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Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire. What Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: November sewo, I survived another one, folks. It was. It

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Speaker 1: was nerve racking. I'm not gonna lie to you. I

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Speaker 1: had the Chiefs and Survivor. You know, I already lost

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Speaker 1: to the Bengals in the Survivor person pool. Large payout

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter at home. They look so bad. But we

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Speaker 1: know this at this point, the chief stink right like

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Speaker 1: in danger of missing the playoffs. We were on that

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Speaker 1: last week. They look bad this week. Patrick Mahomes, the

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Speaker 1: book is out on how to stop my homes in

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't think I'm breaking any ground here, right,

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Speaker 1: We've covered this, and you just keep waiting for them

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you get handed a Rubik's cube

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Speaker 1: I know other people who are. It's frustrating to watch

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Speaker 1: the Rubik's cube. And right now, Patrick Mahomes cannot figure

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Speaker 1: out the defense. They are taking away the deep ball.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, we'll give you every single checkdown, and Mahomes

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Speaker 1: an embarrassment. I'm worried about the Kansas City Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: I know the schedule finally eases up, but folks, the

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Speaker 1: barely get out with a late field goal, Like, are

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? I just it's so funny. We get

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Speaker 1: this garbage Giants defense. Remember they had one explosive play

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Speaker 1: want to say, iss, Andy Reid lost it. I know

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Speaker 1: we I'm sure people right now are listening to this

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like it worked for three years?

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Speaker 1: They they are too full of themselves and and and

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Speaker 1: mediocre at best, because now you just look stupid, okay,

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly the problem. Like the thing about the Rams.

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Speaker 1: It's not a shortage of talent out there. It's that

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Speaker 1: not working and we need to do something a little

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Speaker 1: we're still the Chiefs. We do what we do. Good

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Speaker 1: What's the tandem? It's Jason Tatum and Anthony Davis. Oh

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, see how are you? How are you are?

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Speaker 1: You're giving Westbrook? Stop worrying about the logistics now you're

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Speaker 1: getting too deep, and just know that these things work

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Speaker 1: themselves out for Laker guys. All right, let's get back

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Speaker 1: to the NFL and Von Miller. Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 1: on the big Von Miller trade that shocked the NFL.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the thing that I love the most

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Speaker 1: about these NFL trades is they come out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: no advanced warning. Boom. Von Miller traded. There was not

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Speaker 1: a whiff that the Rams were smoking around, uh checking

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Speaker 1: out any defensive lineman. And it doesn't really get any

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Speaker 1: better than von Miller, who I know is a shell

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Speaker 1: of his former self due to injuries, didn't play last year.

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Speaker 1: He's the ankle this year. Suboptimal obviously, But the Rams

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Speaker 1: have a bye week coming up, and this isn't a

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Speaker 1: move to get von Miller for right now. This is

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Speaker 1: a playoff move because in the playoffs, you want Leonard

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Speaker 1: Floyd on one end, you have von Miller on the other,

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Speaker 1: and you want Aaron Donald in the middle. And basically

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Speaker 1: you have the makings, the makings not not facsimile of,

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Speaker 1: but Tampa Bay's nasty front last year that dominated the postseason,

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Speaker 1: including the Super Bowl when Patrick Mahomes was essentially running

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Speaker 1: for his life and they swallowed him up. That defensive

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Speaker 1: line won the game. You win the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: you win the game. And again von Miller Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: m v P five years ago. And you know he's

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Speaker 1: a little long in the tooth now, but you're not

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Speaker 1: expecting him to come in and dominate. He is, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, your third or fourth best defensive player. I

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Speaker 1: mean we know Ramsey and Donald are the top two.

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Speaker 1: Donald obviously one of the best defensive players in football,

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Speaker 1: and Leonard Floyd is really good on the edge. So

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Speaker 1: von Miller is the fourth guy you gotta worry about

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Speaker 1: on that defense. You're in great shape. So I heard

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Speaker 1: somebody compare this too. When Denver went out and added

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Speaker 1: de Marcus Ware in free agency. You guys remembered a

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Speaker 1: long time cowboy defensive end. Broncos get him. First year,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Second year he helps von Millery's on

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Speaker 1: the other end, and they get all the way to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and beat Caroline and Cam Newton in

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Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. I looked it up to Marcus Ware,

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Speaker 1: the old guy they signed a free agency to sacks,

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Speaker 1: two tackles for loss. Just a great signing, an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: coup for Denver at the time. And you wonder if

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Speaker 1: von Miller can have the same impact with the Rams

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Speaker 1: as DeMarcus where did I. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: will be identical, but I really think that this defense

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Speaker 1: is going to give quarterbacks problems. And there you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the NFC, it's loaded. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson's gonna make the playoffs, but we're almost

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Speaker 1: certain to see at some point the Rams against Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray for the third time this season. Um, Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Um, you keep going down the list, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many good quarterbacks in the NFC. I

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Speaker 1: think we gotta put Dak Prescott in that discussion. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Kirk Cousins is there. Sorry Kirk Cousins fans, um,

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Speaker 1: but by far, the quarterbacks in the NFC are vastly superior,

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Speaker 1: and their mobile Russell Wilson if they can get there,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray mobile, Aaron Rodgers can still win with his legs.

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Speaker 1: We know what Doc is capable of, so adding a

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Speaker 1: piece like von Miller is enormously uh effective for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: And I love the strategy of who cares about draft picks.

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Speaker 1: It's essentially they have learned from Lebron James, who in

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Speaker 1: the NBA like is like, what do we need draft

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Speaker 1: picks for? I don't win with young guys, they don't

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Speaker 1: win championships. We need veterans. And there the Rams basically

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Speaker 1: traded away a second and a third and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh jeez, that's a lot. Oh really a second and

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Speaker 1: a third. So the SIXTI pick ish and the nine

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Speaker 1: you pick ish for a Super Bowl m VP, who's

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Speaker 1: going to be like your number three defensive lineman? Really

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Speaker 1: that you gotta make that move every day of the week.

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Speaker 1: I love how they're playing win now. McVey wants that

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. He was closed with golf. They don't have

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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have any I think the last

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Speaker 1: first round pick they have on their roster was in

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe even before that. It's crazy how the

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Speaker 1: Rams are just dumping picks for players. It's really smart,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, you know what, Denver, you wanna

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Speaker 1: you wanna start your fire sale, now, go for it,

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Speaker 1: you know, Or you want to go get a bunch

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Speaker 1: of picks so you can trade for Aaron Rodgers, so

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Speaker 1: you could trade make a play for Deshaun Watson in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Go you could do that too. I do

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Speaker 1: wonder though, if it damages the Denver Broncos Psyche. For instance,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, they traveled to Dallas. Uh, let's see what

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Speaker 1: happens at the trade deadline today. But if Melvin Gordon

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Speaker 1: gets shipped out of town, it's like, oh jeez, we're

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Speaker 1: really not trying to win? Um does that creep into

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Speaker 1: the mindset? It all the way. It may or may

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Speaker 1: not have impacted the Houston Texans, who we knew already stunk.

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Speaker 1: But you just wonder what that locker room is like,

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Speaker 1: Like does Denver think, Man, we started the season so great,

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Speaker 1: we had so much, we have a nice win on

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Speaker 1: the road, and like, what's the deal? Or are we

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Speaker 1: are we toast? And do guys start doing the one

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Speaker 1: two three cancoon? Or is that an NBA thing? I

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Speaker 1: might be an NBA thing, but I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: if it happened in the NFL, because frankly, they know

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Speaker 1: they're going for a quarterback like Teddy bridge Water long

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Speaker 1: in the did I say long in the tooth? Already?

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Speaker 1: Another long in the tooth reference? Teddy Bridgewater is old.

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Speaker 1: Drew Lock stinks. It's probably gonna be a new regime,

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Speaker 1: might be a new owner. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: what Denver does going forward. It's it's odd how nobody

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Speaker 1: really cares about the Denver Broncos. They used to be

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Speaker 1: kind of a big deal with John Elway and then

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Speaker 1: they had Peyton for a minute and they were they

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Speaker 1: were kind of cool but other than that, like they've

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Speaker 1: they're just they don't have an identity, Like who's the

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Speaker 1: best player on the Denver Broncos now that von Miller's gone,

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton really Jerry Judy, he hasn't done anything yet.

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Speaker 1: Like I I just I'm not sure where they're going there.

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Speaker 1: They feel like a franchise perpetually stuck in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Not Portland's Trailblazers middle where they're at least making the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and maybe things break right they get to the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference finals. But these guys are stuck in like that.

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Speaker 1: Every year, they're in five and eleven to five and

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Speaker 1: eleven last year to like nine and eight ceiling, you know,

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Speaker 1: outside of until they get a quarterback, that's the zone

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be in. And that's kind of where my

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Speaker 1: Jets have been for about a decade and it stinks.

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Speaker 1: Although they're on the lower end of that scale more

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Speaker 1: two and fourteen, two seven and nine at best um,

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Speaker 1: but you don't want to be there. The middle is irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: At least at the top end you get draft picks.

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Speaker 1: At least at the um. At the top end you

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Speaker 1: are excited about, you know, college guys and and looking

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Speaker 1: at prospects, but like you know, it's not that exciting

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Speaker 1: to pick twelfth, although historically you know, over over time

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Speaker 1: usually that you know, third quarterback drafted ends up better

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Speaker 1: than the first quarterback drafted, um, which is just a weird,

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Speaker 1: quirky thing, but it happens. So anyways, congrats the Rams

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Speaker 1: on acquiring von Miller. I'm excited for the Rams, by

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're curious with their schedules, like coming

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Speaker 1: up Tennessee on Sunday night football Tennessee of course, just

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Speaker 1: having lost Derrick Henry, and then they traveled to San

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Speaker 1: France for a big one on Monday night football bye week,

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Speaker 1: and then they come out of the by and it's

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. So I we're gonna find a

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Speaker 1: lot out about the Rams, who, by the way, have

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Speaker 1: one win over a team with a winning record, as

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Speaker 1: we talked about on yesterday's podcast. So that's the von

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Speaker 1: Miller trade, and I guess that pretty much wraps up.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with the rest of the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: but I I'm not anticipating anything big. By the way,

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Speaker 1: make sure you listen tomorrow. We have an awesome guest

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Speaker 1: College football. College football rankings come out even if you're

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Speaker 1: not a huge college football guy, and I know something

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Speaker 1: you are because we saw the numbers on the Liner podcast.

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Speaker 1: They were good. A lot of listeners from Matt Liner

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Speaker 1: last week. If you missed that, check it out. We'll

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