WEBVTT - 9021One-On-One: Anson Williams A.K.A. Potsie!

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<v Speaker 1>It's nine.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.

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<v Speaker 3>He's best known for playing Patzi on Happy Days, but

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<v Speaker 3>he has also had a fantastic career as a director.

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<v Speaker 3>Anson Williams joins US Today to talk about his time

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<v Speaker 3>on the side of Beverly Hills nine O two one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, here's our friend who's a handsome man. Hello, God,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you still make goodness?

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<v Speaker 4>Stop it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool?

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<v Speaker 4>You are you kidding me? He was, OK, filter, I

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<v Speaker 4>have no filters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this is so great to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good to see you guys too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In that life, that o Hi life, well O high life.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a quiet life up here, but it's it's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a beautiful place, you know. Yeah, it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of time stops here. Yeah, and no one cares about

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<v Speaker 4>who you are, which you know, and it's a it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very it's a kind creative community.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe even in Ohai people don't care who

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<v Speaker 3>you are, like one of the most characters in TV history. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not getting away from that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, okay, fine, but you know, guys, can

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<v Speaker 4>you believe how many years since line two. One. Oh right,

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<v Speaker 4>how many years since Happy Days? I mean, seriously, we

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<v Speaker 4>just had our fiftieth oh last January, this last January.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you guys do.

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<v Speaker 4>Not much? I thought there'd be a big event, but

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<v Speaker 4>but the thing is, I think, like you guys, we

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<v Speaker 4>have been close friends for decades, Henry don Ron myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we're literally a text way, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>and we never talked business, We never talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we just talk about you know, love and heart and family.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just been a wonderful friendship. And just to

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<v Speaker 4>have that and on a show, to have that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of friendship that many years, it's it's pretty unique. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's a lot to do with Gary Marshall, our mentor,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And he was like a like a college professor,

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<v Speaker 4>and he he really cared about us, not just as

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<v Speaker 4>a showruner, but as young people because we didn't know much.

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<v Speaker 4>And he really inspired us to educate ourselves in entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>To our many hats. He made sure that Paramount Studios

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<v Speaker 4>was a college. He made it a meaning guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to last in this business, you better

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<v Speaker 4>wear quite a few hats and get it, get out,

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<v Speaker 4>get don't get in the way of yourself. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>that great, you know, you really aren't. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>shadow directors come to the writing sessions, go to the

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<v Speaker 4>editing rooms, whatever you need. This is your school. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's why all of us are still involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a giving person. He liked to bring you

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<v Speaker 2>in like that and let all of you learn the

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<v Speaker 2>ropes in the ins and outs of not just acting

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<v Speaker 2>but the business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I get so smart. I wish we had that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I tried as a director to to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of pay that forward early on Gary, Here we are.

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<v Speaker 4>He sat us down. I'll never get He sat us down.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you guys are gonna be famous. Don't deserve it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be famous. There's gonna be a light on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Your responsibility is take the light and put it on

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<v Speaker 4>someone that does deserve it, help them out. And it

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<v Speaker 4>really hit it hit home, and you know, we've all

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<v Speaker 4>kind of live by that. And the other thing he did,

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<v Speaker 4>which was incredible. They asked people ask us, oh, what's

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest moments on the set of Happy Days? What's

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I thought, well, it's not really the set.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we had fun times. It was the ball team.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a softball team. And Gary was a sports fanatic,

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, I'd like us to go to every

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<v Speaker 4>colleg I'd like to go to every major stadium in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States. Let's put together a ball team. We're

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<v Speaker 4>all ex athletes. The only one who wasn't was Henry,

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<v Speaker 4>but Ron Howard and Clenn Howard's brother taught him how

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<v Speaker 4>to pitch and he ended up being really, really good.

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<v Speaker 4>So he really had a very good ball team. And

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<v Speaker 4>Gary put this team together and we played in every

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<v Speaker 4>major stadium in the United States, pregames, hardly ever lost.

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<v Speaker 4>We went on USO Tours, playing against the Marines, the

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<v Speaker 4>Army you know over the China Sea where the third

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<v Speaker 4>Infantry Division Germany, and he said, he goes, and I

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<v Speaker 4>put it together because, yeah, he goes, you always have

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<v Speaker 4>the back of your teammate. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>come back to the set. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>stop a lot of egos. And sure enough, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>for over a decade. Yeah, ball team, And those are

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<v Speaker 4>the moments. I mean, we're we're in Germany. Uh what

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<v Speaker 4>was the name of that? Oh gosh, the small third

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<v Speaker 4>Infrey Division and what's the name of the town? I

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<v Speaker 4>forgot But in that little town, it was very original,

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<v Speaker 4>over a thousand years old, and there was a castle

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<v Speaker 4>and it was the original suit of armors and everything

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<v Speaker 4>else in there. But they turned it into a restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>and an overlooked brine river and there's Ron Henry Donny

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<v Speaker 4>myself where at the table. Instead of serving water, they

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<v Speaker 4>had wine dispensers. You got a glass of wine, not water. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>we were feeling no pain. So we ended up going

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<v Speaker 4>outside on this original terrorists that's one thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 4>years old, singing splush blasts to the entire over the

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<v Speaker 4>Rhine River, to the entire city of Wartzburg. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't make those stories up, man, what.

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<v Speaker 2>An incredibly I wish that we had that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>somebody sit us down in the beginning and say, we

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<v Speaker 2>are a team, we are together.

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<v Speaker 3>You're so young, you don't know. You need someone to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of guide. Wait, was the ball team called Happy

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<v Speaker 3>Days or it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the Happy Day Team? And it's so great And

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<v Speaker 4>if you wanted a line in Happy Days, it's an extra.

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<v Speaker 4>Just be a good ballplayer, football player. Listen, we're taking

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<v Speaker 4>you to Germany. I'll give you a line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you recruited.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you. It was so basic, it was so tactile,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole situation was, and it was so funny. Got

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<v Speaker 4>to the point where Jerry Paris are amazing director, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the greatest comedy directors in history. He did All

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<v Speaker 4>the Dick Band, He played Jerry the dentist next door

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<v Speaker 4>in Melbourk's. We had the most most brilliant comedy minds

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<v Speaker 4>in the world on that set, which is incredible. But

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<v Speaker 4>but it got to the point where people would come

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<v Speaker 4>down and they thought we were nuts during rehearsal because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it was three camera at the time, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a play, you know, which I think, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, really helped with the camaraderie, unlike nine on

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<v Speaker 4>two one zero, where it's kind of piecemealed. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's like a movie. Here we're together every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day, we're together rehearsing theater basically. But it got

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<v Speaker 4>to the point he'd say, okay, here first rehearsal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>your answers start here, you go there, Henry coming here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go. It's like going, well, hey, Richie ah, you

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<v Speaker 4>never had to say words a grunt. You knew it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't funny, you knew the timing is all. You didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to say anything. You knew. So basically rehearsal was

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of grunts and people would say, what are they?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a language? What are they doing?

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, oh that's so good when you know somebody

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<v Speaker 2>so well grunts everything, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 4>And I really do think, and I actually think for

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, because honestly, the one thing directing nine or

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<v Speaker 4>two and zero and all that, I don't remember the

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<v Speaker 4>scripts that much. I remember you guys and the joy

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<v Speaker 4>of working with you guys all individually different days. Just

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<v Speaker 4>a wonderful group, no we goes, I mean really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>And I really remember the times you reached starting to

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<v Speaker 4>direct an episode and all our direct you'd ask questions

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just a beautiful time on a set

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<v Speaker 4>with a great and a wonderful cast and just so

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<v Speaker 4>heartfelt uh so kind to me, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know you're the director, you're the odd person out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what what made you want to pivot from being

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<v Speaker 2>like this iconic character in television history to directing to

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<v Speaker 2>going behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, actually it actually started early in that I started

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<v Speaker 4>writing and producing for directing. I never really meant to

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<v Speaker 4>just stay at an actor at all. I actually thought

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<v Speaker 4>I got a lot for not much. I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>went about as far as I can go as an actor.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always been more interested behind the camera, writing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did educate myself as on the paramount lot,

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<v Speaker 4>just in terms of the craft and all that. And

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<v Speaker 4>then in nineteen eighty Ron Howard had a deal at

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<v Speaker 4>NBC for three movies of the Weeks, and the first

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<v Speaker 4>two were like okay, And I told I said to Ron,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I said, you're too good. You got to

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<v Speaker 4>do something substantial here. You got a movie of the week.

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<v Speaker 4>Assess something something. So one night I visited my parents

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<v Speaker 4>in Burbank, and I was driving back home and I

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<v Speaker 4>passed the Burmac Airport and kind of a remote area

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<v Speaker 4>of it, I saw this old plane and I saw

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<v Speaker 4>someone in a wheelchair handing something to someone working on

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<v Speaker 4>the plane. And I had been involved in with several

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<v Speaker 4>palsy because my cousin had several palsy, so I was

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<v Speaker 4>I did a lot of charity work. And I looked

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<v Speaker 4>at that and I went, WHOA, and this idea came

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<v Speaker 4>to be called Skyward. I said, you make this child

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<v Speaker 4>in this always look up. You're always looking up, so

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<v Speaker 4>they're always looking skyward and this so everything becomes free

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky and basically, will I ever look down?

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<v Speaker 4>Will they ever look up at me? And I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>what if this person learned to fly? So created this

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<v Speaker 4>film called Skywork. I visited to Ron, he said, I

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<v Speaker 4>love this. We went to Brandon Tartakoff at NBC. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>I love this. I looked. So they put it into

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<v Speaker 4>the and we wrote a script and they he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's great. Melissa su and is playing the lead. We

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<v Speaker 4>have this deal with her, and Ron and I are going,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we really should have we found this disabled actress.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic. No one knows they're fantastic, and we really

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be hypocritical. We should really give a shot to

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<v Speaker 4>an actress who's disabled. And he's going on and on,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're arguing, and he's going he goes, look, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>this is business. We have a deal with Melissa Sue Anderson.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to pay her play movie of the week.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're going on and on and on finally, So

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<v Speaker 4>we go finally, I said, okay, Ron, Ron does the

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<v Speaker 4>scene with Susie Gilstrap, who's a paraplegic, and we're there

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<v Speaker 4>and we put it together and we bring it back

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<v Speaker 4>to Brandon. He's like so frustrated. Now he goes, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>you got this other part, Billy an ex stump part

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<v Speaker 4>of the Lady. Blah blah blah blah blah. You get me

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<v Speaker 4>Bettie Davis, you got your girl. Well that's the pope

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<v Speaker 4>at the time. All right, yeah, I mean it's like, really,

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<v Speaker 4>I go, thanks a lot. We're walking out. I tell Ron, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Melissa. We did our best. It's Melissa Swanners and

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<v Speaker 4>we did our freaking best. That's it. So that night

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<v Speaker 4>on Carson there's Betty Davis no on Curson Society. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>tired of playing women's parts. I want to do something

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<v Speaker 4>with action.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's pretty good action.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going stumpilot later. That's action, you know. So I go,

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<v Speaker 4>I go, Ron, bro, let's get this script over I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know the agent. I don't just find a regent.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get it over there. We get the script over there.

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<v Speaker 4>Betty Davis trusts nobody in life especially buboynowns to us

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<v Speaker 4>she reads everything submitted. We didn't think it ething get

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<v Speaker 4>to her.

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<v Speaker 1>She said yes, Oh my gosh, wow, she.

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<v Speaker 4>Said yes, And we got Susie and we got and

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<v Speaker 4>that was the film that got raw at the features.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the film Alan Ladd Junior saw it. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>for night Shifts. Oh. And that all came out of

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<v Speaker 4>Happy Days, out of Gary Marshall. I just showing you

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<v Speaker 4>how things happened. So produce that and I was exec producer,

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<v Speaker 4>wrote the story, We wrote the script, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 4>did a few others and then I was like, as

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<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, this producing stuff's cold. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not involved, You're kind of away. You're not you know.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, you should direct? I go, oh great, a

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<v Speaker 4>third career, thanks, you know, he said. So. Basically, I

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<v Speaker 4>had a show in development called No Greater Gift. It

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<v Speaker 4>was an after school special co wrote with a partner

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<v Speaker 4>and it was about it was really one based on

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<v Speaker 4>a inspired by a true story about organ downership between

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<v Speaker 4>these two kids. Anyway, No Greater Gift, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>able to beg the network to let me direct language show.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was the beginning of it, and that put

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<v Speaker 4>me behind the camera, and from there it just progressed,

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<v Speaker 4>thankfully through the years.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a trifecta.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, that's such a beautiful progression though, because as

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<v Speaker 2>you ended that show on Happy Days, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>I know that we probably felt this way pigeonholed into

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<v Speaker 2>that stereotypical character. People didn't really want to see you

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<v Speaker 2>as other characters. It was a little more challenging as

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<v Speaker 2>an actor, but you could just kind of pivot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when we found out you POTSI was directing our show,

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<v Speaker 2>we were all freaking thinking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I imagine every buddy who was directed by photos

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Which never did with anyone who came on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you ended up being like, we became friends with you,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're one of the few directors on nine that

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<v Speaker 3>became like our buddy, our friend, like someone we trusted

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<v Speaker 3>and we would have like great conversations outside of directing

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<v Speaker 3>and acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you were started as an actor, like you, he

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<v Speaker 2>got us.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really got us totally. And it's acting is very

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<v Speaker 4>sensitive area. I mean, we're all I mean, everyone has

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<v Speaker 4>the background of why they go into into acting anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty complex, a lot of a lot of emotions,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of reasons. I'm like, you know, make up

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<v Speaker 4>for loss whatever. But you know, and it's a and

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<v Speaker 4>there's just I mean, and you know, trust and love

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<v Speaker 4>and like comfort means everything, you know where and collaboration

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<v Speaker 4>means everything. And I hated directors, honestly, God, they go,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the director. It's like a director is a storyteller.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all you are. It's like whatever your psychologist, you ever,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you have to do to make it work. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not You're not that. What's important is what's printed.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of people involved in that, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of talent involved in that, a lot of sensitive situations

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<v Speaker 4>in that, you know, And it's a big how do

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<v Speaker 4>you collaborate everyone and get it done and get it

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<v Speaker 4>done right? And everyone feels involved and everyone feels satisfied

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<v Speaker 4>with their part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a group like village mentality like it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really and you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, how you could you could? You guys

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't be more popular? And how many it was it

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<v Speaker 4>ten years or eleven? How many years? Ten years? And

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<v Speaker 4>that was happy to its ten ten years the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really rarity, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>And here you guys still are still souper, are popular,

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<v Speaker 4>but you all give back, you're all, you're all. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's important to be you know, examples of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>of doing the right thing and you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not be a giver and not a taker.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We've always realized and maintained that our fans are are everything,

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<v Speaker 3>like we'd be nothing without them. Yes, so we'll forever

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<v Speaker 3>be grateful. How often do people say potsy? Nowadays?

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<v Speaker 4>A lot they still say, but it's so funny early

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<v Speaker 4>on unhappy days, we're real popular and we're getting potsy

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<v Speaker 4>potsy potsy and honestly being young, Ron Howard was there

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, you know this Potzi stuff. Man, He goes, answering,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to earn your name. They know you this character. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you think I feel? I have two Opi

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<v Speaker 4>and Richie. He goes, he got one. Shut up, I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta new I that makes OPI is pretty good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it. Yeah, you have to earn our names

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<v Speaker 4>to take this and do something bigger with it. That's

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<v Speaker 4>where it's you and that's directing and writing whatever. And

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<v Speaker 4>you earn your way, you know, you earn your way

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<v Speaker 4>and that makes sense. That was a had a run

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<v Speaker 4>had a big influence on me and Gary Marshall. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's true. And now and then it gets what were

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<v Speaker 4>you doing? They they know what you do now, they're

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<v Speaker 4>probably know you're direct they know you're right, but they

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<v Speaker 4>still love your character. You know, it's cool, it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Ron, I was just wrong. Ron had won

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<v Speaker 4>the Oscar and they're calling him Richie. It's like, you go,

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<v Speaker 4>this's great. Whatever makes forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's forever.

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<v Speaker 4>The power of what you guys do. Seriously, Henry Winkler

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't his popularity at the time, it was

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<v Speaker 4>the Beatles times three. I mean, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it was nuts and back then there were three networks.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it. We had an average of sixty so

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<v Speaker 4>million people watching sixty point two wet rating. If we

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<v Speaker 4>get that, we figot into the fifties. Are disappointed? Okay? Three? Not? Well? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk about popularity, man, and you talk about plus

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<v Speaker 4>they're syndicating during the day, and I mean, and Henry

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<v Speaker 4>was like, just you could you could not be more popular?

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<v Speaker 4>In life anyway, he always made a point to visit

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<v Speaker 4>children's hospitals when in the town. He would go in,

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<v Speaker 4>not as even as the character. He would just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but he would play the character. And he went in

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<v Speaker 4>to this one room and I guess they were they

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<v Speaker 4>were there was an autistic kid, and there's an old

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<v Speaker 4>guess who's coming to visit you? And nothing. He's never

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<v Speaker 4>never expressed nothing, no express nothing since birth. Nothing. Henry

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<v Speaker 4>comes in, Henry comes into this room. Oh hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>is I mean, he goes Henry goes hey, Ka goes hey.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the first time, all of a sudden he was

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's breaking down, crying, the mother, nonverbal and anything anything,

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<v Speaker 4>And it was the first time there was any sense

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<v Speaker 4>there was a connection. That's that's the power of the

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<v Speaker 4>media and it's the power of character. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so we learned from you. I mean we learned

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<v Speaker 2>I for one, learned from you like just having you,

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<v Speaker 2>like the legendary you directing us being so like personable

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<v Speaker 2>and chill and just talkative with everyone, just having a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool, normal like energy about you. That was inspiring

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<v Speaker 2>for me and like an example for how we should

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<v Speaker 2>be as we get older. In this business like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be like some affected person star you

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<v Speaker 2>know all the things that people assume. You could be

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<v Speaker 2>a real person and just light up so many people's

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<v Speaker 2>worlds because of who they know you from and what

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<v Speaker 2>they know you from.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's funny when they see someone like you,

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<v Speaker 4>just the wall goes down and they go they're vulnerable

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<v Speaker 4>and and you you put a little joy in there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's it's very effective. Gary did. He gave

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<v Speaker 4>us another great lesson and he said, you guys, you

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<v Speaker 4>guys are in it, and in it means yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>got the fire and you want to be successful. You

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<v Speaker 4>want to be this, you want to be known. You

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<v Speaker 4>got Yeah, never be of it. It's not who you are.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're of it, you're hiding behind it. You're running

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<v Speaker 4>and that could be. It could be from hiding behind kids,

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<v Speaker 4>hiding behind this, hiding behind drugs, hiding behind a VP. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Never you're in it, never ever be of it. You

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<v Speaker 4>will never ever be happy as a human being. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're hiding from yourself. Wow, that was it was That

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<v Speaker 4>was a very important lesson he taught us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, authenticity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so it's what we do so who we are?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yeah, they ask you a fun thing about

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<v Speaker 3>happy days.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Always talk about this when we have people on OMG

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<v Speaker 3>from nine oh two one oh and Iron was infamous

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<v Speaker 3>for it. Is there anything you took from the set

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<v Speaker 3>the very last day, like ten years are up the

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<v Speaker 3>final scene, like Iron took the jukebox like I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. I wasn't there the last day for the

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<v Speaker 4>last and I didn't get a chance to take anything

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to complain about that. You're talking about happy days?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hap, happy days. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, Now you're going to see You're going to see

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<v Speaker 4>how absolutely dumb and stupid this guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>You got two right here. We took nothing, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to this. Oh no, who knew this stuff would

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<v Speaker 4>be like you know, you know Kate Hut's Kingdom. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean seriously, it's like, what check this out? Last Night

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<v Speaker 4>of Happiness, last show. Mickey Gerard you might know and

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<v Speaker 4>you know his his his niece is Jill, the one

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<v Speaker 4>on Love Boat, your Dad's show, right, Joe Wheeling whatever, Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>Well there's Mickey and Fonsie you know had three jackets.

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<v Speaker 4>One went to Slsonian one he owned, and there's one

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<v Speaker 4>extra one I'm walking by. Mickey goes, would you like

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<v Speaker 4>this jacket? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, what were you embarrassed to take it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you take it?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know. I was like no, No, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't think it was that important.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you like, huh? I don't wear it?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? And now when I was in the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave it to Jill. Talk to Joe, she's got it.

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<v Speaker 4>She didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>How much would that go on? eBay the house?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? Then then he goes wheeling the happy it is jukebox? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's that?

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<v Speaker 4>I could have got it for a thousand dollars? I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want it to I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the real good one, same as USh.

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<v Speaker 4>The middle the middle you know, the middle booth of

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<v Speaker 4>Arnold's right, Yes, everyone's a kind of iconic famous. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a seat. There was one episode where Arnold's burned

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<v Speaker 4>and they rebuilt the bats going. They said, hey, Hanson,

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<v Speaker 4>before we burned this, you want would you like the

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<v Speaker 4>center booth if you can figure out how to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of here? Nay?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you thinking, what the hell am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the booth?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>So did they only ask you or you just happened

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<v Speaker 3>to be there, so they really.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know if they asked anything. No one

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<v Speaker 4>else took it. Put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>What about your letterman jackets?

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<v Speaker 4>I got that, okay, I got the jacket, sweater and

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<v Speaker 4>I and now it's in a there's this guy that

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<v Speaker 4>has the most Happy Days memorabilia according to the Guinness

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<v Speaker 4>Work of Records. He has a little Happy in his

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<v Speaker 4>museum in Italy. Oh, it's in that museum. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we kept I kept so, I mean so little, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think it through.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't forward thinkers, and so we did the reboot.

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<v Speaker 1>Iron's like remember where he went wrong before?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think ten like we took the menus

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<v Speaker 3>from like the restaurant we had created on beach. Well

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 3>that show was one season, so it's like by the

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 3>time we figured it out, it was too late.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well back then, memorabilia wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>that big a deal. It just wasn't that. Yeah, it wasn't,

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 4>It really wasn't. Otherwise it's so funny. I directed a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of Star treks, right. It's it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 4>everything's locked up there. I mean it's like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they knew, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding, It's like they had it down with science.

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<v Speaker 4>You got nothing, zippo. It was, I mean, every little

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<v Speaker 4>prop was locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is an appropriate question, but I'm only asking because I

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<v Speaker 2>think we might be in a similar situation. What happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Happy Days and syndication and like residuals for you, oh,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>for your cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's it's so interesting you brought that up because you

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<v Speaker 4>know we're all sag after members, right, love, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how we had I don't know how we had

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<v Speaker 4>like almost three hundred episodes whatever, a lot of episodes, right,

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 4>And even even if it plays once a day somewhere,

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 4>it's like four dollars fight dollars, right, But there's no

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 4>forensic accounting going on here. It is like, I'm really

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 4>upset with the screen actors go in terms of that.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't make sense to me because even because today,

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<v Speaker 4>even today, and I'm sure nine oh two one oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're like on five eight ten platforms at CBS, you're

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 4>on Pluto you're on.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Our show has a channel that's just nine O two

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<v Speaker 2>and oh all day.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go, yeah, and you get and you go,

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<v Speaker 4>you go ninety two dollars and three cents. It's great,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean it's it's it's like, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety two dollars that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A big one.

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<v Speaker 2>We get like three cents?

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are told? Never like you have to cash it,

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 3>don't throw it away?

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<v Speaker 1>Bad luck. You're like, are right?

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<v Speaker 4>I love it when it's four d eight cents.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like kid because you know, like Friends, the cast

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>of Friends like something changed.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, the reason is smart insiduals. They get ownership

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 4>of the show. That's a difference. They own part of

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 4>the syndication cell. How could we have the reason? He's

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 4>so very he owns the show. So when when when

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.959
<v Speaker 4>a station buys it for so much money, they get

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 4>a percentage of the sale. It's beyond guilt. That's a

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 4>separate deal. That's why. That's why they get very rich.

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't offer that to us back then.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish we had taken a course or Gary Marshall

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<v Speaker 3>had taught us like how to like ownership and just

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>everything that goes along with it. So as we would

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<v Speaker 3>get you know, restructure our deals, we would know like, hey,

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 3>this is what I'm interested in. I want this, I

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<v Speaker 3>want that, And like we just knew nothing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we were happy being a part of something that matter.

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<v Speaker 4>But you don't you don't think that we're not you know,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 4>we didn't go to business school, you know, and we

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 4>learned business as you go. Yeah, but actually so the

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<v Speaker 4>next one you do them. You know, it's an education,

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 4>that's way I see it. It's it's like there's I

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<v Speaker 4>look I look through this going oh my god, but

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>look at the but look at the positive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we wouldn't change anything.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>We're talking. Yeah, we're still That means a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot, it really does.

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>We wouldn't change anything except we would have gotten some

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 3>money from like the hair dryers, the perfume, all of

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the merch with our faces.

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, oh yeah, well god, yess who knew?

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what was happening on those you know.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 4>But that's true, and that's that's the other side of licensing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well we're not dyeah, we're not crying about it.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>But but it's just as interesting how the business changed

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>involved and people got smarter.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, the next show, the next show you're starting in

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Jen and are business woman show me?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's you know, it's just that kick in the

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>pants of not crying, but like, oh, wish what we

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 3>know now?

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>We could have applied then. But so is life.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 4>You always say it, but yet you're you're being able

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 4>to apply something now, which is kind of nice.

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Wait, I need to know what's happening for you next.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's tell us what is going on. I heard you're

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to shoot something.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Are you You're in a movie with my TV husband?

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I you know something that is so funny because the

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 4>director is a friend of mine. I haven't acted at all,

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 4>and I never I've never had blood on my face.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>So I did a horror movie and yeah, so I

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>did as a favor going in there, and it was

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 4>so much fun. It's Killer Pigs, just a kind of

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:06.719
<v Speaker 4>a hoot, little horror movie. But there's Brian right, you know,

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't have a scene with him, but but

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 4>it was just it was a lot of fun. And

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm out there. I'll tell you this. I'm out there

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and it's like one in the morning. It's like degrees

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 4>on this phone. I'm going. Now I know why I'm

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 4>not acting anymore.

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Exactly know.

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I said, this is a great reminder. I'm saying, if

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 4>you're directing, you go, can I have another code? Please?

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Thank you? I'm comfortable action. I go, I'm too old

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>for it, man, I said, I'm done with this. My

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 4>foot off.

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not as fun as it used to be.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not. That's what. How about a sitcom? Yeah,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Brad Pitt talked about that. He looks at scripts and

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I goes, ooh, nic shooting. Oh, I don't know that.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say he was gonna do a sitcom? I

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>just whoa I did? Yeah, so it's called The Three

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Killer Pigs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. But one thing I am working on is very

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 4>There's one thing that's very important. I'm gonna and I'll

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 4>tell you why. And it's this right here. It's called

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<v Speaker 4>it's called Crazy.

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Mama, Crazy Mama.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us it is a powerhouse. It's a play. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a play that's going to premiere at the only equity

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 4>equity theater in Materia, counting the Rubicon Theater in the March.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 4>And they're already talking off Broadway, possibly the Hell and

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 4>h Theater or whatever. It stars Pearl. I don't know

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 4>if you remember Linda Pearl, who you know, she was

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Unhappy days first and when she was on Matt Locke

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 4>for eight years, tons of movies of the Week, and

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>then she uh she was on played Carrel's girlfriend on

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 4>the Office and all that you would not bring.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>She worked from my dad Little Ladies of I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I directed her in Robin's.

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Hoods oh and then and then that yeah.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 4>That's yes, yeah, yeah, Robins. Anyway, it's a one woman's

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 4>show with a blues man, meaning there's there's a certain

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 4>song in there, like the Greek chorus, where as a

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 4>one woman show like goes down and here it comes

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 4>up on him. The song kind of plays the story forward.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>It's a true story about love and madness and it

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 4>deals with mental illness in the most entertaining emotional tacto

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 4>ever on stage. And my wife, Sharon Scott Williams, wrote

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 4>it and what happened was and it's based on her life.

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>She was eight years old, had a wonderful birthday on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Monday. One piece of birthday cake left. Oh honey,

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 4>when you come home, it'll be here for you waiting right,

0:33:53.280 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 4>and and she Monday comes gets off the bus and

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 4>gets goes to the kitchen and her mother comes after

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 4>with a knife, thinking someone's behind her. She had a

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 4>psychotic breakdown. Oh and it's like, okay, that's the and

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 4>it's a story. How does a family deal with it?

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 4>Through humor to hope, through tears? Will I ever get

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 4>her back? Will I ever get she's there? But she's

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.919
<v Speaker 4>not there? Will I ever get her back? I can't

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 4>tell you the brilliant it's Paulish surprise when it is

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 4>freaking brilliant, so brilliant that she writes it. And okay,

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, now the audience is going to tell

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 4>us everything. We're in. OHI, let's go to the underground.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 4>There's a little stage there. Let's rent it. Just whoever

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 4>wants to come in. We'll just we had a local actress.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's just see let's read it and see the

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 4>effect of this play. Just kind of a stage reading

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 4>standing ovation in her missioners mission. So here's what happens.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 4>So from that, it turned out the owner of the rape,

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, big industry paper of the rape, the owners

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 4>happened to be there, writes the review of it, like

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 4>to her, she got he wrote it to my wife

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 4>said print this wherever you want. This is important. This

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 4>is phenomenon. And another person happened in the audience that

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>was huge, huge in theater. Wow, calls her director at

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 4>the Rubicon says, you got to I know, you get

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.479
<v Speaker 4>a thousand places. I mean it's they do they five

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 4>shows for their season, and Rubicon is very connected with

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>New York and all that. It's like very been there

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 4>twenty five years. It's just they've never bought a play

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 4>at OHI ever, it's so all right. So she reads it,

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 4>calls up here and I want lunch. This is a

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 4>work of art, sits down and books it for the

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 4>season and it's called Crazy Mama. It previews start March

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 4>twenty six at the Rubicon. Okay, and the thing is

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 4>about it, it's such a When we did the and

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 4>we did a few more readings after that, it was

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe we changed five percent of the show. Maybe, And

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm gressing and people come up major crawling, like tears

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 4>of relief. I'm not alone and these they come up

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 4>and go, my mom didn't have a psychotic breakdown, but

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 4>she had cancer. I'm looking to who was there is

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 4>not there anymore. They all related to it in their

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 4>own life somehow. It was mind blowing. But all of

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 4>a sudden the walls went down. People talking, people conversing.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 4>But in this show, and it's all true. There is

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 4>magic and there is hope. And I will not tell

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 4>you the ending, but I'll tell you this. The last

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 4>line of the show, I cried thinking about you will

0:36:54.800 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 4>never ever forget ever, Well, you will take your heart solo.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 4>You guys have to. Honestly, it is. It is beyond special.

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>You heard it from Anson Williams himself.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>The ten's birthday in April. We should make it a

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>girls trip.

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Well it's it's March twenty. It starts March twenty six,

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Mark twenty ninth as the premiere, you know, opening thing,

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 4>and it goes into like first couple of weeks of April.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I love it that you have all

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 2>this passion like you don't. It doesn't stop for you.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 4>This is Gary Martin, No, this is this is taking,

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 4>This is taking our talents. And by the way, Linda

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 4>plays sixteen characters. Oh my gosh, no, I'm and I

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 4>mean sixty, I mean full, I mean physicality voice.

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Real wow, and you're looking amazing.

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 4>You think there's five people at the same time. Oh

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 4>my god, I'm saying it is a tour.

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I smelled the Tony's Yeah.

0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 4>She she took over fronnessa Redgrave for your magical thinking

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 4>that John Didion play, she did that woman show, One

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Woman Show. I mean, it's something, it's it's it's it's

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 4>something she it is something you've never seen somebody, You've

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 4>never seen this before. It is really what a collaboration

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 4>of talent and set designer. You know and you and

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 4>you would know this tory, the best set design, the

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>best life. I mean, just this beautiful group to get

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 4>coming together that are just just sensational and we're gonna

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 4>create it. It's gonna be something. Not only is it

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 4>hugely entertaining, but it's it's just it's so it's so positive.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 4>It's such a healing experience.

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>How do people get their tickets for this?

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Like, just just go to the Rubicon Theater dot com?

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Are you b I co O N heater t h

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 4>G A t R A Rubicon Theater dot com. Honestly, guys,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 4>really really really really important.

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, well we will check it out. I hope

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>everyone shows up. That sounds like something we should all see.

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes we should, yes, absolutely.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And so happy for you and working with your wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that great? That's amazing, And that's a whole new thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've been you know, we well I won't go

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<v Speaker 4>with all the personal stuff they got me here, but

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<v Speaker 4>I was pretty much a broken guy whatever. And she

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<v Speaker 4>had sold me my o High house fourteen years ago

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<v Speaker 4>and at the time and but nothing, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>the second home I was in another area with. Of

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<v Speaker 4>course life's changed and I'm back to OHI and out

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<v Speaker 4>of the the rest and the rest is history. It's amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>She's It's just just I almost feel I earned this relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>You go through so much, you know, you go through

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<v Speaker 4>so much. If you earned something really cool, really good,

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<v Speaker 4>that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes us so happy to see you so happy

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<v Speaker 2>and thriving and just loving life, loving your art.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's all this all good man, you say, going,

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<v Speaker 4>keep going, keep creating, Hey, hey, keep it going, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>really just to the last breath, man, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a lot to give still, all of us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of fun to have. Really a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of good times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know well, we had good times with me with

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<v Speaker 2>you that will never ever forget, ever back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>So happy to have you on with us. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for taking the time onsen you you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are an unbelievable storyteller. You truly are.

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<v Speaker 3>They got a knack, kid, Oh, thank you amongst many

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<v Speaker 3>knacks that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you well? Thank you, We love you, good.

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<v Speaker 4>To see you by bye and