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Speaker 1: you're not going to find it in a religion. Thomas

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Speaker 1: These people what were called free thinkers, like Freemasonry. These

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Speaker 1: people were set free from hundreds of years of religious

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Speaker 1: dogma because of the so called Enlightenment. And you know,

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Speaker 1: life is an experiment. When your daughter was young, when

435
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Speaker 1: she was crawling on the floor, did she put everything

436
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Speaker 1: in her mouth? She could have choked herself to death. Right,

437
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: So you took the things away from her. Correct. There

438
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Speaker 1: you go. That's all you need to know about human beings.

439
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: We're on an experiment. We'll put anything in our mouths,

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Speaker 1: even secular humanism, even things that are not good for us.

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Speaker 1: We'll try it because we're experimenting with consciousness. Let us

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Speaker 1: not be too judgmental of our brothers and sisters, and

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Speaker 1: let us ask them not to be too judgmental of

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Speaker 1: us because we don't have this figured out. We're working

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Speaker 1: on it, and politics is our barometer of where we

446
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Speaker 1: are in working such things out. I say this because

447
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Speaker 1: I really would like to see the Jews and the

448
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Speaker 1: Christians and Muslims, the believers of the state of Minnesota

449
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Speaker 1: and of this great country come together, not be divided.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have the Tower of Babel, right. God

451
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Speaker 1: made them speak many languages because they were building a

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Speaker 1: tower to Heaven to take They weren't just building there

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Speaker 1: for you know, it wasn't just a building operation for

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Speaker 1: a scenic overlook. They wanted to take over. That's human arrogance, right,

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Speaker 1: So God said, whoa, We got to make them speak

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Speaker 1: many different languages so they can't get organized. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, Lutherans a language, Protestants a language, Evangelical Christians

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Speaker 1: a language, Reform Jewish is a language. Let me just

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Speaker 1: talk about Jewish. I don't have to piss anybody off

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Speaker 1: except my own people, and they're already pissed off at me,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not making a mistake. There there's Reform Jews,

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Speaker 1: Conservative Jews, and Orthodox Jews, and within all three branches

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Speaker 1: of Judaism there are little sub branches, and there's one

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Speaker 1: thing that runs through the whole deal. They hate each other.

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Speaker 1: They say they don't, but when you're privately with them,

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Speaker 1: quietly in Yiddish, you should hear how those old timers

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Speaker 1: talk about those reformed Jews. You know what they call them?

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Speaker 2: Goya.

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Speaker 1: You know what goya means? No, it means not Jewish, what.

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Speaker 2: A simple word go.

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Speaker 1: That's what the You know. So when the Christian geneted

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Speaker 1: for Israel are hanging out with the black hats, when

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Speaker 1: the black hats go to the kosher restaurant or some

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Speaker 1: kindish bread and some tea, and they speak to each

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Speaker 1: other and you're Yiddish, they go, oh, shuts them, goham,

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Speaker 1: they're not very And I can only say this because

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Speaker 1: I've been in those conversations. I mean I've been there.

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Speaker 1: I was younger looking at the old rabbis going wow.

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Speaker 1: And then of course black people. Schwartzes. You ever heard

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Speaker 1: that one? No, Schwartz's doesn't even sound good, does it.

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't sound I don't think shkutson sounds good either,

483
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Speaker 1: does it. These is because these are not nice words,

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Speaker 1: but they're Yiddish words and you don't know them. But

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Speaker 1: they don't like reformed Jews, but they would never admit

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Speaker 1: it out loud, and they're going to be mad at

487
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Speaker 1: me for someone might jump up and say that's not true.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably get somebody in the live chat or in

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Speaker 1: the comments that says you're wrong, that's not true, And

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say for you, thank God, you've such

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Speaker 1: a wonderful ecumenical experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's similar with un Christians too, because I remember when

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Speaker 3: I was younger going to a Lutheran church and my

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Speaker 3: great grandma, who is Catholic, was not too happy and

496
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Speaker 3: very verbal about it.

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Speaker 2: So just talk.

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Speaker 1: I just talked about my step son. I took him

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Speaker 1: to a Lutheran service just last Christmas. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: to leave. He's a Catolic, he's Catholic. Yeah, and man,

501
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: he was sitting there the church was jabbed. I was

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Speaker 1: invited by mister Stan Hamilton, the chief executive of the

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Speaker 1: CD three executive board, he's the boss. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was so nice, because you know Stan just had, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: just beat me in the contest to be CD three king. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he invited me because he wants to have a

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Speaker 1: relationship with me. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't dislike Stand. In fact, I like him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it isn't Stand the one we have a short of

510
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Speaker 3: him talking yes, yes, ten thousand stands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more stands.

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Speaker 1: We need more stands. That's right, Go find the short

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Speaker 1: that was long before Stand invited me to church. Because

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Speaker 1: some of us understand the importance of speaking eloquently one

515
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Speaker 1: to another, even though we disagree. Stan and I never

516
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Speaker 1: have had a cross word with each other, and why

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Speaker 1: should we. I mean, my goodness, gracious, if we're going

518
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: to start to speak ugly to each other, we're not

519
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Speaker 1: going to get anything done. I want to convince him,

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00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: and he wants to convince me. No. I know we

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Speaker 1: have a young superstar politician here on this channel that

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Speaker 1: doesn't see it quite that way. We'll see aw he

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Speaker 1: sees it when he's sixty six years old. Because when

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Speaker 1: I was thirty three, I was prone to get into fights.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just don't do that anymore. I don't

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Speaker 1: fight every fight. It doesn't mean in my heart of hearts.

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Speaker 1: I'm confused about who these people are and what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: But like a religion, politics is about seeking converts. See

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Speaker 1: we're told religion and politics is two separate issues. They

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Speaker 1: actually do the exact same things, right, Like, don't Lutherans

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Speaker 1: want more Lutherans? Don't Republicans want more Republicans?

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00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you know these political movements, what's the best way

534
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: to lead from behind? Get a bunch of politicians to

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Speaker 1: run out front and front for you. Because what we're

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Speaker 1: doing here right now is religious. We have a group

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Speaker 1: of people that do not believe in God, and they

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Speaker 1: run our government. They're called secular humanists. They're yeshiva or

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Speaker 1: their seminary is called the university, and that's where they

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Speaker 1: are taught the language of science, the rituals of science,

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Speaker 1: the great men of science, science which does not believe

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Speaker 1: in God. Individual scientists might, but the discipline itself says,

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Speaker 1: if you can't prove it, it doesn't exist. Do you

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Speaker 1: agree with that statement. I'm sure somebody is going to

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Speaker 1: disagree with me. That's my layman's believe. If you can't

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Speaker 1: find it, if you can't prove it, if you can't

547
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: and you can't study God. I mean he might show

548
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: up if he wanted to be sure could and then OK,

549
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: what are we going to do with science? Then? But

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Speaker 1: this is secular This is secular humanism. This is taking

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Speaker 1: human experience out of the context of a religious tradition,

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Speaker 1: of religious culture in creating a new culture, a new culture.

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Speaker 1: And it comes right from the Enlightenment, right for the

554
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Speaker 1: search for freedom. Because if we're free, you know the

555
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: good Satanists will say, why would you have any limits

556
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Speaker 1: on you? If you're free, you could do anything. Doesn't

557
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: that feel good? Wait a second, am I getting tricked?

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. Who's this God that's

559
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Speaker 1: putting rules on me? If I'm really free, if I

560
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Speaker 1: really have unalienable rights to life and to liberty and

561
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Speaker 1: my pursuit of happiness, that almost sounds satanic writ in

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Speaker 1: our phoning documents, there's nothing else in there about what

563
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Speaker 1: the life, deliberty in the pursuit of happiness is related to.

564
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: If they're just unelim the rights. In other words, these

565
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: people were so bad ass that made this text these texts.

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Speaker 1: They said, Hey, if you want to be a Satanist,

567
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Speaker 1: go for it. If you want to be Thomas Payne

568
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Speaker 1: and basically tongue in cheeks say come on, Mary, come on,

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Speaker 1: come on. I mean, that's the fundamental of the faith.

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Speaker 1: When you start pulling on that one, and he even says,

571
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go find it. He said that

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Speaker 1: such things were common in the era, in that pagan era,

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Speaker 1: that frequently God's made it with women and their children

574
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Speaker 1: were divine. And he's correct. I mean his critique. If

575
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Speaker 1: you want to go read Pain on Religion, his critique

576
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: is so correct it's a little scary, and I think

577
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: we need to be scared. This whole issue of religion

578
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: and politics is as screwed up as the issues of

579
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Speaker 1: men and women. You know. Why do we know it's

580
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: screwed up because over half of the marriages ended in divorce.

581
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Speaker 1: So people don't have a common language to move forward

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Speaker 1: in the fundamental building block of a religious community, which

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Speaker 1: would be the family. Wait a second, I'm losing myself here.

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Speaker 1: You mean the fundamental building block of a religious community

585
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Speaker 1: isn't working, Must not have common goals, must not have

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Speaker 1: a common language. Wait a second, Wait a second. Back

587
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: to Adam and Eve. Wait wait, wait, wait. The Ydnamic

588
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Speaker 1: curse for women you'll have pain in childbirth. Ooh, that's intense.

589
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: That's very intense, not very nice. And you will cleave

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Speaker 1: to your man and he shall rule over you. Ladies,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? That could be a

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Speaker 1: reason not to believe, because who wants to buy into

593
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Speaker 1: a system where you're going to be ruled over like

594
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Speaker 1: you're in bondage? Boy, there's some real issues to go

595
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Speaker 1: through here, Isn't there confusing? Of course? See you now,

596
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this stuff all my life. I

597
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: got to figure it out for me. Maybe I'll be

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Speaker 1: elected president someday because I'm able to articulate this in

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Speaker 1: a way that works for everyone. See, we have to

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Speaker 1: find a way to unify now, to understand these issues

601
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Speaker 1: in a new way. Haven't you had enough of being

602
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: stuck on this cross a wall the last since nineteen

603
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Speaker 1: seventy three? Isn't this long enough to be hung up

604
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: on this rover is weighed in this abortion wedge issue?

605
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Speaker 1: Hasn't this lasted long enough? All this human suffering, all

606
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Speaker 1: these divorces, all this divorce court family court stuff, all

607
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: these hurt children. Hasn't this gone long enough? And now

608
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: we've got a whole new class of crazy things going on.

609
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Speaker 1: We're experimenting what could be a greater experiment than see

610
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Speaker 1: if a man can go in for a gender transition surgery.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how it turns out. It's an experiment, after all. Remember,

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Speaker 1: medicine is both a science and an art. You know,

613
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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're paying something doesn't turn out too good,

614
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Speaker 1: you just rip it up and throw it away. And

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Speaker 1: that's what consciousness is, and that's what religion is. Religion

616
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: is a way of organizing our consciousness. So I'm bringing

617
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Speaker 1: up a lot of questions because we have a very

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Speaker 1: divided community of believers who are confronted with artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 1: which is a god in and of itself because it

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Speaker 1: has superhuman powers and people worship it and are looking

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Speaker 1: forward to solve all of humanity, all of humanity's problems.

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Speaker 1: If we have a new religion around super intelligence, super

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, if their new religion is springing up because

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Speaker 1: of science, which I'm going to say it certainly is,

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Speaker 1: or as Tanner said, around money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could even say I might be wrong about this,

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Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure it wasn't science kind of made

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Speaker 3: by the church. They were the ones that kind of

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Speaker 3: started investing in the idea of science as a way

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Speaker 3: of like proving the design of God. So couldn't you

631
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Speaker 3: argue that the religion of science is just a branch

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Speaker 3: from Christianity.

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Speaker 1: You could, Yeah, you wouldn't be able to argue it

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Speaker 1: for very long. No, but you could start down the road.

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Speaker 1: And there is, and still to this day, a science

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Speaker 1: there is a group of scientists and scientific research that,

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Speaker 1: like a Deist, like Deism, sees the hand of God

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Speaker 1: in the natural world, and that scientific research is revealing

639
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Speaker 1: God in the natural world through research. I think it

640
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Speaker 1: was Einstein who said I've pulled back the veil and

641
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Speaker 1: I see God through mathematics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't know. I guess I would

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Speaker 3: fall probably around a little bit Deism in my beliefs

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Speaker 3: because I do believe that the natural way does show

645
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Speaker 3: the math. Essentially, like a student when you're doing a test,

646
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: you have to show your math or show your work.

647
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: When we go into science and we see all like

648
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: the golden ratio numbers, the Fibonacci cycle, there's patterns that

649
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: you can see the math, you can see the work,

650
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Speaker 3: and to me, that proves that there's a divine being

651
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Speaker 3: designing it.

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Speaker 1: The entire Asian core philosophy yin yan is an observation

653
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Speaker 1: of the natural world, so that old people can teach

654
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Speaker 1: young people to lessen they're suffering about how the natural

655
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: world works in those patterns with constants, and that is

656
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: a kind of a divinity. And so we have to

657
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: understand the secular and the religious and how that's going

658
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Speaker 1: to work in our country. Because in the three minutes

659
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Speaker 1: of this fifteen minute preamble that went for forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: my problem in working with you, because there are people

661
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: that work with me that watch this. My problem is

662
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: in politics, there's no discipline, there's no follow through, not none,

663
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: but very little, a lot of talking, very little action,

664
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: and not a lot of common investment in what to

665
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: do next and why to do it next. Religion makes

666
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: a very convenient way to organize political activity. That's why

667
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: the left is so nervous about white Cristo nationalism because really,

668
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Speaker 1: and as we've said in some recent podcasts, our entire

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Speaker 1: foreign policy is run by an eschatological apocalyptic worldview, which

670
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Speaker 1: means our whole country is still being run out of

671
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: that religious frame. Yet we take no responsibility for it.

672
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: We say we're secular humanist in our government. And now

673
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: President Trump is saying now that let's just knock off

674
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Speaker 1: the bs. Actually, the government is religious right now. It's

675
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Speaker 1: anti religious, has been for decades. I mean, obviously, if

676
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Speaker 1: you're going to legalize a woman's right to choose, that

677
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: would be anti religious to do that. We just don't

678
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: talk that way. I mean, we have other ways of

679
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: talking about it. But when you legalize gambling and legalized prostitution,

680
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: and legalize drug use and legalize this, that does and

681
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Speaker 1: so you're really critiquing the fundamentals of the old texts. Okay,

682
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Speaker 1: let's get off of this now. Let's start a movement

683
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Speaker 1: where we try to transcend this gap and start to

684
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Speaker 1: develop a language and way of talking to each other

685
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Speaker 1: which unites the various schools of faith, because we're facing

686
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Speaker 1: something that is utterly faithless and uncompromising with us. In

687
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: all of this Trump era softening, it's just a distraction

688
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: that AI is coming, those robots are coming, that biotechnology

689
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: is coming right now, and we're going to have to

690
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: make a decision as people, do we want to be

691
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Speaker 1: ruled by that technology or are we going to rule

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Speaker 1: over it? And the only way we're going to rule

693
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Speaker 1: over it is if we stop these divisions and unify

694
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Speaker 1: politically and get involved in politics. And this is the rub.

695
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: When we get involved in politics, what is going to

696
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: organize our behavior because we're ineffective because nothing is organizing

697
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: it except conflict. No, we're going to have to organize

698
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Speaker 1: around a set of beliefs which move us forward together.

699
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Speaker 1: The Left's not going to like hearing it. But guess what,

700
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: they don't have anything to organize them to move forward together.

701
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: They don't have it. Have it? We do? So our

702
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: greatest strength to organize, which is our faith, we're blocked

703
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: from using it because of the separation of church and state,

704
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: which is just words on a page. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that we establish a state religion. I'm saying that the

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Speaker 1: people that get involved in politics, let us find a

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Speaker 1: common language and set of beliefs that we can use

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Speaker 1: to carry us forward. And let us be uncompromising in

709
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Speaker 1: our pursuit of that new language and that new unity,

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Speaker 1: that unity that can unify the city in the country,

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Speaker 1: that can unify the people that have nothing, because that's

712
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: what we got. Nothing. Yeah, you might have a house

713
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: with a mortgage, or an apartment or you might own

714
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: a car, you got something, but compared to the people

715
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Speaker 1: that are really having something, we all got nothing. That's

716
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: what we got nothing. And you know it says in

717
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: the end, the meek shall inherit the earth. Now, when

718
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: you say meek, a lot of ways to talk about

719
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: the word meek, it might just mean the people that

720
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Speaker 1: don't have anything. In the end, unify through the precinct strategy.

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Speaker 1: Unify through a new language of communication. Get involved in politics,

722
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Speaker 1: join your party, and start to endorse an elect people

723
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: that will not sell out. I don't want to hear

724
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Speaker 1: that they swear or that they got this or they

725
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: got that. Because we got five hundred and thirty five

726
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: sellouts in the Congress. Well not every one of them.

727
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's a few, but when it's six point

728
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: nine million per seed per year, easy to sell out

729
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: with that kind of lobby money washing around. So we

730
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Speaker 1: need a new language, We need a new way of

731
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Speaker 1: doing things. We need a new way of getting together,

732
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Speaker 1: and we need to transcend the divisions which are being

733
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Speaker 1: exploited by those who are doing a very effective job

734
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Speaker 1: of ruling over us. Let's play number one.

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Speaker 2: Please Russia, you never come back to the West.

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Speaker 5: As it was never again, sorry to say that I'm

737
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 5: not happy with that because Russia is too close to Hungary,

738
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Speaker 5: you know, and the Ukraine and the problem what is

739
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: basically again the problem. You know, the Russians accepted ah

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Speaker 5: in a very difficult way, that central European countries like

741
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: my whole Hungary became member of NATO. They always criticized

742
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Speaker 5: that move, saying that it's unfair because it was promised.

743
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Speaker 5: Nobody knows exactly whether it did it happen or not,

744
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Speaker 5: but it was promised that the ex Soviet Union dominated

745
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Speaker 5: territories we're not joined NATO.

746
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Speaker 2: What we did good for us anyway.

747
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Speaker 5: And then the Russians started to live with that. In

748
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Speaker 5: that concept, Ukraine was the buffer zone between NATO and Russia.

749
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Speaker 5: And then now as we started to incorporate more and

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Speaker 5: more Ukraine, first at the military level, developing their army,

751
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Speaker 5: then even at the diplomatic level to speak about the

752
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Speaker 5: member possible membership of Ukraine to NATO, we converted the

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Speaker 5: buffer zone into.

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Speaker 2: A war zone.

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Speaker 5: So it's not anymore a buffer zone.

756
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Speaker 2: That's the problem.

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Speaker 5: Uh. And this history is not it's not about one

758
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: or two decades issue.

759
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Speaker 2: So how we.

760
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Speaker 5: Imagine the territory between the NATO and Russia, how we

761
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Speaker 5: call it and how to manage it, how we provide

762
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Speaker 5: the future for the people and the territory. So these

763
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Speaker 5: are the real, big and difficult challenges ahead of us.

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Speaker 5: When we say, you know, when we jumped into the war,

765
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Speaker 5: that that was all sorry. That was always my argument

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Speaker 5: to the Westerners that don't consider that war as our

767
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Speaker 5: own war. It's not a war of the West. It's

768
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Speaker 5: a war between two Slavic nations, a brutal but a

769
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Speaker 5: broad yourhood war Russians and Ukrainians. Isolate them, have them,

770
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 5: but don't say that this is our war. That's exactly

771
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Speaker 5: what you have done basically by them. President came to

772
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Speaker 5: Warsaw and said, pushin must fail.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 5: It means that you are in the war.

775
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Speaker 2: So why we have done it.

776
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Speaker 5: Nobody knows the answer of.

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Speaker 2: That, you know.

778
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Speaker 5: So it was a very short sighted idea. Probably they

779
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Speaker 5: thought that they could make weekend Russia. I was always

780
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Speaker 5: show the very first moment that the war will make

781
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Speaker 5: Russia stronger than it was prior to the war. That's

782
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Speaker 5: our history, First World ward, Second World War. When they

783
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Speaker 5: start the war, they are weaker as the war is

784
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Speaker 5: going ahead, I.

785
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Speaker 2: Got you strong, restrong, grandstronger.

786
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Speaker 5: That's the lesson of the hunger and history.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is about as clear a explanation of this

788
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Speaker 1: situation as I've ever run across.

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Speaker 2: And that's the Prime Minister of Hungry.

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Speaker 1: And Victor Orban, Victor Orbin. Incredible, the two antagonists, the

791
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: brothers that are at war with each other in this

792
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: brutal Slavic war. They're talking in Istanbul, Turkey. Nothing much

793
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: is coming to the talks, but another pow swap was

794
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: agreed upon. President Trump said that in fifty days he

795
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Speaker 1: was going to impose secondary sanctions on Russia. He says

796
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Speaker 1: he's very unhappy with Vladimir Putin's in calcitrans In setting

797
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: up the conditions for a true a ceasefire. And he

798
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: came out yesterday he said, Man, I know what the

799
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: result is going to be. I'm not waiting fifty days.

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Speaker 1: Ten days from now, I'm imposing secondary sanctions. This is

801
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: a bombshell. I don't know where Trump's heading with this one,

802
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: but he's putting a lot of pressure here now on

803
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Russia and India in China to discontinue their trade in

804
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: oil and that oil that India and China buy from

805
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Russia keeps the Russians in the game. And what Trump

806
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: is saying is, if keep this up, you want to

807
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: sell into the United States, India and China, it's one

808
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: hundred percent tax. In other words, the end of the road. Well,

809
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Speaker 1: that'll be the end of the road of a lot

810
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: of things. So he's trying to create divisions within the

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Speaker 1: bricks Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, a new political union.

812
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: He's trying to divide the center of it Russia, China, India.

813
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: He's trying to get the Indians at least to pull

814
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: out in hopes that they're going to achieve an economic

815
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: benefit from the United States. He's trying to push the

816
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Speaker 1: Russians to the negotiating table. Carrots and sticks. The United States,

817
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: for the first time in fifteen years, are prepositioning nuclear

818
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: weapons in England. Carrots and sticks. We can do a

819
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: lot of business together and all die together. Make a

820
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: decision and live with your decision. Wow. Germany has agreed

821
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Speaker 1: to send five more batteries of Patriot anti aircraft missiles

822
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Speaker 1: to the Ukraine. They're running a little bit short supply.

823
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Those patriots. They're going to have a good eating at

824
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Speaker 1: Patriot Factory for many years to come. Let's play number

825
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Speaker 1: two as a transition to talking a little bit about

826
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Speaker 1: the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Who are we? What is wrong with us?

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Speaker 6: What is going on?

829
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Speaker 7: We are witnessing before our very eyes, mister speaker, genocide,

830
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 7: genocide in Gaza, and we say nothing.

831
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Speaker 2: I am amazed at how.

832
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Speaker 7: This country that stands for liberty and justice for all,

833
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 7: this country that has a statue of liberty, how this

834
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Speaker 7: country can see what's happening in Gaza and not call

835
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Speaker 7: it what it is. There's a fear among us. We

836
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 7: refuse to speak truth too. We refused to speak to

837
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 7: about power. Well today I'm gonna do it, and I'm

838
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 7: doing it because these are precious babies that are being slaughtered.

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Speaker 1: That is Congressman Al Green. I think he's from the

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Speaker 1: Houston area in Texas. I have a few comments about

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Speaker 1: this number one. What a speech. Number two that Cane.

842
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Speaker 3: I know, Wow, it's so striking, and I can't help

843
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: but think he like looks at himself in the mirror

844
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: and he's like Abraham Lincoln has his hat, George Washington

845
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: has the curly hair that I'm gonna be the cane guy.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if some kind of long knife comes out

847
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: of that cane. You can pull that top out and

848
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: there's a weapon there, like they used to have in

849
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: the old days. But that cane is bad ass.

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, it's so badass. I would have a cane

851
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: like that too.

852
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Speaker 1: It is so fad. But what's really interesting about al Green?

853
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Speaker 1: Put up this next picture from the Pro Life America.

854
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Al Green's talking about the precious babies, but according to

855
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Speaker 1: the Pro Life of America, he is rating on babies's

856
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Speaker 1: f So when it comes to settler colonialism and issues

857
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: of discrimination and whites and blacks and all that liberation theology,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the sacred babies being killed

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Speaker 1: by the Israelis in Gaza. But when it comes right

860
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Speaker 1: here to our own home, Pro Life says he gets

861
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Speaker 1: an f for fail. But I wasn't satisfied with that.

862
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to go the other way. Put up the

863
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Speaker 1: next picture. Here's reproductive freedom for all. This is the

864
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Speaker 1: other side of the football.

865
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Speaker 2: The pro.

866
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: Freedom of Choice movement. They give him one hundred out

867
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Speaker 1: of one hundred. So when it comes to American babies,

868
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: that's not really his concern. I think that's very interesting.

869
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: So what we have here is not an issue of faith,

870
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: not an issue of philosophy, but an issue of politics.

871
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: What a great way to organize my constituents in my

872
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: community who are mostly black and create division with Jews

873
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: who seem to be mostly white, and to use it

874
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: as an issue of discrimination and of settler colonialism as

875
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: black people suffered the foundational Black Americans. They were brought here,

876
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: not consensually. They're brought here by slaves. So they're drawing

877
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: a connection between the experience of the black American and

878
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: experience of the Palestinian. And we're using sacred babies as

879
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: the totem, except not that sacred. So this is a

880
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: very interesting politic that's going on in our country. And

881
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: young people like Tanner. Tanner, are people your age supportive

882
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: of Israel?

883
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: No?

884
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: No, it's pretty scary how my friend or my colhort

885
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: kind of talk about Israel right now.

886
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it.

887
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, it's it's scary to me because.

888
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: I I just as a kid learning the history, I

889
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: showed a lot of pride in America because I was, like,

890
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, besides all the people that are like, oh,

891
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: we're so full of rasist And I knew that they

892
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: were individual racist, but I was just so proud of

893
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: America that we had moved past it. And then to

894
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: see that times get a little tough, and now there's

895
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: so much anti so quickly, so much anti Semitism.

896
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Blame it on the Jews, and it's gonna it's blame it,

897
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: Blame it, Ontidius.

898
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: It's terrible.

899
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: See I even I can do it. It works, it's

900
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: it works very easily, rolls off the tongue. It's like

901
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: mother's milk. And of course Israel has lost its mind.

902
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: They're widening, their military offense have been the central Gaza.

903
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I get a lot of criticism from Jews that come.

904
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: I was even mentioned on Acts with Alex Jones and

905
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: Owen Schreier, and the guy wrote in for all you

906
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: people that are continuously criticized in Israel, why don't you

907
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: talk about Islamic socialism? And I wanted to respond, but

908
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: in that group of various steam podcasters, I'm just a

909
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: tail on the dog on that deal. Nobody responded, so

910
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: I didn't respond, but I wanted to say, we just

911
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: covered it last week about Islamic socialism. We're right there.

912
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: So if you're watching me, go back and watch last week.

913
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: We covered it extensively. I am covering Islamic socialism and

914
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: the threat that it plays to our republican form of government.

915
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: We talked about it directly. But Israel is continuing to

916
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: prosecute its war in the Gazam and it's got that

917
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: new humanitarian city it's putting together great and more aid

918
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: groups are warning of starvation in Gazam. Between ten and

919
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the population are alleged to be starving.

920
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm not there again. Hearsay hearsay, hearsay here say you

921
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: hear it, and you say it, and then it becomes

922
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: the truth. Isn't that great? Just like Ms Pain was

923
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: talking about the Virgin Mary, we got some problems with

924
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: our epistemology. You know what I believe. What I believe

925
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: I believe for myself because it works for me. What

926
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: I also believe is that works for me can be

927
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: taught as a system of becoming, and that system is

928
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: taught in secret societies all over the world. It's just

929
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: not taught to you. I learned it because I've been

930
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: a product of several secret societies. I've said that, people

931
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: are going to say I'm a Mason or something. Now

932
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: when I talk like this, people get nervous.

933
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Speaker 2: No.

934
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: No, I was raised in an Orthodox Jewish culture. That's

935
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: a secret society with secret knowledge. I walked out of

936
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: that thing when they didn't have the secret knowledge that

937
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: I needed at the time, like how do I keep

938
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: from dying? Do what your doctor tells you? Hey, I'm out.

939
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Speaker 1: That's not a secret. I can read that out a

940
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Speaker 1: box of post hosties. And then I went into others

941
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: secret societies, seeking knowledge, to search for truth. You know,

942
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: every one of our schools, every public school, could be

943
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: not a secret society, but a place where the really

944
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: important issues of life are taught, like how to compress morbidity.

945
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm an advocate for people need to be taught how

946
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: to make a fire, just a little campfire.

947
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: That's the most essential book ever.

948
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, how about harvested deer?

949
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? That too.

950
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: Guns, I bet you a lot of I mean, if

951
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: you look at a lot of the gun deaths in America,

952
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: third place is accidental deaths. And I really feel like

953
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: if we made a common thing to teach gun safety

954
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: in schools, you would see a huge drop in those deaths.

955
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: You're bringing up something that I'm really you know, I'm

956
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: you know you doom scroll right on acts.

957
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

958
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: And then they have these people where they shoot themselves

959
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: with no gun safety. Yeah, and I saw a couple

960
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: shorts like that. I can't watch it anymore.

961
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: It happens, but it's because, I mean, what do you expect.

962
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: We have kids playing Fortnite, which like fun game. I

963
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: don't play it myself. But when we are raised in

964
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: a culture where guns are such a prevalent thing, but

965
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 3: then nobody has a clue how to actually use it.

966
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, accidents are going to happen.

967
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, if you've never had a gun or you

968
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: have one for the first time. Let me dispel this accident.

969
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: Don't point your gun in anything you don't plan to kill.

970
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: When you make that kind of your fundamental because you

971
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: know it's got two ads, so you have to actually

972
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: point it at yourself, which I'm not going to delve

973
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: into it by being judgmental. Keep the business sand pointed

974
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: away from you and anybody else that's living and breathing,

975
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: and we won't have any accidents.

976
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

977
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: When I was in gun safety, the first rule they

978
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: ever taught us was treat every gun as if it's loaded.

979
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to go that far. Yeah, just

980
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: going to say, don't point in anything if you don't

981
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: want to kill it. It's kind of the same thing,

982
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: but a little different. Meanwhile, while people are starving, allegedly,

983
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: the Israeli connested on this past Wednesday, Past the nine

984
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: a non binding resolution that calls for the annexation of

985
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: the occupied West Bank by a vote of seventy one

986
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: to thirteen. In other words, they're testing it out before

987
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: they do it for real. So if anybody wants to

988
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: say that Israel is on a path to expand its territory,

989
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: well that one's written down. It's not hearsay. Meanwhile, France

990
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: has announced that it will recognize the Palestinian state. Yes,

991
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: President Matt Crone came out this last week and said

992
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: at the next meeting of the United Nations, France will

993
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: throw in with those countries that want a two state solution. Meanwhile,

994
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: while we're in the neighborhood, Iran acknowledge the US airstriks

995
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: have destroyed their nuclear facilities, but not their will to

996
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: do nuclear research. Yes, they said quite directly, they've been

997
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: set back, but their nuclear program lies not in the ruins,

998
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: but in the hearts and minds of their scientists. I

999
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: guess that's why Israel assassinates as many as they can

1000
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: get their bullets into. Trump. President Trump came out and

1001
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: said that if Iran pops up again with this nuclear ambition,

1002
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: Iran will get bombed once again if necessary. And in

1003
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: response to that, Iran's president Masud Pezeshkian. I love reading

1004
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: that name, Pezeshkian. The fact that they can even read

1005
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: names like that makes me feel like a native. Masud

1006
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: Pazshkian has said his country remains prepared and vigilant for

1007
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: any war Israel might launch against it, while convening that

1008
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: he is not optimistic about the ceasefire, continuing to hold quote,

1009
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: we are fully prepared for any new Israeli military move

1010
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: and our armed forces are ready to strike deep inside

1011
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Israel once again. Possession told Al Jazeera in a fresh interview. Well, uh,

1012
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, piece, sometimes just a period of rearmament. Meanwhile,

1013
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: there's been a huge spate of mystery fires and explosions

1014
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: throughout Iran, which are almost certainly Israeli sponsored sabotage. Let's

1015
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: play number three and go on to a happier.

1016
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 8: Note, I do know that the tariffs, the cost of

1017
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 8: tariffs on automobiles, which will begin I don't know August

1018
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 8: first or whatever, will be paid by people like me,

1019
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 8: the consumer. The question is does the president realize the

1020
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 8: consumer pays the tariffs?

1021
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to have to disagree agree with that

1022
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 4: is who pays. The terrace is a choice, and what

1023
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: we've seen thus far is that the manufacturers are eating

1024
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: a substantial portion of the terrace and taking it into

1025
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 4: their profit margins. So you might see, for instance, Toyota

1026
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 4: hasn't raised prices and they may choose to go for

1027
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 4: market share rather than raising prices.

1028
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: Could you please put up the tiregit put up tire get.

1029
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: And this is something that I'm going to do because

1030
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: I forget to do it. We're in the tire business.

1031
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: And I say this because it's really noteworthy. The only

1032
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the consumer tires that you put

1033
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: on your vehicles are built here in the United States.

1034
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: In fact, we impoort tires that are up on the

1035
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: Tiregate website a brand called advantage of brand called Achilles.

1036
01:05:54,360 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: These are no name brands built overseas in foreign owned factories.

1037
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: And the quality of these tires is sensational, the quality

1038
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: of these low cost tires. If people go, I don't

1039
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: want to buy low cost tires, they're no good, all

1040
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: of them tires working. Then I sold you there were

1041
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: low cost Tanner.

1042
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: And card's driving.

1043
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: No problems, right, no problem, good traction in the winner,

1044
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: It's all good in the hood, right yeah, Okay, These

1045
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: tires are just as good as anything you could pay

1046
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: three times as much for. And they're imported. And I'm

1047
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: going to tell you, when you need you tires, go

1048
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: to tire get dot com and what you're going to

1049
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: find there is a deal. And I'm going to tell

1050
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: you I import tires. I have to because only twenty five

1051
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: percent of the tires I sell are manufactured in this

1052
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: great country. The price increased. President Trump's tax on consumer

1053
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: tires is are you ready? Twenty five percent? Twenty five percent?

1054
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Under a Section two thirty two Investigation and Order, there

1055
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: is a twenty five percent tax on all consumer tires.

1056
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent. Did I make that clear? The price

1057
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: of tires went up six percent? So what Scott Best

1058
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: and Treasury Secretary is saying that the manufacturers are absorbing

1059
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: large parts of this large percentages of these tariffs and

1060
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: reducing their profit margins. Or President Trump says, China's going

1061
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: to pay for it. It's not untrue. They're not paying

1062
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: for all of it, but they're paying for most of it.

1063
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: Now will that be this way over the long period

1064
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: of time. I don't know. I don't know how this

1065
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: is going to play out, and neither does anybody else.

1066
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Speaker 3: I think the most important thing that he said that

1067
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: I feel like so even the comments on this X post,

1068
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 3: so many people are not talking about his first thing.

1069
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: Who pays the tariffs is a choice, and you have

1070
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: it on the news. That matters. You vote with your money.

1071
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, why are we sitting here?

1072
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that tires are so essential to

1073
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: our life, so that can be an argument, but it's

1074
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: our choice. If it's too high, don't pay for it.

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Speaker 3: That's bargaining. Then that company is going to sit there

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Speaker 3: and go, well, we got to make money somehow. Let's

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Speaker 3: lower the cost lit bit. We'll eat a little bit

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Speaker 3: of the tariffs. It is our choice. If you don't

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Speaker 3: want to pay that, or if whatever your margarita maker

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Speaker 3: is now so expensive, don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this is the great fear now that higher

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Speaker 1: prices will lead to less economic activity. Therefore our GDPR

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Speaker 1: gross domestic product might not grow. And you know what

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: they really say it if it doesn't grow, there's less debt.

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: And if there's less debt, the whole system collapses upon itself.

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01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: Our system is debt based, It is based on the

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01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: continuous issuance of debt. If there's less activity and there's

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: less debt, the whole system could crumble. They have turned

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Speaker 1: us into consumers and economic units to be exploited. What

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Speaker 1: Tanner is saying is just don't do it. Don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't take a walk in the park instead of buying

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: the marguerite ice maker at Costco. You don't need an

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: marguerite ice makers. It is a choice. And here's what's

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: happening right now in the tire business. Because this I

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: know the manufacturers eight about half of the twenty five percent.

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: The steamship companies lowered their price, We lowered our margin.

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Everybody got lower in margin to make the increase to

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: offset that twenty five percent. Six percent is not a

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Speaker 1: day killer in the tire business. And if you need tires,

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: you go to tire get Man. You'll save a ton

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: of money because we keep the price right, because we

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: know you have to have the right price, so bestent

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: is correct. And we are living in a moment where

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: Wall Street's getting used to this trade readjustment because everybody's going, Wow,

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: it's more revenue. More revenue is good. I mean, the

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: consumers are going to pay for some of it. Everybody's

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: paying for it. The US government's raising money, and Trump

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: is turning out trade deals left and right. He's got

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: a new deal with the European Union, the mother of

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: all deals, fifteen percent. They're going to pay on everything

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: they bring into the United States, which is an increase

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Speaker 1: of about six times. Yeah, six times. That's a six

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: times increase on tariff revenue of what was coming in

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01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: from the European Union. That is a big increase. And

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Speaker 1: they're going to buy a lot of American energy too,

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: and weapons. According to President Trump. And also, since we

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: saw you last Japan cut a deal with the United

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Speaker 1: States at fifteen percent. We're talking about tremendous increases in

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: government revenue. And in fact, as we just were talking about,

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Speaker 1: it's not all coming out of the consumer's pocket, at

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Speaker 1: least not today. This is a major real life moment

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Speaker 1: of our economy. I don't know how it's going to

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Speaker 1: turn out, and neither does anybody else. And I'm going

1124
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: to tell you why you can't predict the future past

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01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: an event that's never happened before. And this has never

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: happened before, So we're going to have to see how

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Speaker 1: this plays out in the long term. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: in terms of the bond market, and I said this

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: in the last episode. The bond market is kicking. Everybody

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: wants to buy us, even though we're thirty seven trillion

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: dollars in debt and we should be on the do

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: not sell list because you know, when you got that

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: much debt, you're going broke. Nope, credit score is pretty bad. Yeah,

1134
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: but the money's pouring in. Yeah, because look at what

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Speaker 1: President Trump is doing to reindustrialize America and to balance

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: our current accounts with all this new revenue. We just

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: had a fantastic twenty year bond auction last week. It

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Speaker 1: was the best one of twenty twenty five. Meanwhile, President

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01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: Trump has pledged to prevent the imposition of US Central

1140
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: Bank digital currency. It's just words today, a pledge, but

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Speaker 1: he wants to pass legislation that prevents it. The money's

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: going to pour in here, pour in. Let's not be

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: too quick to judge. You know, you Democrats, I love you.

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01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: If you're watching, I'm so glad you're here. But you know,

1145
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: like for example, with Royce White, when all the attacks

1146
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: are this goes for the Republicans too, when all your

1147
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: attacks are what they call ad hominem personal man. What

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01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: if he grows up and it doesn't work anymore because

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: he's not any of those things. And what if the

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: economy booms a year from now and we're just kicking it,

1151
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: and then all these people that are saying doom and

1152
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: gloom is coming, and then a young man like Tanner's

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: got more money in his pocket than he's ever had,

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01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: he's going to say it must be President Trump. Could happen, right, happen.

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01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: I hope right, I hope it happens. But you know, hey,

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: you could buy your tires from tireget dot com and

1157
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: go to the Free People Store and Tanner's definitely going

1158
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: to have more money in his pocket.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to do the three percent FPR code. You

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01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 3: can get a little more saving a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit extra off at the checkout now you know

1162
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: what we got that there. We just want to know

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01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: that she came from the podcast. It's just a way

1164
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: for us to be sure how this advertising is working. Politically,

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: lots of things are happening. As always. Columbia has agreed

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: to pay a two hundred million dollar fine. That would

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01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: be my daughter's alma mater soon. She's a senior. Man,

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Speaker 1: if she's something. I went out with her on Sunday,

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: was my birthday. We went out for a beautiful sit down.

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Speaker 1: Not a not a cruel word was spoken. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: But man, this girl is sharp like a knife.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean she's going to be a Columbia graduate in finance.

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Speaker 1: It's an econ. What do you want to do, honey,

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: She's going to work in the financial industry. She's going

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: for the cash. I had a chance to do that

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six. I chose not to. I chose not.

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Speaker 1: I was just not interested in it. In fact, I

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: was laid in bed last night missus Professor Penn wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about money at ten fifteen. I said, I

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: want to talk about money. She said, how could that be?

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: I said, well, it's not that important to me. She

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01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: said money. She said, that's important twenty four hours a day.

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Speaker 1: I said, well not for me. See, people are different.

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Speaker 1: This goes into your religious idea. So I think about

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: God twenty four hours a day. I tried not to

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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: have anything. When things intervene in cloud that and I

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01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: get separated from my search for truth, I have to reset.

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: But some people feel that way about money.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is how I kind of think of it.

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 3: Is like, if you're a carpenter, you are super involved

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 3: and it's always on your mind of building houses. You're

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: not thinking solely about the nails, the tool you need,

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01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 3: you know, so when you think, oh, money is the

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: most important thing, you're missing the point.

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Speaker 2: Money is the tool.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want you to take that up around the campfire, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because there's an equal and opposite reaction to that that

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Speaker 1: says you're crazy if you're not focused on the money.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is why we have to come up

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: with a new language to bridge this gap, a new

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: cultural cultural evolution which allows all of these ideas to

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: come together. Otherwise we're going to be ruled over. President

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: Trump continues to surprise he has slashed twenty five percent

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: of the IRS workforce, having been through many audits.

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Speaker 2: Screw those irs.

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Speaker 1: It has not hurt my feelings to think, and of

1208
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: course I don't steal from the government. And they still

1209
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: come in from time to time all the time to

1210
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: try the those wings off my back. But that's okay,

1211
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: that's just part of the game. But the big political

1212
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: news of the week is Tulca Gabbard refers to President

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Speaker 1: Obama for criminal charges after debunking the Russia hoax. That's

1214
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: a big deal. Now President Obama is not going to

1215
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: get prosecuted because he gets to live under the same

1216
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: immunity that President Trump was just recently granted by our

1217
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: great Supreme Court. But there's many others whose faces are

1218
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: on the thumbnail today, like Brennan and Clapper and April

1219
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: Hayes and McCabe and Susan Rice that do not enjoy

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Speaker 1: the same presidential immunity. And if what people are alleging

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01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: is true, boy, this is crazy because these people are

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Speaker 1: being accused of guess what the big the big T

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Speaker 1: word treason, treason. Well, here's a lie pot in the

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: Russian government helped Trump win the twenty sixteen election. We

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01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: know that's a lie now, or at least we have

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Speaker 1: to hearsay that it's a lie, but actually the documents

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Speaker 1: are published. But the documents could be a lie. But

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Speaker 1: let's just go with what we are being told is

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01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: the truth and a lie. The lie is that Putin

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Speaker 1: and the Russian government helped Trump win the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie. Didn't happen. The truth is President Obama,

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Speaker 1: former Director of the CIA John Brennan, and others fabricated

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Speaker 1: the Russian hoax, suppressed intelligence showing Putin was preparing for

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Speaker 1: a Clinton victory, manufactured finding from shoddy sources, disobeyed the

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Speaker 1: intelligence community standards, and knowingly lied to the American people

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Speaker 1: to undermine President Trump. Wow lie. The fabricated Steele dossier

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Speaker 1: was not used as a source in the Obama administration's

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Speaker 1: January twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment of the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie. It was used. Not only The truth

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Speaker 1: is not only did the CI director Brennan, FBI Director

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: came D, and I Director Clapper and others include the

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Speaker 1: Steele dossier in the twenty seventeen Intelligence community assessment. They

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01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: overruled senior intel officials who warned them it was fabricated.

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Speaker 1: And should not be used. Here's a lie. The Obama

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01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: administration's January Intelligent Community Assessment was an independent intelligence community

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: product produced with a political analysis. The truth is Obama

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01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: ordered the intelligence community to create an intelligence community assessment

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Speaker 1: they knew was false, promoting a contrived narrative with the

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Speaker 1: intent of undermining the legitimacy and power of a duly

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Speaker 1: elected President of the United States Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: So kind of like what they did with the Hunter

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01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: Biden laptop situation. Not not exactly like this, but same thing. Yeah,

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01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: same thing that they yeah wow.

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Speaker 1: Not the search for truth, but the search for an outcome.

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Speaker 1: So then the question becomes, if we're talking about treason,

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Speaker 1: who are they serving. Treason is defined in the US

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Speaker 1: Constitution has quote levying war against them the United States,

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Speaker 1: or in adherent to their enemies giving them aid and comfort,

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Speaker 1: levying war against the United States, or inherent to their

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Speaker 1: enemies giving them aid and comfort. So there, the allegation

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Speaker 1: is that these people committed treason levying against levying a war,

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Speaker 1: in this case an information war, because we have this

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Speaker 1: frame that war is bombs dropping, you know, the highest

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Speaker 1: level of war is this information war, the war for

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Speaker 1: the hearts and minds the people that war. That's war.

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Speaker 1: I went through this thing with misters. Professor Pinch goes

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Speaker 1: where's the bombs? This is like three or four years ago. Oh,

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Speaker 1: she's not doubting me. Now she sees the war. Now

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: she sees it. But she didn't dead and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people didn't see it. But this is war. This

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: is an information war. So if they're doing this, who

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Speaker 1: are they giving aid and comfort to? What are we

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01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: talking about here? What could this be? Like Patriots and Tories?

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: Do we have an ideology at foot in our country

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: that's globalist, which is in contradiction to and in competition

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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: with the idea of the Republic of the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. Well, I've been saying it, and I'm going

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01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: to say it louder and louder. We have a foreign

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: ideology in our country because our constitution is so bad

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Speaker 1: ass it admits these ideologies into the public square because

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to assemble.

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean these ideologies are not contrary to

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Speaker 1: the concept of a republican form of government, which is

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Speaker 1: promised to me in my constitution. So perhaps we have

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01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: to think about what treason means in a new way,

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01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: because the old way. Benedic Arnold. You've heard of Benedic Arnold. No,

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: you never heard the name Benedic Arnold.

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: It doesn't ring any bells.

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01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: Ooh, he is our senequa non traittar. Benedic Arnold in

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,799
Speaker 1: seventeen eighty was a general in the Revolutionary Continental Army

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01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 1: during the American Revolution. He is our most infamous trader

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: because he conspired with the British to surrender West Point, which,

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: of course at that time was a fort, not a

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01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: military academy. It was a crucial American stronghold, and he

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: was going to surrender it in exchange for money and

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,440
Speaker 1: a commission in the British Army. His plot was discovered

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01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: before he could execute it, and he escaped to the

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01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: British side. Serving as a British brigadier general, he led

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01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: attacks against American forces. He was never captured and he

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01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: was never tried for treason. His name, though, is now

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: synonymous with betrayal.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the British get enough heat. The

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 3: more and more I learned about the British Man, we

1304
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: do not hate on them enough. A lot of people

1305
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 3: always joke about their teeth and stuff.

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: But that's because they took over our academic institutions and they.

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01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: It's becoming a lot more evident to me, I.

1308
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: Even pregnated us, Like they've been pregnated us with two

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01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,480
Speaker 1: foreign ideologies, Darwinism and Marxism.

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01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: They've just infiltrated America. I don't know.

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: Sometimes I really do think that after we declared ourselves

1312
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 3: of their own country, they sat back and we're like, Okay,

1313
01:22:58,840 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: we're not going to win this way.

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01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: How do we infiltrate information war?

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01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: Yes, the information war, it's all tying together, the information.

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: War and these conspirators, if it's true, Brennan Clapper, Susan

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Rice McKay from the FBI, call me from the FBI, Clapper,

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01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence. They conspired to create an information

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: war to undermine a nationalist movement seeking to restore the

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: viability of the republic.

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01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's the original thing that the British

1322
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 3: real up said about the Americans doing.

1323
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Well, boy, if we get this thinking going, these dudes

1324
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: could hang. Yeah, they could hang, because we're going to

1325
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: talk about some of these people that got hung. Aaron Burr,

1326
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Burr, former Vice President, Aaron Burr. Another name you

1327
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: might if you don't know Bennett Arnold.

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm learning that I need to.

1329
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: I took a college class for early American history, but

1330
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: I obviously didn't.

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01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: Make a comeback on this, right, Yeah, a little bit

1332
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: deeper dive. Aaron Burr was a vice president who was

1333
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,839
Speaker 1: actually tried for treason, arrested and tried for allegedly plotting

1334
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,839
Speaker 1: to separate Western states from the Union and seize parts

1335
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: of Louisiana Territory, the Louisiana Tarrity for who for himself?

1336
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: He was running his own game. He said, it's good

1337
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: to be king, so he went off on a plot.

1338
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: Burr was ultimately acquitted, in part because the legal definition

1339
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: of treason required proof of an overt act of levying

1340
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: war rather than just conspiracy or intent. The case was

1341
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: crucial in establishing a high bar for treason convictions in

1342
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the United States and highlighting the strict interpretation of treason

1343
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: defined in the Constitution. Well, they didn't all get off.

1344
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: If you're in a.

1345
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: John Brown, no, this is a history classic.

1346
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: Was an abolitionist. That means he was anti slavery, and

1347
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: he was prosecuted by the state of Virginia for treason

1348
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: following his failed raid on the federal arsenal at Harper's

1349
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 1: Ferry aimed at sparking a widespread slave uprising. The trial

1350
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: in Charlestown, Virginia, which is now part of West Virginia,

1351
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: lasted only a week, with Brown defending his actions as

1352
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: morally justified and against slavery. He was convicted on all accounts,

1353
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: and guess what they did with them. They hung him

1354
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: by the neck until he was dead because it was

1355
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: a treasonous act. He attacked the United States of America.

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01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: And they were claiming that him aiding the enemy. So

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01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: the enemy in this context was the slaves. Because this

1358
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,520
Speaker 3: is where I'm starting to get confused with the definition

1359
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 3: of treason, is it's painting it like it's an outside enemy.

1360
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: There was laws, and the laws included that slavery was legal.

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01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: He attacked a US military arsenal at Harper's ferry. He

1362
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: attacked the US government kind of like that guy that

1363
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma City. Yeah, I

1364
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 1: think he got killed also executed, right.

1365
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: So the definition of treason does not always need to

1366
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: be that they are aiding an enemy.

1367
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: They can be the enemy. It's just an attack, the attack.

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: In the United States, an attack on the United States.

1369
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: This is very interesting. Is a information war attack on

1370
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: President Trump to undermine his presidency? An attack on the

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: United States. That's what we're talking about. You're bringing up

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01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: the important point, you know, Tanner, You're really helping me

1373
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: today because I want to bring out the point that

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01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: the definition of treason and its application in trial is

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01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: culture bound. Please play Number five.

1376
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 6: Ican troops stationed in the Pacific during World War II

1377
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 6: not much felt like home, but each day they got

1378
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 6: a little slice of life in the States courtesy of

1379
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 6: the popular Japanese radio hosts. They branded Tokyo Rose.

1380
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 4: Reading everybody, this is your number one enemy.

1381
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 6: The show was called The Zero Hour and mixed popular

1382
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 6: American music with messages from Japanese propagandists hoping to make

1383
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 6: their American military audience long for home and abandon the fight.

1384
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you, V and I

1385
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: enemies that they'll be all the thing tomorrownight.

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 6: When the war ended and American occupation forces began rounding

1387
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 6: up war criminals and traders, no prize was greater than

1388
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 6: finding Tokyo Rose. But despite public opinion, the woman known

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 6: as Tokyo. Rose was not a trader, but a loyal American.

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01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 6: Her name was Iva Toguri and her segment of the

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01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 6: Zero was called Music for You and was purely entertainment.

1392
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 6: Iva was born in Los Angeles, California and raised fully American.

1393
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 6: In July of nineteen forty one, she traveled to Japan

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 6: to visit a sick relative. As tensions rose between the

1395
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 6: US and Japan, Iva tried to return home, but her

1396
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 6: passport application was still delayed at the State Department. When

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01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 6: the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor, with the US and Japan

1398
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 6: at war, Iva Tuguri was trapped in Japan. Iva was

1399
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 6: soon contacted by the Japanese secret Police, which ordered her

1400
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:44,919
Speaker 6: to renounce her American citizenship. She refused. In nineteen forty three,

1401
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 6: she was hired as a typist at Radio Tokyo. At

1402
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 6: that time, Radio Tokyo had just begun broadcasting Zero Hour,

1403
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 6: which was produced by a group of Allied POWs and

1404
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 6: Japanese American hosts. In November of nineteen forty three, to

1405
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 6: Gury was added as a host, using the moniker orphan

1406
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 6: Anne on air. She chose that name because she felt

1407
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: like an orphan in Japan, but OUR troops called her

1408
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 6: Tokyo rose As host. Iva actually helped the US military.

1409
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 6: The troops loved her corny narrations and found the popular

1410
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 6: songs she played entertaining. When the war ended, American occupation

1411
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 6: authorities began rounding up war criminals and American expatriots for trial.

1412
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 6: Because she had refused to renounce her citizenship, Iva was

1413
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 6: still subject to US law throughout her time at Radio

1414
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 6: Tokyo that allowed prosecutors to investigate her for treason. Iva

1415
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 6: was quickly arrested and brought back to the US in

1416
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 6: nineteen forty eight. She was then charged with eight counts

1417
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 6: of treason and was convicted on one count, specifically for

1418
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 6: mentioning the loss of American ship UPS. No recording of

1419
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 6: this broadcast exists, and the accusation was never proved. Nevertheless,

1420
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 6: Iva was sentenced to ten years in prison and fined

1421
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars. Iva spent six years and two months

1422
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 6: in prison and was paroled in January of nineteen fifty six.

1423
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 6: Twenty years later, Chicago Tribune reporter Ron Yates picked up

1424
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 6: on her story and discovered that two prosecution witnesses had

1425
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 6: perjured themselves, not only that, but they had been forced

1426
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 6: to do so by US authorities on the threat of

1427
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 6: being tried for treason themselves. Further investigations and a feature

1428
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 6: on Sixty Minutes brought Tokyo Rose back into the limelight.

1429
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 6: As word of this miscarriage of justice spread, momentum began

1430
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 6: to build for a presidential pardon. On January nineteenth, nineteen

1431
01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 6: seventy seven, President Gerald Ford formally and unconditionally pardoned Iva Togury,

1432
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 6: restoring her citizenship, which had been stripped away upon her conviction.

1433
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 6: In two thousand and five. The American veteran set her

1434
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:16,440
Speaker 6: directors decided her story of perseverance and patriotism was worth remembering.

1435
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 6: In early two thousand and six, AVC President Jim Roberts

1436
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 6: honored Togury with the avc's Edward J. Hurleyheaves Citizenship Award,

1437
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 6: an emotional Iva Togury later said that receiving the award

1438
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 6: was the most memorable moment in her life. Never before,

1439
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 6: even with her pardon, had she been so honored. Sadly,

1440
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 6: she died just eight months later, on September twenty six,

1441
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:47,879
Speaker 6: two thousand and six. Iva Togury was always a proud

1442
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 6: and loyal American. She was wrongly convicted by our government

1443
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 6: and suffered because of that four years. But ultimately that

1444
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 6: same government set the record straight, and now history needs

1445
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 6: to remember her as the patriot she was.

1446
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Was she a patriot?

1447
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1448
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: It's hearsay. The whole thing is a story, and it's

1449
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: a story that was part of the information war after

1450
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: World War Two. She was a treason is criminal that

1451
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: was convicted downstream when it was all good with the

1452
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: Japanese and every Let me tell you when I started

1453
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: selling tires, this was nineteen seventy nine. I actually was

1454
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: importing tires from a very oh it was a famous company,

1455
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: but nobody knew it at the time. Bridge Don't. Everybody

1456
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: knows bridgetone now, But in seventy nine, nobody heard the name.

1457
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: And I was bringing these tires in and I get

1458
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: on the phone and try to sell them. Nobody had

1459
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: heard of it, and the guy'd go where they made

1460
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,919
Speaker 1: Japan And there was still so much anti Japanese sentiment.

1461
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 1: People'd screen at me for important Japanese produced tires. In

1462
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, nineteen seventy ninety, right about the time

1463
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: that Gerald Ford pardoned Tokyo Rose. It was an issue

1464
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: of cultural reconciliation because Japan had become our great ally

1465
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 1: in the Far East, and to this day there are

1466
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: a great ally in the Far East working with us,

1467
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: we the people to thwart the ambitions of China. So

1468
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: Tokyo Rose was a pawn in a great game. I'm

1469
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: sure she didn't wake up when she was in sixth

1470
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: grade and say, let me become a pawn in the

1471
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: great game. Things just happen for reasons we don't understand,

1472
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: and that great game goes on to this day. We

1473
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: didn't have time to get to it. But if you

1474
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: are not aware, ten, are you aware that Thailand and

1475
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Cambodia went to war with each other? No, not well reported.

1476
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna pick that up on our next Professor Pen podcast.

1477
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: But this conflict and this war in the Far East,

1478
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: that goes back to World War two and before into

1479
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds, the ambitions of the Asian countries

1480
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: to throw off the Empire, creating an empire of their own.

1481
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: It's not that they don't want empire, they just don't

1482
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: want it to be the Anglo Saxon Empire. And the

1483
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: Japanese are our guy, there are guys in the Far East,

1484
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 1: So that was part of cultural reconciliation. Treason is culture bound,

1485
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: treason is of the moment, and the question of today

1486
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: is are these people really conspirators and they really commit

1487
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: treasonous acts. Well, Tulsea Gabbert has referred this case to

1488
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:04,440
Speaker 1: the Justice to Apartment, referred the case for criminal evaluation,

1489
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 1: and we're going to see how this plays out over

1490
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the next weeks and months to come. Got into some

1491
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 1: very esoteric ideas today. How are we going to unite

1492
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 1: people of faith so that the republic can be maintained?

1493
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: That is the political question, because religions are political. We

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Speaker 1: convenient for pastors to get five oh one C three

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Speaker 1: tax exempt status for their churches. But again, just like

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Speaker 1: President Trump's administration allowing people of faith to get together

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Speaker 1: in government off hours and pray together and to try

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Speaker 1: to proselytize their fellow workers, this five oh one C

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Speaker 1: three exemption is going to be removed so that preachers

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Speaker 1: can preach in the pulpit about politics. Got a lot

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Speaker 1: of change going on. It's time for us, we the

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Speaker 1: political activists of this contry, to organize this change and

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Speaker 1: make it effective. Thank you very much for joining. It's David,

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Speaker 1: You're Penning, your host. I'm so glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to seeing you again on Thursday night. Tanner,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming in earlier this morning.

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Speaker 1: Of course, good night everybody.

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