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Speaker 1: Welcome into La Kick is Live. It this Thursday night

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Speaker 1: in March, seventeenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: jam packed, high top, just a seed of grief in

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Speaker 1: downtown Nashville. We're one block away from Broadway. It's Saint

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Speaker 1: Patrick's Night. If you have any idea what's going on

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Speaker 1: just over there. If you don't know already, you probably

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Speaker 1: don't want to know. But look, a lot of college

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Speaker 1: football shows out there getting a little shook this time

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Speaker 1: of year, March madness knocking them off their production schedule.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be us. We already got knocked off our schedule

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Speaker 1: due to technical issues. So we're certainly not canceling another show,

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Speaker 1: and there will be a reward for you being tuned

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Speaker 1: in tonight or tomorrow, whenever you choose to listen. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being here. Let me tell you what we're

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Speaker 1: doing tonight, little something different, but I think it's probably

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Speaker 1: we even would have had with our normal format. You

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Speaker 1: know how we do the Late Kick Extra podcast, which

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Speaker 1: is all Q and A and I can't ever get

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Speaker 1: to all the questions. Well, we're gonna use this and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to a whole lot of them tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think we have like eight or nine, and we're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna come very close to spanning the entire college

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Speaker 1: football universe. We've got questions about pretty much everything. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: I am a little bit more excited even than I

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Speaker 1: was when I pitched the concept earlier today, and I

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Speaker 1: way around that old college football globe tonight. They're watching

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Speaker 1: us in Albuquerque, New Mexico. They're watching us in Jesse

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Speaker 1: Country as we call it, Harrisburg, PA. You know where else.

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Quantum, Malaysia. Our international audience never

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Speaker 1: ceases to amaze me. And so I'm gonna give an

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Speaker 1: international shout out a night. And we have like a

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Speaker 1: stockpile of international shout outs to give at Late Kick, Josh,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're following them on Twitter, Instagram. You're really

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Speaker 1: gonna want to do that tonight, because I want to

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Speaker 1: give you a word right now. The word is madness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and some of you are tuned in live right now.

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Speaker 1: I know a ton of you are going to watch

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Speaker 1: this replay and listen to this replay. But we're in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the NCAA tournament. We're not ignorant to that.

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Speaker 1: This is what we call a P one special that

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Speaker 1: diehard fans are going to show up either way, and

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Speaker 1: you need to be rewarded for it. So I just

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Speaker 1: want you to remember it. Treat it like a promo

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Speaker 1: code if you will just keep this word locked away. Madness.

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Speaker 1: Probably not that hard to remember, madness. You'll know why

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Speaker 1: a little ways down the road. Just for now, all

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Speaker 1: you need to know is March seventeenth, madness. That's what

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Speaker 1: I need you to remember. Okay, So we've got so

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Speaker 1: many questions teed up. I asked you to submit some

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Speaker 1: this morning, so we got a combination of those and

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Speaker 1: enough of that. Let's tee it up. Let's have a

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Speaker 1: little fun tonight. First question by the way. For those unfamiliar,

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Speaker 1: here's a good idea of what you're missing. First question

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Speaker 1: from our good friend, grumpy old Sara, exactly what would

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Speaker 1: it take to get January first back to being the

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Speaker 1: college football day, even if it's just the semi final

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Speaker 1: games being on New Year's Day? How would we get

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Speaker 1: it back to being as special as it once was? Serge,

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Speaker 1: This all comes down to personal preference and how you

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Speaker 1: have chosen to calibrate your scale of enjoyment. So this

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Speaker 1: past year, what did we have? We had I think

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Speaker 1: On New Year's Day, I try and make it a

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Speaker 1: bowl games. Everyone knows how New Year's Day is structured.

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Speaker 1: But I pinpointed the reason why, and it's because I

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Speaker 1: And you know, I actually go back now and I

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Speaker 1: especially on that day, because there's this group. You know

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Speaker 1: look around and people are enjoying New Year's Day. Those

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Speaker 1: Next up, you guys thought I was about to do something,

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Speaker 1: show tonight, Craig Rush asks, do you see Arkansas taking

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Speaker 1: harsh allegations that have floated around the twenty four seven

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, there is this middle ground. It's massive. Actually,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more likely that production wise they're

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Speaker 1: They opened against Cincinnati. Well, Cincinnati's better than Rice, you know,

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Speaker 1: just thought it was like the coolest thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know they had them. I had been an Academy,

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Speaker 1: but I had not seen that because I have not

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Speaker 1: purchased a tent from them. And so what I haven't

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Speaker 1: told you yet that I did immediately after the show

433
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Speaker 1: is I got in touch with Academy and said I

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Speaker 1: want tents. I want some many tents, and they found

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Speaker 1: us some three, I think. So the tents are on

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Speaker 1: their way. Somewhere between wherever the distribution center is in

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Speaker 1: Nashville are three little mini tents. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put them. We don't really have anything other

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Speaker 1: than our thermi which is the plural of thermos on

440
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Speaker 1: the desk right now. We have a chalice of Supremacy,

441
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Speaker 1: which is singular. So it's not shalli. Stars are just stars.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have an Academy mini tent somewhere in

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Speaker 1: here in the very near future that I can virtually

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Speaker 1: promise you, so looking forward to that. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: Academy dot Com if you can't get there in person,

446
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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors if you can, and they will

447
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, as will wee because they make this show

448
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Speaker 1: possible free of charge. They are watching us tonight in Camilla, Georgia.

449
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Speaker 1: Big tornado came through there in the late nineties. I

450
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Speaker 1: still vividly remember that Hot Springs, Arkansas. Third Arkansas shout

451
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Speaker 1: out also tuned in the other night. I'm just telling

452
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Speaker 1: you there's a little inside baseball going on there. The

453
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Speaker 1: other night, Jesse told me I'm gonna start a counter

454
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Speaker 1: every time you mentioned the state of Arkansas. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start a counter. Well, buddy, get your counter going, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not backing away from a challenge. I'll hit the

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Speaker 1: Arkansas over every time I got Arkansas going to the

458
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Speaker 1: final four in my Bracket two, I'm gonna go ahead

459
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Speaker 1: and throw it out there. But let's get back to football.

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Speaker 1: So this question is probably gonna draw some ire from

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Speaker 1: some of you. But I got my reasons, just like

462
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Speaker 1: you got your reasons. Colin, here's your endpoint. Josh Pate's

463
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Speaker 1: transit van asks the next question. There is a story

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Speaker 1: behind this, which I will wrap it up with. But

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Speaker 1: Josh Pat's transit van asks, since you travel a lot,

466
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Speaker 1: what is the mount rushmore of road trip snacks. I

467
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Speaker 1: have no way to answer this other than just the truth.

468
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Speaker 1: I travel in a different way than most of you do.

469
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Speaker 1: As I found out today, it used to be that

470
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Speaker 1: I would go to a gas station. Now I'm on

471
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Speaker 1: the road a lot, obviously in the fall, and I would,

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Speaker 1: you know, stock up on the usuals, and I would

473
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Speaker 1: just load myself up with sugar and butter and carbs

474
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Speaker 1: and all the like, and I just feel gross afterwards,

475
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Speaker 1: just who It took him till like Wednesday of working

476
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Speaker 1: out every day when I got back in town to

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Speaker 1: feel normal again. So I said, something's got to be

478
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Speaker 1: done well. Normally that would just mean portion control for

479
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Speaker 1: an average human being. Your boy's not average. So what

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Speaker 1: I ended up doing, which I still do today, is

481
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Speaker 1: I formed a new habit. Here's what it consists of.

482
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Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like a psychopath tendency and it kind

483
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Speaker 1: of is. Just bear with me. What I do, Josh

484
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Speaker 1: Payte transit band is I take a bottle of Desiani,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, whatever brand of water you want to drink,

486
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Speaker 1: and I'll drink the water down to a quarter full,

487
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Speaker 1: so leave a quarter of the water that was in there.

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Speaker 1: Then take two scoops of Wave Protein. I choose brand Optimum,

489
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Speaker 1: but they don't sponsor the show. So that's the last

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Speaker 1: time we'll mention them. Put two scoops in there, which

491
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Speaker 1: equation about fifty two grams of protein, and then I

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Speaker 1: will shake it up, and then I will fill the

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Speaker 1: remainder of the bottle with coldbrew coffee and I'll fill

494
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Speaker 1: it all the way up on the top. Mix it again,

495
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Speaker 1: and then you have a perfect mixture of hydration, water, caffeine,

496
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Speaker 1: cold brew and sustenance protein fifty two grams of it,

497
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Speaker 1: which keeps you just full enough because it has a

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Speaker 1: thick enough consistency to where you're not just drinking normal liquid.

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Speaker 1: It actually sticks to your bones, as me Ma would

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Speaker 1: say a little bit, and it keeps you from not

501
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Speaker 1: being hungry. You're not starving anymore. You're not full, but

502
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Speaker 1: you're not starving anymore. If you can combine that with

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Speaker 1: just some beef jerky or you know, maybe the occasional

504
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Speaker 1: little kid sized bag of cheese, it's that can get

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Speaker 1: me where I need to go. And i know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you hate on this, but I'm told Domer

507
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Speaker 1: Bundy travel the exact same way, so I'm not alone.

508
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Speaker 1: A lot of people have done it before. I'm just

509
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Speaker 1: the latest quarter of water and then two scoops of

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Speaker 1: Whey and then cole Brew coffee, mix it up, call

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Speaker 1: it day, and you don't feel gross afterwards. You may

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Speaker 1: get looked that sideways if you share this story like

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Speaker 1: I just did, but you don't get looked at as

514
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Speaker 1: as I used to, because man, those those trail mix

515
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Speaker 1: family bags that I would just I would just pour in.

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Speaker 1: I also frequented Wendy's the triple, you know, not even

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Speaker 1: not even the junior, I'd get the triples. So something

518
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Speaker 1: had to change. And this is discipline. It may sound

519
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Speaker 1: crazy to you, but it's a discipline to me. So

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Speaker 1: that's my road trip go to I advise it. You know,

521
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Speaker 1: it does work. But that caffeine, because I drink multiples

522
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Speaker 1: of these, that caffeine does kick in because you're getting

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Speaker 1: the amount of protein per drink that you would in

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Speaker 1: a normal meal. I mean that's over fifty grams of protein.

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Speaker 1: So you don't want to just down them like their

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Speaker 1: like their Pacific cooler, you know, Caprice sons. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how I roll now. And when I drive homes

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Speaker 1: about five hours, I do the same thing. Get home

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Speaker 1: at two am, I've ingested like the equivalent of four

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Speaker 1: hundred milligrams of caffeine, really really easy and peaceful to

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Speaker 1: go to sleep. After that, I'm all out of sorts.

532
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Speaker 1: So next up, I don't even know what order we're

533
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Speaker 1: going in. This is a grab bag in the truest

534
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Speaker 1: sense of the word. Here Filo asks what are the

535
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Speaker 1: top five rivalries in college football? This one will be controversial.

536
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Speaker 1: I'm going to start exactly where you think i'd start.

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Speaker 1: But I've got different criteria for these sorts of things.

538
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Speaker 1: So I care about what it means nationally, I care

539
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Speaker 1: about how rabid and intense it is. I care about

540
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Speaker 1: the ramifications. Does it mean something outside of just that

541
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Speaker 1: rivalry those two programs. But then there's also this other

542
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Speaker 1: attachment that I have. I love the nuance. Sometimes you

543
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Speaker 1: can't have both. Sometimes you can't have a big national

544
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Speaker 1: rivalry and the nuance. And I love trophies, love them.

545
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: So there's going to be a healthy mixture from that

546
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Speaker 1: criteria in this top five. Number one, it's pretty obvious

547
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Speaker 1: it's Michigan Ohio State. I grew up in the South.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people will counter with what number two is,

549
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Speaker 1: which is the Iron Bowl. The reason I always sided

550
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Speaker 1: with Ohio State Michigan, it's because I thought those are

551
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Speaker 1: two national brands, whereas Bama versus Auburn is a national

552
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Speaker 1: brand and a more regional brand. That's it. Iron Bowl's

553
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Speaker 1: plenty intents. I've been to a number of them, but

554
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Speaker 1: I got to go to that game for the first

555
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Speaker 1: time last year, and that's pretty intense too. So the

556
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Speaker 1: number two game, what twenty ten footage was showing, by

557
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Speaker 1: the way, the late Philip Lutson kirkn with a touchdown

558
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: catch there and then the kick six. So Iron Bowl

559
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Speaker 1: clearly number two. Man, this thing's really really special, really unique.

560
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Speaker 1: Someone asked me earlier today, it's going to be put

561
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Speaker 1: in a future episode. What's the most impressive singular performance

562
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I've witnessed in person? It actually comes from this game.

563
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: It comes from the Iron Bowl, but we're not going

564
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Speaker 1: to talk about that tonight. But yeah, been to several

565
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Speaker 1: of those. Always delivers, I mean even this past year,

566
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Speaker 1: when you expect to blow out, it always delivers, all right.

567
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Speaker 1: The number three game I also got to experience for

568
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Speaker 1: the first time this past year, and it was Texas Oklahoma. Now,

569
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Speaker 1: I'll be truthful with you. Before this past year, I

570
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: did not rank this game as high, but it was

571
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: out of ignorance. I had not experienced it before. When

572
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I went to the game, I got it. It just

573
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: kind of all the stuff I had heard about the

574
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: game that I used to think was hyperbole, it was real.

575
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: It clicked. It helps that I saw an instant classic,

576
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: highest scoring Red River Shootout game in history. We have

577
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: enough respect for the rivalry to call it by its

578
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: real name. By the way, so ou Texas is my

579
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: number three game. Now. I told you when I went there.

580
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. They don't play Bama Auburn

581
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Speaker 1: at Legion Field anymore. They don't play Ohio State Michigan

582
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Speaker 1: in a neutral site. So this is a true neutral

583
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: site game. It's like the Big Twelves equivalent for now

584
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve of Georgia, Florida and Jacksonville. So it's

585
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful setting. Love it, Love everything about Red River

586
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Speaker 1: shoot Out. Speaking of which, the number four game is

587
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville special. Every year it is Georgia, it is Florida.

588
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: We'll call this one the cocktail party. Again. We don't

589
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: care how sanitized it's become. Here at Pate State, we

590
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: believe in tradition and we believe in calling your rivalry game.

591
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: What God intended the rivalry game to be called, in

592
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: this case, the world's largest outdoor cocktail party. I never

593
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: partake because I'm inside doing the Lord's work, and I'm

594
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: doing work for you. You know, someone's got to go

595
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: stand on the sidelines and watch these games, and so

596
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: I will gladly bear that burden for you. This one's

597
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: really intense, really intense, really chippy, really personal. A lot

598
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: of these kids grew up across varying well across the

599
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: two state lines. Border rivalries are always great, but this

600
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: one always has added. Obviously, implications of the sec East

601
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: been to several of these grew up watching it. So

602
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: number four Georgia Florida. Now insert a little bit of controversy,

603
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: and this is personal preference, so deal with it. My

604
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: number five rivalry game is Iowa Minnesota Florida. Rosdale is

605
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: my favorite trophy in college football. Nay, my favorite trophy

606
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: in sports. It's just a pig to some of you,

607
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: but it's the pig to me, even better than Babe

608
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Floyida of Rosedale. And because of Florida of Rosedale being

609
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: on the line hanging in the balance constitutes look at him.

610
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: He's so beautiful FLOIDA Rosdale's so great. This is my

611
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: number five rivalry game. Shout out to anyone out there

612
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: who can secure us either a mini replica of Florida

613
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Rosedale or just a life size floida Rosdale. Because if

614
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Speaker 1: you don't think I would bump that Academy Mini ten

615
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: for a floida Rosedale, at least for a show, you're

616
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: kidding yourself. Florid Academy means a lot to me. So

617
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: does Floyda Rosdale. For a kid who grew up in Georgia,

618
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I think I may love Florida Rosdale more than any

619
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Speaker 1: other citizen in the history of the Peach State. So

620
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: there's the five there, Michigan, Ohio, State, Auburn, Alabama, ou Texas, Florida, Georgia,

621
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Speaker 1: and Iowa, Minnesota, Minnesota. For the record, it leads that

622
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: series sixty two to fifty one and two. I believe

623
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Speaker 1: there should be no ties. You can't cut Floyd in half.

624
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: That would be called butchery. I believe that Floyd should

625
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: go one hundred percent to one side or the other.

626
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: And that's my take on that. Next up, where are

627
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: we headed? We are headed to Michael Michael Gold asks.

628
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: With Billy Napier or Mario Christoval and Mike Norvel running

629
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Florida now the state of it seems evident the recruiting

630
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: script is going to flip, at least to some degree,

631
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Speaker 1: which program from the state of Florida becomes the next

632
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: college football playoff contender in the next two to five years.

633
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Could there be two teams from the state. Well, here's

634
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: the direction I go. Since there's not a whole lot

635
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: of skill in forecasting this right now, you would think

636
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: if you didn't know anything about recruiting, you just watched

637
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: the sport from like five hundred thousand feet, you just

638
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: watched it from space, you would think Florida State's got

639
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Speaker 1: to be the answer here just because their coaching staff's

640
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Speaker 1: been there longer. You got brand new staffs in Coral

641
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Speaker 1: Gables and Gainesville. That's actually not my answer. I think

642
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: there's a huge wild card element with Florida State right now.

643
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, the goal we talked about this the other night.

644
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 1: The goal amongst fan base right now is get us

645
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: eight wins this year. How do we get to eight wins?

646
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Then we'll worry about the future once we can secure

647
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Speaker 1: that eight win threshold. Because that means, if we get

648
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: eight wins, we've played at a certain level. Fill in

649
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Speaker 1: the blanks. They've had to rely on the transfer portal heavily.

650
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: They just they haven't had the classical reboot cause things

651
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: were a mess there. And like we've said many times,

652
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: we credit Mike Norvel for being honest about how big

653
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: a mess that he inherited. Well, we're talking about the

654
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Speaker 1: future here, So is he going to get Florida State

655
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Speaker 1: to a playoff caliber before Billy Napier does it Florida

656
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: before Mario Cristabaal does it Miami. I'm not so sure

657
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: of that, but I'm not taking an emphatic stance either way.

658
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: This is spring, this is fence riding season, so I'm

659
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: riding the fence. I think it's going to be either

660
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Florida State, Miami or Florida. How's that? But in all seriousness,

661
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I just go where the recruiting wins take me. And

662
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: so the recruiting wins, wins and wins, I guess they

663
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: take me a little bit more down towards Miami. It's

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Speaker 1: not that I doubt Billy Napier and his staff are

665
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: going to recruit at a reasonably high level certainly better

666
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: than the previous staff did. Because they're gonna emphasize it more,

667
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: they'll just be better at it. But I don't have

668
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: any doubt about how Miami's gonna recruit none. I mean,

669
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest shocks over the next five years

670
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: in college football would be if Miami wasn't consistently cracking

671
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: the top ten or higher in the twenty four to

672
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: seven Sports team recruiting rankings, then there will be a

673
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Speaker 1: fixture in that. Now, look, I understand how this game works.

674
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Speaker 1: I understand that acquiring the talent, or as we put it,

675
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: going and getting the groceries, No, it doesn't automatically make

676
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: the meal. But on the other side, we also understand

677
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: no one ever made a meal with crap ingredients. And

678
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: that's a really, really harsh way of saying what they've

679
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: had there hasn't been good enough. Got to get better

680
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: with better ingredients. They will get those better ingredients. And

681
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: because of that, if you're asking me to choose from

682
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: a group of relative unknowns in terms of their future,

683
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I think I would choose Miami. I wouldn't be surprised

684
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Speaker 1: if it were Florida. I'd be more surprised if it

685
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Speaker 1: were Florida State. But there's not a shock from any

686
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: of these programs. I will reiterate, as I have a

687
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: million times, this will just be a million and one.

688
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I will reiterate. If you're out there, where do we

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: want to put you tonight? Let's put you at Washington State.

690
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Let's say you're in Pullman, Washington and you root for

691
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: the Cougars. But also you're a college football fan. You

692
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: don't want the same three or four programs with a

693
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: death grip on the sport. This is where your attention

694
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: needs to be. It needs to be with your program first,

695
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: and then the state of Florida, and to a lesser degree,

696
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I guess it'd be counterintuitive for you to pull for

697
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: southern California. But if you want to pull for Texas,

698
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Texas A and M, and then the big three in

699
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Florida on the recruiting trail, it will behoove you. If

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Speaker 1: you want that imbalance at the top of the sport,

701
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Speaker 1: if you want competitive balance at the top of the

702
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: sport rather, it will greatly behoove you to have a

703
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: recruiting shift. That's where it's at. I will sing that

704
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: song until I'm blue in the face. The expansionist crowds

705
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: over here telling you the answer to solving the competitive

706
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: imbalance equation is with expanding the playoff. It's garbage. That's

707
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: not the way. The only way is if recruiting in

708
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Florida changes, while recruiting in Texas changes, while recruiting in

709
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: southern California changes, you do that, and it doesn't matter

710
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: how big your playoff is or how small your playoff is,

711
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: you will have a more competitive sport at the top.

712
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Never gonna be where it's a wide open field where

713
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: thirty teams could win it any given year, But there

714
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: is a big difference in going into a season where

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Speaker 1: three or four teams have a legit shot as opposed

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Speaker 1: to ten to twelve teams. Huge difference, monumental difference your

717
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: expansion playoff. That's not gonna do that. But changing the

718
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Speaker 1: recruiting dynamic is and folks like Napier, Cristbaul Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 1: Mike Norvel, Steve Sarkisian, jimbo Fishent, those are the guys

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Speaker 1: who could get that done. Moving along, after I scratch

721
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Speaker 1: my nose, next up is Hayden. He said, what do

722
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: you think of the new sounding Brian Harson after his

723
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: off season, and then he says there is no off

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00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: season with a wiki emoji thank you there. I think

725
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: Brian Harson needs to be front facing a whole lot

726
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: more mentioned this Slash show. I want to say Brian Harson.

727
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Before they opened spring practice, he did a couple of shows.

728
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Speaker 1: He did Cole Kuberlick and Greg mc mackailwoy show, which

729
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: I was on this morning, by the way, and then

730
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: he did Next Round in Birmingham with Ryan Brown and

731
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor and those guys. I'm on that

732
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: show a lot good friends of the program, by the way,

733
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: so give them a follow if you haven't already. He

734
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: did both of those shows the other day, did a

735
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: few other media appearances, and what's funny is it's really

736
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Speaker 1: the first time you've heard from him publicly since all

737
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: this mess that happened around the program and kind of

738
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: around him over the past month and a half. And

739
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, in the absence of you

740
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: speaking out, other people speak for you, and oftentimes they're

741
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: misrepresenting you. A lot of people misrepresented Brian Harson. You

742
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: notice how we shied away from it on the show.

743
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: I got accused of this. Actually, we got accused of

744
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: shying away from covering the Harson story. There was no

745
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: shying away from it. There was nothing to be reported.

746
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: And I hold some of you that behind the scenes

747
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: in a pretty emphatic manner, because you kind of wanted

748
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: to come at me in a sarcastic way. There was

749
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: nothing to report, and as you see born out now,

750
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: there was never anything out there. And so Brian Harson,

751
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: first time he speaks publicly, he addressed it head on

752
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: the other day. He didn't shy away from any of that,

753
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, one of the hardest things

754
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: to do was I was sitting around we were on vacation.

755
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I come back and there's all these rumors floating around

756
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: and you know they're not true, but yet you're really

757
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: powerless to do anything about it. I mean, there's a

758
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: guy with an egg for his profile picture in fifty

759
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: eight followers on Twitter and he's saying something about you.

760
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: What do you really do about it? Well, look, I'm

761
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: not his legal representation, I'm not his agent. I'd tell

762
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: him to talk more. He's not some recluse. You know,

763
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't sound like a hermit with a mic shoved

764
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: in his face. Brian Harson. He represents himself in this

765
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: program very well, and so I really thought it was

766
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: refreshing when I heard the two interviews he did the

767
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: other day. He's always welcome on this show. We were

768
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: talking before the show, should we try and get Brian

769
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: Harrison on. I think we will. So that's the first

770
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: thing I think. The second thing I think is I

771
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: think it was the next round guys asking Brian Harrison

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: the other day about what he knew of Jetgate. A

773
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of you who are Auburn fans know about Jetgate.

774
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: Most national folks wouldn't. I asked Jesse today, I mean,

775
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: what has Jesse heard of at this point? So Jesse

776
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: had not heard of Jetgate. So gather around, kids, a

777
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: little forty five second story for you. Here. Once upon

778
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: a time, there was a guy named Tobby Tuberville. He

779
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: was not in Congress. He was just a football coach,

780
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: and he was the football coach at Auburn University. And

781
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, they didn't do as good

782
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: as they wanted to do at Auburn, and some of

783
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: the shall we say, powers that be who could afford

784
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: private aviation took that private aviation in the dead of

785
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: night to Kentucky, and they wanted to meet with a

786
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Bobby Petrino, who had been

787
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator at one time at Auburn but was

788
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: the current head coach at Loewe. And they just assumed,

789
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: we'll take care of Tuberville, don't worry. Why wait until

790
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: we fire him, though, Let's go ahead and hire his replacement.

791
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: Bad news, kids. Word got out. And the thing about

792
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: it is, if you're operating your fantasy football team, if

793
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: you're playing Xbox, doesn't really matter. There aren't protocols that

794
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: you have to follow. But in the real world here,

795
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: you can't just go flying to Kentucky and interviewing guys

796
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: on a whim. You kind of have a set of

797
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: procedures you have to follow. They didn't. Tubberville ends up

798
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: staying at Auburn, and then there's a lot of support

799
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: that he galvanizes amongst the community because it was a

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00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: few acting supposedly on behalf of the many, and the

801
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: many looked around and said, you ain't acting in my behalf.

802
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: I kind of liked the guy. Let's give him a shot,

803
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: let's root for Himlet's give him chance. Let's get behind

804
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: himive him everything he needs. All they did the next

805
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: year is go undefeated, and then they won the Sugar Bowl.

806
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: After they won the SEC championship, they got boxed out

807
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: of the BCS Championship game, didn't get a chance to

808
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: play for it. But the point it remains, there was drama.

809
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: There was a scandal that was internal in the making,

810
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: and as a result of it, it fell flat and

811
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: the head coach there benefited as a result of it.

812
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Brian Harson answered the questions about Jetgate the other day

813
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: exactly as he should. But that is what you're holding

814
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: onto as hope. If you're an Auburn fan, if you're

815
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: inside the program down there, it happened before, could it

816
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: happen again? I can assure you no one's going to

817
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: expect anything of Auburn football this year. The fan base

818
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: down there, we'll probably have greatly tempered expectations. Nationally and regionally.

819
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: No one will expect him to do much of anything.

820
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: So what if, just for argument's sake, it's fun, it's spring,

821
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: it's March. There's no harm in this. What if the

822
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: people whose opinions matter the most aren't opposed to Brian Harson.

823
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: They're not against them at all. They don't have this

824
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: negative image of him like some powerful people down there do.

825
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: What if the folks in that locker room. What if

826
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: the administration, you know, what if the coaching staff, what

827
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: if they got his back. What if he finally has

828
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: the combination of people he needs in the program, And

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Speaker 1: what if all of a sudden, Auburn continues to trot

830
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: out there as a seven to fourteen point underdog this fall.

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Speaker 1: And maybe it's turnover margin one week, maybe it's special

832
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: teams play the next week. But they just keep bubblegumbing

833
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: and paper clipping wins together, and all of a sudden,

834
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: it's Halloween and you're saying, how in the world is

835
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Auburn still in the SEC Western Division race. I mean,

836
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: they're about to enter a key stretch here. This actually

837
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: could happen. It happened before. That's what you have to

838
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: hope for if you're an Auburn fan right now. So

839
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: I say all that to say, I still think there's

840
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the book of the Brian Harson era

841
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: at Auburn that has yet to be written, kind of

842
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: like that Natasha Bedingfield song that we heard on TV

843
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: earlier today. Next up we have I think this is yeah,

844
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: this is our last one. I really appreciate you guys

845
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: being tuned in by the way. I know there are

846
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: distractions out there, but remember you will be rewarded if

847
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: you've already forgotten that keyword. Go back to the beginning

848
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: of the episode. This is from Kirk asks are college

849
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: football athletes on a path to dropping the educational aspect

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Speaker 1: all together? Once upon a time, the great philosopher of Columbus, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: fame Cardele Jones said, and I quote, we ain't come

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Speaker 1: here to play no school. At the time he was

853
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Speaker 1: chastised for it. And now we look at pictures of

854
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Speaker 1: bo Nigs with Bojangles endorsements in front of us, and

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Speaker 1: we ask, are these the same universes that we're talking about?

856
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young got a number of endorsement deals. And so

857
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Speaker 1: now this has led people to ask, what is at

858
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Speaker 1: this point a logical follow up question, and that is

859
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Speaker 1: what is the end? Where are we headed? Where's all

860
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Speaker 1: this going to end up? Because it's not just gonna

861
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Speaker 1: sit still like we're on a slippery slope. I think

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Speaker 1: whether you like it or you don't like it, we're

863
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Speaker 1: on a slippery slope right now. No one really has

864
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Speaker 1: good traction. The sport doesn't have good traction right now.

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Speaker 1: So where are we headed? Well, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of different schools of thought out there. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you one to just ponder on right now. This

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Speaker 1: is not going to happen overnight. You are probably not

869
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna like it. I'm not crazy about it. But a

870
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Speaker 1: lot of powerful people are talking about this, and it

871
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Speaker 1: hasn't really been talked about publicly a lot. There are

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Speaker 1: some people that think we are headed towards a time

873
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Speaker 1: in college football, not too far down the road, mind you,

874
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Speaker 1: where we have a true splitting. It's a philosophical dividing

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Speaker 1: of college football and universities. And if you want to

876
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: call them leagues, call them leagues. But there will be

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Speaker 1: essentially two worlds that exist. One of the worlds is

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Speaker 1: one that maintains the academic attachment, the true student athlete model,

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Speaker 1: and the other acknowledges what it sees as an inevitability

880
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: or a reality at that point and says, some of

881
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Speaker 1: them really didn't come here to play no school, did they,

882
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: So you know what, let's stop pretending. And also that

883
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Speaker 1: group over there who wants essentially a semi pro model.

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00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: They're also going to look around and they're going to say,

885
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: right now, this is chaos. Toothpaste is out of the tube,

886
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: this is chaos. We can't go backwards. So what we

887
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: have now is we have a mess of epic proportions

888
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: with nil, we have a mess of epic proportions with

889
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Guys could leave whenever they want to.

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00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: It's complete havoc on a roster management system. So since

891
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: the reverse button doesn't work on this thing, that group's

892
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: going to say, let's go down the road. Let's get

893
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: it to the end of the road. We're headed there anywhere.

894
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Let's get there. Let's get to where those guys can

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00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: have employment status attached to them, and however we have

896
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: to do that, we do it. But not only that,

897
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Speaker 1: then they can collectively bargain they have at their disposal now,

898
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Speaker 1: probably TV revenue distribution. A lot of things open up,

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00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities open up. But here's what it

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Speaker 1: coincides with. It coincides with being honest about what we're

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00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: doing here, and being honest about the fact that this

902
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: is about football more than academics, and we're not going

903
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: to pretend it's otherwise. Also, you got to keep in

904
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Speaker 1: mind there's this pesky little thing standing in the way

905
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Speaker 1: of a lot of this right now called Title nine.

906
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: You want to know how you get away from that.

907
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: You get away from it by not being attached to

908
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: the university in an academic fashion at all. You're just

909
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: a brand. You are licensing essentially the branding of that

910
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: school at that point. So Florida State Seminole football, they

911
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: may still play in dolk Walker Stadium, it may be

912
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Speaker 1: on the campus down there in Tallahassee, but you may

913
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Speaker 1: see a day where that running back isn't in class

914
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Speaker 1: at all. He's not even enrolled at the university. But

915
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Speaker 1: what he is is he is employed, and what he

916
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: is is insured, and what he is is he's getting

917
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Speaker 1: a cut of that TV revenue. He's getting distribution through

918
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Speaker 1: all sorts of different channels. Still has his NIL, but

919
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: what he has now is he has a contract in

920
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: turn that he has signed coming out of high school,

921
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: goes wherever he goes, and you're not just going to

922
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Speaker 1: move around, And there's a lot more structure in NIL.

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Speaker 1: Now we can do it relatively because we now are

924
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Speaker 1: acknowledging that you are an employee. Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: There are gonna be some programs that are willing to

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Speaker 1: go down that road. There are gonna be some conferences

927
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Speaker 1: that are willing to go down that road. There are

928
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Speaker 1: going to be others that aren't. So you could see

929
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Speaker 1: a world twenty twenty five, twenty thirty, twenty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when I tell you there are real

931
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Speaker 1: people who have real power in the sport that think

932
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Speaker 1: we're headed this way. You could see a world down

933
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Speaker 1: the road where it's not so much there's the SEC,

934
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Speaker 1: there's the Big twelve, there's the Big ten. It could

935
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Speaker 1: be there's the semi pro version of college football, and

936
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Speaker 1: there's the classical version of college football over here. And

937
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: there could be universities like Stanford that listen to that

938
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Speaker 1: proposal and say, absolutely not, we are not even entertaining that.

939
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Speaker 1: And there could be programs like South Carolina that says,

940
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: you know what, not only are we going to entertain it,

941
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be at the forefront of it. We're hopping in.

942
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Speaker 1: Where do we sign at that point? What does college

943
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: football look like? Now? As you think about that and

944
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: how messy this is, also, remember we have not as

945
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: a sport decide I did on playoff structure in the future. Well,

946
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: it stands the reason. Before you decide on playoff structure,

947
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: don't you need to know what the structure of the

948
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Speaker 1: sport's going to be. I mean, we're not signing a

949
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: two or three year deal. It's going to be a

950
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: long term deal that we're talking about signing coming up. Now.

951
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: When you want to know why everyone talks about what

952
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: a headache this is, and you want to know why

953
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: everyone talks about how many moving parts there are, these

954
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: are the moving parts. It's the stuff they tell you

955
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Speaker 1: about whether the Rose Bowl will move or not, and

956
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: the stuff about how many conferences are going to have autobids.

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00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: Those are surface based. What I'm talking about are foundational changes.

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00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: These are like seismic changes that could be on the

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00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: horizon as opposed to surface based changes. So to answer

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00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: the question, even though it brings me no joy, because

961
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Speaker 1: I like the way the sport was when I was

962
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, Grandpa tell me about the good

963
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: old days. Yeah, I do think there is probably coming

964
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Speaker 1: an era in the not too distant future where there

965
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: is at least a portion of college football detached from

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Speaker 1: the classic student athlete model. Yeah, hope, I'm wrong, so

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. I really appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: being tuned in tonight. Wherever you are. Remember that code

969
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: word I gave you at the first of the show, madness, madness, madness.

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00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Just keep it in your mind. I will give you

971
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Speaker 1: a call to action one day, also in the not

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Speaker 1: too distant future. For that For everyone watching and everyone

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Speaker 1: that's going to listen to the replay, this is the

974
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Speaker 1: time of year where we really learn who our core

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Speaker 1: audience is and we want to reward you recording me.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being tuned in. For the production executives,

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Speaker 1: for producer Jesse, for director Colin I'm Josh Pate, have

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Speaker 1: yourselves a great rest of your evening. Will be back

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Speaker 1: here same time Sunday night. Until then, bless