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Speaker 1: down time. Here we go. Could it be anywhere near

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Speaker 1: as much fun as it was yesterday? That's the question,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Going into today's show? Welcome John Murphy with

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown today one Bill's Lives team tasker vacationing for

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Speaker 1: a little while. They'll be back eventually, but we've got

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Speaker 1: next door to the stadium. Cloudy day. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it every day now, cloudy day, Another cloudy day in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park, New York. Ad afternoon. Welcome to the show, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: you would have loved the show, yes said, I know

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Speaker 1: you did a Monday. It was similar, but Steve told

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Speaker 1: me yesterday was even more fun when the stuff started happening,

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Speaker 1: Is there any more deals coming down the pike? What

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Speaker 1: So we have to keep that in mind with you know,

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Speaker 1: him on the show. We talked about it. There's not

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Speaker 1: much to talk about that preseason game. All right, We're

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Speaker 1: coming back with Jordan Palmer. One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Hell from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'lcome back One Bill's Live from One Bill Drive. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com, was

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Speaker 1: in for Steve Tasker these Days and joining us now

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Speaker 1: on the set just off the field, off the field

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Speaker 1: inside the field house where the UB Pro Day was.

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Speaker 1: Just how We've got a former NFL quarterback, Jordan Palmer

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Speaker 1: of the Quarterbacks Summit. He works with Josh Allen, he

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Speaker 1: works with Tyree Jackson here today on the pro day. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: thanks coming on. We've had down on the show. I

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Speaker 1: think it was the day after the Bills drafted Josh

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Speaker 1: last year. And we appreciate coming back today because you're

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Speaker 1: in the building. It was perfect. Yeah, tell us about

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Speaker 1: how it went with Tyree Jackson today. You know, Tyree

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Speaker 1: Jackson's an interesting prospect because you know, he's a kid

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Speaker 1: who didn't only had one offer out of high school.

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Speaker 1: And I met him last July dm me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and and he came out to one of my QBE summits,

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Speaker 1: and it's actually the same exact way I got to

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Speaker 1: know Josh Allen. So I'm not interested in pitching guys

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Speaker 1: or explaining over the phone what I do. So you know,

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Speaker 1: two years ago I invited Josh Allen to a QBE summit.

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Speaker 1: He rumed with Jarrett Stidham, who I'm training this year

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Speaker 1: for the draft as well, and Sam Darnold and hit

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Speaker 1: it off and ended up training for the draft last July.

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Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson Hey said, come out in July to the camp.

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Speaker 1: He was there with Daniel Jones and Jared Stidham and

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, all these guys, and I just when I

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Speaker 1: got to know who Tyree is. Um. That was the

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Speaker 1: first time he'd ever been on the field with a

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Speaker 1: private coach, which I was crazy. Tyree would get your attention, right,

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Speaker 1: just if you look at his numbers right and walk

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Speaker 1: in the room seven to fifty and a big old smile,

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Speaker 1: yeah and uh and a good looking kid who's who

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Speaker 1: looks you in the eye. And he was raised right,

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Speaker 1: and so when you look at his his past of

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Speaker 1: you know, he had one offer and then went to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo for three years, but also you know, had a

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Speaker 1: three point five in both of those places. It's very

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Speaker 1: very smart, works really hard, and he grew up watching

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Speaker 1: YouTube videos of Tom Brady trying to learn how to

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Speaker 1: throw and uh, it's when you when you really hear

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Speaker 1: the story behind him, you just you root for him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm in a position to help these guys during

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Speaker 1: a really important phase of their life. And so it's

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Speaker 1: just an honor to be able to do it. You know,

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Speaker 1: twelve months ago we're out here. It was in Laramie,

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Speaker 1: Wyoming with Josh and and now to be here with Tyree.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a small world. How do you structure

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Speaker 1: things with these guys? They obviously come to you, they say, look,

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Speaker 1: I want your help, I want your guidance, I want

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Speaker 1: your expertise to help me be better do they How

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Speaker 1: does the agenda get set though, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: to do list, whether it's what they want to work on,

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Speaker 1: what they want to perfect. How does that all kind

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Speaker 1: of come together? Is that collaborative or do you kind

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Speaker 1: of watch them and then set the agenda. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: take the role of a physician. So the first thing

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Speaker 1: I want to do is give them a diagnosis, and

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Speaker 1: the second thing I want to do is give them

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Speaker 1: a prescription moving forward. And so and that's really in

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Speaker 1: three categories. It's mentally, it's physically, and then it's emotionally.

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Speaker 1: So if a guy's really immature or doesn't or can't

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Speaker 1: self generate confidence, that's on the emotional side. And I

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Speaker 1: have a sports psychologist I bring in and I've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of experience and helping in that area. If

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Speaker 1: there's always mechanical, physical and mental stuff, right, there's the

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Speaker 1: mental side of it is the offense the defense that's

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Speaker 1: more programmatic. I'm installing things I don't get on the

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Speaker 1: board or turn on tape. I have them watched during

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Each guy picks at defense. Monday, they watched

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Speaker 1: the last five games, Tuesday, base pressures, Wednesday, sub pressures, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: third down, Friday, red zone. What an NFL quarterback does

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Speaker 1: in the week. We use the NFL playoffs as that.

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Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is they learn all the

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Speaker 1: things that are happening in the playoffs and then they go,

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Speaker 1: what's this coverage? Why is there three guys over here? Great,

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Speaker 1: I'll install it. And then on the physical side, with

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Speaker 1: Tyrie because he was really raw mechanically and has had

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Speaker 1: great coaching at Buffalo for a couple of years. And

511
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Speaker 1: then before that was YouTube, we were more less starting

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Speaker 1: from scratch and saying let's let's don't not worry about

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Speaker 1: bad habits that you have. Let's just go ahead and

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Speaker 1: create new good habits. And so today, you know, the

515
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Speaker 1: footwork that he had was really clean, controlling the ball

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Speaker 1: short and intermediate throws out something we highlighted today. Everybody

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Speaker 1: knows he can throw at seventy five yards, but really early,

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Speaker 1: similar to Josh Allen's proday last year. I actually kind

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Speaker 1: of used Josh's script for today. Jordan Palmer are our

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Speaker 1: guests from the Quarterback Summit in California. Works with Tyree Jackson,

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Speaker 1: works with Josh Allen. You don't what do you have

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Speaker 1: a roster of seven at the summit right now in

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Speaker 1: this spring? Well, last year's guys, so Sam Donold, Josh

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Speaker 1: Shallon and Kyle Allen. They're out there and they're throwing

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Speaker 1: with the guys every day, they're in our meetings. And

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Speaker 1: then this year working with Drew Locke from Missouri, Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidham from Auburn, and Tyreee what's a typical day like

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Speaker 1: for that group? That can about you know, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 1: it's about the same. So we throw from seven thirty

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Speaker 1: to about ten. They get with their trainer, Ryan Flaherty,

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Speaker 1: who handles all the speed and conditioning, the forty work

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Speaker 1: all that. That usually goes from ten to one thirty.

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Speaker 1: It's a long workout, and then we have meetings at

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Speaker 1: night where I'm installing stuff getting them on the board,

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Speaker 1: and their long days a lot of video review, I

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Speaker 1: would guess from what they're throwing. Yeah, I challenge them

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Speaker 1: to watch their own college tape and come up with

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Speaker 1: some answers, almost like a book report. But when we

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Speaker 1: go through the NFL playoffs, you figure it. We start

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Speaker 1: wild Card weekend as we start draft training, and then

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Speaker 1: first week in February is the Super Bowl and the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl week when there's no NFL game, well that's

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl week, so they're gone that week anyways,

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Speaker 1: and so so it works out really well. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're on the board watching a lot of tape. You know.

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Speaker 1: Now they have getting download the app and you get

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Speaker 1: access and all that stuff, so they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of homework and but The key thing is we're also

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Speaker 1: in southern California, and it's beautiful, and they're done in

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00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: the afternoons and they can relax because my guys never

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00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: really appear to hit a rookie wall because they didn't

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Speaker 1: live in a hotel and do nine hour days. January

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00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: February March Yeah, I don't think you need to do that.

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Speaker 1: This is a weird This is probably a somewhat obscure question.

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00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: But you know, these guys are working out, they're putting

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Speaker 1: the time in. How are they how are they pulling

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Speaker 1: in guys to throw too. I mean, you've been a

558
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Speaker 1: former quarterback, you know you're always asking receivers, hey, can

559
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Speaker 1: we just go throw? I mean, those are the guys

560
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Speaker 1: that are doing all the run and who do you

561
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Speaker 1: who do you guys bring in rounds for them? It's

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00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: a great question. So we throw in the mornings. Part

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Speaker 1: of that is because there's some local high school guys

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Speaker 1: who can come out. I actually think that throwing to

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00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: a slow, short high school receiver is harder than throwing

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Speaker 1: the guy. It's like a donut on the baseball bat.

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00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: So I always have a mix of those guys. But

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Speaker 1: in the room next door to us. I have three

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Speaker 1: guys that they not only are there all the time

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Speaker 1: throwing with them, we actually flew them out for the

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Speaker 1: pro day to day and thank god we did because

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Speaker 1: he had a guy that ended up not going. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris Kearney and Travis Wilson in particular, there

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Speaker 1: are two guys that are no longer playing and uh,

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Speaker 1: and they're running routes, but they show up on the

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Speaker 1: pro day. The agents fly him out and pay him

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Speaker 1: to be here. But it was a comfort zone. But

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Speaker 1: there's also you know, we got a lot of routes.

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Speaker 1: We get to showcase more things, yea, And so we

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Speaker 1: have some couple of cornerstone guys that are always there. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Chris Kearney and Travis Wilson. They threw,

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Speaker 1: they caught for Sam, Josh and Kyle last year and

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Speaker 1: they're catching for all three this year. They're like prote

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00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like a circuit. They're literally on the circuit. Yeah. So

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00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: and uh and they're awesome and fun So joined how

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Speaker 1: his Tyree Jackson improved since his his Buffalo season ended.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think, um, again, from the mechanics side

588
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: of things, it's not so much. Anything that he was

589
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: doing wrong at Buffalo is just when you play in

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Speaker 1: a gun system, which most of the guys are playing in. Right,

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: This isn't a Buffalo thing, this is a college quarterback thing. Um.

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: All of the footworks new. So we showed every different

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Speaker 1: type of play action that is in an NFL playbook today,

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Speaker 1: and so I think getting comfortable with those types of things.

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Speaker 1: We had some mechanical things where I think he improved

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Speaker 1: a lot. He just got more efficient. And then in

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Speaker 1: terms of just exposing him to offense and defense and

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Speaker 1: how the league works, and for a small school guy

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Speaker 1: from a small town, also just exposing him to this lifestyle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was important for him to go to the Super Bowl,

601
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Speaker 1: have cameras in his face, have marketing things run around,

602
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: because that's going to happen, and let's do it now

603
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: and get used to it again. With Josh Allen, it

604
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: was the same thing last year. He wasn't a big

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Speaker 1: famous person until all of a sudden, you're a big

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Speaker 1: famous person, and that's something you gotta get good at too.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Tyree walking around with a smile on his

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Speaker 1: face today. I saw it today. I saw it at

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Speaker 1: the Combine. I saw it at the Senior Bowl. He

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Speaker 1: does seem to be enjoying that. He's loving it. You're

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Speaker 1: kidding me. He keeps saying to me, like, I never

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Speaker 1: thought i'd be here. Yeah, you know, whether that's Southing

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Speaker 1: California or the Super Bowl or here or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: so very very appreciative. Reminds me of Deshaun Watson who

615
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: outsmiled everybody in Indianapolis because he was legitimately so just

616
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Speaker 1: blessed and pleased to be there. Terry has that same sentiment,

617
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Speaker 1: and I think it's important for the young guys. Flipping

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Speaker 1: it over to Josh, you know, he told us when

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Speaker 1: he left here at the end of the regular season

620
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: there were going to be some things that you know,

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Speaker 1: he had a list, he said, he kind of put

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Speaker 1: a list of his own together in terms of some

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Speaker 1: of the specific areas of his game that he wanted

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Speaker 1: to improve upon and perfect after getting through his first

625
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: NFL season. So does he come to you with that

626
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Speaker 1: and then you kind of draw up some stuff for him,

627
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Speaker 1: and if you can maybe share one or two of

628
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Speaker 1: those kinds of things. What is he kind of focused

629
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Speaker 1: on at this point in time Back in Cali, well

630
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: a year ago. There was some dramatic mechanical things to change,

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00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: and it was all tied to his feet. So when

632
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: he was at Wyoming, his feet would be pretty close

633
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Speaker 1: together and he'd be bouncing on his toes. So what

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00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: that does is that by itself is not a bad thing,

635
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: but when you go to throw, you put yourself in

636
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: a position where you're gonna overstride, and then the ball

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: sails on overstride. Things happen, right and everything what ends

638
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 1: up happening is every throws a little different, right, Well,

639
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: we want to eliminate that, and so but that and

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Speaker 1: he did a great job for his combine and his

641
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Speaker 1: Pro Day and rookie year and all that stuff. But

642
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: that's not something that you work on for two months

643
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: and then you got it now, because you'll when football happens,

644
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: you'll kind of go back to your bad habits. And

645
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: so this offseason I think is really about cementing those

646
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: good habits that he replaced it with the bad ones.

647
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: Cementing those things, and then you know, getting just talks

648
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: some of the coaches about some stuff that they're going

649
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: to have him do this year, trying to just put

650
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: his body in the right position because I remember when

651
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: David Lee was coaching quarterbacks here. He told me one

652
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: time he tried to work with Tony Romo on his

653
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: release mechanics because too many of his passes as a

654
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: young guy kept hitting lineman in the heads and he

655
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: wanted to fix that. And he said it took him

656
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: over ten thousand throws to put the motor memory in

657
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: to fix that. Does that sound like I don't know

658
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: what an average. Yeah, he depends on what it is.

659
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: But what I would say is trying to put him

660
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: in a position where he's doing things in warm ups,

661
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: he's doing every every aspect of him working out, is

662
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: forcing him to do specific things so you can get

663
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: reps off the practice field. You know, I had him

664
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: last year. We had hardwood floors in the house that

665
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: I rent in. You have socks, and he would get

666
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: that new base and he would just buzz and move

667
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: all the way around the house and reverse it. But

668
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: if you think of like a risky business to basically,

669
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: but if you think about it, it's it's that's a

670
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: lot of reps. Well, we're not on the field, he's

671
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: not stretching, he's not sore, there's no weight on his back.

672
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: So any way that you can develop that muscle memory

673
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: that you're you alluded to. Um, we'll go ahead and

674
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: take those with the Jordan Palmer from the Quarterback Summit

675
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: in California, working with Tyree Jackson and with Joshy Allen.

676
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: So much attention a year going on josh Allen's completion

677
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: percentage at Wyoming. It continued this year. Um, we talk

678
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: about it on this show a lot. A lot of

679
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: last year's issues, if they were such an he seemed

680
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: to me we're a function of the type of offense,

681
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: type of throws. Josh Allen was being asked to make

682
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: right did you see that or what did you see? Yeah,

683
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: because he has such a strong arm, Um, you know

684
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: he and he's so confident he can get it into

685
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: any window. I think the evolution of his game is

686
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: going to be developing more touch and anticipation. Now I

687
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: say that, but he has great touch. You know. He

688
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: was labeled the strong arm thrower, and then he went

689
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and the two touchdowns that he threw.

690
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I remember him there were wheel routes and they were

691
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: layered in there and they were beautiful. They didn't throw

692
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: those things as far as he could so he has

693
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: that in him, but I think a lot of the

694
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: plays that he had in college he had to wait

695
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: to see the guy open, based off personnel, based off weather,

696
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: based off whatever. He ended up having to needing to

697
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: see it open to be able to throw it. And

698
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: as you play longer in the league, that's why I

699
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: love that he's playing with a guy like Matt Barkley.

700
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't have that same arm, but has made it

701
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: this long because he throws and relies on touch and anticipation.

702
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Sam Donald has Josh mccount. McCown played for Mike Martz

703
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: that was all touch, anticipation layer. So when you have

704
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: somebody in your QB room, and now I'm not saying

705
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson doesn't have that, but Derek Harrison's closer to

706
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Josh than Matt. Big giant guy with a huge arm.

707
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: But Matt Barkley is great, and I know Matt since

708
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I was little, great touched, great anticipation. When Josh is

709
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: not in on a rep in practice and Matt's in,

710
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: that'll be valuable tape to see Matt maybe through it

711
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: a little earlier to the same spot. And so I

712
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: think the evolution of Josh this year is continue to

713
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: develop touching anticipation and also in great receivers like Smokey,

714
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: like Uh, you know, like Colby, you know these having

715
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: adding these new pieces and around him, you'll you'll get

716
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: more trust and which is going to allow you to

717
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: throw up more touch. To talk about John Brown a

718
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: little bit, because obviously he's supremely familiar to your brother

719
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Cars and haven't played with him in Arizona, but I

720
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: know you know him too. Where do you see the

721
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: type of receiver that he I know you just mentioned

722
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of it, anticipation and trust, But where

723
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: does his game best serve advancing Josh's game? Well, I

724
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: think anytime you have a big arm guy, you want

725
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to have somebody that you can push the ball down

726
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the field too. And so I think John Brown can

727
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: run with anybody, and so just taking the top off

728
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: the coverage. But also he they asked him to do

729
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: so many different things in Arizona, and Bruce Arian's offense

730
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: was very complex for a receiver. A lot of sites,

731
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of hots, a lot of different adjustments, a

732
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of different formations. So I know that John can

733
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: handle a lot and uh, and so I just think

734
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: he's a guy that there's I don't ever care how

735
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: tall a receiver is. I care how big they play.

736
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: So John is I don't know how tall he is,

737
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: but he plays a lot bigger. There you go, he

738
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: plays bigger than he I played with some six four

739
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: guys six three guys who played small. They can't adjust,

740
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: they can't go up and get it, and so it's

741
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: got to be a perfect throw. So John is gonna

742
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: be a guy that is really easy to throw too.

743
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: And also the guy who's played with Carson Palmer and

744
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. You know, he's played with pros but also

745
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: pros who do things who want this depth. You can't

746
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: be fast and play with Carson and then not not

747
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: listen to how he wants the routes ran right. So

748
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: when you get a chance to play with guys like that,

749
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: then you have a certain expectation of what the quarterbacks

750
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: are asking for. And so Josh with this quarterback room,

751
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Brian Dabo and Ken Dorsey, all the experience they have

752
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: that you know, I just think that I think Brandon

753
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Bean and the rest of the staff is doing a

754
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: fantastic job of building this thing around him. They say,

755
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: hey have free Joan how do you make what you're

756
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: doing with Josh right now maild with what they want

757
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: him to do and what they want to see from

758
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: him when he's here in I think it's about a

759
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: month from today. Yeah, you know, for me, it's less

760
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: about you know, running a play I don't. I don't

761
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: have the playbook. I don't need the playbook for me.

762
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: It's about just making sure that there's a lot of consistency.

763
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: If he's going to throw from on platform standing there,

764
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: two feet in the ground, throw, how do we make

765
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: it to where it always is the same and always

766
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: feels the same, And when one of your bad habits

767
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: creeps in, you notice it and you go, oh, my

768
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: feet got a little narrow there. I was leaning a

769
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: little bit. So it's really about getting him to self correction.

770
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: So then you take him at the end of this,

771
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, in April, and he shows up and now

772
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: they get to have him do the things that they

773
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: want him to do. He's just in a better position

774
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: to do those things and make fewer mistakes only almost

775
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: kind of like just being his own self police, you know,

776
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: like you're not when you're not there anymore. I'm trying

777
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: to get him to self correction. Yet. Yah. With the

778
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: draft training process the last week or two, I shouldn't

779
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: be saying anything these guys. Yeah, I'll be setting up

780
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: the drills and organizing everything. But the beginning for the

781
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: three phases of the draft training, the very beginning, I'm

782
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: talking a lot. I'm we're talking about the thing that

783
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: we need to address here. I'm giving him a diagnosis.

784
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: The second phase is really about tue and to hammer

785
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: them with that prescription. We're gonna kay, you know, there's

786
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: another example of you doing that right, and so we

787
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: keep coming back to it. But that third phase, they

788
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: should be at self correction, fixing it themselves. So what

789
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I do before that is I have whatever the thing

790
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: is that they're working on this next rap, I literally

791
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: have them say it out loud stantall chase my hip

792
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: short front stride. So I at least know that they're

793
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: getting in a habit of saying to themselves before each

794
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: rap that I'm working on something, as opposed to just

795
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of working hard and going through them. Just do it.

796
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: Think about what you're doing all the time. Yeah. I

797
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: work with lu Lemon and we do a lot of

798
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: yoga and a lot of it. If you've ever done yoga.

799
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: It's about bringing intention to the practice. Don't just go

800
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: here and do it. It's not a stretching session. Bring

801
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: intention to what you're trying to do. Do the same

802
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: thing on the practice field. Jordan palmer Is runs the

803
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Quarterback Summit you and it sounds pretty detailed and extensive,

804
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: And yet you're telling us before we came out of

805
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: the air, that's not your main job. You got something

806
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: else going on. Hustle. I run a marketing agency out

807
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: of southern California and got about ninety employees, and I

808
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: guess kind of stumbled into it. If you guys ever

809
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: seen those rubber wedding rings, we started that business about

810
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: six years ago. Wow, And a lot of players were

811
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: those the married a lot of guys. Yeah and sweetie.

812
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: So we've just been that stuff kind of kept growing

813
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: and evolving. In the playing career that I had, I

814
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: always had to have a second job because I didn't

815
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: know if I was going to make the team. And

816
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: then they kind of great partners and they kept growing.

817
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: But I got an itch that I gotta scratch here

818
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: in coaching, and so I live in Dana Point get

819
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to work with a lot of the best young quarterbacks

820
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: in America and help these guys. So you've got an

821
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: Instagram handle right, yeah, just where people can find you.

822
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: It was just my name, Jordan Palmer okay on Instagram. Jordan,

823
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: thanks for this, good to meet your face. Thank you.

824
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: This was great coming in. Jordan Palmer works with johsh Allen,

825
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: works with Tyree Jackson, working with a bunch of quarterbacks,

826
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: and he joined us here in studio. Chris and I

827
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: coming back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on

828
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'll come back One Bill's Live. I'm

829
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy. Steve Tasker out today, Chris Brown is in today.

830
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: Chris to be here for the next week or so?

831
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: What three days this week, A couple of days next

832
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: week's up to like a couple of days late next week,

833
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: late this week, yep, and we Steve's great on vacation.

834
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Happy to be here. Yeah, I'm great. Da have Brownie.

835
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my head's spending. A little bit from

836
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, A detailed that was a lot. There was

837
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: a lot o there about Tyree Jackson, obviously, but a

838
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: lot about Josh Allen and specific things that he sees

839
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen that he's working out, which you don't

840
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: get that a lot, right, I mean, and it's you know,

841
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: it's a it's a professionally trained eye, yeah, for what

842
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: to look for, how to fix it, and then, as

843
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: he said, a prescription for Josh to take with him

844
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: to self police when you know, because he's gonna come

845
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: back here in mid April, they're gonna be on the

846
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: field in May, and yes he will be getting coaching

847
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: from Brian Dable and from Ken Dorsey, the new quarterbacks coach,

848
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: but there are going to be instances where he's gonna

849
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: have to police himself because Jordan's not there to review

850
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: the tape and tell him whatever he wants to tell

851
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: him or what he thinks is right. Hell, I'm at

852
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: that point in time. So to give him the tools

853
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: to police himself, to make himself a better quarterback at

854
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: all times is invaluable. I mean, that's really the definition

855
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: of coaching. You not only instruct and teach, you give

856
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: them the tools to self instruct self improve And I

857
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: think you know that puts Josh on a really good

858
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: course going forward. I just can't get the image out

859
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: of my head if Josh Allen bouncing around in his

860
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: socks on a hardwood floor somewhere in a California condo

861
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: to improve his footwork. And I mean, I'm sorry to

862
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: provide the reference, but I instantly just thought, oh, you

863
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: know Tom Cruise coming across the floor in his socks

864
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: and risky business. Well that's really the key, isn't it,

865
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: to get him to make those corrections himself. And it

866
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. Would you you listed David Lee's prescription of

867
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: what ten thousand hours, ten thousand throws he said for

868
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 1: Tony Romo Because basically the story that David Lee told

869
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: me when he was the quarterbacks coach year with Romo was,

870
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: you know, he's in Dallas, he's the third quarterback at

871
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, and Parcels is playing his mind games

872
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: with Romo as he does with everybody else. Everybody thinks

873
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Romo's had this great camp, and he goes, yeah, but

874
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: you're always hitting the heads of the lineman. I don't

875
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: know if that's going to work in the NFL. And

876
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: now Romo's like, oh my God, like, I gotta fix

877
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: my throwing mechanics if I'm gonna stick in the NFL.

878
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: And so he went to David Lee and asked him

879
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: for help, and he said, over the course of about

880
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: ten thousand throws in three months, they raised Romo's arm

881
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: angle where it reduced the incidences of his throws hitting

882
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: his offensive lineman in the back of the helmet with

883
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: the football. So it can be done, and there are

884
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: probably different ways to do it. But that was how

885
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: long it took for Romo to kind of coach that

886
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: motor memory out of him. And the fact that they

887
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: want Josh and all of his students I believed, to

888
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: correct themselves. Let's face it, Jordan Palmer won't be here

889
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: for most of the season exactly wants him to notice

890
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: the issues and create and correct them themselves. Very I'm

891
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: gonna go back and listen to an interview with Jordan,

892
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: especially the part about Josh Allen. We wish him well. Hey,

893
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Chris and I Chris is here. All day, we started

894
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: to go through the bills eight moves that they've made

895
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Speaker 1: since the beginning of the free agency week. Free agency

896
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: starts at four o'clock today. Officially, we anticipate the Bills

897
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: will announce seven signings. We've gone through a few of them.

898
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: A few more we didn't touch down yet. Chris, we

899
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: just have a minute two here left in this hour.

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: But the tight end, Tyler Croft, what are the first

901
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: moves they've made? What are they getting there? Are they

902
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: getting a difference making productive pass catching tight end or

903
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: just a blocking tight end, a guy to fill in

904
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: the place where they need somebodies. Well, I mean, I

905
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: think his greatest asset is the blocking. I mean he

906
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: is known as an aggressive, tenacious blocker in the run game.

907
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: He's long, so when he locks somebody out, you know

908
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: they're going to be away from the ball. He's good

909
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: at that. He is a proving commodity in that respect.

910
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: I think as far as a receiver, he's capable, and

911
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I think he has above average athleticism for a player

912
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: of his size six six, two hundred and fifty pounds.

913
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: I think there is some untapped potential and ceiling to

914
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: still be reached in the passing game, just by virtue

915
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: of the fact that he had to play behind a

916
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: former first round pick in Tyler Eiffort for the bulk

917
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: of his career thus far. In Cincinnati, the one year

918
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: where he did get to play when Eifford missed most

919
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: of the season, he had forty two catches for I

920
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: want to say, four hundred and something yards and he

921
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: had seven touchdowns. I mean he had a touchdown catch

922
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: every six receptions. So I think at the very least, yeah,

923
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: at the very least, he is a red zone threat

924
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: in the passing game, and he's gonna help you in

925
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: the run game. He's an extra linement out there. I

926
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think the Bills are gonna need to put six

927
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: linemen on the field and overstack their run game. So

928
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: now that makes you less predictable because you have a

929
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: tight end that can go out and catch the ball

930
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: in the intermediate area, but is also a valuable commodity

931
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: in the run game. And I think that makes you

932
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: a more versatile offense because of that. That's what he brings.

933
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: They may have led the league in tackle eligible designations

934
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: last year, but just because they needed more beef, they didn't.

935
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: They didn't have a tight end who could block effectively enough,

936
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: simply put, and now they have that in Croft. You

937
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: know he can do that. Coming in the door veteran

938
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Speaker 1: running back Frank Gore, maybe on his way to the

939
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame someday, a signing that it was a

940
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a head scratcher. For some people, but

941
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Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I don't see any problem with

942
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: that at all. What do you think The Bills now

943
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: have the first and third active rushing leaders in football.

944
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: That is amazing, and the thirteenth, by the way, in

945
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory. But for Gore, I think the role here

946
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: is third down because Frank Gore can do a lot

947
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: of things well. I mean, he's really a very good

948
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: all around back. I think that's one of the main

949
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: reasons he's been in the league as long as he

950
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: has and remained effective as he has. This guy can

951
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: pick up the blitz like Thurman Thomas. That's how good

952
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: he is on third down. And so I think what

953
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: this affords Brian Dable is some very shrieking options in

954
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: third down packages. You can go split backfield with McCoy

955
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: on one side and Gore on the other, and you

956
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: can have Gore do the dirty work and you can

957
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: get McCoy out in space, and now he's a receiving option,

958
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: and you know Gore is gonna lock it down in

959
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: terms of that extra rusher. If they bring somebody off

960
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: the edge or up the middle, Gore will pick it up.

961
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: And he is a squarely built running back. I mean

962
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: he meets a linebacker in the hole, he's standing him

963
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: up in most cases. So I think the value in

964
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: the Gore signing comes on third down from a Blitz

965
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: pickup perspective and from a short yardage perspective. Now some

966
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: might say, well, Ivory does short yardage what you're orange,

967
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: you're doubling up there. Well, maybe they are. And then

968
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: here's the underlying value. This man walks into an NFL

969
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: locker room, people stop talking. That's how revered Frank Gore

970
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: is in this league. Frank Gore might not go down

971
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: in history as one of the most recognizable running backs

972
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: to the average NFL fan, but in terms of NFL players,

973
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: people stop what they're doing when Frank Gore comes in

974
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: the room. That is how revered he is in the NFL.

975
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: And knowing how much this offense needed more locker room leaders,

976
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: this guy fits the Bill to a hilt. I don't

977
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: know if you could do any better than Frank Gore

978
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: from an offensive leader perspective. There is so much respect

979
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: for this guy, it's it's probably close to unprecedented in

980
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's locker room in the last fifteen years. Yeah,

981
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: that's what I saw too as a leadership. Obviously, he

982
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: can play, he can run, he can make plays on

983
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: third down, as you said, but it's a leadership move

984
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: from a coaching staff that clearly values leadership. People are like,

985
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: this guy's old. What's he gonna do with this guy's

986
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: only two seasons removed from his last thousand yard rushing season.

987
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean ran for a thousand yards and twenty role here.

988
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: He won't leave the every down, right, it doesn't have

989
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, and lastly, we didn't talk much about this,

990
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: but Kevin Johnson, the street free agent who signs, had

991
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: him on the show here yesterday. He is He's a

992
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: slight more slightly built than I thought, but he is

993
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: definitely long and definitely eager to play after essentially not

994
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: playing last year. And he's versatile. Yeah, this is a

995
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: guy that can play in the slot or outside. He

996
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: is that good of an athlete. Yes, he is narrow framed,

997
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and even coming out of college, the concern with him

998
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: was durability, and that has been an issue for him

999
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: in his career. But you know, talking to him yesterday,

1000
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: it's clear that he wants to put that stuff behind

1001
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: him and just go play. The interesting thing for me

1002
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: is he plays a physical brand of football that I

1003
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: know coach McDermott loves to see in cornerbacks. In terms

1004
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: of run support, this guy'll come up and fill. You

1005
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about some running back getting out

1006
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: on the edge and turning the corner on this guy

1007
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: because number one, he'll head him off at the angle

1008
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: because of his speed. And then number two, he's not

1009
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: afraid to lower his shoulder and hit people. Now that's

1010
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: part of the reason why he ran into concussion problems

1011
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: last year. It's going to be interesting to see and

1012
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: when I am an opportunity to kind of talk to

1013
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: him one on one during the season or during OTAs

1014
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: or mini camp or whatever, I'm kind of interested to

1015
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: see if he feels he has to adjust his game

1016
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: anyway to ensure he stays on the field more than

1017
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: he has in the past. It's gonna be an interesting

1018
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: thing to see and to hear from, to see what

1019
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: his approach is going to be now that he's here

1020
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Eight of them eight new Buffalo Bills this week,

1021
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson was the first one. He's already signed. The

1022
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: seven others expected to be announced at four o'clock today.

1023
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Three offensive lineman, two wide receivers that tied to end

1024
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: of running back in the corner. Eight new Buffalo Bills

1025
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: this week. Who knows, maybe more to come. We're getting

1026
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: free agency news from around the league. Tyrod Taylor reportedly

1027
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: the former Bills quarterback has struck a deal to play

1028
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, you would think with the Los Angeles Chargers.

1029
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: More on that coming up. Ravens are going to sign

1030
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: running back mark Ingram to a deal, and they're going

1031
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: to sign safety Earl Thomas to a four year deal.

1032
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: All of those events were mentioned on the Update moments

1033
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: from now. Why don't get you involved in our Twitter

1034
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: poll today and we haven't had a chance to launch

1035
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: it yet because we were busy with to Jordan Potter busy,

1036
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: We were a little busy. What has been your favorite

1037
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: Bills move so far? What do you think? What do

1038
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: you like that they've done so far? Give us a

1039
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: call eight oh three oh five fifty or toll free

1040
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty weighing

1041
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: on Twitter at one Bills five. You can send it

1042
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: a tweet, We may read it on the air on

1043
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet or or vote on our Twitter poll

1044
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: our poll what has been your favorite Bills move so far?

1045
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: Right now? Overwhelmingly, seventy one percent say the addition of

1046
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: center Mitch Morse has been your favorite Bills move so far.

1047
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: I know I'm a little surprised. Twenty percent say the

1048
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: addition of Cole Beasley is your favorite move, six percent

1049
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: say John Brown, and two percents have somebody else in mind.

1050
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Eight o three oh five fifty

1051
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1052
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: fifty free. Agency opens at four. You see and have

1053
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: heard what the Bills have done so far, with eight

1054
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: moves to be announced, one announced already, I guess seven

1055
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: more to come. On four o'clock this afternoon, we'll talk

1056
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: about that. What's been your favorite Bills move so far

1057
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: in this past week? Coming up next hour, we're gonna

1058
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: talk with Kim Jones, our buddy NFL Network, Gonna get

1059
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: her take on the jet signing of Levion Bell, maybe

1060
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of Giants news, what they're up to.

1061
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: Kim Jones going to join us coming up in the

1062
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: next hour. Come on back. We're just getting started. Steve

1063
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: Tasker is off. Chris Brown is in It's one Bills

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network storing up date.

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Speaker 1: The update comes from one Bill's Drive where at four

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Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon, the Bills are expected to announce officially

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Speaker 1: the signing of seven free agents that they have negotiated

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Speaker 1: with over the last few days, reports coming out up

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Speaker 1: until even last night, when it was announced that the

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Speaker 1: Bills agreed to a two year contract with former Raiders

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman John Feliciano. He's a six foot four instree

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Speaker 1: under twenty five pounder, fourth round picked by the Raiders

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty fifteen. Fourth starts for the Raiders in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He'll be one of three offensive linemen expected

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Speaker 1: to sign with a Bill at four o'clock this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: including Mitch Morse from Kansas City and and Seki tayan

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Speaker 1: Secki from the Washington Redskins. Two receivers, John Brown and

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. Those announcement came out yesterday. Tyler Croft, the

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Speaker 1: tight end from Cincinnati whose imminent signing was announced on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Veteran running back Frank Gore also expected to sign with

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Speaker 1: the Bills today at four and yesterday the Bills announced

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Speaker 1: at cornerback Kevin Johnson had agreed to terms. He's already signed.

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Speaker 1: Seven announcements expected to be announced by the Bills coming

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Speaker 1: up at four o'clock this afternoon. Around the league, free

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Speaker 1: agency continues. The Los Angeles Chargers reportedly have agreed to

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Speaker 1: terms on a contract with quarterback Tyrod Taylor, a two

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Speaker 1: year deal for Taylor to probably go to Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and back up Philip Rivers. Ravens are signing running back

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Speaker 1: mark Ingram to a deal three years, fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: They're also going to sign safety Earl Thomas to a

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Speaker 1: four year contract worth fifty five million dollars. Around the league,

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Speaker 1: other signings announced late yesterday, the Carolina Panthers signed a

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Speaker 1: former Broncos center, Matt Partis, to replace five time Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl selection Ryan Khalil. Deal worth twenty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers made a deal with running back Levi on Bell.

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Speaker 1: He'll sign a four year, fifty two and a half

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract with the New York I'm sorry. The

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Speaker 1: Jets sign a contract with levinon Bell four years, fifty

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Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars. The deal includes thirty

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Speaker 1: five million dollars guarantee. The big trade last night the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants. The Giants agreed

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Speaker 1: to trade Odell Beckham Junior to Cleveland, according to sources,

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Speaker 1: a blockbuster deal that sends him out of New York

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Speaker 1: less than a year. He signed a big contract extension,

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Speaker 1: and the Sabers lost two to nothing, their second shutout

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Speaker 1: in a row. Sabers home against Pittsburgh Penguins tomorrow. That's

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Speaker 1: the update from one Bills Drive, Another busy day with

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Speaker 1: NFL free agency. John Murphy Chris Brown builds inside of

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Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com. Chris is here in place of

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Speaker 1: the vacationing Steve Tasker. Thank you very much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: So we said the Bills news will be made at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock today when they announced officially all of those signings.

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Speaker 1: We think we have the handle on the seven of

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Speaker 1: them that will be announced, maybe as a signer. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, Chris, what's left for the Bills to

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Speaker 1: do in the free agency and what do you think

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Speaker 1: is still out? Probably pass rusher. I mean they've been

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Speaker 1: sniffing around some pass rushers. You know, we've heard reports

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Speaker 1: of you know, ZIGGIANSA making a visit. You know, they

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Speaker 1: had their ear to the ground on a couple of

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Speaker 1: other people, and so, you know, I think that's something

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Speaker 1: they're looking at. I don't think they necessarily need to

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Speaker 1: fill it now, knowing how deep the draft is in

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Speaker 1: pass rush talent this year. But as you know, Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermot and Brandon Bean have said they want to use

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Speaker 1: free agency to eliminate any position emergencies when they get

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Speaker 1: to the draft and then that way that affords them

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Speaker 1: to really kind of adopt the best player available approach

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Speaker 1: and not have to worry about filling needs necessarily. So

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Speaker 1: I would say probably pass rusher. You know, they got

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Speaker 1: some cornerback depth and Kevin Johnson. Do they want to

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Speaker 1: add a little linebacker depth. I don't know. So I

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Speaker 1: think those are some things that could be on the radar,

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Speaker 1: but some of that might wait until the dust settles

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Speaker 1: on the first wave of free agency here going through

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Speaker 1: the first weekend, and then once you get into the

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Speaker 1: second full week of free agency, that's and you know,

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Speaker 1: you can start to find some better values on the

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Speaker 1: market that can still fill a hole that you're looking

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Speaker 1: to plug the Bills move so far? What's been your favorite?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. The phone line's open the eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty and toll free from outside Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one eight five fifty two five fifty. You can vote

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Speaker 1: in our Twitter poll, which right now heavily in favor

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Speaker 1: of Mitch Morse as the people's choice, the favorite of

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Speaker 1: the Bills fans. A couple of guys still out there,

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Speaker 1: Chris who had been talked about for the Bills wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Tyrold Williams of the Chargers still available, no signing yet.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? What do you think

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Speaker 1: is going on there? Um? I think his asking price

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Speaker 1: is way too high for just about everybody in the league,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's saying, well, I'm going to pump the brakes

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Speaker 1: and let's see if the price comes down. That's your

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, in terms of ranking

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver class thought him to be the best

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Speaker 1: outside receiver option in free agency. But he did not

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Speaker 1: sign and we're, you know, coming up on the opening

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Speaker 1: of the market officially, but there's been forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: of negotiating time and I don't even know. I think

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Speaker 1: I've seen him linked to maybe one team. I want

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Speaker 1: to say Oakland was interested and they were mentioned as

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Speaker 1: a possible suitor for Tyrrell Williams, but beyond that it's

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Speaker 1: been crickets. And so my thinking is when that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff happens for a player who is capable at

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Speaker 1: least you would think from a physical perspective to fill

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Speaker 1: a number one role on an offense in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: if given the opportunity, he's thinking bigger money than maybe

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Speaker 1: what everybody else is thinking in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: gms in the league. So there's got to be a

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Speaker 1: decision made there. Where are you going to come down

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Speaker 1: off of your high price tag that you want to

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Speaker 1: achieve here in free agency? Or do you want to

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Speaker 1: sit out there and twist in the wind a little

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Speaker 1: longer and hope a team offers something significantly closer than

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Speaker 1: what's being talked about now. I just know what we've

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Speaker 1: seen in how these markets play out. The longer you wait,

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Speaker 1: the lower the price goes, because all those teams that

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Speaker 1: are interested know the demand isn't significant enough to pay

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Speaker 1: you your asking price. So now you've got to come

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Speaker 1: down to meet them, not the other way around. Carolina

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle Darrell Williams had been linked to the Bills

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Speaker 1: primarily because of the Carolina connections. Here he remains on side.

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Speaker 1: You gotta believe it's money, but also you know his health, right,

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Speaker 1: he had some pretty serious kneed yes last year. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a doctor, and I'm not even

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Speaker 1: going to try to play one on the radio or

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Speaker 1: television here, But you openly wonder because you know that

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Speaker 1: each team has their own set of physicians, and if

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be doing your due diligence if you didn't.

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Speaker 1: In light of the fact of his injury situation last

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Speaker 1: you wonder if there are some team physicians that have

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Speaker 1: a much different opinion than some others and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, not worth the risk here. Yeah, he might

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Speaker 1: help you for the next two or three years, but

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Speaker 1: long term I'm not so certain about that. Those are

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Speaker 1: the kinds of conversations that team physicians have with their

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Speaker 1: general managers so they can make an accurate assessment, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of let the information help you make the right

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Speaker 1: decision for your team. So maybe there might be a

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Speaker 1: GM out there that was dead set on giving him

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Speaker 1: a five year deal, really loved his twenty seventeen tape.

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Speaker 1: But then the doctor comes back with the eval on

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Speaker 1: his physical and says, you might get three more years

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Speaker 1: out of this guy. He's got an arthritic condition, isn't.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what they're saying, but it's clear that

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Speaker 1: the market has softened on Daryl Williams. When the general consensus,

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Speaker 1: at least from the national media out there in assessing

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Speaker 1: the free agent market attackle had Williams up near the top.

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Speaker 1: Here's another edge rusher which just came onto the market

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, justin Houston, former Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs guy. Still out there. Look, and just because these

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Speaker 1: guys aren't signed yet doesn't mean they're not going to

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Speaker 1: be signed. But as you say, the market is soft,

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Speaker 1: I guess, and I'm a bit surprised. I thought Justin

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Speaker 1: rush specialist. Well, and you wonder now if Kansas City

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Speaker 1: comes back to the table and starts talking to him

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Speaker 1: to see if they can get him back at a

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Speaker 1: lower price, because they just traded d Ford to San

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Speaker 1: Francisco for a twenty twenty second round pick. So now

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Speaker 1: the team that had a luxury of pass rushing talent

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Speaker 1: currently has none, at least in terms of proven pass

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Speaker 1: rushing talent, and d Ford and Justin Houston, neither of

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Speaker 1: whom are on their roster right now. So yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a deep draft in pass rush talent, and maybe that's

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Speaker 1: what some teams, including the Chiefs, are thinking about, especially

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Speaker 1: handing out a big after handing out a big contract

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Speaker 1: to I mispronounce his name every time, Tyrn Matthew. You know,

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Speaker 1: they handed out big money to him, fourteen million a year.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance they may cut Eric Berry because of

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Speaker 1: the money he's commanded now with his current contract and

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Speaker 1: not being able to stay on the field and healthy.

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Speaker 1: Do they want to go back and talk to Justin

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Speaker 1: Houston about maybe playing for them at a lesser I know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Justin Houston, I'm probably saying thanks, but no thanks.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try my chances here in free agency,

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Speaker 1: see if I can get a deal that's commenser with

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Speaker 1: what some of these other guys are signing for, and

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Speaker 1: try to play somewhere else. Signing Perry begins at four,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills expected to announce there seven signings at

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Speaker 1: that point. Meantime, here at one Bills Drive today this morning,

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Speaker 1: brighton early seven am, the UB Pro day was here

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Speaker 1: and some interesting prospects here, including some bonified draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the listener. About twenty prospects here, most

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Speaker 1: of them from the University at Buffalo, including quarterback Tyree Jackson,

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Speaker 1: who is expected to be drafted. Tyree Jackson, as Jordan

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Speaker 1: Palmer said, with the ever president smile on his face

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Speaker 1: as the workouts went on, seemed to throw the ball well,

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Speaker 1: according to all observers here. Plenty of pro scouts here

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Speaker 1: watching Tyree Jackson. They also took a look at Anthony Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver who because of an ankle injury, did

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Speaker 1: not run at the combine a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Reports are he ran about a four four eight, somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the four four eight four point five range for

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Speaker 1: his forty times. Anthony Johnson, Anthony Johnson, Yeah is what

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Speaker 1: I said. Yeah, Anthony Johnson four four eight, four to five.

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Speaker 1: And Khalil Hodge expected to be at least get some

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Speaker 1: draft interests. A linebacker from UB. Another one who worked out,

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Speaker 1: but as I said, there were about twenty of them,

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Speaker 1: including a former prospect from Saint Francis High School right

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Speaker 1: down the road, Jake dola Gala from Central Connecticut State.

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Speaker 1: He threw the ball today. He impressed people with his

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Speaker 1: strong arm today. So it's good to have the bulls here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting atmosphere out there during the workouts, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you how much of it you caught.

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Speaker 1: It's like a lab. I mean, it's it's quiet. You

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Speaker 1: can drop a pin and it's it's unusual, I think.

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Speaker 1: And you watch practice here and there's music blaring and

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Speaker 1: people yelling, and you watch the pro day workouts and

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely quiet. A lot of minds at work, yes,

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Speaker 1: I guess, evaluating talent. Yeah. But we had a good

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Speaker 1: chat with the Jordan Palmer about it a moment ago,

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Speaker 1: and he, of course working with Tyree Jackson the UBU

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Speaker 1: the ub Pro Day today. All right, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little bit of a league wide

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Speaker 1: perspective from our buddy Kim Jones from the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Kim Jones was the first to talk to Odell Beckham Jr.

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Speaker 1: After the trade last night. We'll talk with her about

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Speaker 1: that and about Levi on Bell signing with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: all of that when we come back join us please

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We are following free agency

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Speaker 1: here on One Goes Live. John Murphy and Chris Brown

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: in for the vacationing Steve Tasker. We're here until three

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Speaker 1: o'clock today. One of our favorite guests joins us now

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Speaker 1: and we're happy to have Kim Jones from the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network on the air with this. Kim is, of course

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Speaker 1: an NFL Network reporter. You can see her in NFL

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Speaker 1: Total Access. You can hear her on w FA and

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Speaker 1: radio in New York. Kim, John Murphy and Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: up here. Thank you for joining us, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you're back at it, and you're certainly back at it

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01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: this week, really working pretty hard after your little health

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Speaker 1: scare last late last fall. Good day. I saw it

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: the combine I told you then I will repeat it him.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you back. Thank you, thanks so much, John,

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Speaker 1: and I'm happy to join you guys. Yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on with us. We want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the two big deals in New York, the Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham deal with the Giants, and of course Levion Bell

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Speaker 1: joins the New York Jets. Odell Beckham. You were the

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Speaker 1: first to talk to him after the trade went down

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Speaker 1: last night, right, I don't know that I talked to him,

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know who also talked to him. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about what he said first. Trying to give you

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Speaker 1: a big time credit. What did he say, Well, he

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Speaker 1: told me bittersweet with his feeling about leaving New York.

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: He clearly was still I don't know about the state

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Speaker 1: of shock, but I think he was still shocked about

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Speaker 1: the trade and realizing that his time here with the

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Speaker 1: Giants had ended and he was headed to Cleveland. He

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Speaker 1: did say that he understands the process. It's life. He

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: is a little bit philosophical, and he was last night,

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Speaker 1: and he said that he and Dave Gettleman had a

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Speaker 1: very brief conversation where Getleman told him he was being

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Speaker 1: traded to Cleveland. So I actually found him. He was

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Speaker 1: overseas at the time. I believe he still is, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what time it was for him. It

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 1: was getting late for us here at least in the evening,

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Speaker 1: so it was late over there. But clearly he had

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Speaker 1: been on the phone, and when I talked to him,

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Speaker 1: I found him, like I said, to be a bit subdued,

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Speaker 1: and I think that was because of the shock of

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Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah, so clearly his approach to this was

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: not anything like Antonio Brown. It's not like he was

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: looking to move. He just got the new contract last year.

1330
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Speaker 1: But now that he has been moved, and knowing that

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown got a new contract with more guaranteed money,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you broach the subject with him,

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: but is do you have any inkling as to whether

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Speaker 1: or not new money, new guaranteed money is something that

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Speaker 1: he's contemplating. I did not broach that with O'Dell directly,

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01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: but I can tell you the Beckham camp expect that

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Speaker 1: the contract will be adjusted. So yes, and I reported

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Speaker 1: that today on NFL Network. So there is that expectation

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Speaker 1: from the Beckham camp. I'm not sure that that would

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Speaker 1: surprise John Dorsey. I don't know how he'll react to it.

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Speaker 1: That that is the Beckham camp expectation. Kim Jones joins

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Speaker 1: us Kim and talking about the Odell Beckham deal is

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Speaker 1: Chris reference he just got a new contract extension, which

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: makes this a bit of a head scratch. You're right,

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01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, last of all, they were ready to commit

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: big money in several years of Odell Beckham and they

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Speaker 1: trade him away. I would imagine that's maybe question number

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Speaker 1: one that Dave Gentleman's fielding today. Huh boy, As far

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Speaker 1: as I know, he's not fielding questions, but if he

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Speaker 1: were too, that would be among them. It's been very

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Speaker 1: odd all along Dave with you know, we didn't sign

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Speaker 1: him to trade him kind of saying, and clearly they

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Speaker 1: did sign him, and now they have traded him. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a it's a bit of a scavenger

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01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: hunt to kind of figure out what the Giant's plan

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Speaker 1: is at the moment. As far as we know, they

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Speaker 1: remained committed to Eli Manning Sherm. Pat Shermer said that

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Speaker 1: directly at the combine, Dave's Gentleman was not as direct

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Speaker 1: as the head coach of the Giants in committing to Eli.

1360
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: So I guess what to see how that plays out.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they're going to play games with

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning that I will tell you, and that would

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Speaker 1: be playing a game, and I don't think they're going

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Speaker 1: to do that. So they're committed to a thirty eight

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: year old quarterback, They're going to have a running back

1366
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: who playing one who has an awful lot on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: I think Stakeholn can handle just about anything, but this

1368
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: is going to be a challenge for him without Beckham

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Speaker 1: there to take away some of the attention of a defense.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants plan right now remains a bit of

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Speaker 1: a mystery. Yeah, I mean it's hard to believe that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody on the surface can see that. You know,

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Speaker 1: with the subtractions that the Giants have made and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the additions that their division counterparts have made,

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: that the distance between the Giants and the rest of

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: their division is getting wider and wider. And I know

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Speaker 1: the Giants have eleven draft picks at their disposal, you know,

1378
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: in April, but still in all it's hard to see

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Speaker 1: them in a competitive situation this year coming up. I mean,

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: short of you know, hidden home runs in the draft

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Speaker 1: with every pick you make. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: quiple with any of that. Most of their picks are

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Speaker 1: in the fifth round or later. You don't get a

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Speaker 1: ton of you know, shure bet starters as rookies in

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01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: the fifth round and later you get a few. But

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Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I mean they've been

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Speaker 1: looking up at most of the division for a long

1388
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Speaker 1: time now. The Giants haven't been a good team year

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Speaker 1: after year now for many years. You can go back

1390
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl year of twenty eleven. After that,

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Speaker 1: they've really been very mediocre overall. And I don't I

1392
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: don't know what the expectation could possibly be next season

1393
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: in terms of a positives. I don't know how could

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: at this moment now we don't know everything they're going

1395
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: to do. But I don't know how you would look

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Speaker 1: at that roster right now and say that they will

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Speaker 1: compete in the NFC East for our championship. Kind of

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Speaker 1: a league wide perspective question from you. You would be

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Speaker 1: perfectly situated to answer this. I would think, what does

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Speaker 1: it say when one of the game's biggest stars, if

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Speaker 1: not one of its greatest performers leaves New York and

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Speaker 1: goes to Cleveland. I was thinking about this a lot

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Speaker 1: this morning. That doesn't happen a lot in professional sports.

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, you leave the number one market to go

1405
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: to knock on Cleveland. I mean, I'm sitting here in Buffalo,

1406
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't happen a lot where the number

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Speaker 1: one of the top stars, one of the top marquee

1408
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: names in the game, most marketable players. Yeah, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: goes from New York to Cleveland. What does that say

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Speaker 1: about the league? You think? I think it would say

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Speaker 1: more if he chose it in free agency. Right getting traded?

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Speaker 1: I think it says that Cleveland had the wherewithal and

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Speaker 1: the commitment to make the deal, to make the trade

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Speaker 1: that the Giants were clearly willing to make. So I

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Speaker 1: think it also does say a lot about John Dorsey

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: and his ability to roster build, his ability to strike

1417
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: quickly and be aggressive. And he now has a young

1418
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who is he has given tremendous weapons too. And

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Speaker 1: I would expect I mean Bankers through a ton of

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Speaker 1: touchdown year ago. I certainly wouldn't expect that to change

1421
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: this season. I believe it was Charles Robinson from Yahoo

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: Sports that was also reporting that, you know, gentleman not

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: only spoke to the Browns, he was reaching out to

1424
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: other teams. He even called the Bills last week to

1425
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: gauge any interest on the Bills part in Odell Beckham Junior.

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this was in the works for the better

1427
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: part of a week. I know it kind of came

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01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: to light within the media probably only within the last

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: few days. Is the biggest beef for Giants fans the

1430
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: fact that there's no clear vision that's readily apparent to

1431
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 1: them in terms of building that team back into a contender?

1432
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Is that the biggest issue for Giants fans from what

1433
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: you're hearing, well, I mean, I do think Giants fans

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: that's curious what the plan is. I just think that

1435
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: there is a bit of a contradiction when you commit

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01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: to a thirty eight year old quarterback, no matter his resume. Yeah,

1437
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: although in Eli's case that is a big part of

1438
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: eliatt being a giant still thirty eight year old quarterbacks,

1439
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: but you say goodbye to much younger talent in Landing

1440
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: Collins and now Odell Beckham Jr. So I do think

1441
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: there is a bit of a curious nature to what

1442
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: gentleman is actually doing. Again, one of my concerns is

1443
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: the Giants best player is Saklon Barkley now and the

1444
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: fact that he is going to spend at least the

1445
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: first two years, at the very least the first two

1446
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: years of his rookie contract kind of running around and

1447
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: getting tackled behind the line of scrimmage and pass the

1448
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage for a team that is truly going

1449
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: nowhere when it comes to the playoffs. Can I like

1450
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: the way you refer to Giants fans as curious? I

1451
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: have a feeling when you next time you're on wf

1452
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: an it may be a little bit more than curious.

1453
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: Right the reaction to this Giants fans, Yeah, I don't

1454
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: have a show for a while, so yeah, it could

1455
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: be interesting. Now. Kim Jones from NFL Network is on

1456
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: the line with us. All right, let's talk about New

1457
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: York's other team. And I believe you're in Form Park

1458
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: right now, the headquarters for the Jets, right yep? I

1459
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: sure am big week for the Jets, including the signing

1460
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: of Levon Bell last night. Can first give us your

1461
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: take on Bell, which I guess many people forecast that

1462
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: would be the move a couple of weeks ago, and

1463
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: it took a while, but it finally came through. Huh. Yeah,

1464
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: it's a big move for Sam Donald. You know, you

1465
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: guys know all about building around a young quarterback. This

1466
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: will help him. The Jets didn't do much in terms

1467
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: of past catchers out of the backfield last season. They

1468
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: were amongst the lowest in the league stat wise, so

1469
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: he will now get someone who can be a safety valve,

1470
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: a checkdown. Also, you know, a screen path or whatever

1471
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: you want to do with Lady on Bell in the

1472
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: past game, you can do with him. He can line

1473
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: up in the plot. He can obviously run the ball.

1474
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: So for the New York Jets, I think it's a

1475
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: big move for Donald. I think it's a big move,

1476
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: and I think Bell choosing the Jets and I don't

1477
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: know how many other suitors there were. I don't know

1478
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: how many other competitive offers there were, but I think

1479
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: for a Jets team that has floundered for years now

1480
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: and hasn't made the playoffs into twenty ten, I think,

1481
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: no matter how it happened, a big get Spell picking

1482
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: the Jets and free agency, I think is big for

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Speaker 1: Mike mccagnan, who needs a good free agency and needs

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Speaker 1: a good year this year. And Adam Gays, who obviously

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01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: is in his first year of jetback coach. Yeah, I

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01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: mean they've they've clearly taken an approach, you know, with

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback and Darnold, similar to that of the

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Speaker 1: Bills with some of their free agent moves here on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, they added those two

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: receivers in Crowder and Bellamy. You know, they got the

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: lineman in the trade with the Raiders, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times mccagnan spoke publicly leading

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Speaker 1: up to free agency. I know he spoke at the combine.

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: Was it pretty clear that, you know, weapons around Darnold

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: was the clear aim? Yeah. I think building around Darnold

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Speaker 1: period was the goal. Protection playmakers and even helping the defense,

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Speaker 1: because the defense being better helps everyone involved too, including

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Speaker 1: their quarterback. So I think that anything and everything to

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Speaker 1: make the New York Jets better, you could argue, also

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Speaker 1: helps to make Exam Donald's job, I don't want to

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: say easier, but makes his job one where you can

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01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: expect a lot of improvement this season. I think year

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: one to year two you can certainly expect that improvement.

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Speaker 1: Everything you hear about Donald and his work ethic is favorable,

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: and I do think the Jets clearly believe they have

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback, and these moves I think kind of

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: indicate they want to help him as much as they can.

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01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: Kim did Anthony bars about pace about face rather? Did

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01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: that rattle the Jets at all? Do you think? I

1510
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: know they got Mosley, but what did they make at Bell.

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: That's a heck of a pivot right right point. Yeah, Yeah,

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: I think it did. Also, in the time when he

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: committed to them and then essentially decommitted, a lot of

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: pass rushers went off the board, and they still need

1515
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: a pass rush and they need to find one, so

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: that I think the timing of it and the length

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: of time it took prohibited the Jets from striking quickly,

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: perhaps on another target. So yeah, I think that they were.

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: It was a second year in a row that a

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: player kind of spurned them for the Vikings. Last year,

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01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins after the fact made sure that people knew

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: that he used the Jets to get the offer he

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: wanted in Minnesota, and now bar goes back to Minnesota.

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that the Jets were stung by

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01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: that for sure. And I don't mean to put you

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Speaker 1: on the spot with this. In terms of salary, cab

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: dollars in room and all of that. Kim, But I mean,

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: is it safe to assume that had they been able

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: to land bar, they're probably not in the Bell sweepstaks?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think they still could have fit that

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: under two? They could have fit that under I don't

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: have their number in front of me, but they still

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: could have fitted that under. Okay, Kim, I'm not going

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: to ask you to answer this now, but I will

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: maybe before the season begins. We're watching the Jets moves,

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01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: We're seeing how active the Bills have been with their

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: eight signings this past week. At some point, when the

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: dust settles, we're all going to have to start thinking

1539
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: about it. Who's got the edge now? Bills are Jets?

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 1: Do you agree? Oh? Sure, I think that's natural. Absolutely.

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: I think we all think Miami's probably in for a

1542
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: considerable rebuild. You know, the Patriots or the Patriots and

1543
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: you know how that goes in this division. But yes, sure,

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01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: I think if such natural. You know, hey, who knows?

1545
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: Maybe the plan on Thursday Nightiga, Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah,

1546
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: we'll let the desk settle before we get into that. Kim.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for this. Good to talk to you again. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much. Kim Jones, NFL network reporter.

1549
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: You see her on NFL Total Access, does a little

1550
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: work on w FA and radio in New York, joined

1551
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: us on the Subway fresh Day Hutline, presented by Subway restaurants,

1552
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: probably locally owned and operated. She referred to Jets fans

1553
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: as being curious about the Jets moves. That is the

1554
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: best euphemism maybe ever on this show. They gotta because

1555
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: curious is not the word. I can promise you. They

1556
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: got to be living. I would think, right, oh, they're

1557
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: ready to I mean they're ready to take Getleman and

1558
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: throw them off the cliff into the fire as the sacrifice,

1559
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: unbelieve you know, throw them in the volcano. They're ready

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: to do it. The quote from Getleman, when where is it?

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: I just had it here about ob Ju at the

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: end of the year news conference, right, so what two

1563
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: or three months ago? Two and eight months ago? Get Leman?

1564
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: And again at the combine last month quote we didn't

1565
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: signed Odell to trade him? Okay, well you did apparently right,

1566
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: and they were they were. He was calling teams, I

1567
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: mean he was polling teams to see the level of

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01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: interest and what he might be able to acquire. And

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: here's the other thing, Murf that nobody's really talked about

1570
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: it all today in the wake of the Obj trade,

1571
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: how hamstrung and to what degree did the Steelers have

1572
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: zero leverage in the Antonio Brown situation. I mean, this

1573
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: trade kind of solidifies it because people are like, oh

1574
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: my god, the Steelers got fleeced. They only got a

1575
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: third and a five. What were the Steelers really gonna

1576
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: get for a receiver despite his immense talent when everyone

1577
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: in the league knew they had to move him off

1578
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: their roster. They were not going to get premium a

1579
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: premium return on Antonio Brown because of the circumstance. And

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: proof of that is the Odell Beckham trade where they

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: get a one and a player who may start for

1582
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: them at safety. So they got two draft picks on

1583
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: the first two days and a starter, you know in

1584
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: a player coming back to them for Odell Beckham junior.

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown gets them a three and a five. I mean,

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy that really kind

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: of put the screws to them. I mean, Antonio Brown

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: did it in spectacular fashion. Yeah, for the Steelers, really yeah,

1589
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: But you know what, They'll just make Juju Smith Schuster

1590
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: the new number one receiver, just like they did with

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: Santonio Holmes, just like they did with Plexico Burrist, just

1592
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: like they did with Mike Wallace. And they'll just roll

1593
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: it through. And they have a running back already that

1594
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: had a pretty darn good season last year and James Connor,

1595
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: and they have an offensive line that's one of the

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: best in the league. And they just resigned Ramon Foster.

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: So somehow, some way, I think they're still going to

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: be competitive. They've got more competition on their hands in

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: the form of the Browns. The Browns not just passed

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: them in terms of the prospects for the upcoming year,

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Speaker 1: I would think so. I would say in terms of

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: pure talent, yes, let's see and put it all together.

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: First year head coach, Let's see him put it all together.

1604
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: Watch him. What do you think about the Bills? That's

1605
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today. Which other moves do you like best?

1606
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: So far? On Twitter, we've taken a lot of responses

1607
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: on this. Most people like the addition of the offensive lineman.

1608
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: On Twitter, we asked the question which of the Bills

1609
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: moved so far? Which will be made official at four

1610
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon. What's been your favorite Bills move so far?

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: Seventy percent say the addition of the center, Nick Morrise,

1612
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: twenty percent say Cole Beasley, the wide receiver, seven percent

1613
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: say the wide receiver John Brown, three percent have somebody

1614
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: else in mind on the let's hear you got of mind.

1615
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Give us a call on the tweet sheet from Nick.

1616
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: He said, in my opinion, Josh Allen needs weapons. Yes,

1617
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 1: we all know the offensive line had to be fixed,

1618
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see Alan launched the bomb down

1619
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: field for the touchdown and watch John Brown do his dance.

1620
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: I've had that vision myself. Smoke smoke, yeah, smokey, you

1621
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: called him righter. Was talking about Tiffany Daniels tweets this

1622
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: and Mitch Morse is a huge pickup for the offensive line.

1623
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: He protected for an athletic quarterback in Kansas City. He

1624
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: should have a smooth transition blocking for Josh. His protection

1625
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: stats are impressive across the board. It's a challenge to

1626
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: replace a legend like Eric Wood. Great get by mister Bean.

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: I am surprised, and I get it. Offensive line was

1628
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: important for this team, but to have seventy percent of

1629
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: our respondent say that is the one that they liked

1630
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: the most. Says something about our fan base here, and

1631
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: we've got i'll bet Dave Gentleman, which he wishes he

1632
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: was the GM here in Buffalo, knowing how much he

1633
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: likes the Big Uglies because apparently they're similar support for

1634
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: them in the fan base. A gentleman is in an

1635
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: interesting spot. We do have to quote. Here's what he

1636
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: said that the combine just a couple of weeks ago,

1637
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: when he was asked about, Hey, are you thinking about

1638
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 1: potentially training away Odell Beckham Junior. Here's what Dave Gentleman

1639
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: had to say. I'll say this, it's a repeat of

1640
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: what I said at my postseason pressor. We didn't sign

1641
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: Odell to trade him. Okay, So I know that's all

1642
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: over the place, so understand that, and that's all I

1643
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: need to say about that. He didn't it out, but

1644
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: it was sounded like if you were gonna try to

1645
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: quatch trade rumors about Odell Beckham, that's the kind of

1646
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: thing you would say. And yet a week a week

1647
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: and a half later, there he goes, it's amazing. Look

1648
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: I like Gentleman and I've always liked gut him in

1649
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: days here in Buffalo. He's been on the show several times.

1650
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: Great guy, I think, a good football guy. I see

1651
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: now where people are seeing Gentleman's doing with the Giants,

1652
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: what he did with Carolina, letting their good talent get away.

1653
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a I don't know if

1654
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: that's the right take on it. I don't know if

1655
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: that's happening. But these moves, as Kim pointed out, are

1656
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: at the very least curious and at the at the

1657
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: most alarming. Right, I mean, you're you're traded away one

1658
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: of the top, as you say, marketable talents in the league,

1659
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: one of the top performers in the league. Not just

1660
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: as Odell Beckham junior, a star and a you know,

1661
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: a TV star and a dancer and and a big deal.

1662
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: He is a really good, good player. I mean, he

1663
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: earned the fact to be that kind of a sting.

1664
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: And I think what complicates it is the fact that

1665
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: even the Giants fan base, who you know, Eli Manning

1666
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 1: is a beloved figure on that Giants roster because of

1667
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: the two Super bowls. He delivered that franchise and will

1668
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: always be. But I think even Giants fans see the

1669
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: decline in his game, and to see them hold on

1670
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: to a quarterback that I think even Giants fans thought

1671
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: by this point in time they would have moved on

1672
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: from and instead, in turn, you traded away your two

1673
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 1: best defensive players and Landing Collins and Olivier Verdon, and

1674
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: now you've moved on from your best receiving talent in

1675
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior. I think it's very hard for Giants

1676
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: fans to wrap their head around exactly what the plan

1677
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: is here, knowing that you've got a quarterback who's still

1678
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: on your roster but in decline in terms of his career.

1679
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, this is the amount of

1680
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: rope that Dave Getleman has left the draft. And if

1681
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't take a quarterback with one of those two

1682
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: first round picks, they're going to be at the door

1683
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: with the pitchforks and torches. Yeah, of course they're going

1684
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: to be asking for Dave Getleman's head if he does

1685
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: not draft a quarterback on Day one of the draft.

1686
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: Of course, adding into it, added into it is last

1687
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: year's draft that Gentleman ran when they were in position

1688
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: too right and you know last year's quarterback rich draft.

1689
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: There they sat with number two. They could have had

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, they could have had Josh Shallen, right, they

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01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: could have had Josh Rosen any all but one of them,

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01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: and instead they decided not to and they got a

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: really good running back. But last year's draft figures into

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: the equation we got. At least you can say that

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01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is a generational talent. Yeah, in this year's draft,

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01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: I think there's a strong argument that the generational talents

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: are on the defensive side of the ball at the

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: top of the draft. And so if you're a Giants fan,

1699
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: you're inherent fear after watching what Getleman did last year,

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01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: was with pick six, is he going to take a

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01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: general rational talent on defense and bypass quarterback again? Might

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: be the move to make Chris the pitchforks and torches

1703
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: are going to be out in New York, right or wrong,

1704
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: they will be out if he does not take a

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01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: quarterback somewhere in round one. I know how these New

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: York fans were. Yep, Hey, Giants are interesting, the Jets

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: are interesting, the Bills are interesting with their eight moves

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01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: so far, and I want to know from you what's

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: been your favorite Bills move so far. Let's work in

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: a few phone calls. Jim on the line from East

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01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: Or Hello, Jim, welcome, go ahead, you're on the air

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01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: with us. Good afternoon, guys. Hi. Yeah, I was just

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01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: stay at a question listening to Jordan Palmer. Do you

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: think that or do you know if Jordan Palmer and

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01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: the Bills new quarterback coach Ken Dorsey are on the

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01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: same page in their teachings, are what they're about to teach?

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01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: Because when Josh comes back from from California doing his

1718
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: offseason training, and I was wondering if Dorsey's going to

1719
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: do things that are different than what you know. I

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01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: kind of asked that question Jim right towards the end

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01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: of the conversation with Jordan Palmer, when I said, how

1722
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: do you meld what you do with what the Bills do?

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: His answer was interesting. He said, I don't deal with

1724
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: the playbook. I don't deal with plays And I think

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: the answer is Jordan focuses on passing mechanics, right, He's

1726
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: focused on the mechanics to the game footwork. Yeah, angle,

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: is it exactly what Ken Dorsey and the bills want.

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: I mean, who can take right? Who? Who can know?

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01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know you have a better answer than that, Chris,

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01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: I would think. Look, Jordan Palmer was here today. I'm guessing,

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01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm somewhat certain that he'd spent a little

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01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: time up and the coaching suits up here and talk

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01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: to Ken Dorsey probably, And you know, I would think

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01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: he he would talk to some of the coaches on

1735
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, Brian Dable, et cetera,

1736
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: just to update him. Here's what Josh looks like, here's

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: what we're working on. What do you guys think, what

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01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: do you want right? I would imagine that happened to Yeah.

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a tremendous amount of cross talk.

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Palmer is smart enough to know to

1741
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: stay in his lane. Yeah, And that does not involve

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: the playbook in any way, shape or for him. He says,

1743
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't need the playbook for what I have to

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: do with these guys, whether it's Josh Allen or anybody

1745
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: else he has under his tutelage. So I think he

1746
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: knows what areas of quarterbacking he has to focus on

1747
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: to help those players and he'll let the coaches coach

1748
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: simply put the a'sk your question, Jim So, So the

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01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: quarterback coach just deals with the playbook and how to

1750
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: run the plays and how to execute the plays. Well, no,

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01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's not to say that they're not going

1752
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: to talk to him about mechanics too. They'll serve as

1753
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: a reminder of sorts for those kinds of things also.

1754
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: But I don't think when it comes to technique it's

1755
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: going to run counter to anything that they want done.

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: In terms of what Jordan Palmer's teaching him. He's trying

1757
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,799
Speaker 1: to make him a more accurate thrower, a more consistent thrower.

1758
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any coach in the NFL that's

1759
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: gonna argue with the ways to get there if they

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01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: believe what Jordan Palmer is doing. I'm sure he's run

1761
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: it by the Bills saying, hey, look, this is what

1762
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: I teach. You know, if you don't want that, then

1763
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to talk to Josh because he wants

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01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: to work with me in the offseason to make himself

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01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: a better player. So you know he's still working with him.

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's been any discord in terms

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01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: of the relationship there. So I think everything on the

1768
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: up and up, and I think they're in agreement with

1769
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: the approach that Jordan Palmer has taken to make Josh

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Allen a better quarterback. I'm more consistent quarterback and more

1771
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: effective quarterback. Thanks Jim, I wondered two these coaches, NFL

1772
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: coaches have to look at it like, look, we can't

1773
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: work with them now. So it's it's a benefit to

1774
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: have a qualified coaching instructor, a guy who knows that

1775
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: position work with our guys. Right, they can't work with them,

1776
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: They're prohibited by the CBA to work with them now.

1777
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break. Chris Brown, John Murphy,

1778
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker off today and we're coming back with more.

1779
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: Get more of your phone calls on the topic, spend

1780
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: your favorite bills move so far? What do you think

1781
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: they should do next? Got phone lines open eight o

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01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: three fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We're back with more. One Goes

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health from One Goals Drive. This

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Jenna Murphy and Chris Brown in Today,

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: Chris is here for Steve Tasker. Hey, we talked a

1787
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: lot with Kim Jones about the Giants and coming up

1788
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour, Jordan Ranan, who is the

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01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: ESPN Nation Giants reporter. We'll get deeper into ob j

1790
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: and what the Giants are up to and see if

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01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: he thinks Giants fans are going to be curious about

1792
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: the moves that were made. That's coming up in the

1793
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: next hour. Take a phone call here. We want to

1794
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: know what you think. He has been your favorite moved

1795
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: by the Bills so far this year. Got Leo win

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01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: Mdina on the line. Hello, Leo, Welcome, Welcome to the show. Hey, Hey,

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01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: how you doing, sir? Good sir. I was just like

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, I'm a huge Bills Mafia fan.

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01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: Love what we've been doing. Yeah, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you guys think about not letting Ziggy leave Buffalo. Heard

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01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: that New Orleans Saints and Bills are looking at Ziggy

1802
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: guy from Detroit Lions defensive end. Can't see his last names.

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01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: It's easy, yeah, ziggysa, thank you, thank you. Do you

1804
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: think Murph well, I am not look I like Ziggy onsa.

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01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: It fits a need He's a veteran who has had

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01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: some good moments in the league. But as far as

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01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: don't let him leave the building, that implies you're gonna

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01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: pay him whatever it would take. And I'm not rare

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01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: on Ziggyanza, to be honest with you, knowing that there's

1810
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: a ton of talent edge rush talent, defensive ends and

1811
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: and linebackers in the draft, I don't know. I don't

1812
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: know that I would extend myself as much as you

1813
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: would seem to. Defense would be disgusting if we had him.

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: What's that? I think our defense would be discussed in

1815
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: like sick growth if he had him. They're a pretty

1816
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: good defense last year, him at his best, yes, you

1817
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 1: know him healthy, Yes, And that's what troubles me. Just

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta look at this. You can't look

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01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: at Ziggyanza with rose colored glasses. And I guess what

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01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean by that is you look Over the last

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: three years, there have been a series of injuries. Knee, back,

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01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen that

1823
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: was followed by the shoulder injury this past year. He

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01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: played seven games last year with the shoulder right So

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01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: this is and despite the games that you see him playing,

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01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: he was relatively ineffective in a lot of those games

1827
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 1: because he was playing hurt. So it's been a while

1828
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: since he has been at his best and consistently healthy.

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, you probably would have to go

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01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: all the way back to his Pro Bowl season in

1831
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, when he had fourteen and a half sacks.

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01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: That's the only Pro Bowl he's made in his career. Look,

1833
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the guy is a dynamic, physical talent, and he's even

1834
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: good against the run in terms of setting the edge,

1835
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: which you don't always get with a premium pass rusher.

1836
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: The problem is what is he now? Is he still that?

1837
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Can he still be that? Again? And that's a difficult

1838
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 1: projection to make on a thirty year old player with

1839
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: a laundry list of injuries. Now, if he checks out,

1840
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: his shoulder looks great and he can play well, then yeah,

1841
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: you take the risk at a value that you deem

1842
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: that you can stomach, you know, And what is that

1843
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: is that somewhere between the veteran minimum and you know,

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01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: give him a one year prove it deal. I could

1845
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: get behind that, But if you start signing him to

1846
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: a two, three, four year deal, I get a little

1847
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: nervous about that because I don't know if he's going

1848
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: to be able to live up to it based on

1849
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: what his physical capabilities have been the last three seasons,

1850
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: which is not being able to stay on the field.

1851
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: And we've heard Sean McDermott say this when he's looking

1852
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: at free agent talent and draft talent, the most important

1853
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: ability in the NFL is availability, especially for coach McDermott.

1854
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: He has mentioned that before. So I think they have

1855
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: to be convinced after a medical situation that this is

1856
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: a guy that going forward he can hold up and

1857
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: play every week in the NFL. And Leo to interpret

1858
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: what you say, don't let him out of the building.

1859
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: I think, as Chris pointed out, all the injuries seven

1860
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: games played last year would indicate that you might not

1861
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: want to commit that hard to ANSA. I also think, Chris,

1862
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: here we are with free DNC opening up in two hours,

1863
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and you would think, well, it's just getting started. Maybe not.

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01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean this indicate that no longer the Bills are

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01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: many other teams in the motive. Don't let that guy

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: leave the building, you know what I mean? We are

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01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: sort of I think slowly transitioning to smart moves that

1868
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: you don't get carried away with and you don't commit

1869
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: money that you're not convinced about at this point. Well,

1870
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: and not only that the market has been somewhat set

1871
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: at the pass rusher position. Now you have to decide

1872
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: where on that table does ziggyansa fit based on the

1873
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't been tremendously productive, at least anywhere

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01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: near where he was in his Pro Bowl season of

1875
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I mean, we're not talking about one year

1876
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: of injuries. We're talking twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

1877
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: There's a history here now, and a history that I

1878
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: think gives a lot of teams pause, probably including the bills.

1879
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if yes, you don't

1880
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: have a guy visit unless you are interested. You know

1881
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: that's obvious. But you're probably trying to get the latest

1882
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: medical information on him. You're probably bringing him in for

1883
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,919
Speaker 1: a visit to see how he checks out physically medically

1884
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: before you go any further. And then if those things,

1885
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: if you can check those boxes, well okay, now maybe

1886
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about him in a different light and at

1887
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: a different value. But short of that, you know, I'm

1888
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: looking at a one year, a proven deal. Yeah, I

1889
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: hear you not to say that neither one of I

1890
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: think both of us like Ziggyanzas. No. I like him

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01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: as a player. He's a talent. But am I gonna

1892
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: get him for four games? Am I gonna get him

1893
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: for eight game? What am I getting? It? Behooves the

1894
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: Bills to go cautiously. Yeah, all right, we got an

1895
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: hour ago. Chris Brown is with us and place them.

1896
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker coming up a little bit more in the Giants,

1897
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more about Odell Beckham Junior. What the

1898
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: Giants are up to. We'll talk with Jordan Rann of

1899
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: ESPN Nation covering the New York Giants when we come back.

1900
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I want to hear more from you as well. Which

1901
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: of the Bills move so far do you like the best?

1902
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Give us a call. We've got phone lines open eight

1903
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty and toll free one eight

1904
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Chris and I

1905
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: back with Moore One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

1906
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Stories update. The

1907
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: update from One Bill Drive The Bills about two hours

1908
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 1: away from announcing their class and free agents they've signed

1909
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: so far, About seven names to come out at four

1910
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: pm today, when free agency officially begins, a couple of

1911
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: days after the legal negotiation period. Last night, the Bills

1912
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: agreed to a two year contract, reportedly with former Raiders

1913
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: guard center John Feliciano. According to ESPN, the six foot

1914
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: four in screen or twenty five pound or fourth round

1915
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: picked by Open in twenty fifteen four starts for Feliciano

1916
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: on the offensive line for the Raiders last year. Another

1917
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman announced that he had signed yesterday, former Redskins

1918
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: tackle Tie and Second. He's expected to be announced today.

1919
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Bills also signed a couple of wide receivers Cole Beasley

1920
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: and John Brown yesterday, also Frank Gore tight and Tyler Croft,

1921
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: center Mitch Moore, all of them their names expected to

1922
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: be revealed officially at four o'clock this afternoon, when free

1923
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: agc begins around the league. The Chargers reportedly have agreed

1924
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: to terms with quarterback Tyrod Taylor. There'll be a Los

1925
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: Angeles Charger now behind Philip Rivers, potentially a two year deal.

1926
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Raven's busy today signing ct Earl Thomas to a four

1927
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: year contract fifty five million dollars and running back mark

1928
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Ingram to a three year, fifteen million dollars deal. Last night,

1929
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: the New York Jets signed up leving On Bell the

1930
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 1: four year, fifty two and a half million dollars contract

1931
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: thirty five million guaranteed with a maximum value of close

1932
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: to sixty one million. Bell did not play last year.

1933
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: He sat out, not appreciating his contract from the Steelers.

1934
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns made the big move last night, acquiring

1935
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior from the New York Giants and a

1936
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: massive deal and comes just less than a year after

1937
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Beckham signed a big contract with the New York Giants,

1938
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: and Giants get the Browns first pick in the first round,

1939
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: seventeen overall and second third round pick and next month

1940
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: draft along with safety Jabrol Peppers center Matt Partis, who

1941
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: had been linked to the Buffalo Bills, decided instead to

1942
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: sign with the Denvers to replace Ryan Khalil, a deal

1943
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: worth twenty seven million dollars. Kansas City Chiefs have agreed

1944
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: to trade Edge Rusher D four to the forty nine Ers,

1945
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: and the ub Bulls had their pro day here today

1946
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: with about seventeen players participating, including quarterback Tyree Jackson, running

1947
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver Anthony Johnson, the linebacker Khalil Hodge. That's the

1948
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: update from One Bill Drive. It is the official start

1949
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: day for a free agency, but not quite as busy

1950
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: as yesterday. Joining us to talk about the events of

1951
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. Happy to have ESPN NFL

1952
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: Nation reporter covering the New York Giants. Jordan ran Ann

1953
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: on the line. Hi, Jordan, John Murphy and Chris Brown

1954
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining you gotta guys,

1955
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: what's going on today? Oh, just a few things, you know,

1956
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: some signings here and there. Drew, we just got another one. Like, Yeah,

1957
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: Bills have been busy, but the Seattle just signed the

1958
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Jets kicker away from them. Jason Myers All, Yes, so

1959
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: did I did see that? He Jan Yeah, kicker. You

1960
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: had an interesting tweet last night that I was looking

1961
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 1: over this morning. Your last comment of the night, Odell

1962
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 1: Beckham junior will thrive from a football perspective in Cleveland.

1963
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Best thing that could have happened to him. You said that. No,

1964
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: it's not a quote from anybody, right, yep? No, No,

1965
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, there's a lot of people

1966
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: that think that. I mean, let's be honest, the Giants,

1967
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: as good as their offense was, they're sucking in Eli

1968
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Manning circle here, right. That's just I mean, he's at

1969
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 1: the end of his career. He's an older quarterback who

1970
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: his play is dipped in recent years, and he's going

1971
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to a team that has all these really good young

1972
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 1: pieces on offense and especially at that quarterback position. I mean, look,

1973
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield NFL rookie record for touchdown passes as a quarterback.

1974
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: So I just think football wise, because let's be honest,

1975
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: you don't know who the Giant's future franchise quarterback is

1976
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 1: right now. From a football perspective, I think it's it's

1977
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,799
Speaker 1: great for Odell. I mean, his future is much brighter

1978
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: on an organization right now that has a quarterback set,

1979
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: and I mean he looks like he has the potential

1980
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: to be special and how and speaking a quarterback, Jordan,

1981
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta believe that if gentlemen does not

1982
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback early, I mean, Giants fans are going

1983
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: to be at his door with pitchforks and torches. I mean,

1984
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: he's got to take a quarterback now. Doesn't he. I

1985
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: think they would like him to take a quarterback, and yes,

1986
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: they need a quarterback, a future franchise quarterback for sure.

1987
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: But what I do think this move does is it

1988
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: signalifies a rebuild. Right this Giants are rebuilding. You don't

1989
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: just straight odell Beckham and not think you're not rebuilding.

1990
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: They are. They've made mistakes in the past, They've made

1991
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: mistakes last year big time by mis evaluating the team,

1992
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and now they're rebuilding. So that actually buys them a

1993
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: little extra time probably, like they're not pigeonholding to saying, well,

1994
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 1: we need a quarterback badly quickly. I think there's a

1995
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: possibility they're not in love with these years quarterback or

1996
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, one goes up the board, maybe with the

1997
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: first pick, that that there's their preference, and they push

1998
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 1: back the decision just one more year. But yeah, Giantmans

1999
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: will be up in arms and that obviously they Until

2000
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you have that guy, you really have nothing, right. I mean,

2001
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: you know what it's like, you know what it's like

2002
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Yeah, it's like you're running, You're running on

2003
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: the treadmill and you'll look up and you're in the

2004
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: same spot twenty minutes years later. So so the more

2005
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: you think about this, Jordan, and I've kind of openly

2006
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: thought this myself in light of these moves or lack thereof,

2007
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: that the Giants have made. If you're Dave Gentleman, you

2008
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: have to have a ridiculous amount of assurance from mister Mara,

2009
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: mister Tish, whoever it is, that you're gonna be there

2010
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: for a while, because this is not something you're fixing

2011
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: this year or next year. I mean, we're talking about

2012
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: a three or four year rebuild. Dave Gentleman's not making

2013
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: these moves unless he has assurances from on high that

2014
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there for a while. Right, Yeah, man,

2015
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone anyone in this league gets

2016
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: three or four years of assurance, but yeah, you're right.

2017
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he definitely stayed four and twelve this year,

2018
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: is not going to be out of a job. They

2019
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: when they make this decision to trade Odell Beckham, it's

2020
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: pretty much signifying that, Okay, you know, we know this

2021
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: is a project here. We know we're in this situation,

2022
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: and part of it is, Look, Dave Getleman was part

2023
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: of the misjudgment last offseason, A huge part of it

2024
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: right about how they sort of rebuilt last year. They

2025
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 1: had a new coach and new GM. I mean, I've

2026
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I've been over this one thousand times junior year, a

2027
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: new coach and new GM at thirty seven year old

2028
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: quarterback the number two overall picked it was the perfect

2029
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: time to rebuilt, and they didn't do it. And they

2030
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: committed to ELI for another year, and they committed they

2031
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 1: signed Odella a long term deal. But what might value

2032
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: Dave geentleman, Sometimes you have to realize when those decisions

2033
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: are made on the best quarterback en tranchise history and

2034
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: this transcendent wide receiver, they signed a record deal for

2035
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Ownership is involved in that level two, right,

2036
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: So they were part of this incorrect evaluation of the

2037
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: roster last year. And that in general I think buys

2038
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 1: they've get him in a little extra time is that

2039
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 1: you can't just pin it on him. That ownership was

2040
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: a huge part of that decision to make the sort

2041
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: of travel the wrong route on the line with Jordan

2042
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: Ranany is ESPN NFL Nature reporter covering the New York

2043
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Giants earlier today, Jordan, you had another tweet an interesting

2044
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 1: quote from Dave Gettiman at the combine. I want to

2045
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this. You said, get him and

2046
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: said at the combine. Part of the responsibility of the

2047
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: general manager is to eliminate distractions. And you're saying that

2048
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: he viewed Odell Beckham as a distraction and if so

2049
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: in what ways? Yes, My take on this and everything

2050
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: I've people I've talked too and everything ever heard, is

2051
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: that that's sort of the organizational for you, like they

2052
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, there was just there's just things that come

2053
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: along with Odell, with some of the things he says,

2054
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: some of the things he and they viewed it as

2055
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 1: a distraction, playing and simple, and his relationship with Pat

2056
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Schremer had towered a little bit. I mean, pas Schremer

2057
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: came in and tried and that was one of his things.

2058
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: He was going to try to cultivate that relationship with him,

2059
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: and it just didn't work. They butted heads right from

2060
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: the beginning. Shermer actually tried to was pushing him time

2061
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: to get on the field and in preseason games, and

2062
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: that didn't go well. Then the interview with just See

2063
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: Anderson and little Wayne really irk them and so it

2064
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: really it didn't They didn't develop that great bond. There

2065
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: was a little headbutting between the two and that made

2066
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: it easy for Dave Gelman and Passchrmer to say, look,

2067
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: we don't want this, so we don't want to deal

2068
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: with this long term. Now. The flip side is that's

2069
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: the distraction and the team thinks it's a distraction because

2070
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: players are getting questions. Players don't care about it. They

2071
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 1: love this guy. The locker room is never has never

2072
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 1: turned on Odell Beckham. Despite money, of opportunities, You've never

2073
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: You'll never get anybody to turn on him. I mean,

2074
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: he's very well like, he's a hard worker. So the

2075
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: distraction part is probably more the team's opinion than the

2076
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: player's opinion. Are the Cleveland Brown's ready to deal with that?

2077
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Do you think? Or does that end now that Odell

2078
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 1: has a new venue. They got a lot of personalities there.

2079
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: It's not gonna end. Odell is who is. Yeah, it's

2080
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: not gonna change, and they have a lot of personalities there.

2081
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 1: And I think they're more I think that they're actually

2082
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: more open to it. And I think that we can

2083
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: see by this movement like they're open to bring that

2084
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: into their lacker room. No, I don't I don't know

2085
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: how much it played into the Bills, but we know

2086
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: the Bills kind of dipped their feet into the water

2087
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, Yeah, reportedly, Yeah, they at least

2088
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: considered it. As far as I'm that I'm aware of.

2089
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: I know that, So I don't know how serious, but

2090
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I do know that they they checked into it, and uh,

2091
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: you know you that's part of the equation that I'm

2092
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: sure the Bills and every other team looks into. I

2093
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 1: mean everybody I heard the Browns did plenty of due diligence.

2094
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: I Odell Beckham junior, but it helps that his best buddy,

2095
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Jervis Landry's there, his former wide receiver's coach at LSU.

2096
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: Also with the Giants who's very close with Odell. He's

2097
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: the wide receiver coach, Adam Henry, a very good coach,

2098
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: has their tremendous demands, tremendous respect from these guys, and

2099
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: was probably the guy who had best in Odell's ear,

2100
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: who who could you know, grab his ear and have

2101
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: that voice would be that voice of reason. So that's

2102
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: why Cleveland I think made a lot of sense for

2103
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: them and for them they were able to say, yeah,

2104
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: we could do this. We could make this work. So Jordan,

2105
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So as much flak as

2106
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Speaker 1: Getleman is getting now, perhaps he's not super interested in

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Speaker 1: this year's quarterback class, what about a duover on last

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Speaker 1: year's quarterback class. Do you think he's done trading? I

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01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: mean he's made two trades already with Cleveland got alignment

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01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: and a safety back from them, along with a couple

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Speaker 1: of draft choices. What do you think the chances are

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Speaker 1: that Dave Gettleman talks turkey with Steve Kime in Arizona

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Speaker 1: about Josh Rosen. I would expect them to talk. I

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Speaker 1: would think that that's a due diligence. There would absolutely

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Speaker 1: be done. I don't know if the Giants ultimately pulled

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Speaker 1: the trigger. And I say this because you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They weren't in love with him last year.

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Speaker 1: I know they liked him a little bit, but they

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01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: weren't in love with him. And you already passed on him.

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Speaker 1: Unless the price is extremely cheap, it seems like you're

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01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of settling. And if there's a quarter if there's

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01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: a position that you don't want to settle on, it's

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Speaker 1: probably quarterback, right, So I think I would say it's unlikely,

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01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: but not imply not impossible. You join based on the

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01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: turnout of Giants personnel at Kyler Murray's Pro day today.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's on their list. That's somebody you are at

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01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: least taking a look at today. Absolutely, you gotta right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're in the market for quarterbacks. They're

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01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: not shy about that, and you gotta go and look

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01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 1: at all the top quarterbacks and get as much information

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Speaker 1: as humanly possible. They'll meet with very tonight, I believe afterwards.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, they sent a big time crew

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Speaker 1: there offensive quartering in Mike schul head coach Pat Shermer,

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01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a player evaluation head, Chris Marrow who happens to be

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Speaker 1: an owner. You know, So those guys don't go to

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Speaker 1: Joe Schmo Pro Day. Those guys go out to Pro

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01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: days when it's a big time when you need that

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01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: level of coaches and breath to to get their you know,

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01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: compile an opinion on speaking to a player when you

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01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: sit down and getting personal time with him and watching

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01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: him throw in a in a more relaxed setting with

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Speaker 1: receivers that they're used to. So, yeah, the Giants are

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01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: definitely looking hard into that one they're gonna look hard at.

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01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: That'll be at every top quarterback in this draft. You'll

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01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: see that at Ohio State with their Dayne Haskins. You'll

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01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: see that in Missouri, which is luck. You'd probably see

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01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: that a duke with Daniel Jones and no last thing

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Speaker 1: for you, Jordan's um. If we had an earlier guest

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01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: on our show today described the mood of Giants fans

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01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 1: as curious about Dave Gentleman's movement. I would think curious

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01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: is severe understatement right among the fans. I think I

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01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: think curious, curious. Maybe maybe she did some letters. I mean, yeah,

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01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: there's I mean, look, I mean Peter King called the

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01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:30,719
Speaker 1: Giants an expansion seems I'm paraphrasing an expansion team roster

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01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 1: with a great running back. That's what Dave Gentleman has

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01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: assembled right to this point. So it's hard to do.

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01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's true. That's the thing. It's that this

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01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: enchantment right now is more about they botched it last year.

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01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 1: We all know it. It was it was obvious that

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01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: they should have done it last year. Why should we

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01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: have confidence they're going to get it right now? They've

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01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: already proven that they're isn't making process or is could

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01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, isn't perfect that they could it could be

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01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 1: greatly flawed. So that's why I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of downs like, Okay, maybe this is the right move.

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01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: I think. I think there's a lot of people out there,

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01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 1: even the ones that love Hodell, we'll look at and

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01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: be like, well, the team needed to come get into

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01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: a complete rebuild, mude, but do we really trust it?

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01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 1: There is this organization which hasn't made a lot of

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01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: good decisions lately and missed the playoffs in six or

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01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: seven years? Uh, you know, are they Are they going

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01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: to be able to get it right? Good question? Jordan,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for this good talking when you thank you very much.

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: You gotta guys, you have a good one, right. Okay,

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01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: keep signing those players up there. Yeah, eight and in

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Speaker 1: the day and a half, eight players. We'll keep it coming.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have won them. Okay out thanks Jordan. Jordan

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Speaker 1: from World ESPN, NFL Nation Reporter covers the Giants showing

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01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,879
Speaker 1: us on the subway fresh Take hotline presented by subway

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01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: restaurants probably be locally owned and operated. Yeah, furious, not

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01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,879
Speaker 1: curious like a lot. Yeah, and look people will react

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01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: free agency. You could argue that you'll react when you're

2184
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: signing players and I like this guy, like this guy,

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01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: But man, that's a serious talent drain in New York

2186
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: with the Giants and now, but several years a roster

2187
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: that didn't have a lot of it right and several

2188
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: years of disappointment and underachieving, something's up there. He's got

2189
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do to get that team

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01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: back to just being competitive in their own division, let

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01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 1: alone the league. And I mean, short of some dramatic moves,

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01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at a long build there. I mean, I'm

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01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking three four years before you have that roster

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01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 1: at a point where they can compete in a division

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01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: that has big market teams that spend a lot of money.

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01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 1: You gotta get it right and right in a hurry.

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01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: But I think it's a long way off. Unfortunately, there's

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01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: too much to fix now, it's too much. The list

2199
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: is too long. You can't get it all done in

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01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: a year, two years. It's going to take three or

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01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: four years. That's what made you made a good point

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01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: about the gentleman apparently feeling comfortable in his position. He's

2203
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 1: got to you, you're not making these moves unless you

2204
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: know you're going to be there for a while. And

2205
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: if not, then then that's your fault, buddy. I mean,

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01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, like you said, Gettleman's a

2207
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 1: nice guy, but man, he's uh, he's really stacked the

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01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: deck against himself to be successful here for a for

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01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: a period of time. The Giants, the oldest school of

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01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: all the old school franchises are the Steelers. I'm in

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01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: terms of what like just doing it the old way. Yeah, old,

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01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, clinging to old fashioned values sometimes and maybe

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01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, I would say Eli here, you know,

2214
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,759
Speaker 1: maybe just staying too long with a veteran quarterback who's

2215
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: had tremendous success. Yeah, and who knows whose fault that is.

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01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, for all you know, Gettleman may have been

2217
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 1: told in no on certain terms, we are not parting

2218
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: ways with Eli until he's done playing. He might be

2219
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: facing that prospect and then and if that's the case,

2220
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 1: then I tell them, well, when we stink for the

2221
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: next three years with Eli, you're gonna give me another

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01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 1: three years after that to get it fixed. Nobody talks

2223
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: on their owner like that, though nobody can talk to

2224
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: their owner like that. You can't. You can think it,

2225
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: you can point it out. Well, okay, I'll do be

2226
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: thinking it all right. Yeah. Hey, well, I don't know

2227
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: from you the Bills moves they're going to announce him

2228
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 1: at four. We want to know what's been your favorite

2229
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: so far. We have time to talk about it on

2230
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: the phone lines eight O three oh five fifty and

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01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 1: fifty cent in a tweet, what do you like? Most

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01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: of our respondents like the edition of Mitch Morse the

2234
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: Center like. Seventy percent of the respondents say that's a

2235
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: move they like the most. We've got the twenty percent

2236
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: saying they like the slot receiver Cole Beasley. Is your

2237
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: favorite Bills move so far? Only seven percent say John

2238
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Brown the initition of John Brown, that's my favorite move.

2239
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Three percent have something else in mind. Let's talk about it.

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01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Tweeting your response at one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live your favorite Bills move so far eight O three

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01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: oh five fifty or toll free one eight eight eight

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01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty Chris, I asked you earlier

2244
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,839
Speaker 1: in the show. First hour of the show, Tyrol Williams

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01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Wide receiver from the Chargers unrestricted free agent had been

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: linked in some quarters to the Buffalo Bills. He is

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01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 1: no longer a free agent. Adam Schefter reports Tyrol Williams

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01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: intends to sign with the Oakland Raiders now, which is

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01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: a good moving Now the Raiders look at what they've

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01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: got now, and Evan Silva tweeted this out there skill

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01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: position corp of the Raiders, Derek Carr quarterback. I think

2252
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:24,719
Speaker 1: they're fine there. Wide receivers, Antonio Brown, Tyron Williams, Jordy Nelson.

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01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Tight ends Lee Smith, the former Bill,

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01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Derek Carrier, Darren Walker, running back, Jalen Richard, DeAndre Washington,

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01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 1: Chris Warren. Look, I'm not a Raiders fan, but it

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01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: seems to me they've taken a pretty big step forward

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01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: with the addition, especially of Antonio Brown, Tyrone Williams and

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01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: adding him to Jordy Nelson, who could be a nice

2259
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: role player for them to draft some linemen, and they

2260
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,839
Speaker 1: have to draft a running back to add to that offense.

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01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, their defense needs a lot

2262
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: of help, so they still don't have a pass rusher,

2263
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to use one of their first

2264
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: round pick, and they've got three first round picks. Yeah,

2265
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 1: they pick four and I think twenty five and twenty

2266
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: seven or something like that. So they've got draft capital

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01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: to improve the other side of the ball and maybe

2268
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 1: fill in some pieces on offense that might not be

2269
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 1: as deep as they want it. But they've got to

2270
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: fix their lines, is what they've got to do. And

2271
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: they've done really nothing but subtraction at this point because

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01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: they traded Osamelle, you know, to the Jets. So we'll

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01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: have to see. We'll have to see, because it's gonna

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01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: they still have work to do. I mean, they've got

2275
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,799
Speaker 1: some shiny new toys, but if you don't have lines,

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01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do a whole lot. I don't care

2277
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: who you got. Ye hear, what's been your favorite bills

2278
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: moved so far? On the tweet sheet from Scott, he

2279
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 1: says Cole Beasley will have the biggest impact in wide

2280
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 1: receiver production. The guy runs great, great routes and is

2281
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: always open, and as Chris pointed out, he'll be He

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01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: will develop, you would think, quickly into a favorite target

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01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: for Josh Right. You would think. I just think it's

2284
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: going to facilitate Josh is passing in a couple of ways.

2285
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Number One, he's very often going to be a check

2286
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: down option that's a high percentage throw in most cases.

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: Number Two, he's great at getting separation. His routes are

2288
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: going to typically be shorter than most of the other guys,

2289
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: so he stands to be open sooner. So you know,

2290
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of elements at play

2291
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: here where it would not surprise me at the end

2292
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: of this twenty nineteen season if he's got the most

2293
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 1: targets of anybody and maybe the most receptions, we'll see.

2294
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Also from the tweet sheet from Darryl f twenty nine

2295
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: says for me, it's Mitch Morse. Not only does not

2296
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: only does he vastly improve the blocking in front of

2297
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but it also helps in terms of being

2298
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 1: able to make the line calls and allowing Josh to

2299
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: focus more on the coverage. That's huge for a young quarterback.

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01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: I think, Mitch Morse, I think those two should get together,

2301
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: like before April fifteenth, when they come here, I really do,

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01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: just get together, talk to each other. Those two are

2303
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: got to be closed. Go hang out, yeah, hang all right,

2304
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: hang a little bit call here on the line on

2305
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 1: this issue, Robert and Buffalo. Go ahead, Robert, you're on

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01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: the air with this, Okay. My favorite player was yeah,

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01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris the center. Yeah, why yeah, of course. I

2308
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: mean we've lost when we lost Richie, remember that when

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01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: he's like a pulling guard or or something like that,

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01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 1: and they say he did not even do this. Also,

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01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: but I also like the one that they got from Washington,

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Speaker 1: So the vegan pulling guard like Richie, Richie was we

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01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 1: got our line back and you just went they just

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01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 1: won't back um the running back, Um Frank Gore, Yeah,

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01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 1: Frank Yeah, Frank Gore. Yeah. A lot of people, a

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01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, giving up on them on

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01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: mc coorey and Gore. But believe me, you put lying

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01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,759
Speaker 1: around him. Come on, Yeah, I don't know that Inseci

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01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,600
Speaker 1: the lineman from Washington that would look to be a

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01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: pulling guard. He is kind of a jackackle. He's not

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01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: doing any of that. Long can do it, um, Spencer

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01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Long or they got from the Jets early because he

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01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: was a cap casualty of the Jets. You know, they

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01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: signed him what was it that was back in February,

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01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, and then you've got more I mean these

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01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: are two more mobile athletic guys. I mean the Bills

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 1: can actually run screenplays again, something they couldn't do last

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01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 1: year because of a lack of mobility on the part

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01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: of their alignment. So you know that's those are two

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01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: guys that fit the Bill there for that. So that's

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01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 1: an extra part of Brian Dables playbook that suddenly is

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01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: available to him again. Go here from Tom and fort Erie.

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01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Hello Tom, Welcome, Hey guys. I want to say my

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01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 1: favorite move is Beasley so far, but ultimately my favorite

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01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 1: thing they're doing is they're showing leadership Day one, Day two.

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: They're going after exactly what they need. They have a plan.

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01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: The end of last year, it's seen a lot of

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: people were starting to lose faith maybe in this management group,

2339
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 1: and I haven't. I've been very impressed so far. A

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01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver, center, offensive line, you know, veteran running back there.

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01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 1: They have a plan and they're attacking it. I love it. Well,

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01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: they're bold, right Tom, and I think we notice that

2343
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: right off the bat, you know, right when you know

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01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Brandon me got in here after the draft a couple

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01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: of years ago, but he didn't take long that the

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: summer to start making moves, start making trades, you know,

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01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: dealing the way Sammy Watkins and Ronald Darby. So I

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01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: think they're they're daring nature. As a general manager in

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01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: a personnel department, their boldness is really the defining characteristic. Um.

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01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, they get to this uh free agency period

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01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 1: and I think I know a lot of people not

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01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: turned off, but a lot of people were less and

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01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 1: impressed when Brandon being talked about judicious spending in free agency.

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01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 1: They've done that, but that did not necessarily mean that

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01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 1: they were going to sit back and on their hands

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01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 1: in free agency. They they've got and arguably Morris is

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01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: really the only guy they broke the bank on here. Yeah,

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01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody else is signed to relatively reasonable market

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01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: value contracts based on the numbers that we have seen

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: to this point. So you know, I think for the

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01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: most part they have been judicious. And the one thing

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01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: that they felt they absolutely have to have they paid

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01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: a premium for, and that was Mitch Morse. Yeah. We

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01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: had Mike Janety from Spot Trek in here yesterday, yes yesterday,

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01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: and he kept talking about how not you know, and

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01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: he's a guy who he's a football guy, but he

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01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 1: crunches the number. He crunches numbers, and he was raving

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01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 1: about the deals that they've made with the Again, Morris

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01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: is the big money deal. But the deal with Cole

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01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: Beasley and the deal with John Brown and twenty nine

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01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Yeah, he's right, those are good numbers. Hey.

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: From the tweet sheet, what's been your favorite Bills move

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01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 1: so far? Tony m says, there's something to like about

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01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: every free age and signed by the Bills. Now let's

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01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: top it off with an edge rusher and maybe another

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01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Gives us ultimate flexibility in the draft. Still

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 1: need the big X receiver. Maybe Metcalf at number nine

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01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: would not be opposed to training down five or six

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01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: spots for an extra pick as well. Is Metcalf on

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01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: the table off the table as of today, Chris, what's

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01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 1: your take on that? Stevie Tasker and I think had

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of a disagreement about that. I would

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01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: think that they'll spend the next six weeks leading up

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01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: to the draft taking a deeper look now at DK

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Metcalf and see what's up with him about his college career,

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01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 1: See what's up with him As far as you know

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01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,879
Speaker 1: the test, he was not so strong in at the combine,

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01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: but make sure that he is not the kind of

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01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 1: great potential X receive even that this franchise, in any

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01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: franchise could use. I think based on his combined performance,

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01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: he showed that he might be that guy. I'm not

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01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: willing to sign on yet, But spend the next six

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 1: weeks until the draft and figure it out, right. And

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01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, finding a number one early

2395
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: in the draft is off the table by any means.

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01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: But you do look at all this offensive talent that

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01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: has been acquired early here in the free agent market,

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01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: and you wonder you are the Bills playing the draft

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01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: board a little bit based on what they've done in

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01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: free agency. And what I mean by that is, you know,

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: the consensus is that probably nine to ten of the

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01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 1: first thirteen choices in this draft are going to be

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01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, and probably all

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01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: nine of them are going to be defensive alignment, either

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01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: defensive end or defensive tackles. So, knowing that sitting there

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: at nine, do you address Yes, you address all these

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: needs offensively because you had to. But by the same token,

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01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: have you positioned yourself where if the best player on

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: the board is a pass rushing defensive end. You can

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01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: add that at nine. They're getting there and then worry

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01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 1: about receiver later. I think it's the pendulum is swinging

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01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 1: in that direction right now based on what has been

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01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: done in free agency to this. I agree with that.

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01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: I just want to know, and there's six weeks to

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01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: do this. I don't want a decision now. You don't

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01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 1: need a decision now. I just want to know the DK.

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01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: You're not going to miss something big with DK Metcalf.

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01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 1: He was was a big splash at the Combine two

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01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Could be something really big there, like a

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01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 1: big time playmaking receiver any team would want. I would

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01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 1: like to make sure over the next six weeks. Okay,

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01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: who are you putting on that? Not me? Okay, I've

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01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: already got John Brown for the team. I oh, oh,

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01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 1: your work is done. You can kick back and a

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01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about this. Let's hear from you. Two.

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01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Bills move so far plus NFL two

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Speaker 1: or false? Allow that when we come back. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio Show. Is One Bill's Live.

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01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: It comes in from One Bill's Drive. I'm Jim Murphy.

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01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is in for Steve Tasker, and we want

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01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 1: to talk with you. What's your favorite Bills move so far?

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01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight O three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: A couple of calls here, Jim in Lakeview, New York. Colo, Jim,

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01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us high Yeah, Hi, guys.

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01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 1: My favorite move is the receivers. I think we signed

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01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: them for really good value. I also, like, you know,

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01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: a couple observations on that. I think it's going to

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01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 1: affect the draft and it's gonna keep, in my opinion,

2441
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 1: a good thing. It's going to keep the Bills from

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01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 1: using that nine pick for a wide receiver. I think

2443
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: that would be a mistake. And John I have to disagree.

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01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't care what the Bill is doing the next

2445
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: six weeks. They're not going to be able to determine

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01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 1: whether metcalf is going to be all woke. It's just

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01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 1: it's just an unknown. My second thing, and I really

2448
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: think Josh needs these weapons. My other thing is I

2449
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: wonder about the impact on the roster specifically, is a Jones.

2450
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: I think this might spell the end for Za Jones,

2451
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: and I like him as a locker room guy, but

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02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: he has so many weaknesses as a wide receiver. You know,

2453
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 1: he can't create separation. And if he can't do that, well,

2454
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 1: you better be good at making tough catches and never

2455
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 1: dropping the ball, and he does. He seems to be

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02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: mediocre and all these things. So I'm I'm pleased with

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02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 1: the moves for experienced, uh productive veteran wide receivers. I

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02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 1: think that's going to help. I think it's going to

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02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 1: change the roster a bit, and I think I'm thankful

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02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: that it'll it'll hopefully keep the Bills from wasting that

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02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: pick on a rookie wide receiver. Just my thoughts. Okay,

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02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: Um Jim makes an interesting point about Za Jones. I mean,

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02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: they're all affective. When you add two veterans to the

2464
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: depth chart and wide receiver, they're all affected. But maybe

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02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 1: no one gets it's far potential plane time cut, potential role.

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02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Maybe z A Jones the biggest price of that. I

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02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: think you have to see what Brian Dable turns to

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02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,840
Speaker 1: offensively with these additions. Does do the dynamics of personnel

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02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 1: usage change based on the talent that he has. I mean,

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02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: Zay Jones was kind of trending towards being more of

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02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: a slot guy towards the end of last season, and

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02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 1: slot is where he played the majority of his college

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02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 1: career at East Carolina. The problem is his strength is

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02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: finding the soft spots in zones against zone coverage. He's

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02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 1: really good at finding the open areas and being available

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02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: for his quarterback when it comes to press man. That's

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02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: when I had agree with the caller. He has trouble

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02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:49,280
Speaker 1: getting separation and winning off of press man. So maybe

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02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: he can get better at that. I mean, we know

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02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:53,800
Speaker 1: he's a diligent worker, but he's got to get better

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02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: at that if he's going to find his way back

2482
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 1: on the field. Knowing that Cole Beasley going in walking

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02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 1: in the door is the starting slot receiver here going forward. Now,

2484
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you can't go double slots. I

2485
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 1: mean the Patriots have made a living in their passing

2486
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: game doing that and going four wide, and we really

2487
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen that here with any regularity since chan Gailey

2488
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: was running the offense and he ran you know, the

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02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,200
Speaker 1: four wide sets with the one back when cj was

2490
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 1: running back there. So if that turns into an option,

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02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 1: then I think day Jones is unaffected. But if they're

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02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 1: going to continue to go with eleven personnel and go

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02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, three three wide with a tight end in

2494
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,400
Speaker 1: the back, you know, jones playing time could be cut

2495
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: into severely. Thanks for your call. Let's go to Jeff

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Speaker 1: in New York City. Hello, Jeff, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: How you guys doing? Okay? I have a couple of

2498
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 1: quick question, Um, you guy that you already answered it

2499
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 1: on the graffe of Matcalf, But I wanted to know

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02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 1: what are the chance of the Bills go after this

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02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 1: um lineman at uh from the pan Day Williams And uh, yeah,

2502
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what if um because the zego, Yeah,

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02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: what's a chance of them getting him? And uh? One

2504
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: more question and the draft? Do you see the Bills

2505
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 1: going aufter the running back? Because knowing that McCoy and

2506
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 1: Gore on the last year and a thirty, do you

2507
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 1: see them getting a running back like that? Love guy?

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02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: And uh? Okay, good? Three interesting questions, Jeff. Let's start

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02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: with the back end there in the running back, Yeah,

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02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: I would think maybe not the premium pick. Here's Chris

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02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, they should be looking at running backs,

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02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: maybe even in the free agent rookie free agent market.

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02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 1: I would think, right, they got you. He mentioned Bryce

2514
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 1: Love specifically. The one thing you could do is you

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02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 1: could probably get Bryce Love. You'd buy low because he's

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02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's got an ecl injury and he might

2517
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 1: even have to red shirt his rookie year based on

2518
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 1: the degree of his recovery or the success rate of

2519
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 1: his recovery. Um, and you've got a year to burn

2520
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: with the offensive backfield that you have. Uh So, I

2521
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 1: mean you couldn't. I would be inclined to think, knowing

2522
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: that you've got two all three of these running backs

2523
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: are on the final year of their contracts, that you

2524
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 1: need to get a young running back in the pipeline

2525
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: here in the draft or as you said, undrafted. The

2526
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 1: problem is, the running back class doesn't go terribly deep

2527
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 1: this year. It's not a great running back class with

2528
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: a lot of depth where you can find a great

2529
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: player in the sixth or seventh round or even as

2530
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 1: an undrafted player like a Philip Lindsay, who was you know,

2531
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: a wonder kin for Denver this past year and went

2532
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. So he was undrafted, so you know,

2533
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 1: you one year is different from the next. How that

2534
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: changes the dynamic of when to strike and maybe take

2535
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: a chance on a young running back is up to

2536
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 1: the front office, obviously, and they're going to have to

2537
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 1: do their best to assess the landscape. But I would

2538
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 1: not rule out them drafting a young running back, you know, somewhere,

2539
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 1: maybe late on day two or on day three at all.

2540
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 1: Jeff's earlier questions were about guys we've talked about today,

2541
02:04:57,080 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 1: Ziggy Ansa who reportedly is visiting the Bills. We known

2542
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: know more about it than that. Chris indicated that there's

2543
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: going to be some questions about his physical status, and

2544
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: the same could be said for darry Williams, a Carolina

2545
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: offensive tackloo at a pretty serious knee injury, and you know,

2546
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: we don't we don't have the kind of access that

2547
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: the NFL clubs do, so we don't know what the

2548
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: medical is telling these teams. For both Darryll Williams, who

2549
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 1: had an extensive knee injury that forced him to miss

2550
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:24,120
Speaker 1: all of the twenty eighteen season this past year, and Ziggyanza,

2551
02:05:24,160 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: who for the past three years has been troubled by

2552
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: injuries and very often when he's been on the field,

2553
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: has been playing hurt and thereby has been ineffective. So

2554
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, you've got two guys with injury question marks.

2555
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 1: But I think the visit that's been reported of Ziggyanza

2556
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, I get the sense that, based on that

2557
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 1: injury history, it's probably more of a due diligence mission

2558
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 1: than maybe, oh, imminent signing this is going to happen.

2559
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but that's just what my guts

2560
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 1: telling me about Answa, just knowing that he had to

2561
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 1: get shut down midway through the year this year due

2562
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: to a shoulder injury. He had shoulder surgery as a

2563
02:06:04,160 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: rookie after his rookie year in twenty thirteen or offseason

2564
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: between twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, So there is a there

2565
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:15,920
Speaker 1: is an injury history there that is notable and needs

2566
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 1: to be investigated. So it wouldn't surprise me knowing how Brandon,

2567
02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:21,680
Speaker 1: being in his front office do their due diligence if

2568
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: that is the mission with this visit here. He is

2569
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: also supposed to visit the Saints. Bob and Cheek Dwaga

2570
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 1: on the line with us, Bob, your favorite Bills move

2571
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 1: So far, what do you have? Yeah, Hi, John and

2572
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 1: Chris Hi. A great couple of days for the Bills.

2573
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: It's not one player, it's all these offensive linemen. They've gotten.

2574
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 1: To me, it looks like we're going to have at

2575
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 1: least three, maybe four new starters on the offensive line. Well,

2576
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: you kind of had to because you had three guys

2577
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 1: who were free agents at the end of the season,

2578
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 1: who were starting for you at the end of the year.

2579
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Groy, John Miller, and Jordan Mills. We're

2580
02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: all starting for you for the second half of the season,

2581
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, especially when um, you know, the center had

2582
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 1: to go out with the injury, Boden Russell Bodine when

2583
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: he had to go out with injury. You know, Groy's

2584
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: in there at center, Miller's the whole right side of

2585
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 1: your line is in free agency right now, So you know,

2586
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 1: you knew you were gonna potentially have some subtractions. Clearly,

2587
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 1: this is an organization that felt they had to go

2588
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 1: in a completely new direction, and so the you know

2589
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: the likelihood of any of those three players coming back

2590
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 1: I think is very remote at this point. Oh you know,

2591
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about that. I asked you that question

2592
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 1: that the combine, I believe asking you, are we saying

2593
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:35,200
Speaker 1: that it's over for John Miller, and I'm saying yeah,

2594
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: you kind of said now i'd say definitely, yeah, Yeah,

2595
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking yeah, And now I'm I'm saying it.

2596
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: It's more of a statement now than a query. Uh,

2597
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:46,839
Speaker 1: that's squeezing the call here from a Scott in Brockton,

2598
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 1: New York. Your favorite Bills move so far, Scott? Go ahead? Yeah.

2599
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 1: I think my favorite move for the Bills so far

2600
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 1: would be not signing Antonio Brown. Why is that he

2601
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 1: was too big of a personality and Josh Allen being

2602
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 1: too young of a quarterback, and I think it would

2603
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 1: have just destroyed his confidence if he wasn't you know,

2604
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 1: get Antonio Brown wasn't getting the production that he wanted.

2605
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:12,800
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you don't think Frank Gore could have

2606
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 1: checked him? I don't know. He's got a big personality. Yeah,

2607
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: all right. I mean it's it's a valid it's a

2608
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 1: valid concern. I'm not I don't think it can be

2609
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: just arbitrarily dismissed. I mean, there is a history there.

2610
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a question about that. But all

2611
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 1: indications that I got about Antonio Brown. The major rub

2612
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 1: was Ben Roethlisberger. That was the issue. One guy who

2613
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: I think Antonio Brown clearly knew was not going anywhere,

2614
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 1: and he just couldn't take it anymore. And I know

2615
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 1: I talked to you about this murph at the combine,

2616
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 1: just based on some of the stuff that I had

2617
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 1: gathered from some of my Pittsburgh sources, that he was

2618
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: most at issue with some of the things that Roethlisberger

2619
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 1: would say on his weekly radio show down there in

2620
02:08:57,000 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh where he and maybe then didn't really pick up

2621
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 1: on this or isn't enough of a diplomat to realize

2622
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 1: what he was saying, but numerous times he would just

2623
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 1: throw Antonio under the bus based on how things shook

2624
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 1: out in games, and then another instance and said, well,

2625
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably better off throwing a juju anyway. I mean,

2626
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy that led the league in catches,

2627
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 1: receiving yards and touchdowns for like six years and you're

2628
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:21,720
Speaker 1: talking to him talking about him like that. Oh, by

2629
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 1: the way, he's your teammate, like you know. So, I

2630
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,560
Speaker 1: think it just got to a point where Antonio, who

2631
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,880
Speaker 1: is a very prideful player, very proud player because of

2632
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 1: the work that he does put in just couldn't take

2633
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:34,360
Speaker 1: it anymore and I gotta get out of here. Yeah,

2634
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't really care about the Steelers, but what happens

2635
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 1: to the Steelers now? And especially we've talked Steve and

2636
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: I talked a lot on the show about the pressure

2637
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 1: on Mike Tomlin. Now, he's got to keep this thing

2638
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 1: together as much as they can. There's also pressure on

2639
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger now, and he's kind of been outed as not

2640
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 1: the greatest teammate, right, and Bella is gone and Antonio

2641
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: Brown is gone. They haven't really replaced them with the

2642
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 1: significant pieces yet. I think there's a lot of heat

2643
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 1: on Ben Roethlisberger to produce and kind of maintain the

2644
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 1: something similar to the standard they have set for the

2645
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: last every year. Right. I really don't see it being

2646
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,120
Speaker 1: an issue for them. I think the competition has improved

2647
02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: in their division in the form of Cleveland, but their

2648
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: line is rock solid. They did trade Marcus Gilbert to Arizona,

2649
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 1: but you know, I think they have a line that

2650
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 1: is rock solid, that can run the football. James Conner

2651
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: has proven he can be a productive running back weekend

2652
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 1: and week out. You know, even their back even their

2653
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,160
Speaker 1: backup running back is better. And the bottom line, you know,

2654
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 1: you say, and I talked about this, they just seem

2655
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 1: to be able to cycle through the next number one

2656
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 1: receiver and now it's gonna be Juju Smith Schuster. And

2657
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 1: I told you you can run down the list. You

2658
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 1: can go from Plexico Burst to Santonio Holmes to Mike Wallace.

2659
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's guy after guy after guy,

2660
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: Hines Ward, Antonio Brown. They just roll them through. And

2661
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:53,800
Speaker 1: why because you have a quarterback that can extend plays

2662
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:57,960
Speaker 1: and give a receiver five seconds to get open. I mean, Murph,

2663
02:10:58,080 --> 02:11:00,360
Speaker 1: I see you and I can get open after five second.

2664
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 1: I just don't have the same faith in the Steelers

2665
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 1: that you seem to have, and especially in Tomlin, who

2666
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't think has ever distinguished himself as a great

2667
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 1: NFL coach. We'll see. So you think he's been a

2668
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 1: product of great, historically stable franchise. That could be a show. Yeah,

2669
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 1: that could be a show. Maybe a better show in

2670
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh than here, but still could be a show. Talk

2671
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: too much about the Steelers the last couple of years,

2672
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 1: and you said you don't like him, I know, I know,

2673
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean nothing against him coming back. One Bill's Live

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02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:28,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive and this

2675
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:48,240
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio show winds down and we take stock.

2676
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show. It's presented by

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02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses with

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Speaker 1: a finess and security in home theater, the preferred alarm

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02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 1: at home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We had

2680
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer on the show. Jordan was in the field

2681
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 1: house today with his quarterback candidate, Tyree Jackson of the

2682
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 1: UBI Bulls. You'll be pro day here today. Jordan also

2683
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 1: is working out again with Josh Allen offseason workouts in California,

2684
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: like he did last year before the draft. Chris asked

2685
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer about Josh Allen's training regiment during the offseason.

2686
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. For me, It's less about,

2687
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, running a play I don't. I don't have

2688
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 1: the playbook. I don't need the playbook for me. It's

2689
02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 1: about just making sure that there's a lot of consistency.

2690
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 1: If he's going to throw it from on platform standing there,

2691
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,080
Speaker 1: two feet in the ground, throw, how do we make

2692
02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 1: it to where it always is the same and always

2693
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 1: feels the same, and when one of your bad habits

2694
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 1: creeps in, you notice it and you go, oh my,

2695
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 1: my feek got a little narrow there. I was leaning

2696
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's really about getting him to

2697
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,080
Speaker 1: self correction. So then you take him at the end

2698
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 1: of this, you know, in April, and he shows up

2699
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:45,720
Speaker 1: and now they get to have him do the things

2700
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:47,480
Speaker 1: that they want him to do. He's just in a

2701
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 1: better position to do those things and make fewer mistakes.

2702
02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer really interesting stuff. Go back to our website

2703
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 1: and in a little bit wild Buffalo Bills dot com

2704
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 1: and listen what he said about Josh Allen and about

2705
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson. Also on the show today Kim Joe NFL

2706
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 1: Netward reporter. We asked her about the reaction in New

2707
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 1: York City to the Giants trade of O'Dell Beckham last

2708
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 1: night among Giants fans. There's there's what she said. I mean,

2709
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 1: I do think Giants fans are curious what the plan is.

2710
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: I just think that there is a bit of a

2711
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 1: contradiction when you commit to a thirty eight year old quarterback,

2712
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: don't matter his resume. Yeah, although in Elia's case that

2713
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 1: is a big part of Eliath seeing a giant still

2714
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 1: a thirty eight year old quarterback. But you say goodbye

2715
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 1: to much younger talent in Landing Collins and now O'Dell

2716
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 1: Beckham junior. So I do think there is a bit

2717
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 1: of a curious nature to what gentleman is actually doing.

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02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 1: You're curious, I guess. Hey, we're just a little bit

2719
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 1: more than an hour away from the official beginning of

2720
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 1: free agency. The Bills expect you to announce the is

2721
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: it seven or eight? Now? Eight? Seven? Signings already announced

2722
02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:54,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson yesterday he was able to sign earlier. Tell

2723
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 1: us what's coming up on the website once these announcements come. Yes,

2724
02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: who will have coverage of the assignings once they become

2725
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: a shoal And then we'll have what people are saying

2726
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,840
Speaker 1: around the league about how the Bills did. Grades are

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