1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Ring Ring. 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: We're back with a new episode and in the country 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: that we were born in or not me though you, 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean not. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: You though me anyway and in a way well no, 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: actually no, please don't sensralize the American experience. It hasn't 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: it been centralized enough? Aren't we over it? Well we 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: might beat you, I'm gonna say, And this is not 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: editorializing too much. I think this is just a stavement 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: of fact. America is having a rough go out an 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Olympic Wei. I would say not to say. 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: That there haven't been high high, high highs, but the 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: lows have been a little low. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: The lows have been tough. We're so happy for all 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: of our legends and curling, our legends in women's hockey, 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: our legends in speed skating. We'll get to all of 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: those in a later episode, probably going after this. Yes, 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: this is just you know, but we just had to 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: put that out there, and we're gonna get things back 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: on track. This episode. We're just going to talk about 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: our lovely experience. Yea, being lucky enough to attend the game. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: You'll come along with us and find out what it 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: was like in this in the zone. 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: What I was saying when. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: I flopped earlier at the top of the episode was 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Bowen Yang was not born in America. He was born 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: outside of the country. I was born here. I can't 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: do anything about all this. I'm just American and I 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: gotta deal with that. 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: You are as American as my hot talks. 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: I would, I would if I had to guess. And 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: isn't that kind of like, oh I couldn't do better? 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna say a baseball back, yes, yes, oh, 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry when we were a bugger. 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Let's just let's just level set, just to rebalance the scales, 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: really solid. Let's name at least three solid American exports. 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: Okay, baseball, you know what, Mariah Carey. 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Mariah Carey, baseball, baseball, Mariah Carey and rock and roll. 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: We can't see it. Yeah, sure, there you got. I'm 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: good with I'm good with that. You can have a 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: great to music things, though, Okay, okay, it should be 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: a food thing. 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: We can we can say hot dog is a burger 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: American barb Is that your jurisdiction? It's German guys, right. 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Hamburger, Hamburger. I'm gonna say, even though it's a sugary 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: drink and it's not healthy for a high frucus porns 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: era Coca Cola. Sure, yeah, we do, we do. 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: I actually I have a ton of Coke zero in 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: my fridge and I'm not absolutely gonna rip into it 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: today because we have so much to discuss. I'm just 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and say it because I've not been 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: able to stop talking about it since we experienced it. 53 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Bowen Yang and I are now ice dancing super fans. 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Ice dance super fans. Can I can? I offer dropping 55 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: the ing and let's just say we love ice dance. 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: We love ice dance. 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: Okay, is it wrong to say we are ice dancing 58 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: super fans because I guess that I guess that would 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: sort of syntactically mean not. 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: I think I think in the sort of if you 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: want to like embed it properly, and I'm so sorry 62 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: to be like this, please, I guess if you want 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: to embed it properly, it's like, oh, we love ice 64 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: dance in figure skating. Yeah, like ice dances within figure skating, 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: in the big tent of figure skating. 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: I love to watch ice dance, not ice dance sing. 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Or you can say we're huge ice dance fans. 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Well we are, we are armed, and we saw greatness. 69 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: We did see greatness. We truly saw greatness. I loved 70 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: everyone up on that podium. Have you gotten a chance 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: to watch Glitter and Gold yet? 72 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: No, not just yet, but it is the top of 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: my list because they really kind of like, I know 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about how this all shook 75 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: out on Thursday, but so miss Chalk and mister Bates. 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Really, here's here's what I. 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Will say, and I think you'll agree with me here. 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: By far, you knew the gold medal was coming from 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: either Miss Chalk and Baits, miss Chalk and Baits, which 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: is what I'm gonna call the both of them, miss 81 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: correctively miss Chalk and Baits, or the French couple. The 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: French pair who, it can't be stated enough, did their 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: first dance that we saw to Madonna as Vogue, and 84 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: that did feel very special, especially because it wasn't a 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Ricky Martin medley, which ninety eight percent of the other 86 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: ice dance couples were doing. So they stuck out in 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: that regard. But there's a lot to be sad about. 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Like you know, they're very controversial, they different, there's a 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: lot going on there. I can't say that Bon Yang 90 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: and I are like super well versed in the ins 91 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: and outs of what exactly who said what to whom. 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, this is going to be intergalactic, like we 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: don't know the details. But they're controversial. I don't know 94 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: much about it. 95 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: There's they're ice dance, There's there's s right, there's stuff, 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: there's stuff. There's there's dark sa stuff in the mix, 97 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: like not. 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: With any not with either of them, but like related 99 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: to people that they used to be margu with. 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: Of course, and there's there's a lot of narrative. It's 101 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: it's a very like this. I feel very privileged that 102 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: we got to witness them do their thing and we 103 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: did not watch the metal and then the I think 104 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the night that we left was when all of this 105 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: shook out in terms of the metal distribution in the 106 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: podium and this controversy with the French judge. It's always 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: the French judge, isn't it when we get to that 108 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday, But it's. 109 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Really wild that it is the French judge again. But 110 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: then of course, like they are a French pair And 111 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: now I'm reading more about that and I heard that 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, there was like a marked difference 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: in how the French judge scored Madison and Evan and 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: the pair representing her country. And it's like, I can 115 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: just say with my own eyes it was not at 116 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: least what we saw. They were clearly the top two 117 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: with Paul and Piper like right up there. But I 118 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: don't know how you could score them very differently. They 119 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: were both just spectacular. 120 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Everyone was spectacular in terms of the expertise that we 121 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: were next to while we were watching them say it. 122 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: These were people who are very familiar with the sport. 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: We will not name names. Some of them may have 124 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: been guests of this podcast. We were sitting with the authority. 125 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: We were sitting with the authority, and they did this 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: is multiple people who turned to us before the scores 127 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: went out for Gillome and Lawns who said, that's mid 128 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: to high eighties. We were shocked when it was in 129 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: the nineties. Yeah, I was a. 130 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Ninety and that was that was really And here's the thing. 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm watching as like as a lay person as you know, oh, 132 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: of course, simply a spectator. And I after they finished 133 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: their their skate to Vogue, I was like, oh wow, 134 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: what I just saw was one of the most physically 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: impressive things I've ever seen. And I felt the same 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: way about Madison and Evan. And my favorite part of 137 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: the whole thing is watching the what would you call it? 138 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Like that when when all six or five or sex 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: of the competitors in that round come out and they're 140 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: all doing their like little practice skate, yes, the warm 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: up yeah huh, the drama of the warm up and 142 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: the practice skate, them all just like whipping around each 143 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: other and like doing their thing, and like it's just 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: so it's such drama and performance and they're so galvanized, 145 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: and it really is the arena in that moment. And 146 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: I was worried the whole time that there was gonna 147 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: be collisions, and we did see a few near misses. 148 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, that must happen all the. 149 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: Time, and confirmed that it does happen all the time, 150 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: especially with all that tension in the air. Oh, yes, 151 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: that you could cut with a skate. You could cut 152 00:08:47,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: it with a skate. Now did you end up watching Madison, 153 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Miss Chok and Bates to do their mattagor routine? I did? 154 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean it felt winning to me. I mean to 155 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: be honest with you. It just it's I. 156 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Think we should look into the French judge. 157 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I think we should look into the French 158 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: judge as well. 159 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Are they pursuing this? 160 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: ISU has come out and said that they stand by 161 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: the scoring, which I, yeah, I guess what I meant 162 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: to see. 163 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: You hate that, But because it doesn't seem right. But 164 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: does does that mean it's over or can they continue 165 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: to pursue or is it kind of just like if 166 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: I SU comes out and says that it's. 167 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Over, I think it's over where where it's clearly we're 168 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: certainly not the expert. This is the beautiful thing. I mean, 169 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: we've gone to the Olympics and we still know just 170 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: as little as we did before. Yeah. 171 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: And also they are Olympic gold medalists, which we also saw. 172 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: So we were there for the team figure skating the 173 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: whole the competition and the medaling, and so we got 174 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: to be there when they all earned their gold medals. 175 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: That was Ilia mallin In, that was Amber Glenn, that 176 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: was Alasa Lou everybody and Madison and Evan were involved 177 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: in that. 178 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: So these are all Olympic gold medalists. 179 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: Which should be said Obviously there's you know, varying disappointments 180 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: in the individual situations, but they are Olympic gold medalists 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: and that was a great moment, like being there for 182 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: an Olympic gold medal ceremony to go to US. That 183 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: was incredible and there was so much camaraderie between the countries. 184 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: It was very positive at least while we were very positive. 185 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Barbara has raised her hands. 186 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Barb, Hi, guys, I just wanted to let you 187 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: know that US Figure Skating has put out a statement 188 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: today that they have said that you know, they may 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: continue to pursue judging reforms going forward, but that's their 190 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: focus is on the feature. 191 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's over. Great, So it's over. Thank you, Barb. 192 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: I just finished watching this week's episode of Traders. Really 193 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: rough week for figure skating overall, both people past and present. 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: Our representative pairs are not doing well in at least 195 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: in terms of winning competitions. And I just gotta pause 196 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: things and say right here, I'm now only rooting for 197 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Tera and Johnny on the Traders. Yes, there's a reason 198 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: to watch at this juncture. 199 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: At this juncture, and they are the reason to watch. 200 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: I have been newly galvanized to love figure skating because 201 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: of Madison and Evan and Ilia and Amber and Alyssa 202 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and Ellen everybody on Team USA. I was incredibly inspired 203 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: watching ten USI and season four of The Traders. 204 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: US so much going on. It was also wild to 205 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: like when you look at the the winning US team 206 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: figure skating group. 207 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: They are such like a wildly alt group. Like Alyssa's 208 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: got her how would you even said? Lady Gaga Judas hair. 209 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: It's Judas music video hair, Lady Gaga, the streaks, and 210 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: she she does a new sort of chunk of bleach 211 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: every few years. 212 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,359 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I mean just and then Amber obviously 213 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: outspoken queer eyegon like you can. And what I love 214 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: about Amber and what I recognize in Amber is you 215 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: can tell her emotions are right on her skin, like 216 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: you can tell that girl is bursting, and it's hard 217 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: to focus in when you're someone who's just bursting at 218 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: all times and being like you know, and the fire 219 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: always feels like it's on hot. But I'm excited to 220 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: see her do her individual thing because I just I 221 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: would love for this to feel like there was a 222 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: release at some point where Americans could have like that 223 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: like individual gold medal moment, because we haven't even spoken 224 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: about right away, right as the game started, Lindsay Vaughn 225 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: crashing like that. I don't know, I don't know if 226 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: people out there believe in vibes, but that started it. 227 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: That started it off in a really sort of sad, 228 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: negative place. And not to say because and there's a 229 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: lot of debate about like what she should have done. 230 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: No one can say but her. She felt like she 231 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: could compete. She's the Olympian here, you know. 232 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: She did her practice runs, She did her practice runs 233 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: before her event. There was the video around going around 234 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: of her doing weightlifting with the tourney cl and every 235 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: yeah it's swinging the other way beforehand where everyone was like, 236 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, like she's gonna do this, look at 237 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: her like she's she is weightlifting with the torney cl 238 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: like she is ready. And like, as with other storylines 239 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: of this Olympics, like I think the prevailing thing is 240 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: like nothing is inevitable and nothing is guaranteed in sports, 241 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and so that could mean accidents, unfortunate things, things that 242 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: are out of control, things that are purely internal that 243 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: then manifest in external ways in terms of performance like 244 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: so much happens in the human condition that are that 245 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that makes its way to like this is the beautiful 246 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: thing about sports. It's that it's like it's a human 247 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: convocation of action and activity, like this is like this 248 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: is where it all happens, and we're what bigger stage 249 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: than the Olympics. And then it kind of gets Norwegian 250 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: by athlete to like confess to like has a fair 251 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: like these things happened at the Olympics, because well, I 252 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: mean that's also complicated too. Yeah, they are human. 253 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: I think we get conditioned by I don't know what 254 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: it is, whether it's Olympic marketing or just recent Olympic history, 255 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: to believe these people are super human. But actually we've 256 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: been incredibly we've been reminded, but we've also been incredibly 257 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: fortunate to see a lot of Olympic achievement against the odds, 258 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: and we've been told again and again and again that 259 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: the impossible is possible, which has been amazing. But then 260 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: I believe, you know, Simone Biles a couple of Olympics ago, 261 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: being like I can not mentally continue was sort of 262 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: the first time that people were like or at least 263 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: the first time in recent history that people were reminded 264 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: these are human beings. And it feels like we're being 265 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: reminded again and again and again this year that these 266 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: are human beings. And maybe that changes, like in a 267 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: collectivist way, the way that we go about this. But 268 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: these Olympians aren't working for America. They're competing on behalf 269 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: of their country, but they there is this mentality that 270 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: I think that happens where it's like people feel like 271 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: slighted when there aren't like superhuman Olympic achievements or when 272 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: someone reveals humanity. And I do think there needs to 273 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: be a reframing of the way that we talk about 274 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: victory and loss here because it's clearly coming out an 275 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: emotional and mental expense. 276 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and I think we have to wait for like 277 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: the world to still catch up. I don't know, man, 278 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: there's so much like eye. So I certainly made it 279 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: way worse. So I left a comment on miss Chalk 280 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: and Bates's Instagram after they after they after they meddled 281 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: in silver, and I said the best in the world, 282 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: because to me, they are the best in the world absolutely. 283 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there was no denying it. I probably had 284 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: some little French bag Getty and say, well, now clearly 285 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: they weren't because the French got the gold, and I just, 286 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: of course, I like brushed it off. But I'm like, 287 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: this is this is like you can't even like allow 288 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: someone else to like come in and just I mean, 289 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: I obviously understand what happened, Uh, but I'm like, I 290 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: don't think it should take away from the fact that 291 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: there are people out there who agree with me and 292 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: think that they are indeed the best in the world. 293 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: We have the French judge's name in front of us 294 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: on this doc. I let's not even say it. I'm 295 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: not even saying that desires. 296 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: The French judge, because who knows, maybe the French judge. 297 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: Really says something we didn't. 298 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's possible. I do think that 299 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: it has to be. It has to be social media, 300 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: because there must have been a way back in the 301 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: day for people to like, for example, like Tara Lipinski, 302 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: was what a teenager doing this twelve total? Yeah twelve. 303 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: First of all, that's crazy, so freakish. She had to 304 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: have been actively protected from like media. But then even 305 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: media at that time was probably more just like encouraging. 306 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: It wasn't like she was in the tabloids, like they're 307 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: trying to get her, Like it wasn't a sensationalist thing. 308 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: Whereas now, even if it's not that way in the media, 309 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: you go on to your social media, which is so fragmented, 310 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: so chaotic and so invasive, you don't really stand a 311 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: chance now. And it's hard when you know social media 312 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: has found out a way to become addictive algorithmically, and 313 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: so and someone who's clearly online like these girls, you 314 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like Amber Glenn and Alissa Loud. 315 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: Those girls are online, you know what I'm saying, Like 316 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: maybe Ilia is something different, but clearly he's got his 317 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: own demons. 318 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Otherwise it wouldn't have gone that way. But Amber had 319 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: the sense to like log off when yeah, you're like, oh, like, 320 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: no one should should be subjected to this much less 321 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: like TEMSA. Well, the second she was asked the question, 322 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: it was a foregone conclusion. I mean, one of my 323 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: favorite things anyone's ever said on our podcast Lost Culture 324 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: is this Chapel Roone came on and she said, it's 325 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: not that you can't win, you won't win. 326 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: So she could not have answered a question about representing 327 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: America as a queer person and win against social media 328 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: because there is no way to get across something that 329 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: works for everyone where everyone doesn't have a phone, you 330 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like, by proxy of being 331 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: in that position, you are up for mutilation on social media, 332 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: which is hard for someone like her, I would imagine, 333 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: or anyone who's our age or younger to just give up. 334 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: There is like a mourning you have to do as 335 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: an online person. And you're an athlete who probably most 336 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: of the time is incredibly supported and incredibly cheered on. 337 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: And if there's someone that's hard on you, I would 338 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: imagine it's them. It's it's like themselves. No one is 339 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: harder on athletes than themselves. So for then the chorus 340 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: to come out because you said something that actually accurately 341 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: represented yourself and your feelings, it's not that you can't win, 342 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: you just won't win. So she had to get off, 343 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: and like I hope it helped. But even then, even 344 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: after you remove yourself from the situation, you still had 345 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: to remove yourself from the situation, and in that way, 346 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: the dam just kind of done. 347 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: But then that's what and like you said, there should 348 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: be a reframing on victory versus quote unquote defeat. It's like, 349 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: it's not that she didn't win by having to get offline, 350 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: it's that, like the game is ragged and it's barely 351 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: a game. It's it's being inaccurately presented as a game. 352 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: It's not that you can and it's that you won't win. 353 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: It's because the game is like whatever I swear to 354 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: gob We're not stoned, everybody. We're literally just like having 355 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: deep thoughts about this aspect of the Olympics in the 356 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty six. 357 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Which has changed it in irrevocable and really truly astounding ways. 358 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: I think the pressure has it's so crazy. 359 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: More thoughts about the results. Our next episode. This was 360 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be us talking about the rest of our trip. 361 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: It was lovely. We had delicious food. We did you 362 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: got to go see the preliminary round of women's hockey 363 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: between the US and Canada. I could not make it 364 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: because I was not feeling well that night. 365 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, bone was feeling sick, so I went to that 366 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: one solo. But incredibly violence or like you really don't 367 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: It's like you really don't understand what a body check 368 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: sounds like against the plastic around the ring until you 369 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: are there to experience it. And then there was I'll 370 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: share one thing. We're sitting in an area where it 371 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: was like we were on the side, and so behind 372 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: the net there's like obviously the plexiglass, and then there's 373 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: a net going from the top of the plexiglass to 374 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: the top of the stadium because obviously that's the. 375 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Direction where they're trying to shoot a goal. 376 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there with our manager Olivia, my agent 377 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: Pronav and I was like, oh, like, there's no net 378 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: over the top of where we are, like probably where 379 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: we'll be fine because no one's shooting a goal in 380 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: this direction, but I'm noticing it. Like in the middle 381 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: of the second period, I guess, the puck came flying 382 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: hard over. 383 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: The side of the pucksyglass. 384 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: Heads, literally careening towards a baby that must have been 385 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: must have been like less than two years old. The 386 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: dad like slaps the puck out of the way it 387 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: lands in front of the baby. Everyone is screaming, and 388 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: then the baby picks up the puck and immediately put 389 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: it in his mouth and everyone cheered. 390 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: Everyone was cheering. 391 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: It was just like the the such a baby that 392 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: even in the face of death, he just looked at it, 393 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: picked it up. 394 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna eat this. 395 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm orally fixated down That is where I'm at. 396 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: In my development. 397 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: I almost died because this little black rock shot out 398 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: of nowhere almost killed me. 399 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Let me eat that. It was swhere were the cameras, 400 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: they were there. I just it was. 401 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: It didn't become like an Olympic moment, I guess, but 402 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: it was it should have. 403 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: It was good. Immediately he gets the fuck. 404 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: It was really good the dad. 405 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: The dad is a hero, truly, no a heroic file. 406 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: Lots going on, and see there. It wasn't all bad 407 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: at the Olympics. 408 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's just there. There's just just 409 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: just something we we gotta. We gotta get to Lunar 410 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: New Year now. We need to We need to year 411 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: like a puck towards a baby. We need to shed 412 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: the Year of the Snake immediately, must must re skin. 413 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: And we are going to shed this episode right now 414 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: because we are going to prepare and look forward to 415 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: our next episode, which is going to talk more about 416 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: what really went down top top headlines, top highlights, a 417 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: lot more to discuss. 418 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: So I guess the metals. Stay tuned for that. No 419 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: metals this week, this episode. I don't think we'll do 420 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: metals next episode either. I know that metals has been 421 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: given out. It's kind of like, well, we'll see, we'll see, 422 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: and it's just what are metals if no one's keeping 423 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: count you know what I mean? I think Barb might 424 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: be keeping down. Barber's concerned with other things. I don't think. 425 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Barb cares to find out anyway, We'll 426 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: see you on We'll see you on our next episode. 427 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't know when you lism of this. 428 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: I almost said we'll see you on Thursday, because I 429 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: just think you guys are chomping up the bit with 430 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: every new. 431 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Two Guys five Rings. 432 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, watch and listen to every moment 433 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: of the wind your Olympics now through February twenty second, 434 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: which is coming up on NBC and Peacock and on 435 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. We end with the Olympic song Wow, 436 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: we both got our little downward rip. 437 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, different vowels see yah Thie