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Speaker 1: All right, how you doing? Everyone? Welcome once again to

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff live here on Giants dot Com. The number,

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Speaker 1: as always, the call is to oh one five one three.

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Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg along with my buddy today Lance Meadow.

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Speaker 1: And what's there to say? It was a dark, dark

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Speaker 1: Monday night down in Atlanta. I mean, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is, and it's and it's not good right now.

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Speaker 1: As Bill Porcels always told us, you are what your

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Speaker 1: record says you are. You are one in six. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if somebody would tell me that Odell Beckham Junior would

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Speaker 1: you would score a grand total of you could knock

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Speaker 1: me over with a feather. I just you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just they can't put the ball in the hands. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the name of the game, Russ. This

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Speaker 1: is a team that's two for eight in the red

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Speaker 1: zone in the last two games combined. And I know

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Speaker 1: we're here to focus on what happened last night, but

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Speaker 1: I think the trends that you're seeing Philadelphia, they were

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Speaker 1: over three in the red zone. They outgained Philadelphia in

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Speaker 1: total yardage Russ. But what happened last night? They outgained

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Speaker 1: it Lant in total yards. Last two games the better

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Speaker 1: Russ if it doesn't equate two points. This was in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta defense that on paper, struggled across the board, including

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, by the way, where the Falcons

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Speaker 1: had given up twenty one touchdowns and twenty seven opportunities.

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Speaker 1: And during Week seven this was a golden opportunity for

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Speaker 1: the Giants to not necessarily right the ship for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, but just proved to themselves that hey,

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Speaker 1: we can move the football, we can also punch it in.

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Speaker 1: So why is this team struggling to punch it in? Well, Russ,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a variety of reason, most notably the

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Speaker 1: inability to run the football consistently, in addition to miscuse

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Speaker 1: giving up you know, you tack on all of those factors.

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Speaker 1: That's a big reason why over four hundred total yards

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Speaker 1: is not equating to thirty points. And when you hold

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons to twenty three points. An offense that

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Speaker 1: You know, you're knocking on the door, you're within striking distance.

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Speaker 1: But when the offense has to trade field goals for touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win that way. You know what? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You and I discussed it before we got on the air.

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Speaker 1: Damning statistic to me, two tells you, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: there's if there's no ifs ends or butts about that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, listening to Bob Popa and Call Banks

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Speaker 1: much that say, coin Barkley leads the league in rushes

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Speaker 1: for negative yards. I mean, you know, we're all concerned

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Speaker 1: they're try I think were a lot of people, including myself,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna include you in because I don't

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Speaker 1: but at this point it appears that they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: I mean that clearly to me, if you connect the dots, Russ,

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Speaker 1: this year, at least in the immediacy though, Russ, I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to note Eli Apple was one of

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Speaker 1: a lot of think right in a day in terms

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Speaker 1: of who the Giants are gonna have to turn to

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Speaker 1: now moving forward. They brought up Grant Haley for the

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Speaker 1: Mike Jordan and Cameron Moore, who were claimed off of

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Speaker 1: You figure their roles will continue to increase given the

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of new faces to your point,

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Speaker 1: All of these things gonna have to be worked out

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Speaker 1: relatively quickly. And you know, to your point, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not official, but all signs of point to Eli

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Speaker 1: Eli to me, you know, has been terrific in the

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Speaker 1: situation also for Dave Gettlman. Uh. You know, Dave doesn't

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Speaker 1: Dave Getlman is not that kind of guy. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: I mean Eli Apple has you know, played turn things around, happened,

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Speaker 1: That's the move again, Cola, at the beginning of a

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Speaker 1: in the NFL there's so much parity russ where things

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Speaker 1: Gettlman operates under common sense. Dave Gettlman also doesn't have

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Speaker 1: any ties to anyone on this roster RUSS other than

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Speaker 1: everybody else you know Jerry Reese had brought in. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Eric Flowers, Dave Gentleman didn't draft Elie Apple. He certainly

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Speaker 1: because I want to have the resources to now bringing

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Speaker 1: and also what James Betcher wants to see perhaps within

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Speaker 1: and we're not invested in any of those draft picks too,

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Speaker 1: So whenever you have changed at the top, it's not

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Speaker 1: God bless you know. If you're the Raiders, you say,

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Speaker 1: That will be content. Christmas, Hanukah and Halloween, all every holiday,

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Speaker 1: name it. Yeah, you're not complaining about that, exactly exactly,

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Speaker 1: our friend Bob. Hello, Bob, you're on with Russell Lance.

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Speaker 1: Hello Russ and Lance, How you guys? And how are

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Speaker 1: you doing? I just I don't know. I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: of beside myself here. I've been a season ticket holder

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three. From nineteen seventy three to ninety one,

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Speaker 1: those teams were atrocious. It never bothered me because there

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Speaker 1: was always hope. Okay, we got to climb the mountain

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Speaker 1: and be like, you know, reach Pittsburgh, Dallas, Oakland, those teams,

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Speaker 1: and now in this league of mediocrity, there is no

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Speaker 1: right now. First of all, back in nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 1: it's like I got five more home games at this

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Speaker 1: crap right now, all I'm gonna be doing is rooting

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Speaker 1: for them to lose for the draft pick that I got.

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Speaker 1: The only guy who's gonna be on this team next

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Speaker 1: Blondie there. I bought into his garbage and I and

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Speaker 1: I bought a jersey when he signed his contract, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassed that I did that, as he got

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Speaker 1: the money. We've seen the scene, sir, Bob. Hold on

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Speaker 1: a second. I can hear the frustration in your voice.

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Speaker 1: I I can empathize with you. I understand. Okay, everything

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Speaker 1: week before last Night's lost the quote the season, this

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Speaker 1: season is over. He uh said that the Giants need

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Speaker 1: rebuilding and it's time to evaluate personnel for next year.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, last year was this is a bad team.

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Speaker 1: I think now in my opinion, the New York franchise,

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giant franchise is the worst than the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Second quick comment I have is about the concept of

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Speaker 1: self scouting. Every year we every year we hear on

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Speaker 1: the show h during the bye week a focus on

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Speaker 1: self scouting. In my opinion, it's just negligent of the

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Speaker 1: team not to be self scouting after week one, after

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Speaker 1: week too, after week four, after week six, that's that

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Speaker 1: was okay, last you finish. That's what I was gonna ask.

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Speaker 1: Why do you say they're not doing that? Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a fact. It's just the fact that we haven't heard

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Speaker 1: on this show those words use once this season. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're doing it, but you guys have well Scott, Scott

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Speaker 1: hold on, do you think Pat Shermer and Dave Ghettle

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Speaker 1: may call us into the office after every show and

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Speaker 1: be like, guys, listen, this is what we want you

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Speaker 1: to tell the fans. This is what we told them

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Speaker 1: in the meeting room. Do you do you really truthfully

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Speaker 1: think that that happens. I mean, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: most ridiculous statements that I heard that Because we're not

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Speaker 1: telling you that, and you want to hear that, and

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Speaker 1: you're desperately dying to hear that that that means it's

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Speaker 1: not happening. Come on, great question? How many? How many

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame have losing records? What's

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Speaker 1: your point? I'm not making it important. I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: a question. I don't know. I don't know off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head. I don't loosely tell us. What

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Speaker 1: do you want to say that Eli Man is not

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famers? That where we're getting with this, Well,

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is the three games away from

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Speaker 1: having a losing record. Okay, So what's the So what's

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Speaker 1: the point? Alright, Scott, every mind's on this program. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's go to But you know what, folks, I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it. I gotta gotta call before God. But

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Speaker 1: God bless you were. We opened up the phone lines

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Speaker 1: you get a call before we can't. I'm sorry. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to give everybody a half hour to talk. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. Otherwise, we're gonna have two callers

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Speaker 1: for the show. Okay, self, Scouting, What the hell does

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Speaker 1: do you think Dave Gettleman and Pat Sherman are doing?

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Speaker 1: I mean they bring in people. People are being brought

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Speaker 1: in every week. There's something like I said to like

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty six new faces from last year. What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? If you want to criticize the one

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Speaker 1: in six? God bless, you're totally entitled to and you

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Speaker 1: know what Sherman and Gettleman will tell you, you're entitled

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Speaker 1: to it. But but you don't think that they're trying

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Speaker 1: to fix something or you know what. Let me call

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Speaker 1: in Lance and let me call in Ross and John

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Speaker 1: and Paul. You know what do you guys think? I mean,

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Speaker 1: are we sell scouting enough? My goodness. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: our friend in Delaware, Coach Marv Hey, coach are on

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Speaker 1: with Russ and Lander? That how you doing, buddy? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Rust and Land? Well, we're doing it's

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Speaker 1: doing better than some today. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a tough day. I think I call

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Speaker 1: it last week. I think Land and Jeff was on

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Speaker 1: the show last week when I called, I think you

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Speaker 1: call you what called me as well? But go ahead.

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Speaker 1: We always liked her well. I did mention to them

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Speaker 1: that because they're making the statements about Atlanta being weak

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Speaker 1: in a lot of parts that they did, which they

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Speaker 1: are true stack But my fear was what's happening right now?

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Speaker 1: I said it, if they'd lose to Atlanta, the fans

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Speaker 1: are gonna lose their minds, and they have lost their minds.

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Speaker 1: And just with the fantom though I understand being hard

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Speaker 1: core fan, I'm I'm a I'm a hardcore fan foot

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Speaker 1: things in perspective. We're talking football, We're not talking life,

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Speaker 1: and there in sports is always next years said building things.

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Speaker 1: So everybody needs to really calm down. Um. The other

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Speaker 1: statement I had was I was talking earlier about you

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Speaker 1: mentioning about the two point conversion, the first one they

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Speaker 1: went for. Um, you know some people are upset about that.

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Speaker 1: I was upset when I first saw it. I didn't

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Speaker 1: understand it. I wouldn't have said I didn't understand it,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't get it. It was a bad decision.

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Speaker 1: But it was a good call. Um, you should have

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Speaker 1: we should have caught the two point conversion that we

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have no comfort. Yeah, Beckham dropped the pass. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what? You know what? Coach, No, you make

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Speaker 1: a good point. I just want to interject something here.

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Speaker 1: Then then continue, And you know this being a coach,

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Speaker 1: If the play works ninety nine out of a hundred,

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Speaker 1: it's called a good call, and if the play doesn't

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Speaker 1: work ninety nine out of a hundred, it's called a

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Speaker 1: bad call. And I'll give you a case in point.

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, if that field goal kicker, what's the name, Giorgio?

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Speaker 1: If the Vecchio misses that field goal, they're roasting dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn for a moronical given eli in the Giant's possession

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Speaker 1: at roughly midfield. Am I correct? You're correct because I

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Speaker 1: sat here and said the same, so did I. I said,

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Speaker 1: if he misses this, the Giants have a shot at them,

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Speaker 1: and then I started playing back to two point conversion, saying,

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Speaker 1: but if he misses, still got the two point? Right,

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Speaker 1: You are right correct. In every game you play him,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be calls that are questionable because you're not

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Speaker 1: in the mind of the person that's making the calls. One,

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Speaker 1: sometimes guys are trying to set up certain plays, so

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Speaker 1: they have to call certain places to set those plays up.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes fans don't understand the call at the time. Um,

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Speaker 1: but kicking that field goal that you're right, they would

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Speaker 1: have crucify him nan of down And you know what, coach,

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Speaker 1: the flip side of that is, let's let's just say this.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Pat Shermer stood up there, gave his

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Speaker 1: reasoning for it, and I did the same thing you did.

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Speaker 1: I did the same exact thing you did. I said

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Speaker 1: to us, and Lance was saying the same thing. We

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Speaker 1: you know, we all scratched our heads when he's going

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Speaker 1: for the two point conversion. But you know what if

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Speaker 1: he makes the two point conversion and then they score

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Speaker 1: another touchdown and then they win the game by one,

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Speaker 1: we're all talking about the Cohonians and that's the way

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Speaker 1: it works well. And the Eagles and coach Marber willletch

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Speaker 1: you can take you a few things I just want

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Speaker 1: to bring up related to that. The Eagles a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago played the Vikings at home and Doug Peterson's

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Speaker 1: team was down twenty to six, just like the Giants.

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Speaker 1: They scored a touchdown, they made it twenty to twelve,

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Speaker 1: they went for two, they converted, it became twenty to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: They ultimately lost the game. But what Pat Yourwor was

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Speaker 1: explaining is it's the analytics and how it's impacted the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and they're looking at the percentages of converting on the

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Speaker 1: two point conversion at least one out of two opportunities

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the extra point. Listen, personally, I'm not

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Speaker 1: crazy about analytics. I don't love chasing points earlier than

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Speaker 1: needs to be. I understand though Pat Shermer's logic, however,

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Speaker 1: related to this, Russ I didn't love. Tennessee played the

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Speaker 1: Chargers in London on Sunday and Mike Vrabel decided to

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Speaker 1: go for the win at the end of regulation. I

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Speaker 1: personally would have played for the tie because to me,

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Speaker 1: a tie is better than a loss. A tie is

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Speaker 1: half a win or half a loss. I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: that in the standings than just take the flat out loss.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, but if you win to get

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Speaker 1: the excuse, coach, let me just put this in. It

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Speaker 1: is now official, folks. Giants in New Orleans Saints have

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Speaker 1: completed the trade, sending Eli Apple, the team's top selection

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand and sixteen draft, to the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. They will get in the In return, the

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Speaker 1: Giants will uh a two thousand and nineteen fourth round

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Speaker 1: draft pick and a seventh round draft pick in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty that of us appending completion of an

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Speaker 1: Eli Apple physical. So we wish Eli well. I like Eli.

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Speaker 1: He was also one of my go to guys. You've

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Speaker 1: lost two of your guys. It's dangerous if they take part.

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Speaker 1: But but that's yeah, don't say that. Yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be next. You're gonna get you and coach more that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You could have met the same alright, Coach anything else,

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Speaker 1: buddy before I let you go? No, well, let me.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make another statement real quick. Um um.

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Speaker 1: But what Lance was just saying about coaching Sometimes, I

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Speaker 1: don't you know, I play to extend games. If a

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Speaker 1: TI is going to extend the game, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: score to win, but I'm also trying to protect them

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Speaker 1: that game to give me even more chances of winning

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Speaker 1: in my coaching. But also when they were in the

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Speaker 1: red zone, I'm gonna get credit to UH coach Sherman

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Speaker 1: because even though I disagree with this decision, I thought

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Speaker 1: was a bad decision. That it was a good call

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Speaker 1: to play call was good, but the decision I didn't

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Speaker 1: like that. He addressed with it immediately soon as he

589
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Speaker 1: went into the first conference he went in. He stood

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Speaker 1: up there, he said, what he has to say about

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Speaker 1: the two boards conversion. I'm not a big fan of

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Speaker 1: analytics myself. I look at situational footballs rather than analysts.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, you know what coach I think, And

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Speaker 1: as always, coach, thanks for the call. I think what

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Speaker 1: he's trying to do. Also, Pat Sherman, without you know,

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Speaker 1: just flat out coming out and saying it, I think

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Speaker 1: he's trying to tell his guys, listen, we won in

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Speaker 1: five at the time, I'm trying to say, guys, I

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Speaker 1: got confidence in you, go make a play while everybody

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Speaker 1: is throwing garbage at you and saying this, that and

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Speaker 1: the other thing. I'm trying to say, go make a play.

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Speaker 1: And you know what uh lands. Both Sterling Shepard and

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Speaker 1: O'Dell when they were asked about it, both of them

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Speaker 1: were emphatic, Oh no, no, I want to go for that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be aggressive, you know, and I like

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Speaker 1: that that they were very positive on that. So well,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard an offensive player wanting to come off

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Speaker 1: the field. You're basically you're telling your offense stay on

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Speaker 1: the field for an extra play or watch up the

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Speaker 1: sideline has Ldric Rosa's attempts at extra points, So I

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Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that an offensive player is

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Speaker 1: going to not be enthusiastic about that chance. All right,

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Speaker 1: two oh one five one three the number. Again, We've

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Speaker 1: got to remind you here that on the course Light

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Speaker 1: Let's go to uh Canton, New York and speak with

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Speaker 1: our friend Dylan. Hello, Dylan, you're on with Russ and

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Speaker 1: Lance today. Hey, good afternoon guys. Hey, Well, obviously Eli

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Speaker 1: is a big name today in New York. Um. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Eli Manning first. Overall, I think

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Speaker 1: he had a good game last night, throwing for three

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Speaker 1: or to ninety nine yards. He had no interception, no fumbles,

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Speaker 1: and he actually showed some of us fans at least.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not the one who wants, you know,

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterback and all that stuff. But he showed the

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Speaker 1: people that asked for him to be mobile that one

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Speaker 1: seven or eight yard run. I thought that was pretty

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Speaker 1: good by Eli. Um. Well, I mean, I I think

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Speaker 1: obviously they were misqes on offense with certain things and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, but um, overall, I think Eli played

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Speaker 1: well enough. And uh, you know, it comes down to

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Speaker 1: execution at the end of the day and self discipline. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna switch over to Eli Apple. Um. You know,

636
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: obviously he's had his struggles. I think he played better

637
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: this year than um his years prior, and he was

638
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: off to a really good start, I thought, Um, and

639
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: he looked, you know, he struggled a little bit last night.

640
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: But um, obviously with Eli Apple gone and I called

641
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: last week and spoke about Dante Dion being gone to

642
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: and there's there's two guys gone, you know, within a

643
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: week at least, and it's just it's a it's for me,

644
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: it's a growing concern at corner because I mean, you know,

645
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: you were already kind of depleted. We don't have much

646
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: in depth as it is. Um, you know what, Dylan,

647
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say something. And because of what

648
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: has gone on the past year. Listen, last year wasn't

649
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: a great Um, it wasn't a great year for the defense. Okay,

650
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: and this year, uh, they started out really good and

651
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: they've had their moments. You know, well, well Atlanta only

652
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: gave up, well only got twenty three last night. This

653
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: Giant defense is kind of you know that they say, ben,

654
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: but don't break, So they bend, but then they break

655
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: at the wrong time. They they were playing, They play

656
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: well to a point and then they give up. Chunk play, explosive, big, big,

657
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: big explosive, a big explosive plays with which bite you

658
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: on the rare end. But I was looking back before

659
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: last season, what was so what was least than in

660
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen? Yeah, uh no, two thousand and sixteen

661
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: is when they were eleven and five. So but you

662
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: looked at that season, and then you looked at some

663
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: of the games, and then you looked at you know,

664
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: that record, and you looked at how they won games,

665
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: and and some of the teams that they beat. You know,

666
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: maybe that eleven and five wasn't you know the record,

667
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: as Parcels would say, you are what your record says

668
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: you are. But then you look closely at it and

669
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the defense wasn't as good as we thought

670
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: it was. Then well, and there were a lot of

671
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: close games that season. I mean, there were a lot

672
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: of games that could have easily went the out passed way.

673
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: But that's that's what they closed out the Bengals game

674
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football that season because Rashad Jennings ran

675
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: through the middle and was able to run out the clock.

676
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: The Eagles were Carson Wentz touchdown away in the end

677
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: zone to Jordan Matthews. The ball happened to be deflected.

678
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I could revisit that season, I'm sure no,

679
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean half of these games they start to blur

680
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: the other half of the games, at least for me

681
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: back and looked at it right, there was a lot

682
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: of interesting, you know, close games. I've said multiple times,

683
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: and not to take anything away from that eleven win team,

684
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: and the record is what it is, and nobody's gonna

685
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: take away the playoff appearance. I just didn't feel like

686
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: that was a dominant eleven win team where you felt

687
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: they could go up against anybody and you knew what

688
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: you were going to get out of them. It was

689
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: a team that executed, came up with big plays when

690
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: they needed to, and found themselves in a position to

691
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But then when those favorable bounces don't

692
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: come your way, the key players don't come your way,

693
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: you see the true colors. Now, getting back to your point,

694
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: Dylan related to what Russ was bringing up from a

695
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: defensive standpoint, Yeah, I understand your concerns about the secretary

696
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: because you look at the roster right now, you have

697
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of players that haven't had a great deal

698
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: of reps on the field. Grant Haley's gonna be called upon,

699
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier at Tonio Hamilton's and Mike Jordan

700
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: who were late claim waivers in terms of once they

701
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: finalized the fifty three man roster, and then B. W.

702
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: Webb is gonna take on even more of a role,

703
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: so you know it's gonna really be a team effort.

704
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, I figure is probably gonna get a lot

705
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: more time at the slot. We saw he had a

706
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: pass interference call yesterday against Julio Jones which set up

707
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: a field goal. But that was a good pass interference.

708
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: It was that the Thomas the ball. Remember, Russ was

709
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: under throne and Michael Thomas was not looking back at

710
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: the ball, So you could argue, if he's looking at

711
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: the ball, he's got an opportunity to intercept that. So

712
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: I think he could debate whether or not that was

713
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: I think had a touchdown on that play, unless I'm

714
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: thinking of it. I think you may be thinking of

715
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: differ place. Because this one was definitely under throne. There

716
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: was no way Jones is gonna get a touchdown. So

717
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Thomas was looking at Jones as opposed to the ball,

718
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: so that all of a sudden sets up a field goal.

719
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: Right at the end of the first half, Eli Apple

720
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: has the defensive holding call wipes out a Mario Edward.

721
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: That was a killer sack which would have forced the

722
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Falcons to punt deep in their own territory, change old position.

723
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: So that was another killer So these mental mistakes are

724
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: coming to bite the team on defense. But you hit

725
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: it right in the nose, Russ. In terms of the

726
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: explosive place, it was a zero zero game. The Giants

727
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: were within striking distance. Then Austin Hooper hatches the thirty

728
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: six yard pass Marvin Hall the very next play forty

729
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown. And then here's another common theme I'm seeing.

730
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Last night's game reminded me of the Saints game. What

731
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: did the Giants do against Drew Brees? They kept him

732
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: out of the red zone? Right, Drew Brees over four

733
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: in the first half game. Okay, your offense is not

734
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: clicking and doing the heavy lifting, but you know what

735
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: the defense is doing enough last night felt that way.

736
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: And then what happened second half Tevin Coleman thirty yard

737
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: touchdown run. You felt, if you're Atlanta, that was the

738
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: icing on the cake, and it really turned out to

739
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: be that. What happened in the Saints game russ Alvin

740
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: Kamara the long rushing score in the second half. There,

741
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're getting worn down. I don't

742
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: want to necessarily say that's the truth, because I didn't

743
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: feel like Atlanta dominated time of possession. But they're just

744
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: of breaking at the worst possible moment. I think it's

745
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: more breaking at the worst possible moment than being worn down,

746
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: because they just there comes the time when you need

747
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: to make a big play and you don't. They had

748
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, um, I think it might have been in

749
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: the first quarter they had them on their own one

750
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: yard line. The next thing you hear, it's a completion.

751
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Now to the fifteen on first down or thirteen whatever.

752
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: They did a great job flipping the field, Atlanta. Yeah,

753
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: a terrific job I'll give I'll give you another example.

754
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Remember it was the Saints game. When all of a sudden,

755
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: there's the muff kickoff Brandon t at Brandon Tate and

756
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the head again. They got they got a shot. The

757
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Giants have a shot to steal this game, to be

758
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: in the game. And what happens on first down a

759
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: twenty yard completion. So you know, the defense, while it

760
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: makes some plays, it just doesn't make that big play

761
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: when they have to have it, when when it must

762
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: be gotten. That's the problem. One other side note, before

763
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: we get back to the phone calls, you brought up

764
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: special teams, and you know, if we want to take

765
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: some positives out of last night's performance, this was to

766
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: me the first time this year Russ where I don't

767
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: think special teams hurt the team. I actually think special

768
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: teams helped the team. Unfortunately, the offense of the defense

769
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: couldn't take advantage Quadre Henderson, who was just added to

770
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: the roster. I thought provided a nice spark in terms

771
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: of the return game had one return brought him out

772
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: to near midfield. Just could not take advantage of field position.

773
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: But you really can't point the special teams coming back

774
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: to bite the Giants lesson. I thought that unit overall

775
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: really recovered nicely. All right, back to the phone lines,

776
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: we go. Who's that is? Dylan Stiff? Oh? Dylan? So finish,

777
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: finished up Dylan and then we'll go. I just had

778
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: one quick question. Um. I mean, obviously we I've heard

779
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: like Patrick Peterson, you know he wants out of Arizona,

780
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: but head Coacht Wilkes says that he's he's not going awhere.

781
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: But with a deadline coming often with Betcher's familiarity with

782
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Arizona and bringing in guys like Kareem Martin and Josh Morrow,

783
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: do you think that could be a possibility, especially after

784
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: um letting letting go of Eli Apple. You know what,

785
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know as as Lands so at least said

786
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: earlier they're not bringing in Russe and Lands to sit

787
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: down and discuss what they might do. Well, But I

788
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: mean what you say makes sense, and I Actually I

789
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: wrote that exact reaction. When I saw that story on Twitter,

790
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I said, listen, people are gonna now connect the dots.

791
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: He has ties to James Betcher. But I think, realistically, Dylan,

792
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: what you have to take the consideration. Patrick Peterson and

793
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: I looked this up and I'll rehash it here with

794
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: you on the air. He signed the seven year, eighty

795
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: three million dollar contract the two thousand fourteen, so he

796
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: has the remainder of this year, two thousand nineteen and

797
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty where he's due to make anywhere between

798
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve million dollars. When you make a trade

799
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: for somebody like that, you've got to make sure you've

800
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: got the cap flexibility to absorb the contract. And also

801
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: you have to think about you may want to give

802
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Landon Collins a new contract. You may want to take

803
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: care of a few other guys. I don't know right

804
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: now if the Giants are in that position where they

805
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: want to absorb somebody's contract. I think what Dave Gentleman's

806
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: plan is This just me reading into it is my

807
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: own personal opinion. I think he's looking at the stockpile

808
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: resources through draft picks, bringing players on rookie deals that

809
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: are not going to eat up a lot of cap space.

810
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: He's gone, okay enough, two one three nine four? What

811
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: am I saying? Two oh one nine three nine four

812
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: or five one three is the number. Let's go down

813
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: to Orlando speak with our buddy Jose. What's up? Jose?

814
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: You're wrong with Russell? Lance? Russell and Lance? How are

815
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: you guys doing? How you doing well? I'll tell you

816
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: what I hate to be on your seats right now.

817
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: You guys are getting land based a fine Listen. This

818
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: is not our first rodeo for us to I hear you,

819
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: I hear you. Know I've been listening for a while. Rough.

820
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember when I spoke. We

821
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: spoke about Eric Corey all last sure, sure, yeah, But um,

822
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: I always, for some reason, I always get the call

823
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: right behind coach Marvin. But some of the things I

824
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: want to say, and I'll try to be brief because

825
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of calls. Way to

826
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: scream at you. But what I wanted to say was

827
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: I actually agree with coach Hermer's call. I think players

828
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: like an aggressive coach. I mean it has stagging restrain,

829
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: and I know some people say, oh, that was a

830
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: bad call. If Odel would have made the catch, people

831
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: would have been praising him. Um, I think we did

832
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: lose by I mean that kid del Vecchio. He made

833
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: some clutch kicks with the six yarder for a guy

834
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: just to be picked up. You know, you gotta say

835
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: that was clutch. But some of the things I wanted

836
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: to tell you guys, I do agree with some of

837
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: the things. I don't agree with Dylan the last caller

838
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: when he says that everybody keeps screaming about having a

839
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback and you know we shouldn't have one. There's

840
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: a difference between a mobile quarterback and a running quarterback.

841
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: The difference between a mobile quarterback is a quarterback that

842
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: can't escape pressure while still looking down field and makes rows.

843
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: There's a difference between a running back just tucking the

844
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: ball and get a couple of yards and getting closed. Um.

845
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: And that's something that unfortunately, although I love Eli, we

846
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: don't have, you know, and with the offensive line that

847
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: we have, even if you have a mobile quarterback, because

848
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, last, he's still gonna

849
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: get caught. Jose. Let me let me just bring out

850
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: a point I'm gonna make a comparison for you and

851
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: and that what you say is valid. It is a

852
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: fair point, okay, But here's also the difference Eli. See

853
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: he's not gonna say it, but I don't think Eli

854
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: has confidence in the offensive line. Okay, and think about

855
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: go go back, even go back to the game. And

856
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: I've said this once before, and I don't mean to

857
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just giving you a point where to

858
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: show the difference. Remember the game when they won the

859
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: NFC championship, uh in San Francisco. Oh yeah, when he

860
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: was looking out the your hole, I remember, and he

861
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: was getting killed and crushed, but he standing in there.

862
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: Why was he standing in there? Because he had confidence

863
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: in his offensive line. When you don't have confidence that,

864
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, half the time, like last night, he was

865
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: able to look downfield half the time, he's not able

866
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: or he's not looking downfield because he's worried about the

867
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: past rushes that are in his face at the snap

868
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: of the ball. So you know, it's kind of a

869
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: double ledged sword there. Your point is well taken. But

870
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: if you don't have the confidence in the men up front,

871
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: well that results in that problem. Well, but there were

872
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: also plays Jose, keep in mind where and I get

873
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: your point, if you have a mobile quarterback and maybe

874
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: he can extend the play by two or three seconds,

875
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: But on the plays where Eli Manning is getting sacked,

876
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: if you looked at the first half, even if you

877
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: have a mobile quarterback, there's no guarantee he's escaping that

878
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: and giving you an opportunity to extend to play. I

879
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: mean there were times where off the left tackle, off

880
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier, off the edge, Eli one or two steps back,

881
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: he's immediately taken down. So you have a mobile quarterback

882
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: or not. I don't really see much of a difference

883
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: under circumstances like that. You know that last week. I'm

884
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: starting to interrupt you, guys, but this is what I'm

885
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: gonna have to politely disagree with you, Lance when it

886
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: comes to that, when you do have a mobile quarterback,

887
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: you have to understand that you said two to three

888
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: seconds in the NFL, two to three seconds is a

889
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: lot of time. You got to think about this, and right,

890
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: You're right, a mobile quarterback can get sacked. I've seen

891
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: it happen with defensives Key and good defensives Key, and

892
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: on mobile quarterbacks they can't get stopped. But your percentages

893
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: do increase by a little bit when you do have

894
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback that he can step up in the pocket,

895
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: roll to the right or left. Well. But but Eli

896
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: did step up in the pocket yesterday. There were instances

897
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: where he tell you what you're right. He did have

898
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the phenomenal game yesterday. I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't

899
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: go that strong. I don't think it was a phenomenal game.

900
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was okay, all right, but let's call

901
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: the spade of spains. I'll tell you this, Eli, and

902
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm an Eli fan. He's starting to look at the

903
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: pass rush and a thousand Well no, no, that's that's

904
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: That was my whole point to you, Jose. He's he's

905
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: looking at it too much. Why because he doesn't have

906
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: confidence in the offensive line. He's not gonna say that,

907
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: but my eyes and your eyes tell you that. And

908
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: when you when you say about a mobile uh quarterback,

909
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: I think you were on with us last Wednesday when

910
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: I had um, when David Deal was with me. Okay,

911
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: David Deal brought out a point. We we brought out

912
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: two points. Mobile quarterbacks not not obviously this past Sunday,

913
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: the previous Sunday, two Mobile quarterbacks Marcus Mariotta was sacked

914
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: eleven times. The Ravens Deshaun Watson was sacked seven times

915
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: through two interceptions and had twelve hits from those of Mobile.

916
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Then what about hold on, doc? What Dad dealt with

917
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: the Redskins this past Sunday. So there's another example, you know,

918
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: So listen, no one, No, you are right. Hey, I'm

919
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: not saying you guys are wrong, but I'm saying and

920
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: say answer, No, I wasn't on the phone when you

921
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: spoke with David, and I know our time is running.

922
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: But when you guys do bring up ran Riota, gain

923
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: in sack and Smith and all that, and and the

924
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: textis quarterback getting sack Watson. I get that. I understand that.

925
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: But your chances increase increase with the quarterback. Now I know,

926
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to beat that dead horse. Now, another

927
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: thing that you guys talked about that I actually understand

928
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: that you're talking about the defense breaking down and stuff

929
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: like that. I get that part that the defense didn't

930
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: have a play where they actually broke, but you also

931
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: have to understand your offense has to try to sustain

932
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: scores where if a defense hasn't laughed that you're still

933
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: in the game. We can't exchange field goals for touchdowns

934
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: field goals, so we would have had if we would

935
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: have had some touchdowns there that could have sustained a

936
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: break or two with our defense. And you get that

937
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: offense have to have to work with defense. Defense has

938
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: to work with offense. Now that's and I'll leave you guys.

939
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: I'll leave you guys with this. And this is what

940
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk about. I know you guys

941
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: are employed by the New York Giants organization, so it's

942
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: very hard to say somebody like this and be objected

943
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to Eli Manning and I'm an Eli fan.

944
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this if and I'm not playing general

945
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: manage or anything like that. I'm just asking for an opinion. Um,

946
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: if David Gelman had an opportunity where and you're talking

947
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: about cap space for Peterson, where you can trade Eli

948
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: to a team that has a better offensive line, give

949
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: him a chances in his years, and then see if

950
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna either develop a quarterback that we have now

951
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: see what they have, or something that lands setting before that.

952
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: I liked the idea. Maybe perhaps looking at Teddy Bridgewater. Well,

953
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: first of well, first of all, let me make this

954
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: clear because I don't know if a lot of fans

955
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: understand this. Eli Manning has no trade clause in his contract. Okay,

956
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: so whatever dream trade you come up with, it's not

957
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: gentleman's decision to make that go through. Okay. Eli has

958
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: to sign off on a trade if we want to

959
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: go down the hypothetical road. So that's a big stumbling block.

960
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: He has to say, you know what, Dave, I'm okay

961
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: with what you're presenting to me, and I want out.

962
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: If he doesn't want to do that, Jose, you could

963
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: bring me a thousand different trade situations, doesn't really make

964
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: a difference in the end. Okay. Well, I didn't know

965
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: that he had a non trade cause and that that's

966
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of also. You have to it's nobody takes that

967
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: into considerate. You also have to find the team. I mean,

968
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: he's not just going again, we're just talking and throwing

969
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: out hypotheticals, Jose, And as always, thanks for the call,

970
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: but but think about it. Sorry about that, Jose, but

971
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: think about it a second. Then you have to find

972
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: somebody where it's the right team. He's not going to anybody. Well,

973
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: that's why the power of the no trade clauses. Yeah,

974
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: even if he's open to a trade, Russ, You're right,

975
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to go where somewhere that he and

976
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: his family are comfortable. But also somebody who's gonna want

977
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: Eli is. Just to give you an example, would have

978
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: to be some team that was on the verge of

979
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: being a doing something big this year. They lose their

980
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: quarterback and we gotta have some They're in a detrimental

981
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: situation that they're willing also to cough up resources. Let's

982
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: be honest. Anyone who would even entertain the idea of

983
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: acquiring a guy like Eli Manning knows it's a rental situation.

984
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: This is not a guy that you're bringing in to

985
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: build your offense around for five years. Why would you

986
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: give up a valuable resource for that? So you know,

987
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: for people who throw out the idea that the market

988
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: is overwhelming and teams are gonna be knocking down doors,

989
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: I think it's not necessarily looking at the market straight enough.

990
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: That'd be very few teams to begin with that would

991
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: even entertain that idea. And Eli Manning holds the card.

992
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: So you're limited in terms of your options to a

993
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: one nine, three, nine four or five one three of

994
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: the number. Gotta remind you folks again. The Big Blue

995
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,160
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996
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997
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: throughout the season. Let's go down to Virginia and speak

998
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: with Greg. Hey, Greg, you're on what's up Greg? How

999
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? What you got for us? Well, um,

1000
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: a couple of things and I'll get to my main

1001
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: breathing from my call. Um. I gotta say I was

1002
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: really hoping that we were going to be getting Bridgewater

1003
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: and returned. Let me just throw this up there real quick.

1004
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: I know you had a lot of points. First of all,

1005
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is gonna be a free agent after this season,

1006
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: So why would you give You would like to get

1007
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: a sample this year to see if he would actually

1008
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: be something worth going there? But why but why would

1009
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: you give up resources if you could then sign the

1010
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: guy outright after the season, And and here's the thing,

1011
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: he might not be the answer. And if you could

1012
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: find out the second half of the season, Yeah, but

1013
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: then you're giving up draft picks for nothing. Then you're

1014
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: you're renting a guy for like five or six games,

1015
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: But how does that put you in a better position

1016
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: with no? But then you have to sign him though,

1017
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: you then have to give him a long term deal.

1018
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: So you're gonna give up draft picks on top of

1019
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: a large contract or even a manageable contract. Why would

1020
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: you do that? And you're doing it for a maybe, Greg,

1021
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: you know, well that's a we know this year shot, right, Yeah,

1022
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: but that's cock eye business. Now you're gonna trade. You're

1023
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: talking about a situation, Greg, that you're in. You're okay,

1024
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: Well then you guys, okay, you guys disagree, that's fine. Um,

1025
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: so we can move from that. One thing about last

1026
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: night's game that ELI definitely had a better game, But

1027
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things in my opinion that don't

1028
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: necessarily show up um glaring on the stat sheet. Um.

1029
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: It's the things he's not doing that are the reason

1030
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: the li is washed up. UM. On that fourth down pass,

1031
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Beckham's open, he doesn't hit his first read. He goes

1032
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: to the third string double covered tight end. Earlier in

1033
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: the game, he missed Odell in the corner of the

1034
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: end zone. Well, but we went over that. But but

1035
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: see Listen, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not Greg,

1036
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you about hitting Odell Beckham in

1037
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: the flat. But if we're gonna evaluate some of these

1038
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: other plays, you have to take it the consideration that

1039
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Odell's route was disrupted. Okay, there's another side of that

1040
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: play though, did the one in the corner of the Yes,

1041
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. His route was disrupted. Yes,

1042
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: that's the exact play. Referring to Okay, well you're still open.

1043
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: You need to hit him. Greg, You under pressure, that's

1044
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, he wasn't under pressure. But the route, Greg,

1045
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: The route was this, Greg, Greg, the route was disrupted.

1046
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Eli is throwing to his spot. It's all about timing

1047
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You don't throw to a player and

1048
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: you wait for him to get open. You throw to

1049
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: a spot expecting the player to get there. If his

1050
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: route is disrupted, then the timing is off. And yes,

1051
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: the throw is going to be off. And that's exactly

1052
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: what Pat Shermer comment did after the game. So to

1053
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: say that, to say that Eli Manning's decision making was

1054
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: terrible on that is not evaluating the play in a

1055
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: truthful manner. Well, no, that he made the correct decision.

1056
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Speaker 1: He was open. Okay, thanks for the call, Greg, I'm

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Speaker 1: not done. I'm not okay, well real quick, about two minutes.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, okay, here go, here go, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I had called back a couple of years ago, Um,

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Speaker 1: and it was with John and Lands and I had

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Speaker 1: said that the Giants were essentially the Lakers, um, that

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Speaker 1: we live off our name and are making terrible decisions

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Speaker 1: for the future. I was I was laughed at. Um.

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Speaker 1: If you go back and listen to John Mara and

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Speaker 1: the press confidence when he fired Coughlin, he pretty much

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00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: blamed the entire um problems for player personnel, but then

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Speaker 1: kept Reee. So he's a short measure owner. And then

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Speaker 1: two years later we fire Reese, and then we we

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Speaker 1: bench manning, and then he folds to the to the mob,

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Speaker 1: and then here we are back to back years sucking

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Speaker 1: being the doormat and then getting told off by a

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Speaker 1: bunch of home fake analysts like you guys, appreciate Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, hill billy Greg. Yes, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what I noticed. You have to you gotta

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Speaker 1: be more like me and remain calm. I said, you're

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Speaker 1: getting well, you know, Dave, am I right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's well, I just get irritated when no,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for criticizing players. I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: It's just at least look at it in a fair

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Speaker 1: manner where you evaluate all sides of the play and

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Speaker 1: not just I don't like the player softer I'm gonna

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00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: throw them under the bus. Makes absolutely no say. And

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Speaker 1: and here's the other thing with us, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: to go drop. I'm not here to tell people what

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Speaker 1: they want to hear. There's a lot of people I

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Speaker 1: love the responses on Twitter. Why don't you say this.

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Speaker 1: That's not my job in life. I didn't come out

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Speaker 1: of the wound to tell you what you want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm analyzing things how I see it. See, David's gotta

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Speaker 1: be well, agree, maybe you're rubbing off on me here,

1091
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Speaker 1: but so there you go. Well, no, but the point listen,

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Speaker 1: we knew what today was going to be like. It

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Speaker 1: was going to be absolutely okay. We knew some people

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Speaker 1: were gonna be walking on allege. But you know what, folks, again,

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Speaker 1: the whole point of the show is so people can

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00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: get a chance to call in but we can't have

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Speaker 1: you for twenty minutes. You know why did you cut

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: this guy? Well, it doesn't go on forever. And and

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Speaker 1: going back to revisionist history, Greg the genius from Virginia,

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Speaker 1: let's go Let's let's go back too, and Columbus discovered America. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm really enough enough anyway, listen again. We're gonna remind

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Speaker 1: yourself amazing prizes throughout these this season. All right, again,

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Speaker 1: we thank you all for being part of the show.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to our fine producer Dave Dominic, my thanks

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Speaker 1: to my colleague here, Lance Meadow. A'm Russ Salzburg. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, we'll see you tomorrow. Have a god one,