1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can'f I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Always cool to see the Cobalt Show kids, you know, Eric, 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Deborah old Crewe nikis here. We'll get to a lot 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: of stuff today, and there's much going on in the world. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I want to get first to something that really is 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: remarkable in the conversation around international events. One has to 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: look at what happened in Iran as a result of 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Israeli and American cooperation, and that same cooperation may apply 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: to what may happen with a solution toward Gaza and 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the inhumanity and the remarkable continuing two years now into 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: that conflict of all of the both military efforts on 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: the part of Israel and also the pushback on the 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: part of Hamas. But what has changed is both the 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: time and now the efforts of the American President Donald 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Trump to try to affect some kind of peace deal. 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Whether US now is Georgiana Miller from ABC and Geordana 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: what is I guess President Trump has his site set 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: on ending this war in Gaza. 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: He does, and I think he's been saying that for 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: you know, the last couple months but after what the 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: Israelis called a decisive victory over Iran, those calls by 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: the president are growing, you know, more urgent and more public. 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: And we know that the Israeli Prime Minister is working 25 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: on setting a date to come to Washington. It's likely 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: going to be early next week, and topping the agenda 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: will be how to wrap up the war in Gaza 28 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: as well as you know, post Iran. 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: Talk after not only the devastating military defeat that Israel delivered, 30 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: but of course the United States role in that in 31 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: hitting the nuclear sites Ford Oubt, Isfahan and the tans 32 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: Uh and then talking about expanding the Abraham Accords. Those 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 4: are the peace accords that President Trump uh signed in 34 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: his first. 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 5: Term as president right at the end there that. 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: Brought normalization deals between Israel and the United Arab Emirates 37 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: as well as Bahrain, Morocco. Well, there are other countries 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: now that are are interested in that have long been interested. 39 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 5: In joining the Abraham Accords. 40 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: And the you know, the defeat uh in of Iran, 41 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: the successful attack of their nuclear program and their missile 42 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: program has only moved that, you know, process of normalizing ties, 43 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: which in Israel and its neighbors it has expedited or 44 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: accelerated that process. And remember we know now that one 45 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: of the reasons Hamas struck on October seventh with that 46 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: very deadly attack back in twenty twenty three was one 47 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: of the aims was to derail the normalization talks that 48 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: were quite advanced between Israel and Saudi Arabia. 49 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I was just about to make that point. I'm so 50 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: glad you make it, because it's sort of ironic, isn't 51 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: that that this entire thing, the October seventh attack and 52 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: all that's followed, was really probably tripped off from that 53 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: which you're talking about, right. 54 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: I mean, that was one of the that's one of 55 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: the one of the main reasons that Hamas decided to strike. 56 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 5: When it did, right, Hamas was always going to plan 57 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: some deadly strike on Israel, but that was one of 58 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: the one of the important timing aspects of it. 59 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: So, you know, here we are almost two years later, 60 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: Hamas has been largely defeated, has Bala has. 61 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 5: Been beaten back ran. You know, it is very very very. 62 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: Weakened and turned out to be somewhat of a paper tiger. 63 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 5: And so this is a really ripe moment to wrap 64 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 5: up the war in Gaza and link it even to. 65 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: Advancing and widening the Abraham Accords, which would be you know, it'd. 66 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Be a win for Israel, would you think, Jordana, Yeah, 67 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: a win for Israel in the West exactly. 68 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not just yeah, it's not just Israel, it's 69 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: the West as well. Because remember all of these countries, 70 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: and it includes now Syria. We forget that in the 71 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: middle of of all this, the Syrian regime fell and 72 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: Israel there was also very aggressive taking the Goal on Heights, 73 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: a kind of no man's land, even extending its reach 74 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: into Syrian territory to secure its borders. Well, now even 75 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: Syria is interested in a normalization deal with Israel. 76 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Iranian proxies now are gone. Yeah. This is 77 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: it's a different serial and it's an opportunity to reorder 78 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: the Middle East. I mean, it's quite an extraordinary moment 79 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: in Middle East history. 80 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: It is this is a kind of tectonic shift, if 81 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 5: you will, that you know, an earthquake that began. 82 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: On October seventh, and it did bring some ruin, if 83 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: you will, But you know, it looks two years out 84 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: like a reordering, as you said, of the Middle East. 85 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 5: And really to the benefit of the West. 86 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: And of course Israel h jordanan I can't let you 87 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: go though without mentioning the one huge sticking point for 88 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Israel is the fifty hostages that remain. They're still being 89 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: held by Hamas, and this is a massive issue within Israel. 90 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: It is and quickly, after twelve days of really intense 91 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: war here and the thirteenth day of an uncertain ceasefire, 92 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: now it's holding these really public quickly shifted back. 93 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 5: To the gods of war. I mean, there were tens 94 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: of thousands. 95 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: Of people out over the weekend again calling for the 96 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: end of the war, calling for the release of the hostages. 97 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: The hostage crisis here is like a festering wound, really, 98 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: and until those fifty hostages are back, and remember only 99 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: twenty of them are believed to be alive. 100 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: The other thirty are bodies. And within that group of 101 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 5: bodies are. 102 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: Two Americans, two young Americans that deserve. 103 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: To be uh, deserve a burial like the others. So 104 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: you know, Israel wants to see all of them out 105 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: and back. 106 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: And there is fear that even the intensified military operation 107 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: of the last couple months has endangered the lives of 108 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: the hostages. So the families are extremely I mean, at 109 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: this point there, I'm not even sure there are words 110 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: to describe the state of mind of these families. 111 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 5: And now, yeah, I. 112 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Also would say just to it trauma and that pain 113 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and trauma informs politically and and Yahoo and these ongoing discussions. 114 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: But nonetheless it may represent an opportunity this moment in time. 115 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: GEORGANA Miller from ABC, thank you so much for spending 116 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: a moment with us on the Call Belt Show. 117 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: Appreciate it, Thank you, Texan. 118 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk soon. That's a developing story for sure. Much 119 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to get to today. I'll update this vote on the 120 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Trump megabill and more as we continue. It's the John 121 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Covelt Show. Mark sitting in on KFI AM six forty. 122 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 123 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 124 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 6: six forty. 125 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: I just want to mention, because it is going on 126 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: right now, the vote rama that is talked about, and 127 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: everybody's clear on what that vote rama is. So when 128 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: there's a big bill, as you're aware, and this is 129 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: a huge bill, any number of things happen along the way. 130 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: They're having to essentially xcize from the bill, take out 131 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: stuff that not related to money, like if there's some 132 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: the politics woven into the bill has to be removed. 133 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: But that's not what votama is. Voter rama is once 134 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: they're done with a debate, and you know, Chuck Schumer 135 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: asks for the bill to be read because it's almost 136 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: a thousand page bill, and the allegation, and it's probably true, 137 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: is that you know, none of these guys have read it. 138 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: I mean just I don't know Democrat, Republican, anybody's read it. 139 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what we see the stuff that percolates to 140 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the surface is all the stuff that's particularly radioactive, right 141 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: that Medicaid is going to be defunded if this bill passes, 142 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and that there's going to be the selloff of public land, 143 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: and that I have news about in just a moment, 144 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: because that looks like that's been nixed from the bill, 145 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: and you know, the Senate has made changes to that 146 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: House bill. So what vodama is, as you're aware, is 147 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: that just begin after the debate period is over, So 148 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: after the bill is read, then they're debating, they introduce 149 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: all these senators do all these things into the bill, 150 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: little stuff into the bill. No reason they do this 151 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: can range from them really caring about these things that 152 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: they added the bill, or it's political grandstanding. And this 153 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: will come as no surprise to you that in order 154 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: to you know, wink in a nod and tip of 155 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: the hat to their constituency, they're going to ask for 156 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: certain things to be added to the bill that then 157 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: are voted on quickly. That's the vote rama part. Like 158 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: all of this happens super quickly, So all these senators 159 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: try to shoehorn in stuff that many of them probably 160 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: know we'll never make it to the finish line. But 161 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: the idea is that by entering it into the bill, 162 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: they get credit for having tried to get it in 163 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: on behalf of their constituency. So a lot of it 164 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: is politics, and there is a lot of it to 165 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: the point that they are introducing it and then voting 166 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: on it super quickly. So that's what's happening with the 167 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: megabill now. So when they talk about vote rama, that's 168 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of where we are. I mentioned that there was 169 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: a plan to sell off public land in the West. 170 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: It was super controversial, continues to be super controversialist and 171 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: talked about and was talked about in the first Trump administration, 172 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 1: or as I like to call it, Season one, A 173 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: controversial plan now across the Western States, including California, selling 174 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of acres of this public land axed 175 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: from the Republican Tax and Spending Bill. There was bipartisan backlash. 176 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: Mike Lee in Utah, who spearheaded the proposal to begin with, 177 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: said that he was pulling the provision. This just happened 178 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Lee had said that the land sale 179 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: was intended to ease the financial burden of housing, pointing 180 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: to a lack of affordability many communities, many of the 181 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: communities in Utah and beyond. He said, because of these 182 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: strict constraints of the budget reconciliation process, I was unable 183 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: to secure clear, enforceable safeguards to guarantee that these lands 184 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: would be sold only to American families, not to China, 185 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: not to Blackrock, and not to any foreign interests. The 186 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: truth is he got such pushback on this. I mean, 187 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: he's a saving political face, is what he's doing. But 188 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't mention that this would have mandated 189 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: the sale of six hundred thousand and one point two 190 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: million acres of Bureau of Land Management land. It was 191 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: eleven Western states covered by all this, California among them, 192 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: and the areas available for auction were supposed to be 193 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: located within a five mile radius of population centers. And 194 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: so you ended up with what was an unprecedented sell 195 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: off of public lands. 196 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 5: And so. 197 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: There were as I say, there were Republicans, four of 198 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: them to my count, vowing to strike the proposal from 199 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: the bill, and ultimately he just took it out himself. So, 200 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: as Vodorama continues, this bill may survive in one way 201 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: or another. I think it will make it to the 202 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: finish line. Again, they've taken out certain things that along 203 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: the lines of the selling off of public lands got 204 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: bipartisan pushback. Probably the thing that's getting a lot of 205 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: headlines is the Medicaid hit. The idea somehow that Medicaid 206 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: would be defunded to the point that a lot of 207 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: these rural communities, and they're in Red states, may be 208 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: dramatically affected. So the Red States senators are really getting 209 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: dragged to this, but many of them are voting for it. Anyway. 210 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: The power of Donald Trump is legit. He has tremendous 211 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: political heft and he stares down these senators and even 212 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: threatens them with primaries such that they ultimately cave. You 213 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: saw Tom Tillis, He's saying, Hey, I'm not even going 214 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: to run now for reelection. I've had enough of this. 215 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: That allows me the freedom to push back on the 216 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: President on this because this stuff affects my constituency in 217 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: a bad way, and rural hospitals will be affected dramatically. 218 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: The thing that people don't realize oftentimes is that rural 219 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: hospitals on Medicaid. Not because everybody who goes to rural 220 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: hospitals are on Medicaid. No, it's because there are enough 221 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: people who are on Medicaid and get Medicaid reimbursement to 222 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the point that that's basically keeping the hospital open. It's 223 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: a huge source of revenue for those rural hospitals. So, 224 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got plenty of patients there who aren't 225 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: using Medicaid, but there are also enough Medicaid patients going 226 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: to those royal hospitals that if they don't have that 227 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: Medicaid support, the rural hospitals close. So they're looking at 228 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of states that handle those communities that require 229 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: some help from the government possibly not getting that help 230 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: when this bill passes Again, what form the bill actually 231 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: takes when it passes the Senate, which I think it 232 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: will do, it'll just probably eke by then it goes 233 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: back to the House. As you're aware, we'll have to see. 234 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: But that is one of the key issues that you're 235 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: going to hear a lot about and continue to hear 236 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot about. We've been talking about it, I think 237 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: for you know, every since the bill was introduced and 238 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: now is on the Senate floor, so vod rama continues. 239 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Could what happened in New York with the election of 240 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: a socialist it's not the election, well, I mean he 241 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: won the primary, so he's won the first part of 242 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: the election. Could he actually make it all the way 243 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: to mayoralship? We'll see. But could a candidate like that 244 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: actually rise to prominence in Los Angeles? We have a 245 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of the same problems, I mean, you know, homelessness, 246 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: problems with affordability, issues with incompetence on the part of 247 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the city, and people are fed up? Right, Might a 248 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: transformative figure like this, kind of a plain spoken figure 249 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: with real ideas break through in La like think a 250 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Rick Caruso, but like socialist version. Could that ever happen? 251 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I'll give you the yes 252 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: and the no as we continue. It's a John Cobelt Show, 253 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Mark Thompson sitting in. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 254 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 255 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in. Always fun to 256 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: be here at KFI with the Kobel kids. I was mentioning, 257 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: by the way, we're watching all these unfolding stories, watching 258 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: what's happening in Washington with the big beautiful Bill and 259 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: the voter rama that's going on. I was just mentioning 260 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: it a moment ago. We're also looking at the break 261 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: in the Idaho firefighter tragedy, and top of the hour, 262 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Jim Ryan from ABC and we'll get 263 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: an update on this gunman and they've now identified him, 264 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: and we'll get to all of that at the beginning 265 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: of the next hour. You know, I mentioned the New 266 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: York City mayoral race and the Democratic primary there won 267 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: by this socialist, Zorn mad and it was something of 268 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: a surprise that this avowed socialist could rise to the 269 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: top in you know, America's most populous city, and it 270 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: really does speak to how the Democratic Party is divided. 271 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the traditionalists in Democratic Party, I'd 272 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: call them maybe conservative mainstream Democrats, and then you have 273 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: and this is a rising demographic, a bunch of people 274 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: who are generally younger, who are priced out of housing. 275 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: They're college educated or they're you know and read when 276 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I say college educated, they're just there. They're even graduated 277 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: from high school and have an understanding of how essentially 278 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: locked out of the system they are in New York City. 279 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: They don't feel that they're going to have a piece 280 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: of the big apple, that housing and homeless and incompetence 281 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: has led to the cesspool that they feel New York is. 282 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: And so it allows the door to be kicked open 283 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: for this guy, Zoron Mamdani, who's it's more than he's 284 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: a socialist. He's got really like breakthrough ideas. He's saying, Hey, 285 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to tax the rich and you'll be able 286 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: to ride the buses, subways, public transportation for free. In 287 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: New York. I'm going to clean this place up, and 288 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: we'll do it by taxing the wealthiest New Yorkers who 289 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: are living large at your expense. Okay, I mean this 290 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: isn't about whether you agree or disagree with that. I 291 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: was just intrigued by the fact that this guy breaks through, 292 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: and I thought, hmm, we have a lot of those 293 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: problems in LA. We have homelessness issues. You know, you 294 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: park your car, you walk for blocks, and some crazy 295 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: person with a pipe is running you down. There is 296 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: a problem with competence and questions about competence at the 297 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: highest levels of LA administration. Could a socialist candidate with 298 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: big ideas break through in Los Angeles at all? One 299 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: of the things I do want to point out right 300 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: away before we even get into this at all. And 301 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to just kick this around. It's I think it, 302 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, more than unlikely, so I'll kind of tip 303 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: the conclusion ahead of time, at least the one that 304 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: I have. But one of the things I really want 305 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: to point up is that this is a city that's 306 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: not governed like New York. When you're the mayor of 307 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: New York, you can really do stuff. When you're the 308 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: mayor of New York. All this stuff that he's talking 309 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: about as a candidate, he could actually implement with not 310 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of political resistance. It's a strong mayor system. 311 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: It's one of the most powerful physicians as a local 312 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: exiscutive that you can have in all of America. Okay. 313 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: All the city agencies and the budget report to the mayor. 314 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: He can appoint commissioners, housing, police, sanitation, that's all the 315 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: mayor in New York, Okay. And he can direct policy 316 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: priorities in New York. Think of it kind of like 317 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is now, you know how Donald Trump is 318 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: shaking He's shaking up America by taking charge and changing 319 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: radically the way things are done. Well, that's the way 320 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: it is with the mayor in New York. That is 321 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: not the way it is in LA. We have a 322 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: strong council system here, right, the LA mayor has much 323 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: less unilateral authority. I'm not saying that the LA mayor 324 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and who is mayor doesn't matter. It way matters. Right, 325 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: But the mayor proposes a budget, but the fifteen members 326 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: of the city council, they amend, negotiate, they finalize it. 327 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: The mayor appoints department heads, but those appointments the city 328 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: council approves those, right, So when it comes to land 329 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: use and contract approvals. A lot of key powers that 330 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: rest with the mayor in New York, they rest with 331 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: the city council in LA. If you want to have 332 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: real power in LA, you don't want to be mayor. 333 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: You want to be in the city council. If you 334 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: really want to affect change. I get it. Everybody wants 335 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: to be mayor, everybody wants to change the direction of 336 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: the city. But in LA, the city council has a 337 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of power, and these commissions, I mean these 338 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: semi independent boards, they have tremendous amount of influence over 339 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: departments like housing and police and public works in Los Angeles. 340 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: So the mayor cannot in LA consolidate power across all 341 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: of these different ructures. Just the way it's set up, 342 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't concentrate power in the seat of the mayor. 343 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: So again just skipping ahead in the movie, even if 344 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: you had a socialist mayor, I mean, I understand that 345 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Christy Gnome feels that we have a socialist mayor, but 346 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying a real socialist mayor, yeah, ready to take you. 347 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Look what is being proposed in New York is you 348 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: know that's a real radical change that just couldn't happen 349 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: here in la not with the express desire on the 350 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: mayor's part to change things. The mayor would need the 351 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: city council. So now when we come back, I'll talk 352 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: about what could actually happen here with a transformative change candidate, 353 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: could it in any way quack? Like what's going on 354 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: in New York. Mark Thompson is sitting in for John Covid. 355 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the 356 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. 357 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 358 00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 6: six forty. 359 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: We will update in the next hour a little bit 360 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: of what's going on in the Sean Combs you can 361 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: call me Diddy trial. Some hiccups with the jury there. 362 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Just talking to Debora Mark about it and will update 363 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: it for you in the next hour. Obviously watching the 364 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: bill as it grinds on in Washington. There will be 365 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: a vote and then you know it will assuming it 366 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: ekes out a vote in the Senate, it goes back 367 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: to the House, et cetera. But we'll update all of that. 368 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of talking about what happened 369 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: in New York City. I'm kind of smiling about it 370 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: because it's just like such a radical thing. No one 371 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: really saw it coming that this progressive candidate, this socialist 372 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: candidate and avowed socialist, would rise to the point that 373 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: he would beat out Cuomo for the mayoral win in 374 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the primary there. But he has. And so I was 375 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: talking about whether or not something that could happen in 376 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: New York is in La as it has in New York. 377 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: As we have a lot of the same problems, meaning 378 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: problems with homelessness, a challenge with affordable housing. You know, 379 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: you have mental health issues with that are spilling out 380 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: under the streets, and there is a frustration with city 381 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: government just feeling as though, hey, there's a questionable competence 382 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to the money associated with homelessness generally, 383 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: where is it all going? I mean, people are fed up, 384 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: and people are fed up in New York as well. 385 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: But what I was saying before the break was that 386 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: there's a strong mayor structure in New York that allows 387 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: a socialist victory to quickly reshape priorities for the city 388 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: of New York. You do not have that in La. 389 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: La has a fragmented structure. It's a little like the 390 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: population and the way in which LA is, you know, 391 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: a sprawl. The government of LA is a sprawl also, 392 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: So even if a socialist were to win here, it 393 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: would be a kind of trench warfare. To get anything 394 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: really changed. You'd have to build a coalition with the 395 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: city council. It wouldn't be enough just to elect a 396 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: progressive mayor. And the same is true on the right. 397 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't. I'm just picking a progressive socialist 398 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: may because that's what happened in New York. But again, 399 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the point is you need a coalition in LA. Now, 400 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: I'd say that the reason that a progressive candidate is 401 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: viable in LA might have to do with demographics, the 402 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: demography of Los Angeles, and there's a strong young and 403 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: Latino vote, And if those people turned out, they have 404 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: consistently supported progressive issues on the ballot, like rent protections 405 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: and minimum wage hikes. This kind of stuff does tell you, though, Look, 406 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: these guys are ready to show up for progressive reforms. 407 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: There's also a big kind of union presence here, right, 408 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they're public and private sector unions. I'm not 409 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: saying you have to love everything the unions stand for 410 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: at all, but I am saying that that is part 411 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: of the political structure of LA. And again, look at 412 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: the way they vote. They do seem to lean progressive. 413 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: So if you had a progressive candidate, a slash socialist 414 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: candidate like Mandami in New York rise to prominence in LA, 415 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe you would have these constituencies showing up young people, Latinos, 416 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: union labor and then there's total frustration here. This is 417 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: the thing that really motivated this question in my mind, 418 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: is that we have a lot of the same frustrations 419 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: that they do. Right, there's a homelessness crisis. We've thrown 420 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of money at it. Every time there's a 421 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: bond measure, we vote for it, and there is there 422 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: is no measurable change in these issues with homelessness, and 423 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: the rents are unaffordable, you have development gridlock, right, it's 424 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: very hard to get stuff approved. And so a bold 425 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: progressive and it doesn't have to be a progressive I'm 426 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: just saying, I'm looking at New York again, it could 427 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: have been a Rick Caruso. I mean again, if Caruso 428 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: had been elected mayor, Caruso would have had to put 429 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: together that coalition I'm talking about, and I think there's 430 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: a lot of identity politics also, so you'd have to 431 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: again face that city council gridlock if you won. And 432 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: the other thing I'm leaving out, and this is a 433 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: huge thing I want to make sure it gets mentioned, 434 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: is that there'd be business opposition to any kind of 435 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: progressive or socialist candidate rising in La the way he 436 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: did it in New York. I mean, they have great 437 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: political influence, great financial influence in Los Angeles, and landlords, developers' 438 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: business groups. These are real constituencies that have tremendous political 439 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: heft here, you know, And so I think you'd see 440 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: a huge spend to block those progressive and socialist if 441 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: you will, again like Mandami, those avenues to political power. 442 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: And I also think the moderates really vote in big 443 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: numbers in Los Angeles, you know what I mean. I 444 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: just think that even though there may be a reputation 445 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: as a progressive city, I think middle class homeowners, especially 446 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: in the valley on the West Side, they're not looking 447 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: to vote in somebody on the left particularly. I mean, 448 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: look at the way neighborhoods keep out new housing or 449 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: homeless shelters. I mean that just tells you that sort 450 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: of the nimby crowd is reflective of what really happens 451 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: when the rubber meets the road, you know, and of 452 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: course fragmented voter turnout to me in LA is a 453 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: big part of it as well. So I don't see 454 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: it happening. I mean, technically, could a progressive candidate like 455 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Mandami win here in Los Angeles, I guess, especially with 456 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a powerful message, But you'd need a powerful message on 457 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: all those things I mentioned, housing, economic justice, public safety, 458 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: all that stuff. If you've got a real message, not 459 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: an empty, one dimensional message, but a real message with 460 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: real hef behind it, it's possible, but I see it 461 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: as extremely unlikely. When we come back the update on 462 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Idaho and those firefighters, they've id'd the dude who ambushed 463 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: those firefighters. That and the Sean Combs trial as well. 464 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: It's the John Covelt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for 465 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: John on KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on 466 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. 467 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 468 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 469 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 470 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,