1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast.

2
00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox

3
00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319
Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to

4
00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440
Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at

5
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every

6
00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799
Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio

7
00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720
Speaker 1: or FSR.

8
00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640
Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

9
00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

10
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh, it is NBA Draft Wednesday. It's a good draft

11
00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,560
Speaker 1: with a college superstar at number one.

12
00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,600
Speaker 3: We are live.

13
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,760
Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you

14
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,400
Speaker 1: may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.

15
00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,600
Speaker 1: John Middletop, who has been so great filling in this week.

16
00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Jmax comes back tomorrow. John's been crushing carshing at Rick

17
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Fatino in one hour from now. Everybody tried when Louis

18
00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,320
Speaker 1: Carnaseca left to rebuild Saint John's he did virtually overnight.

19
00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,480
Speaker 1: They were one of the most entertaining teams in the country.

20
00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,440
Speaker 1: So he's got a great sense to the draft. We

21
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280
Speaker 1: have one star player and then there's about ten guys

22
00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,040
Speaker 1: that people think could become really high end players, all stars.

23
00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520
Speaker 1: How deep of a draft, is it. I don't think

24
00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640
Speaker 1: you know these days. I don't know, but I want

25
00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,160
Speaker 1: to start with this. I believe John the college basketball

26
00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,400
Speaker 1: and I thought this about two years ago. College basketball

27
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,240
Speaker 1: is having a renaissance for the previous twenty years. I mean,

28
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,400
Speaker 1: you'd have guys that would win College Player of the Year,

29
00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,240
Speaker 1: they'd go to the NBA and they're the fourth guy

30
00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,959
Speaker 1: off a bench, the third guy off a bench. I

31
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,080
Speaker 1: believe between nil keeping really good college players in college

32
00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,440
Speaker 1: for another year or two and that nil money going

33
00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,080
Speaker 1: to Europe and Spain and poaching their best young players.

34
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,680
Speaker 1: I noticed it two years ago with a Yukon team

35
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800
Speaker 1: that had like seven NBA guys, and I'm like, Okay,

36
00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,000
Speaker 1: that team could compete against the Christian Laytner Duke team.

37
00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,000
Speaker 1: That team could play against the Ewing Hoyat team, size, aggressiveness,

38
00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 1: coaching NBA guards, and we've he's been their players come

39
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 1: to the NBA and crush. So my take is about

40
00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,040
Speaker 1: two years ago, I'm like, okay, we're back to what

41
00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,079
Speaker 1: I remember in college in my twenties and early thirties.

42
00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Were a college basketball team, if they were great, they

43
00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,040
Speaker 1: had like five guys that could play in the NBA

44
00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:20,200
Speaker 1: legitimate players, So Cooper Flag is the best domestic product.

45
00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,640
Speaker 1: I think he has a more well rounded game than

46
00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis or a Carmelo Anthony. The last two the

47
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,600
Speaker 1: last decade, we've had two stars, two stars be a

48
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,000
Speaker 1: number one pick. Wemby and Zion were stars, small markets

49
00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,880
Speaker 1: and bad rosters. Cooper Flag's going to Dallas. Dallas has

50
00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,040
Speaker 1: the deepest front line in the NBA. PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford,

51
00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, who I think is the best defensive player

52
00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,840
Speaker 1: in the league, Derek Lively. Four guys he didn't have

53
00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,120
Speaker 1: to defend the rim like in these highlights. He can

54
00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000
Speaker 1: get out on transition. He didn't have to worry about

55
00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,200
Speaker 1: and he's a good defender. He's going to be out

56
00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,840
Speaker 1: in transition. Dallas also needs because they have size, but

57
00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,639
Speaker 1: they need more ball handlers, playmakers, guys who can shoot.

58
00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,679
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson's getting old, so I think he's a perfect fit.

59
00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,600
Speaker 1: This is very rare. Just like Duke, He's gonna walk

60
00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,320
Speaker 1: in and he's not gonna waste four years waiting for

61
00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,959
Speaker 1: the coaching staff the draft picks to develop. And that's

62
00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 1: what Wemby's having to do. And San Antonio is going

63
00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,520
Speaker 1: to be really good eventually, But what do they win?

64
00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,160
Speaker 1: Thirty four games last year? This team, I believe, along

65
00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,000
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma City and now Houston with KD I think

66
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,040
Speaker 1: Dallas if Kyrie Irving comes back at any point next

67
00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,200
Speaker 1: year with Cooper flag and that front line, I think

68
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,840
Speaker 1: that's a team good enough to play for the Western

69
00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,920
Speaker 1: Conference Finals championship. So the top NBA teams, you know,

70
00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120
Speaker 1: they don't get the best draft picks. The last draft

71
00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I remember where you got a top pick for a

72
00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480
Speaker 1: top team was when, honestly it was Jason Tatum was

73
00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,520
Speaker 1: a top three pick. He went to the Celtics, he

74
00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240
Speaker 1: was good, and fag is gonna be good now. I

75
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,960
Speaker 1: think Cooper Flagg is a better defender at this point

76
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,840
Speaker 1: than Jason Tatum. And he's more aggressive than Jason Tatum,

77
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,440
Speaker 1: and aggressive matters. I mean, one of the great qualities

78
00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,800
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan. He was just aggressive. Kobe was aggressive,

79
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,280
Speaker 1: Shaq was aggressive. Some of our guys now they're more collaborative.

80
00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,279
Speaker 1: They're AAU guys. It takes a while for it to work.

81
00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: They want to be good teammates. I mean, our biggest

82
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,480
Speaker 1: criticism of Jason Tatum is would you take the ball?

83
00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Would you take the final shot? So Cooper Flagg has

84
00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,440
Speaker 1: an old school This kid was a high school phenom

85
00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,360
Speaker 1: in Maine, and if you read his life story, they

86
00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,200
Speaker 1: very early started having him play like a European player

87
00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,919
Speaker 1: against older players. They were beating him up. His trainer

88
00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,160
Speaker 1: was beating him up. And this kid was super hyper

89
00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,520
Speaker 1: aggressive playing against older players at fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. So

90
00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,159
Speaker 1: he's got an old school physicality and an old school

91
00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:59,680
Speaker 1: aggressiveness with a really really nice handle, good length, nice shot.

92
00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880
Speaker 1: He's got the modern skills, but the old school mentality.

93
00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,840
Speaker 1: And that Jason Tatum Celtics, remember, is a rookie. They

94
00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,040
Speaker 1: got to the Eastern Conference finals in fact, one of

95
00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,080
Speaker 1: the most iconic moves and the history of Jason Tatum's career.

96
00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,320
Speaker 1: Remember that early dunk. Is a rookie. Remember that he

97
00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,320
Speaker 1: got that early dunk on Lebron James. That's his rookie year.

98
00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,479
Speaker 1: And I think Cooper Flag he's not as good as

99
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum now and he's not going to be as

100
00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,560
Speaker 1: good as Jason Tatum for a while. But defensively aggressiveness,

101
00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,640
Speaker 1: this dude can play, and he's not going to be

102
00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,240
Speaker 1: the Mavericks Foundation today. But I would say at the

103
00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,599
Speaker 1: end of his second year, he's that good. Remember, he

104
00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,200
Speaker 1: should be in high school right now. He should be

105
00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800
Speaker 1: walking on the stage getting in his diploma. So this

106
00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640
Speaker 1: is to me, this is a really exciting draft. There's

107
00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,680
Speaker 1: a couple of Rutgers guys to keep your eye on.

108
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,120
Speaker 1: There's a couple other Dukies, there's a kid from Arizona

109
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080
Speaker 1: I like. But this draft is about Cooper Flag going

110
00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,040
Speaker 1: to a really, really good team with an a coach

111
00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,800
Speaker 1: and Bron James this week was talking about how good

112
00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,839
Speaker 1: he'll be and what a perfect fit it is for him.

113
00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,000
Speaker 4: He has to benefit Unlike myself. He gets to join

114
00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,159
Speaker 4: a team that's established right with Hall of Fame guys

115
00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,760
Speaker 4: Klay Thompson, Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irvin right off the bat,

116
00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,320
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame coach Jason Kidd, that type of presence,

117
00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,919
Speaker 4: that type of leadership, that type of you know, just

118
00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 4: basketball IQ and knowledge around him every single day from

119
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,239
Speaker 4: those pieces.

120
00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,279
Speaker 5: So I think he's going to be amazing.

121
00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens usually with a top pick is

122
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,200
Speaker 1: they coming at eighteen or nineteen and they have to

123
00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,159
Speaker 1: be the centerpiece of the team at least the second

124
00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,240
Speaker 1: best player, but they also have to be uniquely mature,

125
00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,400
Speaker 1: and John Moran and Zion weren't. Jason Tatum wasn't asked

126
00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,520
Speaker 1: to do that. They had a good, great GM, they

127
00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 1: had a good coach, they had a good roster. Jason

128
00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Tatum came in and it was like, hey, kid, can

129
00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,560
Speaker 1: you add your youth, your ennery, your legs to a

130
00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,279
Speaker 1: really good team and give us a spark in key moments.

131
00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,480
Speaker 1: That's all that Cooper Flag has to do. With a

132
00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 1: more aggressive old school mindset than Tatum. He's gonna be

133
00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,600
Speaker 1: a great player. I can't wait. Rick Pattino in one

134
00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,360
Speaker 1: hour from now. Okay, so yesterday Aaron Rodgers Pat McAfee

135
00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,160
Speaker 1: show comes out and says, that's probably gonna be it.

136
00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,400
Speaker 1: This is the last year I'm playing. And I was

137
00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,360
Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning. It's just incredible. Maybe it's

138
00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,200
Speaker 1: the water in Green Bay because Brett Farv's from the

139
00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,840
Speaker 1: Deep South and Aaron Rodgers is California cool. And what

140
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,160
Speaker 1: is remarkable if Aaron has some success this year. And

141
00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,440
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a second. Aaron Rodgers and

142
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,400
Speaker 1: Farv had identical careers, and let's face it the Steelers

143
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,480
Speaker 1: over under his eight and a half, they can absolutely

144
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,560
Speaker 1: win nine or ten games. They won ten games last

145
00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,720
Speaker 1: year and they were terrible on offense. Now I think

146
00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull back, but they have a number one receiver,

147
00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,760
Speaker 1: great culture, good code, excellent defense. Joe Burrow goes down.

148
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,640
Speaker 1: They have the second best roster in the division to

149
00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens. They could certainly make the playoffs. But I

150
00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,560
Speaker 1: want to take you through the ABC's of Farv and

151
00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' similarities. It's crazy. So they both enter Green

152
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,680
Speaker 1: Bay as backups and then eventually one dude to an

153
00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,480
Speaker 1: injury and one dude to Farv leaving b. They eventually

154
00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,760
Speaker 1: get the starting job and immediately you see a plus

155
00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,760
Speaker 1: talent the game. Farv came in for an injured quarterback.

156
00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,800
Speaker 1: He led him to a late game victory. Aaron's first year,

157
00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,240
Speaker 1: he goes six and ten, but everybody's like, whoa, whoa,

158
00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,160
Speaker 1: this guy is good. See both have profound decade and

159
00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,040
Speaker 1: a half packer seasons. Far for sixteen years, Aaron for

160
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 1: fifteen and in their prime, John Madden fell in love

161
00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,160
Speaker 1: with Farv felt he was the most talented quarterback, and

162
00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,600
Speaker 1: Aaron wasn't posting all the trophies that Tom was. But

163
00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,199
Speaker 1: the feeling was Aaron's the most talented thrower over the

164
00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480
Speaker 1: football in the league. That's what we thought about farv

165
00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,319
Speaker 1: D one. They both win one Super Bowl and multiple

166
00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,920
Speaker 1: MVPs were left with both thinking they won a little

167
00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,200
Speaker 1: more e They both get a little weird, a little prickly,

168
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 1: a little testy with management. They don't want to learn

169
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,240
Speaker 1: new systems. You hear this kind of early retirement talk

170
00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,320
Speaker 1: and you're likev's Aaron, you guys got years left. F

171
00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,960
Speaker 1: They go to the Jets and it's a disaster. So

172
00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,320
Speaker 1: you say, well, Colin Farv went to a really good

173
00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,320
Speaker 1: team in Minnesota. Well, Aaron wanted to go to Minnesota.

174
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400
Speaker 1: But do you remember the Minnesota team Farv went to.

175
00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,000
Speaker 1: They won ten games the year before he got there. Well,

176
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,320
Speaker 1: what did the Steelers do this past year? They won

177
00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,000
Speaker 1: ten games before Aaron signed up. So most of us

178
00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,640
Speaker 1: learn from the alphabet. Aaron Rodgers learned from the alpha. Brett.

179
00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,600
Speaker 1: It's the same career if Aaron can and when nine

180
00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,960
Speaker 1: or ten games and squeeze into the playoffs. Remember Cleveland's

181
00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,080
Speaker 1: in a reboot, Baltimore's the best. You are fighting Cincinnati,

182
00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,280
Speaker 1: which has had constant controversy with contracts. Their number one

183
00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,439
Speaker 1: pick may not show up to the team. Their defensive

184
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,320
Speaker 1: end pass rushers furious. Joe Burrow has a history of

185
00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,440
Speaker 1: not getting great protection, being upset and getting ding dub.

186
00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,520
Speaker 1: It's very possible they're battling on New England. They're battling

187
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,680
Speaker 1: a Houston or in Indianapolis for a wild card spot.

188
00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,280
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, listen, they won ten games

189
00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,439
Speaker 1: last year, They had the twenty third offense with Aaron.

190
00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,959
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be around middle of the league.

191
00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,280
Speaker 1: They got DK Metcalf, They have a maybe the second

192
00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,560
Speaker 1: or third best center, Arthur Smith appears capable aired at

193
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,280
Speaker 1: the end in New York played okay, some thought good okay.

194
00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,319
Speaker 1: So it just to me it's so funny. I don't

195
00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,560
Speaker 1: know if it's the water in Green Bay, but you

196
00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,080
Speaker 1: couldn't find two personalities that are more different, sort of

197
00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,960
Speaker 1: the southern good old boy Farv in the California hipster

198
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,120
Speaker 1: with a chip on his shoulder Aaron, and they have

199
00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,360
Speaker 1: morphed into the exact same career a decade and a half.

200
00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,280
Speaker 1: We thought they should have won another super Bowl in

201
00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,360
Speaker 1: their prime, we're thought of as the cool quarterback. Peyton,

202
00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,120
Speaker 1: Manning and Brady weren't cool. Farv was cool. Aaron was cool,

203
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,080
Speaker 1: and here they are at the end. Aaron wins ten games,

204
00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,280
Speaker 1: sneaks into the playoffs. It will look You'll look at

205
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,920
Speaker 1: this thing twenty years later and think, how did that

206
00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,439
Speaker 1: end up? The exact same, John, You know a lot

207
00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,600
Speaker 1: about those Packers. I don't think they're gonna win ten games,

208
00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 1: but I also think I've been doubting the Steelers for

209
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,080
Speaker 1: three years in a row and they keep winning nine

210
00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,840
Speaker 1: and ten games.

211
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240
Speaker 6: I will say this about Farv in Minnesota.

212
00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,520
Speaker 3: Old body indoors a little easier, can you know, close

213
00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,400
Speaker 3: your eyes picture Aaron Rodgers forty one in some of

214
00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,280
Speaker 3: those cold weather as see North games. A little harder

215
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:01,920
Speaker 3: on the joints.

216
00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640
Speaker 6: Colin No, I.

217
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920
Speaker 1: Will say, do you remember the Minnesota season though?

218
00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 3: Well, they had Adrian Peterson too, who was a rocket

219
00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,120
Speaker 3: ship at the time.

220
00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,599
Speaker 1: Yes, but it was one in terms of one of

221
00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,280
Speaker 1: the more galvanizing, likable teams in the last twenty years

222
00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

223
00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,360
Speaker 6: It was fun.

224
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,440
Speaker 1: It was wild watching Farv come back to the division

225
00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,920
Speaker 1: and face the Packers, and Packer fans didn't know what

226
00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,959
Speaker 1: to do because they all had his jersey and now

227
00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,800
Speaker 1: he was playing for the rival Vikings. It was this

228
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:36,240
Speaker 1: weird confluence of angst, like I love him, he's driving

229
00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,200
Speaker 1: me crazy. He's my guy. Now he plays for the rival,

230
00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,800
Speaker 1: so you don't get that. And I do think Minnesota

231
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,560
Speaker 1: was the perfect place for Aaron Rodgers, but they kind

232
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,880
Speaker 1: of line up their careers and at the very end,

233
00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839
Speaker 1: FARV got a little odd. And I don't want to

234
00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,959
Speaker 1: take any shots at Aaron, but yesterday one of the

235
00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,080
Speaker 1: things he said was I'm going to go hide in retirement.

236
00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,760
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking it's the odd season you're on a

237
00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,720
Speaker 1: TV show. You're not exactly a guy who hides, Okay.

238
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,880
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

239
00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 2: and neon Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports

240
00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,200
Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app Hi.

241
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,000
Speaker 6: This is Jay.

242
00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,240
Speaker 7: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.

243
00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480
Speaker 7: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to

244
00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,120
Speaker 7: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

245
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,839
Speaker 7: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who

246
00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,440
Speaker 7: have the dumbest takes on Sports Imaginable. Don't listen to

247
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,680
Speaker 7: the show so it can get camps.

248
00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Wha, what the hell are you doing in our studio?

249
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,959
Speaker 1: Get him, Paul.

250
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,079
Speaker 6: Ignore that fool.

251
00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,160
Speaker 3: Listen to the Paula and Tony Fusco Show on the

252
00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,640
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

253
00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,559
Speaker 6: He's still moving.

254
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,440
Speaker 1: So yesterday we did our three things that would be surprises.

255
00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,880
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people, I mean, we

256
00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to go too over the top. I bought

257
00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,560
Speaker 1: all of yours because I think Daniel Jones and the

258
00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,160
Speaker 1: Colts could win the division. I don't think they could

259
00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,400
Speaker 1: win the AFC West. I think they win the AFC South.

260
00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,080
Speaker 1: So here, there we go. Here are the surprise moves.

261
00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,360
Speaker 1: Number one. This is the least surprising of any I've

262
00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,520
Speaker 1: done in the last two days. Brian Schottenneimer is a

263
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,959
Speaker 1: one and done. Jerry will know by Thanksgiving he made

264
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,400
Speaker 1: a huge mistake. Forget the fact that Philadelphia and Washington

265
00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,480
Speaker 1: will probably both blow them out in division twice. We've

266
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of one and done's happening now. David Cully,

267
00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,560
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, Urban Meyer, Nathaniel Hackett, Antonio, Piers, Jared Mayo.

268
00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920
Speaker 1: People liked Antonio Pierce. I mean he was the Raiders

269
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240
Speaker 1: played a lot of people tough, including the Chiefs. One

270
00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,080
Speaker 1: and done happens all the time now and as the NFC,

271
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,320
Speaker 1: there was about a three year window to make hay

272
00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 1: in the NFC where it was kind of soft. As

273
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,760
Speaker 1: John's pointed out, the coaching and the NFC are no

274
00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600
Speaker 1: longer soft. And I think Dallas is going to be

275
00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,760
Speaker 1: humiliated on a lot of Sundays. That's my first surprise.

276
00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,960
Speaker 6: You know, I'm going to go with the Packers win

277
00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,320
Speaker 6: the North.

278
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people Minnesota, Detroit, Minnesota new

279
00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,160
Speaker 3: quarterback right Detroit, two new coordinators. We don't know if

280
00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,040
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson can go coach. The Packers went one in

281
00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480
Speaker 3: five last year in the division. They won eleven games.

282
00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,680
Speaker 3: Their quarterback also got hurt Week one, which kind of

283
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 3: into them off. And they have one of the best

284
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,880
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators in the league who's.

285
00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,040
Speaker 6: Their head coach in Lafloor.

286
00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,720
Speaker 3: Their defense last year, getting halfway from Boston College, was

287
00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,760
Speaker 3: a top five unit in the league. So and they

288
00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,840
Speaker 3: got a lot of young players. I think the Packers

289
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,520
Speaker 3: are going to be a force to be reckoned with.

290
00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be stunned if they were the number one

291
00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 3: overall seed.

292
00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,680
Speaker 1: Well here's what's interesting about that pick. I had this

293
00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,600
Speaker 1: kind of inner conversation. I was thinking about this the

294
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,600
Speaker 1: other day. My problem with Green Bay is every team

295
00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,200
Speaker 1: in the league I like has at least three elite players.

296
00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,640
Speaker 1: Who's their best player?

297
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840
Speaker 6: It's a group mutant, it is a team. I mean,

298
00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,480
Speaker 6: but I loved that operation Collin.

299
00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,320
Speaker 5: It is.

300
00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,160
Speaker 1: But I you know, they don't get free agents, so

301
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600
Speaker 1: they can't solve holes. So if they have a hole,

302
00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,120
Speaker 1: they have to get it in the draft. Like I

303
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,920
Speaker 1: like their wide receivers. They saw it as a weakness

304
00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,360
Speaker 1: and attacked it in the first round. Like I thought

305
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,160
Speaker 1: jay R Alexander two years ago was their best player,

306
00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is right now.

307
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,640
Speaker 3: I'll say this about the Packers a lot like the Ravens.

308
00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640
Speaker 3: They draft and develop as well as any team that

309
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,960
Speaker 3: they do, and their offensive line is always excellent. So

310
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,960
Speaker 3: to me, Jordan Love Obviously they need him to play

311
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,240
Speaker 3: at a higher level, but I just trust the infrastructure there.

312
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna like this. Number two is Niners

313
00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,640
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, So first of all, they lost Dre

314
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,040
Speaker 1: Greenlaw who Funga and Deebo Samuel They didn't really want

315
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,760
Speaker 1: to Those are good players. The players they have now

316
00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,160
Speaker 1: on offense get injured. They have a sub five hundred record,

317
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,640
Speaker 1: Kyle does without Christian McCaffrey. How many games do you get?

318
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040
Speaker 1: They're a sprain knee on, Trent Williams at left tackle

319
00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,400
Speaker 1: from having a bad offensive line again, McCaffrey coming off

320
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,880
Speaker 1: an injured season. They were six and eleven last year.

321
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,920
Speaker 1: I think Seattle's got an excellent roster. That Rams defense

322
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,680
Speaker 1: only getting better, and I think the Arizona guy can coach.

323
00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how great they are, but they're gonna

324
00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400
Speaker 1: upset including the Rams. They're gonna get some upsets next year.

325
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering, Ricky pearsol Juwan Jennings are ones.

326
00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 1: I think the schedule helps them, but they are a

327
00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,000
Speaker 1: key offensive injury Christian or Trent Williams or Kittle from

328
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,320
Speaker 1: being a different team.

329
00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna like this, Colin. The

330
00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560
Speaker 3: forty nine ers are making the playoffs. You just talked

331
00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,280
Speaker 3: about it. Coaching, right, they have one of the best

332
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,880
Speaker 3: coach in the league. Oh yeah, They also added Robert

333
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,560
Speaker 3: Sola back in the mixed tea AC and DC.

334
00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,879
Speaker 6: They were terrible last.

335
00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,240
Speaker 3: Year in one score games, especially in the division. They

336
00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,679
Speaker 3: lost a close game to the Rams, they lost a

337
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,320
Speaker 3: close game to the Cardinals. They lost a close game

338
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,760
Speaker 3: to the Seattle All in the last final couple of

339
00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,240
Speaker 3: minutes of the fourth quarter. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. Kyle

340
00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,320
Speaker 3: just said it a couple weeks ago.

341
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 6: He's full go. Trent Williams healthy. They have been a

342
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 6: lot like an NBA team.

343
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159
Speaker 3: They've been making these deep runs, deep runs, and they

344
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,239
Speaker 3: just ran out of juice last year. It happens well

345
00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960
Speaker 3: last year. They've been off since January first, so you

346
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,359
Speaker 3: get extra rest. I think Brock Perdy is going to

347
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,000
Speaker 3: have a big year. I think Kyle has a lot

348
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,920
Speaker 3: to prove, and I just think based on the schedule,

349
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's inconceivable they get ten to eleven wins.

350
00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,199
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears make the playoffs. First of all, I

351
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,639
Speaker 1: think Minnesota's gonna regress. I don't think Detroit will be

352
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,680
Speaker 1: as good because I don't know if the coordinators are

353
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,040
Speaker 1: and Green Bay could be good, but they're not dominating.

354
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 1: They don't have dominating personnel. First of all, I think

355
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,080
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's got a Sean McVay field. First thing he

356
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 1: attacks is the offensive line. Sean Payton, first thing he

357
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 1: attacks offensive line. Andy Reid's done it multiple times. Fix

358
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The Bears offensive line was awful. Some

359
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 1: of that's Caleb absolutely, but young quarterbacks, even Jaden Daniels,

360
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 1: it's Cliff Kingsbury. They need a mentor, they need a king,

361
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: a guide iber fluse defensive staff. Your passing game coordinator

362
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,880
Speaker 1: becomes your head coach. Jonah Jackson, Drew Dolman, Joe Tooney.

363
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 1: That's a really good guard center guard combination. I think

364
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 1: it's a nine to a ten win team. Detroit's good,

365
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,640
Speaker 1: not dominating, because, as Philadelphia showed us, you can get

366
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl if you lose good coordinators or

367
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 1: replace him with B and c's things get ugly by Thanksgiving.

368
00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 1: I think the Bears make the playoffs.

369
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 6: I don't hate it.

370
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, he's one of the best athletes we've ever seen.

371
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 3: Is he a good quarterback? I think this will be

372
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 3: his last season on the Cardinals. This GM and head

373
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 3: coach did not draft him. He's never won a playoff game.

374
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs this year.

375
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 3: How many years can you go with a high priced

376
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 3: quarterback and not win? Usually those guys get moved. He

377
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: still has value. You could put a highlight tape together

378
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 3: just ten twenty plays at Kyler Murray. He's as good

379
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,959
Speaker 3: as anyone in the league. But when you watch him

380
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 3: over the course of a game, over the course of

381
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 3: a month, he leads leaves a lot he decided.

382
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he can always see receivers like two

383
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: has talked about because of size five.

384
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: To nine, but he can move. He's got a huge arm.

385
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 3: I still think he'd have a market. He's not a

386
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 3: bad player. He's If anything, he's a frustrating player because

387
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 3: the talent's there. He's pretty accurate down the field. Obviously

388
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 3: his speed is pretty special. But can he slice and

389
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 3: dice the good teams when he has to in the

390
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 3: third and fourth quarter down the stretch of a season.

391
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 6: I don't see it happening.

392
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: So I would expect Kyler Murray in twenty twenty six

393
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 3: to be in.

394
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 6: A new home.

395
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he will have a market because he's doing his

396
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: athletic prime. So I have Dallas blows out the coaching

397
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: staff after one year. Niners close but missed the playoffs.

398
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: A little too old offensively, there'll be injuries. I think

399
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 1: the NFC North is very even, but I don't think

400
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: Detroit's coaching is as good. And John has the Packers

401
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: win the division, Niners do make the playoffs, and Kyler

402
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: Murray gets moved. I think in over the course of

403
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: two days, the one that people go whoa is Daniel

404
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: Jones makes the playoffs. Last year c J. Stroud pulled back.

405
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: They blame the offensive coordinator, They blamed injuries to receivers.

406
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: That one, if that's the crazy one, I think that's

407
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 1: got legs.

408
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 6: Yeah to be.

409
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: We've seen it in recent you know, with Baker Mayfield,

410
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: Sam Donald high picks resurrecting their career and to me

411
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: the Alex Smith comp He's going to hand the ball off,

412
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: they're going to play defense. They're not looking for forty touchdos,

413
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 3: they just need like twenty two.

414
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: Okay, So the Boston Celtics over the last couple of

415
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: days have made moves. They made another one yesterday. First

416
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 1: it was Drew Holliday who said his word's not mine.

417
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 1: He was pissed. The Celtics traded him to Portland and

418
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: now poor zingis to the Atlanta Hawks and a three

419
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: team deal. So two big trades in a year coming

420
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: up that Jason Tatum probably doesn't play and this is

421
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Okay, there is maximum punitive

422
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 1: penalties now with the luxury tax, so financial negligence is

423
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: severely punished. It was sort of punished now even for billionaires.

424
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: It's severely punished. So the Celtics saved one hundred and

425
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: eighty million in taxes making these moves, and it shows

426
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: once again the value of front offices. The Celtics have

427
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: done this multiple times. They're in a rebuild or a reboot,

428
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: and they can still vie for the playoffs. In fact,

429
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 1: I think with Jalen Brown, Derek White, Peyton Pritchard and

430
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: Andfrety Simons can score and hit threes, they will vie

431
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: for the Eastern Conference finals. They'll vy for it. Knicks

432
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: don't have a coach, Halliburn's gone with the Pacers. Orlando's

433
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: good but really young. The Magic didn't get KD. I

434
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: never trust the Sixers. They and you know what is Cleveland.

435
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: We're not even sure Milwaukee is honest, they or not.

436
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: Even if he is, they don't have the pieces. So

437
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Boston's going to buy. They're gonna hit a lot of

438
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: three pointers. They're gonna be a young, very good regular

439
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: season team. Porzingis gone, Horford probably next, Jason Tatum down,

440
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: Drew Holliday was aging. He's gone. And this is the

441
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: classic Boston Celtics. Optimize the presence, don't get yourself, don't

442
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: be the Phoenix Suns, go all in, make mistakes, grab

443
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: a shovel, and keep digging. This is why Danny Ainge

444
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: and Brad Stevens keep over and over winning trades. They've

445
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: got a big picture plan and and and and they

446
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: have no problem rebooting. Generally, in sports, when you reboot,

447
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: you get bad. But I think the Celtics also looked

448
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: at Halliburton, Nicks don't have a coach, Miami didn't get KD.

449
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: And I think inside the building, Boston's thinking, we're gon

450
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna end up in the Eastern Conference finals because

451
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: nobody trusts Nobody trusts Cleveland. We like Cleveland, we liked

452
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: them for four years. I never done anything without Lebron.

453
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: We don't trust him in the playoffs, so I Milwaukee.

454
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: With or without Giannis, They're they're not a championship level team.

455
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: So this is classic Boston. Now people will say, well,

456
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they only have two titles in thirty so

457
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: many years. Aren't they almost alas good? They're almost a

458
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: was viable. Danny Ainge was doing massive rebuilds and they

459
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: were viable. Jason Tatum's rookie year, they made the Eastern

460
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: Conference finals. So I look at today even without Tatum,

461
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: in my take is yeah, yeah, they're going to be

462
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton Pritchard three, Anthony Signums, three, Jaln Brown

463
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: defends in threes my name, why not? So this is

464
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: another example of the gap. This is what you know,

465
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: for the record, Oklahoma City as they were getting all

466
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: these draft picks. Remember when Oklahoma City was getting all

467
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: these draft picks, and we're like, man, they're gonna be

468
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: good in three years. Remember this couple couple years ago,

469
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs and so the playoffs. Celtics

470
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: have made the playoffs seventeen of the last eighteen seasons.

471
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: They've had a complete overhaul. Remember when they shifted all

472
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: the guys to Brooklyn, they got all the draft picks,

473
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: You're like, well that was a good run. Tears, no

474
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: over beers, Let's go hang out at Jo Shawnees. This

475
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: is going to be a rough stretch now. They made

476
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's what they do, and they do it

477
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: with great ownership, great front offices. And when they reboot,

478
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: they look around the league and they're like, Okay, save

479
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: money saved mone they save money once again. They're going

480
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: to be viable. I mean, I'm thinking this morning, I

481
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: love Orlando. Next year, I think Orlando's gonna end up

482
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference finals. The Knicks do not have

483
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: a coach, the New York Knicks, and when they hire him,

484
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: he won't be as good as the last coach. That's

485
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: what the Celtics do.

486
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Our two next, be sure to catch live editions of

487
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and neon Eastern non am Pacific on

488
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

489
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: Here we Go, It's Our two. It's NB A draft night,

490
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: a draft chuck full of domestic players. Couple Rutger guys,

491
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: three guys do Cooper Flag will go number one Arizona.

492
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: You're getting big schools, big brands, very good players. Is

493
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: it a great draft? I think it's good at the top,

494
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: but again, it's an NBA draft. These are young players.

495
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: It's not the NFL where guys giving it twenty three.

496
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: They've been in call it for three or four years.

497
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Their bodies are mature. I mean even Cooper Flag right now.

498
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: Had he not taken the opportunity to move ahead, he

499
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: would be in high school getting his diploma right now.

500
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: So he he shouldn't have played college yet, but he

501
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: was so good out of Maine in the Duke that

502
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: they moved his progress up. And now Cooper Flag is

503
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: going to go number one to Dallas, the number two pick.

504
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: There are reports Dylan Harper that the Spurs, if they

505
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: got an amazing offer, would move the pick. I don't

506
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: think they're going to. But if somebody gets on the

507
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: phone and offers at four number, you know, four lottery picks,

508
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: you do it. You know, almost everybody's tradable. MAV's the

509
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: first pick. I think we know they're going to take.

510
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: I think Dylan Harper is the obvious pick for the Spurs.

511
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Dylan Harper not getting talked a lout because let's be honest,

512
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: we watch college basketball mostly In March six' six left

513
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: the good. Handles he's a really good, player not close

514
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: to what he's going to, become Whereas Cooper flag you

515
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: feel like you kind of know what he's going to look.

516
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Like But harper of the two, players he's a, playmaker

517
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: can create shots for himself and. Others you, know he's

518
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: a smooth, lefty and he is probably in the fifth

519
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: inning of his. Development he's just starting so and a

520
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: lot of these, drafts you, know in, baseball you can

521
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: draft a college, kid so he's been AT, lsu or

522
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: he's been at Like, michigan a good, program so you

523
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of know what you're. Getting in THE, nba you're

524
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: projecting a. Lot you're doing a lot of projecting on

525
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: what's going to. Be so it's hard to call any

526
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: draft a great. Draft what you have now is a great,

527
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: prospect Like wimby was a great. Prospect we Thought zion

528
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: And John morant were great prospects and they just weren't

529
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: mature enough at the time to take over a. Team

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: WHAT i like About Cooper flagg is he won't be

531
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: asked to take over a. Team he's got an a,

532
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: Coach they've got an incredible frontline In. DALLAS i said

533
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: this last year with A Nico harrison trade With. Luca i'm,

534
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: like If kyrie And ady didn't get, hurt this team

535
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: is really, good really. Good And Cooper flag is what

536
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: they need, transition can hit a, three can be a.

537
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: Playmaker they need young. Legs and he's a guy that

538
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: needs to get out on the, break so he doesn't

539
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: want he won't have to defend the. Rim dallas has

540
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: trees back. There he can sit, back get the, ball

541
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: couple dribbles past half, court ready to. Roll SO i

542
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: think it's gonna BE i think it's gonna be an

543
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating, draft One i'm gonna. Watch in, FACT i

544
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: said last YEAR i thought THE Wnba draft was better

545
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: than THE Nba draft because THE wnba, stars the college

546
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: basketball women's, stars john have been in college for four.

547
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Years they're not leaving. Early and SO i Watched South,

548
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: CAROLINA i watched the women's final. FOUR i Watch ukon.

549
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Play so a lot of the draft is your visceral.

550
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Connection that's, why, like whether you Like Baker mayfield or,

551
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: not you watched him play for two or three years in.

552
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 1: College you have an opinion on. Him Cooper, flag you

553
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: have an opinion on, him and that's what makes THE

554
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: nfl draft. Better to this point in THE Nba, draft

555
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: we've seen him and we've got strong. Opinions for.

556
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: Sure you had, mentioned you, know one of the better

557
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: prospects in the last decade With wemby And, Zion zion

558
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: looked like an offensive lineman or a defensive unique body.

559
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 6: Type wemby's like eight feet.

560
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: Tall Cooper flag looks like what AN nba player is

561
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: supposed to look, like right right.

562
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: In that six body.

563
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Type it just, works you, Know, wemby it, might BUT i,

564
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: mean he's already battled some. Injuries zion has battled his

565
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: weight from the jump Like Cooper. Flag that, Translates.

566
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i was reading Some Cooper flag stuff like

567
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: some of you have, Done i'm sure over the last

568
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: couple of. Days his high school career In. Maine one

569
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: of the THINGS i really like about, him AND i

570
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: think his compass sort Of Jason. TATUM i just like

571
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: how darn aggressive he. Is AND i think the old

572
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: school players were all fighting for financial, pie The Michael,

573
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: jordan's The Larry, BIRDS i, mean And Rick, patino our

574
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: guest knows that the league was. Feisty the league had

575
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: some angry players for The Poe now bench guys make fifteen.

576
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Million they're all like. Friends they do each other's, charities

577
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: they go on each other's. Podcast cooper's got a little

578
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: old school. Feisty he's got a little old school, chip

579
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: AND i want to bring in many people over the,

580
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: years WHEN i talk to them on or off the,

581
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: AIR i always, say if there's a coach in, college

582
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: you would not want to coach against The Rick patino's

583
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: one or. Two And i've ASKED nba people, like give

584
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: me somebody that changed the way you saw, basketball and

585
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: they often Say Rick. Patino he did At Saint, john's

586
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: which all of us who Grow i'm A West coast.

587
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: KID i grew up not loving The pac. TWELVE i

588
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: love The Big EAST, Pj, Carlissimo Louis Carna, Seca patino

589
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: was At. Providence that's the BASKETBALL i grew up With

590
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: beeheim At. Syracuse And Rick patino, now who has Turned

591
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Saint john's. Around he has the number one incoming class coming.

592
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: In.

593
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Rick it's interesting people have grumbled about the transfer portal

594
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: in THE nil and you had a really interesting take on,

595
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: this which was stop grumbling about. It you're using it

596
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: to your, advantage SO i want to start. There there's

597
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: been a lot of, changes but you've really put your

598
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: arms around all the changes despite not being a thirty

599
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: five year. Old that's easy when you're thirty five years,

600
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: old you're an older. Coach why did you not grumble

601
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: about the transfer portal AND nil and instead used?

602
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 8: It, WELL i felt the change was here and, quitting,

603
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 8: resigning complaining is of no.

604
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: Value you have to win the. Day you have to

605
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: get the job.

606
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 8: Done AND i just felt, That, okay we're going to

607
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 8: use it to the best of our abilities At Saint.

608
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 8: John's so we're an urban, school we're a commuter, school

609
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 8: we play In Madison Square garden as a home. Court

610
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 8: how can we maximize off potential by embracing THE nil

611
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 8: and the transfer? Portal we went away from high school basketball,

612
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 8: players although we had taken one or two a year to,

613
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 8: develop but by And lodge we've gone after older.

614
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Players, Rick i've been saying this now for a, year

615
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: that college basketball is having a, renaissance that THE nil

616
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: is keeping some pros in college for one more, year

617
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: and you guys are also poaching international players who are really,

618
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: good and that WHEN i Watched yukon two years, AGO i, Said,

619
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: okay college basketball's. Back they got SEVEN nba. Guys that

620
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: team could compete against anybody that's a real basketball. Team, length,

621
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: aggressiveness perimeter. DEFENSE i think you have gone back into.

622
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: College do you notice it over the last year or

623
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: two that there is a there's more layers to the

624
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: talent in your?

625
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 8: Sport, definitely we've found that why go to THE g

626
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 8: league when you can make seven eight hundred thousand. Dollars

627
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 8: so Many european basketball, players if they sign on With,

628
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 8: olympiaco So, Punet niko or somebody lower level, teams they're

629
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 8: going to make maybe three hundred four hundred. Thousand they

630
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 8: could go to college and make a lot more than.

631
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 8: That so with finding that The european players want to

632
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 8: come here and attend college and stay away from going

633
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 8: to the.

634
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Pros so you have an intricate knowledge of high, SCHOOL

635
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: aau college pro. Basketball give me two traits About Cooper

636
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: flag that you say to, yourself those are pro traits

637
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: that will work.

638
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 8: Immediately, well he's physically, ready he's extremely, athletic he shoots the,

639
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 8: basketball he's a tough young, man and he's maybe one

640
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 8: of like three players that are ready to have an

641
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 8: impact right away for The Dallas. Mavericks he's got a

642
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 8: good inside, game good outside. Game he drives with, force

643
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 8: he knows how to play the. Game he actually is.

644
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 8: Young he's skipped a year of high.

645
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: School so it's he's.

646
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 8: Ready for THE nba AND i think he'll be an

647
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 8: impact basketball player right.

648
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Away so you FACED. Vj edgecombe From. Baylor, okay what

649
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: did you see that you like as a pro and

650
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: is there anything he needs to work on as a?

651
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 8: Pro vj is amendous, athlete, fast he plays way way

652
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 8: above the. Rim he's lightning quick in the open. Court

653
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 8: he's got an average to good jump. Shot he needs

654
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 8: a lot of work on his jump. Shot but that being,

655
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 8: said most guys when they go to THE, nba from

656
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 8: being declared non shooters become great shooters by the time

657
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 8: they're in their second third year in THE.

658
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: Nba, yeah it is.

659
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: FUNNY i don't Remember Ray allen being that good of

660
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: a shooter in. College in, FACT i remember him being,

661
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: athletic and five years later he's an unbelievable. Shooter SO

662
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: i don't know WHY i think you're right on. That

663
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: so WHEN i look At Dylan. HARPER i see a

664
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: guy that's in the fourth inning of a nine inning,

665
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: game like he's got a long way to. Go, Again

666
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: i'll ask you if many suspect he's the number two,

667
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: pick do you think he is worthy of a number two?

668
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Pick what do you? See?

669
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 6: RICK i?

670
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: Do because he understands the.

671
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 8: Game there are very few players out there that totally

672
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 8: get the game and how it should be.

673
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 5: Played Dylan harper is someone that understands the.

674
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 8: Game he has great, pace great, tempo gets his shout

675
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 8: off in, traffic but really understands.

676
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 5: How to make players.

677
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 8: Better there aren't too many guys in the draft that

678
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 8: make players.

679
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: Better he's one of, those you.

680
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: KNOW i it's funny about THE, nba WHERE i think

681
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: it's an. Advantage in THE, nba people have always, said,

682
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: oh you want to be you want to be in

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: a big. Market and my take is, no if you're

684
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: in a big, market tibbs happens that the owners, like

685
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: we got to win. Now but In, Okac sam prest

686
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: he's doing a. Rebuild it's the only game in. Town they're.

687
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: PATIENT i, Mean San antonio won thirty four games last.

688
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Year they haven't won more than that in six, years

689
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: everybody's all in on the youth. Movement nobody has a.

690
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Problem when you, look you went To, boston which is

691
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: the most Pressurized East coast. Market when you look at

692
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: THE nba right, now do you like where it's at

693
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: as a. Sport do you think they're doing a good

694
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: enough job taking your college players and developing them or

695
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: do you do you think sometimes it's a rush.

696
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 8: Job the MISTAKE i think people are making is they're

697
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 8: too much into young. Players for, Instance Walter clayton. Junior,

698
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 8: Yeah Walter, clayton WHO i recruited At. Iona he won

699
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 8: two high school championships back to, back comes WITH, us

700
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 8: wins A Mac, championships he's THE mvp of the. League

701
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 8: then he goes To florida as a, transfer elevates his,

702
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 8: game wins the national championship right, away very similar TO

703
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 8: i look at him like a smaller version Of murray From.

704
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 5: Denver Walter clayton.

705
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 8: Junior because he's a little, older he should If i'm a,

706
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 8: COACH i want A Walter clayton junior BECAUSE i know

707
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 8: he's a knockdown.

708
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: SHOOTER i know he makes free.

709
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 8: Throws he's an unbelievable foul, shooter he knows how to,

710
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 8: pass he has good, verticality he does EVERYTHING i want

711
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 8: as far as a. Winner but they, say well he's

712
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 8: a little, older so we'll draft the younger. Players it's

713
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 8: almost like it's an excuse for the general managers in

714
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 8: the scouts to a.

715
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: Really really young.

716
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 8: Place so if he doesn't make, it they'll just, say,

717
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 8: well he's. Young it's a build.

718
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: Excuse, yeah you know It's we were just talking About

719
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: Sean payton earlier and all the roadblocks he was able

720
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: to overcome In, denver AND i, said, Yes sean can

721
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: be a little overconfident and he's. DIRECT i, said but

722
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: get over. That people are either, good so is your orthopedic.

723
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Surgeon people are confident or they're. NOT i don't have

724
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: to love my. Pilot can you get me through a lightning?

725
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Storm and Take my takeaway is you have been able.

726
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: There And i'm not even gonna tell you who told me.

727
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: This i'll just SAY i talked to two coaches WHO i,

728
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: respect and they, said here's What patino. Does one of them, was,

729
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: man they're, Practices rick's gonna work. You those are tough.

730
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Practices if you were Scouting Rick patino and don't be humble.

731
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Here what do you, Think? Rick what is your? Belief

732
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: what are the two things that have made you capable

733
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: OF i Thought Saint john's they've been trying for twenty,

734
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: year there's to turn it. Around what is your? Secret?

735
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: SAUCE a couple of tenants from.

736
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 8: That, well we have player development sessions every Morning monday Through,

737
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 8: friday where we go three to four different sessions with four,

738
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 8: players and we try to take players like A Donovan

739
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 8: mitchell And Terry rogier who maybe's not ranked top twenty twenty.

740
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 5: Five in high.

741
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 8: School they've got a little bit of a. Weakness Donovan

742
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 8: mitchell had a weakness with the ark on his jump.

743
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 8: Shot everybody's got a weakness coming out that's not top.

744
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 8: Ten so we try to take those player development sessions

745
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 8: and make the players. Better our, practices, yes are very,

746
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 8: difficult BUT i will say, this they're not. Long we

747
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 8: don't go more than two, hours but we go hard

748
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 8: for two.

749
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: Hours we're up and down for two.

750
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 8: Hours IF i make a, comment a, correction it's going

751
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 8: to be within twelve seconds and then we're moving. On

752
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 8: because conditioning is a gigantic.

753
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 5: Part of our style of.

754
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: Play, yeah, no. NO i heard that At louisville as.

755
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Well SO i got to ask you About Caitlin. Clark

756
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: So i've always tried to do general managers in THE

757
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: nba in THE. Nfl it's not an exact. SCIENCE a

758
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: kid becomes a. Pro now he gets, money you don't

759
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: know how he's going to. React he may miss home

760
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: if he played At, alabama now he's playing In. Seattle

761
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: you just don't. Know i've got. Kids you just don't.

762
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: Know Gino oriama, Said, Hey caitlin will be, fine but

763
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: give me a. Break she won't be that. Good, Well

764
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: gino knows basketball pretty well and he undervalued. Her when

765
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: you Watch Caitlin, clark what do you see? That you, Go,

766
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: wow that is. SPECIAL i mean she can shoot, obviously what? Else,

767
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: well she's a great pass. It she reminds me Of

768
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Steph curry When Steph curry came into the. League she's

769
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: doing what step did early. On she has unbelievable, range

770
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: she has great. Visions she's a terrific.

771
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 8: Passive you, know she's physically a little, weak but that's

772
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 8: that's she'll she'll get stronger as time goes. On but

773
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 8: she really understands how to, play and she reminds me

774
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 8: of a female version Of Steph curry incredible.

775
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: Range, yeah she really.

776
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: DOES i want to go back to THE. Nil here's

777
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: my only knock on THE, NIL a transfer. PORTAL i

778
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's the Wild Wild. WEST i don't. Think

779
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: my take is you should not be able to. Transfer

780
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: once you go to a school eighteen. Months can't. Transfer

781
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: everybody always, says, well the coaches. Leave no they. Don't,

782
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: no they coaches aren't leaving in the middle of a

783
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: coaches aren't leaving that. Much the bottom line is most

784
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: of you guys never want to. Leave the athletic director

785
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: asks you to. Leave so and also managers and let

786
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: my bosses have things At fox THAT i don't.

787
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: Get they.

788
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Should they're responsible For. Fox i'm just responsible for my.

789
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Show SO i do think coaches are different than. Players

790
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: but here's WHAT i don't like about THE nil is

791
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: That i'm not going to fight through. It louisville wants,

792
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: me they'll pay me. MORE i. DON'T i, MEAN i

793
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: look At Michael jordan's career and it's really steeped in failure,

794
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: early which makes him. Great THE nil worries me that

795
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: we're taking away the hurdling and the bulldozing of obstacles

796
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: that it's just easier to go make twice the. MONEY i,

797
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: mean because let's face, it if you play At syracuse

798
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: and they recruited, you you can go down a level

799
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: and get more money potentially because you're a great. Player

800
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: that part bothers. Me does it bother?

801
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: You? YEAH i think that's the that's the weakness IN.

802
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 8: Dnil, now during the, year we would meet with a

803
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 8: general manager and he would say to, me, yet this

804
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 8: young man is thinking of. TRANSFER i s wait a,

805
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 8: second It's january and the guy's killing. It he's having

806
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 8: a great. Season why would he think about. Transferring, well

807
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 8: he's just not. Happy he can make more money. Elsewhere

808
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 8: and that's the bad thing OF. Dnil it's so many

809
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 8: agents out there are negotiating during the year.

810
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 5: To get a player more.

811
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 8: Money and who's involved in this, NOW i will say,

812
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 8: this more so than any period of my fifty one

813
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 8: years in, COACHING i have never seen parents as involved

814
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 8: in this whole thing Like i'm seeing in the last

815
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 8: four to five. Years WHEN i first started recruiting thirty

816
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 8: forty years. Ago parents you go in the, home you meet,

817
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 8: them and that was the extent of after the campus,

818
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 8: visit parents were really in the. Background, today total. Opposite

819
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: the parents are on the forefront of. Everything and the

820
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 8: reason being the money is so substantial that now agents

821
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 8: handle is the. Parents everybody's involved in all of. This

822
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 8: it's never a. SITUATION i never have to go into

823
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 8: a home. Anymore they visit campus and you should see

824
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 8: the legions of people that come to these.

825
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Kids, yeah let me ask. You it's interesting about this

826
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: when when you look at this. DRAFT i said this,

827
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: earlier you can look at THE nfl and, go that's

828
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: a good draft because they're twenty three year. OLDS i

829
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: got four years of. TAPE i don't think we're ever

830
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna have great drafts. AGAIN i think we're gonna have

831
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: great prospects in the, draft Like Cooper. Flag but how

832
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: would you categorize if you were a scout in THE,

833
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: nba how would you categorize this? Draft can you have

834
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: a GREAT nba draft? Anymore with all the?

835
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 8: Youth, WELL i think this draft is not as strong as.

836
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 8: OTHERS i think this, draft certainly the players from duca.

837
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 8: TERRIFIC i look at how they can, contribute not only right,

838
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 8: away but down the road who has great. Upside and

839
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 8: there are players here that have, upside especially The european basketball.

840
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 8: Players for some, Reason france is now an untapped. Country

841
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 8: they are really developing outstanding basketball players and it's gotten very,

842
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 8: competitive and so you don't know about the foreign players

843
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 8: they come. In they may have more upside because they're

844
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 8: not seen as much as the college.

845
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Kids, yeah you threw out the first pitch At Yankee.

846
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Stadium if you were not a basketball, coach where is

847
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: baseball in your life right? Now were you a baseball?

848
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 5: Fan, WELL i grew.

849
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 8: UP i lived in The bronx in the summertime with my,

850
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 8: grandparents AND i would my two girl cousins WHO i

851
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 8: was about ten nine. Ten we would take one subway

852
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 8: stop to The Yankee stadium AND i would watch Man,

853
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 8: O maris Wow, Well Quebec Cleatis, Boyer Bobby, Richardson Moose,

854
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 8: scarett A Whitey ford on The. Mound and SO i

855
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 8: became a Huge yankee fan from those days as a,

856
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 8: youngster and Today I'M i bought four season tickets right

857
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 8: behind The yankee. Dugout is nothing better for me than

858
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 8: just sitting, there having a cold beer and watching the

859
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 8: plays At Yankee. Stadium it's it's really a great. Moment,

860
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 8: yeah you, know you can just sit there and relax and.

861
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Decompress, yeah every other sport has a certain level of,

862
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: urgency and baseball is the one that doesn't have the.

863
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: Clock AND i find myself when you go to a baseball,

864
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: game it feels. Different you can have a conversation with a.

865
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Friend just just make sure When Aaron judge comes, up

866
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: if he fouls one, off you're paying. Attention you know.

867
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: What you, know what's.

868
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 8: Funny WHEN i first broke in to, business THE nba

869
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 8: and THE nfl will like, This college football college basketball

870
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: were on equal. Terms, today THE nfl and college football

871
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 8: have just raised the boss so high that we're not

872
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 8: even in a Bad saturday college football game will outdraw.

873
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 5: AN nba playoff. Game.

874
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 8: Yeah so football has just reached a level where six

875
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 8: days a, week all the talk shows are just talking

876
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 8: about THE. Nfl And i'm sure the gambling component has

877
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 8: a lot to do with. It one game per, week

878
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 8: no question about.

879
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 5: It but the.

880
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 8: Popularity of football today just blows me away from where

881
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 8: it was thirty years.

882
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Ago you, KNOW i did you, know And i'll tell

883
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: you this AND i Told Adam silber, THIS i think

884
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: THE nba marginalized college. Basketball THE nfl is always, understood

885
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: it's best, friend it's ally is college. Football it micro

886
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: waves the. Stars AND i think and And i've Told adam,

887
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: this AND i Love, adam BUT i, thought it's LIKE

888
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: i went into THE G league And i'm like time.

889
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Out the coaching's better in. College the environments in college

890
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: get you ready for THE. Nba you go play At,

891
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: kentucky you go play At. Syracuse that's AN nba, environment

892
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: a playoff. Environment you don't get that in THE G.

893
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: League AND i THINK i think they found. OUT i

894
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: think they found out that college basketball That march. Tournament

895
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: it's free advertising and the coaching's. Better so if you

896
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: looked at the finals Rick oksee In, indy you know

897
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: you didn't SEE g. Leaguers it was actually not only college.

898
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Guys it Was Obie, toppins it WAS, tj it was

899
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: multiple years of college. BASKETBALL i thought THE Nba finals

900
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: was an advertisement for college, basketball AND i loved.

901
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 8: It, yeah And Adam silva is thinking about. IT i

902
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 8: heard him talk about it about going, global having A EuroLeague,

903
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 8: overseas AND i think that would be great because then

904
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 8: you could take your Young europeans or maybe college guys

905
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 8: that are, ready put them in a professional buying like

906
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 8: the Euro league is over, there and to get them

907
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 8: ready for THE. NBA i think it's something that we're

908
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 8: looking at down the.

909
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Road, rick what a real pleasure for Us you've. Got

910
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: you've got a mind that has rarely rivaled in your, sport, international, DOMESTIC,

911
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: nba AND i just appreciate you taking twenty. Minutes you're

912
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: a busy. Guy good luck To Saint. JOHN'S i FOUND

913
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: i said it last. YEAR i don't care who gets.

914
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: IN i Want Cooper, Flag Tom, izzo And Rick patino

915
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: in the final. Four whoever else makes, It i'm. GOOD

916
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: i was fascinated by your story and your team this

917
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: year with the incoming, class looks. Great so, Congrats thanks

918
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: so may thanks for having me you Bet Rick, patino

919
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: who is? TURNED i, mean, listen. Man Saint john's is

920
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: a great. Story they're playing at The. Garden you got

921
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: a great, coach he knows THE. Nba they've some of their,

922
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: boosters and they got a couple of boosters that got.

923
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Money Saint john's basketball is good for college. Basketball it

924
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: feels With patino in the. Garden it feels, big.

925
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: Big that was.

926
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Cool, yeah that guy knows his. Stuff that was.

927
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: Cool