WEBVTT - Would You Trade Jaylen Brown For James Harden? 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.880 Tony Tony. 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.600 We are saying goodbye Tony, Tony Wong. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:21.400 Hello, good mornings, we. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.400 Were all, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:29.840 the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December thirty first, Happy New 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.120 Year's Eve. I'm Jay Skeets and alongside me as always 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.080 all year long, Tas Mellice, Hey everybody, Hey Tassy, we 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.599 got the bass Master ripping him lips, Trey Kirby, Hey 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.640 out hey, the International Man of Mystery taking it to 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:52.519 the max, Leela's Friend, Last, but not least, making the 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.200 magic happen all year long. It's JD. Hello, there is, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.360 and here we are. 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Yeah, I'm gonna 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.680 throw some headlines at you guys, and we're gonna debate 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.360 whether or not they're newsworthy. And the first one is 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:53.040 Jalen Brown matches Larry Bird Lee, Remember that guy, streaky shooter. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.880 Jalen Brown matches Larry Bird with forty two points in 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.480 twenty nine minutes. Trey get a started. Is this news? 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.440 Oh? This is news if you're in the Jalen Brown 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.600 fan club, and I am, because what a game from JB, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.880 bringing to mind another JB. I think Jalen Brown is 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.120 the next Jimmy Butler and just seeing the way he 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.760 has exploded out of the gate for the Celtics this season. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.120 If you're a Bean town boy like me, you gotta 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.280 be loving at forty two last night and he just 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.799 looks like he's completely seizing the opportunity with Kemba Walker out. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.920 You know, since he's came into the league, Jalen Brown 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.880 has played with a high usage point guard. Basically his 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.560 entire career. It was Isaiah Thomas, it was Kyrie Irving, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.600 it was Kemba Walker. But now there's a little bit 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.080 more space for uh Jalen to get to work out there. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.840 He's skilled enough, he's strong, he's athletic, and just like Jimmy, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.600 he's got that desire to be great, to expand his game. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.960 Jimmy Maid an All Star team the first time his 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.280 fourth season, age twenty five. Jalen Brown now year five. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.240 Already he's only twenty four, but they feel like they're 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.280 on the same path. They just keep getting better and 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.680 better and better. You see Jalen get into work in 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.840 the mid range game, his playmakings coming along a little bit. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.519 I don't think they're exactly identical players, but the fact 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.320 that they can they can dominate at the wing position 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.000 using their athleticism and their strength, I think is just 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.000 so huge. It's been so fun to watch Jalen Brown 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.400 early this season. Kemba Walker is gonna come back, and 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:19.960 it's going to be on him to figure out how 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.639 to fit alongside Tatum and Brown because both of those 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.960 guys deserve to have the ball all the time. Jalen 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.480 has been incredible to start the season, he's better than 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.720 Larry Bird. You set it right there, Skis. Yeah, put 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.960 him in the Hall of Fame now. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.280 Yeah, Like through five games, I think it is. I 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.560 saw at Brian t rob tweeting this twenty eight points 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.040 per game for Jalen Brown, fifty six percent from the floor, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.360 forty four percent from three, and a very respectable six 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.080 point two free throw attempts per game. So he's doing 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.520 it everywhere. Ley, I thought last night against the Grizzlies, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.800 I mean, you know, Grizzlies missing a lot of guys 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.520 with the Celtics took care of business. But he was 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.040 stepping into like pull up threes in transition, like he 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:02.880 did that like three or four times this scheme. He's special. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.760 And it brings me to the question for you, Lee, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.720 because we've been sort of throwing it around. Would you 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.760 trade for James Harden If you're the Celtics, tass you 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.480 talked about it now, you would say, yeah, let's try 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.600 and tread Camber. But let's say the Rockets are like, sorry, man, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.279 we don't want Camber. We already have an injured point 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.719 code in John Wall. We want Jalen Brown. Would you 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.200 trade Jalen Brown and let's say Marcus Smart for James Horten. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.640 If you're Danny Angel and the Celtics Lee. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.279 I wouldn't do it right now. No, I think Jalen 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.800 Brown is really starting to show the potential that he's 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.880 shown over these last couple of years, and it's starting 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.120 to come to fruition now because he's a two way player. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.120 He definitely could be in the running for an All 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.719 Defensive nod this season. And the Celtics identity is to 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.160 work on both ends of the floor and to give 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.520 up Smart and Jalen Brown. That's two of their critical 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.520 defensive pieces. And on the offensive end, Marcus Smart, he's 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.560 a little bit hot and cold, but he does contribute. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.720 But what you're seeing I think here from Jalen Brown 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.680 is that you know, All Star nomination absolutely is in 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.920 play right now. He's most improved candidate as well. I mean, again, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.080 it's a very small ample size, but he's really showing 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.800 all the hard work that he's put in because he 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.360 hasn't been a super reliable or consistent shooter throughout his career. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.760 But it's starting to come together because he's realizing now 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.520 how to get to his spots and how to find 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.720 the right place to be and to shoot the ball. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:13.840 Well. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.640 The only thing oddly about him is he's not a 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.200 great free throw shooter. He's only shooting sixty seven percent 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.599 this season, which is right at his career mark. You'd 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.440 think that would sort of creep up a little bit 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.320 over the years, but it hasn't. But anyway, that's a minor, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.480 minor tweak there for his game that he needs to improve. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.280 But I I just feel where the Celtics are that 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.000 with Brown and Smart going forward. I mean, clearly James Harden, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:38.120 you know, a fantastic offensive player and would be you know, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.240 would he improve the team? I mean yes and no. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.320 I mean I think what he gives you offensively, they 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.200 would certainly miss defensively, And that's really what the Celtics 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.560 like to hang their hat on, is to be that 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.880 rock solid defensive team. So I think right now, I 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.040 don't think the Celtics would give up Jalen Brown. I 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.479 think Marcus Smart. They would if it was to involve 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.040 Kemball Walker, but I think Tatum and Brown are virtually 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.560 untouchable for the Celtics at this moment. Things could always change, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.239 of course, but I don't think Danny Angebols is a trigger 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.400 if it cost him one of those two young stars. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.920 If it costs him one of those two young stars, well, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.599 I definitely think James Harden would be high on the 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.880 priority list. I know Jaylen Brown is playing out of 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.920 his head right now and it would be hard to 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.040 give him up, no doubt. Jaylen Brown talks an incredible 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.479 game coming up to the postseason every time, and he 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.280 just hasn't been able to do it in the postseason. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.799 I can't wait it's all this postseason because it seems 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.640 like he is growing every single year. He is an 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.440 absolute monster this year. And I liked how they played 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.680 defense last night, how they just destroyed the Grizzlies in 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.360 the first quarter. They absolutely were all up in Memphis 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.000 and turn them over over and over and again. Twenty 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.039 two turnovers for the Grizzlies. I think they had like 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.960 eight steals in the first quarter. As Kelly Dwyer pointed out, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.440 that's Celtics basketball, So yeah, they needed that win. It's 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.880 although Jaylen Brown has been really good, the Celtics haven't 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.400 been overwhelmingly good to start this season. And they basically 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.320 beat the Bucks on a bank three and then they 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.200 came back and beat the Pacers and this was their 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:14.160 their most emphatic win. And yeah, it's a bad Grizzly team, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.400 so they should do that and that's how they won 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.720 this game. Yeah. I think as far as James Harden goes, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:26.600 the Celtics keep striking out on superstars every single season. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.320 There's a lot of talk about going to get a superstar. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.280 Would be hard to give up Jalen Brown, but I 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.920 think there is there's a lot of desire on Danny 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.200 Aingel's part to get something done. In my opinion, they're 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:40.679 definitely looking at it. Anyway. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.360 Yeah, about the Celtics, sort of weird start your advice 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.760 at the Athletic wrote I thought something that was spot on. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.600 Maybe it really touched home as a Raptors fan, because 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.360 he wrote, the first week of the season has been 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.920 all over the place for the Celtics, but at least 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.040 Tatum and Brown have made them comfortable that the future 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.840 is locked in place one percent true. And I bring 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.360 that as a Raps fan because you can't say the 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.800 same for the Raps right now with them struggling, not 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.560 getting a victory. But they're sort of two guys that 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.720 you look at potential building blocks or stars for them 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.560 in Siakam and Van Vliet, well they haven't been all 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.520 that great, right where Tatum and Brown are special special 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.920 players and you say, yeah, go get the superstar. But 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.920 the question is, well, is Brown a superstar? I mean, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.840 is he going to be like do we consider Jimmy 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.840 Jimmy Butler a superstar? I don't know. I think some 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.520 people do, some people don't. But if I'm with you, Trey, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.040 if he's on that trajectory, it looks sort of like 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.319 that you could lead that two way player. Well then 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.680 are you possibly just giving up a superstar for another 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.400 superstar who's older and Harden who's obviously limited maybe on 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.720 one side of the floor a lot more than Jaylen 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.240 Brown is Defensively, I don't know. I'm torn on this 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.560 one because I'm here to interest here to your take, Trey, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.800 because you're obviously a huge Harden fan. You've made it 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.240 clear you're in the gym the You've got me screwed up. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.000 Now now I'm gonna call it Jimmy Brown because you've 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.840 made this comparison. You're in the Jalen Brown fan club. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.800 Would you make that deal if you're Danny agents Celtics. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.439 Let's say it's Brown and Smart and whatever else to 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:07.800 make it happen for Harden, would. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:07.960 You do it? 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.720 I can't believe it's Skeets. I think he found the 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.520 first guy I wouldn't trade for James Harden. Wow, even 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.600 I can't believe I'm saying it out loud right now. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.040 I just kind of feel like the Celtics they're not 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.400 one piece away. They're not a James Harden away. If 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.680 you take if you traded Jalen Brown and Marcus Smart, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.880 Jason Tatum and Marcus Smart, whatever it is, one of 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.920 those two and another guy, that's a really really thin team. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.240 Because we're already talking about Javonte Green playing major minutes 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.880 for the Celtics. He had a nice game a couple 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.520 of nights ago against the Pacers. I was like, who 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.160 is this guy, the number forty three playing for the 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.760 Celtics Green? Is he just a made up player? There 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:42.960 was no way I was going to look it up 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.559 until after the game Javonte Green. But if you're asking 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.600 for Javonte Green to suddenly become a starter, I think 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.560 that's gonna be tough to me. Right now, Tatum and 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.720 Brown will be I mean, they're already knocking on the 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.480 door of superstardom right now. Tatum for sure, Jalen Brown 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.719 is making his case right now. This is not the 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.000 year that the Celtics are gonna win championship, even if 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.280 they were to add James Harden, I don't think. But 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.760 three years from now, if Tatum and Brown are your 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.880 two best players, you're looking at the new Kawhi Leonard 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.320 and Paul George, which we've all dunked on a lot 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.600 of times after the three to one lead. But still, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.760 if you can have two star wings in today's NBA 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.920 when there's not a lot of great wings out there, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.520 I don't know if you want to make a move 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:19.880 like that. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.400 Let's hear from you guys out there in the stream 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.600 team and listening to the podcasts, Jalen Brown and Marcus 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.640 Smart for James Harden, would you do it? 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:28.280 No way? 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.520 You know, obviously from the Celtics side of things, I 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.120 think the Rockets would be ecstatic with that type of return. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.920 I mean it's similar to like, well, that's a whole 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.920 other question. Would you rather have Ben Simmons or Jayalen 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.040 Brown if you were the Houston Rockets. It's interesting as well, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.840 so to hear your take on that hypothetical. But he 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.920 was amazing. He was so good last night, Jalen Brown, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.280 that Brian Scalabrini on the call just kept saying, geez, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.280 he drops like three g's in the game because he 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.520 can't believe what he's doing. Again, especially those like pull 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.560 up in transitions threes were like, whoa, okay, you added 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.880 that to the game. That's that's dangerous, all right. Our 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:07.199 next one here one headline Spurs Becky Hammond first woman 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.120 to direct an NBA team. Yeah, she made history. Wednesday 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.800 tasks first woman to act as head coach during an 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.360 NBA regular season game. After Pop got tossed, she took over. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.360 She's an assistant coach of course with the Spurs. Took 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.439 over in the spurs eventual loss to the Lakers seven. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.640 Is this news, Becky first woman to direct an NBA team? 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.280 No, it's not news. Until somebody gives a woman a 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.520 head coaching position where she is the leader of the team, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.520 this won't be news. A woman needs to be given 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.719 that title and not just this title of directed an 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.360 NBA team for a half while the head coach was 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.640 given the acts. Somebody needs to give the proper due 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.800 to somebody who obviously, in Becky Hammond's case, deserves it. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.120 The same headline happened during Summer League, where she was 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.599 the Summer League head coach, first one to direct a 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.360 Summer League head coach in July in Las Vegas in 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.680 the blazing heat. Who cares. Somebody needs to give somebody 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.360 this the title, and it's probably Becky Hammond along the way. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.840 I'm not sure if it's gonna happen in San Antonio. Uh, 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.040 it's it sure seems like she is going to be 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.080 the one. But we need more women making decisions in 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.920 our lives, just like when the VP is heading the 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.840 Senate very soon, hopefully there this This isn't a headline 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.360 to me. I don't know if you guys are tired 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.440 of reading this. Directed a team and was an assistant 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.960 coach and kind of jumped over to the head coach 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.120 a seat for three quarters. I think I'm tired of it. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.079 Somebody just needs to, uh to give the head coaching position. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.600 I'm not I'm not into these directing headlines. When did when? 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.280 When did anybody ever direct a team? Anyways? What does 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.600 what does that mean? I mean somebody gives somebody, gives 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.240 somebody the head coaching title. Is she a conductor for 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.439 a half? Cool? 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:56.800 Run? 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.240 Run? Give her? Give her? Why? Why is it even 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.800 a question here in twenty twenty that a woman have 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:08.440 gotten ahead. We've seen it obviously in the WNBA, We've 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.120 seen it in the actually in the Big Three, where 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.840 men are being coached by women and are extremely happy 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.440 with the job that they're doing. I mean, I don't 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.520 I don't see this as a story at all. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.040 Well, I think what's interesting. Wasn't there a game in 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.440 like twenty nineteen where Pop got ejected, right, Himon's on 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.200 the staff. Of course at the time, She's been there 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.600 for a long time, and so they all sort of 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.920 took over. But then after the game, Pop said, well, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.960 assistant Tim Duncan was the head coach, like he was 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:44.320 taking over responsibilities to finish out the game. Before games start, 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.520 do like head coaches have to like put like a 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.880 little ranking like, well, if I get tossed, then this 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.840 person is in charge, and then if that person gets 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.079 tost the next person in charge. Like that was always 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.920 a little confusing to me because it was sort of 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.000 like she was also coaching in that instance too. But 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.640 you know this one is official because he pointed at her, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.839 as Becky said, which is really funny. And look, all 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.440 the quotes coming out of this are phenomenal. Becky says, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.640 it is substantial. Actually, you know, it's obviously a step 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.920 in in the right direction, a direction you're talking about 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.000 test that's inevitably going to happen and should DeRozan was like, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.000 I loved his quote. He's like Becky played. She was 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.160 damn good by the way, and any player who knows 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.960 the history of women's basketball knows what she meant to 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.840 the sport. You don't think twice about it. She's one 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.280 of us when she speaks for all ears. Lebron was 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.160 asked about it. She's been putting in the work and 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.360 anytime you put in the work, you should get rewarded 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:33.080 with opportunities. But yeah, it's this where this this is great. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.280 But let's she should have a head coaching job by now, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.680 and maybe she's waiting for in San Antonio Test. Maybe 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.160 she is waiting for Pop two eventually move on and 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.280 that will be her opportunity there unless another team comes calling. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.920 But what do you think, Lely, Yeah, I think because 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.400 it doesn't actually count as a victory for her, well 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.560 loss actually because I lost again, but it doesn't count 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.120 on her record, is what I'm trying to say this. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.160 So wow, So it's not official official yet. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.040 No, it's not, it's not. I mean, it's great that 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.960 she was given the top this time because Tim Duncan 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.120 obviously is not there either anymore. He didn't come back 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.720 this season. But so it's good that Pop did actually say, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.600 okay you are, you're filling in for me here. But 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.520 it's still until we see Becky as a head coach 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.960 getting a wins that register to her name. You know, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.960 this is more just sort of like, well, Pop, it 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.400 only happened because Pop lost his mind for no real 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.000 reason there, I mean he didn't. He certainly didn't need 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.040 to get two technicals on that call, So it was 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.640 more circumstance rather than like, we're designating Becky as the 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.640 head coach tonight. Now, if he did that prior to 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.560 a game, then that would be different, even though again 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.120 the record would still count as Pops because you can't 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.440 just say you know how it works in interim in 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.000 the NBA, those those wins and losses don't count to 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.920 a coach. They go to the other coach. So, but 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.000 it would be good if he said before again one day, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.960 said tonight, she is the coach and I'm going to 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.360 sit back and just watch her do everything. That would 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.880 be different, even though again it still wouldn't count on 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.160 her record and less popular. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.040 Weren't the Spurs doing that in the bubble? Or am 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.840 I mistaken? Wasn't pop Like sort of allowing some of 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.960 the assistant coaches to sort of take over the head 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.360 coaching duties within those games? 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.560 Honest I really remember to be That's definitely how Tim 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.560 Duncan got his first win last year, right, was that 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.160 pop had a personal reasons game that he missed and 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.400 he said, Tim, you're taking over for this. It's all 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.600 about that point with Popovich when he says you've got him, 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.640 you got to take over. But yeah, you know, it 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.840 was only a matter of time, honestly before Becky Hammond 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.480 gets a job. So many Spurs assistants have gotten jobs 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.120 throughout the league. There's not a great track record of 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.920 success among Spurs assistants, but they all get jobs, which 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.760 I think is huge. And now that we've seen Becky 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.680 Hammon officially coach an NBA game, direct it whatever you 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.240 want to call it. Tim Duncan was the acting head coach. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.000 The headlines are still out there, but now that we've 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.520 seen it in the NBA, like Becky was saying, it 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.040 is momentous. Even though I was trying not to think 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.560 about and just try to win the game. Now that 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.720 we've seen it in a regular season game, maybe that 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.560 makes it easier for a team to say, Yeah, we're 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.240 going to be the team that hires Becky Hammond. Somebody 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.360 should and it'll be a huge story once it finally happens. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.240 Yep, for sure. All right. Next headline. Within that same game, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.879 Lebron extends a record streak of ten point games to 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:05.880 one thousand. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:06.120 Yeah. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.359 Lebron celebrated his thirty sixth birthday by becoming the first 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.720 player in NBA history to have one thousand street games 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.520 without least ten points. Lee, this is a weird one. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.119 Is this news? Ten points? Lee? You could put up 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:19.760 ten points. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:20.080 In his NBA? 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.800 Yeah, it is news. I mean, it's a credit to 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.639 Lebron's longevity and his health and the fact that he 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.240 kept his body ready for the last thirteen years. I'm 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.199 sort of surprised when you go back through his record 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.040 that it wasn't even a little bit longer, and he 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.760 hadn't broken this record a little bit earlier, because I 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.200 mean when he came into league, he's averaged twenty points 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:39.800 in his rookie season. I mean, he seems to be 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.359 able to score. Last season was the only season ever 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.480 in his career that he hasn't led his team in scoring. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.920 Anthony Davis led the Lakers, which is incredible. But yeah, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.640 I mean, this really is one of those things where 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.560 you tip your hat to Lebron and just say, it's 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.399 incredible that you've been able to stay healthy this entire time, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.119 because you know, that's really what often happens, is a 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.119 player later in his career simply gets injured or misses games, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.239 or gets injured during a game, which happened to Kevin 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.399 Durround that broke his streak. He got injured during a 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.440 game and couldn't do it. So that's great for Lebron, 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.719 you know. And it's another record that Michael Jordan doesn't have. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.919 It's one that Lebron has, and it's one that's probably 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.359 unlikely to be beaten certainly anytime. So I don't know 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.000 who really would be able to do it. But that's 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.240 you know, that's incredible for Lebron. Now, I don't know 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.240 if you guys saw it or not. Now, Also, I 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.240 will say the NBA had an article up about it, 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.240 and they did note that in two playoff games. Yeah, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.480 he did have two single digit games. So this is 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.000 only a regular season. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.920 Brought up Yeah, twenty eleven and twenty fourteen with your heat. Yes, 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.960 he did have single point games in the playoffs. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.600 Yeah, so you know, I mean, do you account those? Yeah, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.679 it's the same game. I don't know who can, but 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.000 anyway you can. It's a game you can make stats 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.760 do it and say whatever you want, really when you 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.520 fudge them the right way. But anyway, I'm just wondering 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.080