WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Jennifer Wix Part 2

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<v Speaker 2>On March twenty fifth, two thousand and four, Jennifer Wicks

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<v Speaker 2>and her daughter, two year old Adriana disappeared. Last week,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked to Jennifer's younger half sister, Casey, who has

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<v Speaker 2>been fighting for ants about what happened to her sister

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<v Speaker 2>and her only niece. Casey said that since Jennifer disappeared,

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<v Speaker 2>their family has heard conflicting stories about the last time

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<v Speaker 2>that Jennifer was seen from Joey Benton, Jennifer's boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Since December of two thousand and three, Jennifer and Adriana

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<v Speaker 2>had been living with Joey and his family on their property,

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<v Speaker 2>first in an outbuilding and then in the Benton's three

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom family home. But according to Casey and Jennifer's mother Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer's life at the Benton House had become chaotic. Though

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're only hearing one side of the story, we

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<v Speaker 2>do know from phone calls that arguments were happening between

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer and members of Joey's family. On March twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, the day Jennifer and Adriana disappeared, Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>called her aunt Lisa. She told her Aunt Lisa that

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<v Speaker 2>she was going to tell Joey that she was leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the Benton House. She said she was going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get joe to move out with her, but she

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<v Speaker 2>said that if Joey didn't agree, Jennifer was leaving with

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana on her own and coming to her aunt Lisa's.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa said that they could stay at her house and

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<v Speaker 2>left out her spare key, but Jennifer never used it

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<v Speaker 2>and after that day she was never heard from again

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<v Speaker 2>by anyone in her family. Jennifer's family has claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>Joey told their family in law enforcement different stories about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened that day. Casey said that Joey told her

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<v Speaker 2>that on the day Jennifer went missing, he picked Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>and Adriana up at his family's home after leaving work.

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<v Speaker 3>This was two thousand and four. Jennifer did not have.

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<v Speaker 2>A cell phone, so Joey said that he drove Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>to a local grocery store and that she went.

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<v Speaker 3>In to use the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he then drove her and Adriana to

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<v Speaker 2>a gas station in cross Plains. There, he says Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>and Adriana got into a vehicle, which he described as

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<v Speaker 2>a white four door Sedan.

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<v Speaker 3>After that they disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>Initially, Joey had told police a similar story about leaving

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<v Speaker 2>work and then driving Jennifer and Adriana to a grocery

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<v Speaker 2>store and then to an Exon gas station.

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<v Speaker 3>But then in.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty thirteen, the Robertson County Sheriff's Office posted a statement

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<v Speaker 2>about the case. They said that Joey had stated something different,

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<v Speaker 2>that Jennifer had come back to his home and that

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<v Speaker 2>he had seen her alive and well a day later,

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<v Speaker 2>on March twenty sixth. In twenty twenty four, Joey's father,

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Benton Senior, was hit with multiple weapons charges and

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<v Speaker 2>charges related to sexual exploitation of a miner. This led

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<v Speaker 2>to the Benton family home where Jennifer and Adriana had

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<v Speaker 2>been living, being raided. After that raid, Jennifer Wix's family

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<v Speaker 2>filed a civil lawsuit against the Benton family for wrongful death,

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<v Speaker 2>and in that lawsuit, they allege that Joseph Senior may

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<v Speaker 2>have been responsible.

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<v Speaker 3>For Jennifer and Adriana's death.

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<v Speaker 2>After the raid, Joseph Senior was released but failed to

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<v Speaker 2>appear for a hearing, so he ended up on the

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee Bureau of Investigations Most Wanted Fugitives list. Then Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>Senior disappeared until on July fourth, twenty twenty five, a

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<v Speaker 2>decomposing leg was found near Sulfur Fork Creek in Springfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Days later, forensics confirmed that leg was Joseph Benton Seniors.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Helen Gone Murder Line. So this week I

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<v Speaker 2>want to take a closer look at the conflicting information

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<v Speaker 2>that Jennifer's family say they have received over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Could Jennifer have left voluntarily and started a new life.

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<v Speaker 2>Could she have left with someone in that white car

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<v Speaker 2>and then that person harmed her or Adriana, Or could

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<v Speaker 2>as the Wicks family suspects, the answers lie closer to

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<v Speaker 2>where Jennifer was last seen on or around the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred acres.

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<v Speaker 3>Owned by the Bentons.

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<v Speaker 2>First, let's explore the theory that Jennifer could have left

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<v Speaker 2>with the person in the white car, and she could

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<v Speaker 2>be living somewhere else and for whatever reason, just voluntarily disappeared.

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<v Speaker 3>And wanted to go off the grid.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer's family have been adamant they do not believe that

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<v Speaker 2>this is a possibility, and I got another piece of

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<v Speaker 2>information that makes me agree with Jennifer's family. According to

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<v Speaker 2>what Jennifer's sister, Casey, has been told by law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>since March twenty fifth, not only has Jennifer not been

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<v Speaker 2>in contact with anyone in her family, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that she has been in contact with anyone at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been no trace of Jennifer or Adriana being

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<v Speaker 2>alive anywhere else since that day. Casey told me that,

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<v Speaker 2>according to her conversations with law enforcement, neither Jennifer nor

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana's Social Security numbers, which she would have needed for

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<v Speaker 2>lots of things, including doctor visits for herself and her daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>was never used again. Kathy told Dateline she believed that

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter was deceased, but at the time she was

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<v Speaker 2>holding out hope that Adriana may still be alive and

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<v Speaker 2>out there somewhere. Kathy told Dateline that even if something

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<v Speaker 2>happened and someone killed Jennifer, that that person would not

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<v Speaker 2>take the life of such a small, innocent child. That

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana had been left somewhere or given to someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement has shared an age progress photo of Adriana

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<v Speaker 2>in case Jennifer's killer or killers either took Adriana or

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<v Speaker 2>gave her to someone else. Kathy told news Channel five

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<v Speaker 2>that she also did an ancestry DNA test just in

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<v Speaker 2>case Adriana is still out there, if there was any

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<v Speaker 2>possibility of that, however remote. She wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that Adriana could reach out to her family someday and

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<v Speaker 2>that they could be reunited. But Kathy, Casey and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the Whigs family feel that the Benton property

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<v Speaker 2>could have answers as to what happened to Jennifer. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there was Joseph Benton, Senior's decomposing leg You may

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<v Speaker 2>remember that last week. Casey told us that in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, she met with the district attorney in Robertson County,

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<v Speaker 2>but that the meeting got cut short after Joey came

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<v Speaker 2>in and said that he had information that he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to turn over to investigators. After that, he allegedly told

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<v Speaker 2>Casey and her mom, while Casey was on speakerphone, that

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer and Adriana were already dead in their room when

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<v Speaker 2>he came home from work that day on March twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, so Joey seemed to be saying

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<v Speaker 2>he found their bodies but had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>their deaths.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a huge and.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocking revelation, and this led to Kathy and Casey following

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<v Speaker 2>a wrongful death civil lawsuit against the Bentons. They stated

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<v Speaker 2>in that lawsuit that Joseph Senior killed Jennifer and Adriana

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<v Speaker 2>and that Joey helped him cover it up. In a

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<v Speaker 2>July ninth, twenty twenty five filing responding to that lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 2>Cynthia Benton and Joey Benton completely denied these allegations. They

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<v Speaker 2>say they had no knowledge of involvement in or connection

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<v Speaker 2>with the disappearance of Jennifer or of Adriana. We reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to Joey and Cynthia for comment. We didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>back from Joey, and Cynthia told us she did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to comment. Cynthia Benton has filed a motion to

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<v Speaker 2>dismiss the civil lawsuit, and in that dismissal, she claims

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<v Speaker 2>that the civil suit quote failed to show how she

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<v Speaker 2>and Joey Benton caused injury or harm to Jennifer or

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana end quote. While this was happening, while the drama

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<v Speaker 2>with the raid and the civil lawsuit was unfolding, Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>Senior seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>police raided the Benton family property in March of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. Leading up to that, in February of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, there were domestic assault charges filed against Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>Senior related to an alleged assault of his wife. He

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested and held on those charges. Now, at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>someone we don't know who alerted police to the presence

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<v Speaker 2>of a photo that Joseph had in his possession, which,

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<v Speaker 2>according to court documents, showed a minor child in a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual situation. And someone also alerted police that Joseph had

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<v Speaker 2>multiple weapons at home, which, as a convicted felon, he

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<v Speaker 2>was not allowed to have. Then, in March of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, the raid on the Benton property happened and

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<v Speaker 2>police found the weapons and a photo of a minor

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<v Speaker 2>child in a sexual situation. As we said last week,

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<v Speaker 2>that photo was not Adriana, and it turned out this

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<v Speaker 2>raid had nothing to do with her and Jennifer's disappearance,

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<v Speaker 2>but the photo, which according to court documents, was in

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph's possession between January and March of twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>when the raid happened, was a photo of a family member.

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<v Speaker 2>After the raid, Joseph Senior was briefly locked up in jail,

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<v Speaker 2>then he disappeared. According to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation's

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<v Speaker 2>Most Wanted Information, Joseph's last known address was listed as homeless.

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<v Speaker 3>According to media reports.

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<v Speaker 2>Cynthia Benton said she had no communication with her husband

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<v Speaker 2>since his release from jail in March. She said she

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea where he was. She had also filed

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<v Speaker 2>for divorce after the raid since he hadn't been seen

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<v Speaker 2>in months. The Tennesseean asked the Robertson County Sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 2>if there had been a missing persons report filed for Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>The department said no, there had not. Then there was

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<v Speaker 2>the shocking news about Joseph's leg being found in Springfield

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<v Speaker 2>near a creek. The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation confirmed that

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to test the DNA from the leg

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<v Speaker 2>against the CODIS database and because Joseph Senior had pleaded

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<v Speaker 2>guilty to that count of possession of prohibited weapons in

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<v Speaker 2>US of twenty twenty four. His DNA was in the system,

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<v Speaker 2>so they got a match. Joseph Senior's remains were found

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<v Speaker 2>about ten miles from the Benton home.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's been difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>To find out any more information about what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with this investigation into Joseph's leg and his disappearance. The

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<v Speaker 2>Tennesseean reported they have the same problem. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper wrote they couldn't figure out who was leading the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>The newspaper reported that they had reached out to a

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<v Speaker 2>spokesperson for the TBI, and this person referred them to

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<v Speaker 2>Robertson County Law Enforcement, saying that they were leading the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when the newspaper contacted the Robertson County Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 2>Office for comment, they were apparently told the Springfield Police

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<v Speaker 2>were in charge, but a spokesperson for Springfield told the

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper the Robertson County Sheriff's Office and the nineteenth Judicial

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<v Speaker 2>District Attorney General's office were the ones leading the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very confusing, and they were not the only

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<v Speaker 2>news outlet trying to get answers and clarity. On August

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, news Channel five also reported

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<v Speaker 2>that they reached out to the Springfield Police for more

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<v Speaker 2>details about the investigation. They said the department got back

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<v Speaker 2>to them and stated that the leg was the only

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<v Speaker 2>body part found, that there were no other body parts found,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said there was quote no indication of foul

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<v Speaker 2>play at this time end quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, a lot of people posted.

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<v Speaker 2>Comments on YouTube under that news story that reflected what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a lot of you were thinking, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you find a severed leg and come to

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<v Speaker 2>the conclusion immediately that there's no foul play. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of possibilities that.

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<v Speaker 3>Occurred to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, we don't know anything about the evidence that the

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<v Speaker 2>police have, so this is pure speculation.

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<v Speaker 3>But one possibility could.

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<v Speaker 2>Be that Joseph Senior was out in the woods and

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<v Speaker 2>either took his own life or possibly died of natural causes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was some animal likedvity and that could

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<v Speaker 2>be the reason why his leg was separated from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of his body.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, that, in my opinion, though it does seem a

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<v Speaker 2>little odd to immediately assume there's been no sign of

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<v Speaker 2>foul play. They may mean the leg did not appear

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<v Speaker 2>to be cleanly severed, meaning that it wasn't immediately obvious

0:16:02.761 --> 0:16:06.521
<v Speaker 2>that Joseph had been dismembered. But as with so many

0:16:06.561 --> 0:16:09.841
<v Speaker 2>things in this case, the exact status of the investigation

0:16:10.161 --> 0:16:14.841
<v Speaker 2>into Joseph Benton's senior's death is unclear. So where does

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<v Speaker 2>this lead the investigation into Jennifer and Adriana's disappearances and

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer's family. Over the years, Joey Benton has not said

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<v Speaker 2>much publicly about the state of the investigation. Joseph Benton, Sr.

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<v Speaker 2>Did talk to some journalists in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>He told Fox seventeen News, quote, we done everything we

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<v Speaker 2>could for a year to try to help find Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just don't know where Jennifer is end quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually Casey started doing her own investigating. Now, obviously Casey

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<v Speaker 2>and her mother are not impartial. They have made it

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<v Speaker 2>very clear that from the beginning they were suspicious of

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<v Speaker 2>Joey and his family. They started a Facebook page in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven, and more recently, in twenty twenty four, Casey

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<v Speaker 2>was interviewed on a podcast called Missing in Hushtown. And

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<v Speaker 2>in that podcast, she claimed that at the time Joey

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<v Speaker 2>and Jennifer were dating, that he had issues with drugs

0:17:15.321 --> 0:17:18.521
<v Speaker 2>and that he had had police reports filed against him

0:17:18.801 --> 0:17:23.000
<v Speaker 2>by other women. And as she kept digging, Casey found

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<v Speaker 2>even more discrepancies in Joey's story about what really happened

0:17:27.201 --> 0:17:44.441
<v Speaker 2>the day Jennifer and Adriana disappeared. Since Casey started investigating,

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<v Speaker 2>she's heard a lot of conflicting information about what Joey

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<v Speaker 2>said in the day's following Jennifer and adrian His disappearance. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Joey and Jennifer had initially met through Jennifer's cousin, Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeffrey told Casey about something that happened on the

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<v Speaker 2>night of May twenty fifth, two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 4>That night, there was a bonfire happening at his house

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<v Speaker 4>that Jennifer was supposed to be at, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like a couple's bonfire. There were three couples,

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<v Speaker 4>and Jennifer was one of the couples with Joey, and

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<v Speaker 4>so my cousin was there and my cousin's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>where's Jennifer And he says, she's at a friend's house.

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<v Speaker 3>This seemed odd to Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would Joey tell Jeffrey that Jennifer was at a

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<v Speaker 2>friend's house when he told police the next day that

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<v Speaker 2>he and Jennifer had broken up in that car ride

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<v Speaker 2>to the grocery store and then went to.

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<v Speaker 3>The gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>When the Robertson County Sheriff's Office put out that statement

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<v Speaker 2>on their website in twenty thirteen, they said they were

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<v Speaker 2>changing Jennifer and Adriana case for missing persons to homicide,

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<v Speaker 2>and in that post they said that there was quote

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<v Speaker 2>no independent confirmation that Jennifer had been at either the

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<v Speaker 2>grocery store or the gas station on March twenty five

0:18:58.321 --> 0:19:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to Casey's shop. The post also said that at some

0:19:02.001 --> 0:19:05.600
<v Speaker 2>point Joey told law enforcement that Jennifer stopped by his

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<v Speaker 2>house on the next day, on March twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>He says that Jennifer comes back to his house on

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<v Speaker 4>Friday Friday. He was working at the same job site,

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<v Speaker 4>but they got off work early, and so he was

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the living room and Jennifer pulls up to

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<v Speaker 4>their house in the same white car, but alone. She's

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<v Speaker 4>driving this car without Adriana, and she comes in to

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<v Speaker 4>get a few things, the car seat, the diaper bag,

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<v Speaker 4>and a change of clothes and stuff. And she's there

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<v Speaker 4>to get her tax refunds money, her five hundred dollars

0:19:35.681 --> 0:19:37.601
<v Speaker 4>and he says, well, my parents aren't here to give

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<v Speaker 4>it to you, and she says, okay, I'll come back tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course never shows up.

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<v Speaker 2>Later said that Joey's mother wrote her mother Kathy, a

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<v Speaker 2>check for the five hundred dollars that she said Jennifer

0:19:49.721 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 2>had gotten from her tax returns and deposited into one

0:19:52.721 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 2>of Joey's family member's accounts because at the time, Casey said,

0:19:56.721 --> 0:20:00.681
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer did not have her own bank account. Casey also

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:05.120
<v Speaker 2>has questions about the car. Joey told law enforcement that

0:20:05.161 --> 0:20:08.201
<v Speaker 2>the white car that Jennifer drove to his house was

0:20:08.241 --> 0:20:11.081
<v Speaker 2>the same one that Jennifer had gotten into the day before,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said he couldn't identify the car more precisely

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<v Speaker 2>than saying it was a four door white vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>He can't make out what kind of car it is,

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<v Speaker 4>even though he changes that story. Originally in the police report,

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<v Speaker 4>it says a white fourd do or Camaro or Mustang,

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<v Speaker 4>which those do not exist, so he changes it from

0:20:30.961 --> 0:20:32.641
<v Speaker 4>that to just a white board or car.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that Jennifer was arguing with the Bentons, but

0:20:37.001 --> 0:20:40.360
<v Speaker 2>we don't know much about those arguments or who the

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<v Speaker 2>main family member was who Jennifer had a problem with.

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<v Speaker 2>As we said last week, law enforcement have said the

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<v Speaker 2>last person to talk to Jennifer was her father, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>at around eleven am on March twenty fifth, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and four. That was the conversation where Jennifer told Michael

0:20:58.241 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that Joey's mom was acting strange and that she was scared.

0:21:02.681 --> 0:21:06.281
<v Speaker 2>Casey told me something else about that phone call. Apparently,

0:21:06.321 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 2>at some point Jennifer was under the impression that she

0:21:09.801 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and Joey were going on a picnic on that day,

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<v Speaker 2>a detail that Casey is not sure that Joey told police.

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<v Speaker 4>On the phone call with her dad after she said

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<v Speaker 4>I'm scared, dad, and he said of what she said

0:21:22.201 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 4>of his mom, she's acting weird. Her dad said, well,

0:21:24.961 --> 0:21:27.041
<v Speaker 4>why don't you have your Grainny come get you or

0:21:27.121 --> 0:21:29.841
<v Speaker 4>your mom come get you? And she's like, no, Joey's

0:21:29.881 --> 0:21:31.641
<v Speaker 4>on his way home. We're going to go on a picnic.

0:21:32.321 --> 0:21:34.961
<v Speaker 4>At that point in time, I guess joe had already

0:21:35.001 --> 0:21:37.401
<v Speaker 4>told her before he left her work or she had

0:21:37.401 --> 0:21:39.001
<v Speaker 4>talked to him earlier in the day. I don't know

0:21:39.041 --> 0:21:41.521
<v Speaker 4>what it was, but they had plans for him to

0:21:41.561 --> 0:21:44.440
<v Speaker 4>come home early. She knew he was on his way home.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of an important thing to note because when

0:21:48.321 --> 0:21:50.961
<v Speaker 4>we're thinking about who made the phone calls from the house,

0:21:51.001 --> 0:21:52.481
<v Speaker 4>that it potentially could have been her.

0:21:53.921 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Casey spoke to Joey and says he told her that

0:21:56.641 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 2>he and Jennifer did have a picnic, but that it

0:21:59.241 --> 0:22:02.201
<v Speaker 2>wasn't any particular destination, that they just hung around the

0:22:02.241 --> 0:22:05.921
<v Speaker 2>barn on the Benton property, and that after that he

0:22:06.041 --> 0:22:13.321
<v Speaker 2>and Jennifer went on the drive. Over the years, Casey

0:22:13.481 --> 0:22:15.881
<v Speaker 2>says she and the rest of her family have only

0:22:15.961 --> 0:22:19.961
<v Speaker 2>become more convinced that Joey and his family were hiding something.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sheriff's off estated quote no one, including Joey Benton,

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<v Speaker 2>has been eliminated as having potential involvement in the disappearance

0:22:28.681 --> 0:22:30.481
<v Speaker 2>of Jennifer and Adriana.

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<v Speaker 3>Wicks End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Between two thousand and four and twenty thirteen, the Robertson

0:22:36.361 --> 0:22:39.841
<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff's Department has searched the Benton property on four

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<v Speaker 2>separate occasions, They reportedly drained a pond on the land

0:22:43.881 --> 0:22:47.881
<v Speaker 2>as well. Jennifer's family told the Tennessee And that there

0:22:47.921 --> 0:22:51.041
<v Speaker 2>was another search in twenty twenty one that scent and

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.281
<v Speaker 2>cadaver dogs were on the Benton property and that ground

0:22:54.321 --> 0:22:58.521
<v Speaker 2>penetrating radar was also used. They told the newspaper that

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs and the radar ultimately did not lead to

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.841
<v Speaker 2>any human remains being found. Then there was the big

0:23:05.961 --> 0:23:08.761
<v Speaker 2>raid in twenty twenty four on the Benton property, and

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.161
<v Speaker 2>before Casey knew that the raid wasn't related to her

0:23:12.201 --> 0:23:16.641
<v Speaker 2>sister and niece's disappearances, the family briefly had hope again,

0:23:17.801 --> 0:23:20.681
<v Speaker 2>they said in a statement to news Channel five, quote,

0:23:21.001 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago today we reported the missing. Law enforcement

0:23:25.041 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 2>have never been on that property to conduct a warranted search.

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<v Speaker 2>That house has the answers we need, and we're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>this is the day we get them.

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:39.521
<v Speaker 3>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know a lot of details about the searches

0:23:42.681 --> 0:23:45.561
<v Speaker 2>that have happened on the Benton property over the years,

0:23:45.921 --> 0:23:51.161
<v Speaker 2>but reportedly nothing of evidentiary value related to Jennifer's case

0:23:51.281 --> 0:23:55.761
<v Speaker 2>has ever been found there by law enforcement. When Robertson

0:23:55.801 --> 0:23:59.041
<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff Bill Holt contributed to that posting on the

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.801
<v Speaker 2>department website in twenty thirteen, he said that the Sheriff's

0:24:02.801 --> 0:24:06.721
<v Speaker 2>office was quote absolutely committed to not letting Jennifer and

0:24:06.761 --> 0:24:10.401
<v Speaker 2>Adriana Wicks be forgotten, and he went on to say, quote,

0:24:10.721 --> 0:24:13.361
<v Speaker 2>I strongly believe that there are persons.

0:24:12.921 --> 0:24:15.401
<v Speaker 3>In this community who know what happened to Jennifer.

0:24:15.041 --> 0:24:18.681
<v Speaker 2>And Adriana, but who have been reluctant to come forward

0:24:18.921 --> 0:24:23.321
<v Speaker 2>for one reason or another. We today strongly encourage our

0:24:23.361 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>citizens to help us provide answers and closure to the family,

0:24:27.761 --> 0:24:32.041
<v Speaker 2>and as circumstances warrant justice to these two young persons

0:24:32.161 --> 0:24:33.721
<v Speaker 2>who chose to live in our area.

0:24:34.361 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 3>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>So from that statement, it seems like police believe there

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.481
<v Speaker 2>are people, maybe people right there in that community who

0:24:42.561 --> 0:24:45.761
<v Speaker 2>have information that could lead to finding Jennifer and Adriana

0:24:46.241 --> 0:24:49.640
<v Speaker 2>or the remains. The police have a number that you

0:24:49.681 --> 0:24:53.441
<v Speaker 2>can call with tips at the Robertson County Sheriff's Office.

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<v Speaker 2>The number is six one, five three, eight four, seven

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<v Speaker 2>nine seven one. It's also listed on the department's Major

0:25:01.241 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Unsolved Cases page. There's also a crime tip section on

0:25:05.441 --> 0:25:08.361
<v Speaker 2>the sheriff's department website at www.

0:25:08.561 --> 0:25:10.841
<v Speaker 3>Dot robertson sheriff dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>From there you can navigate to the crime tips page.

0:25:15.481 --> 0:25:19.041
<v Speaker 2>There are still so many unanswered questions in this case,

0:25:19.561 --> 0:25:25.041
<v Speaker 2>including did Joseph Senior's disappearance have anything even indirectly to

0:25:25.121 --> 0:25:28.481
<v Speaker 2>do with Jennifer and Adriana's case, and if not, what

0:25:28.761 --> 0:25:33.041
<v Speaker 2>happened to him? And where is the rest of his body?

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.401
<v Speaker 2>Since I wrote this episode, there have been some updates.

0:25:36.961 --> 0:25:40.201
<v Speaker 2>We just learned today that more remains have been found

0:25:40.321 --> 0:25:43.681
<v Speaker 2>in Springfield. Smoky Mountain News reported that they had rec

0:25:43.721 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>received a statement from the City of Springfield confirming that

0:25:47.281 --> 0:25:51.161
<v Speaker 2>possible human remains had been recovered near the Greenway by

0:25:51.281 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>sul for Fort Creek. This is the same general area

0:25:54.641 --> 0:25:58.481
<v Speaker 2>where Joseph Senior's leg was found. This happened on October

0:25:58.521 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>fourth and October fifth. The statement from the City of

0:26:01.641 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Springfield explained that on those two days, the Springfield Police

0:26:05.481 --> 0:26:10.081
<v Speaker 2>Department was contacted concerning the discovery of possible human remains

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>in the creek near the Greenway. The department stated that

0:26:13.681 --> 0:26:17.521
<v Speaker 2>they also conducted additional searches, including an underwater dive unit

0:26:17.601 --> 0:26:20.801
<v Speaker 2>in canine cadiver units. On the next day, October sixth,

0:26:21.281 --> 0:26:25.481
<v Speaker 2>as of this recording that was yesterday, the department wrote

0:26:25.481 --> 0:26:29.481
<v Speaker 2>in a statement, quote, the Springfield Police Department can confirm

0:26:29.761 --> 0:26:33.801
<v Speaker 2>that possible bone remains were recovered in the water located

0:26:33.801 --> 0:26:36.841
<v Speaker 2>in close proximity to the Greenway and Springfield on all

0:26:36.921 --> 0:26:41.441
<v Speaker 2>three dates listed. All potential remains showed significant signs of

0:26:41.441 --> 0:26:45.441
<v Speaker 2>decomposition end quote. The department went on to say they

0:26:45.441 --> 0:26:48.321
<v Speaker 2>have not identified any of the remains and that the

0:26:48.401 --> 0:26:51.561
<v Speaker 2>remains have been sent to the State Medical Examiner's Office

0:26:51.641 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>for further identification. Again, this is a developing story. We

0:26:56.281 --> 0:26:59.201
<v Speaker 2>don't know if the bones are human, if they are human,

0:26:59.241 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>if they could be Joseph Senior or someone else, And

0:27:02.481 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the department stated that we won't know more about the

0:27:05.921 --> 0:27:08.801
<v Speaker 2>identification until they get a report back from the State

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Medical Examiner's office. This could take weeks or months, but

0:27:12.721 --> 0:27:16.681
<v Speaker 2>we will keep you posted. Again, this is a developing

0:27:16.721 --> 0:27:21.361
<v Speaker 2>story and we will keep following it. After so many years,

0:27:21.921 --> 0:27:24.641
<v Speaker 2>it just goes to show even in the coldest cases,

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.441
<v Speaker 2>things can still happen, and Jennifer's family has never given up.

0:27:30.601 --> 0:27:35.441
<v Speaker 2>I ask Casey if she believed today that Adriana.

0:27:34.921 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Could be alive.

0:27:37.481 --> 0:27:41.761
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't feel like Jennifer or Adriana are alive.

0:27:42.121 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a lot of people over the year

0:27:44.001 --> 0:27:46.321
<v Speaker 4>that say, I can understand how someone could do that

0:27:46.441 --> 0:27:48.961
<v Speaker 4>with an adult. You know that someone's arguing with you

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.001
<v Speaker 4>in the heat of a moment or whatever. But people

0:27:52.041 --> 0:27:54.281
<v Speaker 4>can't seem to grasp someone doing that to a two

0:27:54.361 --> 0:27:56.721
<v Speaker 4>year old. And I always tell them it happens every day.

0:27:57.521 --> 0:28:00.120
<v Speaker 4>We cover these cases, and people are hurting and harming

0:28:00.161 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 4>children every day. I would like for that not to

0:28:03.401 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 4>be the case. But hearing him say that for the

0:28:05.441 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 4>first time last year just really solidified for me that

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:09.841
<v Speaker 4>they are dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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<v Speaker 2>research assistance and James Wheaton for legal review. Noah Cammer

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