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Speaker 2: On March twenty fifth, two thousand and four, Jennifer Wicks

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Speaker 2: Since December of two thousand and three, Jennifer and Adriana

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Speaker 2: Initially, Joey had told police a similar story about leaving

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Speaker 2: Could Jennifer have left voluntarily and started a new life.

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Speaker 2: as the Wicks family suspects, the answers lie closer to

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Speaker 2: First, let's explore the theory that Jennifer could have left

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Speaker 2: Between two thousand and four and twenty thirteen, the Robertson

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Speaker 2: We don't know a lot of details about the searches

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Speaker 2: So from that statement, it seems like police believe there

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Speaker 2: There are still so many unanswered questions in this case,

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Speaker 4: We cover these cases, and people are hurting and harming

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Speaker 4: they are dead.

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Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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Speaker 2: Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans.

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Speaker 3: And iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced

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Speaker 2: by Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her

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Speaker 2: research assistance and James Wheaton for legal review. Noah Cammer

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Speaker 2: Ben Sale, Executive producers of Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr and L. C.

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Speaker 3: If you have a case you'd like me.

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