Ok, there it goes, really all right? Question? Is is

1794
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: he really the goat that much more? We're right here

1795
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Speaker 2: in the world of sports, and all of a sudden,

1824
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Speaker 2: now you know, it's amazing how media people could sway

1825
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: from one end of the spectrum to the other. What

1826
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: do I mean by that? Like I live in the

1827
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: Cincinnati area. After you live in northern Kentucky, but you

1828
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: know a little south of Cincinnati, and prior to the season,

1829
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: every media person, radio, TV, print, whatever it may be. Oh,

1830
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, they're gonna lose one hundred games. You know. Now,

1831
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: when the Reds go on a five to six game

1832
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: losing streak, they're yelling and screaming, Oh, not anything. They're

1833
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: gonna go to the playoffs. It's amazing to go back.

1834
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: And you know, nobody knows. That's the beauty of sports.

1835
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: Nobody knows, And I go back now. In the National

1836
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: Football League, Bill Belichick for years has been considered the Goat,

1837
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: the greatest coach of all time. Now they're saying he's

1838
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 2: on the hot seat. I get it. You know, Tom

1839
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: Brady's gone since he's been gone to him in twenty

1840
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: five and twenty five one playoff appearance is Bretty's gone.

1841
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: Can you tell me this now? How in the hell

1842
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 2: can it be the goat and in the same token

1843
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: be on the hot seat that's saying that right now?

1844
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: If they don't go to the playoffs this year, he

1845
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: could be gone. Really, I don't see that happening.

1846
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 4: You need to jump on with me tonight because this

1847
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 4: seems to be a regular talking point for my Sunday

1848
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 4: Night partner Arnie Spanier.

1849
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't get it.

1850
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 4: Whatever he's gone, oh, I mean, yes, he wants him

1851
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 4: fired if he doesn't make point this year. Now, I'll

1852
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: say this you you now, I don't know if I

1853
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: want to say, you have a relationship, but you've worked

1854
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 4: around Bill Belichick before?

1855
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 3: Right? Have you been around that much? Okay, that's what

1856
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: I thought. I love you, And I.

1857
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 4: Guess from my perspective, if Bill Belichick's on the hot seat,

1858
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 4: who in the hell is safe?

1859
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1860
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if a point, if you're telling me that

1861
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 4: a guy that even in those years minus Brady still

1862
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 4: found it in his fiber and bean to make the

1863
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: playoffs with a rookie quarterback, if he's on the hot seat,

1864
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 4: none of us are safe ever.

1865
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: Regardless of what you do. And I don't know why.

1866
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 4: I don't know why Robert Kraft is not just squelching

1867
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 4: this and ending it. I don't know why he continues

1868
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 4: to let it fester.

1869
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: I think those two I really do.

1870
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: Well.

1871
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 4: If there is, hey, why don't you just go look

1872
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 4: and see what happened, and in the most famous rifts

1873
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: between owner and coaches, it never create.

1874
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: Go out of the go back to the massage, Paul

1875
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: and relax. Really, that's what you need to do. You

1876
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,959
Speaker 2: need to do leave Belichick alone.

1877
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 4: In the great owner coach riffs of all time, I

1878
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 4: feel like a majority of the time, the coach ends

1879
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 4: up winning.

1880
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 3: You know, Al Davis and John Gruden.

1881
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 4: Maybe Philadelphia's a good exam And I don't know how

1882
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 4: much of a riff there was between Andy Reid and

1883
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 4: the ownership of the Eagles, but Philly was able to

1884
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 4: turn it around and when a Super Bowl and read's

1885
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 4: been cooking here. Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson did not

1886
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 4: necessarily work out.

1887
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 3: For the Cowboys.

1888
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 4: They haven't had that same level of success success since right. Sure,

1889
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 4: Switzer won and then he fell into I guess the

1890
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: bad graces of Jerry Jones. Though there's still boys today,

1891
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 4: so I don't I don't know if I was Robert

1892
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 4: Kraft instead of this, he oh, we gotta go do this.

1893
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, listen, we're gonna be fine. We're gonna get

1894
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 4: this done. I believe in Bill Belichick. There's your script, man,

1895
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: You're to screw this up. And I don't know how

1896
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: to tell you this, Robert Kraft. People aren't going to

1897
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: the Patriots because of you. They're going to the Patriots

1898
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 4: because they want to win championships and they want to

1899
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: play for Bill Belichick. And I think sometimes we get

1900
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 4: a little bit carried away. All but he runs it

1901
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: like this, and he runs it like that, and no,

1902
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 4: he can run it however.

1903
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: He won. He's got bling all over the place.

1904
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: He wants. He won titles. He won titles as a coordinator.

1905
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: He can go somewhere else and win again. And I

1906
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 4: just I don't know why the Patriots ownership, I don't

1907
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 4: know why Robert Kraft specifically doesn't end this. And listen,

1908
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to give credit to Mike

1909
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 4: Florio Pro Football Talk.

1910
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: They've done a good job of continuing to build this up.

1911
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 4: And y'all just love all the drama content that's out there,

1912
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 4: and you eat it up. A bunch of sheep being

1913
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 4: let around by a headline. I can't fathom the fact

1914
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 4: that Craft hasn't put an end to this. Hey, Bill

1915
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 4: Belichick is going to coach as long as he wants.

1916
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: I want to win. He wants to win.

1917
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,919
Speaker 4: He's going to retire Patriot regardless period, end of discussion.

1918
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 2: I don always want and see how this thing kind

1919
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: of festered. How it started was a Sante Samuel, who

1920
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 2: basically I think of sour grapes. He's not a big

1921
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: fan of Belichick, and he played, he was drafted by

1922
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: Belichick and three played five years under in the New

1923
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: England and he was on this All Things Covered podcast

1924
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: and he said that Bill Belichick is just another coach.

1925
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: But I think the fact that he was cut and

1926
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 2: he didn't play and whatever it may be, I think

1927
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of a personal sour grape situation. But it

1928
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: kind of grew like a vine. It really did. A

1929
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel said this, and everybody picked it up. I

1930
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: think Ben Volan from the Boston Globe wrote a column

1931
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: about it. And I think it's nuts. I think it's crazy.

1932
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: I really knew he's won everything and anything under the sun,

1933
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: and now he's on the hot seat. Give me a break.

1934
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 2: Come on.

1935
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's Sante Samuel believes that either. I

1936
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 4: don't think any football fan I'm with you believes that.

1937
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: I think we now realize that we've got to say

1938
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 4: something outrageous. You want to get overly dramatic and talk

1939
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 4: in pregnant pauses and tell me that he hasn't done

1940
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: anything three years. They made a bad mistake last year.

1941
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: And I don't know what they were thinking. They tried

1942
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 4: to make an offensive coordinator out of a guy or

1943
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 4: a pair of dudes that have never been offensive coordinators before.

1944
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 3: It was a mistake. But what did they do.

1945
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 4: They went out and brought in a guy that they've

1946
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: been the most successful with at times as a coordinator

1947
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: in Bill O'Brien and the quarterbacks coach and the success

1948
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 4: that he's had. Think what you want of Bill O'Brien

1949
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: Houston fans as a coach, head coach, but as an

1950
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, dude still gets it done.

1951
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 3: Get in Alabama, man, you know you believe that too.

1952
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what's that? Andy?

1953
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: No, you didn't get it done as a general manager

1954
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: and you so that's where he failed, really offensive coordinator

1955
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: top shelf. And I think we're going to see it,

1956
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: DIVI I think Mac Jones in the New England we'll

1957
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: see a change. I really do.

1958
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't, by any stretch of the imagination, think anyone

1959
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: is beyond reproach in anything right, everyone is can be

1960
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: fired or be let go, but there's got to be

1961
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 3: a place where when you reach it, it's like, all right,

1962
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 3: there you go, that's the man right there. And it's

1963
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: just it's wild to think that that wouldn't be a

1964
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 3: place that Bill Belichick is Right now, you can be

1965
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: the ultimate Patriots hater on the planet and you still

1966
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 3: tip your cap. You can call him the.

1967
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 4: Chi triots, or that they the spygate and deflate gain

1968
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but still they found a way

1969
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 4: to get it done. And that to me, it just

1970
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 4: it should end with Bill Belichick always being the coach

1971
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:27,520
Speaker 4: of the Patriots.

1972
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: And I honestly think they're going to screw this up.

1973
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 4: I do think they're going to be better though this

1974
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: year that's going to be a fun division in the

1975
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 4: AFC East and Andy. But I do think that they're

1976
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: going to be better than people are anticipating right now.

1977
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: You know what, I love what you said. I'm running

1978
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: it down and I to keep it because you said

1979
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: that if he's not safe, who is right? Really? I

1980
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: mean what happened? I mean, can you imagine if Zach

1981
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Taylor the coach of the Bengals. His first two years

1982
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: was working for Craft. He'd be gone. He'd be gone. Really,

1983
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: I think that Mike Brown said, with you want about him,

1984
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: the owner of the citsin Bengals has patients. Or maybe

1985
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 2: he didn't want to pay the guy off. I don't

1986
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: know the reason, but he had patience, or maybe he

1987
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: saw something in Zach Taylor Brugs. Right now, Zach Taylor

1988
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: has turned the ship around. You know, certainly Joe Burrow

1989
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: had a lot to do with that. But again, you know,

1990
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: you get a quarterback like a Tom Brady who did

1991
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: it as well. But you know, look, I think the

1992
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: fans in New England have been spoiled. I think they

1993
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: can make the playoffs they stay healthy. I think the

1994
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: Pagers can make the playoffs. But that AFC probably is

1995
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: the best division of football. And the competition I have

1996
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: there with Kansas City, with Buffalo, with Cincinnati, it's going

1997
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: to be real tough and now with Aaron Rodgers on

1998
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: the Jets, be real tough for them to make the playoffs.

1999
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: But I think they can.

2000
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting to me because I think I

2001
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 3: think Belichick to me still is one of the most

2002
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: intense dudes when it comes to understanding the game, right.

2003
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 3: He's not someone that is out on his boat and.

2004
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 4: He's not taking a day off off. He's not going

2005
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins right. Even in his success, this is a

2006
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 4: guy that is grinding in every aspect of it. If

2007
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: it was a situation where you ever heard Bill Belichick

2008
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 4: at a press conference, go, just tired, guys, this is

2009
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 4: wearing me out. This is hard, you know, It's just

2010
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 4: he never does that. Now, he doesn't give you much

2011
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: in a press conference, but he's never a guy that

2012
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 4: ever acts like any moment is overwhelming or anything of

2013
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: that nature. He's always I mean, we tried to end

2014
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 4: the Patriots dynasty a thousand times. They lost a bad

2015
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 4: Monday night football games. We're on a Cincinnati and everyone

2016
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 4: laughed and joked about it. Well guess what, and when

2017
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 4: they wanted Cincinnati the next week. I mean, they're just

2018
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: He's He's one of the if not the greatest coaches

2019
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 4: in NFL history, and you've got an owner that's out

2020
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 4: there saying, well, you know, we got we gotta win. Yeah,

2021
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 4: no bleep, And no one wants to win more than Belichick.

2022
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 4: This is one of the weirdest developing stories this offseason

2023
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 4: that we could possibly, in any way, shape.

2024
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: Or form, have a guy like Belichick on the hot seat.

2025
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy old school. He's an old school coach. I

2026
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: think a lot of players probably don't want to play

2027
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: for him. I think is Sante Samuel one of those

2028
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: guys couldn't handle what they call the Patriot way, you know,

2029
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: and it works. I don't care what you say. It works.

2030
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: But one of the things that really kind of I

2031
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: gets put a little dagger and Belichick is the fact

2032
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: that not only did they go down when Brady left,

2033
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: but when Brady left, he won the Super Bowl in Tampa.

2034
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: So that hurt.

2035
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh, that's absolutely hurt.

2036
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: That hurt him, you know, but it's not going to

2037
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: hurt his legacy. He's great. He's a great coach. He

2038
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: always has been a great coach. Never had a lot

2039
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: of talent to work with. You talk about the offensive

2040
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 2: side of the football when Brady was there, they never

2041
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: spend money on that. Think about how many Hall of

2042
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Fame receivers that they've had on the Patriots when Brady

2043
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 2: was there. How many? Maybe one?

2044
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was in the latter part of his

2045
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 3: career too. Wasn't in his prime right.

2046
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Defensively, he's great. I mean, he's a great defensive mind.

2047
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: I hope he makes the playoffs this year because I

2048
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: will tell you this much. They start off like one

2049
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: in four zero and three. These guys are going to

2050
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: come out of the woodwork. As you say, it's a

2051
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: talking point. People love it. They may not even believe it.

2052
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: They may not believe it, but it's a great way

2053
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: to get exposed, to get your head above water, like

2054
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: asanthe Samuel.

2055
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 3: Did, and and we.

2056
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 4: The only thing we need jerk more on than the

2057
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 4: NFL week to week is the NBA Playoffs. Game to

2058
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 4: game right, Oh, they lost the game one, this series

2059
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 4: is over all. This team won game two. Well, obviously

2060
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 4: this series is back.

2061
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: Right.

2062
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 4: We need jerk like crazy. We a game to game

2063
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 4: in the NBA Playoffs. Week to week. In the NFL,

2064
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 4: nobody can accept they lost that opener. But you know

2065
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: last year X, Y and Z team lost their opener

2066
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 4: and still made the playoffs. It's like you want blood

2067
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 4: every single week. It's like they lost, that quarterback needs

2068
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: to be traded, that coach needs to be fired. You're like, oh,

2069
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 4: hold on, this thing is a little bit of a marathon.

2070
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Not a sprint in the National Football League. Sure, it's

2071
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 4: the shortest regular season that we have of any professional sport, unfortunately,

2072
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 4: but even if they do struggle, I'm not ready to

2073
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 4: count out Bill Belichick. Ever, I already count them out

2074
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 4: last year down the stretch. So hey, go ahead, Bill, Bill,

2075
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 4: who's spill? Go ahead, Patriots, go ahead, Robert krap move on,

2076
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 4: do it. I'm telling you, it'll be one of the

2077
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 4: great regrets in the history of that Patriots franchise, almost

2078
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 4: as much as letting Tom Brady get away Chris Plank.

2079
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: You hit it right on the head. You hit on

2080
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: the You know, I hope that that people in Major

2081
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 2: League Baseball are listening to you right now because you

2082
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: hit it on the head. This is the answer. This

2083
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: is why baseball can't get any traction, Not because it's

2084
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: the greatest sport football, not because there's more riches. Because

2085
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 2: from week to week. You said it right now, the

2086
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: NBA basketball players, there's a storyline after every game. Oh,

2087
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: this team one, this team looks they're done in football,

2088
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: you know, Belichick, if they lose the first game of

2089
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 2: the year, the first game, they'll stop putting the nails

2090
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 2: in the coffin. Baseball can't do that. It's too long.

2091
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 2: The season is too long, because if you play Team

2092
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 2: A in April and you get swept, you know the

2093
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: answer is going to be, oh, we'll play them again

2094
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: in June, We'll play them in August. Right, that's the problem, really,

2095
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 2: So you hit it on the head. Why base can't

2096
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 2: get the traction, why baseball doesn't have the drama and

2097
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 2: they don't have the storylines. That football and basketball has

2098
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: seasons too long, which I've always maintained they should take

2099
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: a page out of the Mint of Leagues and after

2100
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: half the season's over, after eighty one, games start all

2101
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 2: over again at oh to oh to give a teams

2102
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 2: a chance who are out of it, and the teams

2103
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: that win the first half automatically get wild card berths

2104
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

2105
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 3: It's working in the minor leagues, man, for years. It

2106
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 3: has ye years, Yes, it has for years.

2107
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 4: I will add if the Patriot just to put a

2108
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 4: cap on this, let's say this does end up with

2109
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 4: Craft going, and maybe there's Patriot fans that are listening

2110
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 4: today and say, yeah, Bob Craft has to stand up.

2111
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 4: All right, I'm telling you right now, Bill Belichick will

2112
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 4: have a job in an instant. I mean it won't

2113
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 4: even be a blink of an eye, Dallas, Vegas, you

2114
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: name it. He would have a job in a heartbeat.

2115
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 4: If Bob Kraft decides that there's another direction they need

2116
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 4: to go with this franchise, if they struggle this year, I.

2117
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Will say this a he'll never get fire. And I

2118
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 2: think that if Kraft wants him gone, they'd have some

2119
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: sort of a mutual agreement that that Belichick decided.

2120
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: To move on.

2121
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd embarrass him and fire him.

2122
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 3: I would almost you can't do it.

2123
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 4: I would almost say fire me if I had what

2124
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 4: he has built up, That's what I would say, fire me, buddy,

2125
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 4: let's see you move on.

2126
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: I got to listen tonight because I'm sure you and

2127
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Arnie gonna hit on this. But I can't believe Arnie

2128
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 2: wants Belichick fired. If they start up playing what's the Lune?

2129
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: What's the reason behind that? I don't get it.

2130
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't even what he's daughter.

2131
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 2: And who do you replace him with? Who would want

2132
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 2: to come in and follow a legend like that?

2133
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: Hey, there's certain there's certain guys you don't want to replace.

2134
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 4: You don't want to be the guy that replaces Greg

2135
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: Popovich in San Antonio. You don't want to be the

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Speaker 4: guy that replaces Bill Belichick in New England. It's just

2137
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 4: not going to work for you. You don't want to

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01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 4: be the guy that replaces andy' reaiding Kansas City whenever

2139
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 4: he decides to step away or be the next quarterback

2140
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 4: of the.

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01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 3: Year or so.

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Speaker 4: There's just certain jobs that you don't want because you're

2143
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 4: just destined to fell because you're not going to live

2144
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 4: up to that level.

2145
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Speaker 2: And there are certain guys like you in the media

2146
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: you want to follow. Like, you know, Marty Brennan was

2147
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame of forty plus years behind the

2148
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: microphone calling Cincinnati Reds baseball games. I wouldn't want to

2149
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 2: follow him. I wouldn't want to follow him, you know,

2150
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't. There are certain guys you just don't

2151
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: want to follow. You can't follow Vince Scully. Would you

2152
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 2: really want to follow Vince Scully in LA Behind the

2153
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 2: microphone is tough. I'd give it a try. I'd give

2154
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 2: it a try. Yeah, I mean, people gonna give it

2155
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 2: a try. But it's a tough call. That's a tough call.

2156
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 3: To do.

2157
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to follow Chris Plank.

2158
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 3: I don't follow Andy Furman. Oh you think.

2159
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: Shollowing me on the highway in my car, that's how you.

2160
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 2: All right, he's Chris Plank. Get him on Twitter at

2161
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Plank Show. We'll read the tweets at Andy Furman FSR

2162
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: or better yet, we'd love to hear from you. Eight

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01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's our number. That

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01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 2: translates to eight seven seven nine to nine six six

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Speaker 2: three six ' nine. The blame game at the end

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Speaker 2: of this hour, but right now they're baseball's biggest failure.

2167
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 2: That's next. Now, who said money can't buy happiness? All right,

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Speaker 2: that's coming right up. It's about twenty four minutes past

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Speaker 2: day hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Chris Plank,

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Speaker 2: as if Jeff schwartzon. We're live from the ti iraq

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01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: dot com studios. A little baseball talk right now, which

2172
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,440
Speaker 2: kind of a strange for you. You're a big softball

2173
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: person in Oklahoma. What's the closest professional baseball team by you?

2174
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a Dodgers fan.

2175
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 4: So in both Dodgers at Triple A and Double A

2176
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 4: affiliates are here in Oklahoma. Oklahoma City's got the Dodgers,

2177
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 4: and Telsa's got the Drillers, Triple A and Double A.

2178
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 4: We're at Dodgers State, baby, But apparently Andy, we're close

2179
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 4: to a lot of baseball teams because like five of

2180
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 4: them are blacked out in our market. Baseball's blackout rules

2181
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 4: remained the dumbest thing ever.

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01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 3: I got the package this year.

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01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 4: I got this, the X t Rainings package because I'm

2184
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 4: like the last person that still subscribes to Direct TV.

2185
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 4: And do you get I don't know how I get

2186
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: games blacked out there, but I truly do. But Rangers

2187
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 4: everywhere as a Cardinal fan. I'm in Saint Louis right

2188
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 4: now for this show.

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01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 2: Why would you get games blacked out in Oklahoma when

2190
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: there's no pro team near there?

2191
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 3: Thank you? I don't know.

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01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Especially sport, this is a major legue business sport that

2193
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 2: really and truly needs to not alienate fans. They need

2194
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 2: to make fans and sell their fans. And what they're

2195
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 2: doing right now is having you know, games on Sundays

2196
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 2: at eleven am twelve pm to pay behind the wall

2197
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: of Amazon. You can't do that to fans. You got

2198
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 2: to bring them in.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it, never understood it. But I'm a

2200
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,440
Speaker 4: big Dodgers guy, so yes I am. I am all

2201
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 4: in right now on the Dodgers winning eight of ten

2202
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 4: and they'll lose today because that's what they do. They

2203
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 4: won the first two games of the series and then

2204
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 4: lose the third. But I'm also interested to see what

2205
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 4: it looks like as far as uh, I don't know,

2206
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 4: maybe getting in the mix for one of these starters.

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01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 3: It could be on the market. You think there could

2208
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 3: be some big names out there in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see what happens on to about the Mets

2210
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: right now, because they have the biggest payroll in baseball

2211
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 2: right now and they saying it forty six wins and

2212
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: fifty two losses, which is ridiculous, it's embarrassing. But you've

2213
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 2: got guys like Max Schurzer and Justin Verlande do forty

2214
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: three point six million next season? All right, So the

2215
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 2: trade deadlines right around the corner. What do the Mets

2216
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: do to they trade that they dump these guys up,

2217
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 2: that they sell or not sellers or not? What do

2218
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: you think I would say this my question, I would

2219
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 2: say that if you're Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets.

2220
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: If you sell, you're putting off the white flag that

2221
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 2: you're giving up the seasons over. You can't do that

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01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 2: to the fan base. So I think you got to

2223
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: keep what you got, and I think that's what he's

2224
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: gonna do. I don't think they're gonna sell anybody. I

2225
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: really don't.

2226
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 3: I don't either.

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01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 4: Should they sell probably now, I'm not gonna lie. I

2228
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 4: don't know how staunch, how solid the Mets minor league

2229
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 4: farm system looks.

2230
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 3: Like right now.

2231
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're if they have a rich

2232
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 4: farm system like you have in Baltimore and like you

2233
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 4: have in Los Angeles, but I don't necessarily know if

2234
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,520
Speaker 4: you're going anywhere.

2235
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 3: With this team.

2236
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 4: I mean, at the very least, the show Heyo Tani sweepstakes,

2237
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 4: right the conversation with him. At the very least, the

2238
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: Angels can say, hey, we're within shouting distance of a

2239
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 4: wild card. There are four games back, so they could

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01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: probably sell their fan on that. For the Mets, you

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01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 4: can't even really sell that right now. I mean, you're

2242
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 4: seven games out of even being in the wild card

2243
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: conversation right now. I don't I don't know how you

2244
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 4: can't consider this an unmitigated disaster. And I'll be honest

2245
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 4: with you, Andy, I thought it was I thought it

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01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 4: was gonna work. I thought it was gonna work like

2247
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 4: Gangbusters whenever you bring in Verlander and you bring insures

2248
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 4: or I thought, my gosh, these Mets, they're gonna be

2249
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 4: there's you're gonna win a series every time if you

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01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 4: got those two going. But you almost felt like they

2251
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 4: were doomed from the moment before the season, starting when.

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01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 3: Their closer gets hurt celebrating.

2253
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 4: You know, when that happens, you're like, oh, geez, we

2254
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 4: just it's a there seems to be a dark sky

2255
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 4: over everything. But I don't know, you know, I don't

2256
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 4: think this is Buck show Walter's fault. I think you

2257
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 4: brought it up earlier. These these owners are like fans

2258
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 4: and it's like they're playing fantasy football or fantasy baseball.

2259
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think you can sell. I

2260
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 4: think you've got to stay the course right now, and

2261
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 4: with you, especially for.

2262
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 2: Right you know. It's funny. I was a channel surfing

2263
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 2: last night. I got something. I think it was like

2264
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 2: ESPN you or two or whatever, And I don't know

2265
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: what it was, and they had a thing about the

2266
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 2: Yankees and the Dodgers, and I watched it and they

2267
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 2: had like Billy Martin when he was managing the Yankees,

2268
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: and then he said that that George Steinbrener would call

2269
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: him up in the dugout make sure that Reggie Jackson

2270
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 2: were back clean up and for spite, you know, Billy

2271
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: Martin with about him fifth. And so one day Billy

2272
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 2: Martin was so upset with the phone calls he ripped

2273
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 2: the phone out of the wall in the dugout. I mean,

2274
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: these are great stories, but that's what owners do that

2275
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: they middle and they don't know the sport, but that's

2276
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: what they do. But I guess they feel with the

2277
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 2: money that they have signing the checks, that got that

2278
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 2: kind of power.

2279
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 3: You know. And it's funny because.

2280
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 4: We saw last year how incredible this fan base is.

2281
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean.

2282
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: The Mets fans who have been often scorned and you know,

2283
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 4: they haven't had a title in a minute, but it's

2284
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 4: it's a really diehard passion fan base. Data is I

2285
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 4: say this, there's several teams right now that deserve better.

2286
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 4: The Mets are one of them. And I thought they

2287
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 4: were getting it everyone loves Steve Cohen when he bought

2288
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 4: the team. It also shows you how quickly it can sour, right,

2289
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 4: I mean, it is a fine line between goat genius,

2290
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 4: hero and disaster.

2291
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 3: Over analyzer and just failures.

2292
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 2: So you know what, you bring up a great punt

2293
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 2: because a year ago, just a year ago, at the

2294
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 2: opening day they have a big to do in downtown

2295
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with the Reds and Phil Castellini saw the owner

2296
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: of bob Pastil. Phil Castelli came up and said, we

2297
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,959
Speaker 2: gonna go? Were you gonna go? I mean like basically

2298
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: saying like, you guys are trapped no matter how big

2299
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: by well, are you still gonna come watch us play?

2300
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, now the Reds are winning. They're

2301
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: a game and a half behind Milwaukee in the Central

2302
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: in the National League. You know, they had forty thousand

2303
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 2: again last night in Cincinnati, they had like seven eight centots.

2304
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 2: Right this year, they forget about what he said. Fans

2305
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 2: are very resilient. Give them a winner, you know, forget

2306
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 2: about bobbleheads, forget about free T shirts, figet about everything else.

2307
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 2: Just give them winner and they'll go. They will go

2308
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 2: to the games. And they forgot about what he had

2309
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 2: to say. That's it. You're right.

2310
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 3: Give Mellie Day La Cruz and they suddenly they forget

2311
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 3: everything that's ever been negative in the history season as baseball.

2312
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 3: Like you said earlier, now they're mad. It's like, what, well,

2313
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: hold on, We're not in first place anymore. What's going

2314
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 3: on here? What's wrong with this team? Where it's our

2315
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 3: starting pitcher? You better go make a move, right.

2316
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 4: It's funny how those we are resilient as fans, but

2317
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: how those expectations quickly shift. I'll give you one more example.

2318
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 4: I brought up Via Dodgers quite a bit. I was

2319
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 4: so out on them early in the season. It's like,

2320
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: what in the world are we doing?

2321
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 3: This is terrible.

2322
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: Dave Roberts is messing with the lineup. We can't be

2323
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 4: consistent with anything. Yes, I said, we suddenly you get hot,

2324
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 4: you got a four game lead in the West, and

2325
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 4: you're like, man, this Dave Roberts guy, he's brilliant.

2326
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 3: Look at what they're doing with the lineup right now? Right.

2327
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 4: I wanted him fired after, you know, a month into

2328
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 4: the season. So the resiliency is definitely being challenged in

2329
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 4: New York with how bad the Mets have been this

2330
01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 4: year after how much they.

2331
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 2: Invest to decide what you were going in. No, I

2332
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: want to pick this up. I want to talk about

2333
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: the Otani situations.

2334
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 3: That's the first.

2335
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna move along. He's Chris plank on Andy Furvan.

2336
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: But look for these teams to make the jump from

2337
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 2: worst to first. That's the first. Nit Kope always been

2338
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 2: in first. He's got all your sports.

2339
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I don't think there's gonna be a

2340
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: ton of scoring for the final round of the Open

2341
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Championship today. It is wet when it is just looks miserable.

2342
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: The poor camera guys they can't track the ball flights

2343
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: and in a dome.

2344
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 2: They should play golf under a dome.

2345
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: They just need a wall there right in front of

2346
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: that ocean at least take some of the wind away.

2347
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: So we'll see here. Brian Harmon is your leader. He

2348
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: is not teed off yet. He's doo to tee off

2349
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: in about forty five minutes. So we're just getting to

2350
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: the top of the leaderboard here. Guys like McElroy he

2351
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 1: is teed off recently. Rom will get going here shortly

2352
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 1: as well. Harmon at twelve under for the tournament five

2353
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: shot lead. Cameron Young, another American in second place, and

2354
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: so we'll keep an eye on them. The Wall get

2355
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 1: going here over the next forty five minutes. Everything from

2356
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 1: the Women's World Cup between last night and this morning

2357
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: is now final. Netherlands beat Portugal one to nothing. The

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01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: Dutch are up next for the US. Wednesday night nine

2359
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Eastern on Fox, France and Jamaica played to a scoreless draw,

2360
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,799
Speaker 1: and then third third rank Sweden.

2361
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 2: They had a title in there.

2362
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: They were down a goal in the second half against

2363
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: South Africa, who's ranked just fifty fourth in the world,

2364
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: but Sweden gets it done. They got the game winner

2365
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: in the ninetieth minute. In baseball, Dodgers, speaking of, they

2366
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: crushed the Rangers yesterday sixteen to three. Hit a bunch

2367
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 1: of home runs. Freddy Freeman had a couple of them.

2368
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: Texas did have to put shortstop Corey Seeger on the

2369
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: ten day injured list with a sprained thumb. Brewers rallied

2370
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: for a four to three win against the Braves. Brewers

2371
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: game and a half up on the Reds, who beat

2372
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks four to two. Twins just past the White

2373
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: Sox three to two. Red Sox and Mets split a doubleheader.

2374
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Orioles blew a five no nothing lead, but they ultimately

2375
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: beat the Blue Jays six to five. A's beat the

2376
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: Astros four to one, Pirates shut out the Angels three zip.

2377
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Let's send it back to you guys.

2378
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: All right, Nick, great job, see you next week. I

2379
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 2: hope okay. Chris plank Andy former Chris Infra, Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: game come up about seven eight minutes from now. I say,

2387
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Speaker 2: will one man make a difference, Let's talk about this show.

2388
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 2: Heytani sweepstakes. First of all, if I'm an owner of

2389
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 2: a team and i'm independent race so to speak, wild

2390
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 2: card race, I'm not gonna rent a player for the

2391
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 2: rest of the season. If I'm gonna get Otani, I

2392
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: want to fleck years to come. All right, I don't

2393
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 2: know why everybody's making such a big deal about this,

2394
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 2: because there's only several teams that could afford him, that

2395
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 2: can get him Yankees, Dodgers, maybe maybe the Giants. Okay,

2396
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 2: who else could get I'll tell you right now, I'm

2397
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna make you feel pretty good about this. I think

2398
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 2: he's going to stand on the West Coast. I think

2399
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 2: there's gonna be at Dodgers. Eventually, the Dodge is going

2400
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 2: to get him.

2401
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 3: I think so too.

2402
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 4: I've struggled with this, Andy, because I think if you're

2403
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 4: the Angels at your core, I don't think you can

2404
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 4: trade a generational guy like show Hey. I think, but

2405
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 4: I know that the natural reaction and response is he's

2406
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 4: not going to resign there.

2407
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 3: He's tired of losing. Who are we counting on that

2408
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 3: knows this? Like? Who knows show Hey, right, Jim Bowden right?

2409
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he knows show Hey. He's talking to

2410
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 3: other general managers, I don't think they know what he wants.

2411
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone truly knows what Show Hey o. Tim.

2412
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 2: I think he wants the West Coast, though he likes

2413
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 2: the West Coast.

2414
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 4: I think he likes the West Coast too. But I

2415
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 4: would say, I this isn't like people are like, well,

2416
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,719
Speaker 4: you know they the Philly screwed up when they traded

2417
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 4: didn't trade Bryce Harper, and last year you saw Juan

2418
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 4: Soto and get delt. I think this is on a

2419
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 4: different level than any of them. I mean, this is

2420
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 4: this is truly. I mean, the guy is the leader

2421
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 4: in just about every offensive and bitch category there is.

2422
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 4: He can do it both Andy, So in my mind,

2423
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 4: I understanding, yes, you risk losing him in free agency.

2424
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 4: You're gonna make a competitive offer. You've made things good

2425
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 4: for him outside of you know, putting a champion.

2426
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 3: You've tried Anthony. Who knew that Brenda Anthony Rondona was

2427
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 3: gonna come to the Angels. You're gonna spend a bunch

2428
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 3: of money to build a round show, hey, and bringing

2429
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: Rendona names like that, and they would suck. I mean,

2430
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 3: at least the Angels have tried. I just can't allow

2431
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 3: my enegy to right. But I can't be the guy

2432
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 3: that trades him, right.

2433
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 4: I gotta say, listen, I'm gonna do everything I can

2434
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 4: to make this work. And if we lose him, that's fine.

2435
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 4: This whole idea that the Nationals have been set up

2436
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,759
Speaker 4: for greatness because of the Hall they got from Soto.

2437
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: I'm buying that right now.

2438
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 2: We'll see.

2439
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: I just I you know, the Angels farm system is down.

2440
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 4: But you know what, I'm not going to be the

2441
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 4: guy that trades show Hey. I'm going to do everything

2442
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 4: I can to keep him around.

2443
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be your legacy. Like the guy who

2444
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 2: traded Babe Ruth and who sold bab Ruth to the

2445
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 2: Ankles was in nineteen sixty whatever that was. But you

2446
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 2: know what I'd love to see. I'd like to see

2447
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 2: Show Hey win the MVP and the cy Young Is

2448
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 2: that possible? Could he win both?

2449
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? He could.

2450
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 2: He could love to see that.

2451
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: You know, he spoke what was it Friday night?

2452
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 4: Thursday night, and I guess they asked him if he

2453
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 4: had expressed interest in resigning with LA or if he

2454
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 4: asked to be traded, and he said, listen, I've never

2455
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,799
Speaker 4: had through his interpreter, I've never had talks.

2456
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 3: I sit down talk like that. We're in mid season.

2457
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 4: I'm focusing on the season, trying to block everything else out.

2458
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 4: Then he added if he wanted to be traded, He goes,

2459
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 4: I've never really had any talks like that. I see

2460
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 4: Perry maybe once a week in the clubhouse, and we've

2461
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 4: never really had any conversation. So there is a guy

2462
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 4: that has basically said, I'm not sitting here demanding anything.

2463
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 4: I'm not telling anyone they need to trade and people

2464
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 4: are gonna call.

2465
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 3: It was John Paul Morosi.

2466
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 4: He had the report a couple of weeks ago that said, listen,

2467
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 4: the Angels aren't actively shopping Otani. Now people are gonna call,

2468
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,600
Speaker 4: and when the phone rings, you answer it. But to

2469
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 4: get to the point where you know that's the one

2470
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 4: that the owner has to sign off on if you

2471
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 4: trade him, I.

2472
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 3: Just can't see.

2473
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 4: I can't see Andy putting pen to paper and being

2474
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 4: the guy that traded.

2475
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 2: You can't do that. Now here's the question I have

2476
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: for you. Do you have a problem listening to the

2477
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 2: interpreter at times honestly believing what he's saying translating what

2478
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 2: the player is saying. I mean, that's how crazy I

2479
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 2: am when I see that. You know, at the other day,

2480
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 2: was it Ellie de la Cruz, like three bases on

2481
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 2: two pitches, And after the game they interviewed him through

2482
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: the interpreter, and the interpreter said, all right, there I

2483
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 2: just want to win. I'm playing here to play base.

2484
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: You're full of it. You never said. Ellie probably said, yeah,

2485
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, I'm the man here. I'm just one. The

2486
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 2: ring is through the interpreter. There's some sort of a change.

2487
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 2: You know, somebody would would catch that one day. But

2488
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's possible. Maybe Showy really says I

2489
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 2: think it sucks to play here. I don't want to

2490
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: play it. I didn't want to play here anymore. Get

2491
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: me out of here. And the interpreter says, I haven't

2492
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: told about trades, you know what I mean? Could that be?

2493
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Is that possible?

2494
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 4: In the in the interpreter right, there's a lot of

2495
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 4: different things that could be at play there. Maybe he

2496
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 4: doesn't want to leave the Anaheim Ary. Maybe he's got

2497
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 4: a girlfriend or something or or or you know, whatever

2498
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 4: it might be. Or or he likes that the restaurant

2499
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 4: where he gets free stuff. I don't know, but that's

2500
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 4: a funny way. Don't look at It's like whoa, who whoa?

2501
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 4: Here I would have matched my hand.

2502
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I see these interpreters on TV, I said, really,

2503
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: I mean, is that what you're really saying? I mean,

2504
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 2: but what else could you do. You gotta just for

2505
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 2: what it's worth. But you know, and there's a lot

2506
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: of that's good. That's a great job.

2507
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 3: You know what.

2508
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 2: I saw the guy the other day on TV. He's

2509
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,560
Speaker 2: wearing like, you know, Red's garbed, like he's part of

2510
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 2: the team. I guess he travels with them, right, I'm

2511
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: sure it does. I mean, it's the greatest job in

2512
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 2: the world. But how much could you make as it

2513
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 2: a interpreter? In other words, if I had a chance

2514
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 2: to go back to school and I learned the second language,

2515
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 2: I would learn probably Spanish is a language you need

2516
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 2: to really be fluent in. I do that, and I

2517
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 2: apply as an interpreter for like, you know, the the

2518
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 2: La Dodgers. You travel with the Dodgers, you get the

2519
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 2: hotel room, you get the meals. You have nothing to do.

2520
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 2: You have nothing to prepare, no notes to study, nothing.

2521
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: All you got to do is follow your guy and

2522
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 2: whatever he says, you say it in English. Think about that.

2523
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 2: It's the greatest jump in the world. I love it.

2524
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 4: Go back, give me in college and I'll actually pay

2525
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 4: attention in Miss Peterson's Spanish class. And that way, that way,

2526
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 4: my four semesters of Spanish wouldn't have ended with me

2527
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 4: not knowing a single word, but now you've got me.

2528
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, how much of these guys make? Can they

2529
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 3: change the message?

2530
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Can we google that? Ethan?

2531
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 3: Could?

2532
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,919
Speaker 2: Could you google? How much does an interpreter in baseball

2533
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: makes to sell? I mean, he's not making six figures.

2534
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think, well, how do you? How do you

2535
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 2: try out for that? Unless Ellie de la Cruz is

2536
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 2: this guy's my intermo. Maybe he picks him out. So

2537
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: here's here's what we have. As of June twenty twenty three.

2538
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 4: The salary can be as high as one hundred and

2539
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 4: fourteen thousand, but as low as twenty eight thousand. The

2540
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 4: majority of Major League Baseball interpreters range between fifty three thousand,

2541
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 4: nine hundred dollars per year.

2542
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 2: But that's a six month still, I remember, it's only

2543
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 2: six months.

2544
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 3: That's right, with top earners making up to ninety k.

2545
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 3: So there you go.

2546
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 4: And in the minor leagues you can get eighteen to

2547
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 4: thirty eight dollars an hour, So there you go.

2548
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 2: Plus room and board, try first class. Oh my goodness,

2549
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:44,719
Speaker 2: average abroge.

2550
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 4: But the average, though andy, is only thirty nine. So

2551
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 4: across the board, the average is thirty nine. Apparently Reddit

2552
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 4: found a number where the Yankees a couple of years

2553
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 4: ago paid three hundred thousand dollars for two translators, but

2554
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 4: that also included traveler.

2555
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 3: They're traveling all that stuff in it. So yeah, WHOA

2556
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 3: not bad, not bad.

2557
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: And I'm surprised not more people are going after those jobs.

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01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're not. It might be a

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01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 3: competitive market.

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: Well could be. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know.

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01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 2: I just don't know. Oh boy, it's unbelievable. I mean,

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 2: things are out there, the paths we should have taken.

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01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: Man right, right right, Chris Plank, Andy Furman, Fox Sports

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01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, it's time to point fingers. Yes,

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01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: the blame game is next. The blame game coming right

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01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 2: up about twelve minutes now before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: By the way, at the top of the hour, Mike

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 2: Harmon and Kerry Rhoades right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. He's Chris Planking for Jeff Schwartz. I'm

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01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 2: Andy Furrman, and I do want to say Chris before

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01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: we say, I do bit, I do each one another.

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Speaker 2: I love Working with you today was great. A lot

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01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 2: of fun went really quick.

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Speaker 3: Really Oh thank you.

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01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 4: I appreciate you your spreading the word in getting me

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01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 4: on here. Thanks to the boss Man forgiving me the

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01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 4: opportunity and as nice as it is to have our

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Speaker 4: man from the Jason Smith and Mike Carmon Show coming

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01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 4: up next, let me tell you something, Carry Roads is

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Speaker 4: a rock star. I'll be tuning in for the next

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Speaker 4: three hours for Mike and Carry. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: a blaster I'll be Lords Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're live from the Ti rat dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. All right, it's time to play the

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01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: blame game.

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01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 3: Let you ruin me.

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01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: It's all your fault.

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01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 6: No, it's your fault, it's your fall, your fault.

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01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows he's a liar. That's

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01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: why there's the blame game. The blame game. Let's figure

2595
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 2: out who to blame. Yeah, let's blame Ethan Miller. Let's

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01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:47,759
Speaker 2: blame him because he's got all the things that played.

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01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Ethan, all right, Chris, actually believe it or not, Mike,

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01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 5: and carryer on for four hours.

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01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 8: Next show, now.

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 3: Full four hours?

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01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 5: Believe Oh, stay locked in with us. All right, here

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01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 5: we go. Yeah, the blame game we got, all right?

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01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 5: Who is the blame for the downgrading of the running back?

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01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 2: That's a good question to go ahead.

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01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 4: So the theory is that it dates back to like

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan, because he won with guys like Orlandis Gary

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01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 4: and names like that that don't necessarily wow you.

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01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 3: But I'll point the finger at Sean McVay. How about that.

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01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 3: Let's just go more reachents.

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01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame the quarterback because the quarterback there's so

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 2: much money, there's no money left, and the money's gonna

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01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 2: get cut somewhere. And I think that cut up from

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01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 2: the running back because it's a passing game. I'm not

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01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 2: saying you can't win without the run game. You need

2615
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 2: the run game, but they gonna go cheap for the

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01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: run game. Get a kid out out of college the fourth,

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01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: fifth round. So I blame the quarterback. Salaries.

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01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 4: You have a good offensive line, anyone can run behind

2619
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 4: it is the theory, right, so could you?

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01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? So a lot of blame though, I guess is

2621
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 3: what we learned.

2622
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 2: A lot of blame. A lot of blame.

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01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 5: Next, all right, with Messy coming to America to play

2624
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 5: in the MLS, we're you know, in my eyes, I

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01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 5: think it's I'm starting to see that. You know, soccer's

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01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 5: becoming a little bit more popular. But why who's the

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01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 5: blame for it not catching on like fire?

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01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 3: Like?

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01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 5: Why are we still waiting for soccer to be up

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01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 5: there with football?

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01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 2: That's easy. You know what it is, Chris, I'll tell

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01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: you that because it's always been. It's always been a

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01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 2: sport where mama would take the kids to the ballfield

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Speaker 2: to get them out of the house for a couple

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: of hours. It wasn't a game we had to play

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01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 2: a certain position. You just stand out there and kick

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01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: a ball. They never thought it was a great skills sport.

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01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 2: That was the problem. It was a sport where it

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01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 2: was a babysitter sport. That's what it was. In the USLA,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, never really had a professional league that developed until

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01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 4: the MLS. Over the last what fifteen ten years, So

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01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 4: I'll go with this. It's because it's on Apple TV Plus, Ethan,

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01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 4: and nobody has Apple TV Plus. Are you listening back twelve?

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01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: That's why it's not growing right now. Get me on Fox,

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01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 4: get me on FS one. I want to watch and

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01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 4: not have to try to find out how to get

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01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 4: Apple TV.

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Speaker 2: No, wait a minute, I gotta put the brakes on

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01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 2: you for a secrecause I've worked in the North American

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Speaker 2: Soccer League.

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Speaker 8: God.

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01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 2: When I worked in that league, they had some stars

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01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 2: as Georgie Bezt at Canali, Dad Pele, and they always said, well,

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01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 2: soccer's gonna be the biggest sport in the US of

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01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 2: A in the next ten years. That didn't happen for

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01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: whatever reason. And the games were on ABC. Those games

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01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 2: were on ABC, and we had sixty thousand plus when

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01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 2: we played the Cosmos in New York. So you know,

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01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 2: I was at the Fort Lauderdale Strikers. So the North

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01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 2: American Soccer League was there. It was big. It just

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01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: wasn't the right time.

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01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 4: I don't think now and the MLS has been that

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 4: next iteration of it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's got a chance, but I just feel either.

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 4: I feel like every single decade, after every World Cup,

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01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 4: we're trying to find that next step for soccer, and

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 4: it never really seems.

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01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: There's no space for soccer. The season starts in March

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01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 2: and it ends like in November, but there's so much

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01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 2: else going on. You can't compete every season overlaps and

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01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 2: they don't have a special space for themselves. That's the problem.

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01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 8: There you go, there, you have it all right. I

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 8: got one more question for you, guys.

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01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 5: We got the transfer portal college transfer portal a total

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01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 5: mess right now in the summer and they're trying to

2678
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 5: figure out something nicks in it. Who's to blame for

2679
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 5: this entire mess? Is there one person or is an

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01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 5: entire take.

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01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 3: A baby NCA going hands off, that's what it is.

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 4: They they you ever played blackjack and whenever there's a

2683
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 4: new dealer that comes in, they just clap their hands

2684
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 4: and walk on. That's what the n c A did

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01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 4: with NIL on the portal. They're like, can go whenever

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01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 4: you want one time, and here's in il We'll see

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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 4: you later.

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01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 3: There's no there's no real you know.

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01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 2: It didn't help either COVID because when COVID came, they

2690
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 2: gave everybody an next year. He was unbelievable. It's a mess.

2691
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 2: It's a freaking mess, and it's their fault. Blame them.

2692
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 2: It's that playing gate. Yes, blame them, Blame blame I.

2693
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 2: Blame on his Spaniard because he wants Belichick fired. I

2694
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 2: can't wait for tonight. I want to hear him tonight.

2695
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 3: Trust me, it's never ending with him, It never is.

2696
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: I'll be listening. God bless you, Chris playing safe, Drive Home,

2697
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 2: will stay with stay with us on Fox

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Speaker 3: Right here, baby,