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Speaker 2: Hello, no, welcome to me, naughty but nice. Sha'm your host,

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Speaker 2: drop shooter, and it is Wednesday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Donny Mitcham joins us, Hey, Donnie, are you there?

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Speaker 3: The level level level Hello? I got a practice being

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Speaker 3: what uptight today? I got a practice being you know,

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Speaker 3: a little high brow today. Since it's our girl, mega

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Speaker 2: Yesterday she released her entire series. I think it's eight

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Speaker 2: episodes in all. I watched all of them, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to get it's today. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 2: It is t time. So first of all, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about Megan's critical response. So the critics have nice seen this.

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Speaker 2: Netflix did not send out screeners, which is very telling.

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Speaker 2: The screen is an advanced copy and often the press

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Speaker 2: get them early and they can write their reviews, but

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Speaker 2: embarger them to drop the day the show drops. That

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Speaker 2: didn't happen. So I think this sort of made critics

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Speaker 2: a little bit prickly. Am I allowed to say that

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Speaker 2: that they had to watch all eight episodes in a

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Speaker 2: day and it's a lot. It's a lot to watch.

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Speaker 2: I did it. One critic is saying, gets pointless. Another

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Speaker 2: saying gets joyless, and maybe the harshest is saying it

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Speaker 2: is an exercise in narcissism. Let me explain eight episodes

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Speaker 2: series produced by Megan and Harry their Archerworld Productions. It

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Speaker 2: features the Duchess as she whips up homemade treats and

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Speaker 2: to her garden in Montecito, California. The Guardian, which is

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Speaker 2: a very fancy British paper, said, I hope this is

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Speaker 2: the last TV show they do. They've not been that successful,

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Speaker 2: darning I wanted this one to be really fun. I

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Speaker 2: which is a huge outlet in Britain a little softer

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Speaker 2: but not positive, saying they're trying to reimagine the genre

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Speaker 2: of the lifestyle programming but they failed. It's pretty much

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Speaker 2: like every other lifestyle type of show out there. Celebrity friends,

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Speaker 2: lots of brunches, countless plugs for businesses. The Independent Reporter

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Speaker 2: in London only gave it one star, saying, oh, it

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Speaker 2: was exhausting. However, let me give it a robshooter review

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Speaker 2: and I've been generous. I hope I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a bit boring, Donnie, and I lost my focus. It

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Speaker 2: lost my attention within. I gotta admit the first twenty

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Speaker 2: want to see people's homes. I want to see all

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Speaker 2: the details. I wasn't into it, Donnie, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: Yes, and now, look, this was the show awful?

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Speaker 2: No, it was.

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Speaker 1: Or Meghan, if you're going to do a show, you already,

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Speaker 1: people already are losing faith in you.

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Speaker 3: Go out there.

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Speaker 1: And swing for the dishes. Sweetie, walk in there, camp Camp.

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Speaker 1: I want to see your closet. You come out in

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Speaker 1: the craziest oppasion to go. Me and Harry have done

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Speaker 1: it right there four times. We actually did it this morning,

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Speaker 1: right there, right before we started filming. That's what it's like, Meghan.

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Speaker 1: You have nothing left to loose. You're still stuck on this.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be a royal, you don't want

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Speaker 3: Of a royal, which is a weird space you're in,

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Speaker 3: so it's space you're human, act human, Megan. This is so.

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Speaker 2: Bad and we know from all the reality shows that

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Speaker 2: what you are competing with here, Meghan, So I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't really know what it was. It wasn't quite

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Speaker 2: I love all that stuff. I wish Gwenneth did one.

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Speaker 2: I'd laugh out lad. That's what the problem is, Donnie. Humorous.

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Speaker 2: There was no fun to it. Even when Meghan insisted

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Speaker 2: didn't believe it. It felt very cautious, very very careful.

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Speaker 2: It fell to almost as if this was designed by

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Speaker 2: we know, Donnie, the most authentic version of yourself is

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Speaker 2: always the best version you. When you try to be fancy,

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Speaker 2: when you try to be quality, Donnie doesn't work when

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Speaker 2: you're trashy and low rent and dirty, donnay, that's when

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Speaker 2: we love you.

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Speaker 1: It's I can't but all right, so let's not forget.

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Speaker 1: So Meghan and Harry signed this Netflix deal a long

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Speaker 1: time a it was years ago, and Netflix is like

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Speaker 1: you always something, What do you got, sweetie?

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Speaker 3: Where can you turn out something?

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Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I want to do this, this,

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Speaker 3: And now they didn't send.

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Speaker 1: Out the screeners on purpose. You also didn't help yourself

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Speaker 1: because the critics are upset and they're annoyed that they

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Speaker 2: This wasn't handled that well with which brings us to

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Speaker 2: our whole question of the day. Megan Marcus Cooking show

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Speaker 2: is getting roasted boom boom by the critics. Some are

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Speaker 2: calling get pointless, joyless? Are they being too harsh? You've

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Speaker 2: seen some of it, maybe you've watched a few clips

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Speaker 2: of it. It's not awful, Donny. I'm so glad you

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Speaker 2: pointed at that. It's not embarrassing. If it was embarrassing,

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Speaker 2: it'd be great, it'd be delicious TV it'd be like

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Speaker 2: a Wendy william The shirt, which is so outrageous. Remember

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Speaker 2: when Wendy was so sloppy and messy. Oh, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: wait to watch This isn't polished enough to be or

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Speaker 2: stools for me. But what do you think on the

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Speaker 2: critics being too harsh? Heker votes on our Twitter page

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Speaker 2: and Mishua to check back time out Rahwa to hear

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Speaker 2: your results. We have more Megan news, Donnie. What else

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Speaker 2: have we found out from this show?

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the guests who was on the show

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Speaker 1: and Mindy were friends. I didn't buy that they sit

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Speaker 3: They do all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently people are personally offended that they didn't receive

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Speaker 1: the same jar of jam didn't get Mindy Kaylink says

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Speaker 1: she received. So apparently Mindy Kelling. They're talking about this gem,

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Speaker 1: this homemade preserves jar and Mindy received it, and some

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Speaker 3: I thought I supposed, but you left me out. I

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Speaker 3: want this terrible jam. I don't care if it's good

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Speaker 1: And it's just people are sources are saying some people

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Speaker 2: People the people. Although, Donnie, if you if you launched

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Speaker 2: Mark Lupo and Corey and Garrett are not me, I

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Speaker 2: would notice that. And so I do think, where did

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Speaker 2: Meghan come up with this list? And in true Megan

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Speaker 2: Fish fashion, she didn't come up with it. She always

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Speaker 2: don't know if Megan finds trouble or if trouble finds her,

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Speaker 2: but she's always in it. Donnie, she's a loof.

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Speaker 3: I think that that is Meghan. Hello, level, we know you. Listen,

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Speaker 3: you're a loof, sweetie. This is what it is.

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Speaker 1: You just you aren't thinking all the details through. And

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Speaker 1: that's what let's also not forget. She did change the

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Speaker 1: name of the company the very last minute to strapped

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Speaker 1: new labels on all these jams and then ship them

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Speaker 3: Blame the post Office, Meghan.

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Speaker 2: Meghan, that's very clever. Lane, Oh, Darli, that's so. This

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Speaker 2: is how how shifty, how enterprising, how shady you are?

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Speaker 2: You know how your bottom dare? I say? Okay, moving

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Speaker 2: along more Meghan news and Meghan appears to shade the

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Speaker 2: Royals in her new show. So it's an eight part series.

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Speaker 2: Royal Watches are pointing out that Meghan famously put her

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Speaker 2: coming out with your own show, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Like it or not. Forget what the critics say. It's

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Speaker 2: I hope this is a new chapter. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I do everything this woman is doing is driving me crazy.

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Speaker 1: I want to love her so much. I'm like, Meghan, babe,

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Speaker 3: Many things going on, and it just leading it to

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Speaker 3: the next story. Apparently she doesn't go by marcle anymore,

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Speaker 1: Does not go by Mega Mark explained. So Mindy Kaling

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Speaker 1: Meghan Marko Marko Mark and mark Markle Sparkle, which is

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Speaker 1: what the company should have been called. And Meghan, now

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Speaker 1: this is the messiness that I would have wanted the

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Speaker 3: I'm a Sussex. Just so you know, I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Sussex and that is perfect because that's throwing shade at everybody,

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Speaker 1: because you know everybody at the Palace.

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Speaker 2: Sussex to correct one of your best friends. Though on

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Speaker 2: stop filming for a second, mindy, my name is Megan Sussex,

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Speaker 2: which does sound very odd. But however, if that's what

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Speaker 2: you want me to call you, I'll call you whatever

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Speaker 2: you want. So I say, all terrific, thank you. We

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Speaker 2: would have carried on filming and I would have said

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Speaker 2: Meghan Sussex. But it was very important to her. Remember

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Speaker 2: she gets edit approval over this show, and so it's

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Speaker 2: very important for Meghan to correct her because I think

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Speaker 2: she wants to correct the world. I think today Meghan

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Speaker 2: Markel wants to be Meghan Sussex, which is tricky because

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Speaker 2: she did step away from this family, so why would

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Speaker 2: she take on this name. It's complicated too, because sometimes

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Speaker 2: she wants to be called Meghan. Sometimes she wants to

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Speaker 2: be called the Duchess. And so you've got to figure

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Speaker 2: That stuff doesn't matter. You've got so much going on,

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Speaker 3: These influencers. There's a lot of influencers out there, you

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are moms out there, working moms who are

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Speaker 3: Honest, they work harder than you do. Sweelie what you say.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's pussing about this so okay cooking show with Megan life,

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Speaker 2: She didn't film it at home. They rented a house

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Speaker 3: Cracks me up. Why is there an eighty plus person cruiser.

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Speaker 2: You can't fit eighty into any kitchen, including a rental.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the naughty but nice umber about her

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Speaker 2: with IDIO friend Donny Meacham. Hey, Donnie, let's get to

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Speaker 2: the polls. Our only story today that is not about

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Speaker 2: My question was quite simple, Should Demi have one? Let's

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Speaker 2: to my brother to hear your results. Hey, Donnie, let's

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Speaker 2: bey my favorite part of the show. We finally found

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Speaker 2: one nice thing, docuse, we've been very critical and nicest

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Speaker 3: All right, So a lot of people roast in the show.

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Speaker 1: Two people really liked the show, and that was Little

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Speaker 1: Archie Can Little Lilla bet who Little Bed could have

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Speaker 1: It's a handwritten note from Archie and Lilla Beet, who

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Speaker 2: It was just the greatest moment on the show. Megan, Megan,

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Speaker 2: Meghan let's end with a moment of rub. You get

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Speaker 2: a rubb. Your one decision away from a completely different life.

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Speaker 2: So every choice you make shapes your future. One decision,

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Speaker 2: Your future is in your hands. It doesn't just happen.

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Speaker 2: It is created, and it's created by one person. You.

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Speaker 2: You are one decision, Donnie away from a completely different life.

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Speaker 3: Hey, choose your an adventure.

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Speaker 2: Choose it, Donnie, choose it. Hey, that is it for today.

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